How shocking, Brett Kavanaugh was an angry, violent drunk in college too

U.S. Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh testifies at Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington

On Friday, Donald Trump authorized another FBI investigation into Brett Kavanaugh. I think the investigation still falls under the “background check” umbrella, and I’ve been thinking a lot about FBI background checks and who the FBI speaks to when they’re conducting them. I’ve given statements, over the phone, to the FBI as part of someone else’s background check, and honestly, it’s not like those checks are the most thorough and detailed things in the world. My point is that Kavanaugh made such a big deal about how many background checks he’s gone through before, but my guess is that most of those checks were just Kavanaugh providing a list of references to the FBI and the FBI calling those people. But all bets are off – as they should be – when it comes to the background check for a Supreme Court justice.

The Washington Post had a lengthy rundown of all of the different and contradictory information about this new FBI investigation and whether the White House has really set strict limits on the FBI and who they can interview. You can read the full WaPo article here – there’s some new information about how Kavanaugh lied his ass off about being an aggressive drunk:

Charles Ludington, a former varsity basketball player and friend of Kavanaugh’s at Yale, told The Washington Post on Sunday that he plans to deliver a statement to the FBI field office in Raleigh on Monday detailing violent drunken behavior by Kavanaugh in college. Ludington, an associate professor at North Carolina State University, provided a copy of the statement to The Post.

In it, Ludington says in one instance, Kavanaugh initiated a fight that led to the arrest of a mutual friend: “When Brett got drunk, he was often belligerent and aggressive. On one of the last occasions I purposely socialized with Brett, I witnessed him respond to a semi-hostile remark, not by defusing the situation, but by throwing his beer in the man’s face and starting a fight that ended with one of our mutual friends in jail.”

Ludington says he was deeply troubled by Kavanaugh appearing to blatantly mischaracterize his drinking in Senate testimony.

“I do not believe that the heavy drinking or even loutish behavior of an 18 or even 21 year old should condemn a person for the rest of his life,” Ludington wrote. “However … if he lied about his past actions on national television, and more especially while speaking under oath in front of the United States Senate, I believe those lies should have consequences.”

[From The Washington Post]

This is what kills me a little bit: Kavanaugh lied so much about so many things, big and small. He lied about HIS YEARBOOK ENTRIES. He lied about how much he drank in high school. He clearly lied about his behavior while drinking. Because of his lies about drinking specifically, the Senate hearing became more like an intervention than an actual attempt to figure out if he tried to rape someone. Also: I still have questions about his behavior at the hearing, and whether he was stone-cold sober. I don’t think he was. I think he had been drinking BEFORE the hearing.

U.S. Supreme Court nominee Kavanaugh testifies before a Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington

U.S. Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh testifies at Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington

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  1. Maria says:

    That glass of water on the table? Maybe it wasn’t water but vodka!

    • Kitten says:

      Didn’t you hear? He drinks BEER. He likes BEER.

    • Beth says:

      The more he gulped that, the louder and angrier he ranted and raved. Vodka would be easier than beer in court, because vodka has no scent

    • Raina says:

      Ah but was it AMERICAN vodka? These are the questions the American decision makers, i.e. old half dead white men, need to know before rendering a decision.
      This guy is such a brah. I half expected him to high five Lindsay Graham over the table. He had a tremendously (sorry, orange man, the rest of us can use this word, too) arrogant, entitled, drunk bloated face. If Ego was capable of actualizing into a human frat bro form, this would be it. He had all the charm of a broken down Chevy parked on the front lawn of a trailer. Do Republicans, evil as they are, really wanna die on this hill??
      It’s because they don’t wanna admit they’re wrong yet AGAIN. It’s uncanny how they’re literally only attracted to the worst kind of people. Then again, to be a legitimate Republican, you aren’t much in way of many good qualities.
      To think: THIS douche faced walking beer bottle can possibly be allowed to make decisions that affects millions??
      THIS chronically inebriated analll cavity will be part of the highest court in the land??
      Yep. Die on that hill, Republicans. And rot there.
      I pray ALL Republicans are stuck together on one island. They’ll make the Lord of the Flies look like the Brady Bunch.

  2. Digital Unicorn says:

    I think it will be his lies about his drinking (past and present) that will get him, not the sexual assault allegations. He’s a nasty abusive drunk, who lied repeatedly about his drinking and those ‘terms’ wrote in his yearbook. That calendar and the yearbook are not testaments to his truth – they are proof of his guilt.

    I’m not sure if he was drunk before the hearing but alcoholics who have often been forced to endure a dry period often behave like this – his desperation for a drink was, to me, one of the main reason he was so unhinged emotionally.

    • Desolee says:

      That wouldbe nice but I have no idea how it could be proven ?

    • Miss Margo says:

      I agree. The fact that he is trying to be a supreme Court Justice is absolutely laughable. His unprofessional, embarrassing behavior that we saw the other day is probably because he is an alcholholic. And I believe he legit doesn’t remember because he probably gets black out drunk.

      My dad drank my whole life and was a real SOB. He still to this day doesn’t understand why me and my brother don’t talk to him because he doesn’t remember what he did while he drank….

      • Esmom says:

        I think his behavior on Thurs could be attributed to his alcohol abuse but I also think it’s because he’s arrogant and entitled and angry that he has to answer for ANYTHING for he first time in his life. He cannot cope with being held accountable for something, and that’s probably exacerbated by his drinking habits. I don’t know that he was drunk on Thurs as much as he wished he was!

        And I hope his former friend provides all the solid evidence they need to prove the incident he described happened. I laughed when he said it was the last time he “purposely” socialized with BK. Seems like people went out of their way to avoid him eventually.

      • Kitten says:

        I think so too, Esmom. Although when we were watching him, the first thing my BF said was “Is he DRUNK? He’s drunk right now, isn’t he??”

        I think he’s probably an alcoholic but I tend to believe he was sober at the hearing–he’s belligerent with or without booze.

      • Vava says:

        I think he was putting on a show of force to impress Trump. Obviously Trump is easily impressed by that sort of behavior. A STATESMAN in the position of President of the United States would ask Kavanaugh to step away from the nomination.

    • notthisagain says:

      Whilst the sexual assault charges are very serious and important. This is in essence a job interview not a criminal court and these allegations were brought to the fore as they speak to his fitness for the job.
      Regardless of what further investigations reveal,Kavanaugh has already shown that he does not have the temperament and character to sit on the Supreme Court.Evasiveness, lying , partisan rage, rudeness bad attitude and disrespect for due process (as if he is above it all/entitled to the position)

      I have never seen a candidate for the SCOTUS act in such a manner much less any interviewee for any job. I wonder if he would allow any one (even someone who felt they were wrongfully accused) to behave in his court they way he has behaved during these proceedings ?

      IMO Kavanaugh showed us who he was from Day 1 with the contempt he showed to the father of the slain Parkland teen

      • Natalia says:


      • Vava says:

        ^ DOUBLE THIS.

      • tealily says:

        Not to mention his statement about the Clintons, etc. He sat down and IMMEDIATELY showed himself to be completely partisan. (In addition to aggressive, angry, and unpleasant, which don’t preclude him from the job but sure don’t reflect well given the allegations he’s facing.)

      • Lady2Lazy says:

        Absolutely. He showed his true colors and if the GOP couldn’t see it, they are all color blind. I read this morning that Drumpf lit into Mitchell about allowing this to get away from him. Now Mitchell states that a vote will be held on Friday.
        In addition, since Drumpf and the GOP placed parametters on FBI, it clearly is a con job.

  3. LahdidahBaby says:

    His behavior and comportment at the hearing should rightfully be seen as the evidence of the temperament issue that it most certainly is. He does not have the temperament—or the character, in my opinion—to receive a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land. And if he is made a justice of the United States Supreme Court, I will see it as equal in its dreadful implications and its infamy to the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States. And maybe even worse, in the sense that unlike the office of POTUS, it’s a lifetime appontment that could compromise the course of justice in our country for at least the next two generations.

    • Esmom says:

      Yes. And yet the right seems insistent that this is only about the Ford allegations. No mention of temperament except that he was “justifiably angry” at being “falsely accused.” Clearly they are afraid to acknowledge any issue beyond a single event because so much is obviously damning.

  4. Scal says:

    Someone on NPR pointed out that his cheeks got more and more red as the hearing proceeded, and that he took a random 15 minute break on top of the scheduled ones. It would not surprise me at all if it came out later that he was drinking while testifying.

    Or in a rage withdrawl.

  5. Justwastingtime says:

    I am not sure whether he was drinking or poorly executing an “angry” script to make him look tough..

    Either way I keep on thinking about this, flip this around and imagine anyone in a job interview for any job behaving like. Over early, if not escorted out by security.

  6. Jenns says:

    And despite all of this–the sexual assault allegations, the lies, the unfit temperament–I still think he’ll be confirmed.

    • Agenbiter says:

      I’m betting he won’t be, but not for important substantive reasons like support for torture or disregard for women’s bodily autonomy.

      They’ll go back to central casting for someone more superficially appealing, like pretty-boy Roberts.

      • B n A fn says:

        I believe he’ll be rejected for all the lies he told during the hearing, jmo. I heard the dotard is mad as hell with Mitch for not getting him through last week. # 45 does not care about the lies and boozing he wants him in to cover him when Mr Mueller’s report comes out.

      • Sara says:

        It doesn’t matter. The Republicans do not care. They know they’re at likely risk of losing in November and they have to jam a conservative judge through before then.

  7. Veronica S. says:

    This is why I keep saying people are misplacing their sentiments to give Flake and co. any credit for the FBI background check. It was evident to anybody with five brains cells and a functioning sense of humanity that this man is an aggressive liar and completely unfit for a SC position. Even outside of the women and their accusations of sexual assault, you have classmates outright stating he’s lied about his behavior and statements back then, you have professors talking about his “predilection” for certain types of female associates. The guy is a scuzzball. He got to where he was because he was a white man with the right connections, not because he’s exceptionally talented or competent. The time to act was at the confirmation vote, not now. This is just a farce at this point and one that will destroy most decent people’s trust in the last federal institution in America…which was probably Trump’s intent all along.

  8. Desolee says:

    If all they want is a conservative judge is it really that hard to find someone highup who has no criminal history and communicates in a more elegant manner

    • me46 says:

      They want him because Kavanaugh doesn’t believe a sitting POTUS can be indicted. He’s trump’s last hope to stop Mueller.

      • philo says:

        Just curious – how do they know that? Is this his various Nixon prevarications? And didn’t he have a hand in the Starr investigation against Clinton? Doesn’t that kind of shoot him in the foot right there? I guess there is nothing at all from stopping him from making the completely opposite decision for a Republican president – but doesn’t that very flip-floppiness kind of make him unfit?

      • Original T.C. says:

        It’s not a secret, there is a video of him speaking at a Federalist Society meeting. It came out right before Trump chose his candidate. He was one of the few who took the stand that a President should not face prosecution. He claimed to have reversed his stance after the Clinton impeachment. So Trump was given a list of conservative judges to pick from, they were all the same *except* only Kavanaugh would protect Trump from Muller.

        It’s a win-win. A judge to overturn Row for his fanbase and a free get out of jail card for him.

      • Desolee says:

        Oh that’s right oops
        That would really suck… hopefully enough GOP will vote against him

      • Sara says:

        Here’s my question though: wouldn’t the rest of the conservative judges on the SC have to agree with him? I want to have faith that they wouldn’t and that Trump is truly such a moron for thinking that putting just one judge who thinks that on the SC will save him from justice.

    • notasugarhere says:

      They want an extremist confirmed on the Court before the possible blue and/or pink wave in November.

  9. jessamine says:

    What I cannot understand is how ANYONE after watching this blustering disgrace (which Matt Damon nailed, actually) could think this man has the temperament to sit on the SC. Even if you are an Old White Guy Prep School Yaley who doesn’t consider hard-partying college rage-drinking to be a character flaw or non-penetrative sexual assault to be rape because we’ve-all-been-there-amirite, how can you look at this flailing, thin-skinned, beet-faced, baldfaced liar and go “Yup, this is the best we can. Robe him up!”

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Watching the Republican non response confirmed for me that they want a rabid, driven partisan on the court. Lindsey Graham spoke for all of them. Flake spoke about “process” but not lies and temperament, at least in his main statement.

      The Republican party is a terrorist organization seeking to frighten people for political purposes.

      • Esmom says:

        Actually, Flake said on 60 minutes that if it’s proven that Kavanaugh lied, that he should not be confirmed. That shocked me a little bit, I thought he’d try to deflect but he didn’t.

      • Veronica S. says:

        There’s plenty to suggest already that he has. We’ll see if Flake has any backbone to his statement at the vote. He’s probably praying Kavanaugh backs out so he isn’t actually called to task on it.

      • philo says:

        But how do you prove he lied? I don’t really remember him giving a single answer that had the quality of being disproven. I don’t remember any of the committee even bothering to ask questions that forced him to answer any such question. It was mostly ‘Its about farting’ and ‘that’s a drinking game’.

      • Dara says:

        @Esmon, that was the one glimmer of hope in a truly horrific week. Still, until Flake actually breaks with his party and does something truly courageous, I’m rolling my eyes at the deliberate campaign to sell him to the American people as the only Republican with a conscience. Talk to me when he actually votes against Kavanaugh. Up to now, Flake has done the absolute minimum required to not be considered a monster, unlike his fellow Republicans, and keep his presidential hopes alive. Oh, and the fact that he doesn’t consider sexual assault a hard no, but instead draws the line at telling lies, doesn’t really let him off the hook in my book.

      • Kitten says:

        Flake is in Boston today. My BF is at City Hall with Ayanna Presley, Ed Markey, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez etc, protesting Kavanaugh’s appointment.
        My BF just sent me a pic of a sign that said “Nominate Anita”.

      • Esmom says:

        philo, he said he had no connections at Yale but the truth is his grandfather went there. And I agree that while we know he spewed a lot of BS, like the yearbook references were innocuous and not references to drinking or sex, a lot of things can’t really be proven. It’s more that the general picture he painted of himself as a good boy who only drank on weekends and rarely to excess or blackout can be refuted by a number of people who knew him. Not sure what’s technically perjury and what is just an indication of someone dishonest and partisan. Also it seems like the whole blaming this on the Clintons would give the senators pause. In a normal world.

      • Original T.C. says:

        Flake has no chance of running for President as a Republican. He’s not seeking re-election because the polls show he would fail badly. His conservative voting record doesn’t matter to the GOP, his speaking out against Trump and his party has sealed his fate. If he can’t be re-elected to Congress how is he going to make it as a candidate for President? He would have to run as an independent.

      • jessamine says:

        A rabid, misogynist, anti-choice partisan for sure but why are they so ride-or-die for this sweaty, fratty one?

      • Veronica S. says:

        philo –

        Even with all of his blustering misdirection, classmates who attended with him have flat out stated that his answers were completely false. That they soft balled him, I don’t argue, but his tells were obvious.

        But I was actually referring to the earlier hearings where he misled the panel on his involvement terror-detainee policy under Bush. That should have been an ethical red flag for anybody with a sense of decency. Transparency is the least you should be able to expect out of a SC nominee.

      • Vava says:

        If they can prove he lied about ANYTHING in his testimony to Congress, then he should be immediately removed from being a judge at the Circuit Court.

      • the other bronte sister says:

        He lied about the drinking age being 18. It was upped to 21 when he was 17, and no beer-loving douchebro would have been ignorant of that inconvenient change in law. Here’s a list of his lies:

  10. Who ARE these people? says:

    The Republican Party wants to confirm him not in spite of his history and obviously poor character, but because of them. They want us to know they can do whatever they want with their power and they want to destroy trust in the last possible protector of the democratic system. This of course serves Putin’s purposes as well, by destabilizing the American republic further.

    Nothing is “bad enough” for these people so it’s not about getting them to care. These are the same people that came out of the Bush torture apparatus. They have to be removed from power through the overwhelming force of voting. If Americans can’t manage that heaven help the country because that what leads to violent revolution.

    • Becks1 says:

      And also – people keep saying “why don’t they find another conservative judge.” because Trump wants THIS one. Trump wants the one who is likely to rule in favor of executive power, who is likely to get him and his family off the hook. This is all about putting someone on the bench who will protect the Republicans from Mueller and the FBI and any other federal investigation.

      I honestly think these Republicans all believe Dr. Ford. They know Kavanaugh did it. They just don’t care.

      • noway says:

        Aside from Trump putting a supreme court justice in his pocket, they also have a time issue. While yes they could most likely get another nominee through before a new congress is seated, a congress which might not be so friendly. They then add to the hypocritical part with putting a supreme court justice on when the congress is changing, seems worse than waiting a year for an election. Some of the few middle of the road republicans might not vote for that. So it would make it more difficult to get the nominee in.

      • Puravidacostarica says:

        I think it’s because there is a case that will be heard by the Supreme Court this term (Gamble v. US) and IMO Kavanaugh has already been well compensated for what his ruling would be. What about the $200,000 plus in debt that mysteriously went away? Why aren’t they investigating THAT?

    • Kitten says:

      So much this. It’s just so infuriating.

    • Original T.C. says:

      They want money and power, everything else is salad dressing. Kavanagh can help overturn Roe—leading the GOP voters happy and keeping them in power.

      With another conservative on the court like Kavanagh, rulings like Citizens United will be the rule, so corporations will take over rights over citizens, the GOP will have pockets filled with $$$$ Kavanagh is also bought and paid for by the NRA.

  11. SJhere says:

    His behaviour was so out of control at this hearing. I saw just a few minutes of it and he is not qualified to be on SCOTUS. My word, he’s certainly not able to control his temper or make reasonable statements, he was practically spitting with anger.
    How is this not over and done with yet?
    SCOTUS…meant to be in place as a body of intelligent, versed in law, rational thinking, group.
    He is not any of that!
    Every f’ing day it’s a bad, low rent, high school drama in every respect.

  12. Janet says:

    Hopefully this wakes everyone up enough to realize that there need to be term limits for the Supreme Court, because what on earth is up with America thinking this is a good idea? Any of it?

  13. Eric says:

    It would lovely if Mr Mueller dropped an indictment on Jared and Jr this week.

  14. keroppi says:

    I didn’t watch the whole hearing, but I’m surprised no one asked him if he had been drinking that day or was drunk during the hearing.

    I was so shocked at his behaviour. He obviously believes that no matter what he will get voted in, so he could behave any way that he pleased. When you look at the photo stills, the look of disgust on his face is incredibly telling.

  15. Darla says:

    My mom insists he was drunk at the hearing too. She was married to an alcoholic and says she can always tell, period. I mean, she says it that way. She’s certain of it. lol. And she could be right, I don’t know.

    • Esmom says:

      That’s interesting. The mayor of a town I lived was often drunk at city council meetings — he had the same red-tinged complexion as Kavanaugh. But he would slur his words, sometimes to the point of sounding incoherent. Kavanaugh seemed much more in control than that, as to of control as he was. I often wondered why our mayor was never called out for this. Plenty of whispering behind his back but never any confrontation. I think people were trying to be polite.

    • Kelly says:

      That wouldn’t be too shocking if he was drunk then. The other scenario is that this is him trying to not drink and he’s even more belligerent than usual.

      I also have multiple people in my family with alcohol control issues. Multiple people in my family are alcoholics that refuse to admit they are. They’ve always drank and for years it was a tradition for some of them to be drunk by noon during family holiday celebrations. They were usually too drunk by early evening to do any clean up. One aunt is truly an awful cook that manages to ruin the Thanksgiving turkey, partially because she’s already started on a bottle of wine during the meal prep in the morning.

      The one incident that stands out was a couple years ago when my cousin who was going through marital difficulties at the time got really sloppy, crying drunk at a family Xmas celebration. It didn’t help that her sisters were still giving her fully loaded Old Fashioneds, instead of a placebo of Sprite and cherries. My father who is the only one of his siblings who doesn’t drink really had his eyes opened because both my mother and I had been telling him for years that there was a drinking problem in his family.

    • CheckThatPrivilege says:

      I wonder what this nasty piece of work is like at home when nobody outside the immediate family is watching.

    • laura-j says:

      I too have been married to a drunk, I kept looking at his wife’s face in the background, she told it all, this is still the norm in their house. I’ve had that look in my eyes many many times.

  16. Nilo says:

    I’m in Europe (Germany) and watched parts of the hearing via a news page.
    It was vile, he came across like a petulant, angry child, and his facial expressions were just gross. What a soap opera.
    His entire demeanour was not in any way dignified like it would befit a (hopefully not future) judge but aggressive, belittling and openly partisan. Are not judges obliged to be neutral?

    • Kitten says:

      Just remember that we elected Trump. In America, there is nothing wrong with elected officials–senators, Congress people, SCOTUS judges–acting unhinged. Some might argue that it’s actually a selling point, particularly if you’re a white dude. Sigh.

      • Nilo says:

        Here in Germany, there were people elected you wouldn’t want to meet in the dark, either. Democracy is fun!

      • Alexis says:

        Correction, to be clear: being a blustry creep is a selling point if and ONLY if you’re a straight white Republican man.

      • sunshine cookie says:

        @ Nilo

        I can confirm that. The prime min_ister of He- -ia, Mr. B., has an interesting family … usually people with severe criminal records are banned from becoming elected officials but that doesn’t seem to apply to his family …

  17. Ali says:

    I don’t think he was drunk at the hearing. I think his attitude comes from a lifetime of always being right even when you’re wrong.

    “being a judge means never having to say you’re sorry” Judge Alex Kosinski

    Kavanaugh’s former boss.

    • Christin says:

      Three people I know who have each worked in insurance for years, said that it is eye-opening to watch the court system (even for minor auto claims that require going to court).

      One lady told me that even seemingly clear cut cases can be ruled another way. if (as she said) the judge “didn’t like his cereal that morning”. I have thought of that quote multiple times since watching this guy in action. He acts above it all.

  18. Jaded says:

    Like others here I too had family members who were alcoholics. The one thing I noticed with them was that there were several stages to their inebriation. After a few drinks they became cheerful, easy-going and funny. After a few more they became belligerent, tempermental and would start lashing out at others for no apparent reason. Then when they sobered up and were dealing with alcohol withdrawal and hangovers they would get really ugly, especially if they were called on their bad behaviour. I saw all three of those stages in Kavanaugh and I wouldn’t be the least surprised if he had a fifth of vodka stashed in his briefcase for those “refreshment” breaks. His demeanour was the equivalent of a nasty tantrum-throwing toddler who’s had his toys taken away – completely inappropriate for a SC judge or anyone for that matter. Please dear God let this nightmare end.

  19. Digital Unicorn says:

    Re: the FBI investigation its all over twitter that the FBI won’t return calls of witness who can back up Ramirez’s story, many of them his former Yale classmates. Also Avenatti and his client allegedly went to their local field office and were turned away with the FBI refusing to take a statement.

    Its pretty obvious that the FBI are being hindered by that thing in the WH, he has limited the scope of the investigation and he is telling people who the can and can’t interview. I’ll bet my last pound that Judge is not interviewed because his alcoholism and recovery make his a bad witness.

    EDIT: Also if you all haven’t seen this transcript about a tel call last week with Baby Brett and the Senate Committee, read it and then send to everyone you know. There are apparently SIX women that are now known about by the committee who have made allegations and there is allegedly a rape in a car.

    • Jaded says:

      The link doesn’t work – can you re-post it? Thanks!

    • Christin says:

      This morning, a former agent said that current agents have been given specific written orders (per his sources). He seemed sure that the agents will not go outside of those apparently extremely strict limits.

      They are basically handcuffed, he believes.

    • Cate says:

      Link doesn’t work, but I believe at least one of those allegations (the one on the boat) has been shown false. There was some speculation that Republicans deliberately let news of the boat allegation out so they could then debunk it and use that as “proof” that all the claims are false.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Try copying and pasting the link into a browser.

    • Erinn says:

      Note: hopefully this is allowed – I used tiny URL to get a shortened link:

      I think the .pdf was throwing it off at the end.

  20. Cate says:

    Avenatti just tweeted a photo of Swetnick, looks like she is being interviewed in a TV setting.

  21. Moonlight says:

    Bet he’s abusive to his wife at home.

  22. Sleanne says:

    My daughter came home from grade 10 on Friday and was furious but wouldn’t talk about why. I finally got it out of her at breakfast today: her history teacher went on a rant on Friday about why no one came forward before and how he believed Kav. Her teacher is a white male, mid30s speaking to a room of teenagers. In a position of authority. My daughter said she wanted to raise her hand and speak her mind, tell him everything i taught her about consent and safety and how you have to be extra brave sometimes and it may take time to find that bravery… And she froze. She couldn’t bring herself to speak up against him. She was mad at herself and everyone else in the room. She realized the boys in her class didn’t seem to notice or care. She spoke with some friends after and they were mad too. She was the most furious becasue she thought she was the kind of girl to speak up and, when she was in a position like this, she froze. She was nearly in tears bc her fear of retribution from a male authority proved her own theory. I’m torn between ripping into the teacher or letting my daughter do it. She says she wants to try again, to prove to herself she can say something. Fingers crossed.

    • Agenbiter says:

      Either or both of you can do something – it’s all understandable and all good, including being unjustifiably angry with herself when she hesitated to put herself at real risk.

      Solidarity with you both, and with all the other girls who were angry as well.

    • sunshine cookie says:

      Don’t do it.
      Don’t attack the bl… teacher.
      Because your daughter will suffer and that is bad.
      Do something else to protest against male authority and entitlement.
      honestly, I have some experience going against some unjust teachers and it did me some harm in my education. there are too many male white …. in the education hierarchy … especially in the higher echelons.
      Wait till you get your degree and then you go …

    • Cate says:

      I would communicate to the teacher IN WRITING, that you felt his speech was inappropriate for a classroom setting. I would also copy the school principal on any communication you have with the teacher.

      If you are friendly with other parents and think they would also find this behavior inappropriate, suggest that they communicate with the teacher and the principal also.

      Maybe I got lucky with the school I attended, but my parents stuck up for me (and I sassed back more than one teacher) when they thought I was not being treated fairly. I know my dad would be writing an incredibly pompous letter to the teacher and principal if he were in your shoes (and having me hand deliver it). I don’t think it really hurt me to have my parents advocate for me at times, though I am not up on current college admissions, etc.

    • Teebee says:

      This is infuriating and so upsetting to hear, and regardless of what you and your daughter are comfortable with moving forward, might I say that I think your daughter sounds marvelous! I totally relate to her emotional turmoil, who hasn’t been in a position where they witnessed a grievous injustice of some kind, wanted to speak up, and yet felt fear of reprisal, of retaliation, of being completely dismissed… That she wants to use this as a fear-breaker is incredible.

      Be prepared if she does make a public statement, and experiences any kind of backlash, that you’re there for her, as so many of us here would be if we could be on your doorstep. Let her know she has impressed this woman, this cynical, pessimistic, grump, and she has given me hope that the future may just end up in better hands…

      • Sleanne says:

        I showed my daughte your responses and she felt really good.
        She said she wants to say something to him in a non confrontational manner and spent the evening researching; first this case and later about victim’s rights and consent. She stayed up late on on a school night talking to me about what she learned and even the methods of how to argue your point without arguing. I am so proud of how she channeled her anger.

  23. virginfangirl says:

    But he’s a good Catholic, went to a Jesuit school, went to church EVERY Sunday, volunteered. I never trust Christians that yell so loudly how holy they are. Now we know he tried to shame another girl (alumni), bragged about threesomes (Devil Triangle), bragged of taking drugs/alcohol through his anus (boofing). I’m a forgiving person, & if he told the truth and admitted he was a complete ahole when he was young I could forgive, but the fact a judge is lying under oath is not a man I want “judging” me.

  24. Anare says:

    My daughter texted me from college:
    “This whole Brett Kavanaugh thing is so gross. No one should be allowed to hold positions of power if they have any sort of history of abuse of any kind like idk why this shit is even a debate.“
    Word! So proud of my baby!😘