What do you think it means that we went the whole weekend without Thomas Markle giving another interview? I think it means *something*. I think it means that maybe, just maybe, the British outlets are growing a bit tired of paying Thomas Markle to verbally abuse and harass his daughter. They’re especially tired of it because he doesn’t have anything new to say – it’s clear by now that Meghan has completely cut him off and he has zero access to Meghan, Harry or the royal family. It’s also somewhat clear to me that if Meghan goes to LA again at any point this year, she will not be traveling down to Mexico to see Daddy Dearest. So what we’re left with is “a friend of Thomas Markle” speaking to the British press, trying to guilt-trip and manipulate Meghan on Thomas’s behalf. This source is Thomas or Samantha, to be clear.
Meghan Markle’s dad is “begging” for a final chance to make peace with his daughter, his friend has revealed. Thomas Markle wants to apologise to the Duchess and reportedly told his pal: “I want to hold her in my arms one more time and tell her I’ll always love her.”
It’s understood the 74-year-old hopes to pour his heart out to his estranged daughter and the Duke of Sussex during a US trip that is said to be imminent, reports the Sunday Express. The confidante told the paper: “First, he intends to apologise to them both, face to face, for some of the ill-considered things he has said and done,” the friend and adviser revealed. “Then, more than anything, he wants to hug his daughter and tell her how very proud he is of her and how much he loves her. He wanted so much to walk her down the aisle and give her away on her magical big day and he’s always going to be bitterly upset and frustrated that instead he had to stay in bed following heart surgery.”
Now, according to the “source”, Thomas wants to “reopen the door that slammed” between him and Meghan. The source said Thomas is “praying” for Meghan – or Harry – to “reach out”.
As much as I hope that this is the death rattle of Thomas Markle’s media shenanigans, I doubt it is. I think as soon as Meghan and Harry pick up their public schedule in the coming weeks and months, Thomas will chime in again. The Sun or the Daily Mail will pay him for his thoughts on Meghan’s clothes or the Australia trip and there will be some quote from him along the lines of “if she could visit Australia for two weeks, why couldn’t she come and visit her poor old father?” To which I say… nope. I hope Meghan maintains radio-silence privately towards the Markle side of her family. As I’ve said before, I wouldn’t hate it if she did say something publicly about how the British press has paid her family members to verbally abuse and harass her.
Photos courtesy of Backgrid and The Sun.
DON’T FALL FOR IT! IT’S A TRAP!
+1!!!!
@Anastasia She won’t. I imagine she was loathe to tell him she was engaged, but he’s her dad, etc. She asked him to walk her down the the aisle, because he’s her dad, etc. She begged him to come to her wedding in ANY capacity, because he is her dad, etc. She will not reach out to him again. I have a similar dynamic with my family, and I can tell you this: Doria comforted her baby on the night before her wedding. She comforted her the morning of her wedding. Meghan’s walk up the aisle turned into a true moment of transcendence for her. She has never had a proper father, and she never needed one, even though she deserved one. She can help Harry become the father for their children that Thomas should always have been for her. She will let Charles love her as a true daughter, and he will love his grandchildren as they should be loved. Meghan Markle won’t live a life of anger or sadness or regret. The Markle family has no place in her life, just as she never had a place in hers. I don’t normally *actually* care about celebrity stuff (it is just entertainment), but this is so real and so raw and so relatable that nearly every time I see this dude’s name I start crying with anger. Maybe Meghan is a scheming butthole, and Harry has been taken in – Thomas is still a crap dad, a crap person, and a crap liar.
@JOVI…beautifully written piece…totally agree.
I wish I could “LIKE” this comment a thousand times!
Agree.
Very well said, and 100% agree. The behavior of TM and SM might be novel to some on the outside looking in on this circus show, but some on the outside looking in recognize the same shallow narcissistic character flaws exhibited by those two bottom feeders as behavior similar to that of our own family members. TM and SM have different names and different human forms, but they both easily could be any one of our own family members, including mine!! Anybody who could side with TM and SM have to be irrational and unreasonable, and probably only relate to TM and SM because they recognize it as their very own behavior.
@ Jovi
That was beautifully written actually.
@ Thorn-Ass Markle
Hopefully, it’s now clear that your battering ram of insults and lies were not strong enough to break open the gates of Kensington Palace for you and your nasty brood of trash to take over the BRF.
Maybe it’s finally time to pack up and slink back to your various trailers and live the rest of your life out on the loot you did manage to eke out from the British press.
My husband and I eloped because my father was the last person in this world I would have wanted walking me down the aisle. But once I had a baby, I reconciled with him on the condition that he would treat me with respect if he wanted to be a part of my child’s life. I hope Meghan and her dad can eventually reconcile but it has to be on HER terms, NOT his.
Classic emotional blackmailing. I used to have a relationship with a man like that. He tried everything – threats, tears, guilt trip, gifts. He told me once he broke up with me because he wanted to see how much I love him and want him back. Logic? None. Talk about a twisted mind!
Meghan is smart to stay away and ignore.
I hope he only got one chance to pull that breakup/love me much, stunt. I would have ended it right then and there. He deliberately hurt you for a game?
Exactly but he already tried the ultimate one by saying he might die soon and she should call him before it’s too late and that didn’t work either thankfully.
The way he talks about her certainly sounds like an abusive ex-lover. What father longs to “hold his daughter in his arms and tell her he loves her one more time”?? It comes across really creepy, controlling, and gross to me. Anyone else get this vibe? He talks about her like she’s a child that died…not an adult woman wilfully estranged from him. I don’t know, I hate it.
I thought the same thing too. My “creep meter” went waaaay up. However, the other thing that struck me (to the extent that these words reflect Thomas Markle’s own feelings), was that yeah, he wanted to apologize to her, but “MORE THAN ANYTHING” he wanted to hug her and whisper sweet nothings to her, like how much he loved her & was proud of her (preferably in front of cameras). Because after all the dreadful things he’s said about her, and the money he made at her expense, the most important thing was what HE wanted to do, not the sincere apology that she, her husband, or in-laws were owed.
Also, I don’t know about anyone else but his many, many rants were so terrible, abusive, and public that any apology must also be a one-time and public statement. Otherwise, that whole interview above just reads as another request for a call and royal acknowledgement. You know, if saying call me for my upcoming birthday doesn’t work, try saying his family members tend to die at around his current age & Meghan would be sorry if she didn’t call him. If that doesn’t work, try threatening to continue talking to the press. If all of that doesn’t work, then try a little sugar. What a jerk.
Meghan has DECADES of dealing with her Father’s aggressive/passive behavior…but I hope she doesn’t approach him until AFTER she has had her first child…and ONLY if he shuts his yap and stays out of the press…which I don’t see happening…because I believe his oldest daughter Samantha is the is the fuse that ALWAYS ignites his putrid fire…and he is the type of man who was BORN trying to push Jaysus off the cross…a pure victim whose stance is that NOTHING is his fault…when it’s him that creates the havoc…
No..they will NEVA go silently into the night…because the Markles’ are the type of folks who let their envy wear them OUT!!!!
If I were Meghan…if something happened to him health-wise…I would assist financially AFTER I received confirmation that he actually had a health issue…other than that…I wouldn’t approach him with a 10-foot pole…the stakes are SO MUCH HIGHER…and Daddy Dearest is gonna have to learn that the manipulation he used in the past ain’t gonna fly anymore…The Firm will not stand for it…and that’s the bottom line…
He earned a decent income, can use Medicare, owns property in LA and lives near the US border. He can handle his own affairs., the “woe is me” imaging is an act typical of narcissism.
If she helps him out in any way it will never stop. Just no to helping him out.
If she’s going to assist him financially with health concerns, I would want her to pay for a top of the line health insurance plan for him. Something that covers everything with very little to no expense on his part. She could buy the policy, be “taking care of him in his old age/ill health,” and still never have to speak to him directly.
And still give him media fodder about how she won’t speak to him? This family is so profoundly ignorant of how the royal family works. I know they’re American but I thought it was common knowledge that it’s taboo to divulge personal RF info in the tabloids and also that fathers do not give speeches at royal weddings. Scammy thought “Harry should fly him over in a private jet.” “Why didn’t my father get a coat of arms?” They’re hilarious actually, like the throw your head back and laugh uproariously kind of hilarious. Especially when the half-“sister” gets her lips done, dyes her hair dark and changes her name back to Markle.
Lol……I’d even forgotten about the dyed hair, badly done lips and changed name…….Single White Female on crack.
He recognizes some of his comments were “ill-considered” yet he keeps publicly running his mouth. 🤔🤔🤔
The man can’t be trusted, and she’s well rid of him.
It’s nice to see that the bulk of comments about him are turning negative now. While there are always going to be the racist dog whistlers, the majority is now seeing him for this narcissistic POS he’s shown himself to be. She’s well rid of him. I don’t think Harry will trust him as far as he can throw him, which isn’t even an inch!
He has a taste for the media exposure and easy money so ANY hint of a softening in stance from H&M will have him running his fat gob off to whatever tabloid that will give him money.
He is not sorry for what he has done, he is only sorry that he didn’t get away with it and was held accountable for his actions.
He’s bitter all right, and its not about not walking her down the aisle but at not getting the royal treatment Doria did. I still think the reason he pulled the pap stunt was not only to get out of attending the wedding but to get back at Meghan for not giving into his alleged demands (i.e. giving a speech at the ceremony and covering the expenses for him to bring a small entourage to the wedding). He wanted to be front and centre of the wedding, he has made that very very clear.
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That you say this is easy money for him and how his actions support this is absolutely sickening to me. That he accepts payment for disrupting only 1 of his children’s lives because she married royalty. That he acts like she is his only child, caretaker, future producer of grandchildren and link to family is insulting to the rest of his family.
If anything he said is true. To speak with his daughter means only to speak to her. Do not give paid interviews. Do bot manipulate her emotionally. Just reach out to her. He knows how. This isn’t his end game. He’s a true pos and Meghan should continue to stay silent.
If he ever reaches out and she connects we will never know about it. Should never know about it.
Yes, but from Thomas Markle’s point of view, what’s the point of having a normal, private conversation w/ one’s royal daughter unless there’s an audience. Where’s the satisfaction? This is the man who ranted that royal traditions were “dusty” and staid, then in the next breath lamented about not having an audience with the queen where they could drink tee. He also said he wouldn’t care if he never spoke to Harry again. Then, later said he loved both Harry & Meghan. Unbelievable, but it’s like that old joke, (“This restaurant serves terrible food, and such small portions!”) It’s just a matter of which meds he’s on at the time of an interview.
Notice that whether it’s the father, 1/2-brother or 1/2-sister, regardless of whether the interview is negative or somewhat positive/fawning, they always want to get closer to Meghan, and publicly. They want to be acknowledged and want stature. After all, Meghan’s life changed but nothing has changed in their own lives. They see her in the news all the time, but they are still left scratching themselves in a double-wide trailer by the highway. What’s up with that?
So even though he has been the one to slam them in the media, it is their obligation to “reach out” to him. Man, your delusion is off the wall. If they reach out there will be at least another 6 months of him running to the press. What a piece of excrement.
Truth.
He has always been about her coming to him, not the other way around – its all about control. He wants to control her and he wants to show that he’s the most important man in her life, not her new husband.
Even the wording about “holding her in my arms again and telling her I’ll never stop loving her,” or whatever it is he said, is so very ex-boyfriend and so unlike a father. It’s creepy! He wants to be husband and father to her and I can only imagine the twisted things he’s said to her in the past if this is what he says to the press.
I thought it was a little creepy also, Amy. Why couldn’t he have said he can’t wait to hug her? A little more familial. Perhaps he was trying to make it seem like he misses her soooooo much?
Don’t forget Jr saying in past interviews that TM was “obsessed “ with Meghan when she was born/growing up. This is all part and parcel of his obsession.
@ Amy
EXACTTTTLLLLYYY.
His entire approach and language are just sooooo incredibly inappropriate and creepy. Very Donald Trump on Ivanka.
He needs to find himself a nice lady friend and concentrate on that, rather than focusing all this (sexual) energy towards his poor daughter.
PS: My Mother told me that after last weeks attack, she started adding prayers of protection for Meghan + Harry to her rosary routine. 😂
100% super creepy with the “hold her in my arms” BS. I smell a child abuser who became an adult woman abuser.
His pathology is truly on display
This guy is playing every move out of the Narc handbook. It’s pathetic to watch.
Also, what really enrages me for Meghan, is that her horrible family has now put her in the worst position ever. Imagine when the time comes that Thomas Markle passes away. If she goes to his funeral, it’s news and her disgusting sister will attempt to exploit and milk every second of it and smear Meghan in the process for “leaving him with a broken heart” and will blame her for his death. If she doesn’t go, it will still be news and she will do the same. She can’t win with these people no matter what she does. They are literally like piranhas circling her, waiting for just one tiny bit of flesh to strike. The only way these people are going to fade away into oblivion is for the British press to cut them off completely. I’m hoping it’s coming soon.
IMO, Scammy is the dangerous one who needs to be shut down. She’s resorting to outright lies to get press attention – Daddy’s clothes line and saying she was going to be on CBB UK when it was never ever the case. The hate and bitterness that emanates from her every pore means that she will never stop publicly hating on Meghan – they need to burn her so bad that even the press stays away. She’s the type that would turn up to events with H&M and make a scene.
You’re so right in that there is no “winning” with abusive, narcissistic people. The best one can do is stay away. Outsiders who have never personally encountered this situation freely judge and think they would do better, but it’s simply not possible. Harry and Meghan have the means to ignore him and cut off his oxygen. Living well will be her best revenge.
Eventually the press payouts will get smaller, yes?
I think people only understand if they’ve repeatedly been in the crosshairs of someone like this. They’ll use and abuse, plus seek to be the center of attention, until their last breath.
He’s all over the map with his sympathy ploys and vindictive talk (often in the same interview).
So, for those of us who have never had to deal with a narcissist, are there early warning signs one can watch out for? I’m pretty sure I’ve never been exposed to one and now I’m a little worried about getting taken in by them.
@LadyD Narcissists have patterns of behaviour from which they rarely deviate. Firstly, relationship wise, they “love bomb” you – be it in terms of friendship or romance. They’re so into you, it seems, it slips you off balance. If it’s romantic, they’ll tell you they love you far too soon. This period, in which you will be put on a pedestal and can do no wrong, slips into the devaluation stage. Control. It can take just one thing to tarnish your halo, and they then systematically wreck you, your self esteem, friendships and familial relationships. Lastly comes the discard stage, where you’re dumped unceremoniously. Even then, they might try to insinuate themselves into your life every now and then because – control.
Many narcissists are brash, hedonistic and confrontational. They have grandiose ideas, believing themselves to be more intelligent, better human beings than any other. They go into incredible meltdowns in which their rage is absolutely uncontrollable and unhinged. They cannot keep a secret and have absolutely no respect for your space, identity, privacy. They’re compulsive cheaters and liars. Their talent for manipulation is well developed. When caught out, they either bluff or cry foul.
Easiest way to tell if someone’s a narcissist? Ask them. If they say yes, believe them. Because they’ll be proud of it.
I tried to think of the most common traits of the handful of extreme ones I’ve known. Lying and failure to ever admit they are wrong (even over minor things) immediately come to mind. They are also extremely thin-skinned.
They can be spiteful out of jealousy or any minor perceived slight to their fragile egos, and love playing victim. Everything is a competition to them, even if it’s who makes the best fruit salad. And they cannot share the spotlight, even for the wedding or funeral of a “loved” one (using quotes because they view most people as objects). They’ll talk trash or pull a stunt to become the center of attention.
Narcissists (particularly when they come in the form of a parent) also do not see you as your own person, but as merely an extension of themselves. Your achievements are their achievements. If you’re amazing, it’s because THEY made you that way. And if you dare to defy them, hell hath no fury…
And I give you Thomas Markle.
I kind of wish DORIA would come out with a statement declaring exactly the kind of monster Meghan is dealing with, and WHY she will not/cannot publicly give in to this emotional blackmail. Wonder if that would shut him up?
My father is so similar to this narcissist. “So hard done by. Woah is me.” Just no. She is better off without him. Too much bullsh!t.
How about everyone stop reposting the non stories about him saying nothing new…
Oh, do shut up Thomas.
I totally read that comment in a British “fish called Wanda” sort of way.
Lol. I heard that in John Cleese’s voice!
This is pure conjecture on my part, but once Thomas Jr. started pulling the Middletons into this, I thought Prince William would step in, in a way that Harry might not.
William doesn’t play around when it comes to his loathing of the press. He’d be the first person lawyered-up and threatening someone. OR, doing some underhanded shenanigans (which aren’t really shenanigans in this case) to shut them up.
William is controlling and press averse, but Harry, even pre-Meghan, is the most active royal when it comes to filing complaints with the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO).
Harry is very active and litigious on his own. William may be supportive and advisory, but Harry definitely does not need prodding to take action.
Wasn’t it agreed unpon that he didn’t have any health crisis? Didn’t Megan’s people almost outright say as much?
He truly is shameless and out of touch to bring up this lie again.
Actually he really does remind me of the dad from “shameless “. He would sell and manipulate his kids every chance as well.
He intends to apologize like I intend to go on a diet this week…..**eyeroll**
Not going to lie – you made me spit out my coffee!
We can start a thread – he intends to apologize, like I intend to . . . . .
. . . . clean out my pantry
which co-incidentally has been on my to-do list for 35 weeks *sigh*
I wash all my walls twice a year in spring and winter. The spring cleaning hasn’t happened yet. I’m so crushed by that fact:)
You wash your walls? More power to you. I just want to clean out my sock drawer.
I usually do a “clean out the closets” (and put together a donation bag) at least 1-2 times per year. I’ve said I was going to do this since last spring ….I’m *still* getting around to it lol. I’ll do it when TM stops bleating to the press….no, wait, it”ll never happen then…. better get my a$$ in gear and just do it sigh….
Finish unpacking from moving house two years ago. 😳
I think he’s running out of steam now and has tried to change his tactics from being nasty in an effort to get them to contact him to stop, to now being remorseful and playing the “I’m old and might die” card. He’s hoping that’ll work but it’s the lies of a desperate man!
No, he’s not running out of steam. He’s just cycling through his normal repertoire of manipulation tactics. Victimhood,, demands, threats, explosions of anger, pleading, rinse and repeat.
There is no running out of steam. Not until, as someone posted upthread, ‘his last breath’.
When Meghan resumes work, he will resume with the interviews. I noticed that every of his interviews comes before or after any public engagement by Meghan e Harry and I don’t think it’s a coincidence
Smart observation, when she makes a public appearance, he will most certainly start speaking again to shift the focus back onto himself. Malignant narcissists are predictable.
He is indefatigable in his pursuit of information, a photo op, a pipeline for more opportunities to sell out his daughter. I don’t believe for one minute his desire to connect is about an apology.
Based on those who had to deal with a Thomas in their life, I really doubt it’s a sincere request from him at all. He wants what he truly believes is his right. I wonder if his type ever gives up?
Of course not, Lady D. You are quite right.
It’s about narcisstic supply. Google it.
“I don’t expect to see her or hear back from her and that’s OK,” the 74-year-old is quoted as saying in the report. He said this months ago, lol.
Yes, so if “that’s OK,” then please, please shut up. This is becoming very predictable. After all the crap he has spewed, now he wants to apologize? Oh, it’s only NOW you think you’ve done something wrong? Only now, when you realize your credibility has been shot to ratshit, you want to apologize. How nasty it must be to wake up in the morning and realize the whole world hates you.
The gossip press is turning on Dad and the money is drying up. Get him on tape that he faked the heart attack and surgery and that will be the end of Bad Dad. The hold in my arms sounds icky, like he desires her.
I’ve resisted clicking on stories involving him for the last few weeks because he’s an awful person. But I have to ask, for as much anger this guy generates from article writers and commenters alike on this site, is there a reason we keep talking about this guy?
He’s really pulling the Daddy-Shirley-Temple melodrama out of his ar$e, isn’t he? Meghan is far too intelligent to fall for such fatuous nonsense. But, I fear, he’ll never go away. His malignant shadow will linger post mortem and she’ll never be able to forget that this guy, who sabotaged her wedding, sits at the centre of the web. With Samantha the sidekick, desperately trying to win Daddy’s favour, the gruesome twosome will make fodder of any press mention of the Sussexes.
The Markle mutts are so stupid about being so public anybody who has dirt on them now know they will be paid handsomely to spill tea. Pippa’s father in law got splashed in the news about a rape charge primarily because he’s Pippa’s father in law.
I would call him when pigs fly and hell freezes over.
There is a very clear change in the comments on the latest DM article. People’s comments are MUCH more negative towards Thomas Markle. The worm has turned as my own dad would say.
And he continues to make money off of this mess, even by saying he wants to apologize. He continues to make money but “loves her so much.” He is vile.
I think we keep talking about him and this because so many of us have a TM in our lives.
A lot of us relate so much, and usually don’t get to talk about it with others who totally understand.
I think in dissecting him and his behavior we are trying to understand and come to terms with our own abusive people situation.
Completely agree. Comments on TM posts have confirmed for me personally that making contact is supplying oxygen to these types. Their drama is exhausting, and their unpredictable cruelty is scarring. I had already determined that ignoring was the only way to effectively deal with this type of person, and that they do not mellow with age.
Any guilt I have felt has mostly melted, thanks to knowing others are dealing with similar situations.
+1000 CarinaCat. Seeing this discussed and sometimes participating in the discussion has been so helpful for me. Knowing that others have experienced this kind of parent – seeing it called out as, yes, abuse – when as a child you wished for something as undeniable as a broken bone – something that others could see as clearly, unequivocally, abuse.
This shit TM is doing to his daughter – I can’t imagine experiencing this from my mom on a world stage, in a public forum. But part of me hopes Meghan takes comfort in the many, many people who are witnessing this abuse and validating how absolutely within her rights she is to cut him off.
I struggle still with a lot of guilt, and add my voice to those who say parents are not entitled to anything by virtue of being your parents. You don’t get to be a complete shit of a person and have a relationship with your kids.
Spot on, CarinaCat.
Oh, Meghan. My heart breaks for you, honey.
What her father is doing to her is unacceptable and she has every right to never talk to him again. Sadly, I’m sure she must feel guilty and conflicted because she loves him. But for her own sanity, she can’t let him back him. It will just be a never ending cycle of betrayal the minute he stops getting what he wants- no matter how irrational or unfair it might be.
I’m glad we are pointing out how weird all of this sounds coming from him. Thomas is infatuated with Meghan but has shown little concern or care for his older children or even his grandchildren. Meghan is the only one he puts his time and energy into and it has clearly been that way her entire life. He feels slighted because she’s not there for him to manipulate and control.As his son said, “he is needy”. Well, Thomas needs to find a girlfriend and stop expecting his daughter to fill in the role of daughter, mother, and wife to him.
He’s reaching creepy territory. Much like her ex-best friend and those home videos her parents filmed that were focused on Meghan majority of the time. Who does that much recording of someone else kid?