Around Thanksgiving is when the smear campaign against the Duchess of Sussex went into overdrive, in what seemed like a coordinated effort from several different people and different “camps.” One of the first stories we heard was about how Mean Diva Meghan made Poor Kate cry just before the Royal Sussex Wedding in May. Allegedly, both women were at a fitting for the “bridesmaids,” including Princess Charlotte, and something was said or the two women fought or something. No one was actually clear as to what really happened, just that Kate cried and we were supposed to assume that Meghan did something to her. What followed was a series of stories about how Meghan is just so angry and terrible and difficult and diva-ish that she’s responsible for all of the white tears in Britain. So what really happened during that pre-wedding fitting though? People Magazine has a little bit more information:
Rumors of a rift between Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle have dominated headlines in recent weeks, and tensions between the two royal women boiled over on at least one occasion. A family friend confirms to PEOPLE in this week’s cover story that Meghan, 37, and Kate, 36, clashed in the days ahead of the Duchess of Sussex’s royal wedding to Prince Harry in May.
“There was an argument between Meghan and Kate over the fit of [3-year-old] Princess Charlotte‘s dress,” the source confirms. A different insider adds, “There were very few fittings for the bridesmaids. Everything was left to the last minute, and it was really stressful for everyone involved.”
Kate was reportedly “left in tears” over the incident — though exactly what upset her is unclear.
An argument over the fit of Charlotte’s bridesmaid’s dress… I’ve gone back and looked at the photos of Charlotte at the Sussex wedding, and if anything, I think the fit is definitely a little bit off on her little dress. It’s a tad too big, but isn’t that pretty common with kids’ clothes? I mean, no parent wants their kids in body-con. Was that the fight? Kate was like “it should be baggy” and Meghan was like “but then it needs to still look structured and clean”…? And if that’s the kind of fight that led to tears, then obviously it was just a stressful and hormonal time for both women. I don’t know, truly. I still believe that people have manipulated this story.
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Gawd I’m glad I’m not famous.
Ahaha, well said. We buy off-the-rack, put it on and try to have a good time.
This woman knows how to live ❤️❤️😍🤣
This is what I really don’t get. Even if Kate was emotional or the dress really was problematic, why in the world would Meghan have bothered fighting Kate over this. Didn’t happen (or these people are nuts). Fame does seem to do weird things to people.
I agree, Bettyrose. This whole story smells fake to me, and they are doubling down on it, but still no one knows what was so upsetting? It was also reported that Meghan didn’t attend the childrens’ fitting. More smear and smear justification. From trashy “sources.” Who should be ashamed.
They ought to hand the suspected leakers some false tidbits and see which ones surface in the tabs. Like, Meghan requis one perfect piece of avocado toast every morning at 5am! Kate and the children had a welcoming party for Meghan with handmade decorations and Meghan only stayed for 5 minutes! The dog’s name is Rufus! Meg’s preg craving: thai green curry! Stuff like that.
5am avocado toast. Dead. When will this girl learn she’s not in California any more? 😂😂😂
Bettyrose, she was mocking the people who nitpick Meghan’s every move, not Meghan herself.
@Sass, I think Bettyrose & I agree. 😉
This stuff is actually kinda fun to make up. I wonder if the tabs are hiring…. hahahaha. Happy Hols!
I cried over a teen titans go episode after i had my last baby so it probably didn’t take much to make her cry. I also stressed about planning my wedding and it was in my back yard w/ 40 people- pretty sure it was a lot more stressful for Meghan. This is ridiculous.
It was probably one of the episodes of Cyborg playing “The Light Begins to Shine”. 😆 I love this show and watch it with my daughter.
Agreed, love to watch it with my boys.
I cried over my in-laws sitting at their kitchen table because they were old and I felt bad about that, lol
Ahaha ohh Im sorry to laugh about your tears but this is too familiar. Thanks for sharing – made my day. I was in my 1st trimester when I got married – I cried because I thought the starps onthe dress were too thick 😂🤦♀️
I’m sensitive about pets anyway but during my pregnancy I cried about animals.
I feel like this is a made up story or exaggerated. How could there be so many sources yet nobody knows what happened?
I don’t believe there’s some big fight going on. And i still don’t think wk are trying to harm hm. There are many people who need popularity more than Will. Or distraction.
There’s a reason William found surrogate family in the Middletons.
I cried for days because my husband was having an affair. He wasn’t and now, looking back, I don’t even know why I thought he was.
This. I don’t know if I “believe” any of this, but crying could have been over absolutely nothing. Being post partum is rough, and money and staff cannot fix your hormones on a roller coaster. I doubt Meghan “made” her cry. I cried at every.single.thing. post partum. Most of it wasn’t anyone’s fault.
This was my sister and I our whole lives. She cries at the drop of a hat. You can literally tell her she made a wrong turn when driving somewhere and she will cry like you told her to f herself. If Kate cried over the fit of her 3 year olds dress, I think that’s on Kate not Megan.
Yeah, who would cry over that? I’m a sensitive person and I wouldn’t cry over that.
Kate had recently had a baby, and was probably still emotional with pregnancy hormones. My bff cried over absolutely everything during her pregnancy, and for quite a while after her son was born. Never went anywhere with her without a box of tissues
I’m not a big Kate fan but a woman who just had a baby cries over that. Your hormones are CRAZY after having a baby for like the first three months after delivering. Its nuts.
Did she really though? It does seem lie a small thing to cry over. Like others are saying, maybe it was hormones. Lots of women can relate. Then again, maybe it was something else entirely and the dress just set her off. Maybe it never even happened.
I cried over a cheap broken glass in the sink when I was pregnant. Nothing is too small to raging hormones.
I don’t know why but Kate strikes me as very stoic and emotion less.I know after pregnancy,stress,all kinds of things can affect our emotions,but I don’t see Kate as a crier and I don’t see Meghan as a mean girl bride making people cry over the fit of a three year olds dress.
I don’t buy these stories anyway. I feel like it’s all made up drama by the British press.
I agree This story seems false. Who would cry over the fit of a 3 year olds dress? You would argue about it. If the fit is off then alter it. If it is a bit big…well who cares. She is 3. I just don’t understand how 2 grown women could have an arguement about a 3 year olds dress. Does not make sense to me at all.
If I were the betting sort, I’d place my money on Kate getting sentimental about her little girl growing up. Plain and simple.
That’s entered my mind too,but I don’t see Kate crying so much as showing a quick bit of emotion and then reigning it back in.
The dress looks fine to me
Yup-totally fine. (I find this sooooo ridiculous.)
I actually wonder if maybe Kate made a comment about the fabric? It looks like it’s one that gets easily wrinkled and especially with little kids moving around.
Repeat nonsense 😉
Yep, I call BS on the whole story. So many of these stories are so far from the truth, like the “people in the know” said that Doria was invited for Christmas, except that she wasn’t. Royal experts were in charge of that wedding. Nothing would have been done at the last minute.
Buckle up people, after M & H’s super-successful North America tour, we’ll get a slew of stories on how Meghan caused the mass extinction of the dinosaurs and was the mastermind behind Watergate.
I believe Doria may well have been invited for Christmas, but chose not to go, knowing full well the kind of press it would have caused. I hope she goes for at least 3-4 months (maybe 1 month before baby, 2-3 months after babe?). If Mr. Markle had conducted himself with the kind of thoughtful grace Mz. Ragland has, well I bet there would have been no issue whatsoever. He earned the response he is getting from his daughter. Did he honestly believe there would be no consequences? It’s not logical…..
Obviously, Meghan suggested that fabric weights be sewn into the hem of the dress because it can get windy in Windsor in May and poor Charlotte would never recover if the whole world saw her bloomers at her uncle’s wedding. So Kate said, fine, but if we do that we need to add buttons to the dress. Huge, shiny gold buttons. Meghan couldn’t help it. She laughed. And Kate muttered “well I never!” and sat in a corner sobbing to her mother over the phone about how this uppity American was ruining “Charlotte’s Big Day” by not letting her wear the dress of her (Kate’s) dreams…
Ah, yes, that was fun. Like fanfic. I can see how the journalists get such a kick out of it… 🙄
Enny, I’m in bed with a cold, scowling at the timing, and you made me laugh! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Bahaha!
@enny
Hahahaha. I knew buttons were involved somehow!
Haha! Enny, that was great! 😂
This is the best story and I choose to believe it’s exactly what happened.
Emmy that made me laugh so hard. I am also at home with a cold/sinus infection but I wheezed a laugh anyway. Lol
Maybe Kate is so used to getting her way that she cried over being told no.
Maybe she was stressed out from either being pregnant at the time or having just given birth and feels embarrased over having cried about a dress.
I know. It would suck to have judgemental people reporting on my crappy moments.
I could see the back and forth over the fit happening, but I doubt Meghan was the one who said it needed to be structured and clean–her own dress came out too big and wrinkled.
I suspect that there’s a possibility that the dress was ordered in a larger size (or smaller) because you kind of have to guess how big your kid is going to be. They go through little growth spurts so often that I could see it being something like that. And either Kate guessed too big, or too small, and something had to be done to adjust it/find a new dress last minute.
I’m picking up a couple of shirts for my nieces for Christmas and even their mom is like “3t and hope for the best, stuff that fits one day is outgrown the next week!”
Enn, I feel you! My niece is 3.5 now – and she has long legs. She’s always been a size or two up from what her age was because of it, and it made it so hard to shop. I did find her a pretty awesome little faux leather jacket that was JUST big enough that it didn’t look silly, but had room to grow. I never had small kids in my family so I’d never had to shop for a baby before she came along. And she’s hit a point where she’s starting to ‘judge’ her clothes haha. My MIL bought her some leggings recently because she’d gotten hers soaked playing in the mud and she’d grown out of the ‘extra’ pairs kept at the grandparents. She said the floral print were “too leafy” and the plaid ones were “too shapey” and didn’t want to wear them ahaha. But she sighed in the end and said “okay nanny, because you bought them for me”.
Oh, I remember that when the kids were little. So many cute outfits that never got worn.
That has yet to stop with my youngest though. He’s almost 17 and jeans I buy him will fit one week and I swear a week later he looks ready for a flood. His sister never really got tall enough for that to matter, he on the other hand……Poor kid grew over 8 inches last year, between September and end of January. He’s sprouted again this school year, with about 2.5 inches since September.
Anyway, as to the royal rumour crap, these leakers and papers need to get a life. Seriously? This is what you have to report on? Oy…….
Yes, I’m in total agreement. The woman who has worn dresses as loose as a potato sack would not want children in tight clothing. Perhaps it was the other way around and Kate felt the dresses were too loose. Kate is the one that wears everything fitted and structured. Either way, this is a moot point. When I was pregnant and immediately post partum my hormones were crazy and I cried for every little reason. Someone is taking a small situation of hormones and using it against Meghan.
I actually thought the same thing…..that both Charlottes and MMs dresses looked a tad too big in certain places
But WHY would a dress, too big or too small, make her CRY?? They have the means to alter or re-order, esp. as they were custom, and I’m SURE Givenchy would’ve fallen over themselves to get a bridesmaid dress remade in time for a ROYAL WEDDING lol.
I’m taking this whole thing with a salt MOUNTAIN. Just ain’t so…
If they disagreed about the fit, and it escalated….yeah, I could see it happening postpartum. Meghan would “win” (it’s her wedding day), but let’s benhonest……Kate’s style is more fitted clothing. I think it is indeed possible they had a disagreement. A stupid, hormone and stress fueled disagreement. So what ?
Yeah, would Meghan have supervised that fitting? I doubt she was there.
Sounds—granted, based on very limited information—like Kate overstepped her bounds. It wasn’t her wedding, and her personal opinions about fit, color, timing should have been kept to herself.
When it comes to toddlers timing is everything. If inconvenient/last minute fittings were scheduled I can see the issue. Kids like schedules. Maybe Charlotte wanted Kate around, especially since a new baby can make the other kids insecure. In that case sending Charlotte with a nanny would not work, and Kate had a baby to think about. And a new baby can mean a weepy mom for months. It may have been about the fittings rather than the fit. On the other hand I’m guessing these people can afford private in home fittings, so who knows.
In what world is a mother discussing the fit of her child’s clothes overstepping? That is her child!!! And let us be real if that dress was uncomfortable and Charolette threw a fit and ruined the wedding OMG can you imagine. SO no it is 1000% Kate’s place to comment, and frankly if Megan didn’t get that and made a mean comment then she was completely wrong and overstepped her bounds in a mother child relationship.
All that being said I think Megan made an innocent comment along the lines of do you think it fits right, and Kate who gave birth like what a week before got emotional. This did not happen because Megan was mean or Kate was overly sensitive or frankly because either was wrong but because Kate just had a baby and her hormones were out of wack.
Honestly this entire thing makes sense to any woman who has had a child or known someone who just had a child and the desperate need people have to make one of these women a bad guy is nuts.
When you agree to let your child participate in someone’s wedding, you have to realize your personal wishes take a backseat to the bride’s. As long as Charlotte wasn’t asked to wear something uncomfortably binding or so loose it would fall off and compromise her modesty, Kate should have keep the opinions to herself. And I’m saying this as someone who generally likes/defends Kate.
You can’t have young children in your wedding party (Charlotte just turned three!!!) and then expect the parent of that child that they have zero say in matters involving their child’s participation.
I agree. A mother is not overstepping when it comes to her own 3 year old child. She is totally in charge of that situation. It’s a lot of pressure for these little kids to be in these public weddings. It is likely stressful for everyone involved. The dresses, the behaviour, the schedule, it sounds like a nightmare.
Its Meghan and Harry’s wedding, they do have a right to weigh in on how a bridesmaid’s dress should generally fit and look. They want the attendants to probably look consistent. That’s the bride’s prerogative. However, if the dress was being fitted in a way as to make Charlotte uncomfortable in any way, then that is her mother’s right to wade in – tactfully – and see the dress at least minimally comfortably fitted. Without more details, we don’t what happened. I thought Char’s dress looked fine, myself (rolled hems aside!).
Little kids as bridesmaids just have to be their cute natural selves, I think…. I doubt anybody would care too much about the fit as long as the little ones were comfy. If someone wants lockstep consistency, they wouldn’t bring young children into the mix.
Oh so this actually happened? I thought it was all the way made up.
I know, right? I thought it was made up. The People article also references the tiara issue as well, which I also thought was made up. 🤔
Yeah, I say both stories are made up. Maybe Meghan was asked what stones she liked in general, and then found out that Eugenie already had dibs on the emerald one. Meghan’s not stupid; she would have not thrown a fit over which priceless jewel the Queen was loaning her.
The tiara story makes no sense. There’s a lot of mystery around some tiaras in the BRF, no one knows if they were sold or broken down to create other pieces. So either 1. Meghan is a detective genius and demanded a specific tiara, which seems unlikely, 2. Harry told her about said tiara and offered/recommended it to her without consulting the Queen, or 3. The Queen offered her the tiara, then reneged, in which case I can understand being upset.
Oh, I honestly think the Royal Prince’s and Princesses know of all the tiaras in the collection. It’s a secret to the public but that doesn’t mean it’s a secret within the family. Harry talked about tiaras being every girl’s dream lol so he must’ve spoken to Meghan about the tiara collection. The Vladimir is an emerald tiara – it was either the Vladimir tiara or Eugenie’s Kokoshnik tiara.
I feel like the same crap has been recycled for the last month. Everything has been said. Thank u, next.
Maxie I match your ‘feel’ with a strong feeling of Deja Vu.
Aren’t they rich? Can’t you summon a seamstress to make a house call Kate? That’s why I think this is nonsense unless she is such a drama queen.
That would be up to the Bride to be to arrange the fittings.
Surely a dressmaker was involved in the fitting of the dress and would advise as that is their literal business, or were Kate and Meghan sewing this frock by candlelight in a dungeon with mice holding the thread. Such nonsense.
@Zapp – You made me laugh out loud 🙂 Of course they were sewing by candlelight in a dungeon :eye roll:.
Don’t all royalty have mice to help with sewing? Are you implying that might not be the case? That was the one part of Cinderella I was down for – mouse friends.
Yes Zapp of course they were sewing in a dungeon with only candles for light and talking,singing mouse friends to help.Have you learned nothing front Walt Disney😜
Good thing none of them pricked a finger on a spinning wheel. Though Kate probably thought about doing it, ’cause no work for many long years, right?
Yeah,Kate saw the spinning wheel and thought hmmm…🤔
This is the best thread ever.
Great pun on “thread”! 😉
omg I literally burst out laughing reading this! Brava Zapp!
Meghan’s wedding dress did not fit. The bridesmaids dresses did not fit either and could have done with more structure. However I doubt this is what they argued about, if they even argued at all!
Meghan looked amazing. The dress was gorgeous. Just because it didn’t fit like it was made out of saran wrap doesn’t mean the fit was bad.
who fights over the fit of a 3 year old’s dress? this sounds like BS..or are Royals that petty and nitpicky?
They don’t really work so they have all the time in the world to be petty and nitpicky. It fills those long drawn out hours in drafty palaces. In the olden days they’d go to war to fill in the empty space.
Exactly! They argue about the littlest of things because they have the time……
ha, spot on. That’s why I always roll my eyes at all the “great work ethic” comments on here.
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Seconded.
… and when Kate saw the bride’s dress, she realized that she should not have worried because no one focused on whatever fit issues there were with Charlotte’s dress due to the fit issues with the bride’s dress.
Indeed! Meghan’s bridal gown needed a few more fittings. Meghan’s reception gown fitted her like a glove.
I don’t buy any of it. From these two fighting, to Meghan being sooo difficult, to Kate’s people secretly smearing her. It’s all garbage.
Thank you!!! However, your common sense and logical view doesn’t fit with the narratives people are desperate to hold. (for both women)
Ah People Magazine is not above exploiting Meghan and trying to cash in on the story that seems to have grabbed massive attention and conjecture. There seems to be no end of “insiders” and “family friends” out there to fuel this narrative either. More likely that “family friend” in this case is code for “we don’t know jack and are reprinting articles from the DM.”
Every little thing just sucked dry. It literally could have been a 5 minute disagreement and now we will be hearing about it for the rest of forever. M and K are probably way over it and we are beating a dead horse. Kate just had a baby, Charlotte could have been acting like a three year old, she got frustrated and cried during the fitting. My sister after having a baby cried for like a year over silly things. It’s been months, why are we still talking about this?
What we have here is a classic “more cowbell” situation.
Kate: “MORE BUTTONS.”
Meghan: ” … um”
Kate: “I’VE GOT A FEVER. AND IT CAN ONLY BE CURED BY MORE BUTTONS.”
Thank you indeed
These stories are mildly creative, but are an insult to the intelligence of the thinking mind. This would have been taken care of by the coordinator and Kate’s assistant. It would not have passed in front of Meghan aside from the requested color. The childrens outfits always look the same in the BRF family weddings, and it is outside the preference of these Duchesses to make chances to protocol.
Ha ha. People in my mind lately equates to the DM.
I agree. This article was nothing that hasn’t already been said. Unfortunately most of publishing is driven by clicks and ads now so I think even respectable royal reporters have reduced down to the lowest common denominator. Although tbh I’m not even sure what the role of respectable royal reporter even is? Aren’t they all essentially gossip reporters? I mean what would they report on that’s on the same level as like a true news story? I think nothing. Which is why we’re stuck in this ridiculous loop of vague they must hate each other stories.
I think it’s much the same in Hollywood which is why I think you’ve seen somewhat of a shift of celebs making their own announcements via social media etc. Obviousky social media is a bit of a gray area for the royal family but I really think that’s the direction pr and reporting in general is going. This whole debacle over the past few months just proves there’s nothing to say or report unless a royal family member says or does it themselves on the record.
I really think pregnancy hormones are to blame. And Kate’s tears have become way too over discussed and melodramatic. I’m sure Kate has caused other to cry. Let’s move on.
The problem with this whole ‘Meghan made Kate cry’ story is what these sources are saying doesn’t match what has actually been said by people who haven’t hidden their identity. Claire said Meghan knew exactly what she wanted for her gown and the bridesmaids from Day One. Meghan even had special details for all the kids; their initials were actually sewed onto the outfits so they could keep them and remember the wedding and all the bridesmaids got necklaces as a gift from their godmother/new aunt. Givenchy confirmed Meghan had only seen drawings of the veil and didn’t actually see it or try it on until the morning of and she was completely relaxed about the whole affair. Also, after the wedding it had been confirmed, Meghan commissioned six gold bracelets from ZOFIA DAY for all her female friends involved in the ceremony and made the special effort to gift one to Kate. Doesn’t sound like a bridezilla who makes people cry or a last minute planned wedding to me
Facts don’t sell. Fostering the narrative that the uppity American bridezilla made English rose holy mother Queen of Hearts Catherine cry does.
But WHY??? WHY does it sell?? I love the story Lily says. It’s a beautiful story about love and happiness and thoughtful, loving gestures. Why don’t facts sell? I don’t click on the DM stories, cause I know Celebitchy will, and I don’t want to add to their click numbers. Are people reading the stories more than once, d’you think?
I don’t even understand how this is a thing. As someone who takes a lot of prednisone, I can relate to Big Feelings About Things that Are Not Things that come out of nowhere … but after that mood has passed I don’t dwell on whatever the issue was. And usually apologize to whoever I had Big Feelings at. Non-issue.
I’m doing prednisone too,the emotions that can surface and explode never fail to leave me stunned at myself.I hope you are well,whatever you’re taking it for.
What really grinds my gears is how skewed the stories about Meghan are, taking away any agency from Kate. Like, if I got a tough email from my boss and cried, my preferred headline would be, “employee overwhelmed by life takes a moment to vent and cry, then returns to work”. Not “mean boss crushes employee’s hopes and dreams so she cried her angel heart out.” For Kate, it’s like, “Meghan is so meeeeaaannnn!!!” If Kate is behind all of this, she’s telling the world that she’s ok with the victim narrative. And Kate’s not a victim, I don’t believe that for one second.
There is a strong possibility that this story is fabricated. HA!
*SNORT*
I’m more inclined to believe that Megan wanted the dress more baggy and Kate wanted it more fitted, not the other way around. Just look at their wedding dresses to see their preferences.
I think you’re right. The dress does look a little big on her.
The same old garbage and still the source didn’t say why Kate cried LOL
Charlotte’s dress didn’t fit her. I noticed that on the day of the wedding. It’s not just baggy vs. fitted. It’s the whole dress. Now, IF this story is true, perhaps Kate mentioned the dress didn’t fit to an already stressed Meghan, and Meghan couldn’t be bothered and told her tough beans. That’s what I would have done. A 3 year olds dress only gets so much of a brides attention.
Has anyone noticed that in the group wedding photo Kate is leaning away from Doria and the smile on her face isn’t very genuine?
OMG seriously, enough with the conspiracy crap.
I’m not starting any conspiracy crap just asking a question about something I noticed when the photos came out and thought I’d ask if anyone else noticed it.
Oh please. I’m not crazy about Kate, but thats silly. So is Kate supposed to stare into Dorias eyes with a beaming grin and open arms? Did you notice Kates hat was tilted over the side of her face, so actually she probably couldn’t see anyone next to and behind her anyway and she had her daughter on her lap who looks like she wasn’t sitting still. You’re going to judge her by a smile or position in one picture? That’s reaching to find something offensive.
No Beth, I certainly do not expect Kate to stare into Doria’s eyes “with a beaming smile and open arms” and you made an excellent point about a squirmy Charlotte, which I will admit I didn’t think about. Nor am I trying to find something offensive, just as I said above, it was something I noticed and was wondering if anyone else saw it the same way I did.
@ThirstyHirsty – do you SERIOUSLY give a crap? LIke…SERIOUSLY????????????????
Right? The lengths people will go to are ridiculous. She’s holding a toddler in her lap, I strongly doubt she was focused on angling away from her SIL’s mother.
Yup. That body language is very telling.
I also love how she wore an “off white” dress to the wedding knowing she would be in the wedding photos. So disgusting.
Can someone tell me, please, why the Mulroney girl is the only girl NOT wearing her flowers as a headband? She sticks out specifically cause she’s wearing her flowers at the back of her head, not on the top like all the other little girls. Can someone explain to me, please, why THAT isn’t a huge story??? I’d click on that story …she is, after all, representing Canada, a Commonwealth country, so just HOW is she allowed to get away with being so obviously different from the rest of the group? That is the MUCH more important question, IMO
Maybe she took them off and misplaced them or took them off right before the picture was taken and nobody noticed. I honestly didn’t notice until you mentioned it, but it’s still a lovely picture, and they all look good
Hahaha I know you are being facetious, but it’s funny. In case anyone was wondering, she never had anything in her hair during the wedding, so it’s either a decision or in the panic leading up they were lost/forgotten. What did stick out in my head is that she did not have a bouquet during the wedding, she carried Meghan’s later. But in the children’s picture with the new couple, she used another bridesmaids bouquet, who then had nothing to hold. In this picture above, they are sharing it. I think that may show the last minute details forgotten, like an extra bouquet for the bridesmaid holding Meghan’s to be used later, or last minute fittings, where the tailor asks Kate, I thought she was a size 3, and Kate cries because her baby is growing up, or the tailor reminded her of a Hallmark movie or something.
Yes, girl I noticed! It’s so ugly. Like Kate is anything special.
Yep, noticed that. Definitely leaning away.
Not the leaning away, but I thought her smile was more of a grimace.
She has a toddler on her lap. That’s how I look in most of my pictures where I’m holding a toddler. Reading ANYTHING else into it is ridiculous. That probably explains her “grimace” too. There are plenty of things to criticize her on without reaching.
Nope,it’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s a picture that people are looking at with their own eyes. The RF know those things are going to be scrutinized, the fact that’s Kate’s body language is like that, is highly problematic. You don’t have to agree or like it, but people will have opinions and that’s understandable.
They get a professional photographer and Kate’s body language still looked off. It’s not like it was a sears portrait with only a 30 minute appointment. This picture was the best of the bunch and everyone else managed to convey a more relaxed and happy smile. Even William and he normally can look grumpy. And it’s not like we haven’t seen Kate give a good smile elsewhere. She didn’t in this photo though.
That’s ridiculous and reaching.
I think the layout/spacing of the chairs and everyone in the photo was really strange. I don’t think she’s angling away so much as angling to what she considers her good side while trying to keep a hold of Charlotte.
So was Meghan altering the fit herself? I still don’t understand why Meghan would be supervising the fit of the dress or if she would specifically want Charlotte to look bad at her own wedding. This story still doesn’t make sense outside of Kate being emotional due to hormones.
I suspect that the dispute, if there was any, was not over whether the dress was ill fitting or not (they probably agreed it was), but had to do with the fact that everything was last minute and disorganized and this stressed everyone out. So maybe Kate was upset because it was too late to get a new dress size or fix things if the fitting was so last minute.
Everything was disorganized? What?
Maybe Kate was additionally stressed because her own husband was being such an ass about this marriage…
My young kids are about to be in a wedding, and we asked the dresses to be made big in case they grew. They are too big, but we will either (a) later them or (b) not care too much because they are 4 years old, and they are not the focal point of the wedding. However, I am sure Kate was super post partum hormonal- I cried all the time for a few months after my kids were born.
Who the hell cares what a 3 year old in a basic white dress looks like???????
@Sonia, Seriously, and if Kate wanted to make this about her and her daughters dress fit, its just not a good look out of the gate. It’s super petty and childish, especially considering what Meghan had going on with her horrible dad. Like, seriously, a nice person would just shut up about minor details and not fuss with the bride who is already being assailed by crappy people in her family and media. It’s super inconsiderate of Kate if its true. There is always who has to make things about themselves, even at someone else’s wedding.
I’m choosing not to believe any of it. It’s sad the way they’re pitting these two. Nevertheless, pregger hormones are beastly. Before and after delivery. Ya just never knew when I was going to ugly cry. I could be laughing hysterically one second then morph into teary histrionics because my bath water wasn’t hot enough or the sear on my son’s grilled cheese was too dark.
I suspect Kate was really hormonal and cried over how adorable Charlotte looked! Just one of those little moments.
I can understand wanting changes if the dress was uncomfortable, as someone said you don’t want a miserable child in your wedding party. The bridesmaid dresses looked cheap to me and Charlotte’s didn’t hang well in some photos BUT did anyone really look closely at her dress until there was apparently an issue. Not me.
I have to disagree about Kate being a bitch wearing cream. It looks like soft yellow in a lot of photos and all the ladies apart from TQ were is very soft hues. Meghan was glowing in bright white and nobody was taking the attention away from her. I think they all co-ordinated creating a soft harmonious backdrop for the bride. Kate not wearing blue or green to Eugenie’s wedding was probably more of a deliberate snub.
Ha, when I was watching the wedding I remember thinking that the dress did not look good and poor fitting on Charlotte. I chalked it up to a bad style though and didn’t think about actual fittings.
And regardless of whether this happened or not, they went to Wimbledon together after this and seemed just fine. Seems this is either made up or wildly exaggerated.
I vote for made up, simply because these details could’ve easily been included in the initial story several weeks ago. That it took so long for “sources” to give a simple reason for the crying tells me that the architect(s) of these stories is trying to see what sticks.
I don’t believe this story… because Meghan’s dress was ill fitting. If she was that OCD surely she would have insisted that her dress fit perfectly?
Possible scenario:
1) Meghan wanted simple loose white gowns in a subtle nod to African-American culture
2) Kate objected for some reason and word was passed to Meghan
3) Meghan would not let Kate dictate changes
4) Kate burst into tears?
This is ridiculous.
Interesting thought. Can you explain how “simple loose gowns” are a nod to AA culture?
I was thinking of white gowns for river baptisms and gospel choir robes – I associate both with AA churches.
any type of gospel choir robes would have looked undignified on children due to their shorter body height. And full-length robes for 3-years-old would have likely made them stumble.
I didn’t mean those literally, but impressions evoked by choosing simple loose gowns over fussy structured ones.
Am I the only one who feels like the majority of royal stories coming out lately are pure fiction? Perhaps there is some truth to the stories, but it feels like it’s mostly just British journalists looking to come up with some exciting drama.
You’re not the only one. British tabloids are making the BRF look like a dramatic soap opera, and it’s making things really bad because some people believe everything they read must be true even though the stories are from tabloids
Are they thinking of making a “Real Housewives of Windsor?” series…. This could be episode one… Any chance Kate and Meghan can get on with the serious business of working for Queen and country?
I love the Windsors! I hope there’s another series!
Maybe this story can just die now. Clearly it’s total BS. Especially the part where Meghan wanted a better fit and structure. If she was asking for that for any dress, she should have been asking for it for her own.
I think Kate hated to be at the wedding because she was self conscious about her pregnancy weight. She was in a mood for sure. Think that’s why she likes to take maternity leaves as well so she can focus on getting thin again.
I bet there is a grain of truth in the story. Kate cried- whether from emotion, stress, etc and someone asked why. She was unable to verbalize it because she was just overly emotional so someone ran with it and it became Meghan’s fault through a game of grapevine.
I know this is going to sound crazy, but hear me out, media…weddings are stressful and emotional. Sometimes people cry over stupid shit while getting them ready because of that. Nobody’s really a monster, it just…like…happens. Sometimes, they’re even crying because they’re happy!
😂 It certainly took them long enough to come up with details for this “story”. Why was this not included with the initial report? It seems whoever is behind these hit pieces is scrambling. The tiara story was quietly edited weeks after it came out, and now this.
The tiara story still doesn’t make any sense. No way Meghan gets angry because she can’t wear a certain tiara. Meghan isn’t stupid enough to pick a fight with the Queen before the wedding
Know what else I was thinking – if there was in fact a tiara that Meghan wanted to wear, deep breath, why the H E double L couldn’t she just wear it? Who cares about it’s “provenence” or whatever bull they cited as a reason why she couldn’t. Again these stories make the entire institution look ridiculously fussy and out of touch.
That said I think the story is a complete fabrication.
Nonsensical or not, the tiara was the Queen’s property and it is her/her designee’s decision. It does call into question their competence if the tiara was offered and then the offer rescinded.
When there’s a hereditary monarchy with no tradition of abdication and the monarch is in her nineties, it comes with the territory that the culture will be out-of-touch.
At this point, I think Meghan picked the emerald tiara and Eugenie and Andrew overruled her which upset Harry. The Queen ended up siding with vile Andrew.
It’s a party dress for a 3-year-old. How much disagreement can there be about the fit? It’s not like Charlotte is going to complain that it makes her hips look too wide. And Kate isn’t going to say that she is not going to let her daughter out in public in that hoochie-mama rag.
If you google you find pics from the bridesmaids walking up the stairs of the church. Charlotte’s dress is loser around the waist while the other bridesmaids have an adult-looking waistline (smaller) and hips (wider) in those dresses. Usually children are “straight and flat” from shoulders to upper legs” as they don’t have adult curves yet.
Yes, but who else was present at the fitting that could have revealed this information?
It is the brides day, and the mothers of the bridesmaids should have deferred to the brides wishes. Did Meghan make any other childrens mother’s cry over the fitting? 🙄
If you want to see how the dresses on the little girls were supposed to look, look no further than her BFF’S daughter and the differences between her dress and all the other little girls. I wonder what was really going on.
In google’s pics the other little bridesmaid’s dresses seem to be tighter around the hips giving them both a waistline and hips. I don’t like that for little girls. Charlotte’s dress seems to be a bit more lose around the waistline.
As a mother of Charlotte Kate should have the last say concerning her daugther’s dress! She is her daugther.
If Kate left upset I guess Meghan put her foot down. The dresses look simple. I guess they were ment to be artistically simplistic which would fit with Meghan’s bridal dress. I think simplistic cuts just doesn’t work on children as their proportions are different.
Hmm. I understand that Kate’s hormones were all over the place – but honestly, after all the reports about how she treats staff/other women etc. I don’t care. And then she wore the off-white dress at the wedding and pulled faces the whole way through. She’s rude and immature.
I have to agree.