Khloe Kardashian reveals her ‘truth’ about the messy start of her relationship with Tristan


Khloe Kardashian and Kourtney Kardashian leave Diana Ross's 75th birthday party at Warwick

Khloe Kardashian and Tristan Thompson were never a great couple. He always had one foot out the door, throughout the entire relationship. Even when they first started, it was bad and shady – Khloe and Tristan started up soon after he impregnated his then-girlfriend Jordan Craig. Jordan was pregnant throughout the first six or seven months of Khloe and Tristan’s relationship, and then when Jordan had the baby – a son named Prince – Khloe tried to pretend it wasn’t really happening, or that it was all just a minor kerfuffle and she (Khloe) did nothing wrong because Jordan and Tristan were done before she (Khloe) met him. Well, this week, Radar (and People, and other outlets) published some highlights from child support court documents involving Jordan. Jordan discussed how, yes, Tristan cheated and it was horrible for her while she was pregnant:

In the documents, Craig, now 27, claimed she was living an “extravagant” life with her boyfriend of two years, Thompson, when she found out she was pregnant in April 2016. Craig alleged Thompson was eager to start a family at the time — but one month later, she found out he had been cheating on her, she claimed.

“Tristan insisted he would change for our family, and tried to get back together on numerous occasions,” she said in the court papers, according to RadarOnline. But Thompson’s alleged infidelities continued, and Craig said she soon spotted paparazzi photos of Thompson “with one of the women I previously confronted him about, and whom Tristan had denied even knowing,” per the documents obtained by the outlet.

Kardashian, 34, and Thompson, 28, were first linked around September 2016, while Craig was still pregnant with Thompson’s son Prince. Rumors have circulated online that Thompson met Kardashian while he was still with Craig, though Kardashian has denied any involvement in their breakup. In the documents obtained by RadarOnline, Craig said Kardashian and Thompson’s “relationship went viral and everything took a turn for the worst.”

“Every day several articles were published worldwide mocking my new unfortunate reality and my pregnancy would now become one of the most popular gossip headlines due to the woman Tristan was now publicly dating during my pregnancy,” she said. According to Craig, she was forced into bed rest due to the “stress” of her ex’s newly public relationship: “This brought an enormous amount of negative, unwanted attention and stress into my life, and more critically, into my pregnancy,” she claimed. “My obstetrician ordered me to be on bed rest due to high levels of stress that eventually caused me to have serious pregnancy complications.”

[From People]

Poor woman. I mean, I suspected that – Tristan is a serial cheater, and it wasn’t like he got Jordan pregnant and then seamlessly moved on to Khloe. No, he was screwing around on Jordan with multiple women, and Khloe was one of them and then Jordan and Tristan were done. Anyway, people came for Khloe yet again – even though it’s clear that Tristan’s lie-filled infidelity is more like a serious pathology at this point – and Khloe responded this week on her Instagram Stories:

Khloé Kardashian is addressing claims that she began her relationship with ex Tristan Thompson while he was still dating his previous girlfriend Jordan Craig, the mother of his son Prince, 2.

“I’m disappointed that I even feel the need to post this but… I need to say my truth,” Kardashian, 34, wrote on her Instagram story Tuesday night. “Take it as you will.” The Keeping Up with the Kardashians star then explained how she first met Thompson, 28.

“My truth is: I met Tristan because HE CHOSE to go on a blind date with me,” she wrote. “A mutual friend set us up. After going on some dates, Tristan told me that he had an ex that was pregnant. Obviously, I was reluctant about us continuing to date or start a relationship.”

Kardashian said that the basketball player “pleaded with me that the relationship was over long before we met. He had me talk with his most inner circle,” she said. “He showed me physical poof [sic] (correspondence between the two) and had me on calls with his lawyers to prove his point. His best friends, business associates and even his mother told me, him and his ex were broken up before we met. This is my truth! The truth that I believed and trusted. If for any reason this is NOT in fact the truth, I am so completely and utterly sorry that TRISTAN and his inner circle would lie on something like this! I pray my truth is in fact that. Lord knows I pray but now, I really don’t know what to believe.”

“Truthfully, from the deepest parts of my soul, I am sorry!” she wrote. “I’m sorry for any pain that has been created either way. No woman deserves to go through anything like this!”

[From People]

I laughed a little bit at the idea that a few dates into the relationship, Tristan was whipping out receipts for his breakup and those receipts were… emails and texts, I guess? And Khloe never thought to simply go to Jordan and ask her what was up? The whole thing is weird and it’s just a reminder that I could never get involved with a guy whose ex is pregnant. Some women (Khloe, Gisele) can deal with it, but I can’t. Anyway, I sort of believe that Tristan told Khloe that he and Jordan were done, but that doesn’t answer the question of “why the f–k did she believe him?” Even with the text-receipts, why believe him? Because she wanted to believe him. Because she’s dumb. And so is he.

Kourtney and Khloe Kardashian dine at Giorgio Baldi with Kylie and Kim

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  1. Cherie says:

    Is this where I’m supposed to believe she cared enough to ask for receipts?

    • Zapp Brannigan says:

      Exactly, she lies like a rug too.

      I thought the story was that they first met at Kevin Hart’s wedding and that Tristan was at that with a very pregnant Jordan, who is cousins with Kevin’s now wife.

      Also the biggest mystery is how I know all that, yet can’t remember why I just walked into my own damn kitchen!

      • launicaangelina says:

        I relate to your last paragraph on a deep, personal level. 😂

      • Rice says:

        Not only is she a lying liar, but she also thinks we’re fools. She’s basically admitting that she knew that something was stinkier than Tristan’s basketball socks but yet she stayed with him long enough to have a child with him. That whole family is M.E.S.S.Y.

      • Kim says:

        that’s the thing when people say, ” I’m telling my truth.”

        they expect people not to check them, or acknowledge that they’re lying to themselves(and others), and take their “truth” at face value…

        people lie to themselves a lot..
        no one wants to be the villian of their own story lmao!

    • Ronaldinhio says:

      I was engaged to a guy and he was married. I found out because she named me on her divorce petition.
      Not everyone who is lied to is stupid or doesn’t have a sister’s back

      We stopped being engaged soon after. He was a lying toad of a human and
      I had a luckyish escape. I was really scarred by the experience as I’m sure was his wife and all the women who came after

      • Alex Schuster says:

        The issue here with Klohe is that the guy you are going out with tells you he has a pregnant ex, why not run? I t is a giant size red flag. What good man leaves a pregnant woman? Just with that I would take a sharp left to the exit.
        And I have been in a situation similar to yours, we can only believe what we are told, why spend another second with a person we dont trust. Men, ok most men are entitled, lying , cheating pieces of shit. Men have become to me kryptonite

    • whybother says:

      lmao

  2. Joy says:

    Ok if the girl is still pregnant it isn’t “long over” if anything it’s been over a few weeks..

    • Alissa says:

      Right?! How “long over” could it have been if she’s still pregnant! And if a dude has to go through all those hoops to prove he’s not still with his pregnant girlfriend, probably find someone who doesn’t have a pregnant girlfriend? And definitely don’t immediately have a kid of your own with him. If he’s cool with going on dates with other women rather than try to make it work with his pregnant ex, that’s a problem. And did she even ask why they broke up when he knew she was pregnant?

      This is so dumb.

      Also, petition for people to stop saying “my truth.” There is only one TRUTH. You may have a different perspective or perception, but everyone can’t have their own individual truth that contradicts each other. That’s not what truth means.

      • Maria TR says:

        THANK YOU! I love the saying “You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own truth.”

    • And if you’re in the situation where he’s showing you “proof” that the relationship is over – don’t be in that situation.

      She had three choices:

      1. See the dude for the big red flag that he is, and walk away, and don’t help him cause his baby mama pain.

      2. Go to his baby mama, and let her know what the butthead’s been saying.

      3. Chant, “I want what I want, and I don’t care who gets hurt!” like a bratty, spoiled baby. Then claim ignorance when evidence of your selfish behavior is exposed.

      Chloe was irresponsible at best, and so is her explanation.

  3. Elisabeth says:

    There is my truth, his truth and THE truth.

    Khloe chose to ignore obvious red flags

    • CA Family Code says:

      “He had me on calls with his lawyer” “he showed me proof” LOL. Has Khloe never watched Seinfeld?
      Jerry: Hey, look whose here – Puddy.
      Elaine: My Puddy? But we broke up.
      Jerry: And yet he continues to live.
      (Puddy walks over to the table)
      Puddy: Hey Benes, How are you?
      Elaine: I’m doing great.
      Puddy: Great. (pauses) See ya.
      Jerry: Well, that’s it. You two are back together.
      Elaine: What?
      Jerry: The bump into. The bump into always leads to the backslide.
      Elaine: David and I will not be getting back together.
      Jerry: Elaine, breaking up is like knocking over a coke machine. You can’t do it in one push, you got to rock it back and forth a few times, and then it goes over.

      It took my ex and I years to finally let go and he’s coming in from out of town to visit this week (you never know)

  4. Wilady says:

    Wow he really has a pattern, huh?

  5. TheHeat says:

    I think she’s admitting that she was duped by him. I’ve been duped by a guy and I’m far from “dumb”. When you’re in a fun, exciting, and new relationship with a too-good-to-be-true guy, you ignore the fact that he IS too good to be true.
    I think it’s nice that she has apologized, now that she’s been treated EXACTLY the same way as Jordan was.

    • Cherie says:

      Maybe? But I’m stabby this morning so I’m going with he didn’t need to dupe her, I truly believe she just didn’t care once she decided she wanted him. Kim was pregnant before she was divorced from her prop husband, that whole mess with Tigger when his baby mama was in the fold etc.
      I don’t think any of these women respect other women or their relationships. I think the I was a victim too ship has sailed.

      • Yup, Me says:

        I don’t think a lot of people respect relationships in Hollywood, in general. (Or there are often different agreements and understandings in celebrity relationships) Also, a lot of women are trying to have babies with dudes who have money to get that good sit down money themselves.

        What I get from all of this is that Tristan has been a known dirtbag for years and, because he’s handsome and a baller, both of these women choose to ignore that and have babies by him. And they were still hurt when he did what he does anyway, after all. And they likely won’t be the last.

      • Zwella Ingrid says:

        @yup-
        Jordan and Tristan were high school sweethearts though. I would imagine that she believed they were in love, at least at first. I think when he got famous is when the worm turned. In any case, Jordan is the only one I hold blameless in this mess.

      • livealot says:

        Sorry @zwella, they may have been “highschool sweethearts” but she was briefly married to tyga(?) or someone before, so not buying that either.

    • Swack says:

      It should not have taken her being treated the same way to apologize. Knowing Jordan was pregnant she should not have started the relationship in the first place – JMO. And I’m betting she is doing some damage control right now.

    • Blue Orange says:

      This exactly. I feel bad for her. So many women fall into this trap. You have those rose tinted glasses and you don’t see the red flags for what they are. Women everywhere are doing it all the time and then the rest of us get on our high horse and judge… until it’s our turn. She’s not stupid or dumb. She’s just human.

    • Victoria says:

      How many times does this issue come up? There’s been articles all year about him being a cheater. Just move on already. For the love of god. Make up a new storyline PMK

    • CES says:

      Your ex is pregnant. There’s no being duped from that. He abandoned a pregnant woman. If that doesn’t scream bloody red flag idk what does.

  6. Eliza says:

    Just all lies. She’s the victim in her mind, always, so it can’t be karma. She’s cheated with him but didn’t want to be seen as cheated by him. She was a fool. Own it.

  7. Lightpurple says:

    “My truth” is not the same thing as “the truth.”

    • Wow says:

      Yes, there is no sliding scale of truth. There is the truth, lies and omission. Thats it. I’m ready for the concept of personal truth to go away. Its just a license to lie in most cases.

  8. CharliePenn says:

    Right. If a man has a woman currently pregnant there’s no “receipts” you could show me that would convince me it’s a good time to enter a relationship with him. She’s dumb.

    But I also think the blame should land on one person: Tristan. He abused Jordan, in my opinion it’s abusive to cause a pregnant woman so much stress that she ends up on bedrest. If the relationship won’t work out that’s one thing, you can still be a supportive pregnancy partner and put the needs of the child and the woman you impregnated first, at least while she’s still pregnant! He is a really horrible human and he’s abusive to women. If I had his daughter I wouldn’t want her around him. He’s shown that his dick is more important to him than the literal health and well-being of the women he sleeps with.

  9. anp says:

    Perhaps he just wanted to get away from her and that family of hers.

  10. hogtowngooner says:

    OMG “my truth” needs to die a fiery death.

    Khloe lives her entire life on social media and she’s trying to convince us she didn’t know whether an NBA player had a gf or not? OK….

  11. Megan says:

    Ugh. He is just not worth it.

    • schmootc says:

      I know! I mean, I guess he has $, but that wouldn’t be a factor for a Kardashian. It’s the picture where he’s holding my hands that gets me. His expression and the open mouth just make him look kinda dumb.

  12. Coco says:

    Just gross. Do not get involved with someone who’s “ex” is pregnant, regardless of what they say. Their focus should be on the health of baby, and mother, even if their relationship really is over. It’s messy, just don’t go there. My Dad left my Mom while she was pregnant for someone else and he lied up and down about the demise of their marriage. They were very much together and my Mom, myself, and my three younger brothers were completely blindsided. My Mom was also on bed rest for several months due to the stress of the entire situation and ended up driving herself to the hospital, and being put under for an emergency c-section. Even if my Dad wanted out of the marriage, he still should have been around helping my Mom and us until my sister arrived, instead of going on dates and vacations with his girlfriend (who he later married…which we found out through a newspaper announcement, but that’s a whole other level of selfishness). Even though it’s completely my Dad’s fault, what person would get involved with someone who’s partner is pregnant. It meant they were together pretty recently, right? My Dad eventually left his wife for someone else years later when she was having health problems. I’m pretty sure he lied about why he left her too. My Mom ran into her several years ago and she apologized for believing my Dad’s lies after what she’d experienced during their own breakup. If a situation seems messy, don’t get involved!

    • Been there says:

      Yeah she’s pregnant so yeah we slept together but it was just that one time I swear…🙄
      Serial cheaters tell the most outrageous lies and they tell them without any remorse.
      I’m married to one and it’s been a hellish revelation discovering the depths of the lies and betrayal.
      I’m sorry your father put your family through such pain.

    • Swack says:

      About three years after my divorce, the woman who was involved in the breakup of my marriage emailed me. She said she understood how I felt at the time of the divorce. I laughed. DIdn’t answer her because, no, she didn’t know how I felt and I couldn’t have cared less how she felt.

    • Alissa says:

      I found out my dad remarried to the woman he cheated on my mom for six years with through my grandma’s obituary, so I feel you! It sucks.

  13. BayTampaBay says:

    Kinda makes me sad because of all the Kardashians, Khloe was the one I disliked the least.

    I do not get this Tristan person. He does seem anything special what-so-ever to me.

  14. SJR says:

    All the Kartrashians…Please go away, please.

  15. Alexandria says:

    Bad publicity and half truths never hurt them before. She’s raising this again to keep in the news cycle.

    • ME says:

      I think the Jordan Woods/Tristan episode of their show is airing soon…they need the ratings.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Have not watched the shows since Kris Humphries and all that weirdness…..someone told me that the show was on its last leg. Is this true?

  16. Jen says:

    I don’t think it’s necessarily that she’s dumb as much as that she didn’t care and now she’s lying.

  17. Sassbr says:

    She’s still not taking responsibility for her head in the sand BS because then her open letter would be “I’m sorry I didn’t do more to find out the truth of the situation and I’m sorry I entered a relationship with this person in general, even though I was able to have my daughter, whom I don’t regret,” instead of “he didn’t cheat with me but if he did, he did a good job lying!”
    I mean, girl, have some humility? The proof is in the pudding-he literally turned around and did the same to her when she was 9 months pregnant and she went into labor over it. Soooo why wouldn’t you look back and apologize to the woman who was there before? Didn’t she have this crystallizing moment where she felt incredibly dumb because all the stories about his pregnant ex were true??

  18. Kittycat says:

    Gisele was a TOTALLY different situation.

    She didn’t know Bridget was pregnant and Bridget and Tom were completely over.

    Khloe is an idiot. She choose to get involved with someone whose ex was pregnant.

    Then saw as Tristan barely saw his son and decided with Tristan to have another baby.

    • DP says:

      I agree. It was messy, bad timing but not the same. As far as I know Tom wasn’t a serial cheater like Tristan either.

    • Lightpurple says:

      Bridget and Tom were very loudly and publicly over. The breakdown of their relationship was chronicled for months in the local media, every pout, argument, sulk for about six months up to the big break at Thanksgiving, including security removing her from the Patriots practice field, to the attempted reconciliation a few weeks later, to the final quiet death a week after that to Bridget’s “people” announcing she was moving on. They were no longer together when she realized she was pregnant.

    • Alissa says:

      I agree. I wish that people would stop bringing that up. She found out she was pregnant after Tom and Gisele had gotten together, and by all accounts Tom is not a serial cheater. Plus him and Gisele seem solid, and all three adults seem to be pretty adult about the situation. So comparing the two seems really unfair.

    • Zwella Ingrid says:

      That is a good point @Kittycat. Khloe totally blinded herself purposefully to have what she wanted. Even if there were no other sign, just seeing Tristan’s lack of caring for his son should have woke her up. Especially when it came to becoming pregnant herself!

  19. Suz says:

    Can you imagine meeting with someone’s lawyers before starting a relationship with them?

  20. Giddy says:

    In that first picture Khloe looks like Rachel Dolezal with money. It makes me sad that she has erased her true self so thoroughly. As for her relationship, I think she just wanted to get pregnant, and went “shopping” for good genes. She got pregnant by an athlete and didn’t care about his character or who she hurt.

    • ariel says:

      I don’t think she just wanted to get pregnant. I think she really wants the fairy tale of the perfect relationship (there’s no such thing), and mommy and daddy and baby. I think she thought that would make her happy, complete, etc.

      But she is stupid about men to the point of being mentally infirmed.
      We all have stupid moments regarding love and sex. Red flags we ignore. But she seems to live her whole life in those moments.

  21. My3cents says:

    I’m thinking she should have named her baby karma Kardashian.

  22. Ennie says:

    Her. Effing. Nose.

  23. DP says:

    She’s lying to herself.

    Even if “her truth” was true, it was cruel to be so public and over the top on social media knowing he had a pregnant ex.

    Selfish no matter how you look at it.

  24. Starkiller says:

    “My truth”? Is that anything like “alternative facts”

    • wnskjbjnd says:

      this! I absolutely hate it when people use “my truth” as a way to manipulate reality because they don’t want to believe or choose to not believe they were involved in something negative. Khloe, please just own up to the fact that you dated a cheater who ended up cheating on you. Done and done.

  25. ME says:

    I just find it weird how she’s making it seem Tristan tried so HARD to get with her. He was practically begging her lol ??? She’s not even his type if you look at the other women he’s been with and he doesn’t seem to have a hard time finding women to be with. Why was he soooo into Khloe as she’s making it seem?

    • Queen Meghan’s Hand says:

      That’s what stood out to me in Her Truth. Thompson is happily albeit unethically promiscuous. He wants all of the beautiful women who don’t look like Khloe.

      KhloKhlo thinks she’s exonerating herself by not letting go of this narrative, but she’s actually showing her complete fake ass. It’s becoming clearer that she probably poked holes in his condoms to get pregnant, always paid the bill on dates and travel, and ignored his “cheating” (was it even cheating if it was never a committed monogamous relationship?) as long as he was discreet which he mostly was.

  26. VintageS says:

    She should write fiction, science fiction. I loved the part about his “inner circle”.

    What a liar!

  27. Lory says:

    Didn’t Khloe troll Jordan Craig on Twitter during the early days of the relationship? I don’t have receipts but does anyone else remember this?

    • NewbieToo says:

      Yes she did. She also got together with at least 2 other exes when they were either still with someone else (one was a friend of hers) or very recently or not entirely separated. She lies as much as everyone else in her trash bag family.

  28. geekychick says:

    I don’t believe her. As seen with Odom, I think her M.O. is to “take” a guy that is already involved. ai think it makes her feel uber-attractive and desirable, an extra proof of that to her family and public at large (due to constantly feeling like an “ugly sister”).
    I’d understand that if she was 16-year old, but not in her 30ies.
    you can’t steal a man, absolutely. Thompson is the main responsible for breakup of his rs. But the other woman had a choice, also. And in this particular case, you can’t tell me that Khloe’s flounting of Thompson in public, from the first weeks of “dating” wasn’t a cause of most of Craig’s stress. She couldn’t keep it under wraps for few months? Of course she couldn’t, she jad to show her trophy!

  29. Otaku fairy... says:

    My sympathy is for Jordan and her kid in this situation. This all says a lot about Tristan either way. Even if Khloe is telling the truth, I just don’t think dating someone with a pregnant ex is a good decision, or considerate of the mom and baby even if they really are done as a couple. Sometimes exes do have sex again even though they’ve called it quits, but to me a pregnant ex would be a red flag.

  30. HeyThere! says:

    I mean…..if you have to get lawyers, close mincer circles, texts correspondence, and their family involved just to see if they really are single…..YOU NEED TO RUN AWAY. This is such a huge red flag. Needing all this from the word go?! Sometimes people just want to be in love and in a relationship so bad they can’t open their eyes to the facts right under their noses.

  31. MrsPanda says:

    Yeah she totally knew, she’s well connected and Tristan doesn’t strike me as the smartest tool in the shed. I doubt he could have manipulated her to that degree (nor cared to). Kris Jenner pretty much owns TMZ and they can track and find anything about anyone. So take a seat Khloe, Tristan is a douche who treated her badly but she knew what she was (trying to) do.

  32. Annie says:

    You knew Khloe. He left her for you. If the pregnancy is still ongoing, they were not “long broken up.” Grow up. It’s not even the only time you got involved with someone who had a partner. Karma is a bitch!

  33. Lynne says:

    He ‘chose to go out on a blind date with me’. Doesn’t that mean she initiated it? She was at a wedding where he was with his pregnant girlfriend. So, it doesn’t take a super easy google search to see what his status was although she or her personal assistant could have done one easily. She chose to F him…..she got pregnant….why would she think she can make fetch happen?

    • Tourmaline says:

      I also like the bit about ‘after going on some dates’ he revealed a pregnant ex. Hmm how many dates was that Khloe? She just didn’t care. And yeah she really picked a great father for her daughter.

  34. Bkittyb says:

    Khloe is not dumb, nor was she duped. She gave no thought about Jordan and now that she is being called out for catching a bit of well-deserved karma, she’s spinning the story for damage control… Khloe, it’s above us now.

    • BaeBae says:

      ITS 👏🏾A👏🏾BOVE 👏🏾US 👏🏾NOW👏🏾

      I’ve literally been saying this all week and this situation is the PERFECT time to use it.

  35. JoJo says:

    Jordan’s cousin is Eniko Hart(Kevin Hart’s wife).Khloe and Tristan met at Kevin and Eniko’s wedding.I find it very interesting that she wrote all that but fail to mention she met him at Jordan’s (his pregnant girlfriend) cousin( Eniko) wedding.

  36. AG-UK says:

    She is tiring and what did she do to her nose? Also petty but is “him and his ex” correct vs he and his ex.

  37. Yes Doubtful says:

    She is dumber than a box of rocks. If someone has to go to that length to prove to you that they are honest after only a few dates, then say goodbye. There are plenty of eligible men out there, why go for the one with all the baggage? It’s a shame that he cheated on Khloe, but I can’t garner much sympathy for her. She made her bed…

  38. styla says:

    There’s always some kind of overlap in every relationship. EVERY. If you can say there isn’t then its not you with the overlap.

  39. Cale says:

    Of course he keeps the zip tie on his off-whites.

  40. Raina says:

    These women date young athletes with pregnant girlfriends and think it’ll be different with them. Odds are nope.
    All these women raising their kids by themselves and fighting for a good chunk of money to do it is sad. All in a span of months.
    At least Khloe cam financially provide if that douche bailed.
    Tristan is a piece of shit who will oneday regret why his kids hate him.

  41. minnie mouse says:

    Gee Wiz Do these Kardashian idiots ever learn, that whatever they say and do is always tabloid fodder.

  42. Raina says:

    You know what else truly troubles me? The unnecessary cycle of it all. It’s basically: Have kids with someone you don’t know well enough, feign surprise when they almost always inevitably stray, take your child support, go to court, ask for more, battle and find another guy, blame everyone but yourself, raise your kid with plenty of money yet zero guidance and watch them do the same fucking thing.
    It’s a well known recipe for disaster and only the smart ones don’t invest into that life.