Us Weekly: Angelina Jolie ‘refuses’ to take co-parenting classes with Brad Pitt?


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Here we go again. This weekend was full of contradicting information about Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt’s divorce. “A source close to Brad” ran to TMZ to tell them that Angelina’s divorce lawyer, Laura Wasser, was dumping Jolie because Jolie is an evil villainess. Jolie’s rep told People Magazine that it wasn’t true, but that Angelina had added some new people to her legal team for the unfolding custodial battle, but that Wasser is in place as Jolie’s attorney. So what was really going on? According to Us Weekly’s sources, the lawyer drama was about “someone” choosing to “misinterpret” the addition of those new people to Jolie’s legal team. Plus, Us Weekly has the same old bullsh-t about The Leg of Doom refusing to co-parent.

Nearly two years after filing for divorce, Angelina Jolie isn’t backing down when it comes to her long-running custody battle with Brad Pitt over their six kids.

“Angie’s big issue continues to be sharing joint custody with Brad,” a source tells Us Weekly, adding that “she can’t see past her anger for Brad that he is on his way to getting joint custody.”

The insider adds that Jolie, 43, “has objected to the coparenting classes” recommended by the retired judge overseeing their case. Meanwhile, Pitt is “willing to try” the classes, according to the source.

TMZ reported on Saturday, August 4, that Jolie is pushing her divorce attorney Laura Wasser to quit as the case is becoming “too venomous.” The insider confirms to Us that Jolie and Wasser “haven’t been seeing eye to eye for a while.” However, Jolie’s rep denies the website’s claims. “I’ve spoken directly to Laura. The TMZ story is not true,” her spokesperson, Mindy Nyby, tells Us. “She’s not quitting now or in the future.”

A second source familiar with the matter says, “Laura is not resigning from the case or planning to quit. The reason this story even arose is because someone misinterpreted the fact that new experts were brought in as the case moves into a new phase. The characterization of Angelina’s attitude toward the case is not true. She’s continually working to achieve the reunification of the children with their father. It’s really now between Brad, his kids and the family court, and the court will make a decision that’s in in the best interest of the children.”

The first source tells Us that Pitt’s attorney “would object to having a new lawyer come in at this late stage because it would only drag the proceedings on longer.”

[From Us Weekly]

For all the talk about how Wasser is all about encouraging parents to get along, I have to think that Wasser probably isn’t happy at all that she’s being used by Brad and his team to bash her client. It’s true that Wasser’s divorce cases are usually handled more smoothly than this, but Wasser isn’t “above” taking on a nasty divorce case (see: Johnny Depp). As for the rejection of these “coparenting classes”… yeah, I’m ride-or-die for Jolie, but I could totally see how she would absolutely refuse to do those classes with Brad. I don’t think she can even stand to be in the same room with him. Which is what this is really about – Brad continues to punish her for being the one who walked away from him.

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  1. Babs says:

    My god, these two. Weren’t they a good match.

  2. bap says:

    If you do not think Angelina has everything documented on how she has tried to bridge the gap between her children and their father think again. Angelina will be ready for court.

  3. Clare says:

    Interesting that Brad and his team continue to publicly smear the mother of his children – who the children clearly adore.

    I feel like Brad is putting career/reputation > kids opinion of him, which is really pathetic and also sad. Shows the kind of petty man Angelina walked away from. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • Alex says:

      This is where I am with Pitt. Like most, I believe that kids deserve two present, healthy, loving parents, but I’m long past giving Pitt the benefit of the doubt. The public smearing, gaslighting and narcissistic behaviour is just ugh and shows he’s petty & selfish. These kids are old enough to see/ hear this stuff and I doubt they’re amused. For all the talk about Angelina “alienating Pitt”, I don’t see how the same crowd doesn’t find the public smearing/ gaslighting disturbing and sad, when we get evil Jolie updates from his sources so often and I doubt that’s something the kids respond well to.

      • Mel says:

        Seriously???!! She put him on blast first and blindsided him. She is NO saint . All she has to do is shut the heck up and take the classes. He is their Father whether she or her fans like it or not just as she is their Mother whether he or his fans like it or not. Both need to put on their big boy/girl pants and learn to tolerate each other for the kids sake.

      • Carrie says:

        Agree with Clare, Alex and Lilly.
        He’s a tool. He’ll probably come out of this squeaky clean too despite being a tool. Few people stop to rationally look at this. Of course that’s why trained professionals are involved and necessary.

      • ariana says:

        Since NBC has said Angie filed papers with the Court claiming Brad has paid hardly anything in child support since the separation, this could get very ugly.

        There’s no way Angie’s attorney’s (it was not Wasser) would have filed such papers without clear and positive proof, which could be the death blow for Brad’s side, also the reason Brad’s PR came out with that “smear” campaign over the week-end. Brad’s team had to know Angie was about to file the papers today so they tried to sway public opinion over the week-end.

        I thought Pitt couldn’t get more pathetic, but if he has indeed failed to support his six children for almost two full years, then he’s nothing but a deadbeat dad.

  4. elisabeth says:

    as bad as Brad is….she is no better. I know she does a lot of humanitarian work but i think she’s a wacko

    • Mellie says:

      I agree, it feels like she’s being very possessive with those kids. I’m not sure she really wants what is best for them at this point, IF this story is true. People do make mistakes when parenting, people do learn and change…you know, maybe Brad realizes he screwed up, saw a counselor and has worked through it. How the heck do we really know?

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        We might be more sympathetic if he stopped trying to smear her and stopped trying to burnish his public image this way.

      • Nancy says:

        That’s what bothers me. On every red carpet, she gushed about what a wonderful father he was. She didn’t have to say a word about his parenting skills or lack thereof on a red carpet. Did he then become the drunken, abusive man that I read about, but don’t comment, on regular on this site. It is very reminiscent of War of the Roses, a love turned to hate turned to loathing. Let’s hope it has a better ending.

    • mel says:

      LOL! I am so glad I am not the only who thinks that…..I just don’t care for her.

    • Sedanos says:

      If she were no better than he was, and didn’t have the best interests of the kids as her priority, then everyone would know exactly what happened on that plane. She’s protecting her kids by not putting it out there and Pitt is benefiting from that. By leaking these kinds of stories, he’s making clear what his top priority is.

      • Jennifer says:

        @Sedanos excellent point. We still don’t know what happened on that plane BECAUSE ANGELINA CARES ABOUT HER CHILDREN MORE THAN SHE “HATES” THEIR FATHER. Everything she’s done has been in their best interest and out of concern for their well being. And Brad’s sources smearing AJ every week is…the exact opposite.

      • lobbit says:

        But we “know” a whole bunch of details about what happened on that plane – most of which makes Pitt look really bad. I don’t agree that Jolie is a wacko, but I think her and Pitt have both leaked info to the press. They’re both out to protect their interests here.

      • kacy says:

        To play devil’s advocate, perhaps the plane incident was WAY over-hyped, which is why Brad’s team feels free to be so aggressive here. If they really had something on Pitt, you’d think he’d be more careful.

        No fan of either. Think they are both causing issues with the kids.

      • ElleKay says:

        The Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services decided that Pitt did not commit child abuse. They would have interviewed the children. This does not mean that he didn’t get in a verbal dispute that escalated. That can be frightening in and of itself. Children lose respect for a parent who is sloppy and angry.

        Angelina has her demons. She always has. Suicide ideation, blood play, cutting, sexualization before puberty. Her parents didn’t pay attention to the fact that she needed help. She has stated that her children ‘saved’ her, but the issues don’t go away if they aren’t dealt with properly.

        Brad has his own issues. Blaming others for for problems in his life. Alcoholism. They both lack personal responsibility, but that is a trait most actors share. His condescending attitude. Anger issues of some kind. Looking weird in his latest movie (joke, but not)

        I far enjoy her movies over his, but both of these people are troubled and need therapy for the sake of their children, and for their own sakes. Children shouldn’t be worrying about dad’s alcoholism or mom being fearful, sick, or upset. I can’t imagine how terrified she must be…her children are her life. But she knowingly started a relationship with a man already in a relationship and who admitted to sitting around doing nothing but smoking weed. Not exactly a prize in my book.

      • noway says:

        Not necessarily. What if the plane incident isn’t what you think and not as cut and dry bad Brad as some have made it out to be. I don’t know, but my experience has always been it is usually more complicated than one partner is evil, especially when for almost a decade they have been the loved up couple. Hey but they are also both pretty good actors so they could be acting all the time for all I know. I mean granted on gossip sites we speculate and brand people saints or devils, but generally life is a bit of a mix. I do think Angelina’s rocky relationship with her father over the years probably made her have some issues. Granted her father is kind of a creep, but at times she would be close to him and then pull away for whatever reasons. Perhaps justified but who knows either way that isn’t easy. I do think it is interesting how people just pull one way or the other for these couples. They have a bunch of kids to raise they need to somehow try to resolve this and work together, or they may be looking at a few tell all books from their brood in the future or at least a heavy psychiatric bill.

      • LahdidahBaby says:

        @Sedanos:

        …OR what happened on the plane was much LESS than she wants the public to believe, and her silence would serve two purposes then: (1) to make her look noble by seeming to be protecting the children with her long-suffering silence about what Brad *actually* did, and (2) in that way, to allow the public imagination of the incident to go wild, making Pitt look crazy-violent and unfit to parent those kids. Public perception is a big part of the gameplan for BOTH of them.

        In all fairness, we can’t know her motives for not speaking about the plane incident.

      • Cleo2 says:

        @LahdiddahBaby

        If what you are implying may be the case,
        and “what happened on the plane was so much LESS than SHE wants the public to believe,” then FFS why wouldn’t Brad Pitt cut her off at the pass and say exactly what happened on the plane (the nothingburger you want to imagine it is), apologize to his son/all the kids for getting a wee bit tipsy, admit his foibles and say he too is working to heal his family– and then keep stepping ?

        He can’t do THAT, but he can have his camp leak little missives that attempt to put Angelina in a bad light?

        You don’t find that odd?

        If what you say is true- seems like he could bury her by just revealing the nothingburger incident, then for sure women like you would actually have a reason to burn her at the stake instead of burning her at the stake for no reason like you’re doing now.

        The fact that he can’t say what happened or what he did or what the issue was, says it ALL.

      • LadyT says:

        Lahdiddah- Exactly. The silence speaks volumes. Noble protector claims Brad is “terrified the public will learn the truth.” Nailed it.

      • Mel says:

        If she wasn’t trying to get him first, we wouldn’t even know there was a plane incident, she leaked it a d a bunch of other things. Neither one of them is perfect but stop trying to play her as some poor put upon saint. She uses and disguards people you can tell because a) she has no friends b) ask all of her ex’s and the women they were with until she came along. Just saying…

    • Millenial says:

      I think she’s a little wacko and may have some unresolved issues with her own parents divorce that may come into play here… but I also think if Brad deserved shared custody, he’d have it by now. He’s got fancy lawyers, too, and after 2 years of this crap, if all were on the up and up, he should have shared custody, but he doesn’t. That leads me to believe the judge knows best and instead of trying to fix whatever the hold up is, he spends his time planting these stories in the press about how it’s all Angie’s fault. It doesn’t pass my sniff test.

      • Pam_L says:

        The hold up is the custody. Angie wants sole custody and Brad wants joint custody and neither one is giving in.

      • Alissa says:

        my brother in law has fought for years for joint custody and still not gotten it, and he is not abusive or anything of the nature. the mother simply wants to keep getting child support and could get a better lawyer I also am good friends with a family who is going back to court for the fourth time to get sole custody because the mom has been arrested for selling drugs, etc, and her own daughter had to call child protective services on her. they lost the previous three times. one’s a cop and the other is a school teacher, they are about as on top of things as they could possibly be.

        you really can’t make assumptions based on custody arrangements, for the most part.

      • noway says:

        It does always seem to favor the mother on these cases, even when in your story at least the mother is not the best parent. If both parents want the children that is actually good, but at some point they do have to work together for the kids. Although, not everyone does. Here’s hoping the love of the decades was at least somewhat real and Angie and Brad can come to a conclusion where they don’t want to poke each other’s eyes out for the sake of the kids.

      • Nancy says:

        Pam: I don’t see how she can win that one, having sole custody. He was around when the kids were made or adopted. I keep reading different things around different sites. This site is much kinder to Angelina than any other by a huge percentage. I read that she wasn’t fighting for sole custody. It’s just too confusing and I don’t have that deep seeded of an interest. I’m curious, but won’t sleep over it.

    • ariana says:

      Honestly, what you think makes no difference in this case. Angie has been there for her children, she has protected them and tried her best to get them the help they needed to repair their relationship with their father. Brad, on the other hand has been “dating casually”, sculpting and listening to music”, enjoying this time alone to get his “thoughts together”, going to concerts and basically living the life of a bachelor with no responsibilities, while his estranged wife has shouldered ALL the responsibilty for their 6 trumatized children.

      In the leaked documents, it was revealed the children wanted absolutely nothing to do with their father, and unless Angie was with them, did not feel “safe” in his presence. Even the thought of the Judge giving Brad anything more than visitition at this point seems ludicrous. Maybe in a year of so the children might feel more comfortable with their father, that is IF their father makes the effort to gain back their trust.

    • ariana says:

      @elisabeth, The pictures of Brad with his eyes looking like a crazy man and him sticking out his tongue like a child is any indication, it’s seems the “wacko” would be Pitt.

  5. Cidy says:

    Brad’s team is going to keep pushing this crazy Angie rhetoric until the wheels fall off.

    • ariana says:

      @Cidy, yes, his team will push this rhetoric until they have damaged their own case and Brad’s relationship with the children beyond repair.

      So sad, especially since it has been Angie not Brad who has pushed to try and reunify Brad with the children. If Brad had worked as hard as Angie, this would have been settled much earlier and with much less stress for all concerned.

    • ariana says:

      @Cidy, SInce Angie has filed papers with the Court claiming Brad has paid practically nothing in child support since Angie walked out on him, we now know WHY the smear campagin against Angie came out over the week-end.

  6. B n A fan says:

    If this is true, I hope she remembers to love ❤️ her kids more than she dislikes/hates Brad. Btw, the judge will make her go if she wants to keep her kids, jmo.

    • bap says:

      Question is this Tabloid Magazine how do they know what Angelina done. I am sure Angelina will have everything documented on what she has done to help her children.

      This is such a Smear Job against Angelina.

      • B n A fan says:

        Bap, see what I said, “if this is true”.

      • ElleKay says:

        I wouldn’t believe anything this magazine said. It is a little more complicated with TMZ, since the have the relationship with Wasser. Who knows who is manipulating this narrative. It could be Jolie’s side, it could be Pitt’s side. Attorney’s can do things that clients don’t always approve or appreciate. One thing that can be said…their children are beautiful and seem happy together. That is what matters most.

    • Carol says:

      My ex and I were both mandated to take a parenting class. We were not mandated to take it together. In fact, we were specifically told to schedule different sessions because it is easy to see the object of your anger across the room and project “yea they’re talking about you” rather than do the self reflection your own actions. I call BS on this tidbit.

    • ariana says:

      @B and A fan, there is not a chance in a million the Judge will take primary custody away from Angie. To do that would traumatize and hurt the children beyond repair, since it is their Mother they feel they feel safe with.

      Brad dropped the ball when he was being self centered and concentrating ONLY on himself and not trying to repair his relationship with the children. The children are old enough to know what their father has been doing, and they also know their Mother has been there for them every step of the way. Don’t think those children will not tell the Judge who they want to be with, and at their ages, the Court will listen to them.

  7. Lucy2 says:

    It’s amazing how complicated this is. This has been going on for two years, she’s adding lawyers, and he still using tabloids to attack her. It doesn’t seem like they’ve made any progress at all.

    • A says:

      I still have an insane hunch that the hold up isn’t actually the children, but their finances. There hasn’t been any word of that has there? I don’t see why Angelina would add new lawyers if she’s gearing up for an extended custody battle. The whole thing with the ‘new phase’ of the divorce makes it seem like they’re moving on to a different topic.

  8. Rescue Cat says:

    Christ, move on already. We should run a book on what’s going to be completed first, the Brangelina divorce or the Mueller investigation.

  9. boredblond says:

    Thinking the divorce will last longer than the marriage…

    • Kathy says:

      Marriage: August 2014 to September 2016 = 25 months
      Divorce: September 2016 to present = 23 months

      If Jolie is just now bringing in new lawyers and they haven’t even started the financial stuff yet, yeah, there is no chance this divorce doesn’t end up being waaaay longer than the marriage.

  10. AmyB says:

    Damn what happened on that plane? For Angelina to up and leave Brad so quickly after that, and for this continued mess of a divorce/custody arrangement, it must have been that BAD.

    • Clare says:

      There were rumours that he was physically violent towards Maddox and that drugs/alcohol were involved, and that is why the older kids don’t see him. Obvs don’t know if this is true or not, but anything that involved substance abuse and violence towards/around kids is pretty bad.

    • B n A fan says:

      They are not talking about happened on that ✈️. What we know is Brad was drunk and got in Madd’s Face. I believe Angelina got pissed 😤 off, she had enough with Brad’s drinking, I bet they fought about it several times and he continues to be a di$k head, like the time they fought on the terrace when promoting WW2. Now, Angelina has to put the past behind her for the good of her children. She needs to forgive him, he was sick, alcoholism is sickness. I hope the children have forgiven him, good luck to the family.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        The children don’t owe him anything. And addiction may be a sickness, but unlike other most sicknesses, it can disinhibit people to the point of hostile, aggressive and abusive behavior. That’s what the children would be exposed to and be responding to. It’s too much to ask anything else of children.

      • AmyB says:

        I agree with Who ARE these people; that the children don’t owe him anything. IF he gets truly sober and makes amends, then, maybe. If he was in fact physically violent with Maddox and drugs and alcohol was involved, I can certainly emphasize with Angelina’s reluctance to grant him some sort of custody that is not monitored. Addiction is a horrible disease and it takes a long time to recover. It goes beyond just putting down the bottle.

      • ariana says:

        @B and A fan, I’d have a hard time forgiving the man who traumatized my children to the point of them being in therapy for nearly 2 years. Maybe Brad should back off until the children feel safe with him.

        Addiction may be an “illness”, but Brad Pitt still is responsible for his actions, he’s not a teenager, he’s a man in his mid fifties. There has been no news of him going to rehab for his alcoholism or drug addiction, which is a red flag.

        Angie is a Mother, and as we Mother’s know, we’d fight the devil, himself, to keep our children safe and healthy. Until Brad proves himself to be a fit parent, he needs to agree to visitation only.

        We all know he’s only wanting to hurt Angie for daring to leave him, also he’s trying to repair his tarnished image.

    • KidV says:

      I doubt this is all about the plane. If Brad was drinking as much as he says he was then I’m sure Angie has some built up anger. Brad probably didn’t treat her in the best way while drunk.

      • Myrtle says:

        What was his quote from that rolling-in-the-dunes magazine piece? He could drink a Russian under the table with his own vodka? Or words to that effect. Doesn’t sound too fun being married to that level of boozer, nor being his child.

    • Mego says:

      I am thinking the abuse rumours are true and Angelina is afraid for the children. She is angry and scared and won’t budge on custody.

    • Veronica S. says:

      My suspicion is that the plane was the breaking point, which is why I’m kind of eyeing some of the comments on here. You’d be amazed how often abusers fly under the radar until it just explodes publicly.

    • Josie says:

      Judging by the investigation being dropped probably a load of shouting ;)

  11. Moody says:

    While I don’t care for either of them I do think that the kids would have a more stable home with Pitt. I can’t imagine what outcome it would have on them if they travel all year as Jolie’s accessories to photo-ops in war-torn countries. I predict Jaiden Smith-esque tweets in the future from them if it continues like this…

    • Maya says:

      Stable with an admitted alcoholic and drug user like Brad?

      Angelina bought a house 2 miles from Brad and didn’t travel for almost 2 years. The children only came to UK in April and most of them haven’t gone to war torn countries with her for years.

      • noway says:

        Both are admitted drug users. You do realize that. Angelina is just recovered longer than Brad. If Brad is recovered. I’m not sure who the kids should be with, but luckily I don’t have to decide the courts will. I do think personally it’s good to have relationships with both parents if you can.

    • joanne says:

      the alcohol abusing parent would not provide a more stable home. they don’t travel all year with Angelina. she makes short trips that are learning experiences for the children. they have been brought up with this and all seem to be thriving.

    • Jennifer says:

      LOL! Stable home life with Brad the sad dad alcoholic that just can’t help himself from running to the tabs to smear AJ? I think my eyes just rolled out of my head.

    • Sage says:

      The disengaged, abusive , alcoholic parent would private a more stable home for his kids??!! 😆

    • Lady D says:

      Do you really not know how addicts behave? In this day and age? You would have to not know any addicts or dislike children to want them to be raised by one.

    • Lisa T says:

      Anyone ever notice she dresses the girls in baggy polos as soon as they begin to mature? Strange.

      • Jess says:

        Lisa T – we obviously don’t know who’s picking out the kids’ outfits but I can tell you that, with my kids, I lost most say in their wardrobe choices when they were 2 or 3. I’d insist on weather-appropriate and event-appropriate clothes but beyond that, I let them have the control they wanted over their clothes, even if that meant my son wore head-to-toe camo for four years or my daughter wore my son’s hand-me-downs for a year. Assuming she is dressing any of her kids is a big assumption.

        As for staying with an alcoholic parent, I did that as a child and it was the farthest thing from stable that you could find. I’ve basically spent most of my life trying to find stability and security as a result (and so have lived a very boring life as a result!).

      • Alex says:

        @Lisa T I find comments like yours offside and gross. This says more about what kind of person you are than anything else you may have been trying to insinuate about Angelina.

        @Moody. Nope.

      • paranormalgirl says:

        Yeah? And one day when she was about 5, my girlspawn wore a purple glitter tutu, camo leggings, an Afghan Whigs t-shirt she stole out of my closet, and cowboy boots. I lost control of that one when she was 4. She dresses marginally better now. LOL.

      • noway says:

        I am saying this as an older parent and sorry for the judgmental tone. Who are you people? How do you lose control over what your kids wears at 2-5 years old. Did I miss the memo where we let little kids buy their clothes and decide what was appropriate for the weather. Now if you want to say it is something you don’t care about that’s okay, cause mostly I didn’t care what my kid wore either. Let them have their self expression. I have a feeling this is where Angelina sits with it, and she wears a lot of sack dresses so probably her kids like them. But if you feel like you were negotiating with a 5 year old over clothes choices, help you when they are teenagers and literally want to wear their pj’s to school or worse. Let me guess you are those kids parent.

    • Millenial says:

      Brad has pretty much admitted to smoking pot and drinking every day for like, a decade (in the GQ article with the forlorn beach photos). Not sure what his current situation is, but I can’t imagine his home being particularly stable.

    • InquisitiveNewt says:

      Astonishing. You met any addicts? Been the child of an addict? They’re hell, absolute hell to be around. At least AJ is teaching her kids a social conscience and that they should be exceptionally thankful for their lifestyle, for God’s sake.

      • Kathy says:

        I am so sick of comments like this. It’s not directed at you, InquisitiveNewt, this just happened to be the comment when I finally snapped after seeing them on every article about Pitt.

        Addicts are not all horrible people. My mother was a raging alcoholic (sober 18 years now) and I grew up in the most stable, loving home you could ever ask for. Seriously, I promise you 98% of children would throw their parents in a river to be raised in the “absolute hell” that I was. Being an addict does not automatically mean you are terrible. It means you suffer from a terrible disease.

        Pitt has addiction issues that he has admitted to and appears to be getting help for. If he did hit Maddox on that plane, it is inexcusable, indefensible, and he absolutely had to change his life because of it. I think Jolie 100% did the right thing by leaving him, because you have to take children out of a situation where that might happen again. But if he has really been sober for two years that is an incredible achievement. Two years is a long time, especially when you are fighting against your brain every second of every day. So when do we, as casual observers, stop assuming he is still the same person in the same place? Addicts are addicts the rest of their lives; there isn’t a time frame where they can go, “Look, I’m fine now! You can forgive me!” So when do we stop throwing around “addict” as code for “lesser human being deserving of contempt”?

        I guess I should say I am neither a Pitt or Jolie fan and have absolutely no dog in this fight. I just hate seeing addicts tarred with the same brush, even when they are fighting hard to be sober.

      • InquisitiveNewt says:

        @Kathy I assure you that the loving home environment in which you were fortunate enough to have been raised is certainly not the experience the vast majority of us who grew up with. I still bear the scars thirty years on and doubt I’ll ever be free of them. I repeat – you’re very much not par for the course.

      • gemcat says:

        hear hear Kathy! I mean I was raised in quite a troublesome way, in part by a step-dad who was, at the time and he never recovered, an addict..but even when in a situation that was not great (and it wasn’t great) there is no way I would portray him or his actions as ‘hell to be around’.. Did he negatively impact on my life both then and later when moving on in my life as an adult, yup! Did he also positively affect me both at the time and as the woman I grew into, also yes!

        I mean addicts are not EVIL *obviously some addicts are evil, just as some of [insert group of choice here] are..that just means that THEY themselves are bad people. Not that all addicts are bad people..but rather, addiction is bad to people, and that affects them and others negatively in different ways. Which ought to be the focus I feel, unless it is personally affecting you or people you love in some way, because obv. then you should have every right to deal with it when and however the hell you want. It is not my place to judge that, nor do I (in any way) mean to by this comment.

      • Kathy says:

        I’m absolutely not saying I was in a normal situation. I am so sorry you went through what you did and hope you find healing and peace.

        I know there are addicts who are bad, up to being evil. I would say the majority of them, while they are using, are definitely not great. But neither are they all terrible. Addict should not be shorthand for a**hole. It should ESPECIALLY not be assumed that sober addicts are all horrible people. Addiction is a disease in the same way cancer is. Achieving long-term sobriety, even if the person did reprehensible things (like possibly hitting their son) while under the influence, is a wonderful thing that should be celebrated.

        And I don’t think it should be assumed that the OTHER parent in these situations is perfect just because they aren’t an addict. There are plenty of terrible sober mothers and fathers out there (not that I think Jolie is a terrible parent, I’m just saying that being the non-addicted one does not automatically make her flawless). Teetotal Trump being the first one who springs to mind.

      • Cammy says:

        @Kathy Thank you so much for saying all that. Really important stuff and yes these comments suck, especially as someone who had an alcoholic father who besides a few slip ups was the absolute BEST dad you could hope for. 😔 (he’s sober& healthy for over 5 years now). I was very blessed. My husband’s parents were stone cold sober and horrendous excuses for parents. You definitely cannot demonize all alcoholics… disgusting to do so actually.

  12. Pas says:

    Oh so Brad has always been the nicest guy. Crazy.

  13. Rapunzel says:

    A couple things:

    1. Doubt Angie could just refuse to do the class if the court requested. So I call BS.

    2. The more and more that this drags out, the more I think Brad physically hit Mad in some manner, and/or said something racist and/or evil like “I wish I’d never adopted you” or “she’s not your mother” Whatever it was, it would probably damage Brad’s career and/or reputation. Jolie should spill.

  14. roses says:

    I don’t know if I was fully aware that someone was gaslighting me out in the public sphere not too sure l’d be to keen to sit down and do joint counseling with them but that’s just me.

  15. Mia4s says:

    OK whoever is trying these public smear tactics is really not thinking long term. Yes…ideally they will get to a co-parenting arrangement but FFS, publicly attacking the custodial mother? Really? This just tells me all he cares about is his image and he doesn’t give a genuine f**k about his kids. Whatever mistakes she’s made in handling things Bradley (and there are many), any remotely intelligent person realizes that good and safe fathers do not (for the most part) go over a year without shared/joint custody after a separation. More than anything that tells me she has reasons to distrust him. And that was all Brad’s fault at the end of the day. Oh and she may have chosen not to reveal all but…Maddox will be 18 in one year. You really think he will make the same choice. This will get uglier.

  16. CeeCee says:

    Co-parenting classes are a standard requirement. Whatever happened, the kids have to come first, always, which means burying the hatchet and figuring out a way to move forward as parents.

    Angie can think of the classes as taking the high road or putting a paid-in-full stamp on this marriage, but she’s going to need to do the classes somehow. The toxicity of their relationship is harmful to the kids.

  17. Becks1 says:

    Ugh this is all so messy and honestly I just don’t care that much at this point. No one knows what is actually happening, and the back and forth in the press is exhausting.

    I know I shouldn’t be surprised that Brangelina are having a messy public divorce, but yet somehow I am.

    • smcollins says:

      This is the second post of the day that I’m finding myself in agreement with you 😉. I think all the intensity and passion that fueled their relationship/marriage is now fueling their divorce/custody “battle.”
      Edited to add that I thought these two were really in it for the long haul, that they were going to go the distance like Paul Newman & Joanne Woodward, together til the very end. It’s all so heartbreaking, and yes, messy. Such a shame.

  18. bap says:

    It is all about His Image and needing a box office hit in December .

  19. Jennifer says:

    I would refuse to do any sort of classes with my kid’s father as well. He’s an abusive narcissist and he would love nothing more than to glean new information (ammunition) about me through any means necessary and I would never ever want to give him that. I have a feeling AJ feels the same way. Of COURSE Brad is “willing to try”, I don’t blame Angelina ONE BIT for refusing. It’s amazing what family court thinks is the answer sometimes. I feel like family court judges need to do some continuing education regarding psychology and emotional trauma and see that forcing kids and their primary caretakers into these positions can be more damaging than anything.

    • Clare says:

      Your comment made me wonder how many family court judges are men v women, and whether that has an impact on rulings.

      Either way, I’m sorry to hear about the awful ex.

      • Jennifer says:

        That is actually one of the reasons I’ve held off on taking him back to court over his behavior during visits, I’m afraid I’ll get a biased judge that won’t understand how harmful his behavior is. It doesn’t cross the line of physical abuse or true neglect, but the pattern is damaging in my opinion. But I am more scared of getting the wrong judge that wants to view me as vindictive or bitter, instead of trying to raise my kids in the healthiest way possible, and wind up giving him more time or something. Family court sucks!

        Also, the last time we went to court it was about him owing tens of thousands in child support, nothing else. I recently learned from a complete stranger that he’s telling anyone who will listen that the court date was about enforcing his visitation! Made me out to be a total B that withheld the kids, which I never once did, he would disappear for weeks or months at a time! Of course he never mentioned the child support he never paid. So, if a “normal” person twists the story so much, imagine what a famous person with PR would do…I definitely feel for AJ and anyone who has dealt with someone like this recognizes these tactics from a mile away.

      • A says:

        @Jennifer, have you ever read the book Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft? It outlines the types of typical abusive behaviour that men use against women. It might not help with your issues with that ex, but it could provide some valuable insight into his patterns of behaviour and help you figure out how to manage that going forward.

      • Jennifer says:

        @A yes I have read that book, it was the first thing I read when he was sitting in jail for assaulting me and gave me the valuable insight into understanding and dealing with his behavior. I will never underestimate it’s importance in my road to recovery. Being able to put a name to all the crazy making behavior shone such a light on things I had been so confused about and gave me the knowledge I needed going forward and leaving him for good. I actually lost my copy when I loaned it to a friend that needed it a couple years later. Such a good book.

        It’s so unfortunate that our experiences are commonplace. My thoughts are with anyone reading this that has to deal with a toxic co parent.

      • A says:

        I feel like that book should be mandatory reading by all family court judges, tbh. I remember hearing somewhere else that the author spends a lot of his time talking to attorneys and judges in order to counter their ideas about the women their narcissistic and abusive clients are often fighting in court. It’s disgraceful and dismaying to see how many people form an automatic bias against women in the process of filing for divorce and custody. I don’t know what Brad Pitt’s specific problems are, but his behaviour is just so reminiscent of all the men I know who gleefully crow about their “crazy wives” and how they’re keeping their children away from their fathers on purpose, when the truth is that none of those men were fit parents in the first place. Those same women are then accused of using their children as “pawns” when its their husbands who use custody issues as a means of controlling the lives of their former partners.

        I hope you get your day in court @Jennifer! Wishing you all the best.

    • ChristineM says:

      ITA Jennifer. I am stuck in a similar situation 3 YEARS later. My ex has everyone believing that just because he is sober, he is sufficiently remorseful, and deserves to see his kid. What the judge and the therapists don’t seem to get is, his drinking was only PART of the problem. He is also a narcissist, OCD, angerholic and a myriad of other mental issues of which he hasn’t received treatment for. Apparently the felony child and spousal abuse charges aren’t relevant (or at least that’s how I view it)

      The judge is STILL trying to get therapist to work with my son to work through his feelings on his father so he can have a relationship with both parents. WTF? He abused the shit out of both of us for years. I don’t understand. Judges do need more education regarding abusive behavior in those who engage in it. Addiction is only ONE PART of the issue and just because they are handling their addiction issues doesn’t mean everything is well with the abuser. My abuser continues to play the part and I think it’s only to force contact with my son so he can still control us. Dude, move on already, it’s been 3 years! Jeez!!

      Luckily, at least in my case, I am officially divorced. He never responded to the petition so default divorce. Because of the abuse charges, he also has no legal or physical custody, thus, why he keeps taking me back to court. I would hope that Angelina can get the divorce part settled and the custody part will just drag on (I suspect)

      So yeah, this can drag on for as long as the abuser wants to drag it on. The court is useless in these sorts of cases and I’m on Team Jolie’s side. I am guessing her situation is similar.

    • Artemis says:

      Agreed. My cousin was abusive and a narcissist and I cut him off and stayed friends with his long-suffering ex-wife. He’s scum and always spins the truth into ‘woe is me, I’m a victim’. BP definitely wanted the case sealed so he could control the narrative as he’s trying (and succeeding) to do now.

      AJ cannot win, she’s a woman with a ‘bad’ past with looks and values that made her non-relatable to other women and threatening to men. BP is a man, that’s all he needs to win. It’s sad but true and AJ fighting this is commendable but it’s a common theme in family court and male-female relationships. AJ can do a lot but she cannot change the ingrained misogyny in this world. The only thing that could help her is the older kids refusing to visit BP as nobody can argue that children have the capacity to make choices for themselves after a certain age (12+), it’s harder to deny something is wrong with him when AJ is the favoured parent although then the ‘parental alienation’ theory will pop up I’m sure.

      That said. the way that family court is, joint custody will be granted and they as a parents will continue to butt heads. The foundation has been laid out and it ain’t productive for these proceedings or their future relationship.

      • ChristineM says:

        My son just turned 14 which is supposed to be a ‘magical’ age out here in CA. Hoping that they eventually realize that no amount of therapy is going to make him change his mind and want to see his dad. We’ll see though.

        The therapists have now asked me if I can co parent with my ex and I told them I won’t have to deal with him because I and my son both have restraining orders against him. If they force my son to see the ex, then the court will have to lift that restraining order because I sure won’t. And I will not lift mine for any reason. So, in my view and understanding, I would be dealing with an intermediary for sure. And even forcing my son to have contact would be supervised visits for a time period.

        I so over the ex playing these games when he could’ve cared less about his son when we were together. He said as much. We were just possessions to him.

        You’d think the judge would be on our side too. We have a woman judge, but yeah, not so much! GRRRR!!!

      • Carrie says:

        I’m hoping, for all of you also stuck in custody issues, that the recent wave of MeToo will translate with family court judges. It’s such a massive awareness this time they can’t really ignore what these tactics are – gaslighting, misogyny, sexism. I’m actually surprised to still see sexism in comments here!

        Alcoholism is the biggest factor with AJ and BP issue so that’s going to cloud what he’s doing, keeping it all about him and his needs instead of that this is about the kids needs and their safety.

  20. Adorable says:

    I have to say,It’s incredibly frustrating how People are quick to believe Angelina is this evil bi****,jealous of this & that person,is plotting against someone etc etc…Granted she’s no perfect person(nor has she ever claimed to be)…But Damn……meanwhile Brad is always the Shining prince🙄….& When facts prove he’s been the one in the wrong,few are quick to accept it…hella annoying..

  21. Frances says:

    DNK in Los Angeles, but co- parenting classes, as well of going to family therapist is sometimes mandatory when the custody battle is nasty and the parents just don’t get along. So, the whole Brad is punishing Angelina is nonsense, from that end. In my experience the custody battles start dragging and becoming senseless when BOTH parents are headstrongs and don’t want to put their differences aside.

    And yes, changing lawyers its a tactic to drag more the processes. I believe both of them are taking this issue too far.

    As for what happened in the airplane, I don’t think no one here knows. So, it’s funny when people come me up with all sorts of ideas. Maybe he was an alcoholic, maybe he was drunk… But in my personal experience a parent who is alcoholic and gets help, can be a great parent.

    This 2 just should just shut up and work things out for the sake of the kids.

  22. serena says:

    I wonder, doesn’t Brad’s team see how poorly their job is reflecting on him? He’s just coming off really bad. First the oneway Neri Oxman madness (embarrassing to say the least), talking BS about your ex-wife and mother of your children constantly, spreading fake news all over.. What a bad job, team Pitt, you’re just making yourself and him look bad -and stupid.

  23. Sarah says:

    The public’s willingness to believe Pitt’s pr team’s widly inaccurate and misleading “facts” is on par with its willingness to believe every sh*t that came out of the Wikileak stolen emails in 2016.
    The truth is very probably that Jolie has to take coparenting classes as it is often the case in hotly-contested custody battles, but she does not have to take them with Pitt. And now, Pitt’s team is spinning that fact like crazy. And everyone falls from it.
    It’s crazy and worrying. Right now, it’s the divorce/custody battle of two Hollywood megastars, a very samll thing at the end of the day but two years from now, it could be the emails of the Democratic nominee in the presidential election.
    And people are as ill-equipped to deal with this kind of information that they were in 2016.

  24. Aud says:

    This is starting to remind me of the struggles Ive had with my ex. He is an emotionally abusive gaslighter, who loves to present himself as the victim. He managed to turn every parental counseling session into another way to emotionally manipulate me. He said all of the right things, agreed to the right things, and then did his own thing and lied about it in the next session. I may be a slow learner, but I did eventually just refuse any attempt to work out our issues with professional help. It takes two willing partners to co-parent. Of course, now I’m being presented as the villainess who refuses counseling to work out our issues.

    So, yeah, I’m feeling Angie on this one.

  25. bap says:

    Question who has He put first in the last two years. Angelina has done all the heavy lifting for the last 2 years and does not get the credit she deserves.

  26. FefaPhp says:

    Although I’m very fond of Angelina Jolie, I don’t know if I agree with you Kaiser. I think he is not trying to punish her, but he wants joint custody. Once you have kids with your partner you never get rid of him completely…

    • lucy2 says:

      I think it might be a little of both.
      My guess is he loves being a dad and wants his kids back in his life, so he wants custody rights, but this has all taken longer than he expected – I imagine he’s used to things coming very easily to him his whole life. With it dragging on, he’s frustrated and lashing out at her through the media with stories like this. Which is not a good look.

    • Pam_L says:

      I don’t think Brad is trying to punish Angie either, I just think he is refusing to give in to Angie’s demand of sole custody and that he is standing his ground on joint custody. I hate to say this because I like Angie too, but I think she has stalled on the divorce as much as possible. It’s like she’s playing a waiting game. It’s been two years and the kids are two years older and they also haven’t spent much time with their father. I just think Brad is trying to get the process to move forward and get everything settled.

    • Aud says:

      How can him using the media to discredit her by sharing either confidential information or outright untruths be construed as anything other than trying to hurt her? Seriously, please explain.

    • Veronica S. says:

      I’m more cynical about it – I do think it’s entirely possibly he could be using the custody battle as a way to continue hurting her. My parents had a very ugly divorce. My father straight up used us as a bargaining chip and exploited my mother’s status as a stay at home parent (who lacked financial resources) to get custody of us. Don’t get me wrong, my mom was no angel in that divorce, and she could get vicious when she wanted to, but my dad had the money (and the reputation – he was military) and abused the shit out of it.

      It’s entirely she isn’t being cooperative, either, but considering the event that triggered this separation and the likelihood that it was happening well before this point, more people need to consider the fact that she may just be straight up afraid of him.

  27. Lisa T says:

    How awful that she isn’t willing to try for her children.

  28. Claire says:

    I believe him over her considering she was the one going around saying what a great dad he was. At least he admitted he had issues and did something about them. Has nothing to do with him being the man or me being a fan. Not a fan of either one tbh.

    • Adorable says:

      He probably is a good Dad once sober.Substance abuse is reportedly one of the factors that contributed to the divorce.Its easy for you to say “So what,he already admitted it”,Angelina & the kids had to live with him through “his demons”(as he admitted),& that has had a traumatic effects in them,hence the kids for a time not feeling safe around him.

    • Carrie says:

      I don’t think they owned the winery in France yet…. anyway, people change, also… she may have been playing him up for the press to soothe his ego, which happens a lot when you’re being gaslit, abused, etc.

  29. The Original G says:

    Like these are the first two in history to have an acrimonious and painful divorce. Accept the joint custody and move on doing your best.

  30. Thatsallfolks says:

    Takes two to tango.

  31. bap says:

    Question why do some women support men who have shown bad behavior toward their family.

    • Veronica S. says:

      Abusers can be very charming in the “honeymoon” periods of the relationship, and gaslighting can have a very real psychological impact in undermining a person’s self-perception and esteem. I don’t know what their situation is or what happened, but I know plenty of men and women who married abusive partners because they’d been beaten down enough at that point not to think they could do better. It was only when it became directed at the kids that the best of them woke up and got out.

  32. InquisitiveNewt says:

    Brad (Robert Redford Mk2) has a new face, a new attitude, a new Zen and an old strategy for emotionally disembowelling someone he once apparently loved.
    I don’t think he’s a narcissist – and, having lived with one for five years, been beaten to a pulp, suffering with ongoing PTSD and having researched the pathology in intricate detail, I’m fairly well placed in reading the signs – but that he’s channelling his own father, a hard drinking hard talking emotionless and cold character who hated to hear “no”, and whose disapproval has never really left him. It’s typical with those experiencing Childhood Emotional Neglect to substance abuse, hate and shun responsibility, and blame others exclusively for their failings. They epitomise fragility.
    I imagine that Angelina mothered him for years, attempted to help heal his demons, and provided him with a stable life. But when someone hurts their kids in the throes of addiction – there’s nothing like a mamma bear. It’s the final cutoff, the point of no return.
    She’s grown up. She’s ditched her demons and become an admirable advocate for the world’s invisible. He needs to grow up.
    She needs no lessons on parenting. He needs lessons on everything.

    • lucy2 says:

      But it’s not parenting lessons, it’s CO-parenting. All about them learning how to get along for the children’s sake, not speaking negatively of the other in front of the kids, how they plan to resolve issues that come up, etc.
      My friend who had to do it, she bore probably 90% of the parenting of their children because her husband was typically away for weeks or months at a time for work (and didn’t do much when around). She still had to take the class because it was about them learning to deal with each other post-split, and she did it to move things forward.

      • Artemis says:

        I know somebody who chose to do it. It was the hardest thing she’s done she told me but it was necessary as she hated the father and they were also in limbo. They are cordial now but once you have kids that’s what happens, you’re attached to a person you might end up hating for the rest of your life. Parenting is not easy. Even being cordial is not ideal, kids pick up these things and it influences their feelings about their parents or a certain parent.

        Everybody rags on Goop but I bet her kids are happier than the JP kids right now. And CM was a dick to GOOP but they found a way to work around it and become friends. I don’t know, Brange being extremely famous and really leaning into that image and selling it aggressively with their kids did not help them at all to get over this difficult separation and subsequent childrearing issue.

        I feel like there’s a reason why oldschool ‘Hollywood relationships’ are becoming a thing of the past. It wasn’t sustainable then to control the narrative and ensure longevity and it isn’t sustainable now. Star power cannot save you from the harsh lessons in life and Brange has learned this too late.

    • Go Figure! says:

      I once said Brad had “daddy issues” and people tried to tar and feather me for that. Saying Brad was perfect and it is all about Angie and the divorce of her parents. Either way, Pitt needs to man up, do what he needs to do, quit bashing the mother of his children and both of them move on. And bap, must agree with you. People put Pitt on a pedastal. and in their opinion, he can do no wrong. Still going on that he’s a good ole boy.

  33. bap says:

    Question why do people make so many excuses for his bad behavior?

  34. Alex says:

    This is how I understand Angelina. When she was asked about her attitude towards forgiveness.

    “I believe that without any form of justice , it’s very hard to ask for complete forgiveness. I speak to the kids often and say I don’t want you to hold ill will towards anybody in your heart, wish for anything bad for anybody or have hate towards anybody. But the idea that there is a right and wrong. There is justice and there is criminal behavior. There is cruelty and there are things that must be stood up against. So in order to be able to get to a place of peace and forgiveness, you have to address the crime and you have to make sure that the crime does not repeat itself.”

  35. Tennis says:

    Angelina seems to have a lot of issues. If she’s angry about something I still think it’s about Brad cheating and having another child (the rumour about Marion coutillard?). I think that would be something that would make her act so vicious towards brad. But at the end of the day it’s the kids that are hurting and the lawyers winning by making tons of money from this divorce.

  36. A says:

    I don’t trust any of these leaks, especially given that they’re intended to portray Angelina Jolie in a negative light. People are gonna jump on me here for being biased, but the truth is that Brad is embarrassing as a whole. Everything about the way he has chosen to handle the press so far has been atrocious, and this is no different. Remember the Neri Oxman crap? All of that continuous garbage only for it to turn out that she had a boyfriend who she had no intention of leaving for Brad Pitt. He has a proven track record of lying and obfuscating the truth so that it suits him, if it will make him look better. He is the only person out of the two of them who has consistently spoken to the media about this divorce since they sealed the papers. So what does that tell you about him?

    I love that people ignore how Brad has consistently lied and misrepresented the facts and manipulated the narrative for his benefit. But god forbid Angelina Jolie refuse to play along with his behaviour, because that means she’s being “difficult.” Imagine for a second if, after all that had happened on the plane, they had not filed for divorce and she stayed with him. People would eviscerate her and say that she doesn’t love herself and that she’s being a bad parent by exposing her children to an abusive father and that she has the money and the means to dump him and get away. Look at how people treat Jennifer Garner for daring to expect that the father of her children should stay sober and healthy. Women can’t win, no matter what they do.

  37. chrissyms says:

    I am sorry. The two of them BOTH are utterly ridiculous. It has been 2 years. They paraded their love and parenting to us for 10 years and now look what it has come too. It is just hurting the kids. Kids need both parents and they need those parents to be stable. They also need to not be dragged through a divorce and custody battle for years on end. They both are big hollywood actors and they both have big huge egos. It is gross to watch. I couldn’t pick a side if i tried.

  38. Sage says:

    WELP!
    Jolie is DONE with Pitt!

  39. Littlefishmom says:

    Sad that it’s come to this. They were supposedly so in love. What a mess.

  40. Myrtle says:

    On a side note: “Gaslighting” means trying to make somebody think they are crazy by playing tricks on them and pretending you aren’t. It’s a cruel tactic and a very specific term, based on a 1944 movie called Gaslight starring Ingrid Bergman as the victim. What Brad’s team or the tabloids themselves are doing here seems closer to slander: “the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person’s reputation.”

  41. ladida says:

    Sounds like he’s onto a full-fledged smear campaign. Did not see that coming, he seemed like a classy guy when they were together. I guess she was the one making him look good all those years.

  42. Sybel says:

    This place is soooooo cringey..

  43. Profiterole says:

    Completely futile thought : in the last photo she’s soooo beautiful. And I covet her earrings.

  44. Whatnow says:

    people news just out with Angelina filing For proper child support payments from mr. Pitt

    • Ennie says:

      There goes the division of assets. It’s going to be a fight too, for sure. They have some things in common, if they cannot deal with each other, he will have to pay. Remember the Halle Berry/ Gabriel thing?
      I still have hopes that these two will get to an agreement, both will damage their images in the process, but AJ is more fragile due to the crazy political climate, Brad is white and a male.

  45. Boxy Lady says:

    Sometimes people forget that kids don’t stay kids forever. Maybe sometime in the future, one of the Jolie-Pitt children will go public and tell their side of the story. I mean, once they turn 18, who can stop them? If Brad is really the villain in this divorce (incident on the plane and leaking disparaging information about the mother of his children), he needs to rethink his strategy and make a long-term plan. If one of those kids goes public in order to defend their mother, Brad is toast.

  46. CAYYUUTE says:

    Angie to Brad: Where the child support money at?

    I think she is done.

    From the interviews she had before, I think she had hopes of them getting back together after he cleaned himself up. But something happened in between and she is now ready to move on.

    Boy, paying child support for 6 kids?! 😂 😂 How much do you think he have to cough up?

    • KBB says:

      No way. Exact opposite, IMO. She filed for divorce and leaked the stuff about the plane incident back in September 2016 because she had zero intention of ever going back. When she’s done, she’s done, and when she filed for divorce, she was done.

  47. Artemis says:

    They both said why repeatedly: the kids asked them constantly.
    I for one, always maintained it’s the worst reason. Kids don’t have reasoning and logic like adults. If the kids didn’t ask, they wouldn’t have married meaning they either knew it wasn’t a good idea or it wasn’t that important to them. Either way the kids dominated that ceremony, it was clearly for them and their party. Don’t let
    kids dictate something important as a marriage. I also feel that family should have been therapy since the kids writing those vows screamed insecurity about their parents’ relationship. The parents should have been like ‘you know what, let’s work on this’ instead of ‘yeah marriage party sure, design the dress and the cake and everything will be great’. And then release those crappy photos to the public as well, smdh.