Thomas Markle continues to sell out his daughter and beg her for access

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The evergreen headline seems to be “Thomas Markle continues to sell out his daughter.” Operative word: SELL. We still don’t know how much money Thomas Markle has accumulated from all of his various tacky sellouts, but I still think he’s easily made several hundred thousand dollars off of Meghan. It seems like he’s signed on to sell out his daughter on a regular basis now too, because The Sun has a series of “exclusives” with Thomas Markle, and he sold childhood photos of Meghan to The Sun too. What’s interesting is that he continues to make it clear that he hasn’t been in contact with Meghan in months, since all of the bulls–t ahead of her wedding. He’s a narcissist and one of the most toxic individuals I’ve ever come across, and I have to believe that at some point, hopefully very soon, the British tabloids will be done with this. He has no access: Meghan has cut him off. Anyway, if you enjoy wincing repeatedly and getting angry at a toxic narcissist with no shame, here are some highlights from his new interviews:

He thinks Meghan is terrified: “My thing about my daughter right now is that I think she is terrified. I see it in her eyes, I see it in her face and I see it in her smile. I’ve seen her smile for years. I know her smile. I don’t like the one I’m seeing now. This one isn’t even a stage smile – this is a pained smile. That might be just having a couple of bad days. I don’t know. It really worries me. I think she’s under too much pressure. There’s a high price to pay to be married to that family.”

Profiting off his daughter: “The reason I am being shunned is because I made a profit on the staged pictures. Anyone who makes a profit off the Royal Family becomes shunned. But I could have made well over $100,000 by just doing a talk show. So if I moved to London and started selling cups with my daughter’s face on, would they shun me? The Royal Family is living by rules that are outdated. Half of Great Britain seems to make a fortune selling pictures of my daughter and her husband. Are they shunned? Does this make any sense to you or anyone else? I don’t get it. I have already apologised to the Royal Family. I honestly think that if the Queen took the time to think that she would not see me because I did some stupid photographs, that is ridiculous.

He’s begging her for access: “I had a heart attack, doesn’t anybody care? I could actually die soon. Does she want this to be the last thing we’ve said to each other? It is probably the longest time I have gone without speaking to her ever. I just want to clear the air and tell her how proud I am of her. If I had one message for her it would be that I’m sorry for anything that went wrong. I’d like to put our differences behind us and get together. I miss you very much.”

Again about how he hasn’t spoken to her since the wedding: “I spoke to Meghan and Harry briefly after the wedding. It was mostly me and Meghan. They were talking about coming to visit me. I spoke to them both and wished them a happy honeymoon. That was the last call. The phone number I had been calling Meghan on is no longer picking up. And I don’t have an address for her. I can send something to the palace, but there is no guarantee it would get to her. I sent a text to my palace contact saying I would like to reach my daughter and got no reply. Being shunned for the rest of my life? That’s not going to ­happen.”

[From The Sun & The Sun]

If I could say anything to Meghan at this point, it would be this: “I’m sorry your father is such a dumpster fire, but you’re absolutely doing the right thing by cutting him out of your life.” It’s difficult, for sure. People who have healthy relationships with their parents probably don’t understand how someone can have such dysfunction in their immediate family. But parents can be toxic too, and Thomas Markle is one of the worst motherf–kers I’ve ever come across. It’s probably Meghan’s hope and the palace’s hope that Thomas just punches himself out and that media outlets will get bored with him when they realize that he has zero access.

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  1. Dietcokehead says:

    What did he think was going to happen? That he could throw her under the bus and nearly ruin what was supposed to be a very happy time for her in exchange for heaps of cash, then ask for forgiveness and all would be well? Sorry, life doesn’t work that way. You, sir, are in circumstances of your own making.

    • Jan90067 says:

      In another article yesterday, he was saying that he NEEDS her to take care of him, that it’s basically HER obligation to do so. That, and he is thinking in the next few months, he’s just going to get on a plane and go over there and force a meeting. Not only with Meg, but he reiterated that HE wants and expects to meet THE QUEEN. THE CHUTZPAH!!! lol.

      Oh, and he’ll be sure to stay in a hotel AT FIRST. Like, he expects to walk up to KP and just be let in? The arrogant narcissism in him just beggars belief!

      I just feel so badly for Meghan. Each new article from this a$$wipe must be like a knife in the heart. What parent who claims to love their child does this???

      • Lunde says:

        He is behaving like a petulant child stamping his feet. he thought his actions would make money and gain him insider RF access that he could sell but instead being a disloyal blabbermouth has bagged him a one way trip to RF Siberia!

        Will he need a visa. work permit and health insurance to visit the UK?- after all he has made it clear that he would not be coming over for a family visit but as part of a money making venture to sell to the tabloids.

      • Peg says:

        No he don’t need a Visa to visit, work permit for what, he is retired, don’t need one to run his mouth to tabloids.

      • Lunde says:

        But if he comes on a paid for trip by the tabloids where he is paid for his interviews does that become work? It is earned income -no?

        My neice’s US boyfriend was deported from the UK because he planned to do some unpaid volunteer work during his stay.

      • Beatrix says:

        Right!? I love how he keeps bringing up the Queen, as if! The Queen has nothing to do with any of this other than having her people work to try to diffuse whatever this situation is with Meghan’s father. What in holy hell would this man ever have to say to the Queen that wouldn’t embarrass his daughter and son in law? Narcissism to the core.

      • Lilly says:

        I can see the video and photos now of him at the gates of Buckingham Palace crying for his daughter to come out… probably asking for the Queen too. They (dad and tabloids) haven’t finished milking this dry. The thing that made me really mad is saying he could die soon, such a toxic man.

      • Cali says:

        @Jan90067 YES, I read this yesterday and ran here to see if it was posted yet. He is a sick MF’er who does Not love his daughter at all! Actually trying to put a guilt trip on her after lying on Harry and continuously selling her out! The BEST thing he did for her was to stand her up for her wedding! Thank goodness this piece of trash played sick and had fast food the next day. This will be a good-clean cut from that entire dumpster side of the fam, she can move on now. I feel so sad for Meghan though :-( he’s actually trying to humiliate her SMFH.

      • PodyPo says:

        One who is being egged on by Piers Morgan? I do believe Markle is an opportunist at best and a narcissist at worst, but I think Morgan has more to gain than Markle from this.

      • Ardnamurchan says:

        It wasn’t the photos. They rang and urged him to come to the wedding after the payment was exposed. They spoke to him after the wedding, too.
        But then this toxic, gaslighting parent gave a tv interview, admitting they begged him not to speak to the press then went right ahead and reported an alleged private conversation on two sensitive international political subjects: Trump and Brexit.
        He gaslights this into being punished for selling the set-up photos.
        No. How can they speak to him, knowing their words, and probably an embroidered version of them, will be headlines within the week?
        Note how, as narcissists do, Markle begs to patch up,their ‘differences’, as though Meghan is somehow at fault.
        Note how he utters not a word of genuine apology for what he knows he’s done wrong.
        Note ‘I don’t care if she doesn’t want to see me’.- he’s thinking of flying to London to insist she does.
        This is the truest thing he’s uttered:he doesn’t care.
        At least there’s this: people from normal loving families are getting an insight into what it’s like to have a narcissist for a parent, and how they’re more than happy to destroy every shred of happiness in their children’s lives.

    • Original Jenns says:

      I don’t think he’s asking for forgiveness, which is the worst part. He’s sorry for anything that went wrong (not what he did). He wants to put their differences behind them. Basically putting it on both of them, or at least not on himself. He’s blaming everyone else for the consequences of his behavior. He’s not apologizing.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      That third paragraph, omg.

      • SympathyRage says:

        Can’t even read it. Blunt talk: It is time for him to check out. He doesn’t need to be here anymore. No one this grotesquely shameless and selfish deserves anoher breath. He serves no purpose and his life has no value. Sick of pretending like this kind of person matters.

      • lobbit says:

        @SympathyRage, Is this sarcasm? It’s awful. I mean, he’s awful as well but wishing him death is next level awful.

      • Jamie says:

        I felt a knot in my stomach reading that 3rd paragraph. I recognized it immediately.
        That’s the way my mother was. When she didn’t get her way, she claimed to have all sorts of illnesses – and say that she was dying – in order to get sympathy and to get her way. I used to get into a cycle with her where I would feel guilty for making my mom upset and worried that she was really dying and then apologize, even if I wasn’t the one who was wrong.
        Eventually, I realized that she would say anything to get her way; this was a toxic relationship and that I needed to cut my mom out of my life, which was hard to do. Like Kaiser said above, people with normal parents don’t understand why you would need to cut yours out of you life.
        But I did it and I’m so glad I did. My life is so much better without that toxicity.

        (Sorry for the rant. That paragraph from Markle really got to me.)

      • Zoid says:

        Completely with you, Jamie! My father is the exact same as Markle as well. I stopped speaking to him last year and just get emails about “what has he done to deserve such treatment” and his “failing health” (he’s played THAT card before!). My blessing is that I am not a person of interest like Markle. Silver linings! People with healthy parental relationships make it difficult though. I hope Harry is supportive of her in all this, it gets exhausting to be hold how selfish YOU are to not speak to a toxic person.

      • Snazzy says:

        Jamie and Zoid, my mother is exactly like that as well! there’s always something, just for attention. I haven’t cut her off completely, but limited contact, and on my terms. And you are right, the pressure that people who have healthy parental relationships put on you to stay in touch with these toxic people is incredible. They just don’t understand how much pain they cause you, because they don’t have to go through it. I have yelled and sworn at family members telling them to stay out of it lest I cut them all off. In the end I have cut many off, again not completely, but enough so they get the point. But, I’m not rich and famous like MM. If I was, for sure they’d be out there, just like that poor woman’s dad. She made the right choice!

      • minx says:

        I also got a knot in my stomach from reading TM’s nonsense. I have dealt with people like this many times, not pleasant.

      • PodyPo says:

        SympathyRage that’s disgusting

    • Eleonor says:

      Isn’t it?
      This is why I never judge people who cut their relatives off their lives: usually there are good reasons.

  2. BlueSky says:

    I see he is continuing to take a page from the “Bill Hudson guide to emotionally blackmailing your daughter to the press in the hopes you will embarrass her enough to reach out to you”

    • Lunde says:

      He is such a disgusting blackmailer. In the DM today he is threatening to travel to the UK and show up at her door (presumably with TMZ or Piers Morgan in tow) “whether invited or not”. It shows that his main objective is to humiliate her. I hope that the RF can pull strings to have his visa refused.

      • MissM says:

        I read yesterday that the reason why he and Samantha were upset that Meghan didn’t call him on fathers day was because he was holed up in a hotel room with some journalist waiting for her call that never came. It was a sting operation that they planned to record and release. If that’s true, hes even worse then I thought. Surely the palace caught wind of it and alerted Meghan who decided not to call him. I feel so sorry for Meghan. If theres one person you should be able to count on, its your father.

    • Ardnamurchan says:

      The malaevolence of this man; his desire to hurt and humiliate his daughter wafts off the page, smelling of sulphur.
      It’s sick-making.
      That poor woman.

  3. Digital Unicorn says:

    Right on track he’s using the ‘am gonna die soon’ for attention and threading to turn up on her doorstep. Now we see where the other 2 kids get the vile attitude from.

    She can’t give into him as he will sell it to the press. He’s made it clear that he doesn’t care how upset she is he wants his photo op with The Queen. That is all he cares about. He’s not sorry for what he’s done, only that he was exposed for what he is.

    Am calling that if he follow through on his threat it will be with a camera crew in tow complete with him c ting at the gates of KP. He will milk this for all he can.

    He must have fallen out with the Fail as he’s now giving exclusive to the Sun.

    The only way he will shut up is if the tabs turn on him and print the receipts for his alleged health scare.

    • harla says:

      I agree Digital Unicorn!! All he wants is to meet the Queen and of course some access to Meg so he can continue to make a profit off of her.

    • Jan90067 says:

      Sounds very Trumpian, doesn’t he: All he really wants is that photo op with TQ.

    • magnoliarose says:

      Didn’t we predict a health threat? Right out of the toxic narcissistic parent handbook. “Poor me My healf is bad so I should get to be a terrible emotionally abusive parent and still get everything I want.”

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Yep and am sure he’ll fake a heart attack to milk the hospital visit for all its worth, this time i want to see photos of him in a hospital bed. He admitted that he was holed up in a hotel watching the wedding, NOT from a hospital bed as TMZ reported.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        I feel unbelievably stupid for continuously sticking up for this man. Kaiser’s right…….I had a normal, loving father, so even now, I’m really struggling……..I can’t grasp his behavior…..I keep thinking SURELY, he doesn’t understand the damage he’s doing………she just needs to explain it to him and then he’ll get it and back off.

        For goodness sake, what does he hope to achieve? It can’t be to just embarrass her….what good is that to him?

        (Dazed and confused observer)

      • Bella DuPont says:

        Also, I’m struck by how similar in tone this message is to the ones her brother sent to her right before he sent the really nasty, abusive one.

      • magnoliarose says:

        I have a great loving father too. I don’t have men in my family who act like this but I have a very close friend whose father DOES act like this. If I had never seen it up close it would have been hard for me to get it too. My friend has been devastated and abused emotionally by her father over and over until she finally cut ties. They are so confusing and abnormal and good at what they do that it takes time to understand. There were times back when we were younger I wasn’t as supportive and believed her father’s act. Who acts like that? Right?

        You just tried to be compassionate that is all. Narcissists count on that so they can use us as proxies to back them up. Hence the health scare shenanigans. They look for victim attention to guilt and shame their targeted child. Like I said about my friend’s father: He pretended to have near fatal brain damage from his tumble down the imaginary historically long stone staircase in Italy while her mother was battling cancer. Deep down she knew from the beginning it was a stunt but she still tried to believe him. Even after he had been horrible all her life.
        They fool a lot of people deftly.

      • Bella DuPont says:


        Thanks for your explanation.

        The whole thing is so incredibly ugly and getting uglier by the day. I guess we’ll find out more as time goes on. My only hope is that this man doesn’t selfishly die in the near future, because that will be another decade of defending her from people claiming that she caused his death.


        PS: On the other hand, thank God the Daily Beast has started to see sense and is now taking a hard line in her defence. I am an even bigger fan of theirs now.

      • magnoliarose says:

        You are welcome BellaDP.

    • Christin says:

      His health excuses are quite convenient. He gets busted for staged pap photos and claims stress/heart attack. Now he wants sympathy for said heart attack, yet is ready to travel thousands of miles.

      Once this stunt backfires, wait on the next medical drama. He can claim any health crisis and not be called out due to privacy laws. Unless the tabloids turn on him, of course.

  4. KNy says:

    I wonder if he has zero insight into the fact that he is continuing to make her life harder, or if he just doesn’t care and wants to make as much money as possible. There seems to be a lot of justifying going on: “Half of Britain makes money off of my daughter’s face, why shouldn’t I?” and then pseudo-concern: “I think she’s terrified. She’s under too much pressure.”

    Then he ends with a threat: “Being shunned for the rest of my life? That’s not going to happen.” Hey now. This guy is toxic.

    ETA: Not sure if it was covered here but I read something (while I was on a plane so I have no idea where) that the whole Father’s Day shaming of Meghan with hopes that she would call were accompanied by a news outlet ready to record (with Thomas’ permission) the entire convo. From that guy, I would buy it.

    • KNy says:

      Replying to myself but I just caught this: “If I had one message for her it would be that I’m sorry for anything that went wrong. I’d like to put our differences behind us and get together. I miss you very much.”

      He’s sorry for *anything that went wrong.* He’s not taking responsibility for his actions. He’s not sorry for *what he did.* Have any of y’all ever seen an episode of Hoarders where the hoarder will be like, “It just built up and built up.” Like, no, *you* put it there. And he’d like to put their differences behind them – he’s owning NOTHING of this.

    • IlsaLund says:

      I read that also. That the sister’s ranting about Meghan calling to wish Thomas a happy Father’s Day was just part of a ruse to record the conversation. Apparently Piers Morgan had arranged for the audio recording of the conversation and it would have been played on Pier’s morning show.

      Also, I think Thomas fired a shot about “wanting a relationship with his grandchildren” when the times comes. I don’t think these people are going to go away quietly.

      • DizzyLizzy says:

        Lol – he can whistle for access to any members of the RF or any future grandchildren. He is so unhinged that he will likely never get within 200 yards of KP.

        I can just see RF family Lawyers preparing the cease and desist orders as we speak.

        This man is a loon and his foolwangery is being fed to near manical levels by his filter feeder daughter Samantha. Though he is by no means innocent. They are a co-dependent mess using each other as flying monkeys and doing the others bidding when it suits.

        The truth is slowly outing. Tom Sykes of the Daily Beast has done a fantastic beast examining the dysfunction of the toxic trinity and has left no stone unturned. I urge you all to read it (not sure if I can post links here).

      • Olenna says:

        I agree. Tom Sykes said, “Threatening your children with your own death? It doesn’t get much lower than that”. I think he is wrong. The Markles (yes, I believe this is a team effort) will go as low and to any lengths, no matter how poorly it reflects on these thick-skinned grifters, to force Meghan’s hand and a response from KP. But, KP should take anything he says that even hints as a threat and use it to their advantage (and evidence) if he tries to get anywhere Meghan or the BRF.

      • DizzyLizzy says:

        Thanks Jan90067 was not sure if we’re allowed to post links but yes that is the article I was referring to.

      • magnoliarose says:

        That was a must read link and it says exactly what we have been saying about this despicable creature from the beginning.
        I also like the part about him witnessing Harry and Meghan’s love for each other first hand. And how the British press is behaving shamefully.

    • A says:

      “Being shunned for the rest of my life? That’s not going to happen.”

      This is horrible. He’s not going away any time soon and he’ll do whatever it takes to get attention.

      • Enn says:

        That was what really got me. He’s threatening her, just like a classic emotional abuser.

        Meghan is doing the right thing. I cut my father off many years ago and people don’t understand how I could have done it, but it was like a huge weight was lifted off my shoulders. Enjoy your new life, Meg! You don’t need his BS.

      • Jan90067 says:

        Kind of makes you realize why Doria separated from him so soon after marrying him (wasn’t Meg two when they divorced?). Emotional blackmailer, narcissist…. Also makes you well aware of the reason why he never stopped the older two when they were spouting off.

        They’re both well done of him.

      • morrigan01 says:

        @Jan90067 Meghan was 2 years old when Doria and Tom Sr. separated, and six when they officially got divorced.

        And I’ll bet anything they only got divorced so late because California divorce laws (where they got married) make it so everything is split 50-50 in the divorce. I’ve seen some talk that Tom Sr. had to be forced to pay child support, and even hid his lotto winnings from Doria and had his brother claim them for him so that Doria wouldn’t get any of the money.

      • magnoliarose says:

        I believe it morrigan.
        It is rare that a couple divorces amicably when their first child is a baby. There is usually a big reason and it usually isn’t very pleasant.
        Adding in the other details we know now I figure it must have been bad. His other children have gone through years of not speaking to him. He is clearly emotionally and mentally abusive so who knows how awful he truly is.

      • DizzyLizzy says:

        @magnoliarose – If you listen to how TM speaks about Meghan its quite disturbing. He oscillates between idolising her and devaluing her to object status (typical Narc behaviour).

        I suspect the war between the siblings is a result of hims triangulating everyone around him. Samantha is very unstable but most borderlines are made and not born, especially when they have a father as far up the NPD spectrum at TM.

        He has likely manipulated his children as his flying Monkees their whole life even against Doria and his ex -wife whom both Tom Jnr and Sammy are estranged from. They are also both estranged from their own children, likely as a result of their personality disorders.

      • magnoliarose says:

        That is very disturbing. I hadn’t connected it like you did. He talks about her like she’s not a person with feelings. Only an extension of him.
        I have so much sympathy for people who have endured parents like this. He is just so awful.

    • SlightlyAnonny says:

      I read the same and it was chilling in its plausibility. I bet that MM had always made a point of contacting him on Father’s Day whatever the strain on their relationship and he took it as a guaranteed opportunity to cash in. He is scum.

  5. Lana says:

    Not “begging for access”, more like blackmailing her. Like “ I’m gonna trash talk you to the press and embarrass you as much as I can until you call me”

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      I think the press will tire of him quickly. He’ll get nowhere with the BRF, especially with this tactic.

      • DizzyLizzy says:

        He’s already been dropped by TMZ, GMB, Piers, Mirror and DailyMail because he can’t provide the goods, hence the desperation to emotionally bully Meghan.

        The Sun will also eventually tire of him when they realise they are paying a lot of money for little in return.

        The fact he is selling childhood pictures and not teenage ones should give you an indication of when he really stopped having a full relationship with Meghan.

        I suspect as she became an adult she began to realise how toxic and embarrassing her family were.

      • magnoliarose says:

        This is why he should keep exposing himself. He is finally being unmasked as the calculating garbage person that he is.

      • Cali says:

        @DizzyLizzy That is GREAT news to hear and the fact that he is proving himself to be an abuser and user of his daughter is thankfully turning everyone off…even Piers so that’s a bad sign for his future income. And the childhood pics are a great point, he was an absentee father who was given the chance of a lifetime to reunite with his daughter and he showed his true colors. But, the fact that he didn’t shut down his trash daughter Sam was a bad sign from the start.

  6. Emma says:

    What an absolute piece of trash.

    He’s no real dad in the true meaning of the word, and clearly he has no deep love for his daughter. No loving father would ever humiliate and betray his own child in this manner.

    I’m glad to hear Meghan has changed her number and there’s no line of communication. That’s the only way to go with these kind of people. Block and ignore. She knows that if she communicates with him, their private conversation will have been sold to TMZ by the time she has hung up the phone.

    • C. Remm says:

      It is rumoured that the press was with Thomas Markle on fathers day and they had everyting set up to record the telephone conversation in case Meghan calls. That could also be the reason why her half sister harassed in the days prior to the father day to call her dad. They intended to run the tape in the Breakfast Show of Piers Morgan.

  7. Anna nuttall says:

    In the press this morning, he’s saying he going to fly over to the UK and demand to see her at Buckingham Palace. Umm – she doesn’t live there. It Kensington Palace.
    What is he going to do? Walk up to Buckingham Palace and bang on the gate and demand he see her. They will arrest him and make a bigger fool of him.
    Also claiming she has fear in her eyes – all I can see is love in her eyes. Don’t know about anyone else.
    God! I feel for Meghan.

  8. Jess says:

    This man is truly vile. Threatening your child publicly for attention? He will NEVER see this woman again. Hope he chokes on images of Doris holding their future grandchildren.

    • DizzyLizzy says:

      Lol – so true. I can’t wait for M&H to have their first child and to see the Queen sitting next to Meghan and Doria on either side with infant beaming in the traditional outfit. Harry casually standing by his wife’s side and flanked by the rest of the Wales clan.

      He will be trying to sell a lot of stories that day – lol

  9. cannibell says:

    “I think she is terrified” against the thousands of photos showing her as radiant and happy pretty much sums up the disconnect. His act is tired, his 15 minutes ended hours and hours ago and he needs to crawl back under the bridge with his other children.

  10. magdalene says:

    I can’t ever stop talking about white privilege. The UK tabloids had a fit when they found out Doria is black and had dreadlocks, insinuated she must be ghetto and how Harry will have tea in gun and drug infested place, but the white father was described as a successful recluse.

    If Doria did a tenth of Thomas Markle has done, the UK tabloid would crucify her on a daily basis but because he is a white dude, he is being paid on a regular basis to dump on his daughter and make her life harder than it already was. The media still write sympathetic pieces on this nasty, vile excuse of a man and trying to shame Meghan into having a relationship with him. None of them has asked how he can’t shut up and be private like his ex wife.

    Can anyone see the media being this lenient with the Meghan’s black side of the family? Thank God that her mom has kept it quiet and classy.

    • kate says:

      Oh yeah, whiteness is one hell of adrug, as Deray would say. Doria would never get away with half of that sh*t.

    • Always Lurking says:

      Thomas Markle and his children are the true definition of ‘white trash’. He is clearly siding with his racist older children, the racist UK tabloid media. That’s betrayal and disgusting. It may sound harsh, but I do hope he disappears from the face of the earth very soon.

      I really admire Meghan, what a strong woman! She knows the Markle side of the family is pure trash and kicked them out of her life years ago. Thank God, Doria is such a wonderful and strong mother.

      • Cali says:

        @ Always Lurking ” It may sound harsh, but I do hope he disappears from the face of the earth very soon.” I’m glad you said what I was thinking lololololol He’s truly a terrible horrible child abuser though! And if she looks terrified it’s because of her father, the only one she gave another chance to enter her life from that side because she wanted a dad who’s now threatening her and that makes me feel really sick for her :-( . Stay strong, Meghan!

    • Snowflake says:

      Yes, yes and more yes!

    • Skylark says:

      I feel as bad for Doria as I do for Meghan. It must be awful for her, seeing all this going on and being powerless to stop it.

      I’m absolutely disgusted at the Sun for indulging this selfish, boorish, petulant moron. They have to know how much his incessant whining is likely to be affecting Meghan. Why are they actively compounding that with this latest interview? Why are they so callously disregarding the stress they know all this is likely to be causing her?

      I can only think of one reason and it’s dark and it’s sickening and it’s nothing to do with clicks.

    • April May says:

      “If Doria did a tenth of Thomas Markle has done, the UK tabloid would crucify her”- THIS. You just have to look at what was aimed at her when the DM started the rumour she was going to do an interview with Oprah. She was crucified even though Oprah’s people had already denied, they all ignored it and continued running stories attacking her.

    • IlsaLund says:

      Preach 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • inthekitchen says:

      + a million @magdalene!

      I think it also matters that Meghan herself is black/biracial. It reminds me of when white perpetrators become more sympathetic in the news (or tabloids or online) than their black victims.

      If Meghan was white, if she looked like Chelsy or Cressida, I don’t think the trash tabloids would participate in allowing her to be bashed so hard by her own father. They would still make their money off papa-Markle but the narrative would be more about how crazy and awful Tom Markle is and how horrible the other Markle siblings are, etc. If Meghan was white, the tabloids would set her up as the victim, not Tom.

    • DizzyLizzy says:

      I have faith in KFC, McDonals, Wendy’s and all the rest of em. That stent will not hold out for too long. Just sayin…..

      By the time Meghan is pushing out baby number two, I have a strong suspicion that TM will be too infirm for the interviews or no longer with us.

    • lobbit says:

      It’s rage inducing to see the press carrying water for this man – and yes, it’s definitely because he’s a white man. And even though Doria has been the epitome of grace from the very beginning, trolls are inventing bullshit about her in comment sections and in the darker corners of tumblr. Claiming she left Meghan as a child to live in a commune and making Thomas out to be a hero that raised his daughter single-handedly only to be abandoned in the end. The narrative is so obvious in it’s racism: The women of color used and abused the poor, sweet, innocent white dude. It’s DISGUSTING.

    • magnoliarose says:

      It is gross and that is why I defend Meghan. She and her mother have done nothing to deserve the insane racism they are faced with. They claimed she lived in Compton like a long lost member of NWA. The racism toward these women has been disheartening and also rage inducing because they should be seen as examples of strong women who became who they are DESPITE bigotry, sexism, classicism, nativism and a big fat narcissistic white trash man. Doria is an activist and does social work. She is one of the good people we need in this world instead she gets ripped for her skin color. Instead of Meghan being seen as an “against all odds” fairytale story she is maligned for breathing.
      It is rather eye opening to read the excuses people make for being part of the bigotry choir. I know some of it is their royal internet BF got married but there is also a heavy dose of denial.
      Whatever you do don’t go to some of the royal forums. They may as well be alt-right sites as far as I am concerned. They are worthy of mentions on the website for the Southern Poverty Law Center.

    • audfhauio says:

      They would NEVER let Doria get away with a fraction of what they’ve allowed this dude.

  11. Mego says:

    He is one manipulative mofo. Wow. Just wow. It certainly shines a light on why Sam and Tom Jr are the way they are.

  12. jessamine says:

    The only good thing about this is that repeatedly complaining about his lack of access proves his lack of access — he has nothing new to give, not even a working number for his “palace contact” much less a line to Meghan. There’s a shelf life on public interest in his whining.

  13. RBC says:

    Maybe the “ pained look” in her eyes is due to having a father and siblings constantly trashing her in the press? If Thomas really wanted to repair his relationship with Meghan he would stop with the interviews with the tabloids. Meghan may love her father,but she can no longer trust him. If he wants someone to blame look in a mirror

  14. Dazeem, Adele says:

    Am I the only one that finds him SCARY? Like frightening? He seriously gives me chills and freaks me out.

    • lobbit says:

      He’s starting to freak me out a bit, yes. The bit where he says “if I chose to go to England in a month or so, then I want to see my daughter.” And his saying he “doesn’t care if she’s pissed off at him or not…” It sounds aggressive.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        His sense of entitlement and arrogance is massive – he’s demanding the RF respect him. He can kick his toys and make threats all he wants but he will never ever meet the RF for his much desired photo op with TQ. He’s basically saying that he doesn’t care about Meghan and she’s just an avenue for him to get what he really wants, a meeting with TQ to cash in big style on.

        I can totally see him coming to London paid for by Morgan and then having film crew follow him around trying to get in contact with her.

        His arrogance that he is somehow more important than the UK Head of State is hilarious if he wasn’t unhinged and being nasty about them and his daughter. He is entitled to nothing.

      • lobbit says:

        He really is sounding more and more unhinged. The constant references to meeting the queen are…strange.

      • magnoliarose says:

        He is me too. He is giving off Taxi Driver vibes. I am not saying he is going to show up with a mohawk and a sawed off shotgun but he sounds a bit menacing.

      • Imeanreally says:

        He sees the anticipated payday opportunities drying up, so he’s desperate and furious.

    • morrigan01 says:

      Nope, you aren’t. He’s giving off a very creepy stalker vibe. To the point where I can see that if he even tried to go to England, there will be a restraining order of some sort made against him. The way he’s talking is very “I won’t be IGNORED” way.

      It’s not Meghan he wants to see. He doesn’t really give a shit about her, that’s been clear for a while. He only cares about the access to TRF and privilege she can provide him.

      It’s also about power IMO. Tom Sr. is a narc in the classic sense of wanting to think/feel he has the most power over her, not her husband or even her new family. I think Meghan was onto this about him a long time ago however. Someone elsewhere pointed out something I never noticed – there are no pictures of Meghan with her father after she’s about the age of 17-18 or so. Zero of them together when she’s in her 30s. I think she’s been keeping a distance from him for a long time, only making minimal contact when warranted, and just trying to focus on the positive things she saw in him when she was a child. I think things like her Father’s Day post about him on the Tig was her just keeping a minimal peace with him. But seeing him, being anywhere near him? No. (Look up the term “Gray Rocking” when having to deal with a narc in your life. Really opened my eyes, and seems to be what Meghan was mostly doing).

      It all just makes me more convinced that someone at KP made Meghan invite him to the wedding, but that Meghan KNEW he’d pull exactly what he pulled. She’s had to deal with this man likely acting this way for probably 20-30 years or so now. She KNEW. But, you know, “appearances” and stuff. And she basically had to try and clean up the mess when he pulled out. And now here we are, with him selling her out at every turn, giving off creepy stalker talk. You do NOT let a narc back into your life if you cut them off. Hopefully, KP is now taking Meghan’s lead in dealing with him, which isn’t just Gray Rocking anymore, but full NO CONTACT. And I hope they use legal action to keep him away if they must. He’s clearly not a stable person to be around.

      • lobbit says:

        There was one photo on her instagram of her celebrating Thanksgiving with her mom and dad – it was a picture of just their hands, though. But beyond that, you are right–there are plenty of pics of her with as an adult with her mom–but just the one with her Dad.

      • Jan90067 says:

        This sums it up perfectly. You were right, morrigan01:

        Gray Rock is primarily a way of encouraging a psychopath, a stalker or other emotionally unbalanced person, to lose interest in you. It differs from No Contact in that you don’t overtly try to avoid contact with these emotional vampires. … Psychopaths are addicted to drama and they can’t stand to be bored

      • ZigZags says:

        Yes Yes Yes!

        I’m so glad that there is more discussion around growing up with Narc family members and the lengths adult children of Narcs go to to protect themselves. I can’t tell you how many conversations I’ve had with people that have normal family members that don’t understand Grey Rocking, low contact, no contact, etc. They blame us for the parents bad behavior and it feels so familiar.

        Do you remember the recording artist “Poe”? She had a song back in the mid-90’s titled “Trigger Happy Jack” and one line in the chorus is “Can’t talk to a psycho like a normal human being”. (No disrespect to the actual psychotics in the audience. We are all rooting for you.) It’s the Narcs that we can’t talk to like normal human beings.

        How much you want to bet that the Palace really didn’t have a clue of how challenging the Markle family was and how to deal with a narcissist? Priggish, spoiled, entitled behavior is their wheelhouse.

      • morrigan01 says:

        @ZigZags I don’t think KP had a single clue how to properly handle a narcissist. Hell, I think some people still think that just meeting Harry and “bringing them in” (Tom Sr. Tom Jr. and Samantha) is all it would have taken to get them in line, because Harry is a PRINCE don’tcha know? Of course difference would be paid to him – and the rest of the Royal Family – by them because of their wealth and position because how could they not?

        But Tom Sr., Jr., and Sam don’t care about any of that because narcissist don’t care about any of that stuff except in relationship to how it helps THEM or affects THEM. Deference should be – WILL BE – paid to the narcissist. Tom Sr. has already made it clear he isn’t deferring to ANYONE. That they – Harry, Meghan and the rest of the royals including the Queen – should defer to HIM. And the reason has nothing to do with rank or the British class system. (Never mind being narcs, they’re Americans. They likely don’t give a shit about that stuff anyway). This is about having power over people.

        Frankly, the more Tom Sr. talks, the more he’s reminding me of Trump, another full blown narcissist. Just, unlike Trump, he can’t force a meeting with the Queen.

      • magnoliarose says:

        I think those of us who have ever seen a true Narcissist at work spotted him from the beginning. Maybe we gave him a few breaks to try to be fair but then he kept exposing himself.
        For my friend who I talked about before (the one with the father with the fake head injuries in Italy and who goes around blaming his exes for his adult children shunning him) she is not surprised by anything TM is doing. Her father will drunk dial them and tell them he is cutting them out his will even though he’s run every single business he has ever owned into the ground. He convinces people he is the victim so in the past when they tried to be nice to him they would be confronted by others telling them they were ungrateful brats. They even bought into his Adult Parental Alienation tripe.
        How many tears has Meghan shed for the loss of a real father? We will never know. But I bet she is tired of him and all that comes with him.

      • ZigZags says:

        Totally! I used to get phone calls from the Parental Alienation Brigade. New friends, new lovers, new co-workers, etc. All of them thought I was the “WORST CHILD/GRANCHILD IN THE WORLD” and didn’t I know how much my parents/grandparents loved me and it was time for me to stop acting like a spoiled brat and be grateful for anything that the parents/grandparents have done for me.

        At first I argued with them but it was useless as the wool had been pulled tight over their eyes. Then I transitioned to thanking them for their selfless devotion to their new boyfriend/girlfriend, friend, co-worker of of one cycle of America’s Next Supermodel. Now I don’t even answer the phone or acknowledge their existence.

        If I had the foresight I would have kept their contact info so I could reach out to them several months or years later when my narcissist family members burned them and asked them why they abandoned such wonderful people in their time of need and how they are acting like spoiled brats considering how much the narcissict has done for them and “OMG! YOU ARE THE WORST FORMER LOVER/FRIEND/CO-WORKER IN THE WORLD!”. But that would be petty and I’m working on moving past the desire for petty revenge.

      • magnoliarose says:

        I know you weren’t being funny ZigZags but your last paragraph made me giggle.

        My friend goes through this even now. He manipulates and tricks people into harassing his own children! Someone told me once that we shouldn’t always feel sorry for old people in nursing homes that no one comes to visit because there may be a story with a very good explanation.

      • Avery says:

        Thank you so much for this! My ex a full blown narcissist. I was doing the no-contact method but we have a daughter. I have partially been gray rocking it with out even knowing that is what I have been doing! I don’t respond to his horrible behavior. I don’t call him up when he has lied on me to my friends. Gray rocking works!

  15. angie says:

    I saw the story in the DM and it is horrible. I kind of felt sorry for him for awhile, but then I realized that his habit of bleating to the press started way before the wedding. Even if Meghan wanted to contact him how could she, given the extreme likelihood that he would immediately call up TMZ about it. Not to excuse the half brother and sister’s own shameful behavior, but it does show that the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree, does it? Meghan is an intelligent woman with an energy and an ability to focus that I truly envy, which is probably how she escaped from this unhappy family’s influence. Good for her!

    Oops–forgot to mention her Ace in the hole, a classy, dignified, loving mother!

  16. Lady Medusa says:

    Poor Meghan. Not only does she have a toxic a-hole for a father, she has to cope with him parading his toxicity to the world. Good for her for cutting him out of her life. I have a couple of narcissists in my immediate family, and cutting them out of my life was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made.

  17. Christin says:

    What a blatant guilt trip. Guess what, Tommy? We are all dying, every single day. Life has no guarantees. I’ve watched narcissists create nonstop drama and outlive many decent people around them.

    I hope she does not give in to his obvious emotional blackmail.

  18. Pam says:

    I know a man who is worse than Thomas Markle but his children know his weakness and have effectively used it to put him in check. Every one has a dark side and a skeleton in the cupboard. Meghan knows her father well, she knows where the bodies are hidden. Use it to keep him in check.

    • Cannibell says:

      Hear that silence from Duchess Meghan? I think she knows his weak spot.

    • hindulovegod says:

      People with narcissistic personality disorder aren’t rational. They believe they are immune from consequence because they are special.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      People like him hate being ignored, its the biggest red button and is why his behaviour is out of control. Ignoring them is the best route – the press will tire of him and when they do they will print the receipts. I think he faked his heart problems, Meghan knows this and its only a matter of time before that’s outed.

      He’s working through the tabs that pay, first TMZ, then the Fail, Piers Morgan and now The Sun. Its obvs he’s going with the ones that are paying him the most. He’s not getting as much as he wants as he has nothing to sell now.

  19. Alexandria says:

    I feel so sorry for Meghan and even sorrier when he passes away or is very sick. She has to somehow avoid her vile siblings then who might ambush her and Harry with cameras. And if she doesn’t come she will be vilified. Hope Charles has a good plan to protect them from being ambushed at that time.

  20. Peg says:

    Kensington Palace officials are not even being polite, they just had enough of Meghan horrible family.
    Poor Thomas (nasty piece of work) want to visit Buckingham Palace desperately and met the Queen.
    For Meghan it must be hard to cut off her father, it’s hurting now, but in the long run, it’s healthier for her.
    They put the posed pap pictures behind them, still had open arms, got jerked around is, he coming or not coming to the wedding, found out through the press he was not coming.
    By this time, I think Harry had enough, the Piers Morgan interview sealed Thomas’ fate.
    I hope KP security is keeping an eye on Thomas, because he is becoming (or is) unhinged.
    His birthday is next week, if he don’t get a card or call, who knows what he will do, pop up outside BP, then hitched a ride to Norfolk or the Cotswolds.

  21. dot says:

    I don’t understand why the link to the Sun article is in this story. Why give Sun the clicks and page views? I think we are all in agreement that Meghan’s dad is disgusting… lets not give the Sun or any other tabloid reason to continue publishing this trash. The more we look, even in disgust, the more they pay Thomas to open his mouth.

  22. AnnaKist says:

    Oh, yeah. Keep digging that hole for yourself, you shameless, idiotic gronk…

  23. Molly says:

    Also, no amount of “shame on the royal family for not sending down a minder to hold the hand of this poor, naive, overwhelmed man” would have prevented his trashy true colors from coming through. I hope she never talks to him again.

    • Gine says:

      Yeah, it’s become clear that there’s nothing they could have done. This guy does not care about his daughter, he only wants money and attention, and he’ll keep doing whatever he can to get it. He was never going to listen to reason.

    • Jan90067 says:

      They did offer apparently, and TM turned them down. Also, a friend of Harry’s, whom TM said was called “Sarge”, flew in to actually bring TM to England for the wedding, and TM told him that he was going into the hospital instead. Take it for what it’s worth. It was in one of The Sun’s articles from TM.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Maybe he demanded a paycheck? And they refused. I wouldn’t put it past him.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        I recall seeing a link on here to a twitter post that had a screen shot of an article where Tom Jr admitted that the Markle family were expecting the RF would financially take care of Daddy Dearest and that the running to the press was a) to blackmail them into coughing up and b) make a bit extra for everyone else.

        Like most narcissists Daddy Dearest is not smart with money, hence the bankruptcy and lifestyle in a small town in Mexico. He lives frugally because he probably has to. Samantha has said many times that he has financial struggles and Meghan herself confirmed that she has helped him out with money sometimes (paying his bills). I once worked with a raging narcissist and he wasn’t allowed a credit card as he would run up bills that he couldn’t pay and when he had money he just spends it – i got the impression that his parents managed his money for him (a man in his early 40s).

  24. Magdalin says:

    What I don’t understand, is why the press continues to pay attention. Are people really buying and reading these stories?

    Piers Morgan made it clear to a clearly agitated-but-being-nice Paul Burrell, that the press is not under the Windsor’s control. That he understands why Harry may not like the paparazzi, but that the mainstream press is off-limits to palace control.

    Wasn’t Piers a friend of Meghan’s before? Almost like when she stopped talking to him a few months before the wedding, he was mad and is using his show to get back at her.

    I will be beside myself if Thomas shows up at a palace, with full photography entourage in tow, looking to see his daughter. If he ends up in jail, that would be even worse for her. Yeah, they might have to pull some diplomatic strings and keep him on the No-Fly List (and No-Entry list for Great Britain). That might do it.

    • Gine says:

      I think people are already starting to get bored of the stories, which is why he’s ramping up the crazy (and going to another paper, the Mail and TMZ must have stopped forking over the cash).

    • Jan90067 says:

      Yes, she had a drink meeting (about Suits) with him when she was dating Harry (they “met for martinis” at his favorite pub). Apparently Harry wasn’t happy about this relationship, and he asked Meghan to stop any contact with PM and the Fail. That could be a good source of PM’s “revenge” articles with TM.

  25. Erica says:

    All that tub of lard cares about is money and meeting the queen.Shaming his daughter through the same press that constantly bashes her for anything she does while trying to play the victim .Thomas Sr.,Samantha,and Jr all feel like they are entitled to what she has out of jealousy.

  26. Chelle says:

    Was it not the Markles who were all pissy when Harry made a comment about Meghan having a family life. Hmmmm. He was not wrong was he. Windsor’s seem to be protective and caring towards her while her “blood” seem to act like ass hats.

  27. girl_ninja says:

    Good for Meghan. Stay away from the selfish loser.

  28. KIm says:

    We learned via that video from when Meghan was a teenager that she and her dad had a bad falling out and where not on speaking terms. I get the feeling that happened a lot. This is just another case of it.

    The man is disgusting. He keeps making veiled threats in all his interviews. Who does that? And he keeps mentioning how he wants to be in the life of her children and the queen yet he attacks Harry. He really doesn’t want to go toe to toe with the BRF because he will lose.

    Samantha and Tom Jr are the way they are because of their father. I think the heavens that Doria was the dominate parent in Meghan’s life. God bless Doria.

  29. DizzyLizzy says:

    There are numerous commentators or twitter today getting into ‘spats’ with Samantha about the rumour that she was trying to get Meghan to call her father so they could allegedly tape the phone call between them.

    Samantha is apparently not denying it, and blocking people.

    Such a claim would seem to make sense as Samantha was almost rabid in the day or so leading up to fathers day and then shortly after. She seemed to make a huge deal of the fact that Meghan did not call, which may have just been her bitterness showing as a result of not being able to secure a pay day.

    If the rumour is true it also almost certainly proves that Samantha and her father have been working in concert for quite some time. KP likely found out just before the wedding and likely exposed him to stop him attending. It would explain why he is now attacking them and his daughter.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Even if they did manage to record a telephone recording to sell to the paps, they would be sued into oblivion and back – recording someone without their knowledge for commercial use (i.e. selling to the paps) is illegal in the UK and Morgan would never have been able to use it unless he wanted to be sued. Don’t know the law in the US or Mexico.

  30. Snoopy says:

    Why I don’t get is why all this complaining about meeting the Queen? If he had gone to the wedding like he was invited to do, he could have had a ton of photos of him with the royals and some anecdotes for his future tabloid sellouts. He was literally invited and now complains about his lack of access, but he had access!

    • morrigan01 says:

      Someone above noted that it might have been KP that leaked the info/news/whatever of Tom Sr. setting up Pap pics so he would pull out of the wedding. I don’t know if I believe it, but it WOULD make sense. Then again, wouldn’t British Intelligence (MI5? MI6?)know that he was doing it too? (I don’t know how the British Intelligence community works), and, like, told someone in the Royal Family what he was doing?

      All in all, I think he didn’t go because that news forced his hand into not going because he’d been exposed. If what some are saying is true, that he’d been working with Samantha to sell out Meghan since news about her and Harry broke, that going to the wedding would have made him get confronted with it, and he didn’t want to be.

      Oh, someone on twitter has been pointing out that the last time he spoke to Meghan was right before she and Harry went on Honeymoon. Remember that news that they supposedly went to Canada for it? That might have been Meghan testing Tom Sr. to see if he was a leak, telling him they were going to go to Canada, and then would come a visit him after. And that was the news, they would come to see him after the honey moon, and that they supposedly went to Canada. That when they probably had 100% proof he couldn’t be trusted, and cut him off.

      So yeah, I think this ended up being a case of Tom Sr. and Samantha thinking that they are way more clever than they actually are. Tom Sr. probably might have gone to the wedding, but got exposed selling her out, and panicked. Now he’s just openly working with the tabs instead of doing it secretly.

    • Christin says:

      He was busted on the photos, had or invented the medical episode, and is now determined to get a one-on-one with the Queen. The one-on-one would make him the center of attention AND up the value of his future interviews. If this stunt doesn’t work, wait for a medical drama to unfold.

      I think his other kids have encouraged him to keep aiming for the solo visit, as their attempts have all failed.

  31. P says:

    Many people deal with trash parents, but I do feel bad for her for having to deal with him in the public eye. I guess if she keeps him away his selling days will be over soon.

  32. Dr Mrs The Monarch says:

    I love how he sabotages himself by admitting that he doesn’t even have her phone number anymore. I bet he sold her old number to TMZ, or worse, one of Murdoch’s British tabs that have no scruples about hacking phones. Every interview he gives is basically an announcement to the world that Meghan can’t trust him.

  33. Patty says:

    He sounds like an abuser with a massive sense of entitlement. I would imagine he charmed Doria when they first met and his true colors starting appearing real quick – hence the demise of the marriage when Meghan was fairly young.

  34. Leyton says:

    He’s not even trying to hide his intentions.

    No, you idiot, selling your daughter and access to her is not the same as a someone who sells Mugs. You are selling private information and YOU ARE HER FATHER! You’re not some seller on the street. The Royals wouldn’t let them into their house, why would they let you in?

    The fact that he doesn’t see the issue over financially profiting from his daughters new life just shows me how vile he is.

    I can see why Meghan’s mom divorced him when she was two. He is truly a toxic man that many can’t be around for long. Doria never hid her from him but it’s clear as day she raised Meghan to have her convictions. Thank God she did.

  35. Karen2 says:

    Media outlets will never never never tire of him running off his mouth…not while shes married to a royal…

  36. ocjulia says:

    “[...] I made a profit on the staged pictures. But I could have made well over $100,000 by just doing a talk show.”

    That is a threat.

    He’s an AWFUL person. Meghan’s stressed out smile (if there even is one) is probably related to her father, and worrying about what crap he is going to pull on next. Garbage human.

  37. hogtowngooner says:

    As if we needed more reason to despise Piers Morgan. For a proud Brit, he seems to see nothing wrong with antagonizing a member of the Royal Family for some clicks.

  38. Evie says:

    Wow! Poor Meghan. Reading this makes me feel blessed for having had two loving, loyal and supportive parents. I felt sorry for him six or seven months ago. Not anymore.

  39. burdzeyeview says:

    He is truly disgusting …Meghan must be so upset and embarrassed.

  40. hogtowngooner says:

    From a purely PR standpoint, cutting off all contact is the correct approach. The more Thomas grants interviews that sell her out, the less value they have. Not because they’re wrong, but because it’s quite clear that he has no connection to Meghan or the Royal Family. His value as an interview subject will continue to drop once they realize he’s talking out of his arse and can’t give any actual new info.

  41. Lory says:

    Two things:

    1. A tabloid trash paper could totally pay for a ticket and hotel in London, but will he get in the country? I’m pretty convinced he won’t make it past customs at Heathrow. The Queen’s powers are far reaching.
    2. A’s much as I’m sure this is hurtful to Meghan, I think it’s creating a lot of sympathy for her in the UK where she has been exposed to some very hateful reviews. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks in an elaborate set up to make the British public feel sorry for her, and show the Royal family as accepting and loyal to the new duchess. Good PR all around, except for Thomas Markle, but he was probably handsomely paid and let’s face it, was never going to win popularity contests.

  42. Peg says:

    Fans in England, Vonnie was on Wendell(y) Williams Show, hinting that she may be on Big Brother, should be a barrel of laughs. Why not have Jr. and dear ole dad join the fun.
    Yes we are really a dysfunctional and do anything for money, lying is our normal.
    They have never made so much money in their lives, hope they keep her supplied
    With alcohol.
    Once piece of advice for Vonnie, please save some of this money, because when it dries up and it will, boyfriend is going to look for another woman to financially support him.
    Since you kick your three children to the wayside, chances are, they’re not going to be feeling too benevolent towards you.

  43. In the Know says:

    This is very much turning into “If I can’t have her, no one can” scenario. I firmly believe that Tom Sr would physically harm her if he could. His rage..that rage in him. And for what??

    Tom Sr sold out Meghan. He was paid a lot, some funds in advance for access and gossip about the Meghan and the RF. He can’t deliver on that access. Giving the advanced money back is not an option. As such, he will become more rabid and dangerous.

    I hope Doria is being protected. Tom Sr, Samantha and Tom jr are literally out for blood.

    Hey Tom Sr, you told Harry ‘not to raise a hand to your daughter’. Why is that? Do you regret raising your hand to Doria? You are a vile despicable sub human piece of shit. Hoping you die would be too kind. Live and watch your daughter and ex wife flourish and be happy.

  44. Natalia says:

    This is the worst yet. He’s cutting ties. Does he not realize that? More likely, thumbing his nose because he knows it’s done. Typical N behavior.

  45. Jayna says:

    This is bad. He is vicious like Samantha. He is now threatening to just show up in England. I’m sure that will be a paid-for spectacle. He is bombarding the palace with letters. He’s saying negative things about the royal family. He’s throwing in how he has been abandonded and might die, laying guilt on Meghan and Harry. Estranged half-siblings selling stories is one thing. But your own father. Wow!

    Poor Meghan. He is a ticking time bomb.

    • magnoliarose says:

      At this point, I would think MI6 is involved? I mean as far as monitoring his behavior. I have to believe if we see it they do too? He seems to be escalating to something. I don’t want to sound paranoid but he seems unhinged.

  46. VeronicaLodge says:

    I feel for Meghan, as I recently made the very difficult decision to cut my father out of my life. Over the last 15 years he has been manipulative and cruel. His behaviors brought a lot of drama and angst to me and my mother. I lost my daughter to SIDS, went through an emotional and financial ruin of a divorce. If I speak up to him in any way, he flips into what a failure I am. I’ve slowly rebuilt my life. I’m blessed with a very understanding and protective boyfriend who has wonderful parents. The b/f has seen the abusive and mean texts my father has sent me and heard conversations I’ve had with him. He supports me cutting off our relationship 100 percent. I’m very lucky his parents are amazing people who have welcomed me into their family with open arms. Sorry didn’t mean to make this about me, but I understand MM. her father is awful and doesn’t deserve to be in her life.

    • magnoliarose says:

      I am sorry for your loss. Hugs if they are welcome.

      Perhaps the only good thing about Tom Markle is that he fortifying children of Narcissist’s decisions to drop contact and to inspire others to do the same. These are toxic people who bring nothing but pain and unhappiness wherever they go.

  47. Honey says:

    The upside is that he’s not a public drunk, a crackhead, strung out on opioids or missing teeth and that he’s had some employment success. Imagine if any of those were added into the mix or that he’d never worked.

  48. VeronicaLodge says:

    Thank you Magnoliarose. Hugs are always welcome. And I agree. Seeing MM’s narcissistic father play out has inspired me to stay strong with my father.

  49. Joannie says:

    This is all very sad. How does anyone know he’s a narcissist? He’s her Dad and he messed up. Surely that’s forgivable! In my opinion it’s pretty cold to completely push him out of her life. Plus I think there’s a lot of projection in some of the comments. M did have a relationship with her father. She wanted him to walk her down the isle. She looks very much like him. More so than her mother I think.

    • minx says:

      She looks nothing like him, luckily for her.
      TM’s traits are those of a textbook narcissist, manipulative and self serving.

    • Mego says:

      Please go on Lainey Gossip and read the very thoughtful and empathetic write up about Meghan and Thomas Markle that speaks to why she cannot let him have access. It is so very unfair to accuse Meghan of being cold for distancing herself from a person who is thoroughly and utterly betraying her love and trust. I suspect that he really cares nothing for her and only wants contact in order to further exploit her. I can’t imagine having a parent and family members like this – I am lucky.

      • Peg says:

        I read a story that his back car seat is covered with magazines with Meghan on the covers some may see as love, but I find it strange.
        This man worked in Hollywood for a long time, why not keep them on his coffee table, is he using the mags to get attention.
        He stated that he was jealous when Prince Charles walked Meghan down the aisle, whose fault was that?
        People do things for a reason, and I believe that’s why Meghan made no effort to introduced her dad to Harry, because she knew he pull a stunt.
        Now I’m beginning to think Buckingham Palace, told Meghan to invite him, and look what a fiasco that turned out to be.
        Doria was meeting and spending time with her daughter in Toronto and London.

      • Christin says:

        I have aunts who are like this. Self-serving, thrive on drama (mostly exaggerated and/or created) and will pull stunts to get attention. One is well known for fainting at funerals, for example. The faints are so fake that I recognized it at age 10. These people are also capable of saying cruel and unapologetic things to “loved” ones. We’ve tried calling them out on awful things they say at the time of the foul, and just end up with smiles and silence.

        I cannot imagine having a parent like this. A co-worker or more distant relative is bad enough. Ignoring them is the only thing that works. You have to decide whether you can put up with another round of their attention seeking and meanness.

    • DizzyLizzy says:

      Its comments like this that really give me pause for thought. Your insistence that she looks like him is also very telling.

      TM is a TEXTBOOK Narcissist.

      I wonder how your comments would differ if it was Doria behaving in this way. I doubt the response would be so understanding.

      • Joannie says:

        If you are insinuating I’m a racist I’m offended greatly and thinks that’s uncalled for. Ever hear of unconditional love? She will regret not reaching out if he were to die and she didn’t. That’s my take and I shouldn’t be bullied because people don’t agree.

      • minx says:

        Joannie, but Thomas doesn’t practice unconditional love. It’s not all on Meghan. I can’t imagine trying to make money off of my children they way he has, particularly when he knows it has upset his daughter. This man has only spoken to sleazy media that will pay him, like TMZ and Piers Morgan.

      • Zapp Brannigan says:

        Where is his unconditional love? It seems all he sees when he looks at his daughter is dollar signs, rather than his little girl.

        Where was his unconditional love when his other children were selling her out, selling photos and having open letters printed in the media telling the man she loves not to marry her?

      • Mego says:

        You’re not being bullied but you are a typical example of someone who shames children of bad parents who choose to go no contact. Who make a very painful choice that will always hurt. So she resembles her Dad and should love him unconditionally eh? – that is very silly and sentimental thinking as if genetic similarity is relevant or important. Good heavens.

      • C-Shell says:

        Joanie. I have stayed out of this, but — as a 66 year old daughter of a classic Narcissist — have been learning a great deal today (Grey Rocking!!) and feeling comforted by the community of others like me in this commentary. I urge you to read the thoughtful commentary here of those, like me, who have dealt with Narcissists at home and at work to gain a better understanding. There is no such thing as unconditional love in a unilateral relationship with a Narcissist. Meghan will not regret having spared herself this misery when TM dies. She’ll regret his passing, she’ll hope he finds peace, but she has nothing to regret in preserving herself, her relationship with the love of her life, and preventing the public pillorying that she’d endure with this awful father playing her every word back to the tabloids.

      • Racer1 says:

        I agree with the majority on this one. I cant co-sign the unconditional love being a pass for obnoxious behavior. Every single relationship in my life is mutually beneficial. I don’t care if you birthed me, I birthed you or we’re related. Family is not a free pass to crap on your relatives and all is forgiven. And shame on anyone willing to martyr themselves for “kin”.

    • Peg says:

      Spitting image of her mother with Thomas nose.
      It’s Meghan’s decision, maybe it was a long time coming, don’t come with he paid for her education, that’s what most parents do.
      She was working from the time she was a teenager, and going to auditions and getting rejected, like most struggling actors.
      I don’t think people are projecting their life experiences on to Meghan, just that they had similar narcissistic parents.
      Google the definition of a narcissist, and see if Thomas don’t tick all the boxes.
      He is under the impression that he owns Meghan, and can control a grown ass almost 37 years old.
      Regret that she did not cut ties sooner, unconditional love is what most parents have for their children, Thomas don’t fit that category.

    • SK says:

      Joannie, although I am a child of a narcissist, I’ll not add on to the many excellent comments on this thread about that experience, but I do want to say that unconditional love is a one-way proposition. I don’t know if you are a parent, but I am. Unconditional love is what I feel for my children: As I tell them all the time, there is literally nothing they can do that would make me not love them. That doesn’t mean they can’t do wrong–they most certainly can–and it doesn’t mean that I like them all the time, but I always love them, no matter what. But there is NO expectation of that from a child. If you are an abusive, neglectful, or harmful parent, you child is not obligated to love you. That love has to be EARNED.

    • Mel says:

      If it were Doria conducting herself in this manner,you wouldn’t feel sorry for her. Stop making excuses for him because he’s an older white man. If he was really interested in protecting/supporting his daughter, NONE of this drama would be swirling around him because his mouth would be SHUT.

  50. San says:

    Until the palace allow Meghan’s mom to speak the Markle side of her family will not stop…..If the do you will see how fast they all back down until then this will continue

    • DizzyLizzy says:

      I disagree. I think the current approach is the correct one. Paying any attention to these filter feeders will just breathe life into them and excite the press.

      Never explain, never complain.

      Meghan will be alright, she is just setting her boundaries and the scene of what life will look like from now.

      I see it as no co-incidence that she jumped at a job in Canada. That job allowed her to thrive and secure her current opportunities in life.

      The Markles will eff off eventually. TM is running out of pics to sell and has no access to Meghan or the RF.

      Times up MOFO

    • Peg says:

      The Markles are a vicious lot, Doria keep on being classy.

  51. DizzyLizzy says:

    Is Thomas Markle’s behaviour partly due to benefits he feels Doria is reciveing?

    I have a theory that Snr’s behaviour and demands to be “looked after” are motivated by all of the discussion above, however I also think there is an angle we are not considering.

    I suspect that The Firm are ‘looking after’ Doria. Is it possible that Samantha has somehow got wind of that through her Journalist network of friends and foes , who have also likely provided her with this information to stir things up.

    Doria is regularly seen out and about with protection officers, who more than likely have been hired by The Firm. It would also be another reason (though not the main one) why Meghan invited no other relatives as she likely wanted to secure just her parents security, but the siblings with their big mouths foiled the plan.

    So TM’s rantings now about ‘being taken cate of’ may actually be partially related to receiving the same treatment, financial or otherwise that he perceives Doria is receiving.

    I am not sure how true it was but apparently Doria had to quit her job as her employers were being harassed day and night by journalists so is it poss the firm are taking care of her ? Doria is quite discrete so the RF would have confidence in her not to tip off other family members etc.

    Thoughts please ?

    • Jessica says:

      “Doria is regularly seen out and about with protection officers, who more than likely have been hired by The Firm.”

      Are you sure? This seems excessive for the 6th in line. I’ve seen photos of Doria walking around and don’t see her with any protection; she’s usually by herself.

      • DizzyLizzy says:

        I wouldn’t say such treatment was excessive, especially if Doria’s job had been compromised. And yes there are pictures of her with security since the wedding. I think they might have been for a time till she got on her feet.

        Doria was a Social Worker earning roughly 80k a year, Charles could easily pick up that Tab. He net’s 25-30 Million a year from the Duchy of Cornwall alone.

        I always felt that Meghan should never have closed down the Tig. She should have sold it or transferred the rights to Doria after she tripped out the more personal content.

        Meghan’s rental home in Toronto sold for nearly double the market value to the Tig would have provided a nice extra piece of change for Doria.

      • magnoliarose says:

        It doesn’t matter where in line Harry is. He is a royal prince and son for the future King. It isn’t all about where someone is in the line of succession. If Zara was in danger they would protect her too.
        It was reported months ago that they were receiving racist death threats and since we don’t know what they were it would be understandable if she had protection.

      • morrigan01 says:

        Meghan is probably still getting residual checks from all her acting gigs, including Suits, which she’s entitled to for the rest of her life. I can see her having already set it up for the money to be passed along to her mom.

    • Tourmaline says:

      I don’t know of any strong evidence Doria’s lifestyle has indicated she is now “being taken care of” by the Royal Family. There were reports she was leaving the clinic where she was a social worker (or a yoga instructor? not sure) to start a private practice. But as far as I have seen she is still living in the same home in the L.A. area where she has been for many years.

      Even if Doria is being financially supported by the Royals, TM is ridonkulous to think the same should apply to him—Doria is CLOSE to Meghan, has a relationship with Meghan’s new husband, visits her in England (and visited her often when she was living in Toronto), came to her wedding and behaved perfectly, and has been nothing but supportive and loyal to her.

    • magnoliarose says:

      I think Doria takes care of herself but probably Meghan has been generous with her over the years and she may get help to start her business. He probably perceives that she gets things she doesn’t and the things she does is most likely very exaggerated in the collective Markle mind dump. His jealousy could be based on the fact that he knows Doria will always be cared for and in her older age, she won’t have anything to worry about.
      I wouldn’t be surprised if they are keeping tabs on Doria, further abusing her because they want to see if she gets any special treatment so they can drag her in the media.

      You see this with celebrities that have one loving parent and one that abandoned them when they were babies. They shower their single parent with their success out of love.

      • DizzyLizzy says:

        TM is an idiot. It makes sense that Meghan would prioritise Doria given she is an only child. He has two other children and 5 grand children close in age to Meghan who could look after him.

        It’s just common sense.

      • morrigan01 says:

        Meghan already paid for her mom to go to graduate school and get her Masters Degree in Social Work from USC. (And for those who don’t know, USC isn’t cheap). So she was already helping and taking care of her mother before she met Harry, and is probably continuing to do so now, likely with the money she made and saved from acting.

    • Peg says:

      US magazine ran that story about Doria quitting her job.
      Doria told someone at the wedding, she was leaving England to go back to her job.
      When the engagement was announced they provided security for Doria, don’t know if it lasted two weeks, since Doria was not answering any questions. That’s how you get the Paps to go away, how many pictures can you take of her walking the dogs in exercise clothes.

  52. philomena says:

    Sometimes you can really understand why emojis came into being. Not just for shorthand, but really when there are no words to do a reaction justice and you really need more of an emotion. You’d think ol’ Dad here inspired the vomit one all by himself. Vomit out of repulsion.

  53. Claire says:

    She has an emotional attachment to her father that no one commenting does. She wouldn’t be where she is without his finding her education. The RF mean nothing to him so how is he to know how viral the media is? He’s in his 70’s. It must be extremely humiliating for her to have her family commenting as they have. She’s holding up rather well I must say.

      • Olenna says:

        Right. Just please. This is the man that tried to dodge child support and betrayed his daughter repeatedly by running to the press and trying to frame her in an unfavorable light with the public. Now, he’s even making veiled threats. Also, I’m sure she didn’t really need him to fund anything. From what I’ve seen of Meghan, if she wanted to attend college, she’d would have found a way to do it without his money. But, honestly, I think she has tried to put him in a better light, over the years, than he deserves because she didn’t want others to think poorly of him. People that keep defending him here and willfully refuse to acknowledge his selfishness or fully process what others have said about dealing with a narcissistic parent do so in order to continue find to fault with Meghan. And, it’s always the same people, same comments.

    • Peg says:

      Emotional attachments can become detachments after so much abuse.
      So why are Vonnie and Jr. not where she is? He split the lottery money equally among them.
      Hers was used for education, and she made the most of it. I think she would’ve made it, because she has drive, and she worked at a burger place, a yogurt place and learned calligraphy to make extra money.

    • Mel says:

      Seriously??? He’s not some clueless, doddering hillbilly who’s never been anywhere or done anything. He was a successful person in Hollywood, he knows EXACTLY how all of this works. Stop enabling scrappy behavior because……

    • magnoliarose says:

      So for the price of an education a degenerate parent gets to abuse and mistreat their children for life. Funny how millions and millions of other parents don’t believe that is the case.

  54. PodyPo says:

    I don’t know if my latercresponse will get read by many, but I just want to thank everyone who supported and validated those of us who have had to cut off dysfunctional family members. It’s a lonely road to walk, particularly if you have to cut out more than just one family member.

    Thank you all. ❤️❤️

  55. Reece says:

    Toxic narcissistic dumpster fires seem to be de rigueur of late.

    She is definitely doing the right thing.

  56. wgb says:

    Do any of the posters here read Lipstick Alley? A few comments sound the same… Anyway, a schooled poster from here needs to educate them on the Crown, and the Duchies because they think it all belongs to the British Royal Family. Apparently, it isn’t Taxpayers money LOL. According to some, adding the Crown to something means it belongs to the Royal Family! People have been watching the TV series “The Crown” too much. So deluded. Royal propaganda can be very brainwashing indeed.

    As for Mr Markle….. God, he is embarrassing. I don’t think he is going to stop until the BRF reach out to him. He’s going to keep digging his grave until then.

  57. liriel says:

    I only feel for Doria because the narrative is simple (as Harry stated) “family she never had”.
    Other than this I have to applaud all the Suits cast and the whole crew. They’ve been very professional. Meghan left with other major actor but they didn’t milk their story. No major advertisement. Their characters got married but it was shown briefly. No one from set said anything. Let’s focus on something positive!