Drew Barrymore used to be ‘scared of feminism’ because of ‘all the male bashing’

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Drew Barrymore covers the digital January issue of Glamour UK. She seems to be promoting her makeup line, although she does have some upcoming projects later on this year. But mostly, Drew is just promoting Drew, and she has no problem saying whatever inane thing comes to mind. I usually think Drew is pretty harmless, albeit not the brightest bulb. I got exhausted with her when she was married to Will Kopelman and her whole vibe changed to some kind of Stepford Wife/Mom. But as I predicted back then, it was all just a phase and she’s reverted back to her flower-child/hippie stand-by personality. She’s 43 years old and she still doesn’t understand the basics of feminism though. So… not so harmless. You can read the full piece here. Some highlights:

She could never do heroin or have plastic surgery: “I have an extremely addictive personality. I’ve never done heroin… and I don’t want to get plastic surgery because I feel like they’re both very slippery slopes. I feel if I try either, I’m going to be dead really soon.”

Natural beauty: “Not messing with my face or chasing some unnatural beauty is a standard I live by. I have dark circles under my eyes. I was at my dermatologist’s recently who said to me, ‘Can I shoot some Juvederm up there? It will raise the skin and it won’t be so sunken, which is causing the darkness to look worse, because it’s lower than the natural light that is hitting it.’ And I went: ‘No, but I’m gonna go home and start highlighting under my eyes, so thank you for the tip!’”

How it’s unusual for a Hollywood actress to not have plastic surgery: “It shouldn’t be. We’ve gone far too far with the whole thing, especially when people who are so young are doing it. I feel ageing is a privilege. It’s about how to do it gracefully, with humour, self-love and a respect for the process, and that’s always been really important to me. Then I started having girls and I thought, thank god these were my initial instincts. Now I can carry them out in an even more deep and profound way.”

Scared of feminism: “I was a bit scared of feminism when I was younger because of all the male bashing. And there are a lot of women’s movements now that I’m apprehensive about, because I don’t want to be viscerally angry at men. I love men. I like keeping both sides in mind. I avoid anything political, where I sense too much anger. It’s just not the way I find messaging to be truly empowering.”

What she wants her daughters to know: “The empowerment to know that girls and women are worthy without wanting to take down the male race…”

[From Glamour UK]

Something nice… I think it’s cool that Drew is talking about her dark eye circles, because I can relate. It’s become the thing that bugs me the most about ageing – the dark circles. It sucks. Something not nice… Drew is a 43 year old woman and she still feels the need to publicly “Cool Girl” about feminism. “Sure, I believe in feminism but I LOVE MEN and please mean dark feminists, don’t be so mean to men!!” She believes in a version of feminism which is mostly about appealing to men’s feelings.

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  1. Alexandria says:

    I really love the Korean mask she viralled.

    This statement on feminism…not so much. The only part I agree on was that when I was younger I also thought it was about male bashing. But after reading more and learning from Celebitches, I know better know.

    • Alexandria says:

      *now

    • Kitten says:

      I just ordered the zombie mask (Hanacure dupe)–it came yesterday and I plan on trying it tonight. It’s a lot cheaper than the Hanacure and if it works as well, I’ll let you know!

      • Alexandria says:

        Oh please do Kitten, many thanks!

      • raindrop says:

        I really like Hanacure but agree it’s too expensive for regular use. I tried two recommended alternatives – the zombie pack and the Korean silk face mask from Sano Naturals. They’re both a LOT cheaper and have a similar effect. I like the Sano Naturals one the best – it’s the most like Hanacure in my opinion. The zombie pack one works but it’s sort of clotted and runny and smells funky (probably the egg that’s in it). Just my two cents.

      • Kitten says:

        @ raindrop-Yeah I saw the Sano mask referenced in the reviews section on Amazon while reading about zombie mask. I think I’ll end up trying that one next. Thanks for the rec!

    • oandlomom says:

      @kaiser I’m thinking of trying Belotero for under my eyes. I’ve had really good results w Juvederm for around my mouth but belotero claims to be best for dark circles. I think fillers, when used correctly, are amazing.

  2. Nikki says:

    Feminism basically means giving human beings the same opportunities and rewards, regardless of sex. I give the most massive eye roll to ANY celebrity who claims to be against feminism. Perhaps she’d like to be denied certain career opportunities, be paid less than men, and be denied the right to vote. SO EFFING SILLY!

    • Nikki says:

      Is she afraid of anti-racism efforts too, because she’s afraid of hurting white guys’ feelings? Sigh…

      • QueenB says:

        Lets not erase white women from racism, okay? This isnt only about “white guy feelings”. I am seeing this more and more and its gotta stop. White women play a vital part in racism and in fighting against anti racism.
        How often do we see a white woman trying to use her hurt feelings or even tears to stop PoC from calling her out?

        Important read “How white women use strategic tears to silence women of colour”:

        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/08/how-white-women-use-strategic-tears-to-avoid-accountability

      • Shan says:

        @QueenB I think Nikki’s comment about “white guy feelings” was playing specifically on Drew’s apparent need to protect men, and not meant to dismiss the fact white women can be super racist.

      • Lithe says:

        Just hijacking the thread to thank @QueenB for linking to that article in The Guardian. A powerful and insightful read indeed. It’s going to stay with me for a very long time.

        But more on point, Drew has never been the brightest bulb, so it’s good to see she’s made incremental progress in understanding feminism. Hopefully age eventually brings her enough wisdom to fully understand that men don’t need protection from women trying to have an equal voice.

    • Himmiefan says:

      Can someone point me to the wholesale male-bashing that feminists have supposedly done, because I’ve never seen any or seen or read anything about taking down men.

  3. Rando says:

    Drew Barrymore used to be ‘scared of feminism’ because of internalized misogyny.

    • BlueSky says:

      Yeah remember her dumb statement about being “scrappy” when asked if she was ever sexually harassed?? Sure Sis, because scrappy women don’t get assaulted 🙄
      Oh yeah, and the men who gave you drugs and alcohol before you even had your period didn’t take advantage of you too because you were scrappy????

  4. Tiffany says:

    So privileged Drew is talking about…her privilege. Someone needs to to explain that along with feminism to her.

    • CheckThatPrivilege says:

      It would be so refreshing if, with her power and privilege, she weren’t trapped in a bubble. That she still conflates feminism with “male bashing” means she’s gotten well into adulthood not understanding the most basic tenets of feminism. In so doing, she’s perpetuating an old, inaccurate trope.

  5. DEE says:

    I agree with her first sentence. When I was younger, I would refrain from identifying as a feminist because of the negative connotations. Many girlfriends had the same approach, but I feel we didn’t really understand feminism (speaks a lot about our education system growing up). It wasn’t until I went to college and realized how unfair and inaccurate those connotations are. Glad I grew out of seeking male approval.

    She had me there, but the rest of that statement is sad. She’s apprehensive now? Because of male disapproval, basically. I was hoping she would go on to explain how unfair that is and how she eventually understood feminism for what it really is and can now proudly say she IS a feminist. I know it’s just a word, but come on. Let’s break down the stereotype.

    • MC2 says:

      This! Drew has always, always, always sought out male approval above all else.

    • lucy2 says:

      Same here, in high school – over 20 years ago. The last few years alone should have been enough to make people understand, but some just don’t want to.

      I like Drew, but I think she willingly puts her head in the sand about a lot of things, and just wants everything to be happy sunshine all the time.

  6. Steff says:

    She doesn’t even have a big male fan base to cater to like someone say, Jennifer Lawrence, and Jlaw dgaf anymore about upsetting men’s feelings.
    My 2 cents on Drew is that she is uneducated and I think a part of her has never grown up due to being famous at an early age.

  7. Case says:

    Ughhhh. Even a few years ago, I would’ve understood her feminism comment. Maybe even agreed with it. But our culture has shifted since then and those who are interested and open-minded have tons of access points to educate themselves on feminism, and to realize that feminism has ZERO to do with taking anything away from men or hating men. All women, in my opinion, should be feminists.

    When people like Drew say things like this, it perpetuates the idea that feminism is bad and hateful.

  8. Maya says:

    I am so darn tired of women & men who do not understand the true definition and meaning behind the work Feminism.

    It is not to take men down, it is not to make men feel scared, it is not a negative word.

    It is a fight to ensure women get treated equally both in personal and professional lives. It is our fight to ensure we are given the basic human rights. And it is a positive word which we all should be proud to use.

    • Pandy says:

      Agree. Bet Drew thinks it’s angry lesbians in flannel shirts, work boots and no (Flower) make up … scary, butchy wymyn!!!! LOLLL. I was enjoying her beauty/ageing reads until then …

    • me says:

      This. Feminism is fundamentally about equality.

      What does equality or denouncing violence against women in the #metoo movement have to do with male bashing? It’s 2019 I can’t believe she would even say something like that.

      I love men, I love humans too. But I don’t love humans (men OR women) who try to take my rights away or abuse me because I’m a woman. That doesnt make me angry at men or bashing men because I hold abusers and sexist people accountable for their ignorance. When you stay silent, you are siding with the abuser.

      She is an idiot, I’m sorry.

  9. MCV says:

    Most celebrities “feminism” is self serving and it’s not feminism at all, just like this choice-feminism is going around in hollywood/internet is not.

    Drew sounds stupid but I’m not surprised, I get “pick me” vibes from her.

  10. Kym says:

    Why would Drew steal my nana’s curtains to make that dress? Very selfish.

  11. Marty says:

    It’s becoming increasingly obvious which celebrities read, and which ones do not.

    • Kitten says:

      Right. Must be nice to not care about politics. Her rich white woman privilege is certainly the perfect pathway to insularity and ignorance.

      • Marty says:

        At this point it’s just plain laziness, there is so much free content out there. Why wouldn’t you want to at least know the basics? And I feel like feminism does not mean you hate men is 101.

  12. Valiantly Varnished says:

    The more she talks the less I like her. She really isn’t very bright. And her internalized misogyny and inability to understand the basics of what’s going on right now just pisses me off frankly. She’s too old to be this dumb.

  13. ChillyWilly says:

    Drew has really disappointed me lately. She is so successful and really pulled herself up by her boot straps into a better life than her whack job parents gave her. But I am so damn tired of people equating feminism with male bashing. It is especially infuriating when it comes from a woman. Don’t worry about the boys Drew. Their wittle baby egos will be ok even if women have equal pay and a sexual harassment free workplace.

  14. Gurl says:

    So wealthy and so privileged….yet still uneducated.

    If only she could go someplace and take a class or two or twenty…..

  15. Kitten says:

    @ Kaiser-I’ve heard PRP is good for undereye circles. If you’re not afraid of getting blood drawn, it is supposedly very safe and no downtime. I’m getting it done next Saturday as a 40th birthday gift to myself. I don’t have undereye circles or bags but I have lines that really bug me.
    I guess you don’t see real results until a month or so after but limited results are immediately visible.

    PS Drew is an idiot

  16. notthisagain says:

    I don’t know if every woman has to say she is a feminist but everyone should understand the basic concept of feminism i,e advocacy for political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes. My eyes roll at women who are still spouting nonsense that they cant be feminist cuz they like men ? as one has nothing to do with the other

    That said, personally whilst I agree with feminism the word and respect the struggles of the women who came before me, I do not identify with the body politic of feminism today
    I find 3rd wave feminism to be exhausting , self righteous, performative and overly woke. I have just started to describe myself as an advocate for women and girls.

    • Lithe says:

      Wow, I feel like I just stepped out of a time machine.

    • Bettyrose says:

      Notthisagain,
      Though I don’t share your view of 3rd wave feminism, I appreciate that you’ve offered a thoughtful criticism. These are the discussions we should be having.

  17. Ruth says:

    Oh PLEASE. I am SO tired of this. No one understands feminism. Do you believe women and men should have equal rights under the law, and be treated as equals? Congratulations. You’re a feminist. That’s it. That’s our whole ethos. Spare me the male tears about “bashing men.”

    Read a book. Read bell hooks. Read Audre Lorde. Read something. This is not hard. I’m so tired of having this conversation with WOMEN, of all people. They’ve been brainwashed. So many women have done the hard work of carefully, thoughtfully writing about feminism and they’re too lazy to even take the time to do a minimum amount of research.

    (I teach feminist theory at a women’s college — this really irks me.)

    • ItReallyIsYou,NotMe says:

      Thank you. It’s total propaganda that feminists “bash” men. What we really want is equal rights.

    • Lithe says:

      It is disheartening, but my 15 year old daughter and her friends give me hope for the future. They seem to be really tuned into gender biases in society and embrace equal rights and access for everyone. Impressively, they see through the anti-woman propaganda campaign that has otherwise intelligent women refusing to call themselves “feminists” when their very lives and relationships are predicated on feminist values. If I sound ridiculously proud, that’s because I am :)

  18. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    She really does skirt the edges of cornfed pedestrian blockhead. Heroin or plastic surgery. Which should we choose today ladies? As for male-bashing feminism, that’s the brief rundown convos between a group of done-up gal pals out on the town cruising for hot guys. Like, feminism is like totally full of hate. And like why are we supposed to hate cute guys?????

  19. maggi says:

    yikes, is the header photo meant to promote her makeup line?
    What is the deal with makeup experts doing things to distort actual beauty?
    I grow old, I grow old…but seriously, I see a picture like that and it makes me want to wet the corner of my sleeve and start wiping

  20. BeanieBean says:

    I hate the setup that feminism is about hating men or ‘trying to take down the male race’, whatever the hell that means.

  21. Ann says:

    She doesn’t find anger empowering so she gets to ignore it. How nice for her.

  22. a reader says:

    Oh look, another “cool girl”.

    Drew, grow the h3ll up. Pick up a book on feminism SINCE YOU HAVE DAUGHTERS. That last sentence of the interview is so twisted…. she’s prepping her daughters to perform emotional gymnastics in order to not hurt men’s feefees. It’s going to take them a long time to unlearn the terrible messages she’s sending to them.

  23. Anon33 says:

    Next thing you know she’ll be saying she had agency when she was eight years old and being trotted around to clubs with her mother.

    Sad.

  24. me says:

    Girl bye, she is too old to be so ignorant about feminism

  25. detritus says:

    The thing is, anti feminism has always been in vogue. From the time of suffragettes even.

    Check this anti feminist manifesto, that uses the exact same incorrect MRA arguments about feminism they do now, published over a century ago

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Fraud_of_Feminism

  26. HeyThere! says:

    Being pro-female IS NOT anit-male!!!!

    Everyone scream it loud for the people in the back!!!!

  27. beth says:

    who are you people? You spend so much time in a circle jerk about how all women should be not judged and supported as they are and then go on to rip everyone a new one about their ideas and matte foundation aging them and divorce trials as if you know them. You don’t know these people–how about stepping away from the keyboard and living–and the lady who runs this for a living? Are you kidding–could you not do something that contributes to the world?

    I just happened upon this and I had to write as I cannot encompass the vicarious ogling and ensuing vitriol that make up this entire endeavor.

  28. Boxy Lady says:

    I remember the feminist movement in the 90s and there were a number of man haters involved. Courtney Love (Drew is the godmother of Courtney’s daughter) wrote a song called Olympia in which she dissed the feminists graduating from the Women’s Studies program at Evergreen State. Courtney has never been afraid to call herself a feminist and she was supportive of and involved with the riot grrrl movement but she couldn’t stand that particular program. She told Spin that it “was notorious for being one of the worst programs in the country. It’s man hating and it doesn’t produce very intelligent people in that field.”
    You can be a feminist and still acknowledge that some feminists are also man haters. And there was a point in time when those man haters were the most vocal ones and because of that, men refused to listen or try to empathize with the feminist movement. That certainly didn’t do the rest of us feminists any favors.

    • Bettyrose says:

      Boxy Lady,
      A man who openly expresses loathing and contempt for women is sitting in the oval office. A man who similarly displays loathing for women was confirmed on the supreme court. And yet, we treat these two as individuals, not going around accusing all masculinists of being woman haters.

      Meanwhile, accusations of man hating have long been used to discredit feminism, with nearly no substantiation of the claims (and no a rumor started by Courtney Love in the 90s is not evidence of a conspiracy to oppress men.)

      • Boxy Lady says:

        I am not talking about now. I am guessing when she said younger she meant her teens and early 20s. That was the 90s and I am giving historical context here. I remember that time period very well in regard to pop culture. Others here may not. Drew and Courtney spent a lot of time together back then and they influenced each other.

      • Bettyrose says:

        But neither of these women have shown any proof that they’ve encountered man hating feminism. Drew especially is just regurgitating rhetoric. I have no doubt that the gender studies program at Evergreen State (a famously progressive school) had some radical notions floating around in the 90s, but again that doesn’t prove any sort of anti-man agenda ever existed, and I’m certainly not taking Courtney Love’s word for it.

        So when you say we can be feminists while still acknowledging man hating feminism exists, I ask again for proof that it does (or ever did) exist.

      • Boxy Lady says:

        I encountered it personally during that time period so I quoted Courtney to show that others did too.

    • lisanne says:

      So, did these “man-hating feminists” at Evergreen take away some man’s right to vote? Did they take away men’s right to control their own bodies? Did they proclaim that there were some jobs that men were just not suited for? GMOFB. There’s a big difference between theory and actual oppression.