Robert Mueller now has all of Donald Trump’s Deutsche Bank records

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I’m trying not to get ahead of myself with the #TrumpImpeachmentParty. I want to get this party started. I want to throw glitter and briefly abandon my dry-drunk status in a vat of woke-ass tequila. But we’re moving slowly, even if there are about a million moving pieces, all of which are shifting on a seemingly hourly basis. Last Friday, independent counsel Robert Mueller moved in on Michael Flynn, Trump’s former campaign senior adviser and brief National Security Adviser. Flynn was always compromised, much like Paul Manafort. Flynn was always dirty, and I hoped that Flynn would be targeted heavily for his many crimes. But Mueller, it seems, flipped Flynn. Flynn is only being charged with one felony, and he’s likely to squeal like a piggie on an assortment of Deplorables, possibly Precious Jared Kushner, Mother’s Husband and Emperor Baby Fists.

Trump tweeted out some ill-advised bulls–t over the weekend, and he basically admitted to obstruction of justice. His lawyers scrambled to explain the tweets, and long story short, Trump’s entire legal defense is in tatters. The Trump lawyers aren’t even arguing that Trump did not collude with Russia – their new argument is that Trump colluded and “collusion” isn’t a criminal act or an impeachable offense. The lawyers are also arguing that the president cannot “obstruct justice.” Which is Nixonian – it was Tricky Dick (who looks like the Mahatma Gandhi compared to Trump) who argued that “if the president does it, it’s not illegal.”

Overnight, The Guardian and other outlets reported that Trump’s personal banking records with Deutsche Bank have now been turned over to Mueller and his investigation. Mueller’s team served a warrant on Deutsche Bank, and the bank turned over everything. The bank is Trump’s biggest lender. So… keep your eye on that.

As for Paul Manafort, I do wonder if he’s actually the dumbest person alive. Manafort is currently out on bail, and during his downtime, he decided to ghostwrite a pro-Russia op-ed for his Ukranian business associates. This is a violation of the terms of his bail, and now Mueller’s team is trying to get his bail revoked. SMH.

Here’s one last thing – Trump defending “General Flynn” and then lying about Hillary Clinton.

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  1. Alexandria says:

    Yesssss…..follow the money….(do I sound like I’m hissing?)

  2. Mar says:

    Please don’t throw glitter ever ( The tiny particles end up killing the ocean I just read) but get your champagne ready.

  3. HadToChangeMyName says:

    (1) I hope Mueller can substantiate money laundering and other crimes against 45 and his family and he goes a way for a long, long time. And I hope they are state crimes, so he can’t be pardoned by Pence.

    (2) The way he talks about Flynn is the same way he was talking about Arpaio before he pardoned him, so watch out!

    • Who ARE These People? says:

      He could pardon Flynn, but Flynn would have already given the information over to Mueller and potentially taped conversations with Trump & Co. (i.e. “cooperated”) so it would matter only insofar as Flynn wouldn’t serve out an already greatly reduced sentence.

      Trump can’t just keep pardoning his way up the ladder, and Nixon couldn’t keep firing prosecutors forever.

      The question is what happens with the tax bill. Republicans will clearly do ANYTHING for that. If it passes, then they maybe happy to let Trump keep doing his Trump thing. If it doesn’t, then he’s no use to them and will start dragging them down further.

      Call your reps/senators and ask them what they plan to do if Trump fires Mueller – or starts a war with N Korea.

      • Lightpurple says:

        Pardoning someone is dangerous for the person granting the pardon because the person receiving the pardon can no longer refuse to answer questions on the grounds of self-incrimination. Nixon understood this. Doubtful Trump does.

      • wood dragon says:

        And the funny thing about accepting a pardon is that it’s a total admission of guilt.
        He might be able to spare Flynn jail time but Flynn might as well move to Turkey or Russia.

      • magnoliarose says:

        He has NYC state attorney’s lined up to them pursue state charges. His hold card is that federal prison is a lot more comfortable than state prison. I am not certain they want to risk that because their enemies are salivating at the chance to take this family down and they will suffer and go away for a LONG time.
        Complicity Barbie wouldn’t last long in a state prison.

  4. Naomi says:

    Bring him down!

    I’m curiously optimistic about 2018, good things to come after the dumpfire that was 2017

    Tax evasion and money laundering landed Capone in jail…

    • Who ARE These People? says:

      Political power at the highest level was not involved with Al Capone (as far as I know, which is very little).

    • Venus says:

      If Trump is taken down, that still leaves us with President Pence, which is frightening in a different way. He is hardcore conservative, super right-wing — maybe not corrupt like this guy, but the fight will by no means be over.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Amen. I remember those days.

        Money is and was always going to be at the heart of this ‘special arrangement’ with Russia.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Venus, there’s a good chance that Pence will be implicated as well because of his supervision of the transition team.

        But, if he’s president, it’ll be short-term only. He’s already inflicting his harsh, Puritanical domestic agenda on the country so that would be no different. Foreign policy may be put back in somewhat more expert hands. And he’d be in over his head, but he’d know it. He’s not likeable, and he’d be tarred by his association with Trump, so he could not beat most Democrats likely to be fielded in 2020, and not likely to be much help to Democrats trying to take back the House in 2018.

        It’s not worth having the vapors about Pence. We’re likely not to die in nuclear blasts under Pence. He’s a wicked man, to be sure, but his schtick is total self-control.

      • Lightpurple says:

        The fight won’t be over but it will be different. Pence is less likely to start a nuclear war on Twitter or insult our allies just for the fun of it. He has absolutely no charisma so, apart from the evangelical crowd, he won’t get much enthusiastic support from any group. Swing voters will swing elsewhere. He isn’t liked in the GOP, they were going to put up primary challenges against him in Indiana if he ran for re-election. Pence also seems implicated in the Flynn mess.

      • Lorelai says:

        @Venus, LightPurple beat me to it and said it better than I could.

        The fight is definitely not over if we end up with President Pence (🤢), but it is different. It is, at least, back to politics as usual — he is already doing some horrible things while we’re all distracted with Trump, and at least Pence respects the institutions and processes that Trump has been systematically sh!tting on for the past year.

        It is all awful, but IMO Pence is the lesser of two evils between these two.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Pence is a bold faced liar and a zealot. He will switch his ugly to the LGBTQ+ community, and I am sure he would love to do it, but we aren’t having any of it. We should have been out supporting Obama when he was blocked, but we won’t make that mistake again.

    • shlockOftheNEw says:

      It all comes back to mastermind put*n. Look at what happened with state led doping of russian athletes in the soochi olympics. the pod is pure thug- and pea doesn’t fall far from the vine.

  5. happyoften says:

    This should be interesting…. brace for the crazy.

  6. Izzy says:

    I literally burst out laughing when I read this headline. Today is a good day.

  7. OSTONE says:

    They say good things come to those who wait but damn can it be sped up? Mueller is my beacon of hope and I am just afraid all of this is going to amount to nothing because nothing ever happens to rich white men. Come on Mueller!!!!!

  8. Nicole says:

    It’s slow but it’s moving. And now trump is trying to create an h deerhound spy network. People are taking that as a move to remove Mueller.
    Congress needs to make Mueller unfireable

    • HadToChangeMyName says:

      They’re trying to create a conflict of interest argument because at least one investigator allegedly had a pro-Clinton bias.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        FBI agents are allowed to hold personal opinions as long as they don’t interfere with their work. I guess they’ll go after the wording but no matter whether you call her server “negligent” or “careless,” in neither case was it found to be illegal. Fox etc will try to stretch it though to the definition of criminally negligent. Just you wait.

        Mueller fired that agent anyway. He didn’t have to, but he understands the value of appearances.

      • Lightpurple says:

        Except the guy was removed months ago

    • Megan says:

      They won’t make Mueller unfireable because after the tax vote and re-endorsement of Moore, it’s clear the Republicans are officially the party of Trump. I am once again very pessimistic about any chance of removing Trump other than the 2020 election.

      • IlsaLund says:

        The GOP rolls out the triple bogeyman threat of DNC/Pelosi/Schumer to keep the sheeple in line. Pelosi & Schumer are liabilities for Dems moving forward. Hopefully state parties will do their own thing in next year’s mid terms and not embrace the National Party and it’s leaders. Given the electoral college, my hopes are even diminished for removing Trump in 2020.

      • Nicole says:

        No i know. They should but i know they won’t. Hitler also created the SS army because he didn’t trust the installed intelligence community. In case you arent convinced we are living in pre-WWII conditions

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        If the US makes it to 2020 with free and fair elections — unlike the past few, especially with the 2000 and 2016 Republican cheating — it will be a miracle. This is a race against time.

      • Lorelai says:

        @Isalund: ITA about Schumer and Pelosi. I’m sure there are those who will disagree with us, but IMO we need new blood and we need it *yesterday*

        @Nicole your comment gave me chills.

        @WhoAreThesePeople: I don’t know how we could ever get to a point again in which we trust that our elections are totally fair and free. There are so many layers of issues, between gerrymandering and voter roll tampering and machine hacking…it is an utter mess.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Nicole’s comment should give you chills Lorelai because he is copying the Fascist for Dummies handbook to a T. The Koch brothers were raised by a strident fascist and would love to have it installed here. Thank God they are old, and I hate saying that because it is ageist but only death removes evil wealthy men like them. I am not sure they are pro Trump for the long haul due to their libertarianism and obsession with the free market.
        I don’t see them doing anything but using this to get their way and then dumping him because he is bad for business.
        They aren’t ideologues or religious.
        The billionaire greedy nimrods are waiting for these tax cuts, and they will never allow Tangerine 45 to have any power long term. He will be gone because they wish it to be so.

  9. littlemissnaughty says:

    Of COURSE Deutsche Bank is cropping up. Of course they kept lending him money when nobody else would. Of course they handed over every last shred because if anyone can’t afford the publicity or the investigation, it’s them. I can’t even begin to describe how much I hate them as an institution.

    • Sojaschnitzel says:

      Me too. I’m hailing from germany, and believe me, they are a grade A sh!tshow. They are evil.

    • Christin says:

      There are giant (bigly) fines if a bank does not cooperate or is found complicit in financial crimes. They may be trying to mitigate any future penalties THEY have to pay.

      Money laundering is the ultimate fall for these types of people. Shady deals seem to abound. Just follow the money trail.

    • magnoliarose says:

      They are a dirty bank and have done some horrible things to the economics of several countries, but they aren’t going to protect Tangerine 45.
      First Woman Melly better start packing her suitcases and pull an Annette Roque and run to Slovenia. I have no doubt her finances go straight back to Russia. None whatsoever. Dig hard enough, and you will find an oligarch in the mix and some other men of questionable character.

      I would not be surprised if some people disappear during this whole fiasco. I have no sympathy. Only a fool would do business with people like these. A good hard shove off a roof is just part of doing business.

  10. Veronica says:

    Honest to God, if this was a plot on House of Cards, I wouldn’t be able to suspend my disbelief long enough to finish the season.

  11. Surely Wolfbeak says:

    That’s his “red line,” because investigating his finances and businesses would open him up to charges in the state of New York, which would not be covered under a president’s power to pardon.

    • Louisa says:

      Yes! I was just coming to comment on that. Trump has previously said that if Mueller started looking into his personal finances that would be too much for him. I can definitely see him trying to fire Mueller now.

    • swak says:

      IIRC at one point Trump said his finances should be off limit and possibly the line in the sand he would draw. Flynn made his own bed and should lie in it. He ruined his life not Mueller. Also from an article on The Hill (also a similar article on Politico):

      Attorney General Jeff Sessions argued in 1999 as an Alabama senator that then-President Clinton could be removed from office for obstructing justice amid an investigation into his relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.

      • Christin says:

        It’s like a child who has done something they shouldn’t have, and he or she says, “Don’t look there!” It’s that transparent.

        The money trail being off limits is like pointing directly to where the real dirt is. Especially for a braggart who loves telling everyone how filthy rich he is.

    • Who ARE These People? says:

      AH. Got it. Though … if he has the power to pardon, could he pardon himself?

      Isn’t it more that it is hard to indict a sitting president for a federal-level crime (thus requiring impeachment), but they can do it for a state-level crime?

      Nixon was named an un-indicted co-conspirator. If he hadn’t been president, he would been charged with conspiracy (to obstruct justice). Of course, Nixon resigned; he had some sense of norms and he cared about his legacy. Trump prefers to blow through norms and has no sense of history.

  12. minx says:

    I see Trump is trying a new hair color, still looks bad.

  13. Louisa says:

    I know this seems slow but I’ve been reading that compared to Nixon’s impeachment this is going at lightening speed. I didn’t grow up in the US so I don’t know all the details of Watergate but I have to assume that investigation took longer because the players involved were not all complete and utter morons like we have here. I mean it would be laughable if they weren’t destroying our democracy more and more every day.

    • swak says:

      Watergate took over 2 years before Nixon resigned. Also, IMO, the technology today makes it quicker to get evidence such as documents to Mueller. They can be sent in a computer file, whereas with Watergate you had paper documents.

      • Jerusha says:

        There was a very interesting Fresh Air yesterday with Daniel Ellsberg of the Pentagon Papers. He talked about how he stayed after work in the evenings and xeroxed the massive stack of papers one by one by one by one…. There was no document feed then and this was the same timeframe.

      • Lightpurple says:

        And Watergate took down a LOT of people. 40 government officials were indicted or jailed, including the attorney general & chief of staff.

      • LokiGal says:

        TRUE, but the double edged sword of technology is that anyone competent enough could erase all trace just as effectively.

        in another country when they tried to unseat their number 1 using his financial practices, he quickly fired everyone and replaced them with his people, then set fire to the police HQ (where the new and complicit head police honcho controls) where the harcopies where stored. no joke. the files were in boxes lined up in the hall way instead of the storage vaults.

        it was like a bad plot in a cheesy film.

    • Christin says:

      I recently ran across an editorial dated March 1974 that bemoaned how nothing was being done about Tricky Dick, with so much proof of corruption. It sounded like what we’re saying today. Nixon resigned in disgrace five months later.

      I’m waiting for the final count of how many end up charged. Orange’s lawyers will likely end up needing lawyers. The incompetence is astounding. It’s truly stupid Watergate.

  14. Eric says:

    Ah! With the Deutsche bank records, Mueller and team have more puzzle pieces on their 1000-piece puzzle. I said this past weekend that all the pieces were turned over and the edge ones were in. Now a clearer picture is emerging and its….

    The red hair of a satanic clown?

    Can’t be sure yet.

    I think Emperor Zero’s opportunity to try to fire Mueller is past with the news of Flynn and this weekend’s spazzout by Dotard and his “lawyers’” comments. A former Obama lawyer told Maddow that there are layers of investigators at the FBI who would take over Mueller’s investigation. He said you can’t fire everyone.

    Mueller apparently has a contigincy plan for being removed, but I’m not sure what it is. Schneiderman?

    • Tiny Martian says:

      Exactly. You can’t fire everyone, and Mueller has all his ducks in a row. This case is signed, sealed and delivered, so no matter who would take over if Mueller were removed, the outcome would be the same. Trump is now completely indefensible, they’ve got him for aiding and abetting computer crimes, illegal solicitation of in-kind foreign donations and conspiracy to commit fraud, followed by obstruction, witness tampering, and making false statements. So he’ll be indicted, it’s only a matter of time.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Can’t indict a sitting president, right? Or very, very hard to? With this House unwilling to take up impeachment as the Constitutional alternative, a cabinet of idiot misfits that won’t respect the 25th Amendment, there’s a problem. Thus the necessity of filing charges at the state level.

        I guess Pence could scurry in the background to line people up to remove Trump, but Pence is probably trying to cover his own legal ass, too.

        Americans, and the American political system, are way too reluctant to remove a bad president. If this were a parliamentary democracy, it’s likely a vote of “no confidence” would have been held after the first month.

      • Tiny Martian says:

        Well, that’s the big question, isn’t it? : can a sitting President be indicted? And it’s currently being heavily debated. I say, the best way to find out is for someone to try it! :)

      • Lightpurple says:

        Can indict. Question is whether a trial can proceed while the president is in office or has to wait until he leaves office. Supreme Court in Jones v Clinton said a civil case can go forward. Criminal case might get a different ruling

    • Branvoyage says:

      I don’t get how he can just fire him anyway. I thought the Justice Department and WH were separate entities in some way. Forgive my ignorance I need to crack a book.

      It’s good to know he has a plan in place, now that they have his finance records he’s going to lose what’s left of his mind.

  15. Spike says:

    I second your bitch please Kaiser. Or to quote Queen – another one bites the dust. And now he’s using his elderly sick mother as a shield. Vile scum.

    As someone alluded to in another post negative posts & tweets about Singer are disappearing

    Reddit has screen caps of the missing post

    Just my two cents – and I truly believe innocent until proven guilty. An innocent person would not go into hiding in terms of work, being seen any where, as well as on social media. I’m just saying…

  16. lightpurple says:

    For every Trump puppet who claims that Trump’s financial records are outside the scope of the investigation into Russia tampering with our election, and they aren’t, I ask for an explanation as to how, exactly, and please be specific, Monica Lewinsky was involved in Whitewater?

  17. Crackfox says:

    Don’t get too excited guys. I have a gross feeling in my stomach that no matter what crimes are proven, 45 and Mother’s Husband will be teflon. The Republicans won’t do anything unless Paul Ryan decides to turn on Trump so he can be President. And he may even pardon Trump after the fact. Either way we are screwed.

    Please use all of your excitement, anger, restlessness, and fear to motivate you to learn as much as you can about your local representatives. Learn about who’s running for what in 2018. Get informed and spread information. Encourage voting. Set up a program to get high school students registered. Don’t just complain about our government online. Please be proactive in making change.

  18. Jerusha says:

    Does Mueller have his tax records? I can only imagine they’re riddled with lies. And I hope he has Ballless Ken’s records, too.

  19. lunchcoma says:

    Why are these people all so stupid? I’m used to expecting it from Trump & Family, but at this point, everyone has a lawyer. Why are people – or their lawyers – admitting to guilt on Twitter? Why are criminal defendants on bail trying to write columns? Aren’t any of these people aware the best way to get away with a crime is to stop talking?

  20. Catherine says:

    “Mother’s Husband” 😭😭😭😭⚰️💀

  21. B n A fn says:

    I remember when Ken Star boxed Bill Clinton in with the blue 👗. Now I can see the same thing happening to the dotard, he will be boxed in with his income taxes for the last 10 years and all his lying and cheating. We will find out, sooner or later What he is hiding, he and his crime family. By the time this is over he will go done as the worse president in this country’s history. He can run but he can’t hide from Mueller. Lock him up, lock them all up.

  22. Eric says:

    I’m expecting KT McFarland to be charged with lying to the FBI in July (claiming Flynn didn’t discuss sanctions with Russia).

    I’m also expecting Jared to be charged with AT LEAST the same as KT. He was brought in to discuss “things” with Mueller when Flynn was already cooperating (last month). Bad news for Jared is that that 5-year max prison sentence for lying to the Feds is nothing compared to what Mueller has on him (conspiracy, computer crimes, the Logan Act, money-laundering [re 666 building]). No deals will be made with Jared by Mueller, except as a hook to catch Emperor Zero.

  23. Andrea says:

    Rachel Maddow reported on this in JANUARY about this bank and the money trail….

  24. isabelle says:

    If Baby Cakes tries to fire Mueller, and you know it will happen, protest is needed. Here is a link about organized rallying immediately after the firing:

    Oh and Vote them out in 2018 for standing by this traitor.

  25. holly hobby says:

    Flynn should have thought about his life and his reputation before consorting with the enemy of the state. Just saying…

  26. Balooon says:

    He launders big money for the russians and has for years.

  27. phatypopo says:

    He feels “badly” for Flynn – the mechanism by which he is able to feel for Flynn is apparently broken.

  28. Deeanna says:

    This past weekend was gratifying in the sense of showing us just how incompetent the Trump legal team is. I suspected they were pretty lame after the incident when Attorney Cobb was talking loudly about the case at an outdoor café with a reporter sitting nearby. Now we have another of Trump’s attorneys claiming responsibility for an incriminating email. Whether this attorney actually initiated this tweet himself or is clumsily attempting to cover for his client, he’s an idiot. (Unless he’s deliberately trying to get himself fired as a means of getting off the case.)

    And we’ve had Cobb proposing legal positions regarding the presidency – “If the President does it, it’s not a crime” – that were dismissed as ridiculous way back during the Nixon mess.

    Truly, the really good attorneys passed on representing Trump. In the meanwhile Mueller and his team are obviously moving forward.

    I have more hope today than I’ve had in a while now.

  29. Annetommy says:

    Sarah Sanders has now denied this at a press conference. And of course I believe her.