Duchess Meghan wore navy Givenchy for her second Trooping the Colour

The official birthday of the British Sovereign, The Trooping of the Colour, London, UK.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex attended Trooping the Colour on Saturday. Trooping the Colour is the celebratory parade and airshow to celebrate the Queen’s (fake) birthday. Meghan was widely expected to attend, given that it’s only for a few hours and given that Kate generally shows up for it even when she’s on maternity leave. Meghan gave birth to baby Archie less than five weeks ago, and she’s widely expected to continue on her maternity leave for the rest of the summer, perhaps making a handful of scattered appearances for big things in the next few months. Private Archie did not attend, because duh, of course no royal couple brings a month-old baby to Trooping the Colour. Kids are generally brought out for this event when they’re one or two or even three years old.

Meghan wore Givenchy, a navy dress with white cap sleeves and a loose short-sleeved coat in navy. She paired the Givenchy ensemble with a Noel Stewart hat and a Givenchy purse. Many people believe that the diamond eternity band Meghan wore on her ring finger is a new piece – she wore it alongside her wedding band and diamond engagement ring. People think it was a “push present” from Prince Harry. Could be.

Meghan and Harry rode in the same carriage as the Duchess of Cornwall and Duchess of Cambridge, which I think is befitting their status within the royal family. Unfortunately, similar arrangements were not made for the balcony placement – for the second year in a row, Harry and Meghan were pushed to the far-back of the balcony. Joe Little, managing editor of Majesty, told People that the balcony placement made sense: “She was not as prominent perhaps as some people might have expected, but there’s a pecking order. There was no slight intended, but William being the older, more senior brother would go out [first] with his wife.” Ah, yes, the pecking order. The same pecking order that meant that the Duke of York got a prominent place beside the Queen, even though he’s further down the line of succession? That kind of pecking order? Or the kind of pecking order where the grandson of the Duke of Kent got more prominent placement than Harry and Meghan? I don’t know why these people just can’t admit that they get off on seeing Meghan shoved to the back.

British Royals attend Trooping The Colour - The Queen's official birthday parade

British Royals attend Trooping The Colour - The Queen's official birthday parade

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  1. LaraK says:

    She looks lovely except for the stupid hat.

    And yes her treatment continues to be racist AF.

    • Amy says:

      Navy is totally her colour but yes, the hat is not good. Maybe it’s just the placement rather than the design of the hat itself, but it makes her look like she’s got a massive forehead, which she definitely doesn’t.

      • My3cents says:

        I actually think she looks gorgeous in white. In both her wedding and Archie’s presentation she was in white and looked amazing, but maybe that was the glow as well…

      • Becks1 says:

        I think with her hair down the hat may have looked better.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        She still has to figure out headgear – that much is clear. (Kate has that on lockdown). I think Meghan needs to be looking at a completely different style of hat. The overly simply fascinators don’t do her justice, I don’t think. I think something softer and more feminine would suit her better.

      • Alice says:

        She actually kinda does…we have a couple of ladies in our family whose foreheads are not actually too big, as you say, but shaped a little more prominently. They get ribbed by the family as having “bumpers.”

      • BeanieBean says:

        Yeah, maybe perching the hat on the back of her head, ’60s style, would have worked better.

      • WineGrrl says:

        In my family we call ours a “fivehead” or “Tweety Bird head.” I don’t think she has a fivehead.

    • Harryg says:

      I like the hat, it’s sort of retro, but I also don’t really like it if that makes any sense. She’s always very cute though.
      I love this site and how it makes me learn new things, I had never heard of this parade before.

    • tempest prognosticator says:

      Maybe the hat makes her head look disproportionately small? It’s not quite right, but she looks nice.

    • Olenna says:

      @LaraK, I agree. Meghan is glowing, but that beautiful smile isn’t enough to overlook that tragic little hat. And, yes, the press just can’t pass up a chance to disparage her in one way or another.

      • Some chick says:

        Then again, saying this “tragic little hat” seems a bit of an oversteer.

        We all know Meghan can’t win, no matter what. It’s hardly “tragic.” She didn’t get it from the Salvation Army!

        I think she chose navy so as to complement Harry’s uniform. The various deep blues in the carriage photos look great.

        Kate wanted to pop with the butter yellow (and that awesome hat). Kate gets no gripes from me for any of it. I love that she’s repeating more. And also that she really does look as relaxed/happy as I can ever recall.

        Meghan also gets no gripes from me. I wasn’t a fan of the white sleeves (which are technically raglan rather than cap) but with the wrap on, she looked elegant and lovely, and very happy to be there with Harry.

        WRT gloves (mentioned in another comment): Camilla is wearing gloves *right there on the balcony*! I know Camilla has been a bit of the iconoclast, but I don’t think gloves are especially new or controversial. Any port in a storm, I suppose.

        Also, Camilla’s suitdress is FINE. She’s what, like 70? Sheesh. I don’t even like her much, but her lewk is perfectly fine here.

      • Yami says:

        Yeah, the tragedy is this comment. Meghan is adorable and the hat suits her so well. The girl would have to work hard to look bad in this hat. It’s just neat and unobtrusive.

    • Taster says:

      You guys are blaming short kids for being in front now? Wow what racist children I guess those are, you think, if you’re a loon.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Yes, exactly. The kids were in front so that they could see & be seen.

      • Mrs F says:

        Exactly, all the kids get up front so they can see and the Queen was surrounded by her children. I’m sure when she’s gone, Andrew, Anne & Edward will be much less prominent and William and Harry will be up close to their dad. Then Harry & Meghan will be closer to the front. Eventually, although some people here have a really hard time with it, Harry and Meghan will also become less prominent because the Cambridge kids will steal the limelight.

      • Yami says:

        Literally, no one has mentioned anything about kids uptrend until you did. Sounds like you just wanna be outraged and complain about something.

      • madthinking says:

        I read there isn’t an actual plan for how they stand, but there is a pecking order. However, I think the adults try to have all the kids up front to see. Then you end up with those kids parents trying to be near their kids. I think Meghan and Harry end up in the back largely cause they are nice, and allow the parents near their kids. I think whenever Archie does go, they will be more visible. Probably next year, but I wouldn’t be totally surprised if he didn’t make an appearance then either. I feel they may want him to be a little more private. The only thing I did notice this year is the Queen’s adult children seemed to circle her a bit more. Which with her age this is nice.

        I know Meghan gets so much racist treatment, I just don’t think this is it. Now negative, I don’t like the navy outfit. I think Meghan looks well and pretty, and she does look good in navy. I just don’t like it for this occasion. They all looked very happy in the carriage though. Will Harry ever have to ride horseback on this though?

    • jj says:

      I did not like the hat, don’t know if it is the shape or color but I wish she would pick another style.

      • minx says:

        Meghan has a petite head and features and she needs help with hats.

      • Amanduh says:

        That hat is skeeving me out! I don’t know what material it is but all those little lines in it make it look like some kind of alien/reptile egg sack or something? Lol. Maybe its made of snake skin or alligator and its just the way the light is hitting it but I’m grossed out.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Really, Amanduh? Many of the royal ladies hats are made out of sewn straw like that, have been for decades. It is the basis for most of their hats. Go back and look through years of Royal Ascot.

      • Yami says:

        Right, it’s ridiculous. Amanduh and co, are just fishing now and not even being sophisticated about it. You guys need to reach a little harder.

      • madthinking says:

        American’s just don’t wear hats a lot. I think almost every American woman would need help in that foray. It’s not horrid though, just kind of blah and doesn’t add to her appearance. It most certainly could have been worse.

  2. Louise says:

    I really dont like how Givenchy dresses her. That was a heavy color for the weather. Its been nice weather here.

    • Cerys says:

      I thought it was a bit dark too given that it is midsummer and everyone else seemed to be in light shades.
      The balcony is getting ridiculously crowded. All the distant cousins should not be there. It should beconfined to the monarch, children, spouses, grandchildren etc now.
      Andrew is in a prominent position because he is usually the queen’s plus 1 since Phillip retired.

      • Eliza says:

        Trooping is for the Queens birthday. She’s in her 90s so has 4 generations of family around. I think she genuinely enjoys having her extended family there.

        When Charles is king it will be much smaller and Harry, Meghan and Archie will be in the front.

      • Still_Sarah says:

        And it is widely rumoured that Andrew is the Queen’s favourite child.

      • mint says:

        Plus he is the Colonel of the colour that was trooped

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I think I read somewhere that Prince Andrew, Duke of York acts as Philips surrogate as Charles has a “place” with his wife. Andrew is the only “single” senior royal so it makes sense to me and there is the fact, previously stated, that Andrew is her favorite.

      • Lunde says:

        Surely Andrew got a more prominent place because it was one of his regiments that was trooping their colour this year. he was interviewed on the TV news the day before about it being a special honour to be the Colonel in Chief.

    • Millennial says:

      I don’t really like how Givenchy dresses her either. Seems like the fit is always a tad off. And they don’t understand flattering proportions IMO. Like, never put a nursing mother in anything that widens the shoulders, because the boobs are already bigger than normal.

      • Lunde says:

        The outfit seemed very heavy for a big spring event but I think it was the coat – what I saw of the dress on the balcony looked better. I think it can very very difficult to dress for formal events just after giving birth.

      • Yvette says:

        @Lunde, if Meaghan is nursing Archie, the dark color is to prevent milk leaks from showing. That commonly happens.

    • Bella DuPont says:

      I hate to agree with you, but I do. I don’t want to judge too harshly since she’s on maternity leave, but I genuinely think they can do much better for her. She has such a sweet, pretty face and a good figure, so why do they always (or mostly) manage to make her look so……not sure what the right word here is…..but they can definitely do better.

      I think she just needs a really experienced, top of the range stylist to take her style from 6/10 to as close to 10/10 as possible. It shouldn’t be difficult, she already has the basic ingredients necessary.

      • Chica71 says:

        Sophie Wessex approach to dressing is spot on. She mixes and matches designers and always look appropriate. Meghan just need the younger clothing. Needs to stop drowning in the couture labels.

      • Deedee says:

        Matronly. She looks matronly.

      • entine says:

        I think the matronly looks intended. Must be comfortable, and does not “steal” the spotlight of the heirs’ wives.

      • notasugarhere says:

        It took Sophie years to get to this point. She started out in terrible 90s and early 2000s power suits, weird colour blocking, and bad hats. Really bad, Mad Hatter kind of bad hats.

      • ytmer says:

        She is shortish and has a delicate frame. She presumably likes sweeping modern lines but her clothes drown her and hang weirdly. She needs stuff with smaller features, like that McQueen fitted tux.

      • Yami says:

        Sophie has worn some howlers. Even one has forgotten the pink cowl neck of doom, I see. She’s hardly a paragon.

    • Megan says:

      The shape and cut of the dress are incredibly unflattering on such a petite woman. She needs to find another go to designer because Givenchy just can’t get it right.

      • Still_Sarah says:

        Agreed. It may be a nice outfit but not on her.

      • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

        The shape and cut would be fine IF she was at her “normal” weight. It’s her nursing boobs that makes the top part of the dress look like she’s a linebacker. A larger chest (whether from nursing or nature) does not look it’s best in a high neck, or even a boatneck. This same dress, with a small-to- med. V neck would change this immediately.

        I also don’t think those white capulet sleeves gave any “relief” from the starkness of the navy. Perhaps, if she paired this with a WHITE hat, with navy feathers, it might’ve given the outfit a “lighter” look?

        As for the navy…perhaps she chose this color in case she “leaks”? A wet stain wouldn’t show immediately or as prominently as on a lighter colored outfit?

      • ToiFilles says:

        @(TheOG) Like minds. I too thought a white hat w/ navy accent would lighten the look and echo the color blocking of the dress underneath. Also heavy, the navy leather gloves spotted in one pic. Navy kid or cotton would have been more season appropriate.

      • minx says:

        To my eye—it’s early June, we had a long brutal winter, I want to see light or colorful clothes. Even white or beige if you don’t want to do color. I said in the other thread about Kate’s yellow dress that yellow looks so fresh to me now. I was shopping with my daughter yesterday, she had to buy a casual dress. She tried on some flowered ones with navy and black backgrounds. Then she tried on and bought a yellow floral one and it just popped! Looks beautiful.

      • Tourmaline says:

        I bet she will stick with Givenchy though for a lot of her big occasion wear. It’s analogous to Kate and Alexander McQueen, making your wedding gown designer your most favored go-to. Seems Meghan has the same kind of relationship with Claire Waight Keller (sp?) that Kate has had with Sarah Burton.

      • Yvette says:

        Wow. Meaghan gave birth 5-weeks ago and still hasn’t gotten her pre-pregnancy body back. If the outfit is a size or two larger that’s probably because it’s more comfortable for her after recently giving birth. The dark color will hide any milk leaks from showing and therefore won’t provide embarrassing photos to gleeful British Tabs.

    • Bella Bella says:

      But she blends in so well with the carriage and therefore doesn’t pull focus from what’s-her-name!

      • KidV says:

        That made me snort. LOL

      • Some chick says:

        I have a feeling that coordinating and not pulling focus in the carriage ride may actually have been very much a part of the point. After all, it was her first public appearance since the baby. So you know the knives will be out! I think they’re lovely pics. Doesn’t matter what she wears on the balcony, as she’ll be in back. Working it for the carriage ride is probably what I’d have done in her case.

        Also, I cannot believe we’ve sunk to the level of critiquing the type of leather used in her gloves. *EYEROLL* (Prince level!)

      • Yami says:

        People would love that, but Meghan draws attention to whatever she wears where ever she is. The shouts as she passed in the procession was a testament to that. Not that it matters since Meghan is about the work and not the clothes.

    • minx says:

      Agree, she’s so pretty but the whole look was too heavy and dark. Not a fan.

      • Rina says:

        I agree, Minx. The dress and coat are too dark and heavy. Meghan needs to find designers and stylists who will do justice to her needs.

        She is very pretty! Looks a lot her beautiful mum, Doria.

      • Himmiefan says:

        Yeah, she looked great, but I do prefer her hair and outfit from last year. Meghan looked much more relaxed this year; last year she looked terrified – and I would be too!

        Meghan’s very much on display on the balcony. Anne and Edward are much more back and behind others.

      • JanetDR says:

        Yep! I don’t think this suits her at all, too big, too dark. I can’t wait for her to find her hat groove, because this is not it. Nice to see Meghan out and about though!

    • Snappyfish says:

      I agree. I thought the look was cumbersome & heavy. When I saw the white capped sleeves it lightened it up a bit but the carriage looked swallowed her. The hat doesn’t suit her at all. I’m a horse girl so at times I have to “don the occasional derby hat” & I know that I have to go with a brim as cloches don’t work on my head/face. She will find her style in time

    • notasugarhere says:

      It is a good neutral outfit, nothing to stand out and draw attention. Designed to be comfortable sitting in a carriage 5 weeks after giving birth, for a shape that is changing every day.

      When you look closely, it is a similar fabric to the green, dark blue, and pink (tragic ruffled one with open back) dresses Sophie wore the last few years to Ascot or the Trooping. It looks heavy until you realize it is a silk crepe.

      • MrsBanjo says:

        Also, Lady Louise wore the same colour. People are bringing up Sophie to contrast as an example to of how Meghan should have done, yet Sophie’s daughter is wearing the same shade as Meghan, so clearly the colour isn’t an issue for them.

      • notasugarhere says:

        They’re forgetting how awful Sophie’s outfit was last year when claiming Sophie always gets it right. The pink with the high ruffle neck but open yoke? Bad.

      • Alice says:

        Notasugarhere Yes, it looks heavy in photos. Her wedding dress looked the same. Heavy and dull, but it must have been beautiful in person. The fabric of her wedding dress reminded me on my Catholic school days with the nuns/brothers’ tunics made from heavy-looking, opaque fabric and visible seams. That type of clothing is fine for the religious because it has to be durable and last for years. One would think the designer would have taken how the wedding dress would look in photos into consideration. If I were Meghan, I would try other designers, as someone mentioned already.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I loved her wedding dress. Simple, elegant, nod to an historic Givenchy design made for Audrey Hepburn for a photo shoot. Designed to skim not cling, suitable for carriage riding, walking, standing, and sitting without pinching. Made out of a silk cady that was sturdy-enough to hold the design without being too warm for May temps. Perfect for the scale of the Chapel but the family nature of the wedding IMO. One of my fav royal wedding gowns, up there with Lady Sarah, Mette-Marit, and Maxima.

      • Gingerbee says:

        @Nota, I also loved the simplicity of Meghan’s wedding dress. People are complaining that black/navy are too heavy for spring. I have a few black and navy skirts that I wear during the summer, and guess what, it is perfectly fine, because the materials are lightweight. I also loved those other royal ladies dresses, and Crown Princess Victoria’s.

    • BeanieBean says:

      I think navy & white are classic summer colors. When has that ever been NOT the case?

      • Nic919 says:

        Aren’t Breton tops white and navy and worn in the summer? But of course different rules for different folks. Considering Lady Louise is also wearing navy blue the entire argument that it’s not an appropriate colour is ridiculous. I don’t particularly love the hat, but the dress isn’t inappropriate. She’s one month post delivery and obviously breast feeding. The fact she isn’t out there in a mumu is stylish enough for me.

      • Yami says:

        Since Meghan is half black and has the audacity to live and love and now be a member of the royal family. I am pretty sure that’s when navy became anathema.

    • MsIam says:

      Navy and white are a pretty classic combo for spring and summer here in the US. Especially for adults, not everyone prefers to wear the Easter egg colors for spring.

  3. Becks1 says:

    I thought she looked nice, I feel like she was doing some low key trolling with the dress. “You didn’t like my shoulders last year?? Well then, how’s this??”

    There’s def not a pecking order for standing on the balcony so it cracks me up that some keep insisting there is. Kate and will are at the front with the kids, which makes sense. I think it’s kind of odd that Meghan, for the second year in a row, is shoved to the back, but I wonder if she does get a little nervous like someone suggested here this week.

    • IlsaLund says:

      Yes, I agree. I thought Meghan did look lovely. And since it’s only been 5 weeks since Archie was born, I’ll give her a pass on her clothing. It’s nice to see that she still looks like a woman who’s recently giving birth and hasn’t started starving herself to get back to her pre pregnancy weight.

      • minx says:

        I think she looks even more beautiful with a little weight on her face. She looks extremely happy.

      • BabaBlacksheep says:

        @minx I agree. I’m not her biggest fan but she looks lovely with a little extra weight. I think if she wore her hair down or looser it would have elevated her look and made the whole look less, I don’t know if severe is the right word but it’s the only one coming to mind.

      • notasugarhere says:

        With the baby weight, she looks a whole lot like cute Mama Doria.

      • Alice says:

        Baba black sheep You are right girl!

    • notasugarhere says:

      I like that shoulders idea, Becks1!

      • Alice says:

        Yes, I did like the shoulders too. We know as a new mama that there’s boob so having a larger, looser cut that glides along the bust is a good idea to not have the bosom too prominently displayed. I just don’t care for the navy blue, the severe hair and the had plastered over a forehead without even a wisp of hair showing. I really believe Meghan needs a designer who specializes in dressing petites…petite body frame, petite head, etc. Certainly she has the funds, why has no one (the dressers, stylists) suggested that? Or, maybe they tried but she chooses what she likes.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I like most of what she’s worn in the last 18 months and think the outfits have been well-suited to her petite frame. Didn’t like the blue floral one from Morocco or a couple of the other print choices, but otherwise I’ve liked most of them. I like her better in plain fabrics, not prints, along the lines of Letizia during the Crown Princess years.

        I’m not a hat fan in general, except for Camilla’s Edwardian creations.

    • Moose says:

      But she’s not been shoved to the back! She is just standing behind some kids so they can see as they are shorter than her. Meghan is clearly visible, whereas Anne isn’t…

      • Becks1 says:

        Yeah I keep looking at pictures and it seems that what others said makes sense – Harry likes to be in that general spot. In some pictures she looks farther back than others, so maybe there was some shifting.

        Honestly I think besides the queen and Charles no other royal prob cares as much about the balcony position as the people watching. I think we all read too much into it.

        There did not seem to be any tension like there was last year.

    • BeanieBean says:

      It seemed to me when the Queen, followed by Charles & Andrew, first came out, she & the others we looking down, as though to find their markers. Kate seemed to do the same thing. I think somebody has already planned out where they’re supposed to stand, but I think it would be helpful to have someone directing then left or right, far left or far right, etc.

  4. Neiledown says:

    I’m glad Kate & the rest of the Cambridge family were on the opposite side of the balcony to Meghan & Harry. At least it saves us from comments about how Kate purposely blocked Meghan by wearing heels and a big hat!

    Funny thing is we did not get a great shot on the balcony of Meghan this year either! So who to now blame…

    • Jegede says:

      😏😏😉😉

    • Bella DuPont says:

      @ Nielde

      At least at this event, she doesn’t look like an angry, sour faced soldier like she did last year. So it’s a win for everyone. :-)

    • PrincessK says:

      Harry and Meghan deliberately stand at the back. They did that last year. The Sussexes know that at any public gathering of the royals they will always be the headline news. Meghan also deliberately wears darker colours to allow the Queen and Kate to shine. But it makes no jot of difference. Meghan standing at the back still even pushed sweet Louis off some of the pages. His debut was supposed to be front page news.

      Can’t wait to see Archie on the balcony. I wonder if he was taken to the Palace or if he was left at Windsor, my feeling is that he was in the Palace with a nanny.

      • Fiffy says:

        I think you’re overstating the attention Meghan got on this day. People payed attention cuz it’s the first time people have seen her in five weeks. I really don’t think Will’s family would be fading anytime soon. What front pages was Louis kicked off of if you don’t mind me asking?

      • Jegede says:

        @PrincessK

        Huh?🤨

        Louis was not kicked off any front pages.

        Not in the UK anyway.

      • liriel says:

        I think people here hate Cambridges with passion while claiming others hate Meghan! Comparing a kid with Meghan, attention they’re getting. I don’t think Meghan was “hiding” not to steal thunder. No, I still think the whole family got headlines.

      • PrincessK says:

        One would have expected the first appearance of Prince Louis to make ALL the UK front pages, but Meghan’s first public appearance since giving birth was chosen by at least half of the newspapers. Check it out.

      • Fiffy says:

        No, they wouldn’t have expected that. There are UK newspapers who don’t have much of a focus on the royal family.
        I’ve checked out the Telegraph (who always suck up to royalty) and the main headline is about Boris Johnson, with a few headlines down having an opinion piece about the royal family and Donald Trump.
        The Guardian: Again, Boris Johnson and Michael Gove
        ITV News: “Prince Louis steals the show at the Queen’s Birthday”, Michael Gove, Boris Johnson.
        BBC News: One of the most watched videos is “Prince Louis makes waves at parade” with other headlines having nothing to do with Meghan.
        I think this is a pretty wide scope.
        I understand that it was yesterday and the news cycle changes rapidly but you’re wrong in assuming the royal family is that relevant to every newspaper and that she stole headlines.

      • PrincessK says:

        Most of the newspapers had Trooping the Colour stories on their front page . The Sunday Express, Mirror and People all put Meghan on the front page, whereas l would have expected them to have gone with Louis like the others.

        I am just making an observation about the enormous interest in her and that she is the royal that sells the most papers and magazines right now.

      • Derriere says:

        A lot of you must have missed the only digital front page that matters to the UK: the Daily Fail.

        They deliberately posted articles with Meghan’s name front and center while leaving the Queen and Louis, etc. to side stories. Honestly it was really gross to see them intentionally yoke anger and hate towards Meghan for something of their doing. “uppity Meghan” “Meghan-me” “It’s always about Meghan” And she didn’t do anything extraordinary. She wore a basic outfit, stood at the back, was barely seen…and still can do no right.

      • PrincessK says:

        @Derriere…l totally agree. The problem is most of the people who read DM have minds so twisted and bitter that they fail to see how they are being manipulated. Quite dangerous actually.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Derrier: right. They put some snotty language into their comments, about she’s charging right out there, deliberately shorting her maternity leave & time with Archie in order to gain attention, so thirsty she is or some such. Why oh why do I bother to read captions?

      • Fiffy says:

        I was replying to a remark that mentioned a number of newspapers, not just the Daily Mail.
        @princessK: that doesn’t disprove my point as I said there were a lot of newpaper front pages that didn’t mention her. Those tabloids aren’t “most of the newspapers” either, they are ones that focus mainly on celebrity gossip.
        What makes you think the Daily Mail is the only one that matters to the UK? Could you clarify what you mean by this? The DM is know n to be sexist, racism – every ‘-ist’ and ‘-ism’ under the sun. The racism towards Meghan is a product of their already present abhorrent views, they’re meant to rile up the lowest denominator and they delete and downvote comments to suit these views. If you’re looking for general views on issues in the UK (including the monarchy), look at a wide range of newspapers and polls cuz the DM is extremely biased and intentionally edit their comment sections as they see fit

    • PrincessK says:

      @Fiffy….you need to look at circulation figures for both digital and non digital and then you can assess the media that is having the most influence. I find the Daily Mail dangerous these days, miles away from what it was 20/30 years ago.

  5. Kittycat says:

    That balcony needs to be trimmed down.

    There are too many people.

    But I can see why the Duke of York is prominently featured. He is the Queen’s favourite and has taken over a lot if Prince Philip’s roles.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Yes, I was thinking that – there were quite a few new faces. The smug OffMichaels should be the first to go.

    • Megan says:

      It’s the queen’s birthday and she doesn’t have that many left. If she wants the entire family to be there so be it.

    • buensenso says:

      he is the most handsome person in the royal family.

    • Scal says:

      He was the queens official escort for the event since Phillip didn’t attend so it made sense for him to be next to her. Still-love how he made sure he squared his shoulders and stepped up so he was right in front and the daughters were pushed to the back. Typical Andrew stunting

    • minx says:

      Agree, that’s a lot of people.

    • PrincessK says:

      I agree. The balcony needs to be thinned out. Edward and Sophie were completely not visible and blocked out at the back. But l think the Queen likes having her surviving cousins and their kids over. Interesting that there was no sign of Linley and Sarah, maybe that don’t feel it necessary to parade their families on the balcony.

      • BeanieBean says:

        I know, it looked like E&S had one foot in that room & one foot on the balcony!

  6. Cidy says:

    She looks lovely! She has such a bright smile it’s very infectious. I didnt think I would like the look from the description but she rocks it.

  7. tempest prognosticator says:

    Megan looks so much like her mother in these photos.

    • noodle says:

      YES! I was just thinking the same thing. copy of Doria.
      one question, why always Givenchy? Isn’t it expensive as heck?

      • Not A Troll says:

        I think the cost is a feature rather than a bug. Meghan has to know how many Brits get angry at how much she spent on clothes, yet….she keeps doing it. I think she does it on purpose.
        And I thought she looked very swollen, almost like she is on steroids. She doesn’t look 5 weeks postpartum.

      • Becks1 says:

        But no one is commenting on Kate’s custom McQueen.

      • Laughysaphy says:

        @notatroll: woah. Super rude comment about her being swollen. You’ve never been around a postpartum woman, hmm? She looks great for being 5 weeks out. Nice username 🙄

      • Gingerbee says:

        How much is Kate’s McQueen coatdress.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        As is bespoke McQueen and Katherine Walker. This is one thing that bothers me about both of them, the bespoke designer clothes. No real need for it. They should take a leaf out of Queen Letizia of Spains book – she makes Zara look better than it actually is (I like the brand but they have a rep for bad fits and poor quality).

      • Gingerbee says:

        Becks, no one commented on Kate’s dress, but with Meghan, it is always how much does it cost the UK taxpayers. SMFH

      • Gingerbee says:

        Not a Troll, get a grip, the freaking women gave birth five weeks ago. Do you want her to look like skin and bones.

      • Becks1 says:

        @DU – I do agree, their spending costs on clothes – for both Kate and Meghan – are ridiculous. And I think Meghan actually looks best in brands like j Crew. She should work in more of those pieces to her working wardrobe. I don’t really begrudge a bespoke dress for this particular occasion, but how many new McQueens have we seen Kate wear recently?

        And that’s what gets me – someone complaining about Meghan’s custom dress when Kate is there in yet another fairly boring McQueen that surely wasn’t cheap. Both can do better here.

      • Ann says:

        @notatroll She looks like she still has her fat face she had while pregnant. She gave birth a month ago. She didn’t go back to looking gaunt within a month, like most women. If I was a conspiracy theorist, which I am not, I would think it very odd and strange that someone goes from pregnant to almost emaciated in a month.

      • Olenna says:

        @Not A Troll, your comment about the steroids is unnecessary and insensitive. In fact, it’s almost word for word for one that was posted about a dozen times on Twitter by a former CBr who, BTW, absolutely hated Meghan. It’s obvious that, for certain people, a woman’s postpartum appearance is not off-limits to petty scrutiny.

      • Skipper says:

        She is paid to sell it so she has to wear it

      • Eyfalia says:

        @Skippy
        Wow, now she gets paid to sell the clothes. That’s a new turn. Who came up with this? She obvioulsy is not in prison for what was it again? Oh yes, high treason! Now she sells the clothes! rofl

      • notasugarhere says:

        Oh look, Skippy from tumblr is back on CB.

      • notasugarhere says:

        DU, Letizia wears more expensive clothes and more designer clothes now that she is Queen. The years of her being Crown Princess she wore Zara, but many of her dresses and evening gowns were custom pieces from Varela. Many hate him, but he’s made her custom outfits for years. Those didn’t come cheap.

      • Not A Troll says:

        I had three kids and never looked so puffy 5 weeks out. I’m not mocking her, I’m saying it looks like a medical issue. Take it as you may.
        And comparing Kate’s wardrobe to Meghan’s is apples and oranges. They obviously are in different positions in the royal family, regardless of how much Meghan’s fans wish otherwise. It’s like comparing the Queen’s wardrobe and crowns with Sophie’s. Different expectations. And Kate’s are generally British.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Sure, Jan, you’ve never heard of tumblr or that pack of idiots. Um hum.

        Try tallying up Kate’s dozen green floral day dresses and her 70+ coat dresses.

      • Tourmaline says:

        Ooh Not a Troll, you had three kids and never looked so puffy 5 weeks out. Well gold star to you and I can see you feel very proud of that accomplishment.

      • kerwood says:

        I wonder if the people who show so much concern about how much Megan spends (or is paid?!?!!?) are American. I’d be willing to bet most.

        As for her size, I’ve never been pregnant so I don’t know how easy it is to lose pregnancy weight. I’ve met women who claim they’re still losing pregnancy weight while their child runs around. I think Megan looks lovely and very happy. If she doesn’t feel the need the be a size 0 so soon after she’s given birth, shouldn’t that be celebrated?

        Personally, I think it’s better to be slim, but I thought we were supposed to encourage women to celebrate their bodies no matter what the size. Unless that woman is Megan, I guess.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        @ Very Much A Troll

        Some truly disgusting comments today. Well done!

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Skipper, “She is paid to sell it so she has to wear it”

        How do you know this? Could you please enlighten all of us here at CB because we love to Know? Do you work for the Duchess of Sussex?

  8. Robinda says:

    The Duke of York is the Queen’s favorite child, standing at the front is the very, very least of the benefits that go with that.

    I don’t know, is it better to be closer to the front, but farther down the line from the Queen, or is it better to be closer to her but behind the small kids? I don’t think Harry cares; he didn’t really look like he wanted to be there, at all, for most of it. Watched it with a Scottish friend and she declared him a pill. He did seem a bit of a grump for much of it.

    • Mumbles says:

      Yeah, I thought it’s better to be nearer the Queen rather than way down the end. And from what I can tell, the Sussexes’ placement was as good as the York princesses and better than the Phillipses. Yes, the Cambridges got better placement but this is what we should expect going forward, direct heirs blah blah blah, eyeroll. But as a grandchild of the queen, they are no worse situated than the other ones (other than Bill and Kathy).

      The Daily Mail May be racist against MM but I don’t see it in the family (other than loathsome Princess Michael).

      My big disappointment was that the Phillips kids were kept away from George and a Charlotte. They usually all get into some amusing mischief at these events.

    • DC Cliche says:

      Yeah, and I think the Andrew was the “official” escort today, now that Prince Philip is retired? He was less prominent in prior years but helps her out now.

    • Yup, Me says:

      He’s got a brand new baby at home. Maybe he’s tired?

    • Snappyfish says:

      Honestly, how can skivvy shady Andrew be anyone’s favorite?

      • notasugarhere says:

        He was the makeup baby after a rough patch.

      • Yami says:

        Right???? The thing that gets me these people have immense privilege and all they worry about is themselves. Andrew could have carved out a meaningful career for himself and instead gets busted pulling shady stuff, it’s so wasteful.

    • Chrissyms says:

      Hmm I always fancied Princess Anne as the favourite.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She the only daughter, special for that, but nobody’s fav. Andrew is the Queen’s, Edward is Prince Philip’s.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Are you sure about Edward being Philip’s favorite? I thought he was pretty angry with his son for quitting the army? Then again, maybe he wouldn’t have allowed anybody but his favorite to quit.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Royal Marines not the Army. Why can’t he be angry at his fav? Edward didn’t want to be in the military, went for the hardest training course, failed out (or injured knee, take your pick). It was either that or stand up to his father and say he didn’t want to do it.

        HM doted on Andrew, Philip doted on Edward. He wasn’t hard on Edward like he was on Charles the heir. Anne was the tomboy daughter who was more interested in horses than anyone else. HM was busy fussing over Andrew.

        Edward, like Philip, was the youngest in the family. The child he could take his time with, not have expectations about, and had once he had mellowed into his consort role. That’s why Edward is slated to be given the Duke of Edinburgh title, because it is Philip’s wish.

      • Himmiefan says:

        I thought Anne was Philip’s favorite.

      • Maria says:

        Also, Edward came almost 16 years after Charles. We can assume Phillip had mellowed a bit.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Anne is the child who is most like Philip as a person, but not his fav.

  9. Tanguerita says:

    her outfit should be burned, every single piece of it.

    • liriel says:

      this!!

    • LahdidahBaby says:

      Yes, I thought it was kind of an unfortunate look all around–hat, coat, dress, coiffure. Dark and somber and not spring/summery at all. It almost seemed as if Meghan was trying to look plainer so that maybe her haters would back off. Even her hair was plain, and earrings tiny. Is she doing this so that Kate gets all the eyes?

      All this said, her face looks very pretty, very like her mother.

    • Snowflake says:

      Yeah, I don’t like it and I normally love almost everything she wears

    • Flying fish says:

      I agree. The dress and jacket material looks cheap. The shade of blue did not work on her and the color seemed rather dark for the occasion. It really is time for her to move on from Givenchy!
      Fascinators do nothing her, in fact they make her look child like. Broad rim hats are more flattering on her.
      She looked happy and glowing…welcome back.

      • Chica71 says:

        She’s probably not ready to get back into everything 100%. Weight gain and leaky boobs. Criticism. This color let’s her fades into background.

      • Eyfalia says:

        Did you see the dress in full? If not, how do you know it looked cheap? The material definitely did not look cheap. Did you see the pockets in the jacket? Welt pockets, nice!

      • ytmer says:

        You can see the skirt seam in the carriage photos. It’s pulling the fabric and it looks cheap. Not a reflection on Meghan, just Givenchy.

      • BabaBlacksheep says:

        @fish totally agree with everything you said. Especially about the hats. She looks very elegant and regal in wide brimmed hats. Fascinators make her look like a kid playing dress up

      • Alice says:

        Flying fish I agree with the colors. Navy blue is my favorite color but I have olive skin like Meghan’s and I always add white, or some other color around the face. And, I wear color lipsticks, like red, etc. for which I always get compliments. I don’t care for the nude lip on women, unless, as mentioned, there’s other colors. I saw a picture of Meghan with a brighter lip color and she was sooo much prettier. That particular look got lots of compliments for her from commenters too. Since she wears tons of bronzer/blush, her lip shade can go brighter/stronger in hue. It’s almost like she’s afraid not to do what the “Hollywood” crowd does, but she’s not blond…whatever. Meghan has full lips which is another reason to show those puppies since women pay a lot for lip enhancement and she’s got it naturally. Her friend Priyanka does a colored lip and she rocks the heck out of every picture she’s in IMHO.

      • Anitas says:

        I so agree about the colour, I saw the clip of her carriage ride and the outfit seemed more appropriate for a funeral.

    • buensenso says:

      absolutely. she looks ridiculous in it. she is beautiful and could wear something that suits her character and vibe.

      • violet says:

        @buensenso – This! I keep remembering how outstanding she looked on the tour in coral and blue. I know because I remember it personally that if you’re breastfeeding, there can be milk leakage and dark colors show that less, but there are other choices besides navy which I think is her absolute worst color. I think she totally underestimates how nice she looks in the powder and sky blues.

      • Anitas says:

        @violet
        Interestingly, I found I had to avoid solid dark colours altogether as they really showed up any leaking AND especially baby spit – anything with a colourful pattern was much more forgiving at hiding stains.

    • broodytrudy says:

      It was so bad and I wish she’d cut it a bit with the navy. I have no actual evidence of this but my own memory, but it feels like she wears a lot of navy, right? She looks lovely in brighter colors, and much like Kate, could do with more jewel tones.

    • Jo says:

      I so agree, this Givenchy is just not good. The jacket reminds me of navy scrubs and the dress with the white cap sleeves looks like a baseball t-shirt, just terrible. And I really like navy, and am always rooting for Meghan, but not one thing about this outfit works. She needs to ditch the Givenchy and find some new designers.

      • Harlow4 says:

        The dress is horrible and ill fitting. She is dressed like an old spinster. She looks like she is chubby and miserable. The hat is absolutely awful. She needs to get back on track with her appearance. Givenchy is way to old to dress her.

    • Deedee says:

      Too true. I would be pissed, too, if my taxes paid for such a horrendous outfit.

    • Himmiefan says:

      Yeah, Meghan needs to back off on the navy and other dark colors. She wore a bright yellow dress to an event not long after they got married, and she looked stunning in the color.

      • notasugarhere says:

        If she’d worn a bright colour to this, she’d have been attacked for drawing attention.

    • Yami says:

      I think this comment should be burnt for having no sense.

  10. Wendy says:

    She does look so much like her mother since the last trimester and now postpartum, she was always beautiful but now has an extra glow that just blares happiness.
    The hat needs to be burned, couldn’t see enough of the dress to have an opinion except the white seems too stark.

    Her smile is really the only accessory she needs these days, she looks amazing.

  11. Jegede says:

    The Duke of York was front and centre because it was he is head of the regiment, The Grenadier Guards.

    He is colonel of this regiment who were featured in this year’s Trooping the Color.

  12. magnolia says:

    Charles, Andrew, and William each had active roles as Royal military colonels in the parade. Harry and Meghan were not snubbed. You could make a very good argument Anne was snubbed. Even Edward who was barely visible. No one knows how many more Troopings the Queen has left. If would have been nice for her children and direct heirs to be front and centre. Those are the photos that will have historical significance.

    • windyriver says:

      Anne is also a colonel, of the Blues and Royals. She was in uniform, and rode alongside Charles, Andrew, and William. The BBC commented she was probably the best horseperson of the bunch.

      On the balcony, she was standing just behind the queen. In the picture on the other post, she’s clearly visible, talking to Charles. Unlike her brothers and William, all in red, her uniform is navy, so perhaps she’s not as noticeable.

      • Lightpurple says:

        Anne competed at the Olympics and won medals in other horse riding events.

      • magnolia says:

        Sorry, I didn’t word it clearly. I saw where Anne was located and am aware of her role as Royal colonel, but thought she should have been behind the children on the other side of Andrew. Would have been nice to see more of her in uniform on the balcony. Also would have given Edward room to scooch forward a bit more.

      • Deedee says:

        Anne looked absolutely wonderful in her picture riding her horse.

    • Chaine says:

      Can anyone help me understand why Harry is not also a colonel or having some kind of role? He actually served in military in active combat unlike most of them.

      • PrincessK says:

        I am sure he will be a colonel eventually . Maybe take over from Anne or some other one that becomes vacant. Harry will be on horseback during the Trooping of the colour at some stage.

  13. Ainsley7 says:

    The order is: direct heirs and then by order of precedence/ small children in the front. The order of precedence is how closely the person is related to the Queen. So, all her kids come before Harry because he’s only her grandson. Your importance is also shown by how close you are standing to the Queen not how easily you can be seen. That’s why all her close family is piled up behind her and the extended family can be seen more easily. It’s a silly way to do it considering most people don’t care about the extended family and would prefer to see the actual royals. Harry and Meghan will have a much better position if they bring Archie with them next year.

  14. Lesanne says:

    Methinks that the balcony is crowded since the family may fear that each year may be the Queen last appearance. It has to be heartbreaking for her family no matter how conflicted their relationship is with her (Charles). The Queen also may be requesting everyone appear for the same reason.

    • FredsMother says:

      Queen Betty will live to be 100. Unless the Greek dies in the next year or so.. As long as she has Phil, she’s gonna keep calm and carry-on

      Meghan’s face morphed into Ms. Doria’s after giving birth. She looks youthful and content. That outfit is ugly as sin. I hope Meghan does not start dressing like these anachronistic old fools in ugly hats and overpriced coat dresses. It’s 2019, old lady fuddy duddy is not the look, man. There is conservative and professional but it does not have to be represented by the ugly pastel coat frocks and beflowered hats. Gah!! I hope Meghan looks more to Letizia of Spain for style inspiration. Or better yet, look at Cate Blanchett.

      • BeanieBean says:

        He’s really a Dane, Greek by geography & weird geopolitics.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I assume that was a sideways way of attacking Prince Philip. That’s what some of his critics used to call him decades ago, as inaccurate as it was.

  15. Jean says:

    A number of years ago I read that Prince Harry likes to stay at the back on the balcony scene. Apparently, he always stays at the back. He is encouraging Duchess Meghan to do the same thing. I tend to believe that. I don’t believe family members are told where to stand but they all know that they should stand behind the Queen. Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan will move closer to the front when Baby Archies joins the scene and stands at the front as kids do. They will want to watch over him and any more kids they may have. I refuse to read anything in the balcony order other than each family members personal choice.

    • Eyfalia says:

      Harry and Meghan standing at the back is most probably due to security.

      • BabaBlacksheep says:

        Really? You think they need more security than the Queen and her direct heirs? Please give me your sources for that belief.

    • violet says:

      I agree with this. I think it’s a given that the first and second in line and their wives and kids will be toward the front next to the Queen and everyone else will kind of line up in no particular order behind them. Harry is sixth in line, and while Andrew is eighth, he’s also the Queen’s son, Harry is her grandson. I think people read too much into this. The only thing that stood out to me about the Sussexes is that Harry looked incredibly grumpy and like he wished he were home watching football. And there were a couple of moments on the balcony where it looked like he kind of snapped at her and she looked as if she were going to cry. I always thought he was a spoilt brat. I know it’s all supposed to be Fairy Tale City and the luxury and status are nice, I guess, but I wouldn’t want to be married to him. Meghan and Kate probably have more in common than we (or perhaps even they) know: they both have had to develop strategies to deal with highly entitled husbands after buying into the Royal Romance s**t.

      • Eyfalia says:

        You say the first in line and his kids. The first in line is Charles and Harry is his kid. So Harry should be at the front as well.
        Please give me a link to the photos where Harry is snapping and Meghan nearly crying. I saw her smiling all the time. And Harry was laughing with Jack. But maybe I saw a different balcony scene. 8)

      • violet says:

        @Eyfalia – Actualy, I said the first AND second in line, which is Charles and William and THEN their kids, and THEN Harry. Harry is 6th line. Charles, William, George, Charlotte, and Louis, are all in front of Harry in the line of successoin. Re the snapping, I don’t know how to post links, but at one point it looked like she turned around to say something to him and he snapped, “Turn around,” and she did and looked really unhappy. I don’t want to make too much of it, as I’m not a lip reader, but when I saw her face I wanted to reach out and slap him sideways. She gets props for not losing her cool and straightening up and looking ahead. I just have to say that the more I see of Harry the less I like him.

      • Eyfalia says:

        You saw all this on your computer? Wow!
        Nevertheless, first in line is Charles and then his kids would be Harry.

      • Eyfalia says:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlT4ToGhrKM

        This is the video with the scene you are talking about. Meghan spoke and turned to him when they were playing the anthem. So he told her to turn around and pointed sort of with his eyes to the Queen. He was right to do that.

      • Olenna says:

        The video is also posted on today’s KM thread @ about 1:20. The exchange was not unpleasant or demanding. As Eyfalia said, he was doing the right thing.

      • Enn says:

        Violet, I watched a couple of times and she’s blinking a lot, which can be construed as trying not to cry. Maybe her eyes were dry, maybe she’s emotional, maybe she just felt a gush of letdown and wanted to gtfo the balcony before her dress got stained.

        We have no idea what was actually at play so I think it can be viewed through a multitude of lenses.

      • Skipper says:

        Yes I felt sorry for her he snapped at her twice and told her to turn around when she tried to speak to him

      • PrincessK says:

        The interesting thing is that DM have an article about Rose Hanbury today….DM has now decided that it wants to fuel rumours about Wandering Willy playing in the Rose Bush.

        I wonder what has caused them to decide to increase speculation rather than dampen it, as in previous weeks?

      • PrincessK says:

        I have just watched the video. Harry was having a conversation with someone, and Meghan was joining in. When the anthem started he told her to turn around. No problem with that. He knows that all eyes are on her, looking for things to criticise, so his actions were protective, and she knows.

        At the end she was all smiles and talking to the kids.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        I watched it a few times and Harry is not snapping, he’s trying to be discreet in letting her know to turn around as the National Anthem is about to start – chatting or not facing the front when this is being played in the presence of TQ is a big no no. She did look a bit emotional but considering she’s just had a baby am sure she’s feeling very emotional – its normal.

      • Eyfalia says:

        @Skippy
        Quit it! He did not even once snap at her. Your mind is playing you tricks again.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Skippy is playing tricks, not Skippy’s mind. There is no snapping or near crying between Harry and Meghan.

        Tumblr must be boring Skippy today, that’s why she’s trolling here on CB.

      • Gingerbee says:

        @skipper, go back to commenting on the daily fail.

      • Himmiefan says:

        I didn ‘t see anything negative about their interaction.

      • kerwood says:

        I had a look at the video and paid close attention because I was ready to read Harry for filth if he had snapped at her!. I saw him say ‘turn around’ and cut his eyes to the Queen. When Megan turned to him he did it again. Megan faced front and put on her ‘serious and respectful’ face. There were no tears and he most definitely didn’t snap at her. They were holding hands as they left the balcony so I’m guessing that all is well between them. As usual.

        I know some people are hoping and praying that Harry tosses Megan and her ‘mixed’ baby into the streets (probably so they can have a better chance at him, HAH!) but I don’t think God is going to answer those prayers.

      • Himmiefan says:

        Look at some of the videos on Youtube. At the end, Meghan looks happy, curtseys to the Queen, and briefly chats with Edward’s son and one of Anne’s granddaughters as they go on.

      • Yami says:

        You know what I feel sorry about? The rumors about #princewilliamsaffairs! Can you imagine the humiliation of spending 10 years of your life waiting for a man to marry you and then he steps out on you, even tho you have 3 kids! The humiliation!

      • notasugarhere says:

        William stepped out on Kate frequently during those 10 years of waiting, but she still chose to marry him Yami.

      • Chrissyms says:

        I think now that Harry has a family, he has started to resent his public life and the gossip even more then he used too. He looks visibly uncomfortable at most events and it seems he can’t shake the scrutiny. I don’t really blame him seeing how he lost his mother. I know his duty is too public life, but still…it must be hard for him in that respect.

      • Becks1 says:

        It looks to me like he said “turn around” a split second before the anthem started. Meghan might not have realized it was about to start.

        It’s not like someone had to tell her to stand up straight and pay attention or anything. Shrug.

    • Himmiefan says:

      I’m so scared of heights that I’d stand in the back of the room behind them! That’s close enough!

      • minx says:

        Same here, I would freak out. I’d be in back saying, are we done now? Can we go?

      • minx says:

        Same here, I would freak out. I’d be in back saying, are we done now? Can we go?

      • minx says:

        Same here, I would freak out. I’d be in back saying, are we done now? Can we go?

      • minx says:

        Same here, I would freak out. I’d be in back saying, are we done now? Can we go?

      • minx says:

        Sorry for all these posts! Trying to cancel them.

      • Lady D says:

        Hey, I know exactly how you feel, Minx, I don’t even stand on kitchen chairs. I find climbing flights of stairs terrifying unless I have a railing to hang onto. I don’t do elevators. I’ve tried 3 times to learn how to ride horses, and I just can’t do it. I am far too high off the ground. It’s really quite debilitating for me.

  16. hoopjumper says:

    Like the outfit, like the hat, absolutely love how she always seems to be enjoying herself.

  17. liriel says:

    Agree about Duke of York.
    It’s refreshing that Meghan still looks she gave birth 5 weeks ago. No shade but she didn’t bounce back.
    But..
    Her hat is terrible and her outfit as well – too dark for the summery event, she looks too sombre and it ages her.

    • Yami says:

      It wasn’t super sunny in London. Lady Louise wore navy blue too. Meghan looked great!

  18. violet says:

    I’m sorry, I thought Meghan looked awful. Navy is a terrible color for women who are all over earth tones, it adds nothing and deprives those tones of their vibrancy, and I thought the long black leather gloves, were . . .what? It was warm and humid in London, and it’s a late-spring birthday celebration. And the dress looked like it came from Macy’s, not Givenchy. And Harry looked really, really out of sorts, who knows why. Cutting slack for post-baby weight and all that, but still – one of Meghan’s least appealing looks.

    • Eyfalia says:

      It was not warm and humid in London when the parade started. They said it was raining in the morning and it was cold. Her gloves were a matching blue, not black. Did you see her dress? I could not find any pictures of the complete dress. Would like to see it, do you have a link? Yes, it is post-baby weight and she is breastfeeding. Maybe that is why she opted for blue. And she looked happy and very pretty.

      • violet says:

        @Eyfalia – were they blue? They registered black on my computer – her little clutch looked almost greenish. But I was referring to her clothes, not her acutal physical self, when I said she looked awful. As another poster said, she looked almost sombre, not at in tune with the event or the season. And I agree with another poster on the thread who said Meghan should ditch Givenchy – I just don’t think their stuff is showing her off. The dress underneath had white cap sleeves that were also awful. I will stand up against any criticism of women for looking like they gave birth a month ago (and for criticising women who are better at bouncing back, every woman is different and carries differently and recovers differently) – but selection of colors and design is down to the individual woman, especially when they can spend pretty freely. Perhaps she does feel sensitive about the baby weight, I’m not unaware of that, and women tend to turn to dark colors when they feel that way. I hope she didn’t feel that way.

      • Eyfalia says:

        Of course she is sensitive about her baby weight. She worked in the film industry where looks are everything. Do you have a link with photos of the dress?
        I watched it on a flat screen TV and did not see the dress in full. Neither did Harry give the impression of snapping at her and she never not even once looked like she was nearly crying.

  19. Marigold says:

    She’s two people away from the Queen with a child (a short person) in front of her. Why the outrage?

    • Eyfalia says:

      Exactly, she was closer to the Queen than Kate. :D

    • Olenna says:

      IKR. Where this couple stands is not a BFD.

    • Deedee says:

      Yes, I thought she had a very good spot, close to the queen and good vantage spot where she could appreciate the exploits without someone being in her way.

    • Nic919 says:

      This is the second year she attends and she is standing at the same spot. I’m sure if she wanted to move further ahead Harry would have arranged that. It looks like she lets the young kids go up front regardless of their rank. If Archie is there next year then we will see better shots of the baby.

    • Himmiefan says:

      Exactly. She was not covered by others like Anne and Edward; everyone could see her. It’s not like Meghan was shoved to the very back and totally blocked by others.

  20. Digital Unicorn says:

    Meghan’s out was ok until she took the coat thing off – the white shoulders was tragic.

  21. Casey20 says:

    Harry is standing in the exact same place he has stood for years for balcony apperance, Before there was a Kate and Meghan. When he married Meghan she stood next to him, nothing more nothing less. Meghan looks beautiful but doesn’t seem to be into it much this year. Could be due to a newborn at home.

  22. Arbelia says:

    I don’t find it weird that the Queen son and daughter are put prominently.Plus orderr of succession and order of precedence are two different things, and The sovereign sons are featured above the queen grandsons in order of precedence, and the queen herself can change the precedence ( like she did when Camilla lost the second rank to the profit of Anne and Alexandra of Kent).So if Andrew is below Harry and -William- in the succession, he is above them in precedence, and it’s totally logic.By the way precedence is a complicated thing: like if Kate was without Will at an event she would be below Meghan if Meghan would be with Harry!

  23. Harla says:

    I think Meghan looked absolutely radiant today, motherhood certainly agrees with her. Harry, however, seemed a bit grumpier than usual, tired maybe? I really like this outfit today, the color and style of this dress is so Meghan and it’s great to see that she’s keeping true to “her style” while negotiating a postpartum figure. The one thing I can’t stand is designers that insist on dressing pregnant/postpartum women as though they’re toddlers with lots of lace, ruffles and Peter Pan collars. The woman might have lost her figure, temporarily, but she hasn’t lost her mind!

    • Yami says:

      Seriously! She looked so young and lovely. The dress was subdued so I could focus on her beautiful face. The clothes are secondary when you look like she does. The only tragic thing about the whole episode was that I couldn’t see her more.

  24. Amne says:

    She really needs to ditch Givenchy. They don’t know how to dress her. She should find some up-and-coming designers of color in GB and give them a platform. She has the power to catapult new designers onto a global stage. That would be really exciting.

    • Anya says:

      During pregnancy, actual maternity clothes by professionals who are trained on pregnant proportions, would have made her look like a fairy princess, instead of a potato towards the end when she really started filling out all over instead of the tiny body with a basketball look some have. She keeps picking designers who do NOT know how to cut fo r a woman over a size 4. Just because it’s expensive and exclusive, doesn’t mean it will look good. A Zara dress with flattering proportions would look like a million dollars

  25. Kristen says:

    Meghan looks different. Beautiful, but different. I suspect she probably didn’t want to stand out, which is why she wore the subdued dress/hat and stayed toward the back of the balcony. I remember being five weeks post-partum, and I definitely would have preferred to blend in rather than stand out.

    • Yup, Me says:

      This makes the most sense to me.

    • Chrissyms says:

      agreed. She is used to looking hollywood thin and gorgeous. She is obviously very gorgeous but weight is a big issue woman who have a baby have to figure out. Diana had an eating disorder and Kate gets super thin super quick. She maybe feeling some pressure in that respect. Which is too bad. The funny thing is the Queen was never super thin and didn’t seem to be bothered with all that. Always seemed very comfortable in her own skin. Maybe that is what the crown will do for you.

  26. Coffeespotnyc says:

    Why does Meghan always wear/carry gloves?
    Sometimes for her appearances she carries gloves if shes not wearing them. She did eventually remove them. Is it an aristocratic thing to carry gloves?

    Also, both women r wearing bespoke and both dresses are ‘meh’. I could find something more ‘classic’ (because thats what Kate goes for) and stylish off the rack. And i know we always complain about the money spent on clothes but i BET that the money is a drop in a pond compared to their other expenses.

    • Anya says:

      I think it depends on if she needs to showcase them for sales online.

      • Casey20 says:

        Yes, becomes women are purchasing gloves in June like hot cakes…LOL.

      • Bren says:

        @Anya it sounds like your insinuating that Meghan is merching. The haters favorite lie about her.

        If so then the same can be said about Kate when she carried gloves as an accessory on Anzac Day.

      • Anya says:

        She was selling spring clothes in January in London. This is how fashion houses work, they’ll start promoting their spring lines in September FW and summer in February FW. I assume people commenting on fashion know a modicum on the industry, but your response shows that’s not the case.

        And maybe the case Bren, though I’ve never seen/heard that Kate has agreements with designers for this like Meghan with brands like Birks. It’s a pretty open “secret” with the accessory brands use her friend Jessica to outfit Meghan in certain accessories to highlight.

      • Casey20 says:

        Anya: please provide your source that Meghan has an agreement with Birks or anyone else for that matter. Otherwise stop spreading misinformation!

      • notasugarhere says:

        There is no proof because it isn’t happening. The tumblr trolls are trying to take over CB.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate did have agreements with designers, ISSA for one. That’s why ISSA was rewarded for the years of freebies by being the dress worn for the engagement announcement. Also got prominent placement on their first tour, the purple dress in Canada.

      • Yami says:

        what someone is trying to sell is this stupid narrative. Keep trying hope it brings you the joy you clearly so sadly lack.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Anya, “And maybe the case Bren, though I’ve never seen/heard that Kate has agreements with designers for this like Meghan with brands like Birks.”

        How do you know this? I have never heard of this “open secret” before.

    • notasugarhere says:

      The Queen and Princess Anne also wear gloves most of the time. Fashion, custom, and keeping your hands from getting bruised. Queen Maxima, Queen Mathilde, CP Mary – they all wear gloves too.

      • Gingerbee says:

        @Nota, the other royal ladies wear gloves, but as soon as Meghan wears them, it is a problem. The trolls are out in force today.

      • Moose says:

        Camilla was wearing gloves at TTC, so why shouldn’t Meghan? Oh because she is Meghan and everything she does is wrong according to RRs…

  27. Talie says:

    It’s funny that royal commentators think the balcony means anything. Harry and Meghan have more name recognition than most anyone up there, they have nothing to prove.

    • PrincessK says:

      Absolutely they will always be front page news even if they were not on the balcony.

  28. Laura says:

    I didn’t like the color of the dress, but I thought her makeup was perfect, none of that overly applied blush like before.

  29. DS9 says:

    Are there more pics of Meghan’s outfit than I can find?

    The in depth analysis of the fit and flattery of the whole look suggests there must be and yet I can’t see very much beyond her shoulders.

    • BeanieBean says:

      What Meghan Wore is usually on the spot with Meghan’s outfits, but their photos are no better than anyone else’s. They do have lots of nice photos of the actually trooping part, though.

  30. Anne says:

    Meghan looks poofy and sleep-deprived and I completely feel for her. She shouldn’t be under this kind of scrutiny 5 weeks after giving birth. Not everyone can bounce back that fast, and they shouldn’t. Andrew is Queen’s son, not a grandson, and he is her favorite son, who took over his dad’s duties. We might not like him, but that is the fact.

  31. Here In My Jammies says:

    With a little weight in Meghan’s face you can see she is Doria’s daughter.

  32. tuille says:

    I don’t think navy is a good color for Meghan. She must like it because she often wears it, but it doesn’t flatter her. With her fuller face now, I do see a strong resemblance to Doria. Meghan & nasty Samantha both have what must be Markle noses, very much alike.

  33. Alice says:

    Meghan just had a baby, she’s still got a lot of baby weight on her. She’s used to being at top form. She probably wanted be in back, out of the judgemental glare of everyone saying she hasn’t lost her baby weight yet! They’re just gonna compare her to Kate, who is always back to a size 0 after a month. That’s where I’d be if I was her!

  34. IlsaLund says:

    I thought she looked nice for five weeks postpartum. Not gonna throw any shade and criticize. Although reading some of these comments, it’s obvious many posters couldn’t wait for a new Meghan thread so they could throw shade and trash her. Hope Meghan doesn’t make anymore appearances in a good long while, so the tabloids and her haters can just stew.

  35. Maria says:

    The hat was awful. Did nothing for her. And she should have worn her hair a bit looser. Gives her face a softer look.

    • Eyfalia says:

      I agree, the hat was not the best choice, but it wasn’t that bad either.
      Meghan belongs to those women who does not need hair to be pretty and her face is so soft, there is nothing, which could make it look hard. Very pretty, very feminine and gentle.

    • Yami says:

      Her face looked super soft and pillowy. She looked like she was in her twenties. She wouldn’t need soft hair. She already looked extremely youthful and feminine.

  36. aquarius64 says:

    Where did Harry snap at Meghan? If he did the tabloids would have run it. Even the Fail didn’t put that story out.

    • Khy says:

      She turned around twice to say something to him and he told her to turn around. Also he looked moody.

      • Eyfalia says:

        Because the anthem was being played and you are supposed to be quiet and to stand to attention.

    • notasugarhere says:

      He didn’t snap at her. That’s another lie being spread by the tumblr folks who are invading CB today.

      • Yami says:

        They really want to draw attention from William cheating on Kate but there was another article about Rose Hanbury in the tabs today. The tabs are circling the story.

  37. Busyann says:

    Some of the comments on here are vile and are eerily similar to the comments on Meghans/The Tig thread over on Gomi. That thread is downright evil. Yet, the Kate thread is suspiciously glowly. Like the comment above about Harry snapping at Meghan….yeah I saw that little discussion on gomi and I saw the video. He didnt snap at Meghan, and she didnt look like she was going to cry. She turned to ask if they could go, because hello, this was only her second time at trooping, and he motioned that they have to wait for TQ. She said, okay, and turned back around until Queenie left, and then they waited, smiling and happy to go back in.

    I’ve said it many times, but I feel like someone in Camp Cambridge/ Camp Middleton has made it their purpose to go into comments on popular sites and tear Meghan/Harry down, while propping up Kate.

    • Hermione says:

      Yes, the Meghan hate is strong on this thread. It’s like a swarm of bees flocking to every Meghan comment board to leave shady, nasty remarks about her. All the while making sure that anything about Kate is filled with glowing, sugary comments about how regal and beautiful she is. Just pathetic.

    • Eyfalia says:

      This is also my impression. Who or what is Gomi?

      • Olive says:

        i bet it’s the getoffmyinternets.net forum – they critique bloggers and web personalities. i used to read them in the beginning but sounds like they’ve gone downhill.

      • Eyfalia says:

        @Olive Thank you!

    • Beach Dreams says:

      I’m fairly certain that anti-Meghan trolls try to brigade CB stories about her. This is one of the few sites that supports her and those types of people get very annoyed by that.

      • Yami says:

        Yea it’s pretty obvious. Over on the Katrina post it’s all sunshine, even though she’s a total snooze fest.

    • Olenna says:

      The Anti-Meghan commenters aren’t a rarity here, so I’m not surprised they’re trying to stink up the thread today. They discuss her 24/7, even if she hasn’t been seen in public for weeks. What gets me, though, is they are so like the MAGAgits, completely obsessed with hating and are too stubborn (or too stupid) to realize their incessant arguments, narratives and mean comments about Meghan (and Harry) only emphasize how unbalanced they are IRL.

      • Bren says:

        They won’t stop until they convince everyone to hate her as much as they do. It’s a sick obsession. I will never understand why they spend so much time and energy discussing someone I don’t like. Not just here but on Twitter, Tumblr and other forums. The fixation is disturbing.

    • M.A.F. says:

      Correct me if I am wrong but most of today’s comments have been about her outfit, which is not hating on a person. Only one thread was about whether or not Harry snapped at her (which clearly he did not).

      • Yami says:

        They use the clothes to attach her, it’s their way of producing nastiness and trying to avoid the most obvious racist slurs. If you didn’t see the post accusing Duchess Meg of being on steroids, you need to read a little more in depth. There are some gems in here.

    • Vi says:

      “I’ve said it many times, but I feel like someone in Camp Cambridge/ Camp Middleton has made it their purpose to go into comments on popular sites and tear Meghan/Harry down, while propping up Kate.”
      Sure,because the Kate threads here are full of glowing praise.. This Cambridge person isn’t working very well.. lol

  38. CindyP says:

    Hate to say it, but her outfit was not at all flattering. Hair pulled back too tight. She looks exhausted

    • Anya says:

      I sort of feel like she wasn’t planning to come but a day or two before she was told it wasn’t an option. I think she did the best she could, but she was uncomfortable. I’m hopig she takes the summer off completely after this. Sadly I think Archie will be an only child. I did want to see a little ginger girl in the future

      • Katherine says:

        Here’s what I don’t get with respect to the royal family rules or etiquette or whatever. Not an option or what? Guards show up and drag her there? Of course it’s an option. It’s a highly regulated and formal family sure, but your rights as a fully formed adult aren’t taken away. I mean it’s 2019. She could have said she was ill. And she’s not actually under any obligation to be more specific than that. And sure it would have been criticized but she’s criticized when she shows up so what difference does it make? I frankly don’t think it would be the scandal to end all scandals and the downfall of the royal family if a 5 weeks post partum woman didn’t attend an event one year that she will attend for the next 50.

      • SippingRoyalTea says:

        So based on the way she looks four whole weeks after having a child you don’t think they’ll have any more? I really need to know why? Folks really act live Meghan having her first child in her late 30’s is an abnormality when it’s a fairly common thing. I feel like the same people who thought/ were hoping she couldn’t have children suddenly have all of this faux concern about how she looks when she seemed happy and smiling if not a little tired which is what you would expect from the mother of a four week old infant.

      • Eyfalia says:

        @Anya
        What are you talking about? This is complete fiction. Tumbl is missing you.

      • Chrissyms says:

        how do you know she isn’t going to have another baby? because she looked tired? That literally makes no sense. I have 3 kids and have likely looked tired for the past 7 years. lol

      • Anya says:

        Katherine, I’m sure no one held a gun to her head. However, have you never done something you didn’t want to do at all, but had peer pressure from hell put on you to the point that you know damn well you’re going to pay for it immensely, if you don’t go? I know I have, and it almost ALWAYS involved family. The narrative of you’re not a team player, you’re a princess diva, etc will play over and over, and at some point you say fuck it and just do what you’re not feeling to prevent the blowback. That’s what yesterday felt like TO ME. And I empathize with her, it didn’t look fun for her. The queen has only a few more troopings left, I’m sure that every one is a “must attend” now, by the family. Also maybe why Andrew wiped a tear after GSTQ, he realizes the gravity of the situation

      • Tina says:

        Zara and Mike weren’t there.

  39. Lady Keller says:

    I love how outraged some people are over Meghan’s placement on the balcony. Someone should tell those small children they need to move and get behind the duchess. How they! Meanwhile the queen’s only daughter can barely see or be seen.

    • Yami says:

      Literally, there’s one mention of this and one other person like you who is trying to Sh*t stir.

  40. SippingRoyalTea says:

    First of all there no pecking order for where people stand on the balcony at trooping and Harry and Meghan weren’t pushed to the back. If you pay attention you’ll see that the small children stand in front and their parents usually stand behind them which is why you always see Peter and Autumn Philips in front of Harry and Meghan too.
    As far as Meghan’s outfit, I didn’t like the cape but everything else was just fine and it’s about what I expected in color for her first event post baby. I don’t know how all of you could judge the fit of her dress when we didn’t get a full body shot and the person suggesting that the reason she wore gloves is because she’s trying to “mercy” them do you have that same energy when Kate is carrying gloves instead of wearing them?
    I really am tired of all of the talk about spending where Meghan is concerned because very few people keep that same energy for Kate or the other working royal women. Kate literally had a dress custom made that is almost a replica of a dress already has and nobody said a word about her wasting taxpayer money.
    One more thing, you should probably stop watching the misleading videos from Meghan haters on Twitter because those people will try to convince you that Harry was upset in their we’d day. If you watch the full video of when Harry supposedly snaps she turns and says something to him and he nods and says something back so that she quickly turns to wait for the anthem and right after that the hold hands and talk to the kids as they walk off the balcony. Sorry for the long post I’m done now.

    • Nic919 says:

      I watched the global tv (Canada) feed of the balcony and there was zero evidence of Harry being grumpy.

    • TheOriginalMia says:

      Well said, sippingroyaltea.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I think the simple style and the cape were a concession to her being 5 weeks postpartum. Changing shape, breastfeeding, any leaking covered by the cape, loose for sitting in the carriage.

      Kate has 8+ years of expensive, near-identical outfits crowding the closets at KP and Anmer. The trooping outfit is a near copy of several other yellow coat dresses she has and the hat is nearly the same as one she wore to Zara’s wedding. She also bought three completely new maternity wardrobes, instead of re-wearing maternity clothes she already had for each pregnancy. After all this time, we shouldn’t be seeing many new outfits on Kate. She should be wearing the 8 years of clothes she already has. 70+ coat dresses for a woman obsessed with staying the same size? That should be enough coat dresses for a lifetime.

      Meghan has just finished her first year as a royal, not her eighth. She’s building up her wardrobe and wore many personal items (purchased with her own money pre-Harry) in the first 18 months. Adding in the pregnancy on top of that which meant her wardrobe expanded as a necessity. Most of what she wore as maternity are fairly classic, and can and should be re-cut to be worn after they’re done building their family. Most are things she could re-wear for years and they’d still be flattering and stylish.

      • MrsBanjo says:

        This. It’s ridiculous how much vitriol Meghan gets when she’s been a royal for only a year, yet here is Kate with yet another custom coatdress and… crickets.

      • Yami says:

        It’s because Meghan is half black and Kate is white. All the outrage is a pretend reason to criticize and denigrate. They honestly don’t care about the clothes, they care about having a pretext to put the half black Duchess down. They can’t say what they really want to, so they use clothes. It’s pretty transparent.

  41. Beach Dreams says:

    I love how some people were just waiting for an excuse to rag on Meghan. You can hardly see her outfit yet people are crying about how unflattering it supposedly is.

    It’s also funny how some folks AND the British tabloids are trying to push the “tension” narrative between the Sussexes. Sorry, but that’s not the couple you should be focusing on if you want to be honest with yourselves. No, you should really focus on the couple that looked tense in the car (particularly Kate) and who focused more on interacting with their children than each other (especially Kate, who didn’t seem to want to smile or look too much at her husband).

    • Enn says:

      Kate and William looked fine on the balcony. I hate the dichotomy here.

      • Kristen says:

        It’s so disgusting and disappointing

      • Vi says:

        Yes,they look fine. And they had some cute interactions in the videos. You can’t fake it.
        If nobody can’t judge a relationship from a few seconds of video because everyone sees what they want to see,which is right,I don’t get why it makes sense to assume things based on a pic in a car that in reality tells nothing..

    • PrincessK says:

      The interesting thing is that DM have an article about Rose Hanbury today….DM has now decided that it wants to fuel rumours about Wandering Willy playing in the Rose Bush.

      I wonder what has caused them to decide to increase speculation rather than dampen it, as in previous weeks?

    • Nic919 says:

      I thought that was interesting as well because while there is a photo of Kate and William in the car looking tense the Express tries to make a story of Harry and Meghan looking tense. Gee I wonder why.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Harry and Meghan looked giddy and glowing most of the time. Happy and ready to get back to Archie and Windsor.

    • Yami says:

      Exactly and here in this thred, we have people trying to sell the narrative that Harry scolded Meghan. That’s pretty gross, particularly as William’s cheating rumor is pretty recent and hasn’t quite gone away yet. People in glass houses and all that.

  42. Mrs. Darcy says:

    I mean, it’s the Queen’s (fake) birthday, it’s normal her sons would be nearest to her not her newest granddaughter in law, and obviously kids to the front to see the airshow, the balcony is only so big so I’m less on board with “racist balcony placement” than “They are gonna need a bigger balcony soon – build the royals a bigger one with my tax dollars lol ugh” :-/

    • Eyfalia says:

      Who complained about the kids being in the front? It was mentioned, that one kid stood in front of her, so Meghan could see and was easily seen. That’s all!
      Oh and it is Pound, not dollar! But maybe the UK have to change this, when this huge trade DEAL is signed.

    • Olive says:

      charles wants a streamlined monarchy – once he’s king, i doubt we will see huge balcony appearances like this. i hope the kent’s and the gloucester’s and all the various cousins are gone from balcony appearances once charles is monarch. it’s too much.

  43. Loretta says:

    Meghan is glowing and her and Harry look so happy

    • notasugarhere says:

      Yes. There’s one really cute picture of them turning to each other and grinning on the balcony.

  44. S says:

    She looks lovely and glow-y, even if the dress seems a bit heavy for June. (Then again, it’s London June, so not totally out of line to expect cooler temps, and not like she has, or should have been, focused on wardrobe the last few weeks.)

    But the idea that her jewelry is being presumed as a “push present” is just … Ewww. I mean, if you’ve got a rich husband and he wants to buy you jewelry no matter what the reason, well, good for you, but I’ve had friends who bragged about such gifts in exchange for giving birth and I’ve never not found the entire concept beyond gross.

    Which, by the way, is well in line with general public sentiment, so ascribing Meghan’s ring to such an event, with zero confirmation or information, seems like just another way to try and make her look like a greedy, uncouth American.

    • Mumbles says:

      Thank you, I LOATHE the idea of a “push present”, it makes it sound like the woman gave birth as a transaction. Someone asked my friend once if she ever got one from her husband and she replied, we both wanted the baby, why would I get a present?

      For all we know, the ring was a lovely first anniversary gift.

    • Fiffy says:

      I don’t think the push present thing is exclusive to Meghan, Kate had articles about William giving her push presents after giving birth to her children as well:
      https://www.popsugar.co.uk/celebrity/Best-Jewellery-Prince-William-Has-Given-Kate-Middleton-40146509

      https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/6351847/push-present-kate-middleton-ring-gift-from-prince-william-best-ideas-father/

    • Tourmaline says:

      Some women are given or purchase new jewelry to commemorate having a baby. As it is you know a major life event. I don’t get why is this so greedy or gross to some people, at all.

    • Amelie says:

      My father gave my mother two rings to commemorate my birth and my sister’s. This was in 1988 and 1990 before the term “push present” was a thing. And my parents were far from wealthy back then! When we were young, my mother used to take out the rings and show them to us and explain to us how she got them. And also that she would one day pass on the rings to us. I forgot about that ring to be honest until when I turned 30 last year, my mother decided it would be a good time to gift me the ring. My sister will get hers next year when she turns 30. Now I have a lovely sapphire ring surrounded by a few diamonds that I wear every day. I don’t think of the ring as a push present now that I wear it. I find it a lovely gesture my father did as a thank you to my mom for giving birth to his two daughters, almost like a family heirloom.

      No one told my father to go out and get jewelry, he did it on his own and he certainly had never heard of “push presents” (he’s French anyways). Say whatever you want but I ended up getting a great piece of jewelry out of it.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Willem-Alexander gave Maxima rings for the birth of each of their daughters. The idea being the rings will be passed on to each daughter.

      Amalia – ruby and diamond
      Alexia – orange-pink Padparasha sapphire with three diamond bands
      Ariane – three large emerald cut diamonds

      • Enn says:

        *Padparadscha

      • notasugarhere says:

        Thanks! My spelling is lousy. It was such a big deal with Eugenie’s engagement ring had that stone, when Maxima had been wearing a huge one for over a decade.

    • Becks1 says:

      @Amelie – that is lovely. My husband gave me a fairly simple diamond ring when my oldest was born and my plan has always been to give it to his future wife or daughter.

  45. Mego says:

    Was glad to see Meghan and she looked very happy.

    I thought her outfit did not flatter her either in fit or colour. Michael K. Called it her salon cape by Givenchy and he is not wrong. Severe updo and too small hat and here we are.

    Balcony placement is a non story as it’s so crowded anyway but I thought it interesting that Harry and William were on opposite sides. Makes me think there is a falling out between them. Harry didn’t look happy to be there but I find that he is much more mature now and tends to be formal and serious in the presence of the Queen. I wonder if he doesn’t like being around William too…

    • Chrissyms says:

      I am scared of heights and me and my children would be firmly in the back leaning against the wall.

      • Mego says:

        Me too. I walked over a kilometre long suspension bridge and that was when I realized how phobic of heights I was. I would be frightened if my child was leaning over the railing like those kids were.

  46. Guest says:

    Meghan looked great. Very young looking. Hate the hat though. As for the balcony, please there is no pecking order up there. It’s like a first come, first serve. There are waaaaay to many people up there.

  47. M.A.F. says:

    I don’t mind the color as I try to avoid bright colors at all costs. I didn’t like the white on the sleeves. It looked like someone left the tissue on her after they applied her make-up. I have no opinion on the hat as I would prefer to wear sunglasses instead of a hat.

  48. Lachunky says:

    We all know if William was caught being grumpy towards Kate and Kate looked like she was holding back tears people would have an absolute field day and would never let the incident die. They would still be bringing it up 10 plus years later, on the most random occasions to put them down. But when it’s Harry and Meghan, predictably out come the mental gymnastics.

    Meghan went from looking happy and smiley to visibly sad and holding back tears after Harry spoke to her. I’m not saying they are going to break up but let not pretend it didn’t happen especially when people are quick to point out and gossip about William and Kate’s body language, interactions and mannerisms in a negative way.

    • Olenna says:

      I saw the video twice, and the scolding and pouting didn’t happen. But, if the whataboutism makes you feel better then, yeah, people do pick the Cambridges behavior apart as well.

      • Lachunky says:

        I’ve watched it a few times Meghan definitely looked like someone who had just been scolded and she also looked like she was holding back tears. She did exactly what I used do when I needed to hold back tears – blink a lot and smile through it pretending everything is ok. If your happy to defend Harry’s douche-y behaviour then that’s your call. I actually kinda feel sorry for Meghan now. She gave up a lot for Harry and his family and is only a few week post partum, having a husband being grumpy to you in public must feel crappy.

        But at least she and Kate finally have something in common; douche-y husbands!

      • Olenna says:

        A defense of his so-called “douche-y” behavior could only be true if I thought his behavior was wrong, and I don’t. So, don’t try to think for me. If Meghan had still been talking during the anthem, then certain people would’ve been on here first thing this morning decrying her lack manners and royal decorum.

      • Lachunky says:

        @Olenna

        He’s douche-y because he told her to turn around quiet rudely he basically said “turn around!” two or three times instead of “Hey, Meghan can you please look forward again” or something similar. She’s probably emotional after a life-changing few weeks…hormones and tiredness etc.. Harry being snappy towards her probably made her even more emotional. There’s no shame in that.

      • Yami says:

        It probably helps them stop thinking about how wills cheated on Katrina. It’s really sad. As if a look is as bad as taking little Willie were it doesn’t belong.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Let’s not pretend that any of your lies about Harry snapping at Meghan or her nearly crying are true, Lachunky.

      • Yami says:

        How she wishes they were true! She wants something! Anything, to be wrong with Harry’s marriage, when in fact they just had a beautiful baby and done significant work to affect marginalized communities in less than a year. Their faves could never and have never from the looks of it.

    • Amelie says:

      Also Meghan being emotional might be due to hormones? She is a new mom and I feel like that’s a time where new moms are hyper sensitive. One slight telling off might set them off as they are sleep deprived and learning the ropes of taking care of a small human. New moms cry a lot and that’s normal. She also probably hasn’t been separated from her son much. I thought Harry did look grumpy during the carriage ride but I haven’t looked at any videos.

      I remember Kate at Meghan and Harry’s wedding last year, she was 4 weeks post partum after Louis and she also looked tired and kind of like she wished she was elsewhere which I didn’t blame her for.

      • CynicalCeleste says:

        You are completely right, yet that was around the time this site ripped kate apart for crying “white woman tears”

      • Anitas says:

        So true. My husband and I get on really well and rarely argue, but in the first few weeks with the baby we were often curt and snappy. Tiredness and hormones made me feel like a Neanderthal unable to use human language effectively. You really are in a different state of mind and overreact to things you wouldn’t normally, and it doesn’t mean anything about the state of your relationship.

        I saw the video posted here, Harry didn’t look like he was scolding Meghan, just maybe give her a warning, but she did seem a little bit annoyed by it, judging by the way she seemed to deliberately pause for a second before she turned forwards. I’m sure in the next moment she remembered it was irrational and moved on.

    • Chrissyms says:

      This is fake news. I admire these women for being out in public without their babies for that many hours. If she is nursing…then she has to worry about pumping…or maybe nursing in between…..must be unpleasant in that respect.

      • E says:

        Replying to @chrissyms

        Admired for being without their baby for so many hours? Seems a bit dramatic. I hope you feel the same way about mothers who have to go back to work immediately because they can’t afford to take unpaid leave. She rode on a carriage and stood in a balcony for a little while and will go back to having the entire summer off (plus the previous five weeks, and the time off before the birth) it’s not a big deal.

    • Casey20 says:

      ok…that didn’t happened. Meghan had turned to say something to Harry right before “God Save the Queen” the Royals always stand at attention when that song is played. She quickly turn to stand at attention when the song started. Maybe you should watch the video with the sound ON and the full video not the one you Meghan haters are circulating!

  49. TheOriginalMia says:

    I see the Tumblr trolls are here in force today.

    Meghan looked fine to me. Tired but beautiful. I wish she’d stayed home with Archie, but I understand why she came. Not going to judge her outfit because it was fine and appropriate. She just had a baby and didn’t diet/exercise herself back down to nothing 5 weeks out.

  50. Rojas says:

    We can barely see the dress so I dont understand how people are claiming it unflattering.

    I do agree I dont like the Cape. Either way she looked happy and gorgeous. Her little baby weight gain in the face is adorable.

    • Yami says:

      People just want to criticize because Meghan is obviously beautiful, loved and hardworking and they can’t stand it. It makes them feel good to pick apart at nonexistent things Because that’s all they can do. She remains beautiful, loved and a princess of the United Kingdom for all they say

  51. liriel says:

    I agree with you guys, givenchy has no idea how to dress her and she has no clue how to choose fascinators. As a new mum she’s especially lovely in a lighter colour.

  52. MattyLove says:

    The hat is too structured to be paired with a structured updo. One or the other, but not both. Structured hat, loose hair. Structured hair, deconstructed hat.

  53. kerwood says:

    Megan’s dress looked plain and simple which is probably what a woman who had recently given birth would want to wear to an event that the whole world is watching. Megan knows she doesn’t have to wear anything flashy because she’s going to get a lot of attention no matter what she wears. And since the dress is GIVENCHY. it ain’t exactly sackcloth and ashes.

    In my opinion, the most important accessory Megan wore that day was her incredibly beautiful face. She was glowing and looked gorgeous, if a bit tired. As I’ve said, I’ve never had a baby so I don’t know if a woman is supposed to be full of vim and vigour five weeks after giving birth. I do know that Megan doesn’t need botox or an inch of makeup to look as good as she does.

    There were way too many people on that balcony but it must be what the Queen wants and it’s her bloody day and her bloody balcony! Megan was in a pretty good spot; close to the Queen but not front and center to pull focus.

    All in all, I think it was a good return to the world’s stage. Now she can go back home and love up her baby and her husband.

  54. Katebush says:

    Ugh hate her Givenchy outfit.
    Too somber for the occasions .. she missed the mark a lot with her clothes . So much for being the breath of fresh air fashion wise?! She looks happy though and I don’t think she looks overly tired or exhausted or anything.

  55. Chrissyms says:

    Meghen looks just beautiful. A glowing new mother. IT really suits her. I betcha next year Baby Archie will be front and center with his cousins. It looks like the kids take priority. Which makes sense.

  56. LW says:

    I haven’t read all the comments, but they’re right behind small children, not shoved behind a lot of adults. Also, in the carriage she wore a loose jacket and was strategically behind taller kids on the balcony. She had a baby a month ago. She gets ripped apart whatever she does/wears. Did anyone think maybe she didn’t want to be front and center on the balcony so everyone could tear apart her “post baby body” (such a gross concept in general)? Because you know if she’s currently fuller than we’re used to seeing her that some a-holes would be letting everyone hear it! She looked great and Kate looked great!

  57. Evil Owl says:

    I find it endearing when Meg dresses badly. It’s human & relatable that she’s like every woman having a moment of torment in front of the mirror owing to weight gain or hair that just won’t obey or maybe laundry that wasn’t delivered on time. I like to imagine she then just lets out a deep sigh, picks the the most inoffensive thing hanging in her wardrobe, puts on her happy face and strides off to face the world.

  58. Max says:

    There is a clip from an event a few years ago where William us bent down talking to prince George, when the Queen told William to “Stand up straight”. Harry knows the protocol.

    • Mego says:

      Good point. Harry has admitted a few times that the Queen really intimidates him.

    • BeanieBean says:

      Yep, remember that. You know the Queen would have noticed if Meghan were still turned around chatting when the anthem started; eyes in the back of her head, don’t ya know!

      • PrincessK says:

        I remember that. It was so embarrassing, William being scolded by the Queen in front of millions of viewers.

    • Mego says:

      @Beaniebean more like her Majesty would have reviewed youtube videos of the balcony appearance and given them a dressing down. 🤓 I think it’s just the family tend to be very careful around protocol and showing respect to the Queen. I’m not sure why Meghan kept turning around to talk to Harry. Perhaps after she has been to a few more of these she will better understand what to do and when to do it. Her curtsey looked a little late to me.

  59. leena says:

    That coat absolutely swamps her/

  60. Maria says:

    Ok, on a different note. Who was the woman on the far end of the balcony standing next to Lady Gabriella of Kent? I thought it might be Marina Mowatt but I wasn’t sure. And I would like to speak in favour of a full balcony. We hardly ever see the minor royals like Lord Nicholas Windsor, or his sister Lady Helen. Of course most of them were at the wedding two weeks ago, but they don’t do public duties, so it’s nice to see them once in a while.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Maria, I agree with you. It is nice to see minor roles all together once or twice a year.

  61. notasugarhere says:

    Digital Unicorn, go look up Cyberpunk 2077 video game announced today…

  62. Hermione says:

    Wow…this thread was bonkers. So many new posters or is it a few new posters using several different names to rag on Meghan. Such sad sorry people. If you don’t like Meghan, that’s fine…there are plenty of anti Meghan sites for you to rant and rave on. Don’t come over to CB trying to contaminate it with your cray cray.

  63. Vi says:

    A bit more of weight really suits her face. Same for Kate. Meghan likes her navy and neutral colored outfits,while I think she looks way better in jewel tones. I agree that the hat is unflattering (shape and color),but the navy choice for the dress is understandable. A white hat with a navy element would have been perfect.
    Side note:I really don’t get the fanfictions based on a few seconds of videos,and even worse based on *one* car photo..

  64. Lucy says:

    Meghan is back at Frogmore until her maternity leave ends. Continue to dissect every inch of TTC pictures over the summer.

  65. Bichon Lover says:

    The dress was dark, plain and slightly dowdy. It’s exactly what a new nursing mother should wear in public when she’s going to be under constant surveillance for a few hours. The cut is also what someone carrying extra weight would wear to mask how and where that weight is. Will she wear it again? Not until her next pregnancy, if there is one.

    I hope she spends the remainder of her maternity leave in seclusion, if that’s what she wants. The next time we see her, I hope she’s back at a comfortable weight for her, in an immaculately tailored outfit, with perfect hair. All of this just to shut people up.

  66. Seraphina says:

    Wow oh wow to all the comments.

    I saw Daily Mail yesterday and it’s headline from and center was: Meghan is Back!!!! They need to sell paper and she sells. By far.

    I didn’t care for her outfit or hat. She needs some help in the hat area, which we have pointed out. And yes, she has some weight in the face. Thank God she looks normal like she just had a baby. She isn’t starving or dieting. Good for her.

  67. I Didn't Do It says:

    These posts always bring to my memory a children’s book by P D Eastman. Go , Dog. Go! Makes me smile. The lady dog asks the male dog, “do you like my hat?” His reply is always “no, I do not like your hat.” At the end of the story, her hat is outlandish but he likes it finally.

    Hats are changeable every day. She will find good ones.

  68. I'm With The Band says:

    Maybe I’m in the minority here, but the kids being in front of Harry and Megan makes sense. All I saw was a height pecking order?

  69. Eyfalia says:

    ytmer says:
    You can see the skirt seam in the carriage photos. It’s pulling the fabric and it looks cheap. Not a reflection on Meghan, just Givenchy.
    ——-

    Yes, you can see the seams. But since she is sitting down, how can they pull on the fabric? The dress is lined, which every dress should be and the sewing is perfect. The material is silk crepe which is very light and ideal for warmer weather. Givenchy is one of the top haute couture houses in the world and they know how to make clothes, they have the best people. As long as we do not have any photos of her in the dress standing up, we cannot make any judgement at all.

  70. Eyfalia says:

    Somebody said that she takes steroids. Meghan would never harm herself or her child. So this is a very silly allegation.

    It was said a couple of times that Harry snapped at her and she was nearly crying. They both are very aware, like all of them are, that they are closely watched. By fans and more so by haters and the press. They would never have an argument in public, never! First Meghan is accused of acting all the time and then she suddenly is on the brink of crying and has forgotten her acting skills? You should really make up your mind. Harry had a poker face in the carriage ride, he hardly spoke. Well, the tabloids hire lip readers to check what they said.

    Remember, never judge others by your own standards.

    • Aang says:

      To be fair some people must take steroids for a wide range of medical conditions. They are actually quite commonly prescribed. I’m not saying this is the case here.

  71. Mignionette says:

    Loved seeing Meghan come out for TOTC. She looked great. Healthy and radiant like a new mother still basking in the miracle of the birth of her child. It’s refreshing to see a more accurate representation of what a 5 week post partum woman looks like in someone as high profile as Meghan.

    The comments about her weight gain, choice of comfortable clothing and baby weight face are unnecessary and misogynistic .

    If I had one criticism of Meg , it would be that she needs to start living what she eschews i.e. cut down on the couture and Givenchy. There are a plethora of talented young UK & US designers that she could champion just by wearing their clothes. She has the unique position of being an American Princess which with the current Brexit shambles would really allow her to win over the public.

    The British public are a b*tchy lot. But if you show some good will i.e. more high street they do appreciate it. For example LK Bennet is very much Meg’s style and they are in financial hardship, just her wearing one of their outfits would have really signaled her support for British fashion. I read somewhere that she styles herself and that just might be the problem. Like someone said above she needs to work with someone well versed in styling petite women.

  72. Mignionette says:

    I wish Meghan would part ways with Givenchy and start collaborating with Stella MacCartney who virtually mirrors her values.

    Stella is virtually UK royalty herself (and of dual UK/US parentage), a working mother of 4 and more fashion forward and conscious in her values. Whilst I loved Meg’s main wedding dress, I feel that her evening dress did her more justice.

    All in all I feel like Meg should be working with Stella…It just makes more sense…. there I said it….

    • notasugarhere says:

      She has worn McCartney several times. Why are you making a big deal about her working with multiple British designers, McCartney included?

  73. Penguin says:

    The dress is fine, just fine. I feel Givenchy are taking advantage of Meghan, they really aren’t giving her bespoke items that really fit and suit her. Which they should as she takes enough flak for wearing them.

    The hat could be better, perhaps the one she wore at Ascot would have gone nicely with this dress.

    Her position on the balcony, probably suited her, given she’s probably feeling self conscious about her post baby body. Plus imagine if she pushed her way to the front and stood in front of the kids??

  74. Lucylee says:

    Meghan wasn’t the only one on the balcony wearing navy. Lady Louise is a teenager and she was wearing navy. Faux outrage is rampant.
    Plus, shouldn’t everyone be talking about the Queen? It’s her celebration.

  75. Elizabeth Mahon says:

    The Duke of York was next to the Queen because he is now considered like her escort since Prince Philip has retired. I don’t think that her placement on the balcony is any kind of slight. The Duke of Kent’s grandson was on one of the balcony’s off to the side, not the main balcony in the middle.

  76. SpankFD says:

    Didnt Andrew also take the hit recently by “spending quality time” with Trum? Could that also have contributed to his balcony placement and/or his regiment’s prominence?

    This fam operates transactionallt, right?