This is such a vintage royal drama, and it absolutely fits in with the sleepy royal “news” of the month of August. Apparently, “royal sleuths” decided to re-watch Prince William and then-Kate Middleton’s engagement interview, and they have found something VERY suspicious. It seems like Prince William lied or “fudged the truth” a bit about the first time Kate met the Queen. Keep in mind, Kate and William met before university, as we learned at some point. People always assumed that they met at university, but they had friends in common before then, and I completely believe that Kate had been trying to throw herself in William’s path long before they ever got together. So, they finally did get together in 2002, at some point. And for years, William and Kate were somewhat off-and-on (even Katie Nicholl has admitted that they broke up several times in their college years and beyond), but Kate always stuck around. And for years, William never introduced Kate to the Queen. When Kate first met the Queen, it was 2008. And William has a false memory of being there.
Royal watchers have been left confused after Prince William seemed to suggest that he was present at Kate’s first meeting with the Queen back in 2008. Kate was introduced to the monarch when she attended the wedding of William’s first cousin Peter Phillips in Windsor. Kate attended solo, without her then-boyfriend, who was abroad in Kenya – and at the time it made headlines because Kate going in the Prince’s place was a big sign that their relationship was serious.
But during the couple’s joint engagement interview with the BBC in 2010, William seemed to suggest that he was at the wedding. When asked what it was like to meet William’s grandmother for the first time, Kate said: “Well I first met her at Peter and Autumn’s wedding and again it was in amongst a lot of other guests. She was very friendly, and yes, it was fine.”
William, sensing his then-fiancée’s nerves during the very personal televised interview, chimed in: “She was very welcoming. She knew it was a big day and everything was going on with Peter and Autumn, she had wanted to meet Kate for a while, so it was very nice for her to come over and say hello, we had a little chat and got on really well.”
Back in 2008, William was unable to make Peter and Autumn’s wedding, which is why his comments in the interview have caused confusion. The Prince was abroad in Kenya attending the wedding of his ex-girlfriend Jecca Craig’s brother. William has always remained close with the Craig family and accepted the invite for the Masaai-themed wedding. In 2016, he again flew to Kenya to attend Jecca’s own wedding. Despite not having a date, Kate was in good company as she attended the Windsor nuptials with Prince Harry and his girlfriend at the time, Chelsy Davy. The then Miss Middleton looked lovely at the wedding, which was covered exclusively by HELLO!, wearing a pale pink jacket, a sheer black top and full skirt, matching her veiled pillbox hat.
I think it’s interesting that William had a false memory about this, just as I think it’s interesting that Kate first met the Queen when William wasn’t even there. Kate was on the Queen’s radar for years before that meeting, and it was the Queen who reportedly let it be known back in 2005-06-ish that she was disturbed by the fact that Kate didn’t have a job. That’s why Kate worked for a few months at Jigsaw, a part-time job she quit for no real reason. The Queen was also – reportedly – the one who told William that he couldn’t keep stringing Kate along in 2010, and that he absolutely could not live with Kate in military housing without being engaged to her. I’m just providing some additional context here: the Queen knew of Kate before they met. The Queen seemed to actively seek out some time with Kate while William was not around. William never bothered to introduce Kate to the Queen for six years. What does it all mean??
And yes this is just an excuse to post old photos.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
RIP William’s luxurious coif.
Always my first reaction to old pictures of William: Look how much hair he had!
But did he really have that much hair in 2010 or is that picture photoshopped?
HAHAHAHAHA!!! RIP indeed!
This needs a ‘love’ button 🤣
Ha ha.
Too true, Chaine!
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I fondly recall The Fringe Years.
Hmmm. My husband often misremembers things too. I’m good with details.
Mine, too. His memory about social stuff can be really off. He also confuses events sometimes, so he sometimes thinks multiple things happened at once when they happened in different times.
Perhaps William had that. *shrug*
Mine too. His stories have evolved dramatically over the years. And he really believes what he says. I only call him on it now if it’s something that matters.
I have a large family on both parents’ sides and have attended countless weddings, christenings, anniversary parties, graduation parties, family reunions, etc., over the years. My sisters and I are constantly trying to remember events and timelines because they all run together after awhile.
My husband remembers very little about dates and social things. Thank god he has me lol.
I believe he is using the Royal ‘We’
I agree. My husband was just recounting a story to a friend the other day and I had to remind him that I was there with him. Will is just being a dude. It’s nothing scandalous.
It’s also weird timing for Hello to write a story about William being a liar, when it happened so long ago. The engagement interview was 8 years ago.
But the media is also revisiting Kate’s surgery-scar-not-hair-extensions, her shoe sticky pads, and so forth. Summer break drought I guess. (Plus didn’t the Queen question arise only recently on social media? Maybe as a result of people looking back to compare Will and Harry’s engagement interviews?)
I have hair extensions and those photos don’t indicate anything typical for hair extension AT ALL. I can’t think of anything that you’d put in your hair to come up with a line so close upfront. Literally anyone doing her hair would have avoided it. Even tape extensions which are about 2 inches wide are not applied vertically, just horizontally. This type of application would only be done for bald spots or other significant hair issues. If that is the case, we should leave it alone.
Okay, on second thought it could be a 3 inch clip extension, but she had to do this herself if that’s what it is. No one would let her leave the salon like that.
I have no idea what that line on Kate’s head is @Kacy! I don’t know much about how extensions are attached. I expect you are right that if it is an extension, it wasn’t professionally done. But the original story about the mark being an extension came up YEARS ago (when the pictures showing the mark were taken) and apparently the story’s been brought back during this summer’s “Will and Kate news” drought along with the engagement interview story. At the time the original hair stories appeared, KP actually issued a statement saying it was a childhood surgical scar (while declining to say what kind of surgery) and further stated Kate doesn’t wear extensions. Kind of an odd thing for the palace to feel the need to address! While no pictures taken since then (that I know of) have shown that line, there have been pictures where it looks like Kate is wearing some sort of “hair addition” (because of pretty definite sectional color differences, sudden longer hair, odd textures in a single section, crown and back of the head bumps, lumps, etc. And there was a big hoopla when a *former” hairdresser said she wore extensions. Personally I think it’s FINE if she does but if she does, it’s kind of weird she had the palace issue a denial.
Her eyes look so much smaller now than they did pre- engagement. I have big eyes, weight loss makes them larger looking, not smaller. Am I crazy?
People have speculated that she’s had some eye work done… It also looks like she was wearing significantly less eyeliner when she was younger which I think makes her eyes look larger then.
Extreme weight loss plus some well done tweaks here and there. Her face now is more sleek angles than cute roundness. But that look tends to come back when she is pregnant and her face fills out. She is definitely someone who carries weight in her face, so to speak. I think that is why she stays so thin TBH.
She has had some facial plastic surgery I think that is part of it
She uses dark liner and shadow on her eyes, makes them look more deep-set and smaller. Also, dieting which makes her face more angular, contributes to that “look”.
My eyes used to look huge, and round (think Goldie Hawn). But as I lost a ton of weight, and aged, plus changing my makeup, makes them look very different now.
Botox can make the muscles do some strange things. Maybe she like some the effect and keeps having it done? And she’s obviously had a few snips here and there, too.
I miss her pre-Duchess style, honestly. Way cuter clothes back then.
Yes, she was so cute! She’s been dressing like an old person ever since her engagement -either too short and cutesy or too matron.
She also looked stunning at her real weight.
She was so cute when her face was fuller. Why her weight loss? Nerves, or fear that if she was anything more than very thin, the press would mock her? I think if Diana had been around, she might have been able to help on this.
I am LOL that the queen was alarmed that she had no job (and also that the response to this was to get a part-time job at her parents’ friends’ company buying accessories.)
It’s obviously Royalty pressure- it seems that all women who marry in the RF go through a phase of matronly/weight loss.
Diana had it, Sophie had it, Meghan (IMO) is going through it now.
Then they emerge from it and find their feet. Sophie is far more glamorous and young-looking now that she was in her 30s.
@Maum I agree. Sophie is by far the best dressed of the younger royals (no one can compete with Princess Anne). Hopefully Meghan will get through this phase quickly because Kate’s fashion is soooo boring.
Diana’s was stress/unhappiness induced bulimia, as well as from being told by Charles she was “chubby” when they got engaged.
Kate lost weight before the wedding from nerves, I’m sure, but also dieting. Didn’t she do the Dukan diet with her mom and sister just before? For Kate, I’m pretty sure it’s also due to all eyes on her, and to wear designer clothes and look “good” (in her eyes; personally, I think she looks best with pregnancy weight before and for the first month or two after giving birth).
Sophie went on a kick before her 50th, dieting and Pilates I read, but she seems to have regained what she lost. She still looks great, and healthy… the most important thing!
Kate must feel so much gratitude towards TQ. She made William marry her.
I also don’t understand how attending the wedding of your ex-girlfriend’s brother is more important than attending your cousin’s wedding.
Prince Philip told Charles to make a decision about Diana (even though he hadn’t even known her for that long). I think the royals don’t want to ruin the marriage prospects of these women in the future if famous princes being watched by the media decide not to continue further along with the relationship. In some ways, I think it shows that the royals do care or not totally unsympathetic….it’s just that sometimes their advice works out (Kate and William) and sometimes it fails miserably (Diana and Charles).
I thought it was Charles who told William he either had to propose or cut her lose to find someone else?
That’s what I remember seeing in the Lifetime movie. I assumed it was Charles who told him to make a decision.
I seriously doubt the queen “made” William marry Kate, especially if she had any reservations about her at all. She MAY have encouraged him to either break it off, or marry her, but even that, we don’t know for sure. It annoys me that people act like he was forced to marry her due to her persistence, her mother’s scheming, the wueen’s command, etc. William was the spoiled heir to the throne, growing up completely entitled, and no one “made” him marry her. Many men don’t want to marry until the timing suits them, and I am guessing that he knew Kate was good for him, but he hadn’t wanted to marry young.
I don’t think that anyone made William propose to Kate but after they reconciled after the brief break up in 2007, but it was made clear to William by both his family and Kate’s family that he would be considered a cad if he continued to see Kate and did not intend to marry her. For the record I agree with him being given that advice. William could have totally walked away from Kate but he chose to continue the relationship and assure those around him that he intended to marry her.
Yeah, he wasn’t forced to stay with her. He made a choice. I assume he liked being with her and decided to continue the relationship based on that (isn’t that why most relationships, when you’re young and not actually tied down, continue?). If Kate wanted to know where he stood, I don’t see anything wrong with that. It would be dumb to not keep the lines of communication open.
I heard ma middleton said he could not continue to come around their house anymore if he didn’t offer kate some proper commitment- after the major offical 2007 break up.
Yep and they all did William a favour. Kate is one of the best things to ever happen to him. I’m glad he turned out to not be a cad. Nobody deserves to be treated disrespectfully and Kate has been good to him and for him and their entire family.
I mean, that was hardly the only inconsistency in their engagement interview. Remember the break up question? William was clearly talking about a break up they had in college, but Kate was clearly referring to the big 2007 break up. Kate got a glint in her eye when Will went off on the college break up story.
I always found it strange that it was HARRY who introduced Kate to the Queen, not William, who was off with Jecca. I also always found it strange that William would go to Jecca’s brother’s wedding over his cousin’s. William was by all accounts extremely close to Peter (and still is). IDK, something never added up to me about that. I did wonder if Kate had “informally” met the Queen before so it wasn’t a big deal to meet her at the wedding, but I never realized that that was the “official” first meeting. I would think a supportive BF would want to be there for that, but William is a strange bird.
Kate dealt with A LOT in her quest for the ring. William’s less than faithful self plus the media constantly in her face. The woman has some steel in her to hang on for nearly a decade after all of that. Now, that steel doesn’t present itself in terms of work ethic or determination. But she certainly achieved what she wanted: to be a royal duchess, future Queen (maybe) and future Queen Mother (maybe). She has three beautiful children and a seemingly stable and happy marriage so all is well that ends well!
William treated her like an on-tap shag and probably thought he’d find someone ‘better’, but those ‘better’ women didn’t want a bar of him. So, it was last woman standing. Kate wanted status and to be taken care of; William needed a compliant partner and heirs. I see it as purely transactional. If there’s still love in the mix, good for them. The Windsor men have always wandered and there is no reason to think that William would be any different; he certainly did cheat on Kate during their dating years though his mistake was tying himself down to Kate when so young. At that point he should have been seeing lots of girls. Kate and her family were always going to lock him down. She will never leave the life she has, regardless.
Addie, persistence alone could not guarantee William would ever marry Kate. He was not dragged to the altar. This scenario of Kate was the only woman left is so ridiculous. Plenty of opportunistic women would have been in line; he was a big deal then, a handsome catch.
I agree. I think there is love between them and deep friendship.
What’s also weird is that there was no suggestion that William was super tight with Jecca’s brother and he’s certainly never mentioned as a current friend like the van straubanzee crowd. William was close with both Jecca and Peter so it was always just weird he didn’t attend.
As for William being insensitive to Kate’s first meeting with the Queen, well that just set the tone that he has done since. He does what he wants and Kate has to bend for him. If there’s longevity to that marriage it will be because of that. William is just as selfish as his father in many regards and while Diana got fed up of accommodating Charles, Kate is prepared to put up with it. And this summer William has been pretty scarce for a full time royal. He did only 4 engagements. That’s very sparse for the second in line to the throne.
Maybe meeting the Queen together was too serious a step for William so he just didn’t go and let Kate go alone? There would have been more wedding talk if he had introduced Kate to the Queen. Remember the pictures of them walking into church together in 2010 and it was such a big deal that William let himself be photographed walking in with her?
I always thought that Kate must have met the Queen privately at a Boxing Day shoot or at Balmoral, and William and Kate were just lying about the first meeting. They let the public think they first met at St Andrews but we later learned that they met before college.
No idea about the brother or the rest.
But William was close to the father of jecca and brother. That is how he came to know jecca in the first place.
No idea if that is relevant to missing his cousins wedding.
While I think that it was very strange that William chose to go to Batian Craig’s wedding over Peter Philip’s wedding, it has been reported that William is very close to the entire Craig family.
Just to be clear, I don’t think that it was strange for William to go to Batian Craig’s wedding in and of itself, rather that he chose to go to Bastian’s wedding over Peter’s wedding when Peter is a blood relative and I can’t imagine William being closer to Batian than Peter. The only thing I can think of is that Batian’s wedding was scheduled before Peter’s and William committed to attending the Craig wedding before he was aware that his cousin would be getting married on the same date.
Super tight with jecca’s brother … more like Willie was gagging for another excuse to see Jecca.
Diana and Charles are a whole different ball game. On Charles’s part at any rate it was an arranged marriage and Diana would never, ever had Charles if he was not P of W. Charles was selfish but Diana also had a ton of issues and she had countless affairs, some of them with married men. Kate and William are run of the road by comparison.
I wonder if when Kate looks back all her work will be worth it? She really has been trying to lock him down for years, so her whole life has been dedicated to him in a way. At least she got some cute kids out of it I guess.
Kate’s not the deepest well. I think she’s quite content with her life of luxury and status.
She does have some cute kids and they are royalty who will never want for anything. Sounds like the dream of a lot of mothers..
That’s what I was thinking. Worse that happens is that she gets divorced (which happens to most regular people anyway — how many people actually find a love story for the ages anyway?), but she has some of the cutest kids ever and they’ll be taken care of for life. Her worries are minimal. Unless those kids grow up to be serial killers (God forbid, of course), I’m sure she’s gotten what she wanted all along (great kids and a well-taken care of family life). It’s not for everybody, but for her I think this is exactly what she wanted.
I thought being married to William would be kind of dull (I mean, he is kind of dull — it’s not just Kate who is boring) …but then George, Charlotte and Louis came along, and now I can see how being married to him would have some perks (Kate and William’s genes melded well, I think).
If I had to choose between Jennifer Garner’s life and Kate Middeton’s life, I’d pick the latter.
I think the royals get so used to lying that they find it difficult to remember what really happened. Plus they have PR to clean it up and/or make more stuff up. William lied about the proposal too. It was his friend who did the whole proposal in Africa; William just lifted it totally. Since they hate the press so much, I reckon William and Harry like spinning any old sh*t to see who bites: press and public. I reckon the roast chicken proposal was all BS too; it came across that way in the interview; the real one happened much, much earlier, I’d bet.
I think, in Harry’s case at least, he proposed in Africa and the giving Meg the ring was the roast chicken story.
I’m thinking Harry proposed very early into their relationship, or a least had an understanding. Well before the roast chicken.
@Jan90067
If that was the case why did Meghan say the proposal was an “amazing surprise” when they were already allegedly engaged for months beforehand?
I also think that they got engaged for real in Africa around the time of her birthday but kept it quiet for a few months. The BS early November engagement date and the roast chicken story was just a way of making the public believe the engagement happened recently rather admitting they kept it a secret from the public for a few months. I don’t think the British public would take too kindly to being kept in the dark when its the same British public who would be funding their lavish lifestyle.
Besides Meghan also has some memory loss during her engagement interview..she had trouble remembering how long ago they first met despite it not being that long ago . She initially said they met 2 years prior to the engagement.
Clearly BS in engagement interviews isn’t just a William thing.
I think in both cases the couples had decided what their public “story” would be. But they weren’t very good at remembering their fabricated stories and/or had failed to work out certain details in advance. As others have said, some people aren’t good at remembering details and memories can change over time. But I think most women would remember when they started dating their future spouse, especially if that happened fairly recently as it had for Harry and Meghan. It’s possible their first date occurred *before* she broke up with her boyfriend but that wasn’t supposed to be their story. And don’t many women claim the proposal was “a surprise?” So it seems that line would fit the story they wanted to tell even if it wasn’t true. And Will and Kate intended for their story to be that the very public split was the only one they had but Will accidentally used details from an earlier breakup when talking about it.
Harry & Meghan also can’t seem to get their story straight about when exactly they met & started dating. In Meghan’s interview with Vanity Fair she said they had been dating for 6 months before their relationship became public, which would mean that they started dating in April/May 2016 when she was still with her ex-boyfriend.
I also don’t believe their timeline about the proposal. I think it happened much earlier.
I believe they met through a matchmaker – the same for George and Amal.
Malcolm Gladwell has a podcast called Revisionist History. He had an episode called “Save Brian Williams” that explores the way our memories of events change with time. It was fascinating and definitely worth a listen. The episode made me much more willing to accept that sometimes people are just misremembering when they appear to be lying.
THIS. I immediately thought of that episode of Revisionist History when I saw the headline of this post. Memory is NOT a solid or reliable thing. I highly doubt that this many years after the fact William feels the need to lie about something so inconsequential. He could simply have a false memory of how they met.
Take a law class on witnesses and you see how bad people’s recollections are just minutes after events. Time certainly isn’t an aid in how memory works. What I find funny is how dead set people are their recollection is correct.
Yes it’s true – you see it a lot in divorce litigation too: the husband and wife divorcing have completely different recollections of various events in their marriage, and both parties completely believe their side of the story.
Yes! I immediately thought of the podcast when I saw the headline. The two part series on memory this season (A polite word for liar, Free Brian Williams) was excellent.
How do I access this podcast? On an app?
Oh come on. I mean they had been together on and off for years, not everyone remembers these details. I mean the Queen to him is also his grandmother, not just the Queen. Everyone ask their significant other about their first meeting with parents, first kiss, etc. and see what kind of details you get. Some may be amazing, but I bet a lot will be pretty shoddy.
Now as far as Kate chasing William, well the miracle is she somehow got him and she still wanted him after that. At the time many young women were chasing William wanting to be a princess. I think the illusion of princess is more exciting than the reality of the scrutiny of being royal ever is. Whatever you say about her or him and their work ethic, they seem to be happy. I hope that is a true assessment as they have a nice little family. I also miss William’s hair too, and as an excuse to throw in nice old pictures when it was okay not to be super thin and wear fun clothes, I’m all for that.
He is not confusing the timing of a first kiss but inventing something that never existed. Trump does that.
And he’s talking about an alleged event in 2008 in a 2010 interview. It’s not that long ago. He was just banking on the general public not knowing the real story because it does look weird that he wasn’t there for Kate’s first meeting with the Queen. And most of the public don’t pay attention and wouldn’t know the truth anyway. No one is slagging Kate for William’s lie. In fact it shows she was committed to being a part of the family to attend and meet the Queen on her own.
Agree @Nic. Memory can be fluid but this sounds more like a self-serving invented recollection. Neither engagement interview seemed to be based on recounting events as they actually happened.
Delete. Double post
He didn’t just invent that meeting, he also straight stole a friend’s engagement story and presented it as his own in their interview. Kate had already (rightly) earned the Waity Katie title so rewriting history started happening immediately. The internet was whitewashed, the interview took a ton of time because they had to keep redoing parts for Kate to give her prepared answers. The whole thing was a mess. She was the last woman standing and he’d reached the end of the line. At least they have cute kids.
She was called Waity Katie by the media. But when you look at her actual age the time she spent “waiting” for him doesn’t really seem unusual for a woman her age. By modern standards she got married at a normal age — 29. And they met at a time when many would have thought they were still too young to marry.
If he had wanted to wait longer and marry someone else he could have. He too was also relatively young when he married — 4 years younger than Harry when he married and 3 years younger than Charles.
Since William didn’t have an arranged marriage, I think it makes sense he didn’t marry immediately. A lot of people don’t.
@Perplexed. I’m not sure the amount of time spent without marrying or her age earned Kate the nickname of Waity. It’s that she didn’t do much of anything else all those years except sometimes get loaded in clubs with Pippa when Will wasn’t around or they were broken up. After St. A’s Will did military training and service. Kate waited. Will chased other women. Kate waited.
This version of events sounds much better than leaving your girlfriend to attend your cousin’s wedding alone and meet your Royal grandmother for the first time by herself while you go off and spend time with an old girlfriend’s family. William forgets the press have long memories and will only be too happy to correct him.
Kate put up with a lot to land William. I hope she thinks it was worth it.
The internet IS forever. Even if “scrubbed”, usually *someone*, somewhere has a screenshot.
My take? Given Kate’s nerves with public speaking, they rehearsed the answers. William was just finishing the answer for her.
Wouldn’t Kate have met HM at their graduation from St. Andrews? I can picture William introducing Kate as one of his friends.
I think William settled for Kate by 2008 but by baby 3, Louis, it appears the love between W&K has only grown. After witnessing three of HM’s children go through divorce, the success of the Cambridge marriage is nice to see.
Their entire engagement interview was painfully awkward, the most awkward royal engagement interview I’ve seen in years (second only to his parents’). That aside, honestly the weirdest thing about this story is that William would choose to attend his ex-girlfriend’s brother’s overseas wedding rather than his cousin’s local wedding. That just seems like crappy thing to do, but then William has always struck me as a bit of a jerk. Plus, leaving Kate behind/ sending her to a family wedding without him also seems like a jerk move.
He also ditched her with a baby Charlotte over Easter to go to Jecca’s wedding alone, so his priorities don’t appear to be with his family (or in his future role as the head of the CoE). Typical William.
In the first picture Will looks sooooo young, but Kate, not so much…..
I know! That eye makeup is shocking
William and Kate are aged really badly.
Booze and excessive tanning and nonstop partying will do that to someone. I do believe that neither took good care of themselves.
1) He never intended to settle for her anyway, his dream girl would have had a much better inro.
2) maybe he was actually embarrassed that that story pointed out he skipped his cousin’s wedding
I agree that he never intended to marry her; I am certain that he liked having Kate as easy sex, but he knew that she wasn’t in his life out of love, but pure gain.
I am not Kate fan, but its kind of gross to distill a woman down to “easy sex.” How can we possibly know he never intended to marry her???
Do you think Kate knew that he never intended to marry her and that she was just a “Doofer” until someone else came along?
Also, does anyone know who William WOULD have liked to marry? Like an Duke or an Earl’s daughter? Someone like that?
He was besotted with Isabella Anstruther-Gough–Calthorpe but she turned him down. Charles also approved of her. She is also the sister of Cressida Bonas, Harry’s ex-squeeze. All very incestuous.
I’m not sure if she knew or not-but she was in it to win it.
Ooooh thanks for the info!! So they dated for a moment in-between Kate break-ups?
did she dump him because he’s dull? or did she do the opt-out like Cressida and say it was because she didn’t want that life?
Both Princes tried with the aristo set and got nowhere, none of the ladies were interested in the royal life plus William’s rep as a cheater was well known. People forget he was actually with someone else when he started hooking up with Kate at Uni.
Yeah the aristo girls already had the lifestyle without the obligations and scrutiny. Add in William’s reputation for cheating and it’s no surprise they weren’t interested.
I don’t think William and Isabella ever dated, but he pursued her hard and she kept turning him down.
Sorry, couldn’t get past the cringy “Masaai-themed wedding”. Aristocrats have zero shame.
I got stuck on that too. So gross
+1
I cringed. Ugh
It’s very english. No shame. Sorry poms.
Posh English. We plebs don’t have “Masai-themed” anything.
That there are inconsistencies from the dating years isn’t really anything new. He stole the engagement story from a friend, for crying out loud. I don’t think he ever intended to marry her. She got the nickname The Mattress for being available for sex at the drop of a hat, regardless of where they were in their “relationship.” She followed him around the world and even changed her university plan completely to match his. He had to know something, or maybe he really is that dense. The fudging of the interview leans toward the former.
But none of the aristo daughters would touch him with a 10-foot pole, so he had to lie in the bed he’d made with her. Maybe they’re happy, maybe they’re not. Those kids will be taken care of for life so she’s set no matter what.
Huh interesting! I’m sure Kate very well remembers William was not there when she first met the Queen. In her answer in that (very painfully awkward) interview she makes no mention of William in her answer. William jumps in to “rescue” her and makes it sound like he was totally there when it happened. Maybe he didn’t mean to do that, it’s possible he saw she was struggling and just said whatever came to mind first and unintentionally lied. Or he realized where the questioning was going and didn’t want to reveal he wasn’t there so he made it sound like he was.
Also all this about how he stole his engagement story from a friend–if Kate and William didn’t get engaged while on a trip to Kenya, where did they get engaged then??
Kate looks so different now. She should keep a little baby weight on her to soften her face.
Yes. She goes from pretty to stunningly pretty with a little extra in/on her face.
I highly doubt the Queen was meddling in William’s relationship with Kate, this just seems like fanfiction. The Queen has been very passive when it comes to the private lives of her own children, so it seems somewhat farfetched that she would choose to get involved in her grandchildren’s relationships. She’s allowed her own children to getaway with so much nonsense, it’s inconceivable that she would then openly criticize Kate. Charles also has made a complete hatchet job of his own personal life so he’s not in a position to be advising anybody about relationships.
William married Kate because that is what he wanted.
They also talked about two different brek ups in the interview. Will talks about being young and at college while Kate and the interviewer talked about the big public 2007 one. you can even see it in her face, she looks annoyed at what he was saying, Most people don’t know they broke up pretty much every year they were together.
Not to mention the fact their engagement story is identical to Natalie Pinkham and her husbands, they got a couple of months before the Cambridges did. Every part of it is the same.
I believe after the 2007 break-up Will promised Carole that he would marry Kate in time. Also, didn’t Kate meet HM at Will’s passing out parade in 2006?
He promised Carol? You can’t be serious.
It’s true.
Um, have people forgotten that the face is fuller during ther 20’s? It isnt until you hit your thirties do you start losing collagen and hence the slimness if the face.
Shes not gotten any botox, no way. Every single line on her face is visible. He forehead is creased with them as are her eyes.
Shes a royal now so she grooms herself better from the days when she wasnt a royal and didnt have a lot if resources available to her.’
I think Kate stops Botoxing while pregnant and she’s been pregnant alot in recent years. I do agree @Annie one’s face may change from the the early 20s to late 30s and become less rounded. But the change in Kate’s face was pretty dramatic from say, age 25-26 until her marriage or shortly thereafter. We aren’t talking about changes from late adolescence until mid/late 30s, after all. And without Botox, developing bunny lines–lines Kate most definitely has– isn’t typically part of less-collagen, age-related changes.
Sigh………………….She looked so much better when she had at least a few ounces of fat on her.
Sapphire blue is defo kate’s colour.
Big meh to the consternation. People have false memories. It happens all the time. Our memories suck a lot more than people tend to think.
I agree people’s memories sometimes aren’t accurate “objective” recordings. Sometimes it’s not that a memory is inaccurate per se (like when two people have different recollections of the same event) but rather that people perceive the same event differently and so their memories naturally differ. But sometimes memories undergo reconstruction. Loftus’s classic eyewitness testimony research is fascinating in that regard. But the odd thing here to me is not just that Will remembers what the Queen said when he wasn’t present (he could be remembering a different interaction with the Queen and Kate, I suppose) but he also remembers being at the wedding of a close relative that he did not attend! And the relative was the first of his Windsor first cousins to marry— it’s not as though Will would have been to lots of royal cousins’ weddings as an adult so they all ran together. That’s what seems odd to me. And it makes his comment look like an intentional fabrication because Kate had already stated in the interview the first mtg occurred at Peter and Autumn’s wedding before Will chimed in.
William having lost all his hair is really such a tragedy.. and wasn`t the first picture from a time when they went to some event all the way back right around the time they got engaged or married (I can`t remember), that Kaiser claimed it seemed very Illuminati? I just remember thinking that blue color was stunning on Kate. For some weird reason I thought about those pictures the other day, so it`s funny now seeing those again.
This is the first I’ve heard of W&K meeting BEFORE university. Can someone tell me more???
Lord. I can’t get past how quickly he’s lost his hair in the past several years!