The Sussexes & Cambridges buried the royal hatchet for Christmas at Sandringham

Royals Xmas Day church

The Christmas Day walk-to-church at Sandringham was hyped like one of the biggest gossip events of the year. And maybe it was? For months, we’ve been hearing about “the war” between the duchesses, Kate and Meghan. We’ve heard that Meg is a terrible diva and Kate is a steel marshmallow who cries when Meghan is a terrible diva. We’ve heard a million different versions of “these two women are completely different and they don’t get along at all.” After all that hype, the Cambridges and the Sussexes walked together peacefully to church at Sandringham on Christmas Day. There was no hair-pulling, so side-eyes, no hisses or bitch-slaps. Meghan and Kate even made a point of walking side-by-side, at the same pace, down the lane.

If you want me to be a total gossip, I’ll say that the body language that interests me the most is not the stuff between Kate and Meghan – they’re clearly trying to get along, and trying to be SEEN trying to get along. No, the most interesting body language is between Harry and William. THEY look like they’re barely speaking to each other. Which gives another dimension to Meg and Kate’s sisterly display – they’re two sisters-in-law trying to get their husbands to get along on Christmas. Several days before Christmas, a “source” told People Mag that Harry has been “really grumpy” lately and “something has changed, and no one can quite put their finger on it. He looks cross with the world.” I suspect Harry is legit grumpy with the smear campaign against his wife for the past five weeks?

Fashion notes: Kate wore a new-to-us Catherine Walker coat dress with a velvet collar and cuffs. Something similar would retail for about £3,000. (Look, VELVET BUTTONS.) She’s also been trying to up her shoe game recently – these are dark red/burgundy Jimmy Choos. She’s also been trying to make giant headbands and headpieces happen all year – her Christmas headband was by Jane Taylor. Meghan, on the other hand, chose a more low-key look in navy – she’s in Victoria Beckham, almost entirely. That’s a VB coat, dress, boots and bag. I love her navy feathered fascinator.

Last thing: reportedly, Meghan is fine with Harry hunting on Boxing Day, so maybe that will happen/is happening?

Royals Xmas Day church

Royals Xmas Day church

Royals Xmas Day church

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  1. Anna says:

    I don’t think there was anything between Kate and Meghan. I think the beef is between Harry and William.

    • Eleonor says:

      Exactly.

    • Sash says:

      Same. I don’t think Kate and Meghan need to try to be anything, they get on very well and are warm with each other. There never was a rivalry.

      Now William and Harry…

      • Peg says:

        Why should there be a rivalry between the brothers? William is the future King.
        Now Harry is married they will be changes, he is not the third wheel anymore.
        Maybe Harry is not babysitting as often.

      • Bettyrose says:

        Peg,

        Sibling rivalry doesn’t require a rational explanation tho.

      • Olive says:

        and sibling rivalry can go back so far that no explanation will even be rational to outsiders! it can be deep-seated stuff

      • Himmiefan says:

        I agree about there never being a rivalry between Kate and Meghan. We all knew ahead of time that there would be headlines about a rivalry. It ‘s interesting, as in stupid, that to the media, Kate and Meghan have to be either best friends or worst enemies. I’m sure they’re on good terms and spend their time with their own projects. People don’t have to be besties to get along.

    • minx says:

      Agree. They each know what side their bread is buttered on, come on. But the female catfight angle is irresistible for tabloids.

      • otaku fairy says:

        The catfight angle has got to be annoying for famous women. Two people could be not exactly bffs, but still on friendly terms and feel like they have to turn it up a few notches in public just to squash feud rumors.
        I like Kate’s red coat dress.

    • SickandTired says:

      I agree. Kate is busy with her kids and as a Capricorn, doesn’t seem to be all that aggressive. Meghan isn’t stupid. Why would she feud with her sister in law when she is the newest member of the family. I think she would try to be as accomodating as possible. I can see her maybe snapping at a staff member and Kate getting cross, but I can’t see her directly arguing with Kate.
      I do think William and Harry are not talking. Maybe the story of William telling Harry to slow down is true, but that was a while ago, so why would Harry be angry now? No, something else happened, more recently, and Harry looks absolutely miserable. Barely a smile all day and when he did smile, he looked pained. I wonder if he is thinking of just stepping away from it all, living on his inheritance, and moving away. I think if all of this bothers him so much, he and Meghan should do that. At least she could speak out again and not curtsy to other human beings.

      • xdanix says:

        Eh, I don’t know if I’d read TOO much into Harry looking a bit miserable yesterday. I absolutely agree that if there is tension it’s between the brothers, and there may well be something going on there (I think it’s MUCH more likely than the “feud” between the women) but Harry has also looked fairly grumpy in a LOT of pictures from a LOT of Christmases past. Just like other years, there’s also pictures of him looking smiley from yesterday.

      • Olenna says:

        @SickandTired, please post the link(s) where we can all see where Harry has “Barely a smile all day and when he did smile, he looked pained”. “All day” is at least Lifetime movie-length viewing.

      • Bettyrose says:

        Sickandtired x100000. Meg was never naive enough to think she enter the RF unscathed, and she certainly knows now. No way is she getting petty with Kate.

      • RBC says:

        There is a photo of the two couples and Prince Charles walking down some stairs yesterday. Kate is seen smiling , Charles out front, then Meghan and Harry not far away. William in back is looking at Meghan and Harry with a sour look on his face.
        Maybe it was just the cold or the photo was taken at a moment when he was deep in thought. But it certainly looked like he was giving Meghan and Harry a serious stink eye.

      • Comment is cheap says:

        I would read something into Harry looking miserable: he does royal duties for years and he knows he should at least pretend to be happy during these and he knows he will be papped. If he doesn’t manage not even on Christmas then that is not good.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        “Pained”? That’s funny, because there are several pictures where he looks quite cheerful (particularly when he’s just walking with Meghan and not clustered with the rest of the family). I suppose people will see what they want to see.

      • MrsBeast says:

        Yep. In all the videos of this, Harry barely smiles. Last year he was grinning. He seems guarded and tense. If you compare videos are Harry in public to this one, you can see a CLEAR difference.

    • PrincessK says:

      Who knows if its true but according to DM sources if William did indeed tell the Queen that Meghan was not a suitable wife for Harry, that speaks volumes. William’s behaviour towards the more popular Harry reeks of jealousy. William would never want Harry to have a more accomplished and popular wife. Meghan has worldwide popularity, the British Monarchy is the world’s premier monarchy, with influence beyond Britain’s boundaries. William is incensed that Harry’s wife is not just stunningly beautiful but is intelligent and makes things happen. Poor Kate’s role was to be the quiet wife and mother, two steps behind William, but because of Meghan she has to change her approach and step up. I am really inclined to blame William for all of this, I’ve never heard him say anything nice about Harry, only put downs, and Meghan won’t let this happen anymore.

      • Cherie says:

        And still managed to get a dig in

      • Saltandbake says:

        Kate is also very popular in the UK & abroad. The Cambridge tours also draws large crowds. Kate has always had good approval ratings and barring a major scandal her position is very secure. As future Queen consort & mother of the future King she will always remain at the forefront & central to the future of the monarchy.

        Also the primary people the BRF have to appease are the British public who fund their lifestyles. If the British public grow tired of the monarchy then they will get rid of it and the rest of the world does not get to have a say. Meghan might be an American citizen but America does not get to dictate matters concerning the British monarchy. The power of the commonwealth has also been massively overplayed

      • rukidding says:

        Do you know them personally? You write as if you do…

      • xo says:

        I suspect William & Meghan just have incompatible personalities. Her confident assertion might rub him the wrong way, given that he likes to be in control. He may disapprove of her for other reasons, but I suspect that personality clash is at the heart of the problem.

        I went back and looked at some clips of William’s recent engagements on Youtube. He can be a real twit, guys.

      • Muffy says:

        Meghan does not have “worldwide popularity”. She’s had a similar career as a Rutina Wesley—one supporting role in a cable series (and actually Rutina has the more prestigious career, with two series under her belt). MM was not a household name.

        She’s a very pretty woman and seems lovely but not the second coming of mother Teresa or the savior of the BRF—she’s an actress who married a royal almost out of the line of succession.

      • Princessk says:

        I wish people would stop calling her a second rate actress. My comment had nothing to do with her career as an actress, l am referring to her soaring international popularity since she and Harry became an item. The world’s media are watching Meghan Markle, and that proves that the interest is there.

      • Wowsers says:

        Kate and Will are both more popular than Meghan. Yougov poll. Your analysis makes no sense.

      • Derriere says:

        It’s funny when people pull out poll numbers. Yes, Will and Kate are more popular, but if you think about it…why? They are the definition of (white) mediocrity getting rewarded for doing the bare minimum. So congrats. The UK is pretty on par with the USA in that respect. Look at who we elected! Meghan may not have been a big-time Hollywood actress, but she had a successful career and will continue to strive for excellence. Kate did not. Harry, apart from a tumultuous young adulthood, has cleaned up and heads up a couple of noteworthy charitable organizations. To my knowledge, William does not. So they’re great in the polls…so what? It says more about the people citing these polls in the comments than anything else.

      • Nic919 says:

        Since the royal family doesn’t really run by popularity the polls are mostly irrelevant. But the crowds at the recent tour were record breaking in Commonwealth countries and that would matter more than an online poll. Especially in countries that had republican tendencies. Something about that tour really shook people up whether it was Charles’s courtiers or KP, but all the trash Meghan stories from things that happened months ago started in earnest then. Someone has a problem with how popular Harry and Meghan were and how successful that tour was.

        As for trashing Meghan about how popular she was before she started dating Harry. What’s the point? She is definitely known worldwide now. Pretending she was less popular than an actress on true blood doesn’t matter at this point.

      • Tessy says:

        Lol… You have the start of a dandy harlequin there if nothing else.

    • M.A.F. says:

      I agree as well.

    • Gia90 says:

      I never believe one feud story for a second. I rarely clicked on the Mail stories, the Mail just sounds like all made up , nasty lies to smear. Whole feud stories wer fake and Media has egg in their faces. I think the UK media has invented the whole story of rift and the U.K. Media just wanted to smear Meghan and taint anything she and Harry accomplished this year.

      LIeing UK media has egg on their faces , but won’t admit it was all lies they made up.

      A Racist , hateful , lieing smear campaign. IMO

      • Some chick says:

        I agree. Sometimes I peep the Daily Fail, but I try to avoid it. It’s utter garbage. Rubbish!

        The one thing it does show is that Meghan is incredibly popular, like it or not. She sells papers and generates clicks. They can’t deny it, so they attack her. I also think that her Black Girl Magic really chaps some of the old white asses. Princess Michael isn’t the only racist in England.

        Personally… I think William is PETTY, and is behind all of this.

    • jwoolman says:

      This alleged “feud” makes no sense at all. Neither woman seems likely to engage in such behavior. On the contrary, they would more likely join forces.

      Maybe the brothers are unhappy with each other for some reason, but that can happen in families. Hopefully temporary if so. But it all could be entirely fictional.

  2. Lily says:

    There is no drama, it’s a smear campaign against a mixed raced pregnant lady, who must be seen as the villain because she’s getting more attention than the more senior members of the family. Sexism, Classism and Racism all at play. Meghan is not perfect and I’m sure she has many flaws but there is literally zero evidence this drama exists and/or she’s the reason for it.

    • Nan says:

      Let’s not forget “Waity” Katy, the girl who (HOW DARE SHE!!!!!!!!!) just married the future king like she ISN’T a peasant! This is all so obviously nonsense. Then again, me coming here to deconvert people from this fantasy is a bit like going to church to disabuse people of *that* demonstrably false nonsense.

      • PrincessK says:

        The sad thing is that we have two women who are unfairly being blamed for a feud between two brothers and being forced to comply to present a united front. Women always get the blame and always have to play the role of peacemaker, whilst the two men involved seemed to make zero effort to present any sign of friendship during that walk.

      • minx says:

        It’s a male thing, act out all you please and let your wives clean up the mess. I’ve seen it all my life—fortunately not from my husband but from plenty others.

    • Amie says:

      I think it’s more in line with the entertainment press cycle: they tend to help build a celebrity up and tear them down again when they’re at the top. All for clicks – I’ve seen it happen quite a few times.

    • Bella Bella says:

      I wholeheartedly agree. The whole thing is fabricated, people! Don’t believe the hype!! If you know anyone famous, you know how many false stories get put out there. The Meg slamming is pure poppycock invented to sell papers and get hits online. Remember Obama and his birth certificate nonsense?

  3. RBC says:

    Maybe the Queen channeled her inner Rupaul and said to the two couples: “ Here stand before me two wannabe Kings and two wannabe Queens. When you walk to church on Christmas Day you will SMILE FOR YOUR LIVES!!! and don’t f#*k it up!!!”

  4. Eliza says:

    Diana said they’d use the kids as a buffer at events. Position them between them so they didn’t have to interact. War or the Wales Part II continues to look more and more true.

    The boys appear to be using their wives as a buffer from each other, while the lady’s actually work to fix the PR.

    • Jewell says:

      Isn’t that always the way? The women in the royal family do the emotional and PR heavy lifting whilst the boys (and I do mean *boyd*) stand back and do the bare minimum.

      • Jewell says:

        *boys, not boyd. Too late to edit now

      • Bettyrose says:

        Jewell,
        I don’t think the RF has a copyright on that behavior.

      • Jewell says:

        You’re definitely right on that one Bettyrose, but it just seems to be right in the forefront of the BRF; Charles letting Diana bear the brunt of the media attention, Philip carrying that chip on his shoulder that he’s ‘merely’ the Queen’s consort (although that’s certainly mellowed as he’s aged).
        William hiding behind Kate’s maternity leave to justify his general lack of work ethic, Andrew throwing Fergie under the bus. It’s a poor, poor habit.

      • Bettyrose says:

        Jewell,

        Hey, we just found something “normal” about the BRF. LOL!

    • Megan says:

      I think Kate and Meghan are walking side-by- side to shut down feud rumors. They are relaxed and chatty. The next photo op will show William and Harry looking relaxed and chatty.

  5. Serphina says:

    I think the boys aren’t getting along – Harry’ has spread his wings and flown to green pastures and of course he would. I also think there may be some tension between the two Duchesses but the media loves a good cat fight so they tend to make that more of a deal than it is. They keep recycling the same stories over and over again.

  6. Peg says:

    Someone said she was not cupping her belly because the Queen was there, but I thought how can she cup her belly and hold Harry at the same time.
    Another of her former Instagram followers was in the crowd, so of course Meghan hugged her.
    Daddy dearest was in Mexico with his girlfriend and daughter, staging pictures of him being Shopping cart Santa, wonder if the dailymail paid for the toys, I did not see that picture, but someone said he was wearing a NorthWestern jacket, bet that was Scammy’s Christmas gift.

    • TeamAwesome says:

      Honestly, after seeing the video from the visit to the care home for retired performers that shows a Baby Sussex foot or elbow trying to pop out her belly Alien style, I will double down on thinking girl should cup or double cup as much as she needs. The baby is clearly going through a very active phase.

  7. Peg says:

    There not much difference in cost between the two outfits, Kate headband cost over £600. Just saying, why get bent out of shape, the price of Meghan’s clothes is all over the Net.
    The post I replied to, seems to have disappeared.

  8. Cidy says:

    Well both women look lovely. I wish Meg would have worn lighter colors, shes looking a little funeral ish here. But they both look good.

    The tension does appear between the boys. I think people WANT there to be a big catfight between the girls, rather than face the music that the two dudes have always been divas (YES EVEN HARRY).

    • WineGrrrl says:

      I agree. I especially like the color of Kate’s stockings. I don’t know if they’re off-black and are reflecting a bit of the red from her shoes/coat, but the shade is just right for the outfit.

  9. LORENA says:

    There is even a photo of Meghan putting her hand on Kate’s back… EPIC

  10. Mei says:

    Meghan’s VB boots are divine. Trying to find clean, classic, nicely shaped black boots is such a drag -_-

  11. Elena says:

    I feel for Meghan as I have inlaw drama these holidays. I made Rigatoni and they don’t want it, plus my nieces can only have skim milk apparently and they want store bought cinnamon buns 😳

    • Peg says:

      That’s what make holidays fun, LOL.
      The good thing is, hopefully it will be awhile before you see them again.🦃day.

    • Chatty Cath says:

      Oh how awful!

    • M.A.F. says:

      That kind of nonsense- they should bring their own food next time if they have specific dietary needs (the milk, not the cinnamon buns because who wouldn’t want homemade cinnamon buns!).

    • Tessy says:

      My daughter sprayed sticky carbonated apple cider all over the dining room, we are still cleaning it up. Oh well, it’s not as bad as the year she broke a glass over top of the turkey when I was carving it.

  12. Leyton says:

    I think the issues are between William and Harry. William has always benefited from Harry look like a jester in his court. I don’t think Harry’s willing to play that role any longer and especially not his wife and unborn child play along too. There is a power struggle between them.

    Future King or not, William needs to realize that he doesn’t control Harry. Harry doesn’t have to bend over backwards to please him and I think he’s finally realizing that he won’t.

    It’s easy to paint the rift between the two women who are probably supporting their husbands on two different sides but yeah, it’s the Wales Boys with the issues here. Charles and the Queen probably told them to play nice.

    Unfortunately for them, William look like a jerk the entire time. He ignored EVERYONE (Sussex’s and his wife).

    • PrincessK says:

      William is awful and treats Kate like a doormat, and is unhappy that Meghan has stepped in and stopped him treating Harry like a doormat too.

    • Elizabeth R says:

      Did anyone see the video on the DM of the Queen’s car leaving and Meghan, Kate curtsying ? What I found notable is that Harry bowed his head as usual (male version of curtsy/acknowledgement) and William definitely did not. Chewed his lips in apparent tension instead. Watched the clip several times, very curious.

      • Lady D says:

        I saw that, too. I was wondering why he didn’t bow.
        Seriously impressed with Meghan’s ability to rise after her deep curtsey. She didn’t wobble in the least.
        I also saw a video on the DM of a golden retriever with anxiety issues receiving a mini-me pup for Christmas to help her with her anxiety. It was beyond adorable, it almost made me cry it was so cute.

      • Elisa says:

        Nah, there is an InStyle video on YT (“RF leaving church 2018″) shot from another angle where you see William bowing his head first, followed by Kate curtsying and Harry simultaneously bowing his head. Meghan is the last one to curtsy and then turning her head towards Will&Kate and smiling at them.
        The DM video is obviously shot from that angle.

      • Original Jenns says:

        It’s possible William has already greeted her that day. They only have to do the bows and curtsies the first time they meet her that day. I notice a lot of times Eugenie and Bea don’t, because they’ve already been with her earlier that morning.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Yes, William seemed especially off-putting yesterday. I thought it was telling that Kate interacted with Meghan and walked far closer to her than Will in all the photos and videos of the Christmas walk itself.

    • xo says:

      Come to think of it, given his position, Harry’s choice of wife might be one of the few things in William’s life that he has been unable to control.

    • Polly says:

      He bowed at the queen first in the footage I saw. Just like there are plenty of pics of Harry looking miserable, there are some of William looking grumpy, but these are moments in time and they both have resting b*tch face like the queen. I saw footage of William looking cheerful and laughing with the others and of Harry smiling at his wife, so it’s not like they were miserable for the whole walk.

  13. SV says:

    Anyone who has ever seen William and Harry interviewed together shouldn’t be surprised that there is tension. There has always been tension and rivarlry. The difference now is that Harry at the end of the day would say his first loyalty was to William. That’s changed now to Meghan.

    • Piper says:

      Think your right. And since it’s not new, it’s probably not a big deal in the end.

      People like to throw around that William will be king so that’s why there’s tension but they’ve known that their whole life and it doesn’t change that the two will fight over many things that have nothing to do with heir apparent. I don’t even follow WH but I remember Harry famously saying as a kid, William I’m not future king and I can be free to do what I want. Who knows what they could be fighting over or it’s their usual MO. Or Harry could be upset how he and his wife are portrayed and he wants William to step up just support of him. Who knows.

    • Ewe says:

      I agree. I’ve always seen it like Will has some form of resentment that Harry got away with so much probably *because* he’s not the future king, and perhaps he’s felt burdened by his role (hence him doing the absolute least).

      And the gossipy side of me has always thought that he settled for Kate cos nobody else’d have him, and now he resents that Harry married the person he wanted not caring that everyone told him not to.

      • PrincessK says:

        @Ewe….I agree that William resents the fact that Harry had a choice of women. I firmly believe that if Harry had really wanted Chelsey or Cressida he could have had either one of them. William seemed to be saddled with Kate very early on and desperately wanted, as a future King, to have a good search and look around for a partner, but not only did nobody want him, I feel that William is too proud or shy to really go all out for what he wanted. Whereas Harry got what he wanted.

      • Ewe says:

        @PrincessK I’m their age and remember Will’s “dating/searching” for someone other than Kate and hearing that nobody wanted him. I may be wrong, but I don’t think he married Kate for love, but rather out of convenience; she’s always struck me as the archetypal non-descript woman to support her man and give him heirs. Whether that has grown to become, I don’t know… Love, maybe yes – passion: oh, pffft nope – never!

        I live in Sweden, so I know what our – and other Scandinavian – royals have said about him, and some of the other European royals…

        I’ve had so many conversations with “royalist” friends about this – all speculations, of course – but I love it. We’re like either he’d love to have the type of woman Meghan is, but is too scared/shy/unattractive/uninteresting to to ever go for it (she seems too strong-willed a woman for him) or he’d never want the type of woman Meghan is, and resents that Harry chose her. I want to fast forward a few years to see where things stand :)

      • PrincessK says:

        @Ewe …A very interesting analysis.

  14. LizB says:

    No mention that Kate has the exact same coat in green ?

    • xo says:

      It’s been mentioned elsewhere. I think it’s a lovely cut & suits her beautifully. You?

      • LizB says:

        I know it has been mentioned elsewhere – but it wasn’t here, which is why I said something.

        It is fine. Kate is very slim/above average height and can make just about anything work. Having the same coat in more than one colour, which she does a lot, seems wasteful to me.

      • Lorelei says:

        I agree with LIzB. It is wasteful and ridiculous for Kate to have so many duplicate items in different colors. Not to mention unimaginative! She’s so boring, honestly.

      • Anon says:

        Yes, and Meghan also has a lovely new collection of navy blue coats which she could have worn as well. What about the blue maternity coat she wore to Eugenie’s wedding? That coat would have been better, as her outfit is pictured in videos & in pics as black – funeral type colours, and not very festive.

  15. Flying fish says:

    If you’re looking for a feud, look to William and Harry.
    I agree with the other comments, Harry did not look like his usual happy self. He seemed withdrawn and distant.
    As per the fashion, I wasn’t impressed.

  16. Case says:

    The extreme drama between the four of them is pure fiction, I think. All families have issues and arguments and don’t get along at times, and I think that is being blown way out of proportion here.

    Honestly? I think the smear campaign is coming from Charles. The “Fab Four” are so well-liked even though he is next in line. Perhaps he wanted to paint them in a different, less-flattering light.

  17. PrincessK says:

    It was interesting to see Charles striding out in front with his two sons and wives behind, it was all very well stage managed to make it look as though Charles was in control and putting everything in order.

    But where was Camilla? She does seem to be missing an awful lot of family events lately. I don’t buy the story of her ‘cold’. I hope that they have not uncovered her as the primary source of all the leaks, and she is now lying low.

    • Tina says:

      Camilla’s health is not good in general. She smoked for a long time (may still do) and upper respiratory issues are much worse when you smoke. Also, her mother and grandmother both died of osteoporosis.

    • Lexa says:

      I thought so, too, PrincessK. He definitely wanted to be in those pictures and out ahead of them for the message it gave. There was also a story in the Sun that got picked up elsewhere that the Queen and Prince Charles ordered the two women to get along, and that’s why they did.

      • Andrea says:

        I read somewhere Camilla has a very bad cold.

      • PrincessK says:

        I don’t buy the Camilla has a cold story, I think that she wants to spend time with her children and grand children over Christmas. I wonder when she will next make an appearance at a royal family function. I bet she is not at Sandringham.

  18. Meadow says:

    This is tagged with Prince Henrik and not Harry.

  19. mina says:

    Am I am the only one who was really looking to see Royal photos during Christmas??? I think I am addicted to the Royals!!!! Loove to see photos of what they are wearing and what the heck they are doing. :/

  20. Feebee says:

    It’s only one look but the photo of the two ladies together, to me anyway, doesn’t look like women who aren’t getting along, or who don’t like each other.

    Of course if the problem is between the brothers and not Kate and Meghan, it’s pretty selfish to keep it going/staying publicly quiet about, say, the move to Windsor, while the wives cop it in the papers. I know the royals don’t “say anything”‘ but while times change I’d hate to see history repeated particularly involving Diana’s sons.

  21. Cara says:

    I think there is definitely William/Harry drama. I know we all like Harry and William is a petulant and self-centered, but I don’t think the drama is all Williams fault. The dynamic between them is shifting – on one hand, Harry is stepping out of Williams shadow (and control), and he and Meghan are extremely popular, which I am sure bothers William hugely. On the other hand, the brothers have thus far been more or less equal in their RF standing. But with the queen slowing down, and the brothers grown, William’s status (if not popularity) is increasingly rising above Harry as the heir. I am sure Harry is having a hard time with that adjustment, too, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was throwing a bit of a pouty tantrum. Eventually, his brother will be his outright boss. I wouldn’t wish that for my siblings and me.

    • Natalie S says:

      If Charles has the longevity of his parents, I wouldn’t be suprised if the Sussex hope is to slowly phase out of being senior royals 20-30 years from now and leave that work to the Cambridge kids thus avoiding having King William as their boss.

      • JustBitchy says:

        Natalie- IMO Charles does not appear to be the picture of health. With those swollen fingers I fear HBP or some sort of auto immune illness. I hope I am wrong and HRH Prince Charles lives a long life. However William could be King much sooner than most expect.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      I can’t see Harry being “pouty” about Will’s position, because it was always made clear who the top dog would be. Even as children, they were made aware of their stations in life (not in the nicest way either, judging by some of the stories out there). Harry’s said that he’s happy to be the spare and no one wants to be king. He’s been thrown under the bus for Will’s benefit for years, so he’s used to the dynamic.

      The one major thing that’s changed is that he’s now a married man with a growing family. After years of playing the third wheel and jester, he has his own priorities now. I’m sure that’s sparked serious growing pains for the people who are used to having him play a certain role for them.

  22. Bee says:

    I am listing these in case anyone else was wondering about Meghan’s Victoria Beckham outfit as they weren’t included in the post. I know some people liked the boots – they can be ordered right on the VB site. Apologies that these are all in US dollars.
    VB Coat: $3,085
    VB Boots: $1,715
    VB Bag: $2,260

    • Natalie S says:

      Fair enough.

      Are you taking requests? How much did the Queen’s outfit cost?

    • Snowflake says:

      I wish I could afford those, i love Meghan’s style.

    • Anon says:

      Natalie S, when have you ever compared the Queen’s outfits (money wise) to Kate’s? You’re always going on about Kate’s wasteful spending, starting from 2012, but I’ve never seen anyone say “the Queen wears expensive clothes, why shouldn’t Kate wear expensive clothes too?”

  23. Raven says:

    I swear people live to make drama where there is none. Nothing in these pictures suggest that there is any feuding and going on except in the made up Tabloid world.

    People to love to put Kate against Morgan, Henry against William and vice versa. People love to create drama about them as a reason to hate on the other that’s why they believe all the Tabloid stories, except when it’s convenient not to.

    • Gia90 says:

      The stories of a rift were all invented, IMO the UK press has egg on their faces. The media has obviously been lying.
      The Daily Mail is a racist rag who invents drama where there is none

  24. Piper says:

    The Boxing Day drama is so bonkers bc it’s definitely fanfiction.

    Asking for a friend, when upperclass women marry into the RF are they expected to continue to use their previous clothes bc obv they’ve already attended these galas and don’t need a new wardrobe? Or is it just the commoners who need to shop then scrutinized for being in the RF for less than a year and shopping to support all that goodwill work they’re doing? Lol

    I find the shopping cost posts ridiculous, I know it’s your tax dollars at work but are you line iteming every expense going into the event hosting/catering/travel/donations or just one persons warddrobe? It’s nonsense.

    Also, the comparisons to feminism/humanitarian work being undermined by wearing an expensive outfit also ignorance at its highest order. Only The Gap is appropriate to do goodwill work? Feminism means you can’t get married or shop high-end. The misuse of these words have stumped some women and it’s just frightening.

    • mynameispearl says:

      Well I suppose its commented on because its tax payer funded, even though they are extremely independently wealthy. Of all the things our taxes pay for (schools, welfare state, NHS, roads) its the one that is the most frivolous and removed from the tax payer.

    • maddie says:

      can you really blame people for wanting to know where their tax money is going?

      let’s not forget the time the queen wanted to use the state poverty fund to pay for buck palace’s electric bill.

    • Elisa says:

      “Also, the comparisons to feminism/humanitarian work being undermined by wearing an expensive outfit also ignorance at its highest order.”
      Supposedly Meghan has spent around 1 mio pounds on clothes in 2018, and I’m sure Kate and other members of the RF have spent substantial figures as well. This kind of expenses are obscene (to say the least) and IMO undermines any humanitarian approach, especially as tax money is used to fund these expenses.

    • Anon says:

      No one will touch your comment because this is a Meghan post. Put this on a Kate post and you will see the comments will be very, very different… What I mean is, you’re talking about Meghan’s outrageous spending, so everyone gives her a pass. But talk about Kate’s outrageous spending and the tone of the comments are different. They’re all spending our money so frivolously so they all deserve the criticism.

  25. Betsy says:

    Kate’s non-matching reds are making me twitchy. She has gotten very, very slim hipped over the years, too.

    They all look nice and appropriate, and I agree with the general mood – the brothers are fighting, though I imagine Harry is also annoyed that so many of the negative stories about his wife seem to have originated from his brother’s camp. I’d be annoyed, too.

  26. Enn says:

    They look perfectly comfortable together. I maintain that this is a tempest in a teapot exacerbated by gossip rags.

    • Raven says:

      I said something similar above this is all tabloid BS. People eat it up because they love to make people either a villain or a saint, so they’re either going to be villainize you about everything or make you a perfect victim.

  27. Lexa says:

    The duchesses were working overtime to give the impression everything was okay and their husbands truly couldn’t be bothered. I did think it was a little funny that Meghan did some special outreach with the two women she supposedly beefed with, Eugenie and Kate, with those brief back and arm touches.

    • Bluthfan says:

      It looked like Meghan was doing the heavy lifting in giving an impression that all is well. Kate responded to Meghan but did extend any effort on her part.

      William looked pissed and avoided looking in the Sussexes direction and Harry only seemed to smile at the crowd or Meghan. Otherwise he looked quite angry as well.

      • Lexa says:

        I actually thought Kate was doing slightly more outreach on the walk in. She seemed to be the one doing a lot of the talking and stepped a little away from William’s side to engage with/walk closer to the Sussexes while Meghan stayed very close to Harry. Kate also seemed to talk to Harry a few times, or he was at least listening to what she was saying to Meghan. The boys looked like they wanted to be on different planets from each other.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        @Lexa, I kind of agree. It was a bit surprising but Kate did initiate *some* of the friendly interactions. What was interesting was Will’s distance from everyone. He seemed to have a particularly large cloud over his head.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate and Meghan got along fine back in July at Wimbledon, after all this drama is supposed to have happened. So they were probably over it by then and probably a bit embarrassed that the tabloids are bringing it out now. Even CBC had a story about this on Christmas Day which is just how ridiculous these tabloids have spread this dumb stuff. Actually stories about the royals and their spending habits would have more value.

  28. Digital Unicorn says:

    For me fashion wise Meghan won the christmas day parade, loved her whole look. Katie Keen was fine but that thing on her head ruined what was a good look for her. Why did she had to add the horrible bow.

    As I’ve said on here before whether the stories are true the fact that the Cambridge’s capitised on the negative press to bolster their own image tells u everything you need to know about them.

    Did u all see Evil Papa Smurf playing creepy Santa at the Mexico border. Shudder, he really is desperate to be viewed as royal adjutant.

    • Polly says:

      I loved that thing on her head, the whole outfit was very 40’s retro looking. Meghan looked nice in her usual top to toe navy/black but I didn’t like the feathers in her hat.

  29. Sharon Lea says:

    Kate didn’t really hang out with Cressie or Chelsey, didn’t see them lunching or shopping together so if Kate is making a point to make things look ok, that is more than she has done in the past. Kate has always just been about William socially. There was a story several years ago that Chelsey, or was it Kate, asked one to go shopping on Kings Road, but the other declined? It sort of made it known to the other they weren’t that cool with each other.

  30. Elizabeth Suzanne Phillips says:

    Kate and Meghan look like they’re pulling their looks from two different decades to me – Kate is from the 40s and Meghan is from the 20s.

  31. Amy Too says:

    Meghan looks so much more like her mother, Doria, now that her face is filling out a bit due to the pregnancy.

    • Amie says:

      I don’t think she resembles either parent – she really looks like she could be adopted.

      • PrincessK says:

        She has features of both parents, Doria’s eyes and mouth and smile. Meghan and Scammy also have a resemblance, as much as I detest Scammy, she is a pretty woman. I hope that the baby gets the best genes from all sides.

    • Hunter says:

      I thought the same, def more like Doria. Additionally, and it pains me to say it, but when her crazy sister is talking, I catch a tiny glimpse of shared likeness (appearance-wise only) with Megan.

    • Gia90 says:

      I always felt that Meghan looks like Doria. On the wedding day I could see they are similar facially.
      Doria is beautiful.

  32. antipodean says:

    The coat I love the most, and would give my eye teeth for, is Sophie Wessex’! She seems to have settled into her royal role so well over the years, after quite a shaky start, which is fortunately now lost in the mists of time! Anyone who can stay married to that hideous muppet gets my thumbs up, and she seems to do it with such grace.

  33. M.A.F. says:

    If these two had up their game, they should have held back and let the two brothers walk side by side. The ladies seemed pleasant with each other the whole walk, make the two brothers take the heat.

  34. Canadiangirl says:

    My husband cares nothing about the royals, but we share a serarch history so a story with these photos popped up and he commented that it’s all William and Harry. That they are obviously the ones feuding and the wives are trying to keep the peace. He commented William is totally sulking lol

  35. Beach Dreams says:

    William looked the most standoffish and unpleasant yesterday imo. The way he ignored the Sussexes was interesting, considering that he seemed cordial (or at least acknowledged them) up to the point of Eugenie’s wedding. I’m still of the opinion that Camp Cambridge is behind *some* of the smear campaign, and that the success of the tour brusied some egos because of the timing of said campaign. The Australian press even compared the Cambridges unfavorably to the Sussexes during the tour.

    • Lexa says:

      I agree. William didn’t even seem to want to try. I couldn’t tell if it was because the kids got them up early (5 am) and he was grumpy, if he was mad about having to be there because they had other plans that got overruled, or a combination of a couple of things. Charles’ placement was also a little weird to me—did we see him talking to any of them?

    • PrincessK says:

      Oh definitely, it was no coincidence that the smear campaign started after the tour was universally acclaimed as a success. I am sure that Team Cambridge hoped that the Sussexes would fall flat on their faces and they did the exact opposite.

      • Nic919 says:

        Exactly. The success of that tour bothered someone enough to start the tabloids stories of things from months ago. It didn’t work out the way they wanted though.

  36. MrsBeast says:

    Well, in that one pic they have matching brown stripes on their cheeks… what is with the non-blended contour?

    Harry has a very strange energy in the video of this. He comes off as angry, which I can understand why. The women seemed fine. The men did not. I think this is indeed between Harry and William and Charles. I wouldn’t be surprised if Harry is also angry at Charles. Megan did a weird red carpet walk in the video and Kate looked like she painted a giant smile on her face. Not a comfortable outing to be sure, knowing all the hungry eyes of vicious gossips are staring.

  37. JAGirl says:

    My opinion? Harry knows the smear campaign against his new wife (who is pregnant and still adjusting to a foreign country) came from his father and brother’s “camps” and it is the source of the rift/problem.

    Some of the reports were too detailed and to all be totally fake and made up by the press, and also the volume of stories. It seemed like every royal reporter had gotten some “scoop” in an effort to smear Meghan.

  38. Wood Dragon says:

    Kate is so freaking lean, even in a winter coat. Wow.

  39. Rach says:

    Kate’s coat is more of the same but she looks gorgeous & plays the part of a mother, dutiful wife & royal queen consort (to be) well!

    • Elisa says:

      I agree, out of the 4 she did the best job during the church (pap) walk.
      William looked like he doesn’t care, Harry seemed grumpy and Meghan looked quite uncomfortable.

  40. PurpleHoulihan says:

    I still think all of the smearing and feuding came from courtiers or the Cambridges’ staff acting on their own — not Kate, William, Harry, and Meghan themselves. They’re creating two separate offices, and I’m sure the competition is stiff for who will get positions where. The whole drama makes much more sense to me if it’s
    1) Courtiers sniping because they don’t like Meghan’s approach to things and have implicit bias against a black American divorcee, and
    2) PR staff manufacturing crises so they can show how good they are at handling them and win points with whichever couple they want to continue employing them.

    • arsesds73 says:

      Well if these past few weeks have showed anything is that their PR is anything but competent. If they really want to work for the Cambs that badly they sure have a weird way of showing it.

  41. SDuff says:

    Emily Andrews and Omid Scobie are very partial to the BRF, but they said yes there is a fallout between the brothers, and that Meg and Kate essentially coexist but are not friends. Most importantly they said people forget, but William is totally superior to Harry in the organization. William gets first right of refusal on housing, work and engagements. There is no ‘competition’ because William wins as long as the BRF exists. Their point was that you need to look elsewhere for the cause of the rift.

    • Anya says:

      Absolutely correct. William and Kate are the ONLY ones who matter being the future King and Queen. Everyone else plays a supporting role to them.

      • arsesds73 says:

        Everyone already knows William and Kate are going to be king/queen, no one is trying to steal their “future” crowns. The work Harry and Meghan are doing is in support of the monarchy (currently the queen), I don’t know why they are trying to remind us of the fact that Will and Kate are going to be king and queen – we already know this. I haven’t seen anyone wish for Harry and Meghan to be the future monarchs, people who are “fans” just enjoy watching and following them. The competition was created entirely by the tabloids, and honestly most people did not take it seriously until the smear campaign began. I seriously do not understand what the issue is, no matter how popular one or the other is with the public it won’t change the fact that Will and Kate’s future positions are cemented, this is not a game of thrones. Harry himself has said that his popularity has a shelf life, he’s well aware that once the Camb kids start to grow up, the attention will shift there so while he still has some media attention he wants to use that platform to highlight his causes. This is just frankly stupid.

    • Gia90 says:

      Not true what you said about Scobie, he doesn’t deal with those feud stories. Scobie has never ever promotes the feud, he deals in other areas about Meghan and stays away from the nasty mean spirited stories, it’s only Emily side between them who promotes the feud as real, not Scobie. Read his thread, he doesn’t ever say it’s real and Emily is the one in the podcast who swirls the story of feud, not Scobie.

  42. Anare says:

    Think about it. Who has the most need to control the narrative? Who is the one we seldom read positive stories about? Who would benefit by trashing Harry’s wife to upset Harry? Maybe get Harry so pissed off that he retreats. Hmmmmm… 🧐

  43. blunt talker says:

    When I looked at the pictures of them walking I sensed the rift is between William and Harry. Their wives are trying to keep the peace. The wives don’t have time to keep up a feud. Kate has three small children and monarch obligations. Meghan is learning a new country with her own monarch obligations plus expecting a child in the spring plus moving to Frogmore Cottage. I agree with a lot that has been printed about the dynamics of change between the brothers. I read an article not from a tabloid that stated the royal family knew when the boys were in their preteens and things would have be split up. They supposedly were literally fighting over some type of tape for wrapping something. They had to be pulled apart. Harry has become an adult and is coming into his own wants to make decisions for his family and himself for later down the road. The queen and Charles will not live forever dynamics change for the future. I am glad they are moving out on their own so to speak to set up their household that best suits them.

  44. Skwinkee says:

    I was over on Lainey and she’s so harsh on the “belly cupping”. It seems rude. Yes, possibly a pr move or just a pregnant lady in love with her baby. Rub your belly’s ladies. You don’t know if this is your last baby. I had mine at 37 and struggling for the 2nd currently. If I had known I would have just walked around hugging the sh*t out of my belly.

    Hug them tight because right now they are safe, once they are out of you- ugh, best/worst.

  45. Tessy says:

    I haven’t seen Harry and Megan out together in ages, no handholding any more?

  46. Isabel says:

    People have already put it more eloquently than I ever could, but I completely agree that the rift is between Harry and William.

    I think William is arrogant and obsessed with controlling other people and his surroundings which is both “to be expected” being raised the future king and all, but it’s also an amazing testament to how you could literally be the future KING OF ENGLAND and STILL feel insecure or threatened about your status in various ways. But anyway, I think William has many problems with Meghan. She isn’t docile, deferential and easily controlled like Kate and most of the English women (men and women, to think about it) that William interacts with. And Meghan likely doesn’t cower under the influence of anyone, including “I will someday become King William.”

    I was watching the four of them interview at the Royal Foundation. At one point the interviewer asked an open question along the lines do they ever get into disagreements as a family. This was 3 months before the wedding I believe. William laughed first and said, “Oh yes.” Immediately after the question was asked, Meghan made a point of touching Harry’s arm as Harry said to the interviewer, “Healthy disagreements.” Later the interviewer said, “The last thing you disagreed on, how do you resolve it?” and then William gestured and spoke, “Is it resolved? We don’t know.”

    I think William was taking a dig at Meghan. The body language and subtext was delicious. And then Harry went on to say they were all “stuck with each other for the rest of their lives.”

    But another thing, all throughout the interview whenever William was speaking, Meghan looked over to him (as expected) but would always keep her gaze on him until he lowered his head. That’s a classic dominant move. And whenever Meghan was looking to her right as Kate was speaking, for instance, William’s gaze was always down. It’s always a sight to see when powerful men unused to being challenged interact with powerful self-assured women. Meghan is no Kate and William knows it.

    • Isabel says:

      P.S. During the Royal Foundation interview, comparing Meghan’s body language to Kate was interesting. Much like Diana’s classic “looking down and up” submissive move, whenever Kate was listening to William she would tilt her head. And whenever she answered any question, she would refer to William’s reactions as if looking for approval, gesture toward him, etc. Kate also didn’t look at William directly for long periods when he spoke but averted her eyes periodically downwards because in body language, staring someone down unwavering is a sign of dominance or a challenge.

      To sum up: I seriously doubt there is any issue between Meghan and Kate. The pissing match is between Harry and William over Meghan’s influence.

    • Linda says:

      @Isabel.
      Fan fiction at its best lol.

    • Jane'sWastedTalent says:

      @ Isabel-

      Interesting and well-reasoned insight, thank you for sharing it.