I’m still not interested in what Thomas Markle has to say. I’m not going to get multiple stories out of “Thomas Markle says Meghan can’t wait to be pregnant!” or “Thomas Markle talked about Brexit with Harry!” As I said yesterday, it was clear to me that Piers Morgan had worked out some kind of script with Thomas Markle, and Piers expected Thomas to deliver. It’s trashy and really f–ked up. It didn’t go over well in Britain either – apparently, there was widespread social media condemnation and criticism of the interview too. Pour all of your hatred on Piers Morgan, for sure, but save some for Thomas Markle, because he’s a grown-ass man who is repeatedly choosing to sell out his daughter.
The Daily Mail reported yesterday that Good Morning Britain paid Thomas Markle for the interview, just as Coleman-Rayner paid him for the posed “paparazzi” photos too. It’s all a script, and don’t buy it when the British media clutches their pearls about HOW DARE Thomas Markle take money, when they’re the ones paying the Markle family for their lies and horsesh-t. According to LaineyGossip’s sources, GMB paid a pretty penny for this exclusive too:
My sources tell me that it was Samantha Markle who set this up. Which means it wasn’t for free. According to Piers Morgan, Thomas was paid “a few thousand pounds” for the interview because “he wanted to set the record straight”. A few thousand pounds isn’t a lie. But … it’s on the higher end of “a few thousand pounds”. I’m told that “a few thousand pounds” was between 30 and 40 thousand pounds. So, like, in the neighbourhood of US$50-60K and nearly CDN$80K.
I believe it. All of them are gutter trash, from Samantha to Thomas to Piers. Considering this sum of money, it makes you wonder what Thomas really got paid for setting up those paparazzi photos, right? My guess is between the staged pap photos, the GMB interview and the TMZ exclusives, Thomas Markle has easily stocked away about $200,000 from selling out his daughter.
Piers Morgan also confirmed that Thomas Markle didn’t give the palace a heads-up whatsoever that he was doing this LIVE interview. So once again, Meghan’s father screwed over the palace publicly. How f–king stupid. When Thomas showed his ass just days before the wedding, I said that long-term, it would be a good thing because it would be Meghan’s excuse to completely cut off this side of her family and really get absorbed into the Windsor Clan. That’s what is already happening – she’s a duchess now, doing duchess business, and she has zero time for her garbage father.
Photos courtesy of GMB, WENN, Backgrid, PCN.
He’s such an ass. I feel sorry for Meghan, but she’s too busy going on overnights with the Queen of England to really be bothered. (I’m sure it bothers her on some level still….but what’s the saying? living your life well is the best revenge?)
Nothing this a$$hole says has any meaning beyond himself. Even his *sadness* at missing his own daughter’s wedding was because he had missed out on *being a part of history.* He has said that repeatedly.
I feel for Meghan, and very much hope that she can find a way not to let her father’s repeated betrayals of her dim the happiness she has every right to feel in her new life with Harry.
F him. You know second Piers Morgan is involved that nothing goodcan come from it. F him and his money grabbing. I hope Meghan and Harry have the balls to at some point just say we have nothing to do with this guy – he doesn’t speak for us, and cut the head off the snake. Meghans famiy have no shame repeatedly selling her out, and she should have no shame publicly cutting them off.
“I want to have a nice, normal relationship with my royal family as well now.” He said this, he actually said this! TM is deluded I think, does he think the Queen will invite him for sleepovers after selling the royals out time and again.
This reminds me of the interview with Meghan and Harry in which he said she didn’t have a family, and the outrage at him portraying himself as a white savior. And the subsequent wave of articles about her family… He shouldn’t have said that, but it’s clear he was right.
I hate that the british media is treating him with kid glove (white men gloves). He had 1 job that he couldn’t do. He can go hang i don’t want to hear his side of his story and it neither H or MM or The Palaces fault.
It’s up to him to figure out how to be a dad. He failed and now he’s making it worse coz his ego is bruised.
Royal motto: Never complain. Never explain.
Meghan will never address any of these stories, and as much as the BRF has closed ranks around her, it still must hurt her.
Thomas Markle has as big a bucket-mouth as Samantha (?) and his son. I can understand the bitterness of his older kids, but to sell out his own daughter? He should have, at the very least, pulled the family together and told them to shut up very early in the piece. He has no concept of loyalty or discretion. It’s too late now. They’ve done their dash. Meghan may see or speak to him in private, but I’m betting that’s as far as it goes. No invites to special occasions, no parties, no little holidays with the royal relative… They are an utter embarrassment. Poor Meghan. You can choose your friends…
I don’t understand the bitterness of the older kids at all. They’ve always hated her just for existing.
That might exactly be the problem for them. She exists. There are children who never get over the fact that their parents moved on to build a new family.
That is quite painful and not an easy thing to swallow. Doesn’t excuse this sort of behaviour, somewhere on the road they should have at least matured enough to be silent now. But that’s what came to my mind after reading your comment.
I don’t care that he got $ to do an interview or some pap pics. I know many people that follow RF stuff are going to jump on that as they do every little thing that any royal does, ie. relatives, buttons, etc. Imo this happens all the time in the celebrity/RF media world. It’s par for the course.
What I really dislike is that he’s deliberately trying to make Harry and Meghan look bad and make things difficult for them for the $ he can make from media. It’s one thing to give a paid interview and just introduce you’re self to the public and only give out harmless info of Meghan. It’s another thing all together to say politically charged comments and lies just so you can assure the press will continue to call you for interviews and offer even more $ cause they know they’ll make millions off of every crazy thing he says.
Lainey got it wrong. DM said he was paid $10,000.
Yes, and he didn’t make anything from the pap photos. What they sold for is not what he got.
Lainey’s source is also likely to be a Mulroney, who might just be estimating what the figure was as opposed to some source within Piers Morgan’s crew.
He didn’t make anything from the pap pics? Cmon now.
Im willing to bet my last $ that Lainey’s source is most likely NOT a Mulroney. My guess is Scobie or someone close to the British media gossip, the Mulroneys know NOTHING, and Lainey gets a lot of “gossip” right about 60% of the time. And the DM would never tell the truth when it comes to that maggot Piers vs. prince Harry, the Fail wouldn’t throw Piers under the bus. I’m believing Lainey over the Fail.
Right? I love how so many people take Lainey’s gossip as fact – she gets things wrong as often as she gets them right – and it’s a fing gossip blog not the word of god. I know she sells herself as being super connected…but come on…
I used to enjoy reading Lainey but now that she has her show, there is hardly any gossip on her blog and it is all the “science of gossip”. Because of her CTV gigs (The Social and E Talk) I am betting if she really did have a source, it is a crew member that she had worked with for one of her shows.
The Daily Mail is really not more or less reliable than Lainey. They’re both stupid hacks.
The DM lies and Lainey’s sources have been wrong a lot though I think the DM is lying so that Piers won’t look as stupid as he does right now. I can believe 50 thousand and I believe he’s been paid before.
What a PR nightmare for KP in less than a month after the wedding.
I mean…is it? I dunno how the Brits feel but everyone I know finds this kind of trashy behavior to make them *more* protective of Meghan, which in turn makes her more likeable and sympathetic. I mean I wouldn’t wish this on anyone, but if it softens the public perception of her then that’s a good thing.
These are my thoughts as well. No, this interview isn’t good, and I know most of us here tend to like Meghan anyway, but I can see how this interview, plus the pap photos, etc are going to generate sympathy for Meghan. And the more she keeps her mouth shut and just lets her family show their asses, the better she looks IMO.
Agree. Most people with an ounce of empathy will sympathise with and be supportive of Meghan since it’s clear she has no control over the rogue elements of her family.
Yes, exactly.
I think her family is seen for what they are and it does humanize her a lot. It also shows that her mother is the one responsible for raising her to be a decent person. Doria ditching him is totally understandable and his behavior explains so much about things that have been said. NOW we understand why he never met Harry. She tried to give him cover and spin it so that her father didn’t look so bad but TM can’t help himself and showed his ass anyway.
I agree, by not saying anything it will just die away and the dad and siblings come out the worse for it. Now Piers Morgan needs to retire.
The minute I told my mom he got paid for the interview she said “well, it’s clear what HE is all about – the money.”
In the end, I don’t think most people will see as a PR nightmare for KP, but just an indication of the type of person her dad is. That he took money to be interviewed in this way says it all really.
To be honest, KP should have handled this. They have had a month since the meltdown before the wedding, to handle this.
They should have either locked him down, with monetary incentive if necessary OR publicly distanced Meghan from him. They did neither.
Huge amount of sympathy for Meghan having such a POS father, but in terms of PR this has been repeatedly mishandled by KP.
I agree KP mishandled this but I feel they simply thought they had it handled prior to Thomas’ pap debacle just before the wedding.
Given the situation, how exactly are they to handle the Markles?
I mean you mention some kind of financial incentive but Thomas Sr, Samantha and Thomas Jr, seem the type to keep coming for more. That tactic just sets KP up for future extortion.
Besides, I can only imagine the taxpayer outcry (even if private funds were used) about how the British citizens are not only carrying the BRF but now their vulgar American-in-laws. Paying them off might pass if they were British but could blow up spectacularly given they are American. And being so vulgar, it wouldn’t be quiet for long.
IMO, it’s probably best to let them gradually discredit themselves. They’ve shown they have no integrity or morals.
Abby – Meghan has plenty of her own money, pay these fools off and get them to sign NDA’s. Or bring them into the fold like the Middleton’s so they scan make money without emebarassing Meghan. I don’t know what the solution is, but it doesn’t seem like KP had/has any plan to deal with these people!
A payout is exactly what they’re aiming for so I don’t blame Meghan or KP for not giving in to that, even if it did come with an NDA. As much as it may pain her I think Meghan needs to publicly denounce her father & siblings. She knows/has known the kind of people they are and it’s time for her to take that last, official step and cut all ties for good (it seems she already has with the sister & brother, and sadly she now needs to with her father). Maybe she already has emotionally, but she needs to shut this sh*t down for good and without giving them the financial satisfaction.
Why the heck should Meghan or the Royal family pay off these money grabbers, they’ve nothing to hang over Meghan’s head.
If they thought they were hurting Meghan, they are just making people empathize with Meghan, and why she needed to cut them all off, including the father, delete his number.
Freedom of speech in the USA, how can BP muzzle the Markles, people see Vonnie as a bitter woman, the half brother as an alcoholic woman beater.
Why did tom Sr, not ask his son not to raise his hand to women.
Now they are looking at her father as loser, selling out his daughter for a buck.
Meghan carry on, you can’t choose your family, but you can stay away from them, and your Markle family members even with the Ocean between you may need them in Space.
As has been said before, NDAs wouldn’t work with this bunch.
KP has never had to deal with the Markle’s lol however we need some perspective on this. A member of the Royal Family is not doing anything wrong. The Duchess of Sussex has been a model of grace, dignity and class since getting serious with Harry. She is not her broke ass family. Let us, however look at the messes that actual members of the Royal family have created which needed managing:
Duke of York accused of sleeping with underaged girls and linked to pedophile
Duchess of York caught trying to sell access to Duke of York for hundreds of thousands of dollars
Duchess of Cambridge making a naive choice to sunbathe topless
Sophie Rhys Jones taped speaking out of turn causing great embarassment
Prince William drunk dancing with younger women away from his wife
Duke and Duchess of Cambridge bad publicity for lack of work engagments
Prince Harry’s many foibles and nazi costume that he will never live down.
Tampongate in the 90’s, toe sucking photos, affairs…
I could go on but this is exhausting. My point is that to me the members of the Royal family could learn from the example of Meghan as to how to conduct themselves and have made the antics of Meghan’s own family look rather tame by comparison.
No, they should not pay them and like minx said NDAs wouldn’t work. These people live for attention and money so any given just breathes life into their nonsense.
It is better to let them hang themselves and then send out some surrogates with receipts about Tom and crew’s horrible behavior over the years. Not right now or it will turn into a drama but once the dust settles scorch the earth with them but frame it so it can’t be traced by to KP. Then just make the story about how Kate is the sister Meghan never had (burn Samantha) and how HAPPY she is with her new family. How she bravely survived The Markles and how hard she tried to get along…blah blah. Some optics of how charming and cozy she is with Charles, her new father figure. Wills is the steady older brother who is protective of the sister HE never had.
It is true anyway, mostly and the BRF just look great in comparison. If they want to really kick them hard do it when she is expecting their first baby. They will come out again with their pity party but once the baby comes no one will question why they don’t have any access. No one will want the precious royal baby breathing the same air as these dangerous kooks.
If I had my way I would make them look so bad they would beg the US Marshals to put them into Witness Protection just, so they could change their identities.
@magnoliarose exactly right. You don’t go for the short-term with this, you look at the long term. Just like Tom Jr. and Samantha eventually hung themselves, so too will Sr. And once he does, and the dust settles from him doing it (and it might take up to two years for that to happen IMO), THEN you send out the surrogates and scorch the earth with them that can’t be traced back.
Also, make sure Doria is there at things like the birth of Harry and Meghan’s first kid (or that she flies in soon after if she can’t make it before) as well as at the christening, if photos of that get released. Continuing to show, just like the wedding and wedding family pictures did, who REALLY raised Meghan and has always had her back, first and foremost, despite all the harsh things that were said about and thrown at her.
Most of America already thinks the Markles have made the US look bad on the world stage – not as bad as Trump, but close. But that Doria and Meghan have represented the US well. Like you, if I had my way, the Tom Sr., Tom Jr., and Samantha would be the dictionary definition of the “Ugly American” right along with Trump.
Short of shooting the guy dead or abducting him and throwing him in some dark place and silencing him for eternity, KP can’t do anything if this guy is NOT willing to meat them anywhere. If they reach out to him to offer their protection and he continuously turns them down cold every single time, what are they supposed to do? Just let the Markles continue to make arses of themselves, let the British media keep up with this stupidity and a time will come when they will turn on each other. Trust me, Meghan just needs to stay quiet and bide her time, they will self implode one way or another.
Piers was the one who called Samantha a viper, right? And she still helped set up this interview and Thomas had no problem taking money from Piers and doing an interview.
Meghan will be holding her head high and enjoying Royal Ascot today. I looking forward to seeing the newlyweds today. Hopefully, they’ll be making an appearance today or sometime this week.
@Cher — Yep, the Sussexes will be at Ascot today. It’s been confirmed and they are even handing out a trophy for one of the races!!
Their trip to Ireland (Dublin) has also been confirmed this morning. July 10-11.
Ignoring the noise and living well is the best revenge!!
ooh I’m excited we have a date for Ireland! I may have just clapped my hands together a bit lol.
Oh yes, I just read that. Forget Mr. Markle, live well Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex.
Ignoring the noise…well said, Cher. I’ve seen a few pics and video of Meghan’s arrival at Ascot and am looking forward to more coverage here. Hope the presentation she and Harry will make goes well.
If this were happening to me, being sold out by my FATHER?? I’d be 20 different types of hysterical crazy. They never land their trash near her, she’s utterly untouched by them; serene and grace personified. Love her.
He’s creating a situation where she will have no choice but to cut him out completely and that will,play into their plans as they will use it to make more money by selling lies. This will bite him not the ass again as am sure the receipts about his surgery will be outed. As let’s face it no one is really buying it. Piers will turn on him. Either that or TMZ will.
And FFS how can KP keep getting away with fking things up PR wise. I know the best way to deal with people like this is to give them the rope to hang themselves with but they need to counter the press around the things Harry is alledged to have said, mind u no one believes that as the royals are taught from a young age to be careful what they say to people they don’t know well.
He’s either too stupid or greedy to realise the implicatythis has on not only his precious image but his lasting relationship with his youngest daughter. Vile Vonnie will be loving this as she is getting what she wants and that’s a wedge between Meghan and her father. There is some serious jealously issues between the two older siblings and Meghan.
They don’t need to counter anything since no one with a working brain would consider those clearly throwaway comments about trump and brexit remotely important.
Skylark- that’s not true – morning kitchen conversation at my work amongst some of the staff today was about how ‘harry is pro brexit’ based on the Piers Morgan interview. People do believe this shit. Especially when it’s what they want to hear/believe.
Piers Morgan’s is an arsehole, but he is not stupid. He knew exactly what he was doing when he sowed the seeds of ‘give trump a chance’ etc in this interview.
“Especially when it’s what they want to hear/believe.”
And that’s precisely why there’s absolutely no point in clarifying anything about it! Drawing attention to it would just give it importance it absolutely does not warrant.
Oh you are absolutely correct about that – I’m just saying we can’t pretend that people aren’t buying what piers/Thomas Markle are selling. Piers knows his audience and he has very successfully planted the ‘harry is pro brexit and or trump’ seed without actually saying so or needing to provide any evidence. People believe it. Maybe not the audience for this blog, or you or me or our friends/echo chamber, but millions who watch Morgan’s trash show and read red tops etc. They exist, they matter, they vote, and they believe this shit.
Clare, what are red tops?
Lady D – red tops meaning tabloids, like the sun etc
Thanks, Clare:)
I think at this point, there’s not much KP can do. Markle knows exactly what he’s doing at this point, and still chooses to do so. He chooses to listen to Samantha despite the public humiliation that resulted from the last time.
I don’t see how KP can exert any control over this man.
They can’t, so the best course is to leave him alone, especially now that it’s known he took money for this interview. A large amount of money.
Seriously, many people are looking at this from the wrong angle IMO. You have to look at this from a long-term political angle, not a short-term emotional family angle. That’s why KP were actually pretty smart to let Tom Jr. and Samantha keep doing what they were doing for almost two years. There was no short-term gain from trying to control them, (which they never could have), but many long-term benefits to ignoring them.
Because by the time of the wedding, everyone saw Tom Jr. and Samantha for exactly what they were. And everyone completely understood why Meghan cut them out of her life.
Now, I think KP – or someone – made a mistake in not grouping Tom Sr. with them (because I truly think he was selling Meghan out long before the staged pictures thing broke), and inviting him to the wedding. (I think Meghan knew the whole time he wouldn’t come – he didn’t go to her first wedding). However, now’s the time to correct that in treating Sr. the same way Tom Jr. and Samantha were treated. Ignore them, while Sr. continues collecting interview checks. Every time he does it it makes it easier and easier for the final cut off of him to happen as well.
Between him and Tommy Lee, it looks like a f*cked-up father contest in here.
If anyone thinks this interview was bad, just wait until Meghan and Harry decide to start a family. I can only imagine what Thomas will say about the type of parent Meghan will be and how he hopes to be a part of his grandchild’s life.
Also Thomas has not made a public statement about Meghan’s mother, but I am willing to bet it is just a matter of time before he decides to start trashing her if Meghan doesn’t pay more attention to him.
The man is just trash
Oh, but he did discuss Doria and his marriage in his interview with Piers. It wasn’t terrible things, but it really didn’t need to be discussed like this whole interview.
Yeah, I’m already starting to worry about when Meghan and Harry have kids. You know this pathetic excuse of a man will be phoning up the press constantly to whinge about not being able to see his grandchildren. Ugh, he’s just so awful.
To be fair, he didn’t say a single negative thing about any of them. In fact, he was effusive with his praise for Meghan, Harry and Doria.
And to his credit, the only person he made any derogatory comments about was Trump.
Just saying. ✌️
He intruded on their privacy. He doesn’t have to say something negative to do damage. He did make it clear that he has absolutely no respect for their privacy or boundaries.
Sadly, that’s true too
i watched GMB and piers morgan had Paul burrell on discussing how the palace and meghan might have reacted to the surpise interview.. and then snagged KP off for not advising thomas markle better on how to handle the press etc. crazy!
He definitely told the dad what to say on brexit and trump, that is his 2 favourite things to say about both topics. Hope people dont take heed of it. Piers is an odious toad of a man.
All Piers Morgan has done is make it easier for Meghan to cut Tom Sr. out of her life by paying the man for that interview. Because it just takes common sense not to sell out your kid for money.
The Palace needs a Cease & Desist on the ready for these cockroaches. They are the absolute worst. I believe it might take a lawsuit to shut them up.
They would absolutely love that. Massively. Because they can then book lots and lots of 💵 interviews to talk about how they’re being picked on, their first amendment rights, the Palace punching down, #royalfamilyproblems.
Oh, and GOFUNDME for their various fees, such as: health care bills due to all the stress of getting oppressed by BRF, moving house bills due to paparazzi stalking, funding for new cars, due to all the car crashes due to all the paparazzi stalking due to the royal family harassing them.
So yeah, that would be a dream come true for them. #BRFProblems
Exactly. Best course of action to just ignore them. Sooner or later they’ll hang themselves more, just like Samantha did to herself.
Hopefully she has cut out the Markels entirely by now and their usefulness to the press will start to rapidly decline
Meghan father is just completely selfish.
Meghan’s mother has had crap said about her, from his oldest daughter no less, but she hasn’t felt the need to “defend herself” .
I hope $10,000 was worth it, if that’s all he really got
Can only imagine the pain Meghan is feeling, but I hope she ignores him and concentrates on her husband, her mother, her friends and in laws that truly love her and have her best interest at heart. It’s time to remove Thomas from her life. She’s not daddy’s girl any longer. She’s an adult. She no longer needs his approval and love.
Thomas saw an opportunity and took it. I hope he saves his money because the gravy train will dry up eventually.
Shame on any news outlet that gives him any time at all.
Okay, I don’t think he should have done this especially the money part, or he should have organized through the royals, but the interview by itself is not bad. Unlike her crazy half-sister he doesn’t say anything bad about her or Prince Harry for that matter. He calls her a smart girl, and says nice things about him. He’s calls Prince Harry a gentleman. Says the royal family is lucky to have her, and she will be great. No nasty comments like her half sister and brother, so in that instance it is a lot better. If he wasn’t paid and the Royals had been involved, it wouldn’t be that bad of an interview. The Trump comment is a bit of a headline, but listen to his comment it is really bland. Prince Harry, who can’t have a political opinion in public, didn’t really give one to his future father in law either. Smart idea on Harry’s part as he didn’t know what he would do with any information. Sure the whole things has a bad taste about it, but the interview is kind of generic. What you would expect when two people get married. I think if people want him to go away, stop giving him more press. Cause honestly listen to the interview, no new info, the guys is very calm, kind of monotone, and the info is not that news worthy and definitely not gossip worthy.
I agree totally. Apart from sidestepping most of Piers various traps, he sold his daughter well.
The only questionable comment was about Harry not raising a hand to her which was odd…..however, once you remember that his own son was arrested for pointing a gun to his gf not that long ago, it sort of puts it in context.
The worst part is he did this without letting Meghan and Harry know. That is sneaky and shows it is about the money. He didn’t want to be stopped. He didn’t say anything awful, but he set up this interview behind his daughter’s back. That says it all. After all the trouble he caused her and then he goes and sets up an interview without her knowledge, or Harry’s.
@Noway – that’s pretty much what I said yesterday, that I found the interview, on the whole, quite benign and the reaction to some of the content more than a bit on the OTT side. But, as others point out, it’s not what he said that’s problematic, it’s that he did this interview without Meghan’s knowledge and with no regard whatsoever for how it would impact on her. And well-intentioned or not (and I still do believe it was well-intentioned on his part), there’s really no getting away from his singularly stupid, thoughtless, loose-cannon tendencies.
Yes. You are right and it’s incredibly sad. They’re going to find it impossible to trust him again in any meaningful way.
But I also don’t believe he had malicious intentions either. I guess I’m feeling kind of irritated that not enough emphasis is being placed on examining the way certain sections of the press and tabloids seem to have free reign to harrass, oppress and force people into taking steps that end up being so destructive towards their lives.
I feel like Piers Morgan and ITV should be metaphorically roasting on a spit right now and they’re not. Nowhere near. Meghan and Mr Markle will take most of the heat for this, as usual.
@Belle DuPont – yes, the media has played a huge and nasty part in this. They painted a pitiful and deliberately provocative picture of him for an entire year and then got all in a outraged, spite-filled huff when he attempted to take some control back. I still have sympathy for him and the position he’s found himself in through no fault of his own, despite his ‘wayward’ ways.
Agree re spit-roasting Morgan. Slowly. And not metaphorically.
Now I agree with you he should have talked it out with them, but I hardly think this is bad for the monarchy as some on here are protesting. Remember Diana had some pretty scathing interviews, Sarah has had some not so flattering quid pro quo tapes, Prince Andrew has his sex slave friend, and the tampon story with Charles and Camilla— come on this is so tame by comparison. I think the monarchy is kind of used to this by now, and this should be a piece of cake in the pr department. I do feel for Meghan, but maybe they can work it out if she wants to. It is up to her. I think if it truly upsets people ignore it. Then he can’t get money for interviews if no one cares.
Oh agree. All a bit of a storm in a teacup in the larger scheme of things.
@noway: +1 with everything you said. I do think Thomas Markle should zip it. But a few things: 1. We don’t know what his relationship with Meghan is at this point or if he even has one; but this can’t be helping and 2. Like it or not, the press is going to keep seeking him out for comments and 3. As ill-advised as Thomas Markle’s tabloid interviews are, I don’t put him on the same level as the two-half siblings who are just flat-out evil, toxic and jealous. By Meghan’s own public accounts, he was a good father to her growing up.
And mark my words, Oprah has her own agenda in spending time with Doria. The difference is, IF Doria does do an interview with Oprah, it will be sanctioned by KP in advance.
I really feel for her, because I know my estranged father would totally pull this sh*t if anything good ever happened to me, too. I live in the U.K. and watched a few minutes of it and it was so boring and dumb and the interviewers were just so REVERENTIAL about the importance of their coup it made me nauseous. It made me really lose respect for his fellow reporter Susannah Reid for tagging along with Piers Morgan’s trashy tabloid style “journalism” so wholeheartedly. Usually she displays a healthy enough dose of distaste and speaks up when he is being especially gross but this was clearly a kiss Markle’s sell out a** all the way set up.
Meghan & her 2 siblings get their attention seeking nature from their dad. Meghan gets her coldness & snobbish attitude from her mum. Her mum seems to have no close family members or friends. I don’t know any mum who would attend their child’s (big) wedding without at least one friend or family representation from her side but she invited Oprah who she hardly knows. It is also unfortunate Harry married someone obsessed with fame & attention seeking & people are now giving her exactly what she wants. All the jobs she’s done are jobs were the attention is on her. It doesn’t matter how much the father earned, he has been abandoned by his kids & grand kids.The step brother & sister have been horrible but she should at least take care & respect her dad. Meghan’s mum is the only one who didn’t speak to the press about her daughter because she knows she is the only one who will benefit financially from her new lifestyle.
As a British citizen living in London, I think it is ridiculous to put the spotlight on one family (RF) & give them so much power. They get the best of everything, they live in a bubble & are out of touch with reality. Everything is done for them, all the pictures of the tours being posted here is a job & they are being paid for it & what they wear is paid for by the govt. Their daily lifestyle is a normal persons holiday. it is ridiculous to keep bowing down to one family as if they are God & it is also ridiculous to start fawning over a woman just because she married a man. Some British people are tired of this old system of monarchy & can’t wait till it is mordernised or abolished but they respect the queen & are waiting for her to retire. This is why the queen at 90+ has cleverly stayed in power & delegates duties to her children & grand children because she knows once she retires, the RF powers & privileges will slowly be taken away. People are still upset with Charles over Diana & William & Harry are not keen royals they just like all the privileges. It is unfair in today’s society to give one family so much power they are just humans like us they are not God. Although some of them try to live semi private lives. Princess Ann refused titles for her kids & I hardly see the queens youngest son. Kate wears clothes from the high street & recycles (repeats) the clothes she wears. Meghan I don’t trust at all, I see through her even though people here don’t see it. I also think why the worshipping of RF annoys me is because I have also lived in other parts of the world where I have met so many members of royal families who live normal & private lives & do normal jobs to earn a living .
I agree the British Monarchy is definitely an outdated institution. They basically provide us with entertainment and gossip and don’t do much else.
However I’m not sure where you get that Meghan is “cold and snobbish.” Have you seen her interacting with people? I’ve watched interviews of her pre-Harry while she was still just an actress on Suits and she always comes across as well-spoken and friendly.
And family dynamics can be very complicated. It is strange Doria doesn’t really keep in touch with anyone in her family but we have no idea of the real story. Families can be so incredibly dysfunctional (as we can see with Meghan’s relatives) and I don’t see why Meghan should have to be responsible for her father when he screwed her over right before her wedding.
I just find it interesting to find these comments keep popping up when Meghan is a biracial (American divorcee but that’s not as important) woman. While Kate got the “Waity Katie” nickname there weren’t these odd comments when she and William got married that she wasn’t “trustworthy” and that she was “attention seeking.” It’s like people are expecting Meghan to stage a coup and become queen herself.
“not trustworthy” + “attention seeking” = someone like her should know/learn her place is what I am guessing these comments are about.
^^^Yes^^^
Amelie, this is the usual sh*t that gets posted online at the tabloid sites (Daily Fail, etc.), royal gossip sites and Tumblr every time news about Meghan comes out. It’s just all lumped into one comment here. I don’t know who or what is responsible for this OP’s beliefs, but it is really f*cked up that she had to drag Doria into her hate-fest.
Agree with you that the BRF is an obsolete and ridiculous institution, and that we as tax payers shouldn’t have to support their ridiculous existence and luxuries.
But you lost me at your evaluation of Meghan (because where are you getting this?) and Kates’s high street clothing (the woman spends hundreds of thousands on designer clothing every year!) lol
Can Kate just be Kate and Meghan just be Meghan? They are both married into a family that lives off the top tier Luxury Dole program that is unavailable to the general public. Now Kate is Miss Thrifty in order to make only married a month Meghan look like her entire wardrobe is haute couture?
They will both get sealed deals with designers and clothing companies because they are like walking adverts for fashion whether we like the looks or not. They will both live pampered lives full of extraordinary perks and they will both cost millions a year to keep in high style and luxury. Kate a lot more because she’s married to the heir and he loves to live a complete royal indulgent experience.
As long as they do their duty and behave gratefully that the public allows this to continue then I guess complaining about the money is useless since they will be doing what is expected of them.
Amelie I partially agree with you, I like her personality in all the interviews she did before & after Harry, she has an outgoing & bubbly personality & I prefer her as a celebrity. But the monarchy is different from celebrity & her outgoing & warm personality confused a lot of us in UK because some of her past friends said once she no longer needed their friendship she was cold towards them. Her step brother & sister have been horrible & annoying, I would understand her coldness & hesitation towards them. The mum is not close to any member of her family as well & couldn’t even invite a best friend to share her joy at the wedding. The snobbishness comes from only associating herself with either rich or A list celebrities. & getting rid of most of her friends before her suits job. She was also associated with some minor celebrities here before Harry but they no longer in contact.
I am glad you mentioned the Bi racial thing because people use that as an excuse. I am part of the black & mixed race British society & one of the the reasons that put me off Meghan is that she tried to use the race card in UK but I noticed only 5% of the people she associates herself with are darker than she is but they claimed she was meant to represent black Britons.. Apart from her mum, Serena Williams & one or 2 others, most of her associates before her new role with Harry are not brown.. And Harry who tried to use the race card with her was not smart enough to notice none of her closest friends look like her.
Clare I know but Kate also wears clothes sold by high street retailers (she started it.) & she also sometimes shops at the supermarket for food. I think she wants to be sen as normal to have a connection with people.
Zapp Brannigan not really, I just don’t personally trust her. But we all have our opinions.
Magnoliarose yes I agree.
Amelie it’s also because Meghan is the only bride to have joined the RF with her own agenda as a feminist for women’s empowerment & as a humanitarian. This also confuses some of us because the RF are not meant to be political or have open views on some subjects they are meant to be neutral. And a feminist & humanitarian would not want to be fully controlled by the RF & also wouldn’t want people bowing or curtsying to them. Kate grew up with the royal family & I never called her any names or watched the wedding. I wasn’t interested but I like Kate now though.
Meghan was already a feminist before she joined the RF and she made her UN speech about female empowerment before she was with Harry. She had no idea she’d be marrying into the BRF at that time in her life. She was political as a celebrity, a lot of them are. I get that you might side eye her for marrying Harry because it might confuse you as to why she would want to marry into such a restrictive family (I know I wouldn’t). But it doesn’t seem the BRF is shying away from the feminist and gender equality, it’s on the official website on Meghan’s profile and mentions all her previous charity work.
As for the “trying to use the race card in the UK,” I believe Meghan mentioned her race in her engagement interview and one article she wrote for Elle in 2015 (before Harry). Please show me where else she “tried to use the race card in the UK.” Not sure when/where she claimed she would represent people of color in the UK? Also not sure why you are pointing out how many people of color she associates with… it’s really weird and doesn’t do anything for your argument.
As for the mom not being close to her family, again you have no idea what is going on behind closed doors.
But you do you I guess. I’m done here!
@moi, I find your comments about race and skin colour so odd. (I am biracial myself as well) and I have never thought to count how many “coloured” friends I have, or whether any of my friends are darker than myself. I don’t seek out friendships based on race. You have some deep-seeded issues that you need to sort through, and some self-reflection is advised.
@Mercy, you have hit the nail on the head. This OP has some serious issues, and envy is the least of them.
TLDR all of it, but what I did read about Doria is royally jacked. Moi, your mother must be/was a real f*cking saint to talk about Meghan’s mother like that.
It’s amazing now they are saying Meghan is using the race card but before it was no one even knew Meghan was biracial she easily passed for white woman . The only friend that said that Meghan left her behind was the child hood who took the side of her ex husband so I don’t where people keeping getting that Meghan leaves her friends behind from because at her wedding she had all her close girlfriends and her former suit castmast their showing their support for her . As for Doria its been said many times on here that Doria was a only child she doesn’t have a close relationship with her half siblings from her dad side and her mother passed away I don’t why people keep bring up Doria relatives not everyone has a big family or are close to Their family in that way there nothing wrong with that .
@Vanessa and Olenna. So so agreed. Doria was absolutely lovely and does not have a large bio family she’s closed to. It happens.
We actually have no idea if a friend of her’s attended the wedding with and just didn’t want his/her face splashed across international media, which, same. And the friend thing always vexed me. Meghan cut off one toxic person she outgrew, and she cut her off for good reason as she sold her out. She had quite a few long-term friends (Javinka, the Litts, etc.) present and prominent at her wedding and some of whom happened to be actors which as that was her job for her adult life is perfectly reasonable.
I’m a hair older than Meghan and I probably wouldn’t have any childhood friends at my wedding because I moved away from home but I would have several long term friends, 15+ year, because that’s life!
And as for the non-existent race card that is seemingly only ever trotted out by racists, Meghan could have passed. She could have. I look at her and see clearly that she is not just white but I bet most (white) people wouldn’t and she’d probably have gotten more work by pretending to be all white instead of being proudly biracial.
I’m just disgusted. The bar for Meghan just keeps getting raised higher and higher and she clears every hurdle but people still find something to nitpick.
When someone says race card then they are racists. I stop listening when someone trots that out. If moi is biracial then she or he needs therapy.
Moi, your comments were very interesting… I understand your views about the BRF…some of what you wrote I am in total agreement. I, however, take exception with these parts of your critique:
” All the jobs she’s done are jobs were the attention is on her.”
Well, isn’t that the role of the BRF??? They show up to draw ‘attention’ to the event etc…Don’t the reporters & photographers & supporters etc. show up to catch a quote/speech/glimpse of the said royal???Don’t these appearance yield revenue & advertisement for the ‘activity/town/United Kingdom etc’???
“It doesn’t matter how much the father earned, he has been abandoned by his kids & grand kids.”
Maybe Tom’s abandonment has more to do with Tom Sr.’s behaviour towards his kids & grandkids??? Didn’t Tom say that he prefers to live alone etc. ??? Why is Meghan being blamed for Tom’s failure as a father & grandfather to his kids???
“The step brother & sister have been horrible but she should at least take care & respect her dad.”
Meghan has never said or done anything that shows that she has disrespected Tom. Meghan (& Harry) actually fought (both publicly & privately) for Tom’s privacy while Tom was ‘feeding’ information to his relatives & friends, who in turn leaked to the public (often times for financial gain)… Ironically Tom has shown disrespect to his daughter (whom he has profited from)…
“Meghan’s mum is the only one who didn’t speak to the press about her daughter because she knows she is the only one who will benefit financially from her new lifestyle.”
Do you personally know Doria? Do you have proof of this statement/accusation??? I know witnessing the vile Markles must have led you to assume that Doria Ragland has nefarious intentions… I mean every mother (including my own & myself) must aspire to “be taken care of” by our kids/grandkids…really????
“Princess Ann refused titles for her kids & I hardly see the queens youngest son.”
I agree that Princess Anne refused titles for her offspring but her kids & grandkids are still in the line of succession … I’m shocked that you don’t see Edward, but he & his lovely wife are hard workers, who travel throughout the UK, the Commonwealth & the world in their roles as royals…
Oprah was invited by Meghan and Harry, not Doria.
Moi, I just saw your other replies…
“Meghan is that she tried to use the race card in UK but I noticed only 5% of the people she associates herself with are darker than she is but they claimed she was meant to represent black Britons.. ”
I’m confused when did Meghan ever use the race card??? When did she say that she represented black Britons??? The last time I checked isn’t Meghan an American citizen (an immigrant) who has identified herself as biracial (to show her respect to Tom & Doria)???
“Apart from her mum, Serena Williams & one or 2 others, most of her associates before her new role with Harry are not brown.. ”
I take exception to this statement…do you know all of her associates??? Why is the colour of their skin a concern??? I value each of my relatives, friends & colleagues not because of their colour/race …colour/race has nothing to do with our friendship or relationship or lack of…
“And Harry who tried to use the race card with her was not smart enough to notice none of her closest friends look like her.”
Harry was addressing the racism Meghan experienced & continues to experience…shouldn’t he acknowledge & challenge racism? Moi, I have a secret…I don’t look like any of my friends either…Actually I look like me…& I’m sure you look like you…
Mercy I’m not going to be rude to anyone here because they have a different opinion to mine we’re all entitled to it. How I noticed she only makes friends with a particular group of people is because the way she presented herself & the people she associates with made me think she was Latino, Turkish, Spanish, Italian etc. I never knew she was mixed race till I saw her hair in childhood pictures & her mum. And why I got interested in it is because they (the UK press) said she would represent ethnic minorities in UK. But some of us wondered how she would represent us if she personally does not make friends with people like us. Normally nobody would care who your friends are or what they look like but when you put yourself in that position & claim to represent people, they would ask questions. I’ve got no deep rooted issues & I’m not here to insult anyone because they have a different opinion to mine.
Lady D Oprah was invited by Doria. Oprah also said she doesn’t know the couple
Amelie I agree with you we see things differently & I accept your view & opinion. I have discussed the race issue above. I only got interested in the Meghan /Harry topic because of how the UK press reported some of their stories. I also live in UK so the press reports & views would be different.than the US reports & the experience & expectations here would be viewed differently than in other countries.
And to everyone else – Everything I stated here is from UK & I don’t know what is reported in US. So I apologise to everyone here for any confusion maybe I shouldn’t have commented on a US blog as some things are viewed differently. I think I have a different view because it is on my doorstep. I still stand by my views & observations (based on UK reports) but I respect all other opinions too. I also think royalty is seen differently in US than Europe. I wonder why US has no royals because you guys love it.
@Moi, the stuff you said was ALL BS in my opinion, but especially the stuff about Doria. Lord, save me from people who think you’re snobby if you don’t have a lot of family around you.
Doria and Meghan were clearly close with Doria’s mother and her mother’s sister, both of whom are DEAD now. (There are pictures of Doria and Meghan with Doria’s mother and aunt).
I really hate this line of thinking that because Doria isn’t close to maybe some extended members of her family that something is wrong or she and Meghan are snobs. WFT? Guess what, not all families are the same and sometimes, you are just close to who you are close to and when those people die, you don’t have as many people around anymore. Because if I was in Meghan’s place the only people from my family who would be there are my mom and half-sister on my dad’s side who lives in another state from my mom and I. (My father being dead). Just because you’re related to me by blood (and share my skin color) doesn’t mean you automatically get an invite.
We Americans don’t put so much stock in blood ties if the person you are related to by blood doesn’t actually ACT like family to you. Hell, we will cut you off sometimes just for your political opinions if fact. (A LOT of family ties were broken in the US after the last Presidential Election).
Meghan wrote about her race and what it meant long before she met Harry. The fact that you only looked at surface things (who her friends are, what family was at the wedding) shows you don’t actually know anything about Meghan beyond such surface things. Maybe try and do some research about the woman before forming such ill-informed opinions. Being in the UK isn’t an excuse, when things like Google and Youtube exist.
And BTW: no, not all Americans love or are even remotely interested in the royals and royal family. The majority of us could care less, or haven’t cared since Diana died. The interest mostly lies with William and Harry (Diana’s sons), and now with Meghan because *gasp* she’s American. So of course a lot of us were looking up/know info about her.
Not to be unkind, but Mr. Markle seems a little simple to me. I think most people know that something’s not quite right and don’t consider him credible. If the palace just rises above it and goes about their business, that’s all they need to do. Ignore, ignore, ignore.
What part wasn’t credible? That Meghan is smart or Harry a gentleman and nice, that Meghan will do a great job? He said nothing bad, he just got paid. Granted that is bad, but doesn’t change the content of the interview. I agree they should ignore it, because I’m not sure how you would rebutt it.
I don’t get why anyone is riled up about this. No big deal!
What I want to know is why does Thomas care so much about what the general public thinks about him why does he feel the need to explain his actions so much to the general public. That the problem he more concern about how he is perceived to public then doing what his daughter and new son in law asked him to do which please don’t talk to the press about them or anything else . As for the people who are some how trying to put the blame on Meghan or palace Thomas is grown men who is actively choosing to speak to the press and also accepting money to speak about his daughter . If this was Doria speak about her daughter and accepting money for the press people would be going all in on her Doria has been a classy act for day one yet there people still trashing her calling it her snobbish and questions why she has no family relatives around her more as if there something wrong with her .
Well wait now. Thomas Markle lived through a year of outrageous hounding and baiting by elements of the media without saying a single word. They followed him around, they portrayed him as a sad recluse, a drunk, a weirdo, they took the most unflattering pics of him and flung them across their pages, all for no purpose other than to sneer at and belittle him and the woman, his daughter, who was marrying into the brf. There he was, minding his own business, living his quiet life, doing no harm to anyone and then this monster turned up overnight on his doorstep and basically effed that quiet, unassuming life up.
Is that not a good enough reason for you?
My point is that Doria has been portray by the media far more Unflattering then Thomas and the wild accusations against her has not stop but she has remained quiet living her life . Why can’t Thomas do the same ignored the press live his life he doesn’t own the public anything if he would just accept help from the get go from Meghan and Harry went about his businesses the press would have left him alone like their doing with Doria she doesn’t have cameras following Thomas invited the press into his space the moment he set up those pictures and keeps doing pay interviews he couldn’t have just kept quiet the press would have move on already . And once again why does what the public think him matters so much why is he so concerned with public opinion
@ Skylark, agree
@Vanessa – And my point is that people, being individuals, will react in different ways when they’re put under such intense and nasty pressure.
Doria’s way is a credit to her and her strength and her refusal to respond to the yapping, provocative noise. But Thomas Markle’s way shouldn’t be seen as weak or shameful or something to beat him over the head with, which is exactly what you’re doing.
Why are you more outraged with him for failing to meet your ‘under pressure’ standards than you are with the disgusting media intrusion that forced his hand?
That “not saying a single word” kind of lost its meaning when he had a total public meltdown and told his daughter through tabloids that he wasn’t going to attend her wedding.
Skylark, at this point, because he’s now colluded with the media, Thomas Markle is no better. Most people would not expect media to have any shame or sense of loyalty, but one would certainly expect it from ones own father. That’s the difference and it’s a huge difference.
In my opinion, Thomas Markle has been colluding with his awful oldest children this entire time. Now that no one is paying any more attention to Samantha the old man goes center stage. Sure his delivery is different but he’s still doing what Meghan has begged him not to.
How does he not realize that the only interest the media has in him is to use him to hurt his own daughter?
As a radio show in my area says : “Here’s all I need to know . . .” about Piers Morgan – he’s a Trump supporter. Nuff said!
As long as TM keeps saturating the market with his ham face and lies, we will keep caring less and less. At this point, the Markles aren’t even interesting enough to play the villain; they continuously set themselves up as the punchline.
@ skylar I’m not outrage at Thomas I’m just saying that if Doria has way found to ignore the press Thomas should be able to the same I don’t think Thomas is weak I think he a self center man who is more concerned with how he looks to the public The photo debacle has faded from the public memory he didn’t need to set the record straight again people moved on for that . Were willing to forgive and forget everytime thomas speaks to the press it invites the circus that Thomas so desperately want to leave him alone .
In the meantime Piers Morgan interviews Diana’s ex butler this morning on tv to ask why the estrangement what’s it all about? Answer someone’s thrown a boulder into the pond and it’s rippling outwards or words to that affect
omg, literally ALL these people (the Markles) had to do was fucking keep their mouths shut and if they needed help, I’m sure Meghan would have helped them. They simply cannot stop screwing themselves and I DON’T GET IT.
Samantha, is that you?
IMO this is also about the RR trying to get Palace access via the Markles. That’s why some of the RR seems so desperate to get Tom Jr. and Samantha invites to the wedding by interviewing them (PAID interviews BTW) all the time, and some even writing articles that Meghan should/had to invite them, and all the people – mostly RR on twitter – who keep/kept saying “should have brought them in/bring them in.” It’s becoming clearer to me that a lot of Royal Reporters actually don’t have the inside access they claim to have and, if they do, they are not out there writing for the Mirror, The Sun or the Daily Fail. What those that DO write for those places ARE writing is a bunch of fanfiction, with a hint of stuff that may have been true a long time ago, but isn’t really so now.
Maybe they are accurate is some things when it comes to Will and Kate, but I think that has more to do with the Middletons giving them info and access. When it comes to Harry and Meghan OTOH, they have been wrong way more times than right.
But if the Markles could get invites, then of course Tom Jr. and Samantha would be elevated to “insider” status, even if Meghan and Harry never invited them to anything else or ever really spoke to them again.
However, Tom Jr. and Samantha weren’t invited, no matter how hard the tabloids pushed for them to be. So now Tom Sr. is now the last recourse. Because he WAS invited, but then didn’t go. And Harry and Meghan DID actually talk to him on the phone I bet. And so the whole “help him/bring him in” talk has begun again from them for Sr. (Starting with Piers Morgan).
However, with this move and with any other interviews Tom Sr. gives where he’s paid (because he WILL be paid every time, make no mistake about that), they’ve made it very easy for Meghan and Harry to cut him off. And it will soon become apparent that Tom Sr. DOESN’T have any access or real info . I say that’ll happen around the time Meghan has their first kid. Doria will be right there in any christening photos that are released. Tom Sr. will not. And that will be the end.
So Tom Sr., with Samantha’s help, will squeeze any remaining money they can from the British Tabloid Press (they will NEVER get any money from the Royal Family, you can bet on that), and the press will be desperate to get Sr. in there any way they can, which will fail in the end, just like it did with Tom Jr. and Samantha. And so they will STILL have no real access to Harry and Meghan, and the Markle clan will be thrown out for good by the tabolids at that point. I give this all about 2 1/2 years more before it goes down like this.
ha ha ha, “she is a very smart girl and knows who to marry” yeah I bet she does!! How hard can that decision be? ummm, to never have to pick up a spoon or clean a toilet ever again. My question is what is wrong with her vindictive, evil, sour, bitter, nasty, back stabbing sister? How was that woman brought up? If sister maybe wanted to be included in the royals, she just burned her chances for being an envious miserable family member. Its her sister!!