Robert Mueller speaks, basically says that Donald Trump did a lot of crimes

Special Counsel Robert Mueller arrives at a press conference at Department...

The news came out yesterday morning: Robert Mueller was finally going to speak on-camera. Political peeps were in a tizzy. What would he say? Would he stand up there and read all of the heavily redacted parts from his report? Would he call Donald Trump an orange fascist turd? Would he finally reveal his thoughts on Game of Thrones’ final season? Would he laugh and scream “GOTCHA! NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE US”? As it turns out, Ol’ Bobby just came out to reiterate the thing that everybody already knew: that Donald Trump is not an innocent man, but that Mueller felt like DOJ guidelines precluded him from indicting a sitting president. Here’s the video:

These were the quotes people clung to:

In his first public remarks on the case since his investigation concluded, Mueller said that if his office “had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so,” and noted that the Constitution “requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing.”

But if Mueller was trying to suggest that Democrats could initiate impeachment proceedings, he also seemed to dash any hopes they might have had that he would be their star witness, ready and willing to detail new and unflattering information his office had uncovered about Trump.

The special counsel — who noted he was closing up shop and formally resigning from the Justice Department — said that he hoped the news conference would be his last public comments and that if he were compelled to testify before Congress, he would not speak beyond what he wrote in his 448-page report.

[From WaPo]

Any sane person who read even passing coverage of the Mueller Report understood this already – Mueller and his team had a mountain of evidence against Donald Trump and if Trump had just been a bankrupt real estate guy with shady Russian backers, Mueller would have indicted the crap out of him. But because America is a snake eating its own tail, barfing up its tail and then eating the barf, that means Mueller can’t charge Trump because Trump is a sitting president. Trump is a sitting president because he did a sh-tload of crimes to become president, crimes he cannot be charged with because he’s president. And the snake barfs up his tail and eats the barf.

Obviously, there were a million “BREAKING NEWS” headlines for this super-obvious announcement, but I’m just left feeling so… blah. I hate this. I hate everything about this. Bob Mueller played it too safe. He will probably never have to answer questions like “why didn’t you indict Don Jr?” Or “why wasn’t Ivanka deposed?” Or “wasn’t that whole ‘you can’t indict a sitting president’ just more of a loose DOJ guideline and not really a codified federal law?” Some Democrats in Congress are screaming “IMPEACH” and Nancy Pelosi is like “meh” and Trump is like “bring on the impeachment” because he thinks his base of triggered white snowflakes will ride to his defense if Democrats begin impeachment proceedings.

I said weeks ago that I was disappointed in Mueller’s childlike faith in “the system.” Mueller behaved as if he believed that any day now, Mitch McConnell will come to Jesus and realize that he’s bending over backwards for an ignorant fascist. No one in the GOP is coming to Jesus. They will not save us. And Mueller abdicated responsibility by punting to Congress and expecting Congress to impeach.

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  1. Alissa says:

    I really don’t understand why ia sitting president can’t be charged with crimes, it seems to me that since they worked for the citizens of America they should be subject to the same laws, if not more strengthen laws, than the citizens of America. Mueller also seems to be a bit of a Rorshach test. I realize he can’t make certain statements because of legalities and ethics, but it just makes it easier and easier for people to see and hear what they want to see and hear.

    • Becks1 says:

      I think its interesting because it is something that has never been tested. Some people (like my father) think that Mueller should have charged Trump and let the courts decide. But some think that because the Constitution has a specific provision for prosecuting the president, it removes the president from the normal justice procedures.

      I cant imagine the founding fathers intended impeachment to be a way for a president to get away with whatever crimes he wanted.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        The thing is the courts are currently stacked with hardcore Republican judges who would have protected their dear leader at any costs – I Love Beer Bret only got his SC seat to protect Trump should it ever get to that.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Digi – right! so had the fight gone to the courts, I think the end result would have been the same – “take it to congress.” So I don’t know what the right thing to do here was.

      • Alissa says:

        I think even if the end result would have been the same, at least it would have shown people that Mueller did think that he committed a crime and should be charged. that way they wouldn’t have the no collusion, no obstruction nonsense but they keep bleating about.

      • MoronicaBobonica says:

        If the founding fathers could have seen into the future and to what kind of men would lead this country they probably would have just headed their asses back to England and said fuck it all.

      • Harryg says:

        The founding fathers probably couldn’t imagine someone like this could be elected, someone openly an unethical monster.

      • A says:

        The founding fathers also created a system that purposefully disenfranchised a significant percentage of the population, and intended for it to stay that way. I don’t imagine them to be a group with a great deal of foresight, at least not the sort that America needs today. A lot of problems that the country is dealing with were codified by the systems they put in place and the beliefs that they held.

    • meg t says:

      i believe the reasoning is so political opponents can’t bring criminal charges against a president to distract him/her from fulfilling their agenda while in office. or maybe to protect the president if they have to do some questionable military action thats for the safety of the country but is in a legal gray area.

    • Veronica S. says:

      Ideally, it’s so political opponents couldn’t drum up charges (false or otherwise) to impede on the executive function of the office and the government’s running. I just don’t think anybody ever expected our system would fail so spectacularly on so many levels (voting rights, Congressional checks, court stacking) to allow somebody that corrupt into office.

    • JRenee says:

      Exactly ^^^. It’s disgraceful as hell. An open black eye on democracy

  2. Mira says:

    When will this orange nightmare end?

    • B n A fan says:

      The orange clown nightmare WILL end when Nancy stop being scared and start impeachment. I know he will never be convicted by the Senate but at the end Don the Con is no Bill Clinton, (AND HE WILL HAVE TO CARRY THE SHAME OF BEING IMPEACHED FOREVER). Bill was getting a blow job from a Whitehouse intern. That was a matter between him and Hillary. Also, Bill was a popular president. This Con man is despised by half the country and he’s messing with our constitution for his own gains.

      IMO, if impeachment is started more people will understand after the hearing and facts starts to be shown daily what he has done to steal the presidency with the help of Putin.

      • Harryg says:

        I agree. Some people, not wanting to see what’s really going on, would be forced to. And some of them would finally change their opinion. This man is mentally ill.

      • Lorelei says:

        I don’t think his insane supporters would even care what was revealed during an impeachment. They’ve shown they will stand by him no matter what vile things he does. They don’t care. It’s terrifying, because he’s already started laying the groundwork for not leaving when his term is over.

      • Lorelei says:

        I think this would be true if he was a normal person, but he is so clearly not. I don’t think he would feel shame because I don’t think he’s capable of feeling shame. Look how quickly people forgot about those huge NYT exposes regarding his finances/bankruptcies— he was PROUD and his supporters believed he was just being a great businessman. And then the entire country moved on in like a day. Not to mention the Access Hollywood debacle. If he wasn’t ashamed of that, he won’t be ashamed of anything. I don’t know what the answer is but I don’t think we should pin all of our hopes on impeachment because he will find a way to spin it in his favor and convince the GOP that he’s a victim of the “angry Dems.”

      • Yami says:

        Even if the House impeaches, the Senate won’t. McConnell will do everything he can to maintain the Repubs grip on power. It’ll be like Clinton’s impeachment, it won’t actually result in the orange menace being removed from office.

    • Anne Call says:

      2020, if everyone and I mean everyone gets off their a*ses and VOTE. Then state of N.Y. can drag him to court for his many crimes done while he was running his grifter company.

  3. Nicegirl says:

    Will Congress catch the ball & run with it?

  4. Megan says:

    I can’t believe the childlike faith Democrats in the House had in expecting Bill Barr to be a decent human being and release the unredacted report and underlying evidence. The true extent of the crimes committed won’t be known until a Democrat is back in the White House.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      The only way to get Chump out of office is to vote his orange ass out in November 2019. The Senate will not convict and Chump (unlike Nixon) will not resign so impeachment is a waste of time IMHO because impeachment will only further rally the Chump base.

      I think Ms Nancy sees it as I see it. I have much faith in Ms. Nancy. However, I want every hearing that can possibly be convened to be held so I can get all the details of what really went down live on C-SPAN for my viewing pleasure.

      • Jaded says:

        Totally agree. Starting impeachment proceedings at this point in time will only create more divisiveness within the Democratic party at a time when they really must come together and vote the orange sh*tstain out. Pelosi is a seasoned politician and she’s attempting, successfully, to maintain and build on a Democratic majority to enact liberal policies. Launching an impeachment inquiry not supported by the public is probably seen by her and many as a risky maneuver that might splinter the Democratic majority.

      • Megan says:

        This is how crazy the U.S. has become … the president was criminally investigated, not exonerated, and the risk of holding him accountable may be too great. How the hell did we get here? I need to move to purple state and start knocking on doors immediately.

    • Giddy says:

      Bill Barr is bought and paid for; another person whose previously good reputation is now ruined by associating with Trump. Trump finally got his “Roy Cohn”.

      • Acires says:

        William Barr backed the pardons for those involved in the Iran-Conta scandal. He has shown his true character years ago.

      • anon says:

        Barr never had a good reputation, he has always been a fixer for GOP’s fuckeries, nothing more.

    • Malificent says:

      Makes me wonder what kind of kompromat they have on Barr.

      • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

        Barr’s FATHER gave 20 yr old dropout JEFFREY EPSTEIN a job teaching at his private school. Epstein, who had the parties with Trump and all the underaged girls, who Acosta gave a sweetheart plea deal (and then ended up in Dump’s cabinet), and the Dump gives Barr’s son and DIL jobs in HIS legal team admin. just after taking his position. All ties up to grow the swamp.

      • NightOwl says:

        It’s interesting to me that we often assume that these people are committing crimes because they are being bribed or blackmailed. I’d wager a guess to say that there are some people who behave in this way, because they are malevolent, evil, greedy, and fundamentally flawed. Ascribing their actions to kompromat, pee-pee tapes, and the like assumes these people feel shame and remorse. At this point, I think some people are just evil and villainous and that their actions cannot be humanized or rationalized by normal (non-villainous) people.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      There are pieces of underlying evidence that are being withheld by the Administration that are going through the court system. I don’t think we should assume they had a naive faith in Barr, rather, they have faith in the courts which has largely been rewarded. Among other things, they are waiting to get McGahn’s testimony, which is going to contain serious evidence of obstruction. They are also going to get his financial documents, which is going to be HUGE.

      • Megan says:

        I do not have faith in the Supreme Court, which is where all of these cases will eventually end up. Only four justices have to vote yes to hear a case, which means whatever little hope we had in Roberts letting the rulings of lower courts stand is out the window.

  5. Rapunzel says:

    Meanwhile, Trump is doing all he can to assure that the Dems look like the villains so when the Dems take 2020 (Knock wood), he can refuse to leave on the grounds of “a coup” and “deep state” shenanigans. And Mitch McTurtleface will help him pack SCOTUS to win legally. This psycho knows the minute he’s not president his house of cards collapses, and will not go quietly.

    • Harryg says:

      It really is a house of cards, like his whole life has always been. How amazing it hasn’t completely collapsed already.

  6. Digital Unicorn says:

    Punting to congress to impeach was the only thing he could do, the DOJ won’t/wouldn’t let him impeach Chump – he clearly found evidence on obstruction of justice and his hands were tied to do anything from a legal POV. The process it their to take his evidence and run with it but given that Barr is refusing to allow congress to actually see the underlying evidence the evidence of obstruction goes to the WHOLE party and administration.

    I have faith in Pelosi, she’s not a newbie to Capitol Hill – she’s letting him all hang themselves, which they are all doing with glee.

    • Erinn says:

      And I’m not going to crap on Mueller for following things to the letter. I’d rather see someone do what he’s done than to break the law/code to make things work – because you KNOW the thugs would be all over him if he hadn’t done his job to the letter. They’re already all over him.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I totally agree, Digital Unicorn and Erinn.

      • Jaded says:

        Totally agree. Mueller had to follow the process to a tee otherwise Chump and his GOP sycophants would take him down. Pelosi is giving Chump enough rope to hang himself, she’s good at the long game.

    • Christin says:

      Also, he reported to Fred Flinstone’s brother Bill B (as we were reminded in that March press conference). He was an employee reporting to others higher in the chain, not a one-person problem solver.

      Someone needs to ask if the investigation was ended early or impeded in any way before the report was issued. Interesting that we were told it would be at least summer before wrap up, then enter bad Flintstone and it’s suddenly in report form within six to eight weeks.

  7. AB says:

    I think Mueller intentionally punted because he is a partisan conservative Republican.

    • Jerusha says:

      I think Mueller is a very upright ethical man who was walking a tightrope. He was not an independent investigator like partisan hack Ken Starr, but an employee of the DOJ, bound by their rules. Hell, yes, I wish he’d approached the lectern screaming, “He’s guilty as sin! Round them all up!” But I understand why he didn’t. I think he had anger simmering under the surface at the fact that the next step would be for Congress to do something, but he’s aware that half of Congress is currently ruled by traitorous shitheads. It’s up to us, the people, to stop electing vermin like McConnell, Graham, and their ilk and stop expecting Captain America to save us.

      • Lesanne says:

        This is the truth of the matter. In every government job at this level there are multiple internal controls. Or at least there were before the current administration. Mueller would be subject to and abiding by them. Now….My last ethical friend in the government is leaving in August. They had hoped to endure the next two years but have decided to retreat to their private paradise. In their efforts to recruit talent the agencies went for form over content. When everyone is all show the stability of our institutions is gone.

      • Jellybean says:

        Agreed! Mueller did what was right. If elected officials do not do the same then it is up to the people to (democratically) kick them out.

      • Jaded says:

        Exactly.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      That is totally not supported by facts.

      If Mueller was a partisan hack working for the GOP’s benefit, he would not have come out yesterday and said “If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.”

      No one working to help Trump or the GOP would have made such an incriminating statement.

    • anon says:

      He’s not a partisan

    • Yes Doubtful says:

      I agree. Ultimately, he is a republican and he will have their back over the good of the country.

  8. Darla says:

    These times, up against this authoritarian despot, called for a big man. A big moment. A go big or go home.

    Robert Mueller went home.

    Next.

    • Darla says:

      We are just finding out that the United States Navy, the Naval forces of the United States of America! cowed to the despot and covered up the name of a war hero, so as not to excite his wrath. On Memorial Day!

      There is no man who will stand up to this reality tv show host. They cower and shake in fear before him.

      Bring on the women.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Darla OMG I saw that this morning and I could not believe it, except that the story I was reading was from WSJ, so I figured it was probably accurate.

        They covered up McCain’s name. I don’t ever want anyone to tell me again that Republicans support the troops.

      • Lightpurple says:

        And those on another ship were ordered to wear arm patches with a Trump campaign slogan on them.

      • Jerusha says:

        The sailors also had to remove their caps which had the name of the ship on them. I hope they remember that when voting rolls around next year and that they vote against every Republican running.

      • Megan says:

        No one was ordered to wear a Trump patch. The service members did that all on their own, which somehow makes it so much worse.

      • Giddy says:

        I am so angry that McCain’s name was covered up. A true war hero blanked out so that bone spurs Cartman wouldn’t get upset. He is the most petty of men.

      • Mel M says:

        I saw this late last night and my husband and I couldn’t even talk about it because we would get infuriated. Can he be a bigger freaking baby??? Seriously, how fragile is he that he went to all that trouble because he can’t see the name of a dead man that did more for his country and had more honor in his damn pinky finger then this turd will ever have. The fact that he has turned so many people against a literal POW and life long congressman but thinks a murderous dictator is a good guy and no one bates a damn eye makes me sick to my stomach. How and why do people just stand by and let him throw tantrum after tantrum and act like it’s the norm? It’s so scary the behaviors he has turned into acceptable to so many people in just two years. It feels more and more like we are living in a dystopia. I get so exasperated and feel like I’m just shouting into the wind and no one is listening. Like one by one everyone is being taken over and because pod people.

      • Megan says:

        Trump is a bottomless pit when it comes to being petty.

      • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

        Those service people who wore the Dump patches are in violation of The Hatch Act, which prohibits services from taking a side politically. Wonder who’s going to enforce that?

    • Tiffany :) says:

      Mueller didn’t go home. He did his job incredibly well.

      In this football game, it wasn’t his ball to run over the finish line. That ‘s congress’s role. He gathered the evidence and documented criminality, as was his job. It is up to congress to take that evidence and do something with it. It was never an option for him to charge the president. Any solutions need to be rooted in reality, and not wishful thinking.

  9. Becks1 says:

    First, I loved that he said he would give a statement at 11 am, and at 11 on the dot he walked out and started talking. No delay, no waiting around – he said 11 and he meant it.

    Second – I was super annoyed at the whole “don’t call me to testify” thing, but I think he meant 1) he would not be used as a political prop, and also 2) he put what he knows in the report. Someone on MSNBC yesterday said that Mueller’s point was more, “don’t ask me what Don McGahn said that Trump told him. Ask Don McGahn.” (which of course Congress is trying to do…..) I think he’s not going to testify to anything interesting the investigation turned up because its all probably “somewhere.” Meaning, if he found evidence that Ivanka and Jared were being super shady in NYC, he probably didn’t just go “meh, that’s not important,” he probably sent it to NY for further investigation/prosecution, and he’s not going to testify about that.

    there are something like 14 indictments still under seal, so I think that will be interesting when/if we ever find out what those are.

    Finally, I think the two big takeaways from his speech were that Trump did commit a crime, but its the role of Congress to prosecute, and that the Russian government DID interfere in our election. He must feel like he is screaming into the void about that. Rs are okay with it because it helped their guy. But maybe in 2020 the Russians decide they want to help Biden or Booker or whoever. Rs still okay with it? Methinks not.

    I don’t know. I think we were all expecting Mueller to save us, and he didn’t, so people are super salty. I also think Mueller has a lot of faith in the system, but right now the system is beyond broken, so that faith is misplaced.

    David Frum (senior editor of the Atlantic) was on MSNBC last night and he was like, “history will judge an impeachment attempt by how it turns out. If he is impeached and then removed, it will be seen by history as a great triumph of the constitution. But if it fails, Pelosi et al will be a laughing stock.” So its kind of like the line from Usual Suspects (ugh I know problematic now but still) – when Verbal says “how do you shoot the devil in the back? what if you miss?” this is a lot like that IMO. We cant miss.

    • Alissa says:

      this is an excellent comment.

    • Lightpurple says:

      He did his job and there were limits placed on the scope. He said that. He concluded with a statement that we need to be very afraid. And it is now the responsibility of Congress to act.

      I have enjoyed watching the MAGAts, including Trump himself, repeatedly contradict themselves over this in the last 20 hours or so.

    • Megan says:

      Mueller did exactly what he was hired to do and what the law allows. I wish he would continue to speak out about Russian interference in the election because there needs to be much greater pressure on Congress to protect out elections.

      As for Frum, he is right wing hardliner who worked for W. Of course he wants to discourage Democrats from opening an impeachment investigation.

      • Becks1 says:

        Nah, I think his point was valid. If Dems try to impeach and lose, it will be a body blow to the party and could mean the loss of the House in 2020 (remember what happened to the Rs when they were trying to impeach Clinton, and the Dems swept back into power in the House? of course they still impeached anyway in a lame duck session, which is still mind boggling to me, but anyway….) I am not sure we could even impeach him at this point. Everyone keeps talking about the Senate; I’m not sure the House would impeach and that it would even get to the Senate.

      • Megan says:

        Democrats lost control of the House in 1994 elections and did not regain power until 2006. I am much more concerned about Democrats prospects in 2020 if they don’t impeach. They already look so weak as Trump continues to transition from an elected leader to a strong man.

      • Nic919 says:

        Frum might have been a right wing hard liner in normal world, but he is a never trumper, so his comments about this aren’t being said with a need to protect Dump. He is close to bushies and keep in mind how much Barbara Bush hated Dump and co. for how he treated Jeb.

        That said, I think getting things televised will make the public change their mind, at least the non die hard cultists. If the GOP senators decide to protect their hero, many of them will pay the price for it if all the evidence showing how corrupt Dump is ends up on tv every day. Susan Collins already is on shaky ground.

        I think there must be impeachment hearings. Non stop tv every day. He won’t be able to control the narrative. And democrats need to show they will do something on principle and not cower in fear of maybe losing an election. The GOP support for Nixon was still fairly high when impeachment hearings started but dropped after endless days of evidence.

      • Lorelei says:

        No, Mueller could (and should) have been much clearer and more forceful. Obviously he can’t indict, but he absolutely could have said “We found that the President committed crimes and if he was not the sitting POTUS, he would have already been charged.” He could have flat-out said that the contents of his report were misrepresented by Barr. The average American will not be able to parse his extremely precise legal-speak.

        Clearly he thinks everything will be fine if everyone reads the report. Except no one has read the full report because it was redacted so heavily! And the reality is that most Americans aren’t going to read a 400 page report, they just aren’t. He needed to say something yesterday that 45 and his supporters could not spin, a clear statement of guilt. But no, he was vague and spoke in legalese and within 9 minutes Trump tweeted that he was vindicated. Mueller could have avoided that but deliberately chose not to in order to protect his own reputation over the good of the country.

        Robert Mueller is still living in a world where people are decent and norms and institutions are respected, and he acted accordingly. However that is NOT the world we live in anymore, which he knows, and more decisive action was needed from him. But he shirked his duty to the country.

        I’m also so tired of him claiming he “doesn’t want to be political.” Well, sorry, but this entire situation IS political, like it or not. All we wanted was for him to get up there and tell the truth — no one was expecting him to take sides — but he couldn’t even do that. Then he resigned and bounced without even taking questions.

        By now he MUST know that leaving all of the responsibility up to Congress is a joke. Yesterday was a horrific day and I fear it’s only going to get worse from here. We are not going to have a free and fair election in 2020 because we ALREADY know there’s interference, and even if we do win, Trump is not going to concede and go peacefully. We’re screwed.

      • B n A fan says:

        @Lorelei, it’s congresses job to follow up on Mueller’s report, that’s their job. Also, he was clear enough, the Congress people should do their job and read the report. Nancy is dragging her feet because she believes that if she starts impeachment his robotic voters will turn out in droves next year and the Dems will lose the presidency. I’m saying, BS starts the impeachment and let the country see all the evidence and make up their mind when they see and hear all the illegal things he’s been doing and vote in November, 2020.

        If Nancy don’t stop him now someone else will come along after him and be even more crooked than he has been, if we can imagine, and they would not be able to stop that person.

  10. Who ARE these people? says:

    Very good, if depressing, summary. It’s almost as if 2 years of faith in Mueller prevented the kind of mass action that could have done something. Not to discredit the 2018 election but people turned out for a reason.

  11. Chef Grace says:

    The democrats will not do a thing, not with the 2020 election approaching. Can’t afford to upset their applecart. Thing is the 45 herd of followers are going to put him and more repubs in charge. This is the cesspool we live in now.
    Corrupt doesn’t even begin to cover it.

  12. anniefannie says:

    It bugs me that the Democrats are so vocal about holding their seats, and keeping the majority as opposed to doing their duty. I mean I get they’re trying to calculate outcome but am I naive to expect the narrative should about the illegality of the Pres actions and the message that sends if we let him get away with it?!?
    If they don’t impeach I don’t think this decision will age well…

    • Megan says:

      I agree. Accountability is essential to democracy. Dems need to do what is right.

  13. Lightpurple says:

    Major Twitter meltdown happening right now.

  14. Sue Denim says:

    well at least we learned the “president” wasn’t not not guilty or was it that he was not not guilty…?? ugh another guard rail has failed in this ongoing coup… and making the WH a safe haven for criminals, well…what could go wrong?

  15. Snowflake says:

    Thank you so much for posting this. I sent it to my trumpster brother. Idk if it will do any good but at least i tried. Thank you Robert. I don’t blame him for wanting to retire after this.

    • Christin says:

      I can’t blame him, either. He turns 75 this summer. There was a job to be done, with limited scope and a boss to either help or hinder the process.

      He is clearly telling us that he did his job, and now it’s time for others to decide what to do with it. His closing remarks were direct and chilling, too.

      • Tourmaline says:

        Agree.

        He did what he could do. And yes his remarks were chilling for those who wanted to listen.

        The thing is it will fall on the non-hearing ears of the Republicans in Congress, with the exception of Justin
        Amash.

        I blame the Republican Party for all of this. They could stop this. They will not. They have decided that casting their lot totally with DJT is a winning strategy. They are thrilled with him – they are getting so many things they have always wanted.

        He will never be removed via impeachment with the Republican Party standing behind him. Neither will any of his impeachable minions like Barr.

  16. Aang says:

    Democrats should never have to worry about keeping the house. Capping the number of members at 435 has fucked the Democrats out of what would now be a permanent majority. Add that to the fact that the Senate is so unrepresentative, and the EC gives way more power to rural voters, we are permanently screwed. We need a constitutional overhaul that distributes power to where people actually live. Or a revolution. Or break up into two countries. What we have now will only hold as long as cheap consumer goods are available to placate the lower classes.

  17. Louisa says:

    The only thing I am annoyed at Mueller for is that he did not come out and say all this weeks ago when it became clear that Barr was never going release the real findings of the report and in fact told the American people the exact opposite. We’ve had weeks of the media running with Barr’s version and that is what most people now think is fact.

    • Giddy says:

      But it was incredible that yesterday Fox reported that Barr had misrepresented the findings in the Mueller report, and that it was clear that if Trump wasn’t President he would have been indicted. I bet Trump blew a gasket when he saw that.

      • Original T.C. says:

        “that it was clear that if Trump wasn’t President he would have been indicted.”

        Hate to say it but this is why Fox is popular and good at brain washing. The MSM and Dems will spend an entire pharagraph filled with stipulations to get to the point. By that time, the average poorly educated person has either lost interest or is confused. Fox gets right to the point using the fewest words possible and brakes it down to a jr high school education level.?

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I couldn’t believe Bret Baier said, ““This was not, as the president says time and time again, ‘no collusion, no obstruction.”

        He’s such a team player, I can’t believe Baier acknowledged the truth and contradicted the president!

    • Jerusha says:

      The media I read/listen to has consistently pointed out that the report said “not exonerated.”

  18. Harryg says:

    I want the Trumps out, I want all of them gone.
    An interesting book, Golden Handcuffs, by Nina Burleigh. It tries to explain why all Trump women are like Stepford Wives. Delightfully gossipy and snarky, but well written.

  19. Meg says:

    I hoped this investigation meant something would come of this bad behavior law breaking and scary time but nope, nothing matters apparently. Really tough to not empty my accounts and run away to some place tropical saying F it

  20. adastraperaspera says:

    Mueller is basically saying, “release the impeachment hounds.” I’m happy his statement made clear that Barr lied, which opens the door to impeach Barr also. I have faith in our political process and the rule of law. We’re only seeing the tip of the iceberg here–mainly because we have a news media that won’t do real investigative reporting, but instead just chases after Trump’s daily tweets.

  21. FluffyPrincess says:

    I think we are screwed and that that troglodyte will get a second term–and Russia will be laughing at how easy it was to topple our country with an greed-soaked ignoramus and a Congress who was easily swayed by a few perks and cash.

    Democrats will mess this up again with their timidity and trying to be the nice guy. For once, we need a ball buster who is not afraid to go out there and say that turd in the white house is a criminal and a traitor, but it will never happen. Never. Because Fox News might say something mean about them– Oh Noes!!

  22. Jb says:

    I’m hoping (PRAYING PLEASE GOD) that with a New Democrat President in 2020, our country will realize giving absolute power to one man and not being able to govern his actions or prosecute his misdeeds was/is a bad idea and moves the needle towards actual changes to some laws. I’m just really hoping the tide will change and we heal as a country from what this orange turd has done to our country and learn from our mistakes. VOTE VOTE VOTE is the only way we’ll be able to change things

  23. Sean says:

    From what I’ve been reading on a few different legal Twitter accounts, Pelosi may be waiting to see what the counterintelligence probes determine. Truth is Trump’s obstruction is just a small part of this. It involves multiple countries. Not just Russia.

    Also Mueller glossed over the counterintelligence investigations in his report because he wasn’t allowed to go into detail about them.

  24. boredblond says:

    I’m tiring of Nancy’s stalling..no, the Senate will not go along..but the house has passed a lot of legislation, including gun control and drug price control measures that trump-level-despicable mcConnell will not allow to be read..so why did they bother even writing them? Dems need to stop trying to not offend the magats and start thinking about their own base who turned out last year as an anti trump movement, not because of wages or healthcare. They will be handing repubs their slogan..”if he’d done anything wrong they would’ve impeached him” if they don’t get moving.

  25. Tiffany :) says:

    They just released emails that show the census citizenship questions were inserted with the documented intention to benefit republicans and “non-Hispanic whites”.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/census-citizenship-question-hofeller.html

  26. Aenflex says:

    He was a special counsel, not independent counsel. It was always going to be up to congress and following them, the DAG and AG.

    • Tourmaline says:

      Yes good point.

      Independent Counsel was created by an act of Congress in 1977, post-Watergate. Ken Starr was one. In 1999 (post-Clinton impeachment/Starr Report) the act was up for renewal but it was not renewed.

      Special Counsel is governed by different law and is much more beholden to the Attorney General than the Independent Counsel was.

  27. Casey20 says:

    Muller knows what Pelosi knows, the Republican must see the light of day on this issue, otherwise our entire system will FAIL! Republicans must put country before their own political ambitions and Ole Bone Spurs. The biggest problem is that the majority of Trump Supporters watch Fox News and Fox News is protecting the PoS for ratings and at this point it’s livelihood. Trump will continue being the clown he is but until Republicans leadership or enough of the rank and file can stand up for the Constitution…cue the Trade Wars, USS McCain, Children dying at the border, dog and pony show with Kim/Putin and anything else the Orange Clown needs for his personal entertainment. I can’t wait for next November…every single Republican, Fed, state and local….Is a NO!!!