Ethan Hawke descends from ‘Quakers who came over… after the Mayflower’

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I know this post will probably get three comments, but I love writing about Ethan Hawke. He’s one of my crushes, and I swear to God, he gets better and more interesting with age. I didn’t even like him that much in the ‘90s! But now I love him. Ethan is still getting a lot of attention and hype for his lead role in First Reformed. I saw it, and it is… not for everyone. I liked how quiet the film was, and his performance is very quiet and interior too. Like, I think if you enjoy thoughtful, contemplative films about religion and the environment, you should see First Reformed. If not, just skip it.

Anyway, Hawke spoke to Vulture recently about First Reformed, because he’s still Oscar campaigning (plus he’s promoting his role on Broadway in a revival of True West, just FYI). As many of you know, Hawke has probably never given a one-word or even a one-sentence answer to a question. He speaks in huge paragraphs in every interview. It’s his thing, and it’s sort of charming. You can read the full piece here. Some highlights:

The connection he felt to his character, Rev. Toller: “First off, I come from a long line of very serious Christians. My family were Quakers who came over on a couple boats after the Mayflower. My grandparents and my mother and my father are all extremely religious people. There’s a slight scowling glance that might sneak out in regards to when a young person says they want to pursue the arts, you know? ‘Cause he might be choosing to live a frivolous life, that might be their first assumption. I see a real connection between that life and the artistic life. The artistic life tends to function at its highest when its really deeply connected to an awareness of your own inner life, whatever that word means. You study great painters, or great poets — W.H. Auden or Egon Schiele, Nina Simone — artists at a great level tend to connect their work to something spiritual.

Whether his own faith was questioned by ‘First Reformed’: “No. I think what a great writer does when they’re on their game is give voice to something a lot of people are feeling. There’s a tremendous amount of anxiety in the air, a lack of political and spiritual leadership. Fear collects in your chest. Even working on True West right now — Sam [Shepard] really writes a lot about the masculine war with itself on a personal level. When it’s amplified, it’s exactly what we’ve done to the whole world. Beating up women, beating up the female part of ourselves, beating up the planet, beating up Mother Earth. All that stuff is very much on Shepard’s mind as he writes about these self-loathing men. A lot of men’s only manifestations of masculinity is their wallet or how many people are afraid of them, you know? And that’s not leadership.

He used to journal: “I did, meticulously, every day, from when I was about 16 until I was about 44. And then — it’s kind of a funny story, but it’s true — someone stole my journal… Like at an airport, yeah. About five years ago. I left my bag for a minute, and somebody went in my bag and stole my journal. It freaked me out. We live in such a weird time where it’s like, Oh my God. I’m going to have to read my journal on the internet. This is going to be hugely embarrassing. Remember when that would happen in high school? Somebody’d keep a journal and somebody’d read it out loud in the lunchroom or something, just humiliate another person. Well, I was just incredibly petrified of who this person was that stole my journal. And I just stopped keeping a journal. I tried to start again, but I have not been able to do it. One funny thing that is different today is that we write so many emails that all of my emails to my friends turn into de facto journals. But I miss my journals.

Whether he ever rereads his old journals: “I haven’t in a long time. When you’re going through really hard times — when I was in my early 20s, and when I went through a divorce — a journal is incredibly helpful to make sense out of your thoughts. Sometimes your thoughts need to be controlling you, and keeping a journal helps you understand how much you’re repeating yourself, how much you’re … I don’t know. I’ve always found it extremely helpful.

[From Vulture]

That’s interesting about his post-Mayflower-Quaker descendants. Honestly, if you know anything about the Quakers in America, it sort of makes sense that Hawke is the way he is… sort of. It’s also interesting that he journaled for such a huge chunk of his life – I experimented with journaling (or “keeping a diary”) when I was a teenager and I would hate to look back at that time. Plus, I just got bored with myself, although I can see how it can be a very reflective way to organize your thoughts if you’re going through a hard time. Who has Ethan’s stolen journal? Will it end up on the internet at some point??

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  1. Becks1 says:

    I agree that I find him much more interesting now than he was 20 years ago. I don’t know if he’s picking more interesting roles, so that shapes how I view him, or what.

    This movie looks interesting, I’ll have to find time to check it out.

  2. Lozface says:

    I find this fascinating so I’ll add to the 3 comments.

    I actually attended a Quaker school. The only Quaker school in Australia – in fact the Southern Hemisphere. I’m not a Quaker myself, however the Quaker values are pretty special and the inclusion at my school was amazing. I’m still a proud old scholar and try and live by the Friends’ ethos to this day.

    Also, just read Michelle Obama’s book where she talked about her girls attending Sidwell Friends school and how it fit with them personally. Makes me feel cool!

    Just my 2 cents!

    • Agapanthus says:

      Me too. However, Quakers in the States are very different to British/ European Quakers. I would guess Australian Quakers too. It’s almost a different religion, they are much more evangelical, whereas in the UK it is very liberal, and almost like a western form of buddhism.

      • Enn says:

        Quaker meetings and schools still thrive in the Philadelphia area and are not evangelical, IME.

      • jessamine says:

        While there are “crossover evangelical” strains of Quakerism kicking about and a programmed/unprogrammed meeting distinction which is beyond the scope of this thread, none of my New England Quaker peeps are remotely evangelical. My mother (affectionately) refers to our Meeting as “the first parish of NPR” …

      • Brookecb says:

        I went to a Quaker school in Philadelphia from kindergarten to 12th grade. One of the best experiences of my life. Although I’m not Quaker I still go to Meeting and subscribe to many of the beliefs. Quakers are taught to value acceptance and diversity, to think critically and question everything.

      • Ms. says:

        It varies. There are more Evangelical Friends in the US and Africa then Britain/Aus, but the traditional hicksite friends still exist in the US. There are a few other sects of Quakers, too. (I grew up as a Quaker, went to a quaker college, traveled for international Friends conference with Quakers all over the world, and minored in Quaker studies. Now I’m an atheist, haha. But those values had a huge influencing factor on my life and I still hold them close.)

      • Lozface says:

        Wow! I didn’t realise that. It’ was definitely not evangelical at my school. Very liberal. I remember when Nelson Mandela became president of South Africa, the school made a book that every student signed and we learnt the SA national anthem.

        We supported Amnesty International, Greenpeace etc and equality discussions were very important. I left in 1999 – grade 12 so it’s been a while, but a lot of those learnings and caring for others has stuck with me.

    • Lucretia says:

      Re: Southern Hemisphere — There are over 1000 Quaker schools in East Africa, though they little resemble a school like Hobart FS and are part of the evangelical branch of Quakers.

  3. Erinn says:

    He’s 20 years older than I am, but the older her gets the more attractive I find him.

    He also loves hanging in Nova Scotia especially in the summer, so he’s free to come hang hahaah. Annnddd I just listened to an interview where he’s been visiting since he was 25. So before I was born. Still hot.

    • Steff says:

      Girl! I’m Canadian too and have family on the east coast. I know he filmed Maudie here (which is excellent btw and a lady from my parent’s home town wrote it) but this is my first time finding out he regularly visits. I can just imagine bumping into him and having a Before Sunrise scenario there. Mmmmm….

      • Bella Bella says:

        He used to have a house in Woodstock when he lived with Uma Thurman and we’d see them around town quite often.

  4. smcollins says:

    Ethan is indeed like a fine wine, just keeps getting better with age. He’s been one of my biggest celebrity crushes since Dead Poets Society! I’m not sure if First Reformed is for me (I have to really be in the mood for movies like that) but I’ll watch it for him. He’s definitely one of the most talented actors of my generation.

    • Bettyrose says:

      The entire cast of Dead Poet’s Society is still the cast of DPS to me. Ethan Hawke, Josh Charles, any of them in anything else are the grown up kids from Welton. Ethan was too young to be my crush, but he’s like a kid I watched grow up.

  5. reg says:

    somebody give this man his journal back…

  6. Brunswickstoval says:

    I watched Juliet Naked on a plane today out of desperation and I really enjoyed it. He made the movie so much more enjoyable. I have loved everything I’ve seen him in for the past few years.

  7. Ripley says:

    I love him. That’s all.

  8. Sparkly says:

    I feel so bad for him that his journal got stolen and now he lives with stress and anxiety and no journalling outlet for it. That’s a really horrible thing to do to someone.

    I try to journal sometimes. It basically just becomes a dumping ground for all of my anger at my husband, and then I rip out the pages and rip them to pieces so he can never see what I wrote.

    • LT says:

      I have kept a journal off and on for years and it’s extremely helpful – I am an extrovert and my constant chatter about what is going on inside my head can be exhausting for those around me, so a journal lets me process without becoming completely tedious to my loved ones.

    • Sunnee says:

      Same here. Every new year I start a journal. It starts great and reflective and by March it’s just me kvetching about my husband and whatever disagreements we’re having. However, I don’t tear it up. I hide them and years later I’ve read them and thought how stupid I was to make such a big deal over our arguments.

  9. Lightpurple says:

    I will see First Reformed at some point because I have heard very good things about his performance and I find his work interesting. He takes on cool projects. I just wish he hadn’t turned down Dr. Strange.

    • smcollins says:

      He was offered Dr. Strange?! How did I miss that? He would have been so good in that role (not that BC isn’t) but maybe it was too much, and too long, of a commitment that he wasn’t willing to make? Too bad.

    • Eve says:

      WHAT?!!???!?

      So…since Joaquin Phoenix trolled the hell out of Marvel — he was always the first choice for playing the character — and eventually said no (motherf*cker) I could have had Ethan Hawke playing it?

      Angry, I am.

  10. Lucy2 says:

    I have similar ancestry, but I don’t think it’s really it affected how that part of my family is today. The Quakers did keep excellent records there, it made researching that pretty easy. There’s still some Quaker schools and meetings around here (New Jersey).

  11. Lala11_7 says:

    I’ve loved Ethan for decades!!!! “First Reformed” was directed by Paul Schrader…Paul is one of the directors AND screenwriters….that infected me with the love of cinema when I was a child…so I will be ADDING it to my video collection…along with “Cat People” and “Light Sleeper” …”Taxi Driver”…”Raging Bull”…etc…etc…

    “First Reformed”…puts me in the mindset of “Light Sleeper”….which is also a quiet, compelling film with spikes of JARRING violence…the two main characters….remind me of each other….Willem Dafoe was ROBBED for not getting a nomination for that role…I hope Ethan isn’t….My favorite thing about “Light Sleeper”…is that even with the nihilistic landscape that surrounds everyone….At the very end…there IS HOPE….That is SUCH a beautiful…and precious gift….I hope “First Reformed” mimics that….

  12. RemyRed says:

    Paul Schrader wrote and directed First Reformed with Taxi Driver in mind, his first screenplay.
    Ethan Hawke’s intense performance is equal to De Niro’s Travis Bickle.

    • Lala11_7 says:

      I’ve seen a little bit of Travis…in most of his male characters since…

      Especially their dedication to save someone…..

  13. MJ says:

    His is a great performance, in the quiet understated way an histrionic-loving academy never recognizes.

  14. Kate says:

    Fun fact – thanks to the Quakers, PA has self uniting marriage licenses. Thanks to the ACLU, you don’t need to be a Quaker to get one. If you get one, you don’t need an officiant – just 2 witnesses. My husband and I declared ourselves married.

  15. Babadook says:

    Ethan Hawke is such a daddy. I don’t know why I’m into it, but I’m all the way into it.

  16. Starizan says:

    I’ve been madly in love with Ethan ever since I discovered the Before Trilogy. I know you have all probably seen them, but if not, this is my gift to you; Watch Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, and Before Midnight for the most romantic weekend ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI3UuneLcyU

    • Winnie Cooper's Mom says:

      @ Starizan – YES! The Before trilogy is incredible. I’m particularly partial to the second one: the scene in the cafe, and the last scene,omg. The way he looks at her when she says “You’re gonna miss that plane.” And he goes “I know.” Wow. Fantastic filmmaking. Loved him ever since.

  17. Tiffany says:

    I was watching some BTS footage for The Magnificent Seven and Ethan was one of the primaries during interviews (because of course). The way this man can tell a story, I am impressed. Everything from how he just talked director Antoine Fuqua’s ear off because he really wanted to work with him again in any capacity to how much he loved and how important the cast of this version was because ‘if they all looked like me it would have been a joke’. He is a storyteller for sure.

  18. ZigZags says:

    We probably come from the same people. It’s been interesting to follow mine from their arrival as Quakers and make their way down south and transform into Baptist’s. Some others went west and ended up in the Indians area and transformed into Assembly of God.

  19. DinoMo says:

    Damn. I feel like I’ve disliked him for a long time but don’t know why. Didn’t he cheat on Uma? Oh well,I guess, if she’s over it I don’t need to hold it against him.

    He speaks beautifully. His words about masculinity and destroying the female part of ourselves is so brilliant and true.

    I also journal. I recently went through them. I only journaled for about 4 years, then stopped because I moved in with roommates and know that they will read my journal.

    I intentionally do not go back and re-read mine because they are triggering, and because I want to add notes or correct things, and that will destroy the record. I want them to be true records of my life for whomever reads them. I hope that some day, if I have kids or whatever, that they may explain some stuff that I may not be able to.

  20. Amelie says:

    I actually recently saw Ethan in the flesh at a hotel bar here in NYC! I didn’t even know it was him at first because I wasn’t paying attention, people had to point it out to me but he’s very recognizable. He was being all artsy and for some reason was trying to do work at a table near the bar. He had a huge binder with him full of notes it seemed, probably for a movie project I can’t imagine why else he would be there (maybe he had a work meeting or something). He stayed there quite awhile and was literally five feet from me at one point. I left him alone but some people did go up to him and talk to him. He seemed like he was pretty focused on whatever he was doing but he was gracious to whoever came up to him. It was my first “big” celebrity sighting in awhile.

  21. stormsmama says:

    One of the things that makes him so great- and Im not talking about his obviously textured and mile long resume filled with smart choices and memorable characters- is that he always had an inferiority complex as a young actor. He compared himself to River Phoenix and I think that complex made him work so hard and try so much all the time and that actually over time really worked in his favor, because ha had a humbled sense of his career. He just wanted to work, work, work. And now all these years later- he has become the quintessential actor’s actor and writer’s actor. And he writes. He geeks out. Whatever annoying qualities he may have, I believe they are borne out of a genuine and sincere person- not of an ahole ego looking for praise and recognition. I think he now is just truly enjoying the work.

    And OH his performance in Training Day!

  22. Eve says:

    I love him in Sinister (horror fan here).

    Also, I will never forget the way he talked about kissing Angelina Jolie.

  23. Bella Bella says:

    Ethan Hawke is a phenomenal actor. I haven’t seen this movie, but his latest performances have been blowing me away. Maudie. Juliet, Naked. Blaze. Born to be Blue. Maggie’s Plan. I think he makes such interesting choices. It’s just always fascinating to see him. He’s able to convey so much interior life with his face.