Felicity Huffman was arrested yesterday when armed FBI agents raided her home

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As we discussed yesterday, when it was breaking news, Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin were both indicted as part of a wide-ranging and far-reaching college admissions scheme. In Felicity’s case, she paid $15K to ensure that a SAT tester would change her daughter’s answers to give her daughter a better SAT score. In Loughlin’s case, she paid $500K for a scheme that had her and an NCAA coach falsifying her daughter’s records so her daughter looked like an elite crew rower, when the daughter was not anything of the kind. While various legal experts are chiming in about the poor, rich, white SAT Beckys who had to do crimes because they loved their dumb kids too much and how could we possibly put them in jail for that, the FBI is treating this like any other criminal situation. The FBI – locked and loaded – arrived at Felicity’s home bright and early yesterday morning:

Felicity Huffman knew she was a target of the federal investigation into bribery in the college admissions process … but she had no idea 7 feds would show up at her door Tuesday morning with guns drawn. Sources familiar with the arrest tell TMZ, 7 FBI agents showed up at Felicity’s Hollywood Hills home at 6 AM and drew their weapons as they ordered Felicity to come out and surrender.

We’re told Felicity, her husband William H. Macy and their 2 daughters were asleep when the agents ordered her out. Our sources say she knew the arrest was looming and would have gladly surrendered on her own, but the feds saw it differently.

An FBI source familiar with the arrest tells TMZ guns were drawn as a precaution. It’s always left to the agents’ discretion whether to draw a firearm during an arrest. The agents took Huffman to a federal building where she was processed by federal marshals.

As we reported, Huffman was indicted for conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud. The indictment claims Huffman made a charitable contribution of $15,000 to participate in a college entrance exam cheating scheme on behalf of her eldest daughter. The indictment claims the daughter was given twice the amount of time to take the SAT as other students and the paid proctor agreed to secretly correct her answers afterward.

[From TMZ]

Felicity appeared before a federal judge later on Tuesday to be formally charged in the bribery scheme. She didn’t have to enter a plea, but she had to put up $250K for her bond, and she had to surrender her passport. She’s expected to next appear in a Boston court on March 29 for a preliminary hearing.

As for Lori Loughlin, she was out of the country when the FBI arrived at her door. TMZ says that she plans to return to California today and turn herself into authorities. THe FBI did arrest her husband Mossimo Giannulli and he was charged in federal court yesterday, same as Felicity, although I think he’s facing different kinds of charges, because that family scheme involved more money and more people.

There were some questions about why William H. Macy – Felicity’s husband – wasn’t arrested and charged with any crime. It’s clear in the affidavit that Macy had some knowledge of the SAT-test bribery scheme, but I think (and I’m just guessing) that the FBI thought they couldn’t really prove that Macy was truly involved in bribing the SAT tester or whatever.

Here’s Lori Loughlin’s daughter Olivia Jade – the fake crew rower – talking about how she doesn’t really care about school and she just wants to go to college to party.

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  1. HK9 says:

    Truth is stranger then fiction-couldn’t have made this up if I tried. All this for what??!!?? Le sigh……

    • Belle Epoch says:

      Well done, Lori. You raised an utterly superficial daughter who doesn’t care about school, then paid half a million to get her there. What IS the point?

      • Miss M says:

        To cover up they failed as parents?!

      • Zapp Brannigan says:

        A better investment of the half a million would be to buy the daughter an apartment and pull some strings to get her intern work on a fashion mag or as an assistant to some “media influencer” type. At least then you have invested in property.

      • B n A fan says:

        @Zapp, why would you say the money would be better spent if they … “pulled some strings”, pulling strings is what brought parents shame and humiliation to the family. What they should do is go to school and study hard for what they want, not pull strings, jmo.

      • Zapp Brannigan says:

        @ B n A pulling strings in the sense of using her industry contacts to make introductions rather than buying a college place. I think the reality of media jobs (probably many jobs sadly) is who you know rather than what you know, so studying would make little difference, (I suspect her daughter is not the work/study type) we see this all the time with nepotism models and social media influencers. Sorry should have clearer in my original comment.

      • Esmom says:

        Miss M, That seems like the only plausible explanation. Appearances, bragging rights. I read speculation that the daughter’s IG influencer business needed to move into the “college” space to stay relevant or pull in more sponsors or whatever.

        I just wonder why a less elite university, that she could presumably get into on her own, wasn’t good enough, ffs. Although maybe she couldn’t get in anywhere. College isn’t for everyone and in Hollywood especially it seems less essential to succeed. Especially if your parents are loaded and connected already. Sigh.

      • Himmiefan says:

        She’s going to try to balance it all? Hey, some of us do and did balance it all, our classes that is, and graduated without our parents bribing anyone. That positioned us to succeed on our own without Mommy and Daddy having to help us our whole lives.

      • BchyYogi says:

        Schadenfreud here, no doubt, to visualize the FBI raided their Hollywood Home home at 6am guns drawn!

      • sealit says:

        I was a rower at USC. I have a hard time imagining this vapid girl waking up at 4:30 to get to practice before a full day of classes. Or giving up her spring break all 4 years to train. So disappointing.

      • Milla says:

        Why blame just a woman? Where are dads in this mess?

      • jules says:

        @milla, omg read the real news. it’s not about blaming women, it’s about evidence.

    • Lexilla says:

      I know, HK9! I already see the Lifetime movie. “Starring Lori Loughlin, as herself…” Working title: Pay Grade.

    • It’sJustBlanche says:

      And to get into USC? I mean it’s a good school but if you’re going to teach your kids to lie and cheat, at least try for Ivy League.

      I hope both of them never work again.

      Oh, and Felicity is wearing a hair topper in most of these pictures.

      • anony7 says:

        That’s what i thought too. It’s not like USC is a super elite school (though maybe its film dept. is). And I would think that USC would welcome the child of a famous acting couple.

      • Laura says:

        USC is good but it isn’t like Harvard, Yale, MIT, or Cornell. I got into USC but decided not to go because I got into some better schools. It’s not that hard to get into lmao. Why would she go through all that trouble to send her daughter to a mediocre school?! I got into USC and my SAT scores were very average.

  2. Alexandria says:

    I did not know it was going to be this intense for a bribery case. Going forward I expect this level of intensity for collusion with Russia and/or money laundering. Please FBI CIA! After all that he’s said and mis-spoke and the family he has hired, surely there’s something??!?

    • MattyLove says:

      I was thinking the same thing the whole time I was reading this article!

      • jan90067 says:

        It’s not just the bribery. It’s the FRAUD, tax fraud specifically, and the IRS ALWAYS want’s it’s cut. It’s also being taped as wire fraud, as they have electronic (email) conspiracy between Ricky Singer (the creator of this scheme who is singing like a scorched canary) and the parents. He is the one who set up the fake charity that these parents “contribute” to, and then would be able to write off these bribes as charitable tax deductions (which they did as well).

        So, there ya go. It’s always traced to the $$$$. If they didn’t do that part, there’s a good chance it’d never been found out.

    • Astrid says:

      I read somewhere this morning that there was going to be some scrutiny for Trumps kids and college as they aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer.

      • Esmom says:

        Please, let’s hope. And Don Junior, of all people, was audacious enough to mock Loughlin. He’s the worst.

      • lucy2 says:

        Did he really??? (why am I surprised). His whole life is nepotism and bribes. Glass houses, Donnie Jr….

      • jan90067 says:

        Nope.. we ALL know the Dump kids’ were bought in. They are too stupid to earn those places. Why do you think Dump has been threatening schools to not release HIS scores?

        And Kushner…don’t forget Criminal Daddy “donated” $2.5M to Harvard to get his kid in: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/12/college-admissions-scam-kushner-harvard-acceptance-under-scrutiny/3147027002/

      • Dani says:

        I agree, but I think he just made very large donations as opposed to bribing to change scores and fake them being amazing athletes. Both suck, but what Louglin and Huffman did is much much worse. I know a lot of kids whos parents made hefty donations to get their kids in to their top schools.

      • Olive says:

        @ESMOM i wonder what don jr thinks his own children’s lives will turn out to be once they’re college-aged. hopefully by then the Trump name will be poison and they won’t even be able to take advantage of the same crap their own dad and grandpa did to get into U Penn.

      • S says:

        My husband had just graduated from Drexel and was working in Philly when Ivanka was attending Wharton. He’s in finance so some of his coworkers were in school with her and they said she was dumber than rocks.

      • pottymouth pup says:

        Don Jr had a very well established reputation as a drunk A-hole who wasn’t very bright at Penn

      • Lyla says:

        I know people who went to Wharton with complicit Barbie and the professor made it known that they couldn’t fail her.

    • Steff says:

      What about Kushner’s dad paying 2-3 million to get Jared into Harvard?

      • whybother says:

        guess JK is dumber than those kids. FH paid 15k and Lori paid 500k but his dad had to fork out almost 3m for him? Bet rock is smarter than him and congrats for having him on advisory role~

    • Arpeggi says:

      It’s bribery, but it’s also tax fraud since the money given to the mock charity was tax-deductible. That’s also why the feds take it very seriously

    • Lady D says:

      I don’t think it’s the bribes they are going after them for. It’s the mail fraud and wire fraud the Feds are going to nail them for. Something to do with sending money through the mail for illegal purposes.

    • Keaton says:

      To me this case highlights how important it is with these white collar crimes to get someone on the inside to spill the beans. That’s one reason I was so pissed about Paul Manafort’s sentence. That judge made it harder for prosecutors to get cooperation. Why cooperate if you’re going to get a weak ass sentence anyway?

    • holly hobby says:

      Tiffany is still in law school! Someone look into her LSAT!

      • Esmom says:

        Not sure if she got in one her own merit but I believe she’s at Georgetown, which was one of the schools named in the indictment. Hm.

        At least she’s smart enough to remain under the radar instead of taunting people via tweet like Don Junior or posting videos about how she’s only in school for the parties, like Loughlin’s daughter.

    • Good GRrrrrl says:

      I hope the sentencing here is INTENSE. “They were only helping their children” ORLY? Same with moms in federal prison w violent criminals as roommates – food stamp fraud, prostitution, drug collusion- “only to help their children”. Please let these spa moms serve HARD TIME!!

      • Wait, what,? says:


      • Betsy says:

        How about those women who falsified their addresses to get their kids into better schools? I think they both ended up serving jail time and pays fines. Of course, those mothers were black and it’s obvious even to this white Betsy that some populations get much more punishment than others.

  3. Clare says:

    At the University where I work, every single undergraduate student is interviewed prior to admission – and I mean serious interview, usually designed to test the applicants aptitude and mettle, so they can’t just coast on in based on their schoolwork/grades. It’s still a hugely unfair system because students from public schools (british speak for private school 🙄) have the advantage of not being intimidated by the environment etc, but at least applicants have to prove themselves at some point. It’s not perfect, and a huge pain in the arse for everyone involved, and a huge proportion of students admitted each year are rich white kids – but at least it’s not this bad. I think.

    • Jada says:

      It is not even just schools. The parents being in the place of authority makes the kids comfortable around authority figures. You will sometimes get really confident working and middle class girls and boys and they will still bomb hard. Even if public schools were gone, how can a boy from upper class family whose father is a CEO be on equal footing with a boy from a working class family whose parents work overtime to appease their boss? I don’t know how we can make college applications completely fair or if it is even possible at all.

      • jan90067 says:

        Even putting in applications with only numbers for ID (instead of sex, name, race, etc). would not make up for the lack of parity in prior education.

        As I wrote above, I went through an *amazing* public school system. Certainly not the same experience as an inner city kid would have.

        As a teacher, in LAUSD, I saw again, how different schools were when I was subbing (for LA Unified, and the Santa Monica School District) all over the city for my first 6 mos. Again, “some of us are more equal than others”. I do have to say though, across ALL the economic stratum, I found you will have kids that WANT to learn, kids whose parents RIDE THEM to learn, and kids that just don’t give a &^*% about it.

    • tealily says:

      I would have done TERRIBLY if I had been required to have an intense in-person interview prior to college. I was super shy and awkward at that time. I gained those presentation and interview skills in college and in my work afterwards. I was, however, a serious and top student. There are so many ways society is stacked against introverts already. Can’t we be left to our academic bookishness in peace? It makes me sad.

  4. Gutterflower says:

    Guns drawn seems a tad overkill to me as the crime wasn’t even violent.

    • TheBees says:

      I agree.
      All crime is bad, but the intensity of this arrest is crazy! Why is it a good thing for law enforcement to only have one speed?

    • deezee says:

      I agree too. When reading that, all I could think was how heavy handed they were being. It isn’t a violent crime. I am sure she would have turned herself in along with her lawyer. Clearly they were using her to make a point which I guess is that they will go to extremes whenever they want?

    • SK says:

      Yeah, as an Australian reading that, that just sounds batshit crazy and like massive overkill that, to be honest, we tend to see as typical of the USA. I think your gun culture makes your law enforcement about a million times more trigger happy than ours. In any case, seems overboard!

    • Jess says:

      I came to say the same, it wasn’t necessary to draw guns like that, Jesus Christ.

    • Anners says:

      Honestly the guns drawn bit seemed so over the top Hollywood-style I wondered if they were doing it for a laugh.

      (To be clear – I don’t think it’s funny. But I do know that law enforcement grumble about the way they’re portrayed in Hollywood. Wonder if this was making a point)

    • Himmiefan says:

      They did the same with Roger Stone.

      • Veronica S. says:

        Roger Stone was a traitor to the nation and had a known arsenal at his disposal. Not quite the same situation.

      • Dani says:

        Of course it matters, Veronica. While he’s a nutjob in the sense of his political stance and his demeanor, he’s non violent. Showing up to his house with SWAT at 5 am with 5+ guns drawn is ridiculous and over the top. Even rapists don’t get arrested like that. Non violent is non violent whether or not we like the person.

      • Keaton says:

        @Veronica is right. Roger Stone isn’t just a traitorous POS but he had an arsenal at his disposal. So no, it’s not the same situation at all.

      • Fluffy Princess says:

        Veronica is correct. Just google Roger Stone and guns. Videos of him shooting auto rifles, posing with handguns, etc. How his arrest went down was justified considering his arsenal he bragged about.

      • Veronica S. says:

        Dani – His attempts to silence people involved in the conspiracy involved threats of violence or harm against members or their families/pets. They treated him as a violent threat because he made himself out to be one. Regardless if he had the documented history, he put it out there, the FBI took it seriously.

    • My3cents says:

      I just hope R.Kelly got the same treatment.

    • Arpeggi says:

      It seems over the top, but since you don’t know who has firearms in their house vs who doesn’t, I guess the feds don’t take any chance when making an arrest?

      • This.
        My brother was shot several years ago, while serving a warrant for a NON-VIOLENT crime. He can no longer work in law enforcement, due to injury. They do not know what is on the other side of the door, or a person’s mental state…

    • lucy2 says:

      It does seem a bit much, for a financial/bribery/mail fraud charge.

    • Catlady says:

      When the FBI goes in with guns drawn, it really doesn’t matter what the crime is. It’s how people react, and can be a matter of life and death. The safety of the arresting agents is far more important than appearances.

    • anony7 says:

      Even if she knew an arrest was imminent, this just seems over the top. She and her family must been frightened.

    • Jay says:

      Agents commonly draw guns because they don’t know what will be waiting for them in the home. Perhaps the people have guns of their own, or violent dogs. It’s done widely in all sorts of federal cases.

  5. Carol says:

    Gunpoint might have been a little much, but the feds don’t play. I would like to know who got to surrender instead. I assume the IRS will be involved if they all treated the bribes as tax deductions. What a complete mess!

    • Olive says:

      Lori is hoping to surrender. Her attorney is trying to get her “safe passage through LAX” to advise her before she is arrested, so it sounds like she may just be arrested at the airport when her plane lands if the attorney can’t secure it.

    • noway says:

      In fairness this depends on several things, and my guess is the IRS is the least of their worries. First, as both of these things are relatively recent, they may not have filed taxes or the deduction may not have affected the amount owed specifically with the $15K, and could be the reason Macy wasn’t indicted. Now $500k seems harder to believe, but I’m sure it’s over several years, and they still may not have filed taxes as generally if you have money they file extensions where only the amount you owe is due based on an estimate. When I had and made more money I routinely was about 2 years behind filing taxes as it took that long for my accountant to close out my company’s taxes, and needed those before mine could be filed. We estimated amount owed and were generally within 5% so it’s not that hard. I’ve often wondered why Trump isn’t claiming that, but he’s so crazy about his taxes who knows what he’s doing.

      • Sadezilla says:

        Are you in the US? I’m a tax accountant, and while it’s true that you won’t be charged a late payment penalty if you made sufficient estimated payments, you should still be filing on time (certain elections have to be made on a timely-filed return, and also it’s just bad practice to routinely file late). I would consider getting a new accountant if yours is making you file two years late.

        ETA: Maybe you mean by the time you file with a valid extension it’s almost two years (10/15/year 2) after 12/31 of the year for which you’re filing. In that case, you’d be filing on time. :) I’m guessing your point was just that tax returns are filed well in arrears, but I didn’t read it that way at first.

      • jan90067 says:

        You can file for an EXTENSION, AND/OR AN AMMENDMENT, but you MUST file your taxes (or for your extension) on time.

  6. tempest prognosticator says:

    This is fascinating.

  7. xdanix says:

    Can someone explain to me how she would have known that she was a target of the investigation, please? Were they already taking them in for questioning quietly, or something? Apologies if I’m sounding really stupid, I have NO legal knowledge whatsoever.

    (I still find it strange that WHM wasn’t arrested too. They have him saying “we’re going to do what we did with our first daughter”- he was CLEARLY involved!)

    • Katherine says:

      They were probably already questioning them in a non-suspect in custody way. Preet Bharara, the former AG for the SDNY had a fascinating breakdown on his podcast recently of how much they would let targets in on what was going on based on the nature of the case and if they needed to maintain surprise. I don’t know In this exact case what their thinking was but if it’s all like what he described it’s quite common people would know something was brewing. And not everyone defaults to not speaking to law enforcement. Some people rush to start defending themselves even when being informally questioned. So it’s possible conversations had been ongoing the past few months.

      • xdanix says:

        I see, thank you Katherine! That seems really weird to me, I’d have guessed the opposite, that they’d want to keep their investigation as far away from the targets as possible until it was time to actually go after them! Maybe it depends on the situation though. Felicity doesn’t seem like one of the biggest fish in this, the amount of money she paid was SMALL compared to what some parents were shelling out.

    • Ariel says:

      Per something I read yesterday, Macy wasn’t arrested because he was not included on emails regarding the first daughter/bribe. The second daughter/bribe for which he was involved in emailing- they didn’t actually pull the trigger and pay the bribe.
      So he did not actually commit a crime.
      (I would assume he knew about the first bribe, but no evidence.)

      • tuille says:

        ABC News said they have Macy on tape on a phone call. He clearly knew.

      • lucy2 says:

        That’s what I think too, he knew and was likely involved, but they don’t have the proof on him that they do on Felicity.

      • holly hobby says:

        They don’t have tangible proof. Huffman signed the checks. She had the paper trail.

    • Renee says:

      The reason Macy isn’t charged is because the taped phone call he was on was about the 2nd daughter, the one they decided not to do the scam on. He is on a taped call proving he knew about it, but it was during a phone convo to do same scheme for daughter #2, but they didn’t go through with it for daughter #2. They DID do the scheme for daughter #1 but Macy wasn’t on those wiretapped phone calls.

      • noway says:

        I read what was in the charging docs and Felicity’s case stands out a bit for a few things. One her husband not being indicted and two the lower amount of money given. I don’t think it’s quite as clear clut. I’m wondering if they are using her to get someone else. Plus she knew about this. Maybe they didn’t like her cooperation or maybe this is part of the deal. The guy who orchestrated this was also working with the FBI apparently and that just came out today, and he was also indicted and plead guilty. I’m guessing her defense is going to be they were using the guy to get approved for her daughter to have extra time to take the SAT. It’s a laborous process with the College Board, and $15K may be cheap to get an exception. I’m going to guess her claim is she didn’t know about the changing of the test. My child had terrible test anxiety, and I was trying to get her approved for extra SAT time with her school. We ended up not doing it cause it was really complicated, and honestly I felt bad for the kids who needed it more than my kid as the process is ridiculous, and obviously doesn’t really work either. The other odd thing is the child Felicity did this for isn’t in college apparently and never went. Plus, I have to ask how is the mail fraud? I mean no one submits applications or test info via mail anymore. A crafty lawyer may get them out on that technicality. I know everyone wants to bash people on this, and yes it is bad sad and all of those things, but totally fascinating too.

      • Erinn says:

        And I assume he could argue that he found out AFTER it’d been worked out and she’d been accepted. I mean, really, who knows.

      • Esmom says:

        noway, why do you say extended time “doesn’t really work either?” My son got extra time for the SAT and ACT (he’s on the autism spectrum and had an IEP so his disability was well documented) and he did well enough to get into a good university (he was in their lowest percentile, but still, he did it), far better than he did on the PSAT with no accommodations. He said if he hadn’t had the extended time he wouldn’t have finished either test and in no way would have gotten a score good enough for his university. The system does work. Which is why people try to game it.

    • holly hobby says:

      I think she may have been called in for interviews in connection to that faux business she used.

      • xdanix says:

        Ooh, I hadn’t thought of that at all, but that’s a really interesting possibility! Thank you!

  8. grabbyhands says:

    Having guns drawn was quite a bit of overkill, but otherwise if Felicity Huffman felt fear and uncertainty even for a moment it is no less than she deserved. POC are harassed and killed for basically just existing so I’m not going to feel sorry for a rich white woman being arrested by cops pretending to look tough.

    As usual, the most undeserving amongst us are blessed with the most wealth and privilege. I can’t wait to see the crocodile tears about how they were set up somehow, how they just made “donations” and weren’t paying anyone off etc. I wonder how many people weren’t able to achieve their dream because their places were taken by spoiled brats (at least one of which doesn’t even want to be at school) who aren’t going to use their education anyway.

    • Dee says:

      Ha! Take ‘me down! Take em all down!!

    • Pamela says:

      “I wonder how many people weren’t able to achieve their dream because their places were taken by spoiled brats (at least one of which doesn’t even want to be at school) who aren’t going to use their education anyway.”

      YES! THIS Exactly! When I read this story yesterday, I was disgusted for so many reasons. But i saw the daughter’s video today, where she says she doesn’t care at all about school and that just…flipped my lid. Thee is some kid out there that wants to cure cancer, and they may not have gotten into their school of choice because some rich people bought their “social media influence” kid a spot.

      Also– the girl is a vapid moron, and this is what is INFLUENCING America these days? No wonder we have Trump.

    • noway says:

      If only this was the case. It’s not. Those well deserving students who lost their dream would not get in, because the reality is the colleges can’t have too many students receive aid, it’s not a feasible model. Unless you are uber rich it’s hard to afford $75- $85K a year for these schools. Now most of these schools are private, and they should probably have as one of their criteria ability to pay or request for financial aid. Stop telling us you are need blind, then when Harvard admissions gets sued, we find out need blind Harvard isn’t really need blind. Just tell us the truth 10-20% are reserved for legacy or big donor kids, and then we can decide if we want to apply to your fancy ass school. Now University of Texas Austin, which I believe may be the only public school on the list, I think the state of Texas which pays a lot of your expenses should have a few questions for how you let this happen. Plus I heard but didn’t see UCLA on the list too at one time, maybe California should look into them too.

      • jan90067 says:

        Most of those schools save 20-40% of the freshman class for “legacy admissions”. The UC system isn’t “supposed” to.
        Usually those kids are getting into the UCs by BIG donations, esp. to the athletic programs. My BIL and sister both graduated from Berkeley. Even with my nephews’ great ACT scores (32 and 34 respectively out of 36), only AP classes in high school (almost 5.0 GPAs), tons of extra cirriculars, and the younger being a football jock, it couldn’t get them into UCB. Insane!

  9. Mia4s says:

    Yeah I’m guessing they felt they had insufficient evidence for a conviction against Macy. Well that’s going to make their household even more awkward these next few months. Holy s**t!

    USC has said they will expel students who knew about the scam to get them in (bye bye Aunt Becky’s daughters!) and look at the others on a case by case basis. But…would any of them want to stay? Can rich white privilege overcome even this level of humiliation? This isn’t mom and dad bought a building, this is mom and dad committed a crime. We shall see.

    • hoopjumper says:

      OMG she is literally Aunt Becky. That’s delicious.

      Disappointed in Felicity and WHM. Been a fan since Sports Night, but this is some bullshoot.

    • EnnuiAreTheChampions says:

      “Well that’s going to make their household even more awkward these next few months.”

      @Mia4s, right?? “It was your week to do bribery anyway, William! The chore list clearly said that I would vacuum the living room, and YOU were supposed to do the bribery!”

      (Just kidding — I know they don’t do their own vacuuming.)

    • adastraperaspera says:

      Apparently, Macy was on the calls planning to do this same crime for their second daughter, but then they didn’t use the “service” for her. So he was caught just considering a crime but not doing it. But he knew about the whole thing all along.

    • Veronica S. says:

      You’re assuming people like that have any sense of shame. It’s not getting remorse that will bother them. It’s the fact that they were dumb enough to get caught and that their kids are just that stupid.

    • Lady Keller says:

      Aunt Becky’s daughter didn’t even want to be there, except for, you know, like all the parties and stuff. The sad thing is she won’t even care about being expelled.

  10. BlueSky says:

    I saw this all over Twitter yesterday and it’s true: If you have to do all this to get your child into this school then maybe your child doesn’t belong there.

    I graduated with honors from HS and earned a scholarship to the university I went to.
    It pisses me off that so many kids work so hard in school academically in order to be a viable candidate for certain colleges and universities just to have their spot taken from them because someone has the money to buy their kids into school.

    It makes sense now why so many affluent people look down on others and question whether someone else who actually did the work got there honestly because they are so used to paying their way through everything.

    • Millenial says:

      What I’m really interested in is if these students who bought their way in (or had their parents buy their way in) will be expelled or asked to leave. Especially the ones who went along with the scheme by taking pictures, being recruited for sports they never played, etc…

  11. Tiffany27 says:

    Why the guns tho???

    • Katherine says:

      I think any time law enforcement isn’t sure how something is gonna go. I mean we can debate that all we want in hindsight knowing she went quietly but their first priority is maintaining control against unknown variables. She could have refused to go or barricaded herself or maybe she and WHM have a gun? The agents don’t know what they don’t know until it happens.

      • LadyT says:

        Yes. Commit a felony crime and you’ll be treated as a federal criminal. That’s how it works. Agents don’t say please and hope for the best.

    • boredblond says:

      It’s FBI protocol involving sting operations..I think it shows they weren’t giving them special treatment

  12. Karen2 says:

    …as a sidenote I hated seeing privileged morons in university..put me off making much attempts to work…

  13. Gigi La Moore says:

    Minorities have had guns drawn on them for less. I’m not going to boohoo because it happened to this rich white woman.

    • BlueSky says:


    • Tiffany27 says:

      It’s not ok in that instance either. This doesn’t have to be an either/or. They can both be horrible things to do.

      • BlueSky says:

        The feds don’t play and they don’t know what they are walking into. How many times has there been instances where law enforcement went to serve a warrant only to be ambushed??? If society has shown, anyone is capable of anything.
        Instead of guns, I guess they should have said “please” and “thank you”????

      • Gigi La Moore says:

        Exactly, BLUESKY. FH is no different or special than anyone else. That’s how the Feds roll. And to the OP, no, it doesn’t have to be an either or situation but alas, in real life it mostly is. The browner the suspect, the scarier. FH got a taste of what it is like for those people. However, her white skin and riches will keep her from being thrown under the jail. Sadly, the brown people usually don’t escape that part.

      • Thank you @ BlueSky…I had 4 fami!y members in law enforcement…I say ‘had’ as there are now 3; my youngest brother was shot while serving a warrant – for non-violent crimes. He can no longer work in law enforcement due to his injury. Thankful he is still here. I have no problem with officers going in, guns drawn…they truly don’t know what’s waiting on the other side of the door.

      • eto says:

        How many times has law enforcement shown up with guns to serve a warrant and ended up killing children? I’ll give you a hint, it’s more than you think.

      • Arpeggi says:

        If people want to “protect” the 2nd amendment and their right to have arms without needing a licence or anything that would let the authorities know whether you own firearms or not, then expect cops to show up prepared for anything.

      • @eto…I tried to find the info on your statement…could you please simply give the info? I’d like to know. Thank you.

      • kacy says:

        eto, that does not typically happen with Feds, but with local law enforcement

      • LadyT says:

        How about not doing something that will require law enforcement to show up at your house to serve a warrant? Start there.

    • noway says:

      I’m not boohooing but two wrongs don’t make a right either. Honestly, it would be nice if law enforcement toned down the guns drawn on all, but they can start on the ones in poorer neighborhoods who seem to get the brunt of it first.

    • JanetDR says:

      I agree!
      Also -sorry for being superficial *snort* but what is up with Felicity’s face? It’s not a horrible look, but it doesn’t look like her.

      • Deering says:

        She’s had a lot of work done. Blind
        Gossip ran an item about it two weeks ago or so…

  14. boredblond says:

    According to a CNN report, Macy and Huffman both met with the guy who explained how he was going to ‘fix’ everything, so it may be who signed the checks, or left a trail. I don’t think I’ve seen Huffman in anything for around 10 years, and honestly couldn’t id her from the new (?) pics.

    • Carol says:

      I saw an interview with William in which he said that he didn’t think she should go to college right away. He said that even if she got in, she should consider taking off a year or two first. He talked about how she wants to be an actress and she would have opportunities to play younger characters and so should think about working for a while before going to school. I wouldn’t be hugely surprised if he was against the plan to begin with because he didn’t think college was necessary right now.

      • tmbg says:

        Clearly Lynette Scavo had different ideas! She always wore the pants in the family anyway. 😂

  15. Karen McCabe says:

    It makes me ragey that Felicity also paid to have her daughter labeled as having a learning disability so that she could get extra testing accomodations. It will just make it harder for people that genuinely need them :(

    • mtam says:

      Exactly, and he advised parents to have their kids play “dumb” so that they believe they have learning disabilities.

      So again, tell me how her kid didn’t know. Imagine you’re a 16/17/18 yr old pretending to be dumber than you are*, get extra time on a test and a special location that your peers didn’t get, score crazy high on the test despite the “learning disability” you pretend you have, despite having struggled through the test, and despite your previous school performance that would indicate how you would actually do.

      Then there is Aunt Becky’s kid, who actually seems dumb and vapid, and posed for pictures pretending to be an athlete for Crew.

      There’s just too many lies the kids needed to participate in in order to pull this off. Maybe they weren’t sure exactly how it was pulled off, so they personally didn’t break any laws, but they must have known something was up and still didn’t care they were cheating and receiving special treatment.

      *Having learning disability does not necessarily mean someone is “dumb”–In fact, it’s offensive they advised people to have their kid do that.

    • Esmom says:

      Yeah, that jumped out at me, too. My son got extended time for the SAT and ACT (he’s on the autism spectrum) and it wasn’t easy or guaranteed. The school had to provide extensive documentation that he’d needed accommodations all through high school and a letter/report from a licensed psychologist.

      It’s crushing that people try to use this as a loophole when deserving students are working their asses off to get onto a level playing field with their non-disabled peers. And are often met with skepticism, ie “you don’t look disabled, why do you need extra time?”

      • Karen McCabe says:

        Exactly !
        I will be making these requests with the school board soon for my son (ASD as well)
        I missed the boat on asking for accomodations this year for him to take the PSAT 8/9 because I had no idea I needed to apply months in advance.

    • Veronica S. says:

      Yeah, I have a learning disability and have struggled my whole life with standardized tests and the like – but I passed them. I graduated with honors on both of my degrees, but that was hard won. Hours of reading, of training myself against bad ADHD habits, seeing psychiatrists to make sure my meds wouldn’t interfere. And because I was smart and focused enough to do well in school, I’ve always had my neurological disorders downplayed even though it really is a massive source of stress to me. I actually had a few crash points in college that I only managed to get through because of some very understanding teachers. It’s infuriating to see it treated like a joke by rich kids who just don’t want to work.

      • Esmom says:

        Veronica S, Kudos to you. I know from experience with my son that people have absolutely no idea how hard people with “invisible disabilities” have to work. And how hard you actually do work, almost every minute of every day. It’s humbling. Best to you.

    • noway says:

      You don’t have to go the learning disability route, test anxiety works too. So I wouldn’t assume they went that way exactly.

  16. Pete Booty Jig says:

    What a lame crime to get busted for.😅

  17. OriginalLala says:

    Why would you commit a crime, pay half a million dollars, to get your kid into Uni when she doesn’t even give a crap?

    These people….more money than f**king brains

    • Pete Booty Jig says:

      ‘These people….more money than f**king brains’

      No doubt.

    • mtam says:

      Well, she was aware it would involve tax fraud (by knowingly “donating” the money to the fake charity the ring-leader set up), so she thought she would not be totally losing all that money.

    • Millie says:

      Because it’s not about the kids. These are parents who want to be able to say that their child graduated from an Ivy League school so that they can be perceived by others as successful parents. If that means that they have to bribe and cover up their kids’ inabilities to succeed on their own, that’s what they’ll do. It’s about image.

    • lucy2 says:

      I can’t believe they spent THAT much. I mean, that is more than the cost of 4 years of tuition, room and board, expenses, etc. HOW WAS IT WORTH IT???? I just don’t get it.

      They also could have spent a fraction of that, got the kids tutors and coaches to have them actual be athletes and good students…

      • Giddy says:

        But that would have taken much more effort from both the kids and the parents.

      • jan90067 says:

        My older nephew got into NYU, Tisch (had to audition on video, and then an in-person audition & interview, as well as test scores, essays, transcripts). And while it’s a private uni, at least HE had to be there IN PERSON to do this. Would they take a low to mediocre student whose parent is a successful actor for the name factor, of course they would. The cost (out of state) is about $80-100K/yr (depending on whether or not you choose to live in a dorm or off campus). So yeah, why not just take that $500K and donate it directly TO the school? They get in, and no tax fraud.

      • Lorelei says:

        Wouldn’t USC have let her in if they had just DONATED the $500K? This is so stupid.

      • jan90067 says:

        Lorelei, if they just donated, they probably couldn’t write it off their taxes, as that isn’t a charitable donation.

  18. Jb says:

    I’m sorry but HA! A bunch of y’all saying it’s overkill and I’m over here clapping. Rich white ppl FINALLY being treated like the criminals they are and soooo many white tears being shed. Let’s see if they face any real jail time or just pay huge fines with the plenty of money they have. They had every advantage in the world, lives ppl would die for and still broke the law to get the upper hand for children that didn’t deserve or need it. Trash ppl sometimes come with huge bank accounts…

    • B n A fan says:

      Thank you, what over kill. They cheated, they deprived some poor kid who really worked hard to get placed and missed out. Yes, draw their guns, who know what they will do when the FBI knocks at the 🚪.

    • Biff says:

      Hear Hear!! Its a standing ovation from me. I just hope this isn’t the end of it. I would love to see them take down a couple of “charitable foundations” as well. I suspect there is a lot of rich people washing both their hands and their money in those.

    • mycomment says:

      dotard jr is remembered by former roommates as a drunk who’d pass out and piss his pants. and look where he is — fronting a bogus development empire. I can’t wait when it’s finally revealed just how broke those grifters really are.

  19. Eric says:

    Even in a parallel universe, I couldn’t expect to read a story as bizarre as this one.

    “Crazed White People Try to Buck Easy Entrance into US Universities Through Scandal; Daughters Remain Uninterested.”


  20. mycomment says:

    i’m getting kind of tired of these two women as the faces of this fraud.. there is at least one hedge fund co-founder worth millions more; another one a chairman of a leading law firm:

    A fabricated profile created by Janke listed the boy’s height as 6 feet 1 inches when he was in fact 5 feet 5 inches tall. The profile indicated he played on his high school’s varsity team for four years, when he actually only played his senior year.

    Top Law Firm’s Chairman Allegedly Faked Daughter’s Disability in College Cheating Scandal
    “Is that kosher? Can we do that?” the lawyer asked, according to the transcript.
    “Absolutely,” Singer responded, promising that the only way someone would find out is if one of the Caplans spilled.
    “To be honest, I’m not worried about the moral issue here,” Caplan said later in the call.

    deadspin has excerpts of email exchanges that will flip your rage meter off its dial.

    aaannnd.. the icing on that proverbial cake — the bribes could be tax deductible since they were paid to singer’s nonprofit he established to grease these admissions.

  21. B n A fan says:

    These kind of things have been happening for years. How do you think Don the Con get accepted to the Wharton Business school, his dad Fred payed off the school. There were rumors years ago that Jared’s father donated to Yale over a million dollars. It was widely known jared was a poor student and still got to Yale. Don jr was believed to be a poor student 👩‍🎓 and he went to college. George W Bush went to Yale after a donation was made to the school. When these cheaters are in college they paid other students to write term papers, and cheats on tests. I have been hearing stories like this as far as I can remember. These are the same people who put down affirmative action. The rich always gets favorable treatment.

    • mycomment says:

      re boy blunder… it was Harvard; and daddy ‘contributed’ $2.5 million to grease his entry. and it’s well known that’s how he got into Harvard — not a rumor. and was basically shrugged off as ‘ho hum, that’s the way it works’…

      this is from 2016:

      “There was no way anybody in the administrative office of the school thought he would on the merits get into Harvard,’’ a former official at the Frisch school in Paramus, New Jersey, told me. “His GPA [grade point average] did not warrant it, his SAT scores did not warrant it. We thought, for sure, there was no way this was going to happen. Then, lo and behold, Jared was accepted. It was a little bit disappointing because there were at the time other kids we thought should really get in on the merits, and they did not.’’

      and.. there’s a reason dotard threatens to sue if his grades are released.

    • BengalCat😻 says:

      Yep, nothing about this surprises me at all…well maybe the participants, but otherwise it’s morally corrupt rich people being morally corrupt.

    • FHMom says:

      Yes, the rich have always been able to use their money to help themselves out. There are ways to skirt the law. It’s been happening forever. But this is just flat out criminal activity with no pretense of making it appear legal. There is nothing ambiguous about correcting answers on an SAT test, bribing a coach, etc.

  22. Kittycat says:

    This story is so bizarre and sad.

    These families had the resources to educate their kids and then thought nothing of bribing their kids way into school.

    • Esmom says:

      Yeah. I saw a video clip of Loughlin’s daughter telling an interviewer how her dad cheated his way through college. So she’s no innocent victim who clearly was taught that the rules don’t apply to their family. Enraging.

      • H says:

        What? Do you have a link?

      • Esmom says:

        H, I have to run to work now but will look for it later. Someone posted it on twitter. It’s long but the poster indicated where to forward so you could hear just that part (with context, of course).

      • atlantic says:

        @Esmom: What Lori’s daughter says is that her Dad used what would have been his tuition money to start his fashion line, instead of enrolling in college. She refers to that as ‘cheating.’ The link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY05-Uhcek0

        I think anyone involved in this cheating scandal is despicable. And it’s a juicy enough story that there’s no need to inflate the details. Your post implies that her father cheated his way through college when in fact he never attended.

      • Esmom says:

        Oops, sorry atlantic. I stand corrected. She made it sound like he pretended to go to college but used the money for something else. So I guess he really only cheated his parents or whoever was funding his education. Her point, iirc, was that it was ok since his business ended up being successful.

  23. FHMom says:

    The more I hear about this, the more outraged I am. These people need to have the book thrown at them. It pains me to think of the hard working, nonprivileged kids who were rejected so that these clearly undeserving kids could be admitted to the uni of their parents’ dreams. I wonder how many other ‘facilitators’ there are who have committed similar crimes.

  24. Cee says:

    So not only did this kid get double the time to take the SAT, her answers were then corrected.
    This is unfair to everyone who works hard, whether they have money or not.

  25. Ochar says:

    The half a million dollar part of this is mind blowing to me. If you can afford to spend half a million dollars to cheat your kids way into a school, why wouldn’t you just send her to a different school that she can get into? My husband says it’s a status thing, which makes sense, but my mind just can’t comprehend wasting that much money & it’s not even on tuition! Of course then my train of thought goes to- can these kids not get into any college because their parents never made education a priority? I guess this really is rich people problems that my poor brain cannot understand.

    • mtam says:

      I don’t really understand how it works, but the intention was to be able to write off the money they spent to cheat, so they didn’t really see it as a “waste” or risk to their wealth.

    • Esmom says:

      I know a couple kids who weren’t able to get into college because their parents didn’t make education a priority. It was a real wake up call when all their peers were getting accepted to college and they didn’t have the grades or test scores to get in anywhere. One went into the army and the other one is taking classes at community college.

      College isn’t for everyone, of course, but if a kid is struggling in high school I feel like parents should help support them so that they at least have the chance if they want to go. And by support I don’t mean do the work for them! I mean connect them with teachers and other resources to get them on track instead of letting them flounder and feel like a failure.

    • Veronica S. says:

      It’s a status thing. Not everybody is meant for college, but we’ve devalued blue collar and “unskilled” labor so much that it’s viewed as demeaning for the gentry classes to do it and it’s underpaid enough to make high level wealth impossible to maintain with the income.

      • Lena says:

        Status thing is right. Aunt Becky’s husband a (very Wealthy clothing manufacturer) didn’t want to tell his friends his daughter “only” could get into Arizona State university because at that point her chance of acceptance for any university with a lower acceptance rate was not happening. It’s the parent’s ego here obviously not the daughter who would be happy not even going to college

  26. Laura says:

    These kids don’t even *need* to go to school. Their connections can get them whatever job they most likely want, with or without school.

  27. Momoftwo says:

    Yesterday on Twitter, grain of salt, supposedly this investigation began by Jeff Sessions cause he wanted to prove minorities had an advantage getting into college over white students

    • mycomment says:

      I hadn’t seen that… hahahahahaha… esp because it’s going to highlight the Kushner/trump path to ‘success’…

    • Lynnie says:

      I hate it when people try to pull the Affirmative Action card as the only reason why a minority is in school (can’t be because of hard work, natural smarts, or anything 🙄). Sessions can go f*ck himself with a cactus 👏🏾

      • Anna says:

        Agreed. And if folks want to talk about Affirmative Action, let’s talk about how it’s veterans and white women who have benefited the most. (Not sure demographics of the veterans, that would be also interesting…)

    • Mia says:

      There is a big lawsuit going on right now with Harvard started by a self proclaimed white supremacist and backed by many Asians that wants to dismantle Affirmative Action. All involved incorrectly believe that blacks and Hispanics to a lesser extent are only being accepted because of race and that we are not nearly intelligent like the whites or Asians.

      Really white legacy families are just angry that a lot of their spots are being taking by Asians and Asians are angry about legacy admissions but forget that all, it is the inferior blacks they need to beat back because the hard working Chinese and model immigrant narrative works in their favour. Also many rich Asian families have been doing the sat cheating for years. It is an open secret and has been referenced many times when the superiority of white and Asian IQ’s are brought forward as a reason why they are overrepresented in higher education.

      Can’t say I feel much sympathy for any involved. The system of white supremacy is made for white people and especially for the rich ones. If you are rich and white and you can’t even succeed in it when the system has been tailored and set up to benefit you, we are all supposed to see you as a victim now? I think not. Lord knows enough people already bitch about the poor and the poc children whose only shot at a higher education and opportunity is through sport scholarships. The difference is at least those kids are working hard at something as the school systems in this country have never stopped being segregated.

      These rich kids fabricated athletics too. They could not even try and compensate in one area over another like regular people do.

  28. Darla says:

    I am really jealous of that necklace she is wearing in this picture. But I can do without it, all things considered.

    A thought more of these morons should have.

  29. PlayItAgain says:

    The level of entitlement and stupidity by these rich idiots is staggering. They deserve all the humiliation and whatever legal consequences coming their way.

  30. adastraperaspera says:

    By this point, I bet the FBI know all there is to know about the Huffman and Macy family. I suspect they own guns for their home protection, and it’s a dangerous situation during an arrest. The FBI have every right to protect themselves. Also, we have no idea if they were considering leaving the country to avoid prosecution. We think we know actors because they play beloved roles. But we clearly do not.

  31. Veronica S. says:

    I don’t mind her being arrested, but my God, American police are terrifying. “With guns drawn” – why? What about her history speaks of violence? I guess you could argue her money made her a flight risk, but goddamn. Just imagine how worse it is for minorities down the socioeconomic ladder who are already treated as inherently dangerous by society. No wonder so many people wind up dead at the hands of police.

    Edit: Just remembered the FBI was who arrested her…I guess that explains it, but man, it still makes me vaguely uncomfortable whenever I hear about house raids.

    On a less serious note: all of the Louglin women have terrible fashion sense, apparently. Not one outfit in that picture is appealing.

    • Gigi La Moore says:

      Protocol. No one else gets the benefit of the doubt and neither should she.

      • Veronica S. says:

        It makes fair sense, I agree. I’ve just known one or two people who’ve actually had it happen to them over relatively minor crimes (and it shocks me that I do, honestly), and it was…borderline traumatizing, to say the least. I’d assume the FBI is better trained and a little less trigger happy than local police, but it certainly leaves an impression, that’s for certain.

      • LadyT says:

        Protocol. As a nurse I wear gloves with all patients for my safety. Period. It’s not a decision—-maybe gloves with you, maybe not with her, definitely with him. Who knows? Just be safe with everyone.

  32. Nancypants says:

    I don’t…understand…any…of…this.

    I don’t understand the lying and falsifying and I don’t understand
    7 officers with guns drawn to take her in? What were they thinking?
    Does she and Macy have an arsenal or something?
    Maybe armed security?
    That’s probably it. They probably have armed security.

    I tell ya what, it makes them all look bad.

    Speaking of 7 officers, a few days ago, 911 called us and told us our High School daughter had called for help saying she’d been abducted and her phone was pinging from several miles away.
    She’s fine but for about 30 minutes we were blowing up.

    She got a new phone and number about 3 months ago and T-M gave her # to another girl and never updated their records, so, 7 officers were out looking for the wrong girl.

    That’s messed up and now you know but I still can’t fathom 7 cops with guns drawn going after Felicity Huffman.

    I’m sure I could take her AND Macy without a gun.
    What she did was wrong, wrong, wrong but guns? No.

    • Annika says:

      This wasn’t local law enforcement though….this was the Feds & this is standard protocol for that department.

    • Riley says:

      Absolutely agree! She did something illegal (and morally comtemptable) but guns drawn for a non violent crime sounds like the FBI agents were living out their own fantasy. I feel like the whole world has gone crazy!

      • Tourmaline says:

        Law enforcement agents have been shot when serving warrants and apprehending people. It happened less than a week ago to a U.S. federal marshal in Illinois.

      • wtf says:

        In that case the man was violent, felon with a long rap sheet. And in that case they didn’t surround the house (hotel) and order him out at gunpoint. But in the case of a middle aged woman with no criminal history and an accusation of a non-violent crime, why would you need guns drawn? How and when things get escalated is something that we really need to consider and have clear rules about. We are not barbarians living in a police state. When an non-aggressive, non-violent, gun-free option is available, that should be the rule.

      • Tourmaline says:

        Nope, I’m not going to insist law enforcement go ‘gun-free’ to serve warrants and make arrests. No way. And I hate guns.

  33. QueenB says:

    Abolish Ivy League schools. Its not just contributing to american inequality but because of american domination of the world those unis are even called the best in the world. According to american rating agencies rated by american standards.

    If you put a few so much above the rest and have attendance guaranteeing success people will cheat and bribe.

  34. Salty says:

    I don’t live in the US but it seems to me that money crimes are the most important the FBI make a big deal of an arrest but if you kill someone, or you’re dealing drugs which destroy many lives it appears you get off easy. Don’t understand this at all

    • insertpunhere says:

      I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking it. I’m in the US, and I don’t in any way condone what these people did, but I know a lot of people who have committed terrible crimes who don’t get arrested at all. I work at a foster care agency, and we see kids come in with serious injuries (head trauma, extensive burns, broken femurs, STIs, etc.), and it’s rare that we see anyone actually be punished for any of that.

      Again, bribery and tax fraud are wrong, but in my own personal hierarchy of badness, I’m going to put “sex with a five year old” and/or “stomping on a toddler’s leg until it breaks and needs surgery,” as more morally reprehensible than financial crimes. I think people should get punished for all of these crimes, but maybe we need to focus on serial rapists before Aunt Becky.

      • Patty says:

        It’s really not an either or situation though. That’s why there are different departments in law enforcement who go after various crimes. It’s absurd to suggest people should be able to get away with crime b simply because it’s not as important as crime a. The FBI is more than capable of investigating schemes like these and also investigating criminal behavior that leads to bodily harm. Your local cops should be able to do that too.

  35. megs283 says:

    Why a Boston court?

  36. Jerusha says:

    David Frum’s response to kellyanne conjob, who does not seem to realize she works for the stupidest, lyingest, cheatingest man in all of creation. #trumpcrimefamily #lockthemup

    Funny tweets between Ben Dreyfuss and his mothe re this situation

  37. Ali says:

    It’s very utopian to think that these few kids and their shady parents were all that was standing in the way of the “hard working legit worthy applicants” but these are private big $ elitist schools.

    Higher education in the US is not a meritocracy.

    • Veronica S. says:

      A lot of the Ivy Leagues do offer free tuition to students who get in whose parent’s income is underneath a certain level. However, and needless to say, the type of people who have the academic mettle to get into an Ivy League straight out of high school are typically the sort with access to the best education available, which is not to be found in lower income areas.

      • Elle says:

        Veronica, are you sure that’s the case? When I was in school (at an Ivy) most Ivy’s offered few or no academic scholarships. They offered loans, which poor students have to repay with interest. Sports scholarships did exist.

      • Veronica S. says:

        Harvard and MIT are the ones I know off the top of my head that used to do it. I think the family income had to be around $50,000 or less, but they used to offer full ride if you could meet the qualifications (presumably academic + other endeavors). No idea if it’s still a thing, but I remember talking about it with my mother when one of my classmates that a full ride to Harvard because of it. (He deserved it, don’t get me wrong – brilliant student, perfect score on his SATs.)

      • LAR says:

        Yes, this started in the early 2000s. I went to Harvard in the 90s and did get financial aid, but they beefed up the funds available in a serious way within 10 years.

  38. Catlady says:

    I agree completely. It boggles my mind that so many people choose to be unaware of the danger that police and federal agents face every time they have to arrest somebody. it doesn’t matter if it’s a non violent crime. Just because somebody happens to be a Hollywood actress does not mean that she will go quietly, or that she is not armed, or that she is not panicking about what her future holds and decides to commit suicide by cop. For many suddenly being faced with such a scenario adrenaline kicks in, emotions get in the way of rational thinking, and the common fight or flight response can result in disastrous decisions that can, and do, end in death on one or both sides. Safety has to be the first priority regardless of how it might “look.”

  39. Diane says:

    So bizarre!
    But come on… a team of FBI agents raiding their homes with guns drawn?!

    • me says:

      I saw on the news last week 6 cops showing up to a Black man’s house. The dude was just picking up garbage on his OWN lawn and the cops wanted to know why “he was there”. The guy kept saying “this is MY house”. He then counted the number of cops who had their guns drawn. It’s like damn. So yeah, I could care less if the FBI had their guns drawn on this snotty rich White woman. F*ck her. She was never in danger of getting shot…hell she probably won’t do any jail time either.

      • Diane says:

        @ME, that’s sad example of racism and police abuse. It’s a systematic, terrible national crisis and absolutely needs to be addressed.
        However, that frightening experience and gross overuse of force and firearms doesn’t somehow justify this.
        There were sleeping kids in the house. It could have gone terribly wrong and didn’t need to happen.

      • Anna says:

        @Diane The point is all of the gasps in this thread and in general when the guns drawn are for a rich white woman who is a federal criminal but not the same gasping fervor when it’s a black man being harassed and potentially killed by police for picking up trash at his own home. That’s the point.

      • me says:

        @ Anna

        Thank you !

  40. Eden75 says:

    I am not sure why people are shocked. Rich lazy-a$$ kids were everywhere when I went to school, which I had to bust my a$$ to pay for and attend as I was not eligible for scholarships because I was pregnant and had a kid in Grade 12, despite being at the top of my class.

    The rich and famous have been doing this forever. I will bet that every single person on this board who went to a top tier or Ivy league school knew more than one.

    This pi$$es me off but again, no shock here.

  41. Yep says:

    This just pisses me off to no end. Throw the book at FH and LL and whoever else they find is involved in these types of scams! There are many kids who work so hard and sacrifice for many years in hopes they will get to go to a good college because their future depends on it. The people who think they can buy their kids entrances are all pos. Expose and humiliate!

  42. Elle says:

    Veronica, are you sure that’s the case? When I was in school (at an Ivy) most Ivy’s offered few or no academic scholarships. They offered loans, which poor students have to repay with interest. Sports scholarships did exist.

  43. Crumpets and Crotchshots says:

    Jaysus, that woman has had buckets of plastic surgery.

  44. Molly Fulton says:

    This makes me sick. I still have a little PTSD from going through the admissions process last year with my very bright, accomplished, ambitious daughter. I don’t even have the money to spend on tutoring and test prep – she just had to work hard and compete and know it was still going to be a crap shoot amongst the very most qualified. Fuck these bitches.

  45. CheckThatPrivilege says:

    What a bunch of pretentious, self-entitled, unethical idiots, taking parental failure to whole new levels. Ugh, throw the book at them and their lightweight offspring. I hope some of the kids learn some useful lessons from this, especially since their parents have been teaching them all the wrong things.

  46. HeyThere! says:

    So what happens to the college students that are currently attending at these colleges?!?!?! Do they get kicked out for fraud(harsh but they don’t deserve to be there)???? The sad part for me is the spot they took from someone who worked their ass off to be there.

  47. Mrs. Peel says:

    Have the ladies donate the money $15,000 for Felicity; $500,000 for Lori towards education for inner city kids; expel the lazy ass kids ASAP; and have the women do community service in soup kitchens and homeless shelters – let them see how the rest of us live.

  48. JBones says:

    Bye, Felicity.

  49. holly hobby says:

    Well Roger Stone, this is proof that you weren’t unfairly mistreated. This is the FBI’s mo.

  50. Skyscraper says:

    Lori’s daughters seem to be super flaky, really stupid and vapid. The parents put more effort into clearing away the mountain for the kids instead of teaching them how to scale or walk around it.

  51. Busy Bee says:

    @Kaiser The reason William Macy wasn’t charged is he phone conversation they tapped him on was about the youngest daughter and they didn’t actually go through with having some take the test for her or giving money. Felicity’s arrest is for the older daughters cheating which happened.

  52. Betsy says:

    Someone on twitter said that as restitution, these dumb cluckers should have to give the same amount of money to the school they bribed or cheated their kids into, earmarked for hardworking but financially disadvantaged students.

  53. Gia says:

    What’s worse? Getting caught bribing a college or everyone finding out your offspring is dumb AF ?

  54. CairinaCat says:

    My God Lori’s kid must be REALLLY REALLLY stupid for them to pay half a Million dollars to get her into USC
    I had some moderately stupid friends, that sucked in highschool get into USC no problem.
    One was a pretty much straight C student, the other was B’S and C’S.

    So I just don’t get this, why was it so hard for her to get in?
    Why not shoot for Stanford, Pepperdine, Berkely ect.
    I know lots of stupid people that went to those schools.

    If your serious about school and education you go to UCI , USF ect, those are tough schools. UCI is fierce, if you go for pre med, pscych major and get a 4.0 or higher you can get into ANY medical school or psych program. Because UCI has such high standards an A there is the equivalent of a B or C at other Universities

    But 500k to get into USC lol…..