James Cameron: ‘I’m hoping we’re going to start getting Avenger fatigue’

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James Cameron made a lot of news last year for talking sh-t about Wonder Woman. It’s like he was just so mad that the ladies got a superheroine at long last, and he wanted to remind us – repeatedly! – that Gal Gadot was much too pretty and sexy to be taken seriously as a badass heroine. The fact that Cameron said all of that sh-t while he was promoting the Avatar sequels which no one wants… well, it was sort of funny. Anyway, Cameron has some more thoughts. Thoughts about Avatar, and thoughts about superhero films. Some highlights:

How he sees the Avatar sequels: “I found myself as a father of five, starting to think about what would an Avatar story be like if it was a family drama, if it was The Godfather. Obviously very different genre, very different genre, but I got intrigued by that idea. So, that’s really what it is. It’s a generational family saga. And that’s very different from the first film. Now, it’s the same type of setting, and there’s the same respect for the shock of the new, that we want to show you things that not only you haven’t seen, but haven’t imagined. I think that’s absolutely critical to it. But the story’s very different. It’s a continuation of the same characters, but what happen when warriors that are willing to go on suicide charges, and leap off cliffs on to the back of big orange toruks, what happens when they grow up and have their own kids? It becomes a very different story. Now the kids are the risk-takers and the change-makers. So, it’s interesting, but it makes sense to me. Everybody’s either a parent, or they had parents at the very least, and if you look at the big successful franchises now, they’re pretty much uninterested in that.”

On superhero films: “I’m hoping we’re going to start getting Avenger fatigue. Not that I don’t love the movies. It’s just, Come on, guys, there are other stories to tell besides, you know, hypogonadal males without families doing death-defying things for two hours and wrecking cities in the process.”

[From EW]

One, I don’t even know how many Terminator films there are at this point. It turns out there are six. It’s ridiculous, and that franchise was absolutely the precursor (and usurper) of the current superhero-film model. Two, I laughed at the thought of Avatar sequels being like The Godfather. Please, spare us this insanity. Three, he’s actually not… wrong about superhero fatigue? I’m sort of with him on that one. Please let superhero fatigue set in at some point.

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  1. Case says:

    After he dissed Wonder Woman for the most insulting reasons possible, I stopped listening to what he’s saying.

    I enjoy superhero movies a lot, and even I hope they die out at some point, because a lot of them ARE cookie-cutter and not offering anything new creatively. That said, I don’t think Cameron is in any position to comment on that. Because Avatar.

    • V4Real says:

      I thought I was getting superhero fatigue until I saw Infinity War last night , so nope.

      As long as there’s money to be made off these films they will keep going. I’m no more tired of them than I am comedies, drama or thrillers. Now I’m ready for Deadpool.
      Oh and Camaron have several seats please and drink your cups of STFU’s

    • BlueSky says:

      Poor James, so desperately hanging on to relevancy. No one cared about your 20 Terminator movies and you are not getting the same excitement for Avatar as you were hoping. What happened? Did you want to direct a Marvel movie and they turned you down?????

  2. Umyeah says:

    Okay i may be alone onnthis but i really didnt care for Avatar. Yes it was visually stunning but the plot was tired and had been done a thousand times before. So yeah im good withou more Avatar movies

    • lucy2 says:

      You’re not alone – I had Avatar fatigue before the movie ended. The visuals were interesting at first, but like you said, the story was nothing new or exciting. I have ZERO desire to see any of the sequels.

      He seems pissy about anything that does well at the box office that he doesn’t have a hand in.

    • Deanne says:

      You aren’t alone. I didn’t get the lauding of the first one and certainly won’t be rushing out the the theatres to se the next 4. Visuals aren’t enough to hold my interest.

    • JeanGray says:

      Agree. It was a marvel to look at in real, authentic 3-D, however the plot line was so basic and predictable, the film just ended up being eye-candy without much substance.

    • Slowsnow says:

      TBH I don’t even remember the plot or much of the film for that matter.

      • Lightpurple says:

        White savior saves nature and blue people from his kind by teaching them to be better at their own culture

    • Jenns says:

      The 3-D was really cool at the time. The plot was average at best. It’s a forgettable movie.

    • Nicole says:

      You’re not alone. It took me ages to see avatar because I wasn’t interested and I left feeling meh. Visually stunning but not something I want to see again.
      Cameron is mad because no one asked for these avatar movies that he’s proposed she’s ago. There’s not clamoring for sequels and so he’s being a baby. Just like when he shaded his ex when she was getting some shine.

    • Beezers says:

      The only interesting thing about Avatar was the 3D. His storylines are usually 1 dimensional, including Titanic.

      He is such an a-ho. Even Linda Hamilton said so after he won the Oscar. When asked, LIVE, if she thought the Oscar was going to change him, she said, “He’s pretty much an a$$h0le all the time, so no.”

    • H says:

      Avatar was horrible but I loved the first Terminator movie.

  3. PPP says:

    Too bad for him, because I already have James Cameron fatigue.

  4. ValiantlyVarnished says:

    He’s so full of *hit. He talked crap about WW because he felt like his films were better and had a more feminist tone – which is laughable. And now he’s dissing Avengers because Black Panther usurped Titanic on the highest-grossing films list. Basically this Bitter Betty is mad at any film doing better than his have. I find it funny how he talks about super hero fatigue when all he puts out are sequels of films he’s already made.

  5. Ginger says:

    Feeling irrelevant, Jimmy?

  6. Mia4s says:

    Well I’m a bit tired of superhero films…but I’m definitely tired of redundant Terminator sequels/reboots that are meant to start franchises but don’t because they suck and the idea is played out. Oh what’s that Mr.Cameron? Terminator 6 is coming? Sigh…🙄

  7. Darla says:

    I don’t know how anyone can be tired of superhero movies after Black Panther this year. That’s a hard no from me.

    • Slowsnow says:

      To be honest, Ragnarok and Black Panther were the only superhero films I really loved and it’s because they stray a bit from the usual premise. So you can be tired of superhero films and have loved BP and Ragnarok because that’s exactly how I feel.
      The other day I saw an article about how great the 90’s films were and to tell you the truth I am ready for Indie-style films to make a comeback, Ladybird notwithstanding (I found it dreadful).

      • Darla says:

        I get it. And you are right about indie-style films, we do need more of them.

      • PPP says:

        I think the kind of energy that resulted in indie films is now just getting played out on TV. I don’t feel like I’m missing out creatively because TV is just so incredible now and I get much more invested than I would in a movie.

  8. girl_ninja says:

    He is so pretentious and overrated. I’ve certainly got James Cameron fatigue.

  9. ds says:

    What is his problem? Do your thing and let studios make big bucks on superheroes so that some other films that are not blockbusters can be made. I mean is he affraid no one will give a crap about Avatar? It was the plainest story ever told anyway. And just like the superhero movies…Those films help make technical things developed, they bring money are fun and if you don’t care for them don’t. Not like he’s making some art atm

    • Tiffany says:

      You are right ds. And if Disney sales goes through, they gets all the Fox rights. They will own not only Avatar but also the rights to the Alien franchise as well.

      Disney is one buyout away from demagogue status so they can make holy hell for Cameron and these films.

      I personally think he should do another Alien film as that really was his best work and I think they are gonna encourage him to do so as well.

  10. Tiffany says:

    This is the man that brought Aliens and True Lies into my life.

    And then he speaks words.

    Stop speaking words, James.

  11. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    He has his share of franchises. How many times did Warrant Officer Ripley survive the aliens? He’s such a hypocrite. Comic books, video games, toys, etc. were spawned from his creations so all his musings reek of insecurity. Terminator will be back. As I’m sure we’ll again see the Covenant, Prometheus, Nostromo and Juggernaut.

  12. Lightpurple says:

    Oh, James. I saw Infinity Wars last night and am almost anxious over the cliffhanger ending. Why can’t I buy my ticket to Ant-Man & the Wasp now?

    To say these stories are about males without family tells me you haven’t actually watched any of them. Black Panther was all about family: brother betraying brother, a brother-sister relationship full of love and sibling teasing, an outcast cousin trying to find his way back in. Thor’s story is all about family too: the demanding father who pits his kids against one another, the caring mom who forgives and heals, sibling rivalry. Ant-Man is all about father-daughter relationships, both about being there when the daughter is little but also maintaining that relationship when the daughter is an adult. Guardians is about how we build families out of friends & coworkers when we lose our biological relatives. And Infinity War, without divulging plot details contains a lot of family dynamics and love: the brotherly love of Thor and Loki, the sisterly love of Gamora and Nebula, the love of Drax for his murdered family, the romantic love in various stages of Vision and Wanda, Starlord and Gamora, Tony and Pepper. The love of friendship. And even the fatherly love of Thanos for Gamora.

    Not sure I’m interested in any more white savior Avatar stories, James.

  13. VintageS says:

    He really can’t share his toys, can he?

    The best ever was Tina and Amy at the Golden Globes,

    “I haven’t been really following the controversy over Zero Dark Thirty, but when it comes to torture, I trust the lady [Kathryn Bigelow] who spent three years married to James Cameron.”

  14. Lala says:

    He is the PERSONIFICATION of the word…”Hater”…and after “Titanic”…you would have to pay me to watch another one of his movies….

  15. Mrrreow says:

    He’s so obviously and obnoxiously envious of the attention and money that the super hero films are getting. Sorry, James, you’re just not relevant at this point in time.

  16. Iso says:

    Avatar 2 has been in development for like a decade and I already have Avatar fatigue, so… Pot shouldn’t talk.

  17. Electric Tuba says:

    He has always looked like the evil twin of the dad from Family Ties to me and so I’ve automatically reduced anything he has ever said to rubbish. Plus I loathed Titanic. He’s just so turdish to me lol sorry!

  18. Mads says:

    Just got my avengers ticket, no fatigue from me.

  19. isadora says:

    You can sell your movies without dissin someone elses accomplishments. If he for whatever reason didn’t like the Wonder Woman movie he could’ve just mentioned briefly or just shut the f**k up and go about his business.

    Also if he he’s hoping for superhero fatigue then he should be hoping for franchise fatigue in general. How many useless movie sequels do we need to basically tell 1 ( maybe 2 ) story/stories over and over again?

    I thought i was alone in my “i don’t care about avatar”. Granted i didn’t go the cinema at the time to see it but when it came on the tv i made an attempt. I tried to be engaged but i just couldn’t. I turned it off probably halfway. Dull as dishwater.
    And he wants to fatigue us with a sprawling “Godfather” saga of blue balls? Yeah, no thanks i’m good. I’ll save my money for movies that i do feel are my moneys worth.

  20. Pandy says:

    I have James Cameron fatigue. What to do about THAT???

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  22. CK3 says:

    This coming from the same man who is about to give us 4 sequels of blue people. I imagine that we’re really only getting 2/3 though. Avatar was an event thanks to the new tech. The story was weak as hell though. At a certain point, it’s just going to get repetitive.

    At least, MCU has managed to introduce new worlds/interesting characters w/ almost every entry.

  23. Ray says:

    Bitter and jealous old man, long live the superhero franchise just to piss him off…..

  24. SM says:

    He sure thinks very highly of himself. He needs to take a seat. Avatar is right there on the same shelf as superhero movies

  25. DesertReal says:

    He is such a hypocrite, and he doesn’t even realize it.

  26. Hannah says:

    I have fatigue about many things in popular culture but when you have films as entertaining as Thor 3…it’s hard to be fed up.

  27. Bridget says:

    Says the man spending an astronomical amount of money making 4 movies that no one has asked for. No thanks.

  28. Ruyana says:

    You know, I went to Avatar 27 times, have the ticket stubs to prove it, because I was quitting smoking and it helped distract me.

    That was in 2009 and he STILL hasn’t made a sequel. I did quit smoking in 2009, so there’s that, but now I’m 74 years old and by the time this fool makes a sequel I’ll probably be too infirm to go! Which really ticks me off.

  29. Izzy says:

    Sit down you cranky-pants fart, with your gazillion Trminator and Avatar movies.

  30. Kate says:

    Avatar SUUUUUCKED.