Karlie Kloss: ‘I’ve chosen to be with the man I love despite the complications’

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Just my opinion, but Karlie Kloss’s interviews are usually pretty boring. Karlie is smart, and she knows how to give non-committal, no-drama quotes. Even though I suspect her life is very dramatic, she efficiently maintains her completely normal-boring-girl persona in public. All that being said, I enjoyed Karlie’s new profile in Vogue. She chatted with Vogue to promote her Kode with Klossy initiative, where she’s providing scholarships, summer camps and classes to get girls into coding and science. But she talks about more than that – she chats about her engagement to Joshua Kushner, and politics and a lot of other stuff. You can read the full piece here. Some highlights:

She was a STEM girl: “I always identified myself as a girl who was good at math and science… I always thought, Well, I’m not artistic; that doesn’t come easily to me. And it’s funny that I had to learn the language of fashion because of my job, but it was hard for me.”

Her early modeling days:
“I started taking birth control, and my body became more womanly—hips and thighs appeared,” says Kloss, who went from a size 0 to a size 4/6 over the course of a year. “I started losing jobs; I wasn’t getting booked for the runway; designers stopped working with me. It felt as if my world had been turned upside down…. I’d always measured myself against Gisele—to me she was the pinnacle of modeling success—and that was not productive. That’s when I had a breakthrough: I realized it was time for me to do me, to embrace the things that make me who I am.”

How Joshua Kushner proposed: “The proposal was romantic and sweet. We spent the weekend in upstate New York, just the two of us.”

On the association with the Kushners & the Trumps: “At the end of the day, I’ve had to make decisions based on my own moral compass—forget what the public says, forget social media,” she says, neither confirming nor denying the conversion rumors. “I’ve chosen to be with the man I love despite the complications. It’s frustrating, to be honest, that the spotlight is always shifted away from my career toward my relationship. I don’t think the same happens in conversations with men.”

She wants you to know that she’s still a Democrat: Kushner has been described as a lifelong Democrat, raising hundreds of millions for Oscar, the Obamacare start-up. He also attended the March for Our Lives gun-control demonstration in Washington, D.C., with Kloss earlier this year. “Josh and I share a lot of the same liberal values that guide our lives and the things we stand for,” says Kloss, who Instagrammed about Hillary Clinton—#ImWithHer—during the last election. “We’ve really grown together personally and professionally. Josh knows that I’m just a nerdy, curious human being. I think that’s why he loves me. We have each other’s back.”

[From Vogue]

I do think Joshua is legitimately more liberal than his brother, and maybe this is some indication that the Kushner family is sort of cutting ties with Jared. I mean, I think when all is said and done, Jared is definitely going to be arrested and charged with crimes. What I always think about is… could I do that, though? If your future brother-in-law was someone like Jared Kushner, could you go through with the wedding? You can talk about how it’s just about Karlie’s love for Joshua and in an ideal world, I’m sure that would true. But… I’m not sure I could do it. I also think this is too cute by half: “It’s frustrating, to be honest, that the spotlight is always shifted away from my career toward my relationship. I don’t think the same happens in conversations with men.” Baby girl, your sister-in-law is going to be Ivanka Trump. OF COURSE WE’RE TALKING ABOUT IT.


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  1. Maya Memsaab says:

    Not to be *that* person, but it says “her engagement to Jared Kushner” in the first paragraph.

  2. hindulovegod says:

    It’s the company you keep, Karlie. And she’s spent plenty of time being photographed and socializing with Ivanka, Jared, Wendi Deng, and shady oligarchs. She’s lying to herself if she thinks Josh isn’t involved in at least some of the illegal side of the family business.

    • someone says:

      They all hang together. Even the Obamas and Clintons hang out with the same crowd.. Whatever the politicians and elite portray to us, behind the scenes they are all chummy and help each other.

      • Spicecake38 says:

        Thank you for this I strongly agree-The elite of our world (maybe minus like 1%)are about money,money,more money.Dems are saying the right things ,right now,and people can see the Republican Party are for the money as usual,but at the end of the day *just two horns on the same goat*

      • Clover says:

        Highly respected historian Carroll Quigley, a mentor of Bill Clinton, documented, with direct access to these people, that there’s a cabal that runs the world from behind the scenes. Every president-elect gets The Talk before the inauguration. It’s about money, power, and the status quo for their vision of how the world should be run.

    • philo says:

      I started reading Fear and as just an ordinary person, I think it’s easy to forget just how much of a show all the party politics are. In the beginning of the book, Woodward mentions about how one of Trump’s problems is that he donated far more to Democrats than he ever did Republicans. (he says it’s because he had to grease Dem wheels that ran big cities) And at a crisis point in the Trump campaign, Ivanka and Jared are on David Geffen(D) boat off of Croatia with Wendy Deng. These people don’t care about whether they are Dems or Republicans – all they care about it is money. In Trump’s case- he’s also a narcissist so he can’t help but be interested in getting attention – hence the Presidency – but so far it’s also shockingly allowing him to make money so he’s happy. If the Presidency ever did start to actually cost him real $$, I’d bet my house that he’d be out of there so fast your head would spin.

      • C says:

        Yes yes YES! I’ve been saying this all along. Stop all of us 99% fighting amongst ourselves! That’s exactly what these assholes want so they can continue they’re obscene bullshit while we’re busy fighting over scraps. Get out and vote. There is hope, I genuinely believe. We have access to technology and the world in a way we’ve never had in the past so it’s easier to expose these people for what they are. We’re literally living it. Hopefully this insanity is just them grasping and we’ll head in the right direction again soon. I mean, there are still people alive and voting who lived during the civil rights movement. It’s crazy to us, but this just wasn’t that long ago, ya know?

  3. Digital Unicorn says:

    She def got the hotter Kushner brother.

  4. Lucy says:

    Josh Kushner was involved in shady dealings with Qatari government.

    The entire Kushner family ain’t shit. https://theintercept.com/2018/03/23/joshua-kushner-met-with-government-of-qatar-to-discuss-financing-in-the-same-week-father-charles-kushner-did/

    • adastraperaspera says:

      Exactly. The Kushner family is well known for being into shady dealings, including Josh’s sister going over to China to sell visas to wealthy investors last year. Karlie has to know all this and not care.

  5. Sash says:

    How lovely she considers criminals who are dismantling democracy and committing human rights violations upon POC to be “complications” to her love. It actually says a lot about her moral integrity.

    • hindulovegod says:

      Thank you! How are these not deal-breakers?

    • Esmom says:

      Yeah, I sense that she’s doing some heavy duty mental gymnastics to justify her proximity to the rest of the Kushners and the Trumps. I’m not sure it’s possible to remain neutral or untainted by her connections to such sketchy people.

      • Indiana Joanna says:

        Agree. This seems like a pre-emptive statement to justify her relationship that has always had very close ties to drump, his awful family and his cruel bigoted policies. She has always socialized with them and most likely takes advantage of any WH perks that Joshua enjoys thanks to this nightmare presidency.

        At any rate, she seems perfect for one of the entitled, opportunistic Kushner’s brothers. I don’t find her very interesting.

    • Clare says:

      Right? There is no ‘cutting off’ going on – Ivanka posted a ‘omg new sister!’ post on instagram to celebrate their engagement for f’s sake.

      I mean, I sort of believe she and Joshua are left leaning, but they are def not cutting any ties. Apparently this moral compass she speaks of doesn’t steer her away from complicit barbie.

      • Alissa says:

        My brother-in-law is a conservative hardcore Republican with a picture of Donald Trump on his fridge, and my mother-in-law is a pastor who refuses to marry gay people because she thinks it’s a sin, but I guess I shouldn’t have married my husband who doesn’t believe any of those things because of his family.

        What a ridiculous argument. They’ve proven over and over again to support liberal causes but because his family isn’t great she shouldn’t be with him?

    • Queenb says:

      Yes! If Josh Kushner had one racist uncle I wouldnt expect her to dump Josh for that but its really way different.

    • Enormous Coat says:

      I know. I read the headline and my first thought was “Oh Karlie, you’re so brave.” Maybe that’s unfair, but there does seem to be a lack of awareness to her words, especially when she attempts to shift the dialogue to sexism. Your soon to be BIL and SIL are coddling a monster and complicit in every single one of the horrors and atrocities of this administration. That’s not a complication, it’s a fact. You can’t re-package that.

    • mrs.odie says:

      I agree! And the wives of all these shady men being indicted left and right at some point in their 20s also thought they’d ignore the complications and go with their hearts (which is a misnomer because it’s just a chemical seratonin dopamine dump in your brain that makes you think love is forevah). Now, they’re dealing with lawyers and jail time and destroyed reputations.

      And girl, he doesn’t love you because you’re “curious.” Look in a mirror and read up on narcissistic men.

    • virginfangirl says:

      I remember reading a post that said something like “If there are 9 people sitting at your table, and one of them is a Nazi, there are 9 Nazi’s sitting at your table.”

  6. Indiana Joanna says:

    Yuck. For all their advantages, those Kushner’s boys are two of the dumbest, greediest slimeballs around. Both got into Harvard through their father’s million dollars donation. They admit they were very poor students. When they posed post 45 election in front of JFK’s WH portrait it irritated me.

    I’m not impressed with Karly. And I’m betting she and Grifter Ivanka are close friends. Says everything to me.

  7. It’sJustBlanche says:

    He looks like he’s 12. And a snake. Just like the rest of him. And I’m not buying her “smart, nerdy girl” vibe.

    • Esmom says:

      I laughed at how she seems to think that “being good at math and science” vs not liking art in high school puts her in the STEM field.

      • GreenTurtle says:

        It was in the context of looking at what she likes/doesn’t like and where her strengths/weaknesses are. She was in high school and trying to figure herself out. 16 year olds aren’t always that deep, which is fine. She’s doing a lot of good with her scholarships and summer classes, so regardless of how she does or doesn’t brand herself, she’s helping disadvantaged girls.

      • Genessee says:

        The woman is fluent in Python (and a few frameworks) to the point that if she left modeling she could work as a programmer professionally as a backend developer. That’s good enough for me. A CS degree isnt really needed in tech anymore anyway.

  8. SD says:

    I spot a your not you’re moment, after the interview quotes: “If you’re future brother-in-law was someone like Jared Kushner..”

  9. OSTONE says:

    I would understand if the “complications” would be loving someone who has a conservative family or racist relatives for us regular folks. However, Josh may be more “liberal” but he is a grifter just as his brother Tom Marvolo Riddle and his father. Karlie hangs out willingly with Wendi Dench, Dasha Zhukova et al, so she knows what she is doing and what she is getting into, she can have a stadium full of seats.

  10. Queenb says:

    “I always identified myself as a girl who was good at math and science”
    Uhm are you good at these things or do just “identify” yourself as being interested? Like so many white women identify as feminist but…

    Her boyfriend is still shady. Even without the Trump connection. Why does she like hanging out with Wendi Deng, too? Seems like she really has her own moral compass.

    Also is she really going to NYU? There are a lot of rumours its all for show.

    • BigGirl says:

      I identify as a Math and Science. .. usually it is teachers or CAT testing that was used to place kids in STEM. Not defending the practice, but something is off. I’m curious about the birth control stuff, KK just drops it into conversation. Not all women put on weight as a result of BC. Why didn’t she opt for non-hormal forms?

      • Clover says:

        She’s trying to “explain” her recent boob implants.

      • Alissa says:

        Non-hormonal options aren’t options for every woman. I can’t have non-hormonal birth control because otherwise I bleed like a stuck pig and my cramps are so bad they make me pass out. Maybe she didn’t feel like explaining that.

        @Clover She wasn’t talking about recently, so I don’t think so. But nice try.

    • AnnaKist says:

      Mmm, my conclusion is that she’s full of merda.

  11. Cate says:

    Yeah, this is not like Maria Shriver marrying Arnold. Kushner’s dad went to jail, his brother is likely engaged in criminal activities, and Josh does not seem to be seriously cutting ties with the family. I don’t want to say Karlie is “complicit” just yet, but she’s getting fucking close.

    • Desolee says:

      Not her fan or anything but genuinely asking, how would it help for her BF to cut ties with his family? Why does it matter? The only things that should matter to me is his actual deeds not his siblings or his dad. I don’t see it as logical to assume she will get much privilege from this association if her BILis the one connected and he’s probably going to be arrested? It’s not like trump is known for being generous at least not at this point. And 45 is petty and she’s a public Hilary supporter. Sounds like she thinks he is different than his awful family, not too unreasonable imo

      • Catarina says:

        I agree w you, Desolee. People’s father in laws and brother in laws are NOT automatically similar to the person you marry, at all. My husband’s father was in jail for 12 years for a felony, his brother is serving time currently–and my husband (their son/brother) is a Yale law school graduate. He has nothing to do with his father and sibling, only their mother, and I would NEVER hold someone’s relatives against them. I think people just dislike (understandably) Jared and Ivanka Kushner (and of course 45) so much, they figure Carly must be just like them, b/c why not: she also already has both white and beauty privilege. But to me this is jumping too fast to conclusions and judgment and condemnation. Things aren’t always what some automatically assume.

      • Desolee says:

        Agreed. And even if your husband did choose to see them sometimes I don’t think that would make him a bad guy, no matter what their crimes were.

  12. jessamine says:

    Are someone’s relatives — or in this case their siblings’ inlaws– really absolute deal breakers/arbiters of a an individual’s character and morals, though? On this board many of us have shared stories of the toxic, abusive, criminal, and damaging family members in our lives and found the support we desperately needed. Are we all now saying we are unworthy of love and more importantly our own moral judgement and accomplishments because of these people?

    Josh Kushner might be as corrupt as the rest of his family but let’s happily and snarkily judge him and Karlie based on that, not their Trump-adjacency.

    • minx says:

      I agree with this.

    • Franny Days says:

      I agree with this as well. My husbands brothers while not criminals are completely different from my husband, they hardly act like siblings. Even if my husband’s brothers were criminals I would still love my husband because he is not. It will be hard for Karlie because the family comes with marriage but if they love each other and just focus on their relationship then they will be fine.

    • Millenial says:

      Agreed Jessamine. My sister in law is a MAGA hat wearing Trump lover. I can’t do much about it.

      If we are going to judge Karlie, let it be cor Josh alone (whom others have stated is shady enough on his own). He can’t help his extended family is deplorables.

    • Clare says:

      while I agree with you in principle – there are two key differences.

      1. Our criminal relatives aren’t (I hope!) systematically destroying millions of lives
      2. We don’t have the social capital that Kloss has
      3. Most of us acknowledge (again, I think!) that our relatives are shitty and try and steer clear, rather than making public statements about our wonderful moral compass, while having brunch with Wendi Deng and sister-love with Ivanka Trump

      While I guess I can’t blame her for falling for someone related to Jared Kushner, I certainly side eye her for trying to underplay the connection, and also for maintaining friendships with criminals and kids/wives/partners of criminals. She has the platform to say ‘these people are shitty, I love Josh but I want nothing to do with Jared and his ilk…’ instead she’s playing sister-sister with Ivanka. It’s true that you can’t choose your family – but you CAN choose how you use your own platform as well as your friends, and she has done a shitty job of both IMO.

    • Queenb says:

      To me having relatives that put children in cages casts rather a gloom over family gatherings.

    • Natalie S says:

      We can’t change our relations but if someone’s fiance and friends are associated with shady people and shady activities, how likely is it that the person isn’t also shady? We can’t help our relatives but I have no sympathy for mob wives.

      • jessamine says:

        She’s not marrying Don Jr., though … and while the Kushner family is a nuclear winter cloud worth of financial shadiness there is several orders of magnitude difference between “profits from sketchball trading” and “fascist, racist child-cager.”

      • Natalie S says:

        I don’t need to lower the bar all the way to the Trump family to judge the Kushner family. And do you really believe the Kushner family has not profited from being associated with the Trumps? Also the father is shady as well and Josh chooses to stay with the business.

  13. Whatever Gurl says:

    All that family wealth $$$$$$$$$=Complications!

    How can she say no?

    And the fact that she chooses Wendi Deng Murdoch, the most obnoxious social climber ever……..

    It’s all about the money. Money. Money.

  14. Squirrelgirl says:

    Look, you can’t choose your family… Just ask Meghan Markle. But that being said… I think Josh is an entitled and privileged slimeball. He may swing more left when it comes to politics, but that doesn’t mean that he is a great guy. He is also not cut off from Jared and Ivanka. Besides going to a few protests for softball issues, has he even pubclicly denounced them?

    • Clare says:

      You cannot choose your family, but you CAN choose the relationships you maintain with them. You can also choose your friends – and one look at Kloss’s friends tells me all I need to know about her. No amount of ‘I’m a liberal!’ changes the fact that she is pals with Wendi Deng etc.

  15. BigGirl says:

    We forget that the wedding will be profiled in Vogue with JAvanka featured prominently . It will help with the entree back in NYC society!

    • Jan90067 says:

      I imagine a scene from “The Unsinkable Molly Brown”… They may get in the door, but there still will not be any “acceptance”. At least, not the kind they crave.

  16. Renee2 says:

    Something just occurred to me, Stephen Miller has had family members and his former rabbi call him out. Apart from Natalie Portman, which former associates have called out Jared Kushner???

    • Hoopjumper says:

      I believe a large portion of his class at NYU Law sent him an open letter. I assume private discussions are more effective than public denunciations, so I am naively hopeful that there have been some of those, too, we just haven’t heard about them.

  17. Louise177 says:

    Sorry but I can’t imagine ending what I assume is a great relationship because of some family members. I’m positive they have been dating long before Trump announced running. Jared and Ivanka were probably just random people she associated with. After Trump became President and Ivanka and Jared became such awful people, I still wouldn’t end the relationship. They probably don’t hang out together since they’re in DC. If everybody ended their relationship over one or two family members, nobody would be together. Should Prince Henry divorce Megan because of the Markles?

  18. JRenee says:

    I think the Kushners are all shady to some degree..

  19. Electric Tuba says:

    Kushners and Trumps were always known as mobbed up slumlord crooks in NYC and when an entire state tells the world this information it might pay to listen, Americans who voted for our present hell.

    Yeah good luck with your wedding and your friendship with white nationalist Barbie and the disgusting industry you work in. Real mother Teresa this one. *eyes roll out of my head* A love story for the times! Such romance. A true message of tolerance and overcoming obstacles hahaha

  20. artistsnow says:

    I don’t get this couple. They ‘look’ the part. but I smell a beard.

  21. Derriere says:

    I won’t judge Karlie for the “misdeeds” on her in-laws. But here fiancé has the personal wealth to distance himself from the family business of grifting. If he’s not willing to do that to clean up his image, Karlie better be ready to get some dirt on herself by association. So yes, I will keep side-eyeing this relationship. At least she’s trying to do some good on her end.

  22. A says:

    It’s not about Democrat or Republican though. These are the Kushners we’re talking about. The “Hired A Hooker To Ambush My BIL” Kushners. The “Convicted Felon” Kushners. The “Grew Up With And Is Close Family Friends With Bibi Netanyahu” Kushners.

    I’m not suggesting that we paint Joshua with the sins of his father and brother. But having “liberal values” is starting to mean very little in this world when your guiding principle was, and always remains, money. Karlie Kloss is in love with him, and I’m sure they share a lot of the similar values. And I’m glad Joshua Kushner doesn’t support Trump. But being a liberal is no longer enough of a bulwark against the problems this world is up against.

    • Xi Tang says:

      Speaking of bibi, aren’t the kushners financing settlements on stolen Palestinian land as well?

    • Rescue Cat says:

      ‘But having “liberal values” is starting to mean very little in this world when your guiding principle was, and always remains, money.’

      I agree.

    • Clover says:

      Well said, A.

    • Derriere says:

      Establishment Democrats are starting to learn that the hard way. Being a Democrat isn’t enough anymore. Democrats were content with compromising for “moderate” policies that are now more conservative in substance as each passing election cycle gives us more extreme right Republicans…

      They have done as much harm by being complicit, by staying friends and doing business with those who are also doing more harm to society as a whole. Like I said above, I’m glad Karlie is trying to do some good with her coding initiative, but is it really enough to outweigh all the shady deals of her boyfriend, his family, her future family-in-law, and their friends? Nah.

  23. Clover says:

    LOL, Jared and Ivanka are also Democrats, please! Anyway, as for her “womanly figure,” I’m sure the new implants helped out with that. She got them done fairly recently.

    • Derriere says:

      I’m also trying to figure out the timeline on when she got that womanly figure and when her modeling jobs started to dry up…She has consistently worked on and off the runway for years.

  24. BANANIE says:

    I wonder what Karlie looked like before. She doesn’t really look “womanly” to me. Especially in that too-tight purple dress. She’s lovely but I’m not sure when I look at her I see “thighs and hips.”

  25. Justwastingtime says:

    Josh and his sister are running the family firm which is being investigated for everything from unethical treatment of tenants in New Jersey to peddling jared’s Influence to get loans from Saudi Arabia to eB5 violations .. 30 minutes on google would tell her why she shouldn’t marry the guy.. unless she wants to visit him in the slammer someday…

  26. MoGrianach says:

    If your partner doesn’t share the repellent views on others in their family why on earth would you hold it against them? She’s marrying him not his brother and not her partners, brothers’ father in law.

  27. Cay says:

    Best advice I ever received? “You aren’t just marrying him, you’re marrying his family.”