When there are especially awful days and weeks in Trump’s America, I often think back to Susan Sarandon. Sarandon was a Bernie-or-Buster who endorsed and voted for Jill Stein, because that’s how ideologically “pure” Sarandon is. Sarandon repeatedly said that Trump and Hillary Clinton would be the same, or that Clinton would be worse for the country. This entire time, Debra Messing – a Hillary supporter – has gone toe-to-toe with Sarandon, calling her out on BS and telling Sarandon to STFU. So here’s the next question: does Debra Messing hate Susan Sarandon more than Trump? Possibly.
Messing is asked, by a caller on Watch What Happens Live, if she would rather be trapped in an elevator with Trump or with Sarandon. Messing thinks about it for a beat and answers “I think Trump.” I disagree. The right answer is “neither” or “both, because only one of the three of us will leave the elevator alive.” I know Messing is an ally and a smart woman, and I’m not going to get my knickers in a twist about an off-hand remark she made on a talk show. But can I just say? We need to stop thinking that Trump can be reasoned with, or that we could “talk him into” anything. Same with people like Susan Sarandon – there’s no reasoning with people like her at this point. If she wants to apologize and grovel for our forgiveness, I still say that we should tell her to eat sh-t. The thing is, she’s never apologized. She still believes SHE was right. Same with Trump.
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I don’t think it’s about reasoning with Trump. It’s just easier dealing with an insane megalomaniac than wight a hypocrite like Sarandon who believes she can do no wrong. With Trump you know what you’re getting.
Exactly. With trump you know exactly what your getting-an racist sexist insane narcissist. Sarandon pretends to be a supporter of progressive causes and people of color and then threw them all overboard by advocating and voting for Stein. She did the same thing in 2000 by supporting Nader. She’s a snake.
ITA
With Trump she’d have to worry that he’s going to try to grab her by the…
With Sarandon at least she’s physically safe.
I agree. She picked Trump not because you would reason with him but because he is what you see. With Sarandon, she presents herself as someone politicaly savvy, yet she is as horrible as the President.
+1, SM. (Thanks for being articulate, so I can be lazy!)
Yep.
Oh, I would love to be stuck in an elevator with Trump. I would scream at him and he would be sputtering because he’s really a chickensh*t. Hopefully I would cause a heart attack and then I would fake concern when the elevator doors opened. But sadly he will probably never be alone in an elevator again.
I would love it too. To give him hell for the period we’re stuck in there would be really, really good.
There are very few people I have this much disdain for.
You are so funny, Minx: fake concern!! 😀
I would too. Trump is the kind of man who you can just share your McDonald’s French Fries with and he’ll probably leave you alone. Or you can just distract him with Fox News. In fact, that might be a good idea: all women should carry pocket TVs tuned to Fox News so whenever they get cornered by a gross Republican, they can distract them before getting groped, or worse.
Susan Sarandon, however, will extole the virtues of Jill Stein and get you arrested for punching her in the face.
Truly made me laugh @Rapunzel. I’d be taking out my earrings.
Yeah, I don’t think she was saying “Trump” because she wants to reason with him, I think she would rather deal with an arrogant, narcissistic nutbag than a holier-than-thou ignorant windbag.
She was given a choice. Maybe she can’t reason with him but truthfully, she has never had the chance to try. She has however, beaten a dead horse with Susan.
If I was trapped in an elevator with Trump, I’d lose my voice from screaming at him, break a finger when I smacked his pudgy orange face, go bald when I pulled all my hair out with frustration, and end up in a straight jacket and handcuffs when the doors finally open
Perhaps now is also the time to examine our culture in general and our love of celebrities. Many think that Trump won (in part) because he was a celebrity. But I think it’s also time to really look at our celebrity obsessed culture and come to some agreement that celebrities are not people to be lauded or praised as paragons of anything. They’re just people with opinions and quite frankly, they take up too much of the oxygen when it comes to politics. Not saying that they should just ‘shut up and act/dance/dribble,’ but that we shouldn’t take them as seriously as we do when it comes to serious issues. Let’s just get back to listening and extolling scientists, writers, policy wonks, etc. The left owns the culture, but the right owns the power, so what good is it to care about what Sarandon says or what Messing thinks about her?
This.
I can’t believe that Susan is so obtuse. I used to run to the movies to see her…I just can’t..
So we still think susan sarandon has more influence than the obamas, jay-z, beyonce, jennifer lawrence, george clooney, al gore, joe biden,, bill clinton and the new york times?
Yeah, I didn’t realize SS was so powerful. And she voted for Ralph Nader too, should we blame the 2000 election on her too.
The anger towards Susan Sarandon on this site is unreal. In my opinion, Hilary is 1000000% better than Trump. But I can understand why a person would think that neoliberalism is the secondary cause of all our problems. Our complacent Democrat leadership is doing us no favors and not wanting to continue to invest in the status quo of that is *not* equal to supporting a racist, narcissistic monster like Trump. I find Sarandon’s actions stubborn and immature, but I also find discrediting her whole viewpoint as unproductive. A healthy chunk of the left feels the same way as her, and treating their POV with contempt seems short-sighted. I don’t agree with her actions, but I see where she is coming from.
Thank You natalie !
Couldn’t agree with you more.
natalie- Nope Nope Nope Nope. Susan and the “healthy chunk of the left” that “feels the same way as her” just don’t want to hear that they f*ck over pretty much the entire country with their purity tests and third party conscience votes. If you voted for anyone other Hillary, you were a grade a moron and deserve to be derided. You made the wrong choice as Hillary was literally the only candidate worth a damn on that Nov. 2016 ballot. We on this site are “discrediting her whole viewpoint” because it simply isn’t credible. That is not unproductive. What’s unproductive are folks like you who cling to this idea that people who voted third party didn’t do anything wrong. They did. Face it. The third party candidates were jokes and there was no excuse for supporting them. Those votes could have gotten Hillary the presidency. Y’all just don’t want to hear how wrong you are that people are suffering because of this Sarandon type nonsense.
Wow @Rapunzel. Are you a Russian? Just wondering.
First situation with Trump: You are trapped in an elevator with the Orange One. You are aghast. He, naturally, is excited about being stuck with an attractive woman. While screaming at him about the various horrors of his administration, don’t forget to guard your biscuit, as he will be mounting an offense. You use the situation to unload on him. This is a win!
Second situation with Susan Sarandon. OMG! She is still stuck on Bernie and her diatribe is unending. You try to tune her out, but she is shrill and insistent. You are going through your purse looking for weapons when you are saved by the fire department. You sue her for verbal assault and emotional suffering. After listening to Sarandon’s testimony the jury awards you a kajillion dollars in sympathy and sentences her to 1,000 hours community service at the Republican HQ. Another win!
*eyeroll