Jada Pinkett Smith has been so open on her Facebook talkshow, Red Table Talks, that I’m embarrassed on her behalf. Yesterday we covered her latest episode, about sex, in which she told shocking stories about sex toys and masturbation in front of her mom, her teenage daughter and her daughter’s best friend. Also yesterday, Jada posted a candid Instagram (which we didn’t cover) in which she admitted that she’s gone through depression and has considered suicide. She posted a message along with photos of Anthony Bourdain and Kate Spade, writing that she’s done spiritual work and self growth over the years to recover. It was a heartfelt sentiment and she deserves credit for being so vulnerable and open. There was arguably an element of “I have the answers” to it.
Earlier this week Jada was on Megyn Kelly’s segment of Today, which is inexplicably still not canceled. Megyn must have an ironclad contract. (Plus we know what complete a-holes NBC executives are, given how they covered for Matt Lauer’s assaults for years.) Jada is promoting her Facebook series and has no films or TV shows coming out this year. Anyway here’s some of what she told Megyn and you can watch the video below. Megyn really kissed Jada’s ass and she was clearly loving it.
On why she’s so open on Red Table Talks
I think that at 47, I’ve come through so much. The one thing that I’ve realized in my life is that people who’ve had the courage to share their testimonies with me have been such powerful elixirs. We don’t talk enough about what’s going on within us. I wanted a place where we could feel safe to do that. I do that often within my own family, so I was like ‘let’s just share that.’
On Willow calling fame “terrible” and admitting she used to cut herself
I was [shocked] but at that moment Willow was speaking from a place of power. As her mother I needed to meet her there instead of crumbling within my own insecurities. She had come through.
On the work she’s done on herself after suicidal thoughts
I was just sharing on my Instagram the other day of those times I was in such deep despair that I also thought of taking my own life and how there’s not one answer. It’s like life is a journey to help us get to a place of healing. I wish somebody had told me that.
On her grandmother teaching her about self pleasuring
She taught me *about* self pleasuring. There was no tutorial but she did explain to me the importance of it. She taught me about the birds and the bees. It was very different than what she taught my mother. [She taught] sex education in high school.
On knowing when Jaden lost his virginity
I knew with Jaden for sure. The night. There’s just a certain swag. He was walking different. My little boy was gone.
On raising her kids famous
It has its challenges. I think that we can never forget that at the end of the day we’re all human. Whatever your lifestyle may be, your nationality, your color, your gender. We all bleed the same color.
Megyn pushed Jada on how the kids didn’t like fame
Jaden has come into himself a bit more in regards to it. Even Willow now hasn’t decided if this is something she wants to do as a career. Unfortunately she’s part of a family that is in the spotlight. She’s trying to figure out who she is and the life that she wants to have within that.
[From The Megyn Kelly show, video below]
Jada also talked about losing her identity and sense of self after becoming a mother and called that the “hardest she’s ever grieved.” She said that she “let a lot of that old Jada go that I didn’t have to.” As for her 20 year marriage to Will Smith, she said “Will and I have a very unique partnership. You can love someone and allow them to be exactly who they are.” She promised to have Will on RTT next.
Jada did gave good advice about depression and suicidal thoughts. Both things can be true – she can be a narcissist and she can be someone who’s had true difficulties she’s overcome. I’m glad that she clarified the advice her grandmother gave her at 9 about self pleasuring. Many people were concerned about that after reading the headlines.
It sounded like Jada is disappointed in Willow for not wanting a career in show business. Read her answer about Jaden “coming into himself” as if he’s more evolved than Willow. Plus Jada is putting Willow on RTT, that speaks volumes.
The press is embracing Jada’s Girls’ Trip co-star Tiffany Haddish, she just scored the cover of The Hollywood Reporter. Maybe that’s part of the reason we’re seeing so much of Jada lately. Tiffany is all about opening up, but it feels genuine when she does it.
Here’s the interview:
Willow is selling hoodies online now.
photos credit: Backgrid, Instagram and screenshots from Megyn Kelly show and Red Table Talks