“Never fear, dudes like James Gunn will always get second chances” links

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James Gunn is already forgiven, it seems, because he’s probably going to write & direct Suicide Squad 2. I’m so glad that all of these white guys get “second chances.” [Dlisted]
A decade later on one of Anne Hathaway’s best performances. [Pajiba]
The real-life couple that inspired The Vow are divorcing. He cheated. [Starcasm]
Kim Kardashian promotes Tiffany’s jewelry. [Wonderwall]
I’m not even watching these movies and I know the answer to this question. [Looper]
The 2019 Met Gala has a theme: camp. Oh, god. [LaineyGossip]
Timothee Chalamet has so much style. [Tom & Lorenzo]
Kylie Jenner changed the spelling of Stormi’s name at the last minute. [JustJared]
Dakota Johnson insists that she’s not pregnant. [Seriously OMG WTF]

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  1. Pandy says:

    Kim isn’t “promoting” Tiffany, she just showed up at one of their parties/launches. Looking like she bought out the Fredericks of Hollywood Glamour Wear catalogue.

    • Nichole says:

      I did a double take on that, too. I will die on this hill for Kim Kardashian – I am one of her biggest defenders. But wow, that would be a bad, bad move by Tiffany.

    • BeanieBean says:

      For some reason, I thought Tiffany the singer was bringing out a line of jewelry & Kim was supporting that. That made much more sense, really.

  2. Veronica S. says:

    James Gunn is probably one of the few situations where it isn’t as horrifically problematic as in the past. The tweets had context, and he’d apologized in previous years for his poor humor. This was a case of Trump supporters weaponizing previous mistakes to silence somebody who criticized their movement. I totally agree that white men never really lose, but this isn’t as much of a case that makes me want to scream in outrage at the injustice of it all.

    Holy shit, that article about the couple from The Vow. Imagine the absolute audacity it takes to cheat on the wife who literally went through all of that to stay with you. What a garbage disposal of a human being.

    • Kitten says:

      YES to everything you said and to your reply above as well.

    • jessamine says:

      All of this!

    • Case says:

      Completely agreed, thank you. I don’t think he should’ve lost his job over those tweets to begin with. They were old, he apologized, and never hurt anyone as far as we know.

    • JustSayin' says:

      Except, he did more than tweet a couple of tasteless jokes.
      He deleted thousands of tweets. He communicated and laughed it up with a convicted pedo. There’s also the video where he talks..sorry, “jokes”, about anally raping his daughter.
      I don’t care about his political views. Whether he is a democrat or republican.
      I’m so sick of the moral degradation of society and how no one cares about children’s wellbeing.

      • tealily says:

        Just don’t let your children see Suicide Squad 2 and it shouldn’t be a problem.

      • JustSayin' says:

        I don’t have children, nor do I want them in this messed up society.

        Have not and will not watch suicide squad.

      • another someone says:

        he does not have children – a daughter or otherwise. i know this is just a gossip site so fact-checking is not required. just like trump, we can say things and not even have to attribute it to verifiable sources. so i guess, carry on . . .

  3. Missy says:

    So is James gunn not supposed to work anymore because he made bad jokes years ago?…as far as I know he hasn’t been accused of hurting anybody or anything. I know he was a liability for Disney but suicide squad is an adult movie.

  4. Marty says:

    Honestly, was there ever any doubt he would? There are men currently working in Hollywood who have done way worse than he did. This business loves to forgive white men.

    • Jegede says:

      Yep.

      I mean Brian Singer is tapped to direct a new movie too right?

      • Missy says:

        Bryan singer has been accused of having sex parties involving young guys, among other things. Not exactly a good comparison to the james gunn thing

      • ichsi says:

        Bryan Singer also has been buying the silence of quite the number of sexual assault accusers. Underaged and not. It’s definitely not the same thing as having a gross sense of humour, but yeah, he’s back too.

  5. tealily says:

    James Gunn didn’t actually do anything. He made a bunch of tasteless and unfunny jokes, apologized for them, and has stopped doing so. This all happened BEFORE he was hired by Disney. As far as we know, he hasn’t hurt anyone or attacked anyone, and loads of people have come out to say what a pleasure he is to work with etc. etc. The vibe I really get off of this whole thing is that he may have even been a victim himself at some point. I don’t think he should have been fired in the first place — he shouldn’t have been hired at all if his past was going to be a problem. Suicide Squad could be a good fit for him. I wish him luck.

    • Dita von Katzhausen says:

      How do you know though? That he didn’t do anything, I mean. Someone who makes tasteless jokes about raping children, could very well somehow engage in pedophelia. And even if he didn’t, to throw jokes like this out, needs a certain level of horrible judgement, stupidity and perfidiousness. People liked to work with that Jackass from Glee, too.

    • tealily says:

      I just don’t understand how anyone could reasonably expect a man to never work again because he said something stupid a while ago. Obviously we don’t *know* he didn’t do anything, but no one has even accused him of doing anything. I think that if someone apologizes and changes their behavior, they should get a second chance. What do we honestly expect of him at this point? What could he do to make this better?

  6. diana says:

    Shouldn’t have been fired in the first place. But teah…I wasn’t exactly worried for his future.

  7. Pinetree13 says:

    Did any of you read or watch Kanye’s insane visit with the president….he sounds like he’s gone off his trolley to put it nicely

  8. FF says:

    Disney had a series of brands and studios (Pixar, Dreamworks, Lucasfilm, Marvel, and their own) to protect, as well as a big deal (Fox) going through and were right to fire him in that regard, and keep it that way. They would likely face fiercer potential blowback for keeping him than letting him go, when he is completely replaceable (and his tweets utterly repugnant) – his movies aren’t even cultural flashpoints like Black Panther or Captain Marvel that specifically need a African-American or woman’s voice and understanding.

    I even think he peaked with GotG2, and that a new set of eyes on that series would actually help it (hell, they can even skip GotG3 entirely and bring the remaining characters in under other frachise titles).

    His script is likely to be used anyway, the cast and crew are his friends and family and he’ll probably be unofficially consulted but quite officially paid – so he is the most involved fired guy on a movie ever, to the point that I feel sorry for his replacement who will have a thankless task ahead of them.

    The anxiety over a position he chose to put his career in – with bad taste tweets over a period of years as a man over 40 – precisely because white males rarely have to consider these kinds of consequences at any age and can be “edgy” with impunity ’til the cows come home was overdone to the point of assigning him fake martyrdom. His career was never in danger and those in the industry who feel he was unfairly done by and bad for him will always be funneling him work in the future: this actually boosted his profile and career. So all these crocodile tears on his behalf are tiresome.

  9. Miss Margo says:

    Isn’t that the truth. If it we’re a woman or a poc, they’d be gone forever. Can’t even believe you can publically post pedo jokes on the internet FOR YEARS and Hollywood is just fine with it… We’ll, I doubt the public will be. Anything he from here on out will bomb.

  10. Raina says:

    I’m also offended anyone liked the orginal Suicide Squad.

    But , in all seriousness, someone here posted that Gunn deleted much more texts? I’m curious what they, too, said. Couldn’t find them, albeit my service is poor where I’m staying at the moment.
    Also, I liked the movie “The Vow”
    In reality, couples change, grow apart, life shifts in different directions for everyone. It doesn’t take away from the beauty and commitment of what WAS. I always find it rather sad when, for example, a couple will experience some truly great years together, only to have it bolied down to how it ended.
    Life is a series of moments; not one conclusion that dictates all the years prior. What took place between them can, still and does remain poignantly meaningful.
    For some, cheating is worse than death…frankly, than anything, really; some would rather lose their partner to illness than the beatdown cheating gives ones heart and ego.
    I think it depends on a case by case basis. It’s whatever each person can handle and, usually, there’s a lot more to every cheating incidence.
    I can’t speculate on this couple, except to say I did respect the healing they had undergone in order to stay together. That part felt real to me.
    Most “endings ” are rarely “happy” if they end.
    I, personally, have learned to lean on the experience that I’d gotten from every relationship of any kind. Not just romantic involvement.
    That is my form of paying it respect and developing my closure.
    I certainly don’t judge anyones process in how they choose to live through things, of course.
    To each, their own.

    Granted, 25 years is a helluva long time. There’s an accomplishment in that, alone. Should it have soured, due to one or both parties, I respect the original story and the decades put in.

    That said, another part of me, the more human, temperamental side, just can’t deal with cheaters. Shyt happens, I get it, but come ON. Maybe do anything else first. Including leave.

    My 2 cents.

  11. Bella Bella says:

    Timothee Chalamet is the bomb. Still a very real person and I hope he stays that way. And doing some stellar acting. Personally, I thought he and his family actors carried Call Me By Your Name and that Armie Hammer was awful. I hope he continues to choose interesting roles and has a long, fascinating career.

  12. Chad says:

    Good God!

    The man said some stupid shit over a decade ago.

    He apologized before it even became public and the world is skewering him now?

    Who doesn’t have something they’re embarrassed about?

    • FF says:

      While I get that people want to defend him, the party line being pushed around about these tweets being from a decade ago is not true and wilful disinformation to mitigate.

      The earliest tweet dug up was from a decade ago. The most recent about 5-6 years ago; and inbetween those points over a period of 4-5 years, he was still tweeting far too regularly on the topic of rape and paedophilia repeatedly – as a man over the age of 40.

      If Disney had the tiniest bit of wriggling room to defend him and excuse his behaviour they likely would have tried but the topic, frequency, volume of output, time frame, age of subject, coupled with video and pictures made that impossible.

      Not sure we can’t just say he f***ed up and there were consequences, and move on. The extended outcry (beyond the cretins who dropped the tweets in the first place) makes it look as if white males feel that saying and doing obnoxious things that no one else can away with is something they are not only aware of but something they feel is their inalienable right. As we can see, that attitude has devastating consequences for everyone else and should be stomped out accordingly.

      (Btw, every other person those same cretins tried to sabotage is still in a job; Gunn had Disney in a corner and was in an indefensible position – that he’d put himself in – and that’s why he had to go. That should be recognized. Even now the best defence has been: “it was a decade ago” – not true – and “but he’s changed” – debatable and unquantifiable.

      He was in no way stiffed or betrayed, and should recognise how critical his being a privileged and popular white guy in an industry full of them that mitigate for each other was in the outcome.)

      His career is just fine, and support for him has only increased. He will continue to make films and money.

      I honestly wish as much effort had been expended routing the trolls and cretins who dropped the tweets, over people latching on to the ridiculous idea that keeping Gunn at Disney in any way dealt with them and the real problem they present.

      • Ann says:

        I think he needed to go but the way it went down wasn’t great.

        The problem with Gunn is that he got his first break via Troma [in the 1990s and he worked for them for up until the mid-2000s at least], where jokes like that are the norm. So, it’s unfortunately possible he had a social media ‘character’ that fit in line with Troma humor but was discarded once he didn’t need to fall back on that studio anymore.