Royal courtiers are worried about the Sussexes & Cambridges’ ‘competition’


I’m always happy when there are a million royal and royal-adjacent stories happening within several days, honestly. It makes my job easier, and you guys know I love writing about these people. This weekend was especially crazy though – within a 72-hour period, we had the Meghan-approved Gayle King CBS special, the Sussexes’ wedding anniversary (and Instagram post), Lady Gabriella’s wedding (attended by royals), plus William attending some football match and to top it all off, Kate doing the most to promote her garden at the Chelsea Flower Show. Out of all of them, I think Kate probably “won” – Kensington Palace posted photos of the Cambridge kids, plus Kate had three outfit changes within a 24 hour period, so she got SO many headlines. But of course, because these stuffy royals are stuffy, now they think all of these competing headlines are a problem.

William and Kate and Harry and Meghan have fuelled months-long talk of a rift after engaging in what looks increasingly like a game of one-upmanship. There was a prime example yesterday when the Cambridges took their children, Prince George, Princess Charlotte, and Prince Louis to see Kate’s new garden at the Chelsea Flower Show. After the visit, they released charming pictures of the children enjoying Kate’s creation at the show, of which she is intensely proud. Just hours before the event, new parents Harry and Meghan celebrated their first wedding anniversary by publishing a stunning collection of previously unseen behind-the-scenes photographs from their big day last year.

“It was a case of anything you can do, we can do better,” one seasoned royal watcher observed yesterday. Both couples produced a treasure trove of memorabilia for royal enthusiasts but after a spate of similar publicity clashes some aides have expressed concern that the lack of coordination is diluting some of the work of the Royal Family.

“Our diary planning could be better,” one source said. Aides said there was little they could do about their wedding anniversary clashing with the Cambridges at the flower show but courtiers conceded there had been times when both couples had overshadowed the other’s work.

They insisted the Cambridges and Sussexes, who split their household earlier this year, would always draw attention to their favoured causes. But a bigger concern, according to one source, is that efforts to promote Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall’s work risks losing out to the younger members of the Royal Family. Palace officials say they hold regular planning meetings but there will always be diary clashes. At the same time, however, sources have acknowledged that there have been days in the past few weeks when the left hand did not know what the right hand was doing.

On the day last week when Prince William was launching a campaign to use football to persuade men to speak about their emotions, clips of Meghan’s friends giving interviews to a US documentary about how they felt she had been treated unfairly in Britain started to appear. On another day William and Kate launched Britain’s first round-the-clock national text messaging helpline for people in emotional crisis but, even though it was a project supported by Harry and Meghan, the Duke of Sussex was in The Hague, taking publicity away from the launch.

[From The Daily Express]

Well, this is why the Sussexes wanted their own household and their own communications office, honestly. So they wouldn’t have to coordinate endlessly with the Cambridges, only to have Will and Kate constantly pull rank and sideline them. Basically, I hope the Sussexes continue to do what they do and I hope that their actions continue to spur on the Cambridges to do more, to be more engaged, to attempt to one-up the Sussexes. The competition is good. William and Kate have been so much more engaged and truly KEEN since Meghan came on the scene, and that’s good for the royals and for those of us watching the royals. But the real drama is as the Daily Express says – what happens when the Cambridges and Sussexes are so busy trying to one-up each other and Prince Charles is utterly ignored? Hm.

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  1. Tourmaline says:

    That Express article is ridiculous. And written by Richard Palmer of course.

    It lays out the Sussex wedding anniversary and the Chelsea Flower Show as clashing events but then says right that clash couldn’t have been avoided. Duh!

    If both couples, plus other royals like Charles and Camilla, are out there working there is no way to avoid things happening on the same day. And some events are not royal-designed or are scheduled months or a year or more in advance such as the Flower Show and the Hague event for Invictus.

    • Chaine says:

      Pretty sure there are haters out there that believe Meghan and Harry are so devious that they picked their wedding date precisely so that their first anniversary could upstage Kate at next year’s flower show!

    • Becks1 says:

      Exactly! The royals have no control over the flower show (I’m assuming.) The Hague event was scheduled because its a year prior to the start of the Invictus games, and I’m assuming Harry doesn’t have direct control over those dates. etc.

    • Deedee says:

      Richard Palmer has been whining about everything Meghan and Harry are doing and lets the crazy nutcase conspiracy theorists thrive on his Twitter page. He gets no quarter from me.

      • MargaritasForBreakfast says:

        Right! He has blocked me on Twitter & many members of the Sussex Squad (Harry & Meghan defenders on social media best known for coordinating Sussex global baby shower) after it was repeatedly explained to him that yes the British Press is racist & that bashing Meghan while beatifying Kate is racist. Palmer & most of the Royal reporters fiercely lash out at being called racist. I’m puzzled as to why they don’t know stories like Meghan’s avocado toast causing wars & calling Meghan a terrorist sympathizer for meeting with the cookbook ladies in the same mosque Harry & Charles have visited before, are racist in effect and action ESPECIALLY when you paint Kate as a saint who can do no wrong in contrast.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        IMHO, “The Slow” is much more dangerous than “The Daily Fail” as The Slow has much better writers and it seems to me a better educated commentariat than The Daily Fail”.

      • Amy Too says:

        And don’t all of these random racist “stories” that they write also pull attention from Prince Charles and the other royals? Writing random stories about how the queen had to chastise Meghan one year ago during a pre-wedding food tasting, or how 8 months ago Meghan did something that made Kate cry, or trotting our one of the Markles to say nothing in particular but just to cause a stir, are equally, if not more, distracting than royals having events on the same day. Royal watching sites have to cover these articles and dissect why they’re wrong and racist and people have to spend time on Twitter fighting back at all the nonsense, too.

        I also don’t understand the implication that people are unable to view or think about two things in one day. A 20 second wedding picture montage is something you watch once, say “awww” at, and move on from. People take in multiple news stories every day. People follow hundreds of twitter accounts each day. We look at multiple pictures. We’re able to absorb more than one thing each day. They’re a family of people who work publicly. They all have individual birthdays, anniversaries, weddings, whatever, just like every other family. No one should have to not celebrate their anniversary or their kid’s birthday because someone else in their family has an event that week. It’s getting crazy with people saying it’s suspicious that so and so posted a photo ton Instagram 3 days before or after someone else had an engagement. You can’t claim that there needs to be like a week long moratorium on anyone else posting on Instagram or going out in public because the people need an entire week to fully ruminate on your hour long event or latest twitter post.

    • Chica71 says:

      Piers Morgan was even more ridiculous.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Just got back from a trip to The Daily Fail and Mr. Piers Morgan Person just posted a story about the competition of Cambridge vs. Sussex. As much as I hate to do this, I must give the Piers Person credit where credit is due: Piers Morgan Person is an equal opportunity asshole as he threw all four of the Fab Four under a big fat London Double Decker bus at the same time. All I can surmise is that THE DAILY FAIL is desperate.

      • PrincessK says:

        Piers Morgan said in an earlier article, that Harry and Meghan are like and I quote: “international rock stars” and “ William and Kate are annoyed by being made to look like boring irrelevances by comparison”. Morgan goes on to say that W&K take precedence and H&M should step back from the limelight.

        This is yet further evidence that journalists like Morgan, Palmer and Camilla Tominey are all on board with the agenda to raise up the Cambridges and pull the Sussexes down.

        The picture of little Archie with the Queen , Duke and Doria must have incensed them, but it was clearly endorsed by the Queen and the Palace.

  2. Elizabeth1992 says:

    “They insisted the Cambridges and Sussexes, who split their household earlier this year, would always draw attention to their favoured causes. But a bigger concern, according to one source, is that efforts to promote Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall’s work risks losing out to the younger members of the Royal Family”.

    Well, that was always going to be a problem for Charles and Camilla (especially Charles) – being outshone by the younger royals. Because to be honest, the younger royals have always been more interesting even when Charles and his siblings were the “younger royals”. No one’s going to overlook the Queen but Charles is indeed at risk of this :) and the “competition” if it exists has nothing to do with this.

    • Tourmaline says:

      Interesting that now that Meghan is in the family, NOW the so-called courtiers are worrying so much about Charles and Camilla being outshone by the younger (i.e., pushing 40 instead of 75) royals. Sorry but I think that ship has sailed long ago–no one is going to avidly watch every event and outfit of those two.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Charles may want the additional attention but I do not think Camilla does.

        Camilla seems to have taken lessons from The Princess Royal in that she just Keeps Calm, Carries On, Does the Work then Moves On to the next engagement. I mean this as a compliment to Camilla as well as The Princess Royal.

      • KEEKS says:

        I don’t know. On their trip through Germany, there is a photo of Charles muddling some mint and vodka and he looks gooned, and another where they are drinking beer. It might have been interesting to see how drunk they were on their tour.

      • Tina says:

        These are royals. The Queen Mother lived to 102 whilst drinking about a pint of gin per day.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Keeks, I have read in a book on Charles that Camilla really likes her wine. I think all the Royals, including George VI, Queen Elizabeth-Queen Mother and QEII, very often & regularly partake in spirits as part of their daily bread.

    • Megan says:

      We have a saying in fundraising, all boats rise together. They need to stop worrying about who is stepping on whose press. The more interest there is in the royals, the more press they will all get.

  3. MissyS. says:

    I think Harry and Meghan are doing extremely well for themselves considering the fact that the British press and Palace “sources” have waged a disgusting smear campaign against them. I also think it’s sad that the press is inciting these fan wars. Most of us can enjoy multiple stories and photos at the same time.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      I always thought the “smear” campaign was more the property of the British Press to generate click-bait than “palace sources”.

    • Noway says:

      I think a fair amount of it is the courtiers and other royal staff. I mean the British monarchy is nothing if not a bit dramatic. I mean they aren’t beheading anyone any more so you get this drama. I find this story funny as it’s definitely been propagated by the courtiers. They love to pit royal against royal.

  4. Aang says:

    As if it’s just too taxing to look at an Instagram pic of a wedding AND a pic of a cute toddler on the same day. I find this whole thing weird.

    • MissyS. says:

      I agree 100%. Most of us are mature enough to enjoy and celebrate multiple events at the same time. All of these stories about feuds, competitions, and Instagram followers are so petty. And none of those stories are important enough to be breaking news or on the front pages of newspapers.

    • Mego says:

      Ha ha was thinking the same thing. This is a non story.

    • Linda says:

      I also find it weird too. Can’t we enjoy both couples at the same time?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        We can enjoy both couples, Anne, the Tindalls, the Wessexes, C&C and QEII at the same time but it does not generate click-bait for $$$ for The Fail, The Dim & The Slow. Piers Morgan would starve to death (he may be now) and social media may makes this happen sooner rather than later.

  5. Mia says:

    I don’t understand the “competition” here, as Meghan and Harry couldn’t change their wedding anniversary date and neither could Kate change the date of the flower show, or William the date of the football match (which he missed last year because of H+M wedding). This was all out of their control.

    • Hermione says:

      Stop making sense. There has to be a made up controversy cause everything is Meghan’s fault.

      • Fiona says:

        Or William’s. It all depends on what “team” conspirators favor.

      • Mumbles says:

        Someone commented on the other post how this is always going to be a busy time of the year for these folks – birthdays for Charlotte, Louis, and Archie, the Sussex anniversary, and anything else that comes up, such as the Flower Show. Hopefully by next year this “feud” stuff will be a thing of the past.

        As for Charles’s nose being out of joint, I don’t get it. He becomes king no matter what. Back in the 1980s the Queen wasn’t threatened by the attention on Diana or Fergie.

  6. Franke says:

    Utter rubbish article from the Daily Express. No way to change the dates on any of these events. I suspect the actual staffs are happy that the royals are out there doing their jobs and gaining great PR for their initiatives. They have had almost overwhelming positive coverage lately, let’s not turn it into a negative.

    And by lately I mean the last two weeks. Yes, I realize that the press still has a racism issue with Meghan long term.

    • Deedee says:

      And Richard Palmer doesn’t understand how social media works. One royal event builds up other royal events, as you click from one story to the other. He is such a terrible whiner.

      • Tourmaline says:

        Good point, he actually despises social media because it is cutting into his archaic job. It’s not like someone looks at a Kensington Palace instagram post and then says, oh no I have surpassed my royal instagram viewing quota for today, I can’t click on the Sussex Royal post.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I read the comments of the Daily Fail just for entertainment and it finally occurred to me that there are paid-posters just making crap up to rile up the “real” commentariat.

        The only agreed upon thought and idea (on The Daily Fail), from 90% of the posters regardless of which team they are on, is that the BRF spends to much money, regardless of whose money it is they are spending, and throws it in the face of the average suffering taxpayer. I think this is a very good point.

  7. JAGirl says:

    it’s more the Cambridge’s competing than the Sussex’s. Its so obvious, especially on Instagram.
    Once there is a Sussex post the Cambridge’s flood their feed with posts, and they become sooo active once Harry and Meghan get any major attention. It’s gotten so obvious and weird now, serious jealousy at play here!

    • Linda says:

      But why the competition though? They are all popular and people can enjoy them all at the same time.

      • Betsy says:

        Some people are naturally competitive, like toddlers. Like they only want that toy when it’s in someone else’s hands. William and Kate seemed fine with doing nothing much at all, enter Meghan who really was keen to get on with Royal work and William and Kate suddenly started showing up. I’m too lazy to check, but that seems to be mathematical fact to me.

  8. MissyS. says:

    If Harry and Meghan were really competing with the Cambridges, then they could have easily stolen thunder by releasing photos of Archie. Photos and videos of the Cambridge children are a nice treat, but a photo of the new baby would be the true moneymaker.

    • lynn says:

      I agree, an Archie photo with his parents without a hat would have taken over the news. Harry and Meghan are just keeping it moving and being their regular selves, the Cambs though… I mean we had never heard George, Charlotte speak now all over sudden they speak with press on hand AND little Louis running around, the Cams brought biggest play to the field. Still the Sussex almost have 7 million viewers for just one video on their instagram of events from lasy year….

      • Noway says:

        Okay I think you are a bit unfair and looking through your Meghan and Harry drunk glasses. George is 6, of course we have never heard from him, and you really didn’t hear much now. Did you expect him to do a sit down with Oprah at 3. He’s considerably taller than the last picture I saw of him, and Louis is walking so I think as far as parents go and shielding their children the Cambridges have done a pretty good job. I’m sure the Sussexes will as well, and they should. A few pictures here and there are fine, but let them be kids some too.

        Bringing up stats on videos is just crazy, are you sure you aren’t a courtier? First of all I’ll bet a bunch of people on the Sussexes instagram are American, probably well over half, and guess what we dumped a bunch of English tea to get away from them so we don’t really count in the PR game of British royalty. We should count for tourism, but for some silly reason I noticed when the Brits talk about the cost of the monarchy, they never add in the advantage of the monarchy and tourism.

      • Casey20 says:

        Norway: You have ZERO idea about what you’re talking about! The Brits are so desperate for America’s favor that the Queen will be given Trump a carriage ride and rolling out the golden carpet. May would NEVER get anything close to that in the states. They are correct about Archie. A photo of Archie would’ve gone viral. The Cambridge ‘s are worried they will fall second to Sussex’s in popularity. Lastly the Brits DO NOT pay one single pound to the RF…….it’s a BIG LIE!!!!

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      • Lynn says:

        Nope, I am not at courtier, we know who they courtiers favour though… I said what I said. Wills and Kate are playing hardball right now. As far as I can see they are not liking Harry and Meghan’s popularity hence PR over kill in the last few days. I can quote IG numbers if I want to and yes Kensington IG is trying to keep up with Sussexes, I mean they even copied they way they caption their posts. In my opinion, as long as they don’t throw Meghan and Harry under the bus, then being copying doesn’t look too bad..

      • BayTampaBay says:

        If the UK goes through with a hard BREXIT, the UK will need the USA and the Commonwealth more than they ever have since WWII.

      • Lady D says:

        Without a hat? What does a hat have to do with seeing his picture?

      • Betsy says:

        @Lady D – sweet little baby hair and more of his face!

      • RoyalBlue says:

        Lynn you are so correct on the Cambridges playing hardball. The IG account is a dead giveaway. They could have posted all the Sunday promo pictures of the family in one post but instead spread them out in several posts. We 👀 you Cambridges. At least they are working so no complaints from me there I just hate when they use the children to get the attention.

    • Mego says:

      Harry and Meghan are not competing with anyone. Cambridges? Yep there are times I think they do mainly using their children to keep the spotlight on them.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        For sure Mego. They know full well people love to coo and ahh over babies and children. Not me though.

  9. maude says:

    Not as familiar with this publication as I am with the Daily Fail but i suspect (sarcasm) that it’s another of those red top tabloids that never reports on “real” news. Next…

    • Becks1 says:

      Richard Palmer haaaaaates Meghan. He didn’t use to (at least I don’t think so?) but he’s really blatant about it now. All couched in things like “if Meghan isn’t careful, shes going to risk….” (turning someone against her usually – the public, the press, the queen, foreign governments, british fashion designers, other charities, you name it, according to Palmer, she’s risking it.)

      • MissyS. says:

        Richard Palmer and a couple of other royal correspondents revealed that they have been trying to get exclusive interviews with Meghan since her engagement to Harry was announced, but they rightfully keep getting denied access to her. This is the main reason Meghan gets so much bad press. She and Harry refuse to kiss a** and suck up to the royal reporters. Will and Kate are the future King and Queen Consort, so they are required to give certain amounts of access to the media. I don’t understand why the press is so obsessed with info about the Sussexes when they could easily focus all of their attention on Charles and Camilla and the Cambridges.

    • Deedee says:

      Take a look at the people he lets post in his Twitter feed claiming Archie is a doll and nutters saying there’s a surrogate hidden somewhere.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        These same nutters post on the Daily Fail and claimed to be crowd sourcing to send the psycho to NYC to attack Meghan and prove she was not pregnant, There are some sick puppies out there.

      • olive says:

        @Deedee what do you mean by “the people he lets post in his twitter feed”? are you referring to the people who reply to his tweets? twitter users cannot control who replies to their tweets, it’s not like instagram where you can delete comments on your post. you can block someone, but that just means YOU cannot see their tweets anymore, not that everyone else can’t see their tweet(s) replying to you – if bob replies to your tweet with a nasty comment and you block bob, i can still see bob’s tweet under yours unless i also block bob. there is no way to remove someone else’s tweet – you can only control your own viewing.

  10. Becks1 says:

    Of course this is from Richard Palmer, since the implication is that Harry and Meghan are trying to take attention away from Kate and Will. He actually seems to be saying that Harry should not have gone to the Hague since it took attention away from the text message launch.

    Honestly they all should just work regularly enough that its not a big deal. That’s part of the problem right now, none of them work as often as they should, so when they do make an appearance (Especially Kate), it makes a lot of headlines because we don’t see her that much relatively. And all of Harry’s appearances right now are obviously going to overshadow other royals since people are so excited about the baby.

    I feel like the sussexes cant win. People on twitter were complaining that Harry and Meghan (and Archie!!!!!) did not show up to the garden show to support Kate. But if that was Meghan’s first official appearance post baby photocall, can you imagine the criticism for “taking the spotlight away from Kate.” (and lets not get into the ridiculousness of the suggestion that the 3 week post partum woman should attend a flower show.)

    • Franke says:

      Right. This all should just be business as usual. Richard should just shut up.

    • Tourmaline says:

      I so agree with your point, they should all work regularly enough that its not a big deal. When you want your every appearance or social media post to be a Very Special Guest Appearance you get ridiculous pish-posh like this.

      The Cambridges were used to being the only young(ish) game in town for a long time, and they are obviously struggling with sharing the spotlight.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Do not forget that before Meghan, everything Harry did only made the Cambridge’s look better due to the reflected glory they received from Harry being part of their “team”.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Its also worth remembering the recent article where a charity was told Kate was going to be more selective about what she does and who she supports. I took that to mean that she’s only going to turn up to events where she is going to get the maximum press exposure – the less she is seen the more the press coverage she will get.

      The outdoor stuff does work for her as thats something she relates to, esp as she’s done a lot for the Scouts which is more than she has done for some of her other patronages. She loves the sailing events that she does. For me the issue is that its not been packaged up and rolled out well – it doesn’t seem as if any thought has gone into it. There is a niche for her in the outdoors, sports and mental health area – gardening is also a great activity for people with MH issues. Its also something she could work with Chuck on – he does love his gardens.

  11. JaneDoesWork says:

    The timing of the flower show and wedding anniversary is coincidence. That said, Kate is known to be competitive so I don’t think its a coincidence that we have seen Kate be more active and involved in the firm since Meghan came along. I agree its a good thing! Whatever gets the poor sausage to work is a positive in my opinion.

    • Lizzie says:

      …i agree with you. maybe there is a coincidence in timing but it is no mystery why kate is out there sharing pics and getting her family out there. i could set your watch to my SIL’s competitive internet sharing.

      neither of us will post a picture for months and as soon as i do, she posts an almost identical picture of herself or kids the next day. clockwork.

      • Lynn says:

        Lizzie, I agree. I heard they complained when Harry posted Earth day pics, day before Louis or Charlotte birthday (not sure which child). So why complain if you are goiing to do the same, shouldn’t everyone just celebrate important announcements as they come. Also I do not get the reason why someone needs 2 days to celebrate a birthday, someone make this make sense?

  12. Civey says:

    Well, all I can say is at least William and Kate are working now!!! It would have been good for them to work together but people are resistant to change ….. until they see the effects !!!! It’s shameful that someone from the outside had to show them how to do their jobs!!!! Or at least show them a new way of doing things! It’s no secret that they have been paying attention to how the Sussex’s having been doing things. Meghan lit a fire under that ass !!! It’s a undeniable fact !!!! It’s good for the family or firm as a whole!

  13. Lexa says:

    I’ve seen a few articles pop up with this narrative and find it suspicious that it’s happening while Charles and Camilla are on an unannounced tour that’s getting somewhat lost in the coverage of the Flower Show and the wedding anniversary photos… much like their last tour got a bit lost in the Archie birth excitement. Maybe I’m being paranoid, but it feels like the Clarence House courtiers are trying to start another wave of drama to keep the feud alive.

    • Leena says:

      Different members of the RF do different things on same day – hold the front page!

    • Tourmaline says:

      But what Charles and Camilla do ALWAYS gets lost in the coverage of other royals. They do a LOT of tours and events, actually, and you really have to search it out if you want to see pictures of them.

      I don’t think that Charles and Camilla are planning their engagements, of which they do a lot relative to how old they are, with an eye to keeping a feud between William and Harry alive. That would be totally bizarre.

  14. Dignity says:

    Shameful that the article is not blaming the keenbridges. They launched the shout out charity when Harry was still in Hague not waiting him to come back before. The S. worked on it also not only just supporting the projet.
    They knew Harry and Meghan wedding anniversary is the 19th may so why they chose the almost same date. The Sussex posted their marriage video before the keenbridges go full force posting later on the same day garden photos and videos of kids. They never did that before even for the birthdays of their precious kiddies. So who is copying who? Sure it’s not the sussexroyal. This shows the hate is deep. Blaming Meghan for celebrating her own wedding. I saw Kate fans stating even that Meghan stole Gabriella thunder who married a day before. Her racist mother didn’t know the Sussex date of the wedding? Why she chose the day before Harry and Meghan wedding. Sad. Poor Meghan. She just has to disappear then all of those haters, courtiers, Cambridge, will be happy.

  15. Eyfalia says:

    I am quite capable to follow Clarence House on Twitter and the Sussexes on Instagram and even look at the photos of the Kensington Palace, all nearly at the same time. It’s not really hard work to do that. I even manage to like what I like and to comment on it.

  16. MargaritasForBreakfast says:

    Why is the Gayle King special STILL being referred to as “Meghan-approved”? Gayle King is professional enough to know she can’t get Meghan’s official approval. If she had it wouldn’t have been just Daniel & 1 actress. It would have been Serena & half the cast from Suits & Amal & Jessica Mulroney. Be better than the racist Royal reporters hell bent on denying Meghan any positive coverage in the UK. Don’t be tabloid evil. U.S. 🇺🇸 positive coverage matters because the Caribbean countries, African countries, France, Canada & to a certain extent Australia follows suit with positive coverage. Meghan has fans in all these places.

    • Vanessa says:

      It’s ridiculous every new married in royal get a special about them on a anniversary how many specials has Kate and William gotten through the years . This narrative that Meghan had a hand in this cbs special about her is getting out control people are acting like Meghan is a puppeteer master like she called gayle told her to make a special about her . Every royal before Meghan has a special about them where the special paints them in a good light the only difference is that Meghan has been portrayed by the British media and the royal reporters as a demanding woman they have reported on her in a racist way They use her awfully family to take cheap shots at her . The coverage around Meghan by the British press has been disgusting racist hateful.

  17. Digital Unicorn says:

    I think the real issue is that Meghan is young dynamic woman who comes from a very different background than those who are part of the Royal Households (all of them). To me it seems there is a bit of a culture clash going on, she’s media savvy and has her own ideas of what/how she does things which has got the back up of the old stuffy courtiers who all just need to retire.

    Also its worth noting that the family dynamics of the BRF were always a bit on the toxic side with snowflake egos.

    There has def been a breakdown in comm’s between the offices of the 2 couples as yeah things could be co-ordinated better but as we saw Harry was asked to reschedule an event due to his father and brother/SIL doing events at the same time. I suspect this is the start of a new trend, the Sussex’s being asked to cancel events as not to take press attention away from certain other family members. And yes I am talking about the Cambridges, who WILL pull rank.

    • Lady D says:

      If the royals set their own schedules, why can’t they just say no thanks, we’re going to go ahead as planned? Seriously, what is the worst that could happen? It’s not like they are going to get fired.

  18. aquarius64 says:

    Wait until Trump comes to town. The Fail stated the Cambridges are going to the state banquet and the Sussexes aren’t (the Sussexes win here in my opinion.) Will and Kate are really going to have to prove they are king and queen material by dealing with a head of state that insulted Diana and Kate. This is also karma for William, if true, egging on the Tom Sr stories.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Chuck and Cams are hosting them at Clarence House for tea. Its worth noting that the Trumps likely won’t be staying at Buckingham Palace as its undergoing extensive restoration work at the moment – Obama got to stay there during his state visit. I think I read that they will be staying at the US ambassador’s residence instead but not sure if it’s been confirmed.

      I wonder if they will serve him a coke, big mac and fries at the state banquet? There is a McDonalds close to the Palace in Victoria train station. hahaha

      • BayTampaBay says:

        As a citizen of the USA, I here and now apologize to ALL of the UK for all the sh*t the UK will have to go through during the visit of Donald J. Chump.

      • Casey20 says:

        BayTampaBay at this point the Brits are happy to eat all of Trump’s shit and will thank him for it and ask for more! I feel sorry for them because after Trump serves up his shit to the Brits he will turn on them…Orange A-ho!e!!!

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        @Casey20: Not true of the British people, we will be out there with the Trump Baby Blimp making what we think of him known. Our awful politicians are a different story, although quite a few have refused to attend the state banquet and the orange sh!tstain is trying to get an invite for Nigel Farage (one of the most hated politician’s in the UK as well as being our no.1 Trump assh0le licker).

      • Tourmaline says:

        I am constantly having flashbacks to the show The Windsors while I read this threads, but if anyone else has seen it (it’s on Netflix in the US), there is quite a DOOZY of an episode regarding Trump and … Camilla.

    • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

      Considering that Meghan actually endorsed Hillary, and was outspoken about Dump-a-Lardo, it’s not a big surprise she wouldn’t come off maternity leave for *this* particular State Dinner. I sure as hell wouldn’t! lol

      Though I have to say, I would’ve loved to see what tiara she got to wear (if it’d be the wedding tiara or a different one).

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Chump is not important enough to put on full makeup for let alone a tiara.

        I think a paper Burger King birthday party crown would serve adequately for this state dinner.

    • Leena says:

      @ Casey20 I think you ought to learn a little bit before you post. As a Brit I can honestly tell you that we loathe Trump as much as we loathe our own politicians at the moment.

      All you are doing with these posts are making yourself look silly

      • Casey20 says:

        Leena: Is your government rolling out the golden carpet for Ole Bone Spurs? Will he have the high honor of a state dinner? Will be have a carriage ride? If I’m incorrect in any of those statements I apologise if I’m correct who’s the silly one!
        Digital Unicorn: point taken and I hope good Brits like yourself make that carriage ride miserable as possible for the Orange Clown!!!

      • Fiffy says:

        @Casey20 over a million British people signed a petition saying he shouldn’t visit and have a proper state visit (think it was 2 years ago?) . As soon as this visit in July was announced a protest was planned. Brits hate trump as much you guys do! Also the general public don’t get to choose whether he receives a carriage ride or not. Its the government only

      • MargaritasForBreakfast says:

        Leena I don’t doubt your word but on Twitter & YouTube pro-Brexit right wingers are the most vocally anti-meghan. I associate it with anti foreigner & anti immigrant & anti dark skin people sentiment.

      • Leena says:

        @Casey20 – I quote your post ” at this point the Brits are happy to eat all of Trump’s shit”

        Did you read my post at all when I pointed out that the Brits do not like Trump and are not happy with him, his shit, or his policies? And WE didn’t vote him in as out president. Unfortunately it has not stopped our government from inviting him. Having said that the Chinese President also came on a state visit which attracted big demonstrations again. Many world leaders have had state visits – I believe the Queen has hosted over 100 during her reign. There is nothing special about Trump’s visit and I bet the Queen is happy to have an excuse not to have him staying at Buck House.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        AND the American cousins of these Pro-BREXSHIT people are the ones that voted for Ronald McDonald J. Chump.

      • lawyergal says:

        @Leena. Actually, I just think Casey is a passionate fighter, and if you personally really loathe Trump, then you should be up in arms (as Digital Unicorn is) and stating how you plan to protest. #NotAllBritishPeople is a waste of time and stifles conversation as generalizations are going to happen; you made one yourself when you said the Brits do not like Trump…clearly some do, particularly Brexit folk. I have no problem with anyone saying Americans suck – because we do, generally speaking.

      • Leena says:

        @lawyergal, sorry I will amend my statement – most Brits do not like Trump.

        I know quite a few Brexit folks, and they don’t like Trump either. Actually I don’t see an obvious correlation between being a Brexiteer and liking or hating Trump to be honest.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Leena, One Word: RACISM
        Two Words: White Supremacy
        Twin Sons of different mothers: Chump and Bojo

      • Leena says:

        @ BTB even most Brexiteers don’t like Bojo! And actually a lot of brexiteers aren’t racist. There is a difference being concerned about mass immigration (most of whom were white in the noughties) and racism.

        I am not claiming right or wrong just saying.

  19. Karen2 says:

    Theres no competition. One lot are the modern heirs to a throne the other lot are basically irrelevant but need lifestyle & charity money so pander to the media. Gettit. & Everyone should value both couples( if they’re into Royalty) cos as past events have shown you never know what the future holds for them.

    • Casey20 says:

      Karen: You’re clueless!

    • JBooJohn says:

      No bias on your part, of course.

    • olive says:

      you are SUCH a karen

    • MargaritasForBreakfast says:

      The people woukd rather watch paint dry than pay any attention to one lot…

    • MargaritasForBreakfast says:

      Absolutely Correct. They ramble on about Trump, deep state, socialism evil Obama, saul alinsky etc & somehow associate Meghan with all that. This makes me think a chunk of the anti Meghan trolls are paid coordinated political trolls in both countries. Pro Trump in the U.S. & Pro Brexit in the U.K. They don’t care if some nutter harms meghan & Archie

    • Lowrider says:

      It’s the truth. The competition is manufactured by the media and supplied to the insecure haters that live through each couple. The sussexes do not matter in the long game. Harry said, once Boy George and his spares grow up it’s a wrap for him.

    • norah says:

      wow – what a crappy remark to make. if harry and meghan are so irrelevant why cant the reporters just leave them alone and focus on kate and william instead? they are still bullying meghan while she is away with her baby and harry is still doing his engagements

  20. Casey20 says:

    Title of Article should be: Royal Reporters are promoting division between Sussex and Cambridge household.. Meanwhile Meghan and Harry are taking care of their newborn, Kate’s enjoying her 4th Maternity Leave and William is smelling the Roses!

  21. Guest says:

    William and Kate are so.boring and literally have to.bring their kids out to gain attention at this point. Their affair story was the most exciting story that they had in a long while.
    As for Meghan and harry who knows if they will continue to garner attention but they work hard and do great projects.

    • Nora says:

      Guest, yes sounds about right, Meghan and Harry have measurable projects under the belt – that’s why people are interested in what they are doing. As for Kate and Bill, I wonder how they measure the outcome of what they do, do their aides or courtiers even care?

    • Linda says:

      William and Kate are so boring and yet there are several stories on them here daily with more comments and has been for years. They have thousands of people viewing their Instagram posts and the ability to attract the attention of the global media. This is also the same situation for Harry and Meghan. Face it, both couples are very popular almost worldwide and people are fascinated by them.

      • norah says:

        william and kate do have lots of people commenting but that is usually about her clothes her hair and her face and her adorable kids – and a lot of shade thrown against meghan if you read the comments on the instagram page. meghan and harry both have things happening which are far more interesting

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @norah, I would say that Wills taking up the cultivation of the Norfolk Rose Bush is pretty damn interesting.

  22. FluffyPrincess says:

    The picture of Kate on the rope swing is great. I feel like THIS is the real Kate Cambridge. Outdoorsy, not so fussy, ready to muck about. And, of course, with her children, she always looks relaxed and happy. If she could lean into this more and really make this her “brand” and give it some real effort, that would be ideal.

    The flowered dresses seem to be her theme this year, and while it’s not my taste, I do think it’s better than the year(s) of the lace doily dresses. I am not a lace fan though, so it really taints my opinions on those dresses.

  23. Beech says:

    Chawles, Iknowit’sanincorrectspelling, was jealous of Diana, so does the future hold a jealous Will, future monarch seething at future POW George or worse, adoreable children of George and his beautiful and charismatic wife. Oo lala indeed! Or handsome and charismatic partner. Royal Foibles alluded to George echoing Papa’s metrosexual ways. Do tell.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      I read somewhere that Charles was jealous of Bill Cambridge and this was the reason Charles was in no hurry to see Bill married, with his own family, having a title in his own right and developing his own Cambridge brand.

      • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

        It’s really a sad commentary that what you said, BayTampaBay, isn’t the least bit surprising. Charles really is a spoiled, petulant, and jealous person. While I give him props for how he stepped up for Meghan at the wedding, and how touchingly inclusive he was with Doria, I just can’t “like” him all that much.

      • Leena says:

        You read somewhere? I read lots of fiction too! :lol:

      • Casey20 says:

        Leena: You’re quickly becoming the A-hole poster!!!

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Let me make this clear: I like Charles. After viewing “Charles at 70″, my opinion on him took a complete 180%. However, I read many places that he has a jealous streak and is capable of being jealous of his own children when it comes to the work of the BRF.

        @Leena, I will try and find the book tonight and post the name of the author tomorrow.

      • Leena says:

        Thank you BTB

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Leena: Tom Bower, Rebel Prince

      • Leena says:

        Thanks, I will have a look

    • Leena says:

      @ Casey20 on this thread alone you have called one poster clueless, told another they have zero idea what they are talking about and now you call me a A-hole poster!

      Look in a mirror darling.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Leena & Casey20, Please calm down and I will buy you both a glass of wine.

        Let us change the conversation to the really important things that really matter in life; frocks, shoes & handbags.

      • Casey20 says:

        Lol, I’ll take you up on that glass of virtual wine! Leena, until next time (😃, but A-hole poster was a good one, right)

      • Leena says:

        @ BTB -Haha, sorry but I just can’t let some misinformation about “us Brits” go without defending my country. :lol:

        I will happily join you in a glass (or three) of wine, I’ll even go Dutch with you. xx

        (Actually I’m not keen on Kate’s Erdem dresses, but I did like those culottes, and don’t blame her for wearing wedges on such occasions, much more comfortable than stilettos). Is that better?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Ladies, & Gentlemen,

        I am F*&king unoffendable when I hang out here with my favorite buds. Feel free to call me out at anytime on any subject . If everyone agrees then only one person is necessary and I ain’t leaving unless CB throws me out.

      • Leena says:

        @BTB – you mean you have never been thrown out of here before?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Not to date but lots of my have posts have been deemed “Not fit for purpose” by the powers that be. LOL!.

        I credit not being “throwed out” high heels & all due to I have only been hanging here for about six months. I found this excellent facility when I was Googling…er…researching Norfolk Rose cultivation.

  24. Vanessa says:

    I mean how dare Meghan and Harry celebrate their wedding anniversary their just so shameful obviously Meghan and Harry pick may 19 for their wedding. Because they knew in advance that Kate the mostly perfect future queen to ever live would be doing a garden show a year after the wed . The royal reporters can’t make up their minds when it comes to Meghan either she doesn’t know her place she playing with fire but on one hand their can’t seem to keep her name out their mouths .

  25. Beech says:

    @Fluffyprincess, the lace dress of Ascot reminded me of ye olde timey clothing brand from the 70s, Gunnie Sax, while the floral dress is a mix of 60′s hippie maxi, back to the country look crossed with sister wives’ wardrobe. Neither look is appealing to my eye. I was all about the mini skirts.

    • FluffyPrincess says:

      @Beech, I agree with you on both counts. I distinctly remember that Ascot dress–gah. And the teal lace long dress. The color was so, so so bad, and made that dress look cheap and like a knockoff bridesmaids dress. And, I am not feeling the Gunnie Sax deal going on in Fashion. I remember it the first time, and even then couldn’t climb aboard that fashion train. Just no. And it’s still a no.

      Mini-skirts! Sleek, modern cuts. Bold colors! That’s my ticket.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I am a fan of Victoria Beckham’s collections/designs myself for the bold colors and modern cuts.

  26. jwoolman says:

    However will people in the U.K. manage to pay attention to more than one story at once?

    No multitaskers in the entire country, I presume.

  27. Nic919 says:

    Richard Palmer is the same guy who tried to suggest that Meghan bypassing royal reporters to post things on social media is the same as the White House crooks lying to the media and Dump posting his crazy tweets. He is delusional about the level of importance of royal reporters, who really are nothing more than glorified PR for the royals. I lost all respect for him when he thought it was ok to attack a tax law professor in the US for pointing out that RRs mostly report gossip and then Richard went and started bashing the university he taught at by posting negative articles about the university.

    He still interacts with megxit trolls on twitter as well and always tries to write off any Meghan support as only being from middle aged American women. The gaslighting and sexism is non stop with him.

    • Syd says:

      He showed his racist ugly self with those comments about the Professor. He’s just the worst.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Wast it racist or anti-US American or both.

      • Nic919 says:

        He’s never explicit about being racist, but when the professor is stating that the UK tabloid treatment of Meghan is an example of misogynoir and Palmer responds dismissively, there is certainly a condescending element to it all.

  28. JanetFerber says:

    Which baby is that with Kate? It looks like George.

    • Leena says:


    • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

      Little Louis! He IS looking more and more like George (both take after her father, IMO).

      • Casey20 says:

        100% Middleton…nothing Windsor or Spencer about the Cambridge children all Middleton!!

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Casey20, I must most respectfully disagree. I think Charlotte is the spitting image of QEII.

      • Casey20 says:

        She looks like a Middleton and that is a compliment! Middletons age poorly but have good looks. Windsor looks aren’t as good but they age better…..except Phillip and William who used up all of their good looks in their youth. Hope Harry has Charles’s genes because Charles is getting better with age!!!

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        I always thought Louis looks like her brother James, even in the recent photo’s I still think it.

    • FluffyPrincess says:

      I think Louis looks just like Kate’s father Michael Middleton. I don’t see much Windsor/Spencer in him. I think George is a blend of both and that Charlotte is 100% Windsor. She looks so much like the Queen to me.

      But it doesn’t matter really. They are all lovely children, who look happy and healthy and vivacious, and well-loved, which is all that matters in the end. <3

  29. Jen says:

    If all three couples are working regularly (which they should be when not on leave), there will always be conflicts.

    Of course, Palmer probably thinks Meghan looked up the date of the flower show a year and a half ago in hopes of overshadowing Keen Kate’s design with her anniversary pictures. And that’s the real reason for the tears at the dress fitting.

  30. Lowrider says:

    Manufactured drama by the lame Royal reporters

  31. Dali says:

    I think what some people forget is, that they work for the firm, the British “empire”. For the image, for the people’s support of the RF Overall. They need the support of the people and they need a good image and that’s the job of the royals these days , to please the people who pay for them. It doesn’t matter if they clash in timing of their work, it matters that they are seen and out and about there to be admired. My guess is that the younger royals were not lazy before but protected to live their lives as normal as possible before they get older and have to go more puplic with their work and lives. If harry met meghan 10 years ago, everything would’ve been different. Now they are all old and mature enough to work publicly. But that’s just my assumption.

    • Casey20 says:

      How much do the “people” pay for them?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        More than the BRF care to admit.

        In the USA we taxpayers do not pay for Melania’s designer clothes but we do pay for ALL the security….ie…every private weekend trips to Dar-a-Largo. The taxpayer would come out ahead paying for Melania’s designers duds and handing the bill for security to Chump.

        What is sick (and very expensive) is that as an ex-president Chump & Melania will have Secret Service security protection for the rest of their lives and Barron will have it until he is 18 years of age.

      • Casey20 says:

        BayTampaBay: The Brits don’t pay taxes toward the Royal Family…its a LIE or it could be the Amerian interpetation of paying taxes. The RF incomes comes from the 2 Duchy’s and the Crown Estate. So if you’re thinking each year the Brits pay taxes to the governement and portion goes to the RF, that’s wrong.

      • Tina says:

        British taxpayers pay directly for the costs of the security of the royal family. British taxpayers pay over £100m each year in security costs for the royals. That is separate from the Crown Estates and the Duchies.

      • Casey20 says:

        Tina: Thank you. How do you pay those taxes? Is it a direct tax?

      • Tina says:

        It comes from the police budget, which is funded out of general taxation.

  32. Vanessa says:

    I think that a lot of the royals reporters are just trying to make money when the Fab Four storyline was being heavily pushed by the Kensington palace because it created good positive headline their were all these stories about how Meghan and Kate get along great . The royal reporters couldn’t directly go after Meghan they had to wait intill her reputation took a turn for worst . The royal reporters think that the royals need them they are the gatekeeper to all things royal that they can control them Choose what ever narrative they decide to put on them . What they don’t realize that it’s 2019 and social media is a different game and the royals don’t need they as much as they did in the 1980s to getting their truth out anymore the royal reporters are becoming more and more less useful to royal family.

    • Casey20 says:

      Correction: they had to wait for KP, and I mean the A-hole William, to get caught with an English Rose and throw Meghan under the bus!

  33. Mego says:

    Well at least the oneupmanship game is better than the “let’s leak lies and smears about our new sister in law to deflect our inadequacies” game. Cuz that kind of backfired didn’t it William? 🙄

  34. maude says:

    I think it’s time for Kate to ask for “overtime” — Daily Fail has photos of her attending the BP Garden Party. Tough work.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Loved her in the pink McQueen coat dress but hated the shoes. Maybe pink shoes would have showed too much dirt. I would wear navy pumps (courts) with the pink Alexander McQueen coat dress.

  35. PrincessK says:

    Harry and Meghan can just sit at home and will still outshine the bland Cambridges.

  36. kerwood says:

    If Megan’s mere existence has been enough to get Waity and Normal Bill off their asses and start giving value for money, she should be made a Dame of the British Empire.

  37. blunt talker says:

    These old royal reporters see the writing on the wall as far as their importance in a media driven society. They can’t walk and chew gum at the same time is their problem. They better get with the times because their way of communicating is outdated and stupid. The young people of the world engage with social media to get their messages out. They don’t give a damn about some 100 year old royal reporter trying to dictate the message about the royal family. Young people get their info from many places but many through the internet. It is the internet stupid.

  38. Mash says:

    the treatment of meghan really makes me hate the royal family sans harry….like

    but how can i ever expect more when they contributed to the tabloid culture that assisted in Diana’s death….

  39. Valeria says:

    CAMFED won the coveted award