Rose Hanbury & her husband also attended the Trump state dinner, interesting!

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It’s not surprising that Rose Hanbury, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley, would attend last night’s state dinner/banquet for Donald Trump. Her husband David, the Marquess of Cholmondeley is a regular guest of the Queen at these kinds of formal state events, and of course he brings his wife. He’s the Lord Great Chamberlain and I believe that means he has “constitutional duties” within these kinds of events. So, it wasn’t surprising. And yet it was interesting to see Rose walk in towards the end of the procession into the banquet hall. Rose wore white, which was the color of the evening – the Duchess of Cambridge, the Queen, the Duchess of Cornwall and Melania Trump also wore white.

There were internet rumors that Rose was seated somewhere close to Kate, but I can’t verify that and I don’t see why she would be. What I find fascinating though is… how few media outlets are even talking about it. Prince William’s legal threats came down like a hammer and now The Sun, the Daily Mail, all of the tabloids, they’re all scared to even utter the name Rose Hanbury. Hello was one of the few outlets to mention it, and they did not even reference why Rose’s presence could be shady.

A total of 170 people attended Buckingham Palace’s glittering State Banquet on Monday night in honour of US President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump, and among the many royal and known faces was the Duchess of Cambridge’s Norforlk neighbour, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley.

Rose’s attendance is no surprise as the 35-year-old is the wife of David Cholmondeley, the 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley and Lord Great Chamberlain and they are regular guests at State Banquets. In his ceremonial role he has charge over the Palace of Westminster and he also has a major part to play in grand royal events, such as coronations, having the right to dress the monarch on coronation day and to serve the monarch water before and after the coronation banquet, and also being involved in investing the monarch with the insignia of rule.

On the night, the Marchioness of Cholmondely was sat between Jeremy Fleming and Professor Ralph Speth while her husband sat next to the Duchess of Gloucester.

A total of sixteen members of the royal family attended the dinner – the Queen, the Prince of Wales, the Duchess of Cornwall, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, the Duke of York, the Earl and Countess of Wessex, the Princess Royal, Vice Admiral Sir Tim Laurence, the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, the Duke of Kent, Prince and Princess Michael of Kent and Princess Alexandra.

[From Hello]

Hello is just going to sit there and mention the royals attending the event and they expect their readers to put it together. Such palace intrigue! I wonder if Kate shot eye-daggers at Rose while William swallowed hard and stared at his plate. I wonder if Rose was especially vivacious last night, throwing back her wine and laughing so loudly so everyone in the banquet hall could hear her. I wonder if Donald Trump and his staff were briefed on the Rose situation. So many questions. But honestly, this is why I believe that Rose leaked the “rural rival” story – she was mad because Kate was trying to phase her out, and Rose was like “no honey, that’s not how this works.” And it’s not how it works – Rose and David are clearly still in the royal fold.

Update: We just got a tip that the woman walking into the banquet with Rose is Sarah Vine, gossip columnist for the Daily Mail. Wow. That’s a big power move by Rose, huh?

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  1. JByrdKU says:

    I kind of think that’s how it SHOULD work. Like her or not, if what we think happened actually happened, she should at least have the right to freeze the woman out. Yikes.

    • Tilly says:

      Except that’s unfortunately ‘not how it’s done’ in those circles.
      The Lord Great Chamberlain is a lifetime position iirc, and to cast his wife out of the main social circle of the Norfolk set (and by extension, him) indefinitely just isn’t done.
      Especially when you take into account the snobbery surrounding these family legacies and ‘breeding’; Rose’s family and the Marquess have been blue bloods for generations upon generations, and suddenly the middle class girl who clung on for dear life and got the ring no-one else wanted thinks she can cast out linchpins of the society set because she’ll be consort one day?

      I’m not saying it’s right, but this is the life Kate married into. Affairs and mistresses are an unspoken aspect of this life.

      • xo says:

        If that’s the case, William’s indiscretion is kind of unforgivable, no? “One” should know better.

    • Yup, Me says:

      Rose is also a former model, though, and the last model to walk is the star of the show. So even though neither of these bland Oatmeal Betties are all that attractive or interesting, I like the idea that Rose decided to hang back (maybe freshen up her look a bit) and then walk in a little late so that she makes more of an entrance and was clearly seen and noted.

    • Sally says:

      That Rose has the face of guilt. She and William know what they did. In my opinion, she should be banned from all royal affairs. Even though Kate knows what happened!! This is nothing but them being typical royal’s, she married into this. BUT I don’t think rubbing Kate’s nose, right into the mess is cool. I would not , no matter who I married, I do not want it flaunted right in front of me. NO WAY!!

  2. Darla says:

    I’m sorry, I said this last time and got in trouble, but his wife is much better looking. Oh right, it’s not all about looks, beauty is on the inside.

    Right. And if she’s f’ing someone’s husband publicly enough to humiliate the woman, what does that say about her inside? So I will stick with outward appearances and…his wife is much better looking.

    • tempest prognosticator says:

      Rose sounds like piece of work. Seriously… is William that irresistible? Was she bored? Was it some kind of power trip to have sex with a future king?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        That is the question we are all asking because Bill Cambridge does not seem to me to be Rose type based on her previous boyfriends.

      • Becks1 says:

        It’s why I sort of go more with the theory that Rose wasn’t the one having the affair, but she knew about it, helped to facilitate it? something like that – or she knew about it and gossiped with the wrong person, so it started to leak out, and Kate got mad and THAT was when she tried to phase out Rose. Not for the affair, but for spreading word of the affair.

      • Seraphina says:

        @Becks1, I agree with you. I think she betrayed Kate with being a leak. That is why she was trying to faze her out. Betrayal of trust.

    • Maria says:

      Eh. Kate got with William when he was with someone else. Nobody was married with children then, of course, but she can’t be that surprised.

      • Amy Tennant says:

        Don’t kill me for saying this, but… first year of university romantic peccadilloes shouldn’t necessarily be seen as setting the standard for your whole life’s behavior. I mean, maybe so in some cases? But goodness, I hope people don’t judge me by how I acted when I was 18 or 19. Those were the dumbest years, am I right?

      • Maria says:

        I mean, the point of my statement is that William has always had this pattern. It has not changed, in the fifteen years since he graduated.
        Most people grow up and mature, emotionally. William never had to.

    • Vauvert says:

      I don’t like Kate as a person at all, and her feathery dress was a disaster, but Rose IMHO looks terrible here, from the center part slick on hairstyle that does her features no favours, to the dress that looks like a satin nightie with a peignoir tied around the waist for good measure. Also, if you have glam rocks, I would think a state dinner is where you wear them, no?

      I have no comment whatsoever on the potential affair or not, but my $.02 worth are that Rose would be an absolute idiot to cheat on her husband with that grumpy, sullen, balding Will. I know her husband is quite older but to me he looks distinguished and quintessential upper class British. I’d take him before Will any day of the week. Whether true or not, the story is damaging to the two women involved, as usual – one the unwanted wife, the other the tramp, being the main media takes. Which is sad because both have families, young children, and their private lives, messy or not, should belong to them.

      Off my soapbox to go laugh cry at the fashion disasters that are the Trump grifters: Little Whorehouse on the Prairie meets Dynasty, all done on a budget from the clearance rack, proof once again that grifting $800Mand traveling on the taxpayer dime still doesn’t buy class, elegance, beauty, etc.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I have always had a thing for David Cholmondeley but I am nearer his age than Rose. If she does not want him, I would l take him off her hands.

      • Darla says:

        Little Whorehouse on the Prairie meets Dynasty

        OMG this killed me I am laughing so hard.

      • Leena says:

        Model meets titled, rich 23 years older man and marries him. In the immortal words of Mrs Merton “what first attracted you to the millionaire………..!”

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Model: The lovely umm……………..Houghton Hall!

      • Kendra says:

        Generally I like these 30s style dresses but this wasn’t the right occasion and you are right about the hair.

      • PrincessK says:

        I like the dress Rose wore, that kate dress is awful.

        @BayTampaBay….can you please explain the attractive aspects of David Rocksavage Cholmondeley? Was he hot when he was younger. Rumour has it that his is a marriage of pure convenience.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @PrincessK, David Rocksavage Cholmondeley was fairly hot when he was younger. There is a picture of him in 30s on his Wikipedia page. I have always been attracted to the literary and arts type. Chumbawumba spent years working in and with the film industry in the USA & UK. He has written, directed, produced and/or financed many films.

        He has a great appreciation of art; The type of guy you could actually spend 3 or 4 hours with in A&V museum and who would know more about the paintings than you do. He has made a large effort to support contemporary art through many exhibitions at Houghton Hall. He has personally researched and oversaw many restorations of the contents of Houghton Hall and Houghton Hall itself. I have read many places he gives much back to the Norfolk Community in which he lives. I am not necessarily into “good jaw dropping” looks. I prefer an attractive man with exquisite taste. Also, he also comes across to me as very emotionally low maintenance as none of this Turnip Toffgate gossip seems to have effected him or Rose one iota. I respect this greatly.

        With regards to the Cholmondeley marriage, I only know what I read which are the same things you have read. Whatever the Cholmondeley marriage is, I am sure there was and is a full agreement between Rose & David. It is their business as they seem very united, dedicated, committed and, for lack of a better phrase, loving couple. They had twin boys (the heir and spare) then seven years later had a daughter. IMPO, this is not the behavior of a couple who have a marriage of pure convenience as you would have stopped after the birth of the twin boys.

        David seems to be very confident and comfortable in his own skin as does his wife Rose. Also, David does not seem to be a controlling clinger requiring constant attention like one member of BRF we talk about quite often. I cannot stand clingy men. I cannot stand controlling men.

        Last but not least: HE OWNS HOUGHTON HALL, one of my favorite country house in all of the UK.

        I never met the guy personally but I am drawing my conclusions from many things I have read about him since the release of the art-house indie movie “Other Voices, Other Rooms” in 1995. Yes, He and Houghton Hall have been on my radar for that long then his wife via her modeling & Tatler since they married. These Cholmondeley are much more interesting then most Hollywood celebrity couples to me.

      • PrincessK says:

        Thanks @BayTampaBay….I really enjoyed reading that and I appreciate your comments.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @PrincessK, I always follow and read your post. I hope you consider me a partner in gossip-crime.

        ETA: If you subscribe to USA Vanity Fair and have access to the Vanity Fair archive, their is an EXCELLENT profile (2010???) on David Rocksavage Cholmondeley, Houghton Hall and the Catherine The Great-Hermitage Museum “loaner” exhibition.

        The Catherine The Great-Hermitage Museum exhibition was one of the first month long public fundraising shindigs at Houghton Hall, Norfolk, England

      • PrincessK says:

        @BayTampaBay……definitely partners in gossip 😜.

        Thanks l shall check out the article.

      • Christine says:

        isn’t the dress Rose wore for the Trump dinner the same dress that Rose wore for the 2017 state dinner where she sat next to William?

  3. Busyann says:

    Ha! Ahh this makes a lot of sense. I saw a picture of Will and Kate in their car, Kate had turned towards Will and he looked particularly barfy. He’s been looking constipated for months now, but this was straight up, doubled over pain. And now I know why. Hahahaha. I also find it interesting that there are hardly any good photos of Will when there usually are at these events. Hmmmmm.

    • aaa says:

      Google pictures of William arriving in a limo for these type of events, it’s his normal demeanor and his constipated and sour demeanor often gets discussed.

      • carol lindsey says:

        What’s his problem anyway?! He could definitely be happier with his lot if he tried even a little :/

      • PrincessK says:

        People say that William always looks as though he is smelling something awful.

    • Megan says:

      Sorry, but whatever discomfort he may have about Rose pales in comparison to having to spend the evening with Trump and his gruesome crew.

      • Lorelei says:

        I agree with Megan. Will and Kate did both look irritated in the car on the way there, but I assume it’s because they were so annoyed at having to go meet all of these disgusting people. Not only did Trump make gross comments about Kate’s topless photos, he also said, after Diana died, that he would have been able to “nail” her BUT only if she took an STD test first. I don’t blame them for being pissed to have to give him and his vile family the royal welcome.

      • Christine says:

        ugh, trump is SUCH an embarrassment

    • M.A.F. says:

      I would look barfy too if I had to attend an event like this especially given the guest of honor.

  4. Lily says:

    What struck me is she was basically right at the end, stark difference from the Spanish Banquet where she was sat next to Prince Harry, she isn’t wearing her tiara or WEDDING RING……this just says something to me

    • Hepburntracy says:

      I’ve seen a picture from a previous state banquet where she wasn’t sat next to a royal. I honestly think it varies. From what I understand her husband has an official role but she doesn’t, therefore she doesn’t automatically feature prominently every time.

      And going by some of the pictures I’ve seen on her social media she seems to favor wearing her wedding ring on her right hand. If you zoom closely you can see it.

      • Mego says:

        There were no royals left over to sit next to – Trump brought such a large group with him.

    • Jen says:

      She wore a repeated gown and no tiara. I think she was purposely trying to stay out of the focus.

      • Megan says:

        I assume a tiara would be kept at an extremely secure storage facility. Would you bother to call to have it send around for Trump? He’s really not worth the effort.

      • Lizzie says:

        nothing says staying out of focus like a flesh colored form fitting silk/satin gown

      • A says:

        @Megan, it’s usually just kept in a regular old bank vault tbh. All you’d have to do is go up to London to retrieve it.

      • Christine says:

        aren’t tiaras reserved for married women only? Perhaps not wearing a ring AND not wearing a tiara were sending the same message

    • Lexa says:

      You can’t see it in the hallway shots, but I’m pretty sure Rose is wearing a very large jewelry piece to pin her hair back and that it it’s meant in effect to sub in for the tiara.

    • Lexa says:

      Also, she wasn’t at the very end because she wasn’t in the procession at all. You can see her already at her seat right at the start of the original livestream (you can see the hairpiece I was talking about, too). You can also verify by looking at the photos of the Trump administration staff arriving—specifically look for Dan Scavino, who was right at the end.

    • CuriousCole says:

      It IS odd she wouldn’t wear a tiara, as State Dinners call for them, and she definitely has one at her disposal.

  5. Beach Dreams says:

    You know, I’m not sure she was even in the procession! In some screen caps of the procession walking into the room, it appears that Rose was already at a table with the other guests….

    Btw, the woman she’s walking next to is Sarah Vine, awful DM writer that enjoyed roasting Kate then inevitably moved onto insulting Meghan.

    • Seraphina says:

      @Beachdreams, oooooooohhhhh, thanks for pointing out. It gets even better. Now that’s some meat to chew on.

      • t says:

        And Vine’s the wife of the potential new Prime Minister – she’s married to Michael Gove who is currently switching around the top 3 of the Tory leadership contest.

      • Megan says:

        I didn’t know Gove was married to Vine. He is terrible enough all on his own.

    • Other Renee says:

      Why was Sarah Vine at a state dinner?

      • babco says:

        She s Michael Gove equally worse half

      • t says:

        Married to Michael Gove.

      • Swack says:

        Well, if all of Trump’s adult children are there along with Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Kelly Ann Conway, then why not.

      • Megan says:

        They should have just gone for it and invited Jan Moir as well.

      • PrincessK says:

        Sarah Vine has now written for DM a full account of what happened at the Banquet. She must be desperate for money, I thought she wanted to be a PMs wife, she has no sense of discretion at all.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @PrincessK, She works for the Daily Fail and hangs with Piers Morgan and Sebastian Shakespeare so what can one expect. Her husband, this Tory Gove person, has plenty of money so this is just about her career and her “name in lights”. She is a “hangar on” to aristocrats to get insider Royal Gossip and she will keep the confidences of said aristocrats as no one really cares about what The Duke of And-Or-Wherever is doing or who The Duke of And-Or-Wherever is “doing” if it does not involve a member of the BRF.

    • Yup, Me says:

      I wondered why that woman in black had decided to leave her neck at home on such a formal occasion. If she’s a rag writer, it makes sense- wouldn’t want to get it chopped.

      • Embee says:

        She’s really unusual looking isn’t she? I was wondering if it is just a bad picture or if this is how she is built. How unfortunate if so.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Yup, Me, Definitely the post of the week.

        When do the podcast start back up?

    • Leena says:

      Sarah Vine is evil. Probably spent the evening trying to pump Rose for the goss.

  6. LouBear says:

    She looks amazing though. Great dress, her hair is so beautifully styled.

    • Some chick says:

      It looks like a nightie, tho!

      I’m not a Kate fan but I think she knocked it out of the park here. Her look is totally fashionable, elegant, and appropriately demure.

      Rose looks like she just rolled out of bed… which, perhaps, is the point.

      I got no dog in this race. But walking in with a DF reporter isn’t a great look, in any case.

    • 90sgirl says:

      Kates dress looks like grandmas bedspread and chicken feathers. Awful.
      I love the jewels though.

      Rose’s dress is absolutely stunning.

    • Kylie says:

      She didn’t style the dress correctly. It has a vintage vibe to it and she didn’t do anything with it.

      • Trashaddict says:

        I would assume if you’re Brit upper crust it’s just too, too, to bother with accessories. Maybe it’s her way of shading the whole ridiculous event.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Cathy’s dress is regal as in Disney Princess. Rose’s dress is glamorous as in Caroline Bessette Kennedy.

      INHO, they looked very different giving off very different vibes but they both looked great.

  7. Georgiamay says:

    If she doesn’t show up it means the rumors are true, and if she does show up it means the rumors are true. If she walks in the procession people will have something to say, and if she doesn’t walk in the procession people will have something to say. If she’s pictured talking  with Kate it is pr, and if they’re sat apart she’s been banished. Honestly this is a no win situation cause people are just going to come up with their own narrative anyway.

    If this is just vicious gossip then I’m glad she attended cause she shouldn’t be driven into hiding.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Rose who???

      Georgiamay, you are so correct! No matter what happens we will have something to talk about regarding Rose cultivation for years to come. This is as good as gossip gets.

      I think part of the problem is that us Yanks do not understand the “phasing out” problem. This problem is social and hierarchical.

      This is a bad analogy but put on your tinfoil hat and try to imagine if Hillary Clinton had a fling with Nancy Pelosi’s husband. Once Bill Clinton found out about this fling he wanted to have Nancy Pelosi’s husband “phased-out” of the Democratic Party inner circle. Not gonna happen. It does not work like that. Nancy Pelosi’s husband is not going anywhere.

      FYI: I hope Nancy Pelosi has a husband. If not please pretend that she does.

      • Georgiamay says:

        Everything is possible and we also can’t  assume that the ‘phased out’ story is true in the first place. How many times have we read about Meghan or Harry supposedly banishing one of their friends only for it not to be true. This could also be made up. If Kate & Rose were to be at an event together looking friendly then people will scream that it is pr. Like I said it’s a no win situation.

      • 90sgirl says:

        But William got lawyers involved on the Rose story and not for libel but for human rights violation. That is a big tell.

      • Melmella says:

        His lawyers also said the rumors were false. I’m not versed in European law but I thought the media would have to print an explicit accusation before you could sue for libel. So far none of the UK media have made this accusation so I don’t think he could sue for libel.

      • Megan says:

        Pelosi has a fabulous husband. He buys all of her clothes for her. He has excellent taste.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Megan, Reminds me of David Cholmondeley, who probably, is also a fabulous husband. LOL! LOL!

        Ms. Nancy is always dressed to perfection. I love her style.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        deleted comment.

      • Becks1 says:

        Not to nitpick lol, but it would be more like if Bill and Nancy had an affair (lolol) back in the day (maybe during his governor days) and Hillary tried to phase Nancy out of the democratic party as a result. Nancy is from an old Democratic family. You aren’t phasing her out of her party, TYVM. She would have dealt with Hillary swiftly.

        That’s what happened here (ALLEGEDLY.)

        Question for the peanut gallery – is it “phase out” or “faze out”?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Becks1, You are so correct. I forgot that Nancy Pelosi’s father was Mayor of Baltimore for like a zillion years and big part of the Democratic Party on the national level. Story would be better if Bill & Nancy had a roll in the hay. My bad! LOL! LOL!

        I use “phase out” because that is term Royal Foibles used.

        You and I must get together and write fan-fiction.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Bay – and her brother! I’m a Baltimore girl myself, so I have always appreciated Nancy D’Alesandro.

        YES to the fan fic lol. We can spin some tangled webs on here lol.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Becks1, I want to get into Tinfoil Hat territory!

    • Kylie says:

      Yup. It is the ultimate no win situation. That is the problem with rumors of this nature. Regardless of what is true and what isn’t true from now on what anyone connected does or doesn’t do people will read something into it.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        This type of speculation has continued for years with regards to Princess Anne & Andrew Parker-Bowles and is commented on each time they both show up at the same event usually sitting at the same table.

  8. Flying fish says:

    Rose was styled just right. Sophisticated and polished not frumpy and frilly!

    • BaronSamedi says:

      Agreed. She looks so much better than Kate I almost feel sorry for Kate. And don’t nobody come for me about the comparison: It is absolutely legit to compare fashion at a public event. I just think that Rose hit the nail on the head while Kate missed again. Imagine Kate in Rose’s gown. It would have worked SO much better with all the bling too. Kate’s look is simply too busy.

      • 90sgirl says:

        I didn’t like the fabric fluffy look of Kates dress at all.
        It looks like a cross between my grandmas bedspread and feathers.

        I also didn’t like Ivankas dress much either for a State Banquet, the dress although nice, it seemed more suited for something else, a fundraiser, a luncheon, a garden party maybe.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        Both women look gorgeous (at this event!), to me. Rose looks more sultry and Kate looks more chaste. Both dressed with their caricatures as inspiration.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Kate was dressed like a dowdy future Queen Consort she will become. IMHO, Diana dressed very dowdy too until she divorced then she turned up the glamour to “high”. Rose Cholmondeley can dress with high glamour or any way she chooses . Cathy Cambridge cannot.

    • Enn says:

      I sold that dress at David’s Bridal in the aughts. It’s a definite miss for me. Slinky Hollywood glam has a place and it’s not a state dinner.

      • 90sgirl says:

        When did Diana wear that Elvis dress? Diana had a few lovely slinky looks when married.

        The problem with Kate is she really lacks innate style, I think most things wear her.

      • Karen2 says:

        I so agree. That is an amazing dress to wear to a state banquet. Shes saying something but I havent a clue what.

    • Mego says:

      Her look is very simple – no flashy make up or jewelry. Elegant dress. Only criticism is I see too much of her bare chest.

  9. Redgrl says:

    Hmmm… Rose is not wearing her wedding ring (or so it seems in that pic…)

  10. Casey20 says:

    Terrible night for Kate. Rose and Trump in the same room. I’m sure she will take a month off for being put in that position!

    • Darla says:

      I actually do feel badly for her. We all focused on how he insulted Meghan (which he did!) I actually forgot trump commented on Kate’s nude pics, and she had to sit there knowing he looked at them, and omg I can’t even go on

      • 90sgirl says:

        That was the British press goal and agenda, to put focus on Meghan and not remind people that Trump basically called Kate out for being in her positions and sunbathing topless. Even though Melania has photos m well before marriage anyway.
        The U.K. Press are hypocrites and Trump is a hypocrite

      • L84Tea says:

        Ugh, yeah, that grosses me out for her.

      • Becks1 says:

        Yeah, I thought that was pretty gross (that she had to attend.) I said yesterday that it just struck me as mean. I know the royal family has to do these types of events, but considering the personal nature of Trump’s comments, it must have been tough for Kate and Will.

      • CooCooCatchoo says:

        Remember what Trump told Howard Stern about Princess Diana? He basically stalked her during her solo, post-divorce visit to NYC. He sent her several flowers and with notes asking her out. She declined, and later called his efforts “creepy.” That bruised his Great Orange Ego, so he told Stern that he was just trying to get her into bed; he tagged her as vulnerable and mental ill, and said that “women like that” are wild in bed.
        Fast forward to him calling Meghan Markle “nasty,” and… it’s no wonder Harry avoided him.

    • Flying fish says:


  11. aquarius64 says:

    The press is waiting for William to slip up, then they’ll run with it.

    • 90sgirl says:

      IMO Only the American press will run with it, when, if he slips up. The British media will protect him until it’s absolutely impossible to and something official emerges,until then IMO the British media will ignore it.

      It is interesting that Rose walked in with the lady who is a columnist from the Daily Mail.

      • WheresMyTiara says:

        American press already running with it! Get a load of In Touch magazine for the week of June 10, 2019. It’s the entire front cover. I saw it in the shops yesterday. I don’t think it’ll get much attention in the US on account of the State Visit – we’re more freaking about about what Turnip and Nagini and the whole sick entourage of racist grifters are getting up to.

        Pretty sure Ma Middleton is not behind this one, she’d have picked a more flattering photo of her Darling Daughter for the front cover. It’s slightly cringeworthy.

        The mag is claiming they’re sleeping in separate bedrooms and are undergoing couple’s therapy.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      I think the only way the British press will run with it is if he’s blatantly been caught out (pictures, videos, texts, etc.). I doubt he’ll slip up a la Swiss ski trip in 2017, he and his team are likely still on edge about the turnip toff rumors. I find it interesting that some of the media have been rehashing old stories about the difficulties in Will and Kate’s dating years. I’ve seen at least three of those in the past month. To me it signals that some of the press are dying to cover the Rose story but can’t for obvious reasons.

      • 90sgirl says:

        Yes suddenly there are Andrew Morton stories featured in a couple of UK newspapers about how many times William and Kate actually broke up, it’s a lot more than most suspected. Also suddenly Morton stories on how he treated her like a servent basically.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @90sgirl, Treated who like a servant: Cathy or Rose?

      • 90sgirl says:

        Articles in the Express UK over the past few weeks, one that William treated Kate like a servent and many more breakups than people imagined.
        They Are from Andrew Morton.

        There is another article (based on Andrew Morton ) that said several of Kate’s friends who saw how he treated her and how the relationship was ,begged her not to return to him when he dumped her in 07.

        I’ll look for link

      • Becks1 says:

        That’s a very weird Express story. Is there a book coming out or something? Because its all “they broke up repeatedly and William treated her like crap” and then “They got married and lived happily ever after!!!!!”

      • Lulu says:

        Ouch! That story sounds nasty…but I’m curious why they never give specifics. How does jet-setting, partying, and buying her expensive gifts equate to treating her like a servant? I wish the press woukd give hardcore facts or just leave it alone.

      • nic919 says:

        I saw references to articles about the dating years and the many break ups and I was surprised that these were recent articles and not from several years ago. I believe it was the Express that received the threatening letter from the lawyers so maybe the editors were having a bit of fun with this.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      The US America press is still printing stories at a slow trickle waiting for the sprint.

  12. tempest prognosticator says:

    I wonder where Rose’s cuckholded husband sat?

  13. Seraphina says:

    What in the world is she wearing. Looks like a dress you’d wear out to a party not to dinner with the Queen and dignitaries. And if I were Rose, I would have put on a tiara just for fun. I’m sure they may have one lurking in a family vault somewhere.

    • Darla says:

      You enjoy humiliating women then? Is it your dream to become a man’s mistress and then show up and humiliate his wife?

      • Seraphina says:

        Wills humiliated his wife. Rose humiliated her husband. Let’s place blame where it should be placed – IF the rumors are true. And no one but those four know the truth. Everything else is hear say UNLESS they were seen together.

        Secondly, I was having fun. Relax, It’s a GOSSIP blog. Rose should be there due to her husband’s rank and status. And yes, I would put in a tiara and waltz in. They don’t play by the same rule book as the other 98% of the population.

      • Cee says:

        Darla you need to relax. No one is stanning Rose. Aren’t we allowed to make observations on fashion anymore? Or the fact that as a Marchioness she has leave to wear a tiara and decided not to?
        You apparently have an issue with cheaters and wounded wives – stop projecting on us when we’re talking about an aristocrat’s dress.

      • Darla says:

        I have issues, my husband done me wrong and slept with my sister from another mother and i was so humiliated I never went with a man again.

      • Maria says:

        I’m sorry Darla :-( That’s awful. You deserve better!

      • Darla says:

        Oh Maria I feel so bad, I was just kidding. I have never even married. LOL I am going to stop on this thread because I am getting silly. Thank you for your kind thoughts though.

      • Maria says:

        :-D any time <3

      • Seraphina says:

        @Darla, I find it in very poor taste you would make fun of abused women and say you were victimized. Very poor taste.

    • Jen says:

      She wore a tiara with that same dress at the State dinner for Spain. So I think she was purposely trying to be low-key this time.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Rose has been know to re-wear her very expensive evening gowns many times over, Just like The Princess Royal does with all her clothes.

      • A says:

        In all fairness though–who, outside of a few people, was paying attention to Rose Hanbury before now? I only knew of her because she’s a society type who’s made the Tatler before, and I know she has the Cholmondeley tiara, and I like jewelry. You might have heard of her if you know who the Lord Chamberlain is. But otherwise, she’s not in the public eye, so of course she rewears her expensive evening gowns. Her husband might be rich, but country piles cost a lot in upkeep, and if they’re like any other aristocrat, they’re usually short on cash and wealthy in land and other assets.

    • carol lindsey says:

      I actually really like the dress!

  14. Hyacinth Bucket says:

    Kate looked more stoned faced than I’ve ever seen her on the news footage. I assumed it was because of Trump, but who knows?

    It is odd Rose has stopped wearing her wedding ring.

  15. 90sgirl says:

    I LOVE Rose’s dress, it’ has a Caroline Bessette vibe.
    Roses skin looks great.

    I just read that the woman walking in with Rose is a Daily Mail columnist. It gets more and more interesting by the moment,

    William looked miserable all night, but he usually looks like that on the way to State dinners and at State dinners for some reason.

    I didn’t like Kates dress much at all. I think McQueen fashion house is not even close to what Alexander McQueen represented and designed.

    • Darla says:

      My skin looks at least as good and I am 52, much older than her. You know how? I make a lot of money and I get an expensive oxygen lift facial weekly. The same way other women get their nails done. I also have very subtle fillers, also very expensive, done by the best.

      What does this tell you about me? How is this an admirable quality? It makes me feel good, but it is in no way an admirable quality.

      • Becks1 says:

        She didn’t say it was an admirable quality? She said her skin looks great. Is that not an acceptable comment anymore?

      • 90sgirl says:

        Thank you Becks1

        Her skin looks great.
        I love her dress.
        I love the Caroline Bessette vibe of it.

      • Darla says:

        It’s the overall stanning of this side piece for being a side piece. It is quite fascinating, please proceed.

      • Purplehazeforever says:

        I feel ya,’s because no one likes Kate here. So of course, people are going to stan for the rumored side piece. If it was anyone else, she’d be vilified. But she’s being compared to Kate, who celebitchy readers don’t like.

      • Seraphina says:

        @Darla, who is stanning???? Her skin was commented on. That it looks good. No one is exalting Rose. And like I’ve said before, no one really knows if she and Wills did have an affair. We are all speculating and assuming. Obviously you have issue by calling her a side piece.

      • Darla says:

        Purplehaze, I sincerely totally forgot that this is a very antikate place. I rarely read the royal threads here or anywhere. Today I am because of trump. I actually have nothing bad to say about either kate or meghan.

      • Becks1 says:

        If people think that CBers are “stanning” Rose Hanbury (if I never hear that word again, it will be too soon) because we are gleeful that William cheated on Kate, then you haven’t been following the comments closely enough.

        Almost everyone has said they feel bad for Kate if the rumors are true, and William is an ass to cheat on Kate with one of her friends (however close they actually were.) Many have questioned what motivated Rose Hanbury. No one has said she is perfect.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Kate is not my favorite but I do not dislike her. I can honestly say that I like Kate. If I were the Duchess of Cambridge, I would do things very differently but that’s me.

        Kate has make to her own choices and live with them. None of knows what is really going on and what drives her to make the choices that she makes. We only speculate for entertainment and I intend to be entertained by continuing to speculating on the BRF for years to come.

      • Darla says:

        LOL The great thing is while you are below my comment trying to discredit what I said, the comments keep coming below this proving me absolutely right. :)

      • Maria says:

        Darla, you seem to be glossing over the marital responsibilities of Kate’s husband a little too freely.

        He is the one who broke his vows to Kate, if this happened. Rose has no emotional responsibility towards Kate whatsoever.

      • Darla says:


    • mercury says:

      nobody is stanning Rose. She looks great. its an observation

  16. Darla says:

    I am in no way a prude, and probably have a more varied sexual history than most here, but I will tell you never have I seen such stanning of side pieces. It’s very interesting and I have to admit I am curious what it means.

    • tempest prognosticator says:

      The Rose-stanning speakes volumes about the stans.

    • Ader says:

      I don’t see anyone “stanning” Rose. That’s just my observation, though. Seems like people just like her dress and styling.

      But, just as a hypothetical question: What if the rumors are truly false and Rose has never slept with William? What if they’re actually just friends? Heck, what if it wasn’t Rose having the affair with William, but Rose’s husband?

      My point is that we don’t know the real deal. She may not be his “side piece.”

      • Seraphina says:

        @Ader, THIS!!!

        We all are assuming. And no one but those four know the truth. Sure we can speculate and play detective. And we are here on a gossip blog, so yeah we jump to the most obvious but it may not be the case. What was the quote on Victoria when she tried to reveal a scandal??? Lord M told her: be careful because the mud doesn’t always stick to the right people. TRUTH.

      • Ader says:

        Agreed Seraphina.

        And, looking back at the original Rose gossip, the story was that Kate allegedly tried to phase rose out from being a “close confidant.” To me, that suggests that the supposed offense involved revealing some sort of secret, not an affair with Rose, per say.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Well at least the Cholmondeley’s made a metric-f*ck-tonne of money for charity this year with their annual exhibition month long wing-ding shindig at Houghton Hall.

        The rumor of David Rocksavage & Bill Cambridge has some mileage on many of the less classy gossip site. I wonder which would bother Kate more.

      • Ader says:

        I’ve never heard the rumor about Rocksavage and Will before. I was just making a point that we have no idea. But I don’t think talking about bisexuality has anything to do with “classiness.” There’s nothing wrong with bisexuality.

        Just to be clear, my comment about Rocksavage and Will was not a passive aggressive slight.

    • Maria says:

      I like Kate. That being said, Kate BEGAN as a side piece when William was dating Carly Massy Birch and Olivia Hunt.
      As I said before, no one was married with children then, so it’s often brushed aside. The problem is not the “side pieces” but the entitled attitude of the 2nd in line to the throne and the way he treats women.
      It’s not stanning to state that Rose has better connections, more wealth, and isn’t going anywhere.

      • Momoftwo says:

        Neither is Kate though, she’s the mom of the future KOE, her place is secure

      • Maria says:

        Kate’s place is secure as long as William wants it to be. If he wakes up and changes his mind one morning about their marriage, it’s done. She is not much liked in his circles for various reasons, and her marriage to him was the only reason she fully entered any of these circles at all (she didn’t even in the dating years). And there’s no guarantee there will even be a monarchy by the time George is of age to ascend the throne.

        Rose Hanbury’s grandmother attended the wedding of Queen Elizabeth II. Rose’s husband is Great Chamberlain, and the Queen Consort’s throne (the one Kate will theoretically one day use) is at his home. When Charles takes the throne, Rose’s husband will have a major part in his historic ceremony, and so will Rose. They are far richer than William, as well.
        Rose’s place in this world is far more secure than Kate’s.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “Rose Hanbury’s grandmother attended the wedding of Queen Elizabeth II.”

        Not only did Rose Handbury’s grandmother attend the wedding of QEII, she was one of QEII’s bridesmaids. They had been friends since their childhood due to the grandmother being selected as one of QEI’s earliest playmates.

      • nic919 says:

        Was anyone around when Diana got divorced? She was the mother of a future king at the time as well. Or how about Caroline of Brunswick? History has shown that the married-ins are only as secure as their royal spouse wants them to be.

      • A says:

        @Maria, “Rose’s place in the world is far more secure than Kate” except it really isn’t. I can’t see how you’d conceivably get rid of the monarchy without also sending the aristocracy packing in the same tune. If there’s no royal family in the future, what is the purpose of the Lord Chamberlain’s position? Why keep any aristocratic titles? The Cholmondeley’s are privy to a fortune that they haven’t fully earned either, just the same as the royals, and the same as any other aristocrat in the country.

      • oddly says:

        @Maria …..” When Charles takes the throne, Rose’s husband will have a major part in his historic ceremony, and so will Rose. ”

        No, even though the Lord Great Chamberlain’s title is hereditary it belongs to two branches of the family, each branch holds the title for one Monarch’s life time, then it passes to the other side of the family. When the Queen dies the position/title passes to the Ancaster/Lincolnshire branch , at the moment Lord Carrington is their nominee for the post. Interestingly Camillas cousin Rufus Keppel, 10th Earl of Albemarle is a member of the clan and is technically in the running. After Charles it reverts back to the Chumley line. Which means David may well be LGC for William.

      • Maria says:

        oddly, yes, I was mistaken. That makes it even more juicy, though!

      • Maria says:

        A, I can’t see the future, so I have no idea how that would look. But I think untangling the private wealth from families like the Cholmondeleys would be even more lengthy and difficult than abolishing the monarchy itself. In any case, the Republic website does not mention the wealth of the aristocracy, only altering the House of Lords. Rose and David are not heads of state, so they are not under that scrutiny.

        Really, I’m talking about right now. Kate’s place in this world is not as secure as Rose’s, the *uncertainty* itself about the monarchy is also part of that, and Kate herself is not helping that by how little she does, honestly.

    • Momoftwo says:

      It’s really disconcerting, isn’t it? It maybe the norm, but doesn’t make it any less awful

    • Surly Gale says:

      Darla~What are you calling “stanning” on Rose? According to Google, stanning means:
      be an overzealous or obsessive fan of a particular celebrity.
      @Darla, you seem to be stanning us all here at Celebitchy. Did I use it right?

      For fun, look at Rose side by side with, say, Ivanka…..or any of the trumped women. All over the top (are they stanned?) and then the simplicity of Rose’s presentation of her..self…. we then get to pick which we like best (ah, okay, THIS is what you mean, Darla, yes?).

      right, I’m a stunned stan stanning a stunning dress….. :)

    • bonobochick says:

      You keep misusing the word ‘stanning”

  17. Becks1 says:

    I think Rose looks great. You have all these women in these really almost overdone formal gowns, and then Rose with minimal jewelry, this minimalist dress with a definite vintage vibe, and I think she looks the best.

    I am intrigued by her lack of wedding ring, but not really. If she and her husband are on the outs, she’s not going to start the tongues wagging by not wearing it to such a prominent function.

    • 90sgirl says:

      I think her style is great too, I love her dress.

      I wonder if she wore her ring at the precious State dinner?

    • Beach Dreams says:

      I think she’s wearing it on her right hand. Well, she’s wearing *a* ring on it, wedding or otherwise.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      I find Rose very interesting. I find her husband very-very interesting. As a couple, I find Rose & David even more interesting. Rose & David had (and have) much more interesting lives than Bill & Cathy Cambridge.

  18. Lizzie says:

    there was not a chin in sight at that dinner

  19. Busyann says:

    This sucks and no one deserves to be so blatantly disrespected, but this is what Kate signed up for, so I don’t necessarily feel bad for Kate. She knew what Will was like before they married. There are trade offs to get the crown and this is one of them. Her husband will cheat, but the trade off is the crown and the likelihood that they will likely never get divorced. This won’t be a Charles, Diana, Camilla situation which probably played a huge role in helping Kate to get her GCVO. Like Royal Foibles said a while back, the mistake here was made by Kate when she approached her husband’s supposed infidelity like a commoner and tried to banish Rose. We wouldn’t have been none the wiser had she understood how these things work in aristocratic circles. It seems Kate learned her lesson, because Rose looks like the cat that got the cream in these pics.

    • Jen says:

      What is a GCVO?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        It is a special order-award that the monarch gives to members of the RF for services rendered to to the sovereign.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        GCVO = Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order

    • Cee says:

      they will be done if and when William wants it to be and the media will turn on her. He will throw her under the bus if needed.

      • oddly says:

        Didn’t work with Diana, history does repeat itself William will be Charles mark II in the press.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @oddly, I agree with you. It seems to me in the Bill vs. Cathy showdown (if there is one), the general public would go with Cathy. IMHO, Cathy is the much more likable of the two. I may be wrong but in the USA people seem to side with the mother of the children especially if she is not a fault.

      • Cee says:

        People forget Diana wasn’t worshiped for the last years of her life. The press turned on her and a lot of people were intolerant of her doings. Then she died tragically and unexpectedly and her life was rewritten.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate has done nothing to endear herself to the general public, is lazy and unprofessional, and her family is disliked by many. The public would not rally around her. If William chose to divorce Kate, odds are people would side with William. See the Camilla cleanup campaign.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @notasugarhere, Thanks for a UK perspective.

  20. Lucy says:

    Sarah Vine is married to Conservative MP, pro-Brexiteer and one of the contenders for PM of UK. His wife is literally a british version Ann Coulter: extremely misogynistic and rascist.

    • Darla says:

      Welp…am I surprised that the sidepiece strolled in with her then? Nope.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Not surprising at all; Rose interned for Michael Gove when she was younger.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Rose’s sister, Marina Hanbury married to the Earl of Durham, interned for Kate Hoey, MP when she was younger.

      • PrincessK says:

        OMG! It is all so like nepotism, everyone is working with everyone, so it was no accident that they walked in together, and no accident that DM is denying that there is any affair. I am so glad I do not belong in those circles….ugh!

  21. Kylie says:

    I feel it would be more noteworthy if Rose wasn’t there since she is often there because of her husband’s position.

    • Amy Tennant says:

      After bingeing The Crown, it seems quite normal to me. Everyone carries on as they should and keeps up appearances, and if her husband is there, then she is there. I agree with you.

  22. Toot says:

    Hmm, I saw a pic of where Rose was seated, and she was directly down the line on Will’s sight. He was looking straight ahead and you could see her.

    Anyway, it’s more interesting that she walked in with a nasty gossip writer from Dailymail.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Well at least it was not Piers Morgan or Sebastian Shakespeare as walking in with those two would have really sent tongues a wagging.

      • A says:

        Honestly? It might as well be one of those two. Sarah Vine might not be quite as overtly nasty as Piers Pugh-Morgan, but she’s bad enough, and her husband “I’m Tired Of the Experts” Michael Gove is worse than all of them.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Why assume she had any say in her walking-in partner? These things are coordinated by someone else, everything from who sits where to who walks with whom.

  23. RoyalBlue says:

    Rose looks gorgeous and it is noted that she came in last. Please someone spill the tea!!!!

    • oddly says:

      She didn’t come in last, she came in sometime before the procession of Royals and VIPs and was already seated when they came in.

  24. Digital Unicorn says:

    I love Rose’s dress, she is stylish and doesn’t dress like a frumpy old matron.

    As for the woman she’s walking in with – the DM gossip columnist and Michael Gove’s wife, just goes to prove how connected she and her husband are. The Middleton’s like to think they are connected but they’re not really.

  25. Lala11_7 says:

    I LOVE Rose’s light summer style that is effortlessly sophisticated….

    There are SOME folks that were there last night that need to take some SERIOUS fashion notes from Rose…


  26. Patty says:

    Kate may be more conventionally attractive (in some people’s eyes) but Rose is striking. If it’s true, I could see why someone like William or just people in general would be drawn to her. I really liked her dress last night. Kate was Kate – her look was consistent with what we’ve seen before and I wasn’t a fan.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Rose, much like her husband, has that quality that cannot be defined in spades: “It”.

      • Betty says:

        um no they don’t- they are the most blah boring people i have ever seen and if they weren’t connected to Kate no one would look twice at them.

        I thought Kate looked unbelievable last night although I wasn’t crazy about her dress.

      • Darla says:

        So hilarious.

        I frankly wouldn’t notice her in any of my fav local eateries. She has It in spades. Um, okay.

    • Brandy Alexander says:

      See, and I think she looks like absolutely nothing special, in ill fitting clothes (this dress and the one from the event that constantly gets posted here). Everyone’s tastes are different though…

  27. Cee says:

    Seeing how every member of the Royal Family attended, I’m pretty certain that Harry was given a pass. There is no way the Goucesters, Kents and OfMicheals would be there and not Harry. Someone didn’t want to go and Granny allowed it and that’s why he was roped into the BP Lunch and everything else.

    • oddly says:

      Harry has only ever been to one State Banquet in his life, and that one was for his distant cousin the the King of Spain. The Gloucester’s and Kent’s have attended vertually every State Banquet since the Queen’s coronation, decades before Harry was even born. If the Queen wanted Harry there, he would be there and told to suck it up, he was superfluous to requirements.

      • ADS says:

        @oddly that is not my understanding. The press reports in London had him listed as due to attend every event including the state dinner. When he ducked out of the afternoon tour and did not attend the banquet it was remarked upon because he was expected to remain. His absence was unexpected and the speculation in the media is that he took particular exception to Trumps comments about his wife.

      • notasugarhere says:

        It was tabloid speculation that Harry would attend anything other than the announced lunch. Meghan hasn’t been seen in a month and she’s still the only thing the tabs can focus on. What power.

  28. Avery says:

    Both Kate and Rose have that horrible hunched posture. I want to yell stand up straight so bad!
    I thought Kate had horrible posture but Rose is just as bad. I am so surprised with all of this money and protocol that no one has ever suggested to stand up straight with you shoulders back.

    • Chrissy says:

      That’s been my biggest beef with Kate since forever. Her bad posture screams ‘insecurity” to me. That’s why her clothing always seem to be wearing her.

    • Jaded says:

      I think it’s a class thing – I’ve noticed it in a lot rich, thin, entitled women who for decades have adopted the “model slouch”, the IDGAF posture of women who know they’re far above the fray. They deliberately slouch to show that wealthy, bored look, a sort of sultry “don’t care, not impressed” pose.

  29. Louise says:

    How is Rose attending a state dinner remotely interesting as you state in your article that its not surprising that she would attend as he husband has a role to play. Also if they were broken up (which I’m assuming your no wedding ring. tiara line is insinuating) then why would she be there with her husband. As for her partner walking in I would imagine the partners are set by tptb as everything else is planned in extreme detail.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      One never walks one’s own spouse into a formal dinner nor do you sit by your own spouse.

      David Cholmondeley had an official function to perform and was seated accordingly. Rose was seated according to the status attributed to the wife of QEII’s Lord Great Chamberlain of the United Kingdom who has not been “phased out”. Rose had no official capacity at this this event.

      David Cholmondeley could be married to Kaiser and Kaiser would have set in the same place as Rose.

  30. MissM says:

    Rose wasnt wearing a tiara when she always has in the past and she wasnt wearing her wedding ring. She also was last in the procession and she walked in with Sarah Vine who is a Daily Mail gossip writer who has been very critical of Kate in the past.
    Everyone was looking for signs that the royals were snubbing Trump last night while the most interesting bit of gossip to come out of the state dinner has gone relatively unnoticed.

    • TheMummy says:

      Why would she wear a tiara? She’s not royal or even anything close to it. She’s married to a guy with status, but doesn’t have any officially capacity of her own…. I’m not being snarky. I actually don’t understand why Lady Random Aristocrat would wear a tiara…?

      • Laura says:

        Because the dress code is white tie. In that case, if you’ve got one (and the Cholmondeley family surely does) you wear it, title or no title.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        If the dress code is “white tie” any married lady may wear a tiara or diamond hair jewelry (See Jennie Jerome, Lady Randolph Churchill).

        If I owned one, I personally would have no problem wearing a tiara to the grocery store. If I had the chance to go to “white-tie” shindig, I would steal a tiara.

      • oddly says:

        Rose does have a title she is the Marchioness of Cholmondeley, next step down from a Duchess, and she has worn a tiara to every other State Banquet she has attended.

    • Lexa says:

      She wasn’t in the procession, let alone last. Check out the livestream because you can see her from the back at about eight seconds in already at the table while the royals walk in. I’m guessing she isn’t wearing a tiara because she’s wearing some sort of hairpiece to pin her hair back. I don’t know what the deal is with her rings but from past photos she seems to only wear thing bands on her left hand anyway.

    • L84MYTEA says:

      Rose was wearing a tiara in the back of her head as a hair accessory. Here’s a pic.

  31. NessaBee says:

    The order they walk into the banquet room is predetermined by the Order of Precedence, meaning how close the individual is to the throne. The monarch is always first in Precedence, followed by the heir, the next heir, etc. Spouses walk behind the royal they married, and each member of the family escorts a guest. There is no shade here, just that Rose, as a Marquess, is the farthest ‘host’ from the throne. Love that they invited the gossip columnist from the Fail. What on earth!?

  32. Emilia says:

    The fact that Rose walked in with a nasty DM columnist who has written some cruel and downright racist things about Meghan cements my Team Kate stance in this whole affair debacle.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      The columnist is also the wife of Michael Gove, senior Tory politician and potential future PM of the UK. She wasn’t there because she is a DM writer.

      • A says:

        “The columnist is also the wife of Michael Gove” If anything, this makes Rose Hanbury look ten times worse than she’s ever done before. People hadn’t talked much about the fact that she’d interned for Michael Gove, but now she’s walking in with his wife, a gossip columnist for the DM, to a state dinner for Donald Trump? Y I K E S.

    • franke says:

      She didn’t get to pick who she walked in with.

      • Betty says:

        yes she did- she wasn’t part of the procession she was just walking in

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Also those people already in the dining room standing behind their chairs were NOT in the official procession. If you are not in the procession you can stroll into the dining room anytime you want with anyone you want BEFORE the official procession begins.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Betty – you are right, I didn’t realize she wasn’t part of the procession (she was at the Spanish state dinner, when Harry escorted her in.) so this pic must be from before she was seated? I dunno, I still don’t think its that ominous in that “Rose must be feeding info to the Mail.” Maybe ominous in that the woman seems awful and if she and Rose are friendly, then ew. (Although maybe Rose herself is awful! who knows lol.)

    • Becks1 says:

      I don’t understand. Because Rose walked in with a reporter who has said some nasty things about Meghan, you are going to side with Kate over….who? rose? William? Meghan?

      One could argue that IF rose is friendly with the DM reporter, and Rose and Kate were/are friends, maybe Kate was feeding Rose bad things about Meghan to pass on. DUN DUN DUN.

      (I don’t know who that reporter is besides what people here have said.)

      But in reality, she didn’t pick who she walked in with, so I think people are reading way too much into it.

      • Leena says:

        @ Becks1 “so I think people are reading way too much into it.”

        Surely not Becks. 🤣

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Becks1. Agree with you. All these Royal Reporters and non-Royal aristos are thick as thieves and know each other very well.

        Royal Reporters are professional “hangars on” in aristocratic circles. Where does one think the RRs get the true low-down on what is really going on with Royals whether they print the truth or not. Also, someone has to promote all the “public days” the aristos have at their family manorial piles for charity or estate upkeep.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Leena no one can ever accuse me of over-analyzing something royal related ;-)

      • notasugarhere says:

        I doubt she picked her walking mate. These things are structured from beginning to end. You stand, walk, sit where the staff tell you to.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Rose was once an intern for Sarah’s husband so there’s already some familiarity between her and the Goves. Says a lot about her political proclivities (which shouldn’t be surprising to anyone, considering these are aristocrats we’re talking about) but I don’t think there’s any conspiratorial plotting afoot.

  33. dialM says:

    tinfoil hat time. Rose is walking in w/ writing of DM, whose written some awful things about Meg. What if the whole Turnip Toff was about Rose leaking things Kate had told her about Meg – the crying at Charlotte’s dress fitting. That could be another reason for the fall out? Loose lips sink ships and all that jazz. Especially since those stories reflected poorly on the Doolittles

    • Becks1 says:

      I could almost see that, except for the way William came out swinging and so completely shut down the story. Sure, it wouldn’t look great for it to come out that Kate was complaining about Meghan to Rose, but I think if that was it, the RRs would have had little interest in it and William would not have started threatening legal action.

      • dialM says:

        he could have come out swinging to try to prove to Harry that he wasn’t behind the stories?

  34. TheMummy says:

    Rose’s dress looks like something she pulled out of the dirty clothes hamper that she gave a shake, put it in the dryer on fluff, and said, “Screw it. This is fine.”

  35. Nicegirl says:

    The dress on the Marchioness!! 👗 I’m into it! Very pretty

  36. Laura says:

    No tiara at a state banquet? You know the House of Cholmondeley has at least a couple of them for Rose to choose from.

  37. MA says:

    Mark Distefano, Buzzfeed UK media and politics reporter, on Rose Hanbury:

    “Insane to me that this country can’t report on th- *three eds leap the news desk to tackle me*”

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Heh, a good point and I’m sure some of the reporters are frustrated. Interestingly enough, some of the British outlets are pointing out Rose’s presence, but I’m sure they won’t say more than that (I can’t be bothered to click on the stories and give them traffic). The headlines are referring to her as Kate’s “rural rival” again.

    • A says:

      It’s really funny to me how the press blackout, even such a strict, OTT one, has had the exact opposite effect. It’s even spawned some very creative ways of talking about the things you’re not supposed to talk about.

  38. Dali says:

    Its not just a power move to go side by side with a DM journalist, it should make it clear that rose and especially her husband have a lot of influence. If anyone shut the rumours down, then it was her and her husband.
    We still don’t know what really happened but an affair is more exciting then anything else , so some people cant let go even if it’s probably not true. The good thing though is, not a lot of people are that much interested in the royals, in Europe its mostly very old people.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      In the USA it just the gang that hangs out at Celebitchy! LOL! LOL!

      Actually , I think the majority of posters here at CB are more interested in the fashion & the politics than anything else. The Royal stuff is just a cherry on top of the whipped cream on the sundae.

  39. aquarius64 says:

    In the end Meghan wins. Harry showed the world he loves his wife by distancing himself from the man who insulted her. William shows he’ll sic lawyers on journalists who write stories that make him look bad.

    • Guest says:

      Meghan definitely got the better brother. Kate might get the title and jewels but she also got a pompous man-child that looks like a thumb with teeth, and also looks like the type of person that will always put himself first.

  40. GreenQueen says:

    So much slouching it hurts my eyes and makes me feel sad for the gowns. Bad posture really does ruin a look. What a waste!

  41. Casey20 says:

    Daily Fail with article on Rose. So favorable for Rose. Looks like she’s not don’t with Kate. I’m not Kate’s biggest supporter but …How dare this woman seek attention! She cheated with Kate’s husband. Is there NO shame in this woman! Put William out there for being an A-hole but Kate doesn’t deserve this one bit!!! Once again the wife is pitted against the other woman while the A-hole gets a pass!

    • Guest says:

      She knows what she’s doing. Dont hate the player, hate the game. Rose out maneuvered Kate, with the whole banishment story. She knows how to play the game better.

      William gets a pass because remember his “human rights.” the media blackout thing is still going on because that reporter from buzzfeed mentioned it. Karma always finds a way though.

    • A says:

      Yeah, I can’t see how the favourable coverage for Rose is going to turn out long term. I think people are fine with a bit of salacious gossip about William, but the narrative has to be one where Kate is the innocent victim. It becomes a deeply unpalatable story otherwise, a little too reminiscent of Diana, if you ask me.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate began her relationship with William by sleeping with him behind his girlfriend’s back. She stood back while he cheated on her for years and always went chasing after him. Should she be surprised if he were faithful after the wedding, because he never was faithful before it?

      Why are you assuming Rose and William had an affair? Could be William and Rocksavage, Rose and Rock covering up for many William affairs with women other than Rose. Could be no affairs at all, but Kate wanting to be Queen of the Turnip Toffs, the Toffs rejecting her and preferring Rose.

  42. TheOriginalMia says:

    I loved her dress. Very Kiera Knightly/Atonement. Just saw she wore her tiara as a hair piece and I’m liking it.

    I’m in the group that doesn’t think Rose slept with William, but facilitated the affair. I don’t feel sorry for Kate either. She knew he was a cad when she married him. He treated her awfully, but the crown and title were more important than her self respect. That’s on her and I hope it’s worth it (It’s not.). William should feel bad, but it’s been ingrained in him that he’s the heir and what he says/does goes. You’d think he’d do better, but nah…

    • notasugarhere says:

      I think she looks lovely in that dress too.

      W&K live in Anmer Hall where Charles and Camilla met up. He’s close with all the Van Cutsems who lived at Anmer during that time. He cheated on Kate for years before the wedding. The idea that William has a problem with infidelity has always felt like fan fiction.

  43. celialarson12 says:

    IN my opinion William does whatever he wants, he has cheated and will continue to cheat. That being said how did this group let this story get so out of hand. Even if somebody had tweeted about the cheating rumours, why didn`t both the Cambridges and the Cholmo…whatever use their influence to make surethat, not a whiff of it appeared in the UK newspapers.? If I was Kate I would be worried, mother of the future king or not. As for William I would say those who live by the sword die by the sword.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      They should’ve let the initial “rural rivalry” story disappear instead of getting Richard Kay to write that idiotic rebuttal. People were hardly paying attention before that. Giles Coren didn’t post his infamous tweet until Kay’s article came out. It’s stunning to see how this spiraled into the mess it is now and it’s all the Cambridges’ fault. What a perfect demonstration of the Streisand effect.

      • Casey02 says:

        I agree. Someone wants this story out in the public and it’s Rose. Does she want the attention? Does she want to hurt Kate? Maybe she’s out for William?

      • Becks1 says:

        @beachdreams – absolutely agree. The Cambridge’s messed this one up royally, if you will.

        @casey – I can see rose pushing this story as a way to embarrass Kate, especially after that parade of garden pictures and happy Cambridge family pics lol. If Kate really turned on rose, I can see Rose striking back. Kate has a lot more to lose with news of a public affair than Rose. I don’t think rose just would push this story “Willy nilly” (that’s for You Kaiser haha) but I imagine there is a lot happening behind the scenes.

  44. ChiaMom says:

    That’s fine rose has king king balls Kate’s got the tiara sash and royal order so suck it Rose Bush Lol

    • celialarson12 says:

      The Cholmondeleys attending the State banquent amid feud rumours is currently the story just below the headlines on DM online. Somebody wants the story out there and it seems William`s power/ influence will not stop it. I find this situation very awkward.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Actually Rose’s husband is wealthier than William (net wealth approx. £60million as of 2008 – William only around £10mill) and their country pad puts Amner Hall to shame. Her husband David is connected to both the Rothschild and Sassoon families and holds one of the great offices of the UK – Lord Great Chamberlain. Rose herself is descended from an Earl.

      IMO Rose married better than Kate. William won’t inherit the big money until he is King and even then is pretty much made up of property he can’t sell or even own directly (its held in trust for the country) – he gets a % of the profit every year to upkeep the entire Monarchy which equates to around £30million(ish) a year.

      • celialarson12 says:

        I get your point. The thing is, why would they want to embarrass the Cambridges?
        IMO this is not just a hit on Kate, it is also on William otherwise he would never have gotten the lawyers involved. Actually the leaked documents shutting down this story mentioned only William`s private life, not Kate. So those saying that this affair did not happen…….

      • A says:

        Rose married better than Kate, only if we assume that all Kate cares about is money and any old aristocratic title. She doesn’t. She married the future King of England. I don’t think she’s crying into her monogrammed towels about having married someone who won’t be inheriting a drafty country pile with exorbitant overhead costs tbh.

      • Becks1 says:

        @A, I almost agree with you, except I think at times Kate regrets her marriage. Not bc she is married to William or her kids, but because i think overall she would have been much happier being the wife of a rich country lord (like Rocksavage) and not the future queen. I think she likes being the future queen because hey, who wouldn’t? But I think she would have preferred overall to be a rich society wife, who spends some time in London but prefers the aristocratic country life’.

        What the hell is that autocorrect with the accent, I can’t change it for some reason.

        Anyway, basically I think Kate didn’t want to work, and now she has to, even sporadically.

      • A says:

        @Becks1, I don’t think Kate would have been happier as the wife of a rich aristocrat though. She wanted the best, and she got it. I think for her, whether or not William is a decent husband matters a lot less than the fact that she’s his wife, will be Queen someday, and is the mother of the next heir. This makes her sound incredibly mercenary and ruthless, and that’s not my intention because I don’t think she is that way at all. But I don’t think she ever expected to gain a great deal of satisfaction from her marriage, and she’s ultimately made her peace with it, and is much more content to do her own thing as a mom-of-three and the future Queen (work ethic concerns aside ofc).

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        @A – I disagree, Kate DOES and always has cared about money and titles. Carole was determined that he daughters would marry wealthy and preferably titled men. Carole wants to be an aristo and made sure her daughters did what she couldn’t. Even Carole’s own brother said that money and social standing is very important to Carole.

        Carole installed those values into her children.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate wouldn’t have stuck around for 15 years if he was Billy the Plumber.

  45. intheknow says:

    If you can get a picture of the seating arrangements, William was about 5 seats away from Rose at the same table. I don’t know what to think. Someone must really want to stick it to Will and Kate with that seating plan or it’s just karmic having a dig. Kate was on the other side at different table with the Gloucesters.

  46. BayTampaBay says:

    Sometimes one must hang their head in shame and pay grudging respect to the Daily Fail.

    • Casey02 says:

      It why is fail supporting Rose?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        For attempting to put William in his place after William instigated the “Blackout” on Turnip Toffgate. As said somewhere above in a post, The press/media knows how to report something without actually reporting on it. Even the most loyal Royal Reporters do not like to be told what they can and/or cannot report on.

        This whole mess will eventually backfire on William unless another story comes along even more crazy where he is found (as USA politicians like to say) in bed with a live horse or dead woman.

  47. pierre lecouteur says:

    Rose looked fresh not heavy like waity

  48. MsIam says:

    Agree@Baron did not like Kate’s dress at all, although maybe it just did not photograph well. In this picture it reminds me of parlor room curtains. I think the white gown she wore to the BAFTA awards was much prettier than this. Maybe that one would have been too over the top though?

  49. A says:

    Of *course* Rose and David Cholmondeley are still in the royal fold. He’s the Lord Chamberlain. They’ll be invited to all of these events by default. Turning up for the event you’re supposed to be at anyway isn’t actually all that interesting, or as much of a win for Rose Hanbury if you ask me. They could very well still get sidelined in other ways. And I can’t believe I’m siding with Kate on this, but the fact is, she’s still going to be Queen. That’s what matters to her the most. All of that breeding and lineage and none of those other girls made it except for her. She’s not seeing this as a loss, if you ask me.

    • Patty says:

      None of the other women wanted to be Queen. William tried and they all turned him and it down. Times have changed. And being a Queen simply because you married a man who would be King isn’t what most women aspire to; and that should be celebrated. Queen Elizabeth II is The Queen – she’s the monarch. She holds the cards and what’s left of Royal power. Being called Queen because your husband is the King / monarch is not the same at all.

      RE: Rose and Kate. There isn’t a winner or a loser because there isn’t a competition, lol.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Queen Consort and only if William doesn’t divorce her. See Diana.

  50. MLouise says:

    In the end, Rose story may end up the reason people will start to defend and understand Kate. I say this little win for whoever leaked this – may help Kate in the long run. It makes me want to side with her as I get the feeling she has to deal with a difficult and archaic system.

  51. Goofpuff says:

    I love Rose’s outfit and dislike Kate’s but I personally prefer sleek modern minimalism over doily girly so I am biased there. For those who think her look is too sexy – seriously? She is dressed fine for a state dinner. She showing as much boob as Kate and can we stop slut-shaming women who are dressed just fine for the occasion? Not everybody wants to look like a “innocent maiden”.

    • bitchyarchitect says:

      agreed. Cannot stand Kate’s dress she looks like one of those knit toilet doll paper covers. I love Rose’s dress- glamourous,minimal and sexy but don’t think its appropriate for a state dinner. But i think she looks Amazing in it. She is definitely making a statement. I also think she’s gorgeous maybe a little horsey but realize i’im in the minority here.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I think Rose plays up that “horsey” look. Why??? I do not have a clue or theory.

  52. ChattyCath says:

    I have that so called ‘debutante slouch’. It’s caused by osteopenia due to a decade of Anorexia Nervosa. Rose was attention seeking with that dress. She looked like the protagonist in the 1970s play ‘Abigail’s Party’.