Duchess Meghan actually brought Archie to the palace for Trooping the Colour

The British Royal Family attends Trooping the Colour Ceremony

As I’ve said a few times this week, I was really hoping for some fun, dumb gossip from last weekend’s Trooping the Colour. Instead, we just got the regular old Meg-haters who basically danced a jig because Meghan – gasp! – hasn’t lost all of her pregnancy weight in a month. The dumb cruelty, my lord. Trooping the Colour was also notable – but not scandalous – because it appeared that Meghan and Kate were getting along rather well. Yes, it was a performance for both women, but it worked.

Meghan Markle and Kate Middleton came together to celebrate the Queen in a stunning display of unity. The royal sisters-in-law delighted fans during their Trooping the Colour appearance on Saturday. Not only was it Meghan’s first appearance since introducing son Archie to the world, but she and Prince Harry rode in the same horse-drawn carriage as Kate and Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, on their way to Buckingham Palace. (Last year, Meghan and Harry rode separately in their own carriage, while Kate and Camilla sat together.)

“Everybody was smiling and looked happy,” Emma Forbes, a U.K. journalist whose father, filmmaker Bryan Forbes, had ties to the royal family, tells PEOPLE in this week’s issue. “It was a real moment of continuity.”

Missing was any sign of interpersonal fallout from last month’s announcement that Harry and his brother, Prince William, were dissolving the Royal Foundation charity that the two couples shared. (A source called the move, which followed the brothers’ separating their joint court at Kensington Palace, “a natural progression.”)

“Meghan was chatting to the Duchess of Cambridge, and they were getting on well,” says Joe Little, managing editor of Majesty. Adds royal photographer Mark Stewart: “Meghan was animated and happy to be there honoring the Queen.”

[From People]

That was People’s big royal story – just a bunch of people who noted the same thing I did: Kate and Meghan seem to be fine. Left unspoken is whether Harry and William even speak that much these days. The brothers seem to have difficulties putting in these kinds of happy-looking appearances. As for the little royal cousins… Us Weekly says that Meghan actually did bring Private Archie to Buckingham Palace, he just wasn’t on camera:

A family affair! Duchess Meghan made her first royal outing after giving birth to her son, Archie, and the infant enjoyed the quality family time as well.

“Archie was at Trooping the Colour,” a source told Us Weekly exclusively of the Saturday, June 8, parade in this week’s issue. “[It] was a chance for him to meet some of his cousins.”

The insider went on to say, “The reason Harry and Meghan didn’t appear on the balcony when the Queen returned back to Buckingham Palace was because she was breast-feeding.”

During the parade, the former actress, 37, had a hard time being away from her baby boy. “She has spent almost every moment with him and saying goodbye was very difficult,” the source told Us. “But Meghan truly wanted to be at the celebration for the queen. … Meghan loved seeing all the other royal children and was doting on them.”

[From Us Weekly]

I wonder if this is true and Archie was around for Trooping, and some of the other kids got to meet him. I wonder if that’s why Kate was being so nice to Meghan in the carriage – Kate was buttering up Meghan so Meg would let Kate hold the baby! Kate’s like a professional baby cuddler these days. No, I jest. Archie probably was there because Meghan’s a new mom and she didn’t want to be apart from Archie for a few hours, plus the feeding schedule, plus the extended family probably wanted to see Archie too.


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  1. OSTONE says:

    I never bought the fact Kate and Meg were at odds. I am not saying they are besties (I don’t know any sisters-in-law who are) but they are obviously cordial to each other. It was easier to sell the “duchesses at war” story when in reality it was William and Harry the ones who were pouting at each other all this time.

    • Himmiefan says:

      It seems like this article is trying to stir up something, but I’ve never bought it that there was tension between the two. People seem to go to extremes: they have to be BFFs or enemies. The reality is very normal: two nice women who have their own interests and their own families to worry about. Frankly, it would be nice if they teamed up more, but William might get jealous of the attention.

    • Mumbles says:

      Kate is lazy, and waity, and a social climber, but I never got the impression that she was bitchy or mean. We would have heard stories if that was the case. So I too never bought the line that these two were at odds.

      I have not seen any stories criticizing Meghan for not having lost baby weight. But if there are, jeez. It’s a lot more relatable than Kate going on juice fasts to get that weight off.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Never bought for a minute that there was a “beef” between Cathy & Meghan as Megan was a godsend for Cathy’s reputation, how Cathy is perceived by the UK royal watching public and nasty troll posters of the Daily Fail commentariat.

      • Sassy says:

        Well there were stories that she and her sister were mean girling the York sisters.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Many stories of her mean girling and bullying other women through the years.

      • Both of those women are high grade social cmimbers– and there’s nothing wrong that. Not one is better than the other.

      • Kittycat says:


        Meghan isnt a social climber though.

      • BayTampaBay says:


        Maybe Meghan is a social climber and maybe she is not a social climber. It would depend on how one defined “social climber”.

      • Mumbles says:

        I had heard it was the York sisters who meangirled the Middletons. Something about not telling Kate that a party was a “fancy dress” (costume) party. And then there were all those rules enacted after Kate married about her curtseying to “blood princesses.”

        I’m not saying that Meghan is a social climber but given that two years ago she was a supporting actor on a basic cable show, she’s done very well. That said it’s nothing like what the Middletons did (e.g. sending the girls to Marlborough, having Kate take a year off so she could go to Saint Andrews the same time as William).

      • Mary says:

        Whooaaa, @Mumbles, you have it wrong there on the “fancy dress” party story . . . it was an event organized by Kate for charity and the story goes that she invited Beatrice and did not tell Bea that the party was fancy dress. Also, it is reported that Kate told Bea to f off at the bar. This was all reported by Katie Nicholl who actually found Beatrice in the bathroom crying about Kate’s treatment of her.

        There are, as others have stated, multiple reports of Kate meangirling women that come too close to William.

        Someone refresh my memory . . . who was the aristocratic “it girl” back in the day that said that Kate would hang out right next to William at parties and give any girl that dared to talk to him the stink eye until the interloper left….?

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate dedicated her entire life to being in William’s path to eventually get engaged and married. She didn’t have any job for a significant period of time and centered her entire social existence around him. Meghan met Harry in 2016 for the first time after having already been married to someone else, divorced and had a long term job on a different continent. Let’s stop pretending this is the same thing. Meghan may be ambitious but she did far more in her time as an adult than just be available for one guy to possibly propose. Marrying does raise Meghan’s profile, but social climbing usually means someone who has focussed exclusively on getting married to a man with a higher social standing. Outside of the conspiracy loons who pretend that Meghan has been planning this since she visited London as a teen, there is zero evidence she planned her entire adult life around Harry marrying her. Kate on the other hand cannot point to having done anything else from ages 17 to 29.

      • thea says:

        @mumbles, you have it mixed up. it was kate who didn’t tell b that it was fancy dress. and the whole curtseying to blood princess wasn’t enacted after kate, it was enacted before she was part of the rf cause anne didn’t want to curtsey camilla.

      • Feeshalori says:

        Actually, Mumbles, the story about Bea and Kate is the reverse as other commentators have pointed out. And because Anne refused to curtsy to Camilla as a married in, the Queen instituted the whole blood princess curtsy protocol.

  2. Enn says:

    Not surprising, since my friend gave birth right before Meg and she’s nursing or pumping every 2-3 hours. But why didn’t Harry go out without her?

    I think Louis was at Trooping last year as well, just inside.

    • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:


    • Elizabeth Mahon says:

      Anyone looking at the pictures could see Meghan and Harry on the balcony!

      • TheHeat says:

        @Elizabeth – This is exactly what I came in to say. Harry & Meghan WERE on the balcony.

      • Enn says:

        The only photos I saw were with TQ on the balcony so I took the article at face value.

      • Mae says:

        I think they are talking about the first time (ppl went out on the balcony twice) ppl went out to the balcony and the Sussexes weren’t there. It was when the queen’s carriage arrived back to BP, and some of the royals went out to “greet her”. Camilla and Kate went out but not their kids. And Harry and Meghan didn’t presumably because she is feeding Archie. But they were there the second time when the Queen and the whole extended clan plus all the kids went out.

      • oddly says:

        Meghan feeding the baby shouldn’t have affected Harry going out on the balcony twice. Harry never seems happy or spontaneous when ever William or other senior Royals are about any more, just doing the minimum with no inter action, he is certainly p**sed off about something family related. When he is out and about on solo duties he is his back to his old self.

    • Lunde says:

      I think the babies are almost always at the palace but stay inside because it is really loud out on the balcony. I used to live on the flypast route and it was noisy enough to shake the china in my cupboards so would be too much for a 4 week old baby.

  3. Becks1 says:

    This makes total sense to me. If she is BFing, for that length of time at that age, she would either need to pump or nurse, and nursing was probably the easier choice. and that way more family members got to meet him if they hadn’t yet.

    • Seraphina says:

      My thoughts too. And it’s a family affair. He was brought as it should be.

    • LeaTheFrench says:

      Exactly. The event was several hours long, if I remember correctly. Your breasts would start leaking toward the end (not to mention the discomfort.)

    • PrincessK says:

      Well as soon as l saw that she was the Trooping event l said Archie was in the Palace. I can’t imagine why anyone would think otherwise.

      Would the parents leave a month old baby miles away in Windsor for the whole day, when there is plenty of room and help on hand at Buckingham Palace?

  4. Aang says:

    My first wouldn’t not take a bottle for anything. I was set to stand up in a friend’s wedding when he was 3 months and he still was eating on demand, no schedule. My mom came to church and sat in the garden with the baby and I was able to feed before and after the ceremony. She also came to the reception and they were very kind to provide us with a room where my mom could read a book, the baby could sleep, and I could pop in to feed if needed. We left right after dinner but I got to participate. So I believe this story is plausible and not really out of the norm.

    • Anitas says:

      Also Archie is also barely a month old, right? I remember being recommended to avoid introducing bottles for the first 6 weeks, if you don’t want to cause nipple confusion and risk your milk supply.
      How amazing it would be if she or any other royal women were able to breastfeed their kids in public like us plebs.

    • Ash says:

      @AANG seriously!!! If you were my bridesmaid, I would would have been pissed! 3 months and didn’t take a
      d forbid you had an emergency and were away from your baby! No baby has has ever died due to starvation becausadvancldidn’tp
      take a bottle! You made a commitment way in advance

    • Chloe says:

      My son refused a bottle until he was close to 6-months-old and my husband “tricked” him into doing it after MONTHS of working hard at it (and I had to not be home at all). I had to leave work to feed him at lunchtime while also pumping twice a day AND he was starting to reverse feed as a result of only eating when I’d come home at lunchtime. It was a tough few months.

  5. JaneDoesWork says:

    Makes total sense to me, good for Meg!

  6. Casey20 says:

    Kate was nice because she had dressed Louis like Harry…passive aggressive! If Kate stopped with all the foolishness maybe they could become friends. Kate seems to believe women should be in competition instead of a friendship. They both could learn from each other…

    • Blue Orange says:

      I think that is an awful lot of speculation. Kate seems to have just been doing her thing (as odd as it seems) by putting Louis in that outfit. If I had a relative that did that, I wouldn’t be offended. I actually don’t think I’d care either way.

      Women have always had societal pressures to compete with one another in terms of looks and attention from men, while men compete for jobs and money. There is probably an underlying competitiveness with both Kate & Meghan but I doubt very much it’s any greater than exists in most friendships.

      • Casey20 says:

        Blue Orange: you don’t find it odd that Kate dressed Louis like Harry Fir his first TC? All this knowing that Harry has a newborn son. Do you think it should’ve crossed her mind that maybe Harry wanted to see his son wearing that outfit for his first TC?

        As far as friends, I don’t see that. I see two women trying to find common ground. Maybe talking about babies. Kate would ruin that within a hours time.

      • Erinn says:

        “Do you think it should’ve crossed her mind that maybe Harry wanted to see his son wearing that outfit for his first TC”

        I mean, can he not still do that? It’s not like the outfit fits yet. I doubt Harry was surprised by this at all – I wouldn’t be surprised if the outfits were given to them to use when George was little – well before Meghan and Harry were even a thing.

      • minx says:

        Casey, you know Kate, then….?

      • Blue Orange says:

        “Kate would ruin that within an hours time”… wow… just wow. You speak as though you know her so well.

        As for the outfits thing, I really don’t get why people get so worked up about it. I don’t know how things are in the US but in the UK families from every background tend to pass down kids clothes. Whether they’re broke and on benefits or from aristocracy, they still do it. It makes sense that Kate has first dibs on those clothes because her kids are older than baby Archie but I bet they’ll be passed onto him.

      • Margaret says:

        There are pictures of baby William wearing that outfit with Prince Charles, so the gossip that Kate was using Harry’s outfit is wrong…William wore it first. Maybe we will get to see Archie wear it next year 🙂

      • Olenna says:

        The embroidery on William’s shirt was slightly different and it wasn’t just Harry’s shirt that got some people’s attention. It was also because KM wore a yellow outfit like Anne when she held baby Harry (in that outfit) on the balcony. Personally, I don’t care what the kids wear but, together, it all seems a bit too coincidental.

    • tempest prognosticator says:

      I always find it interesting how people can look at the same event or situation and see it so differently. I’m saying this without snark. I realize it all comes down to perspective. I honestly don’t see how dressing Louis in Harry’s clothes is a sign of competition.

    • amanda says:

      Kate has been doing throwback theme dressing since she got engaged to William. How many times has she done a Diana throwback? Buttons, jeggings and throwbacks are just Kate’s niche. I hardly think it has anything to do with competing with Meghan.

      • Becks1 says:

        I am almost here, that it was just Kate being Kate, except that she wore yellow, which seems weirdly designed to recreate the look from Harry’s TTC, where Princess Anne is in yellow and holding him. That was the part that really made me think, “this is…weird, even for Kate.” She clearly wanted pictures comparing Louis to Harry and she wanted to be in yellow like Anne. That’s what made it REALLY weird to me.

        I don’t think it was intended as either an insult to Harry or as some sign of secret support for Harry. I just thought it was weird.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Wearing a similar shirt to William or Harry would be strange. Wearing a shirt that was either 1) Harry’s or 2) a copy of Harry’s is weird.

      • Blue Orange says:

        @Becks1, I hadn’t realised that there was a photo of Anne holding Harry and wearing yellow. That is odd to such an extent that I wonder whether it was maybe not intentional at all. Either that or Kate realises that she gets press with these throwbacks and that’s why she’s perhaps so keen on it.

    • Nora says:

      I agree Casey20. Kate should dress her kids in William’s clothes, if you are going to throwback do it with their father’s clothes. Harry has a son now and what if Meghan wants to pass on those outfits to Archie? Even if Meghan doesn’t, Kate needs to stop taking Harry’s things to give to her kids, personally I thought that was very passive aggressive too.

      • Erinn says:

        I said this above but who’s to say he won’t be able to? You’re assuming that Kate won’t hand them back now that the kids have gotten bigger and now that Harry has kids. My own sister in law has set aside baby things in case I ever need them. It’s not a crazy idea that she had Harry’s blessing to use them well before now, and that she will hand them back now that he has a son. But it’s not like Archie fits in the outfit yet. And who’s to say it wasn’t an outfit William also wore at some point that was handed down to Harry?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Agreed, Nora. It is passive aggressive of her to claim Harry’s things this way.

      • L84MYTEA says:

        It’s possible that Kate won’t dress Louis in William’s clothes because he’s not the heir. Harry was Diana’s second son so she dresses Louis (her 2nd son) like him. I think it’s passive aggressive but I hope Meghan does her own thing with Archie.

      • Lunde says:

        It’s totally normal in most families to pass stuff down and for other family members to make use of them. There is a prized dress that my kids were the 8th and 9th to inherit.

        For all we know it may have been Williams outfit before it was Harry’s – there is certainly a photo of William in very similar shorts with Diana coming off the plane for the 1983 Australia tour.

        Perhaps Meghan and Harry have declined to use any old clothes – I’m pretty sure there was an article before Archie was born that claimed Meghan wasn’t going to dress her child in traditional clothing.

        It must be exhausting trying to twist and turn to construe everything that Kate does in a negative perspective.

      • V. says:

        Probably it was worn by William before Harry. There’re pics of William wearing a very similar outfit in any case. And George wore an identical outfit in red. I think those are both replicas that were purchased for George. So nothing to do with Harry and Meghan.

    • Aang says:

      There are photos of William in an almost identical outfit. The kids are always dressed old fashioned for these things and this year color was blue. I honestly think it was no more than that. I can go online and buy an entire wardrobe of mid century kids dress clothes that look just like that.

    • Casey20 says:

      The point is that there are historical photos of both PW and PH’s first TC. Kate had the opportunity to have George dress like PW for his first TC. Why Kate found the need to dress Louis for his first TC like Harry for his first TC just boggles the mind. She never considered that PH wanted the same opportunity for his son. It’s just odd and she could’ve been more considerate on this issue. Passive Aggressive Kate

      • Nico says:

        It’s a children’s outfit, who gives a shit? Calm down.

      • Nora says:

        Kate is very competitive, anything to make a statement, make statement with your husband childhood clothes.
        Who takes clothes of a brother-in-law to give their child when that brother-in-law just had a first male son. In my opinion Kate knew exactly what she was doing. What else will she want to take in the future ifshe thinks she can? She needs to stop.

      • Robinda says:

        Much more plausible than this convoluted nonsense is that Kate asked if they minded and no one did.

      • minx says:

        Robinda, yes. I bet that’s exactly what happened.

      • Ellie says:

        Casey has it completely wrong for sure. Firstly that was NOT Harry’s first TTC. He made his debut in 1985 when he was much younger and was wearing something else. Secondly that outfit isn’t specifically connected to Harry – William was pictured wearing that (or one similar) before Harry did. I’d understand if it was something only Harry wore but it wasn’t. Thirdly it doesn’t matter if Louis wore it, Meghan can still dress Archie in that in the future. Casey you’re making a huge assumption that it will be unusable now just because Kate dressed her son in it. Harry has a son now – so??? He’s nowhere near old enough to wear what you claim to be “Harry’s first TTC outfit.”

      • Anitas says:

        Wow you seem to be projecting a lot of trust issues onto Kate.

      • Chrissyms says:

        I thought of it as a nod of respect. To let us know that everything is AOK! It’s just an outfit. Archie could wear it next year. I find it funny how everyone is getting up in arms about it. The boys in my husbands family all wear there grandpas baptism outfit to the christenings. Nobody is fighting about it.

      • Becks1 says:

        @ellie – no, William did not wear that outfit. He wore something similar but not exact. Kate chose an exact outfit that Harry had worn, rather than repeating what William wore for his first TTC (which also seems to be what Harry wore for his first, and what George wore for his first.)

        Honestly I don’t think I would have batted an eye at it (since Kate does like to do the throwback thing) except like I said, she wore yellow to mirror the look of Harry’s TTC back in the day, and I thought it was weird that she re-created Diana’s look when Harry was born, when Louis was born. Like, leave some Diana cosplay for Meghan!

        But honestly, I think its weird, but not sinister. I just think its a really weird quirk of Kate’s, to try to specifically recreate these past looks, but I don’t think it means she hates Harry or is trying to upstage Meghan. I doubt she thinks of it like that.

      • Nic919 says:

        I don’t understand why she didn’t have Louis wear the same outfit that George did for his first TTC. That way both sons wore what their father did. Going to an outfit that is recorded in photographs by being worn by an uncle seems odd. I don’t think there was any evil intention but realistically Archie is probably not going to wear the same thing next year even if Meghan did want to do cosplay.

      • Moneypenny says:

        Maybe Louis didn’t fit in the same outfit that George wore? Seems like an easy enough explanation, and one that certainly would’ve applied to my own kids.

    • leena says:

      Casey you either have some amazing insider knowledge, you should start writing novels.

      Or you need help! 😆

    • Hazel says:

      What an in-depth conversation about people you don’t even know…lol!

    • Meganbot2000 says:

      Maybe she wanted to do a nice thing and honour her son’s uncle? Maybe Harry knew about it, because they’re family and presumably actually talk to each other?

  7. Sassy says:

    Based on how different the mothers are and how Archie wasn’t given multiple family names, Louis can keep all those old things. Archie will be his own person not his dad mini me or his mommy’s 80’s cosplay project.

  8. minx says:

    I can’t wait to see pictures of Archie at some point.

    • Anitas says:

      I’m really curious what he’ll look like. I have a mixed race child and it’s remarkable how much he changes as he grows.

      • leena says:

        @ Anita, I hope you don’t mind me asking but do you mean changing as all children do or that his mixed ethnicity shows differently at different times of his life?

      • Anitas says:

        I think it’s a bit of both. All children change a lot as they grow, but I think when you have parents of the same racial background it’s easier to imagine what the child will look like. With parents of different races I think there’s a wider range of variations. But who knows… genetics is complicated and fascinating. My son’s hair colour, texture and skin tone have all changed considerably in less than 2 years since he was born. The winter/summer switch is remarkable. He’s quite fair skinned with rosy cheeks in the winter, but as soon as he gets a little sun exposure he starts looking so much like his Dad who is biracial like Meghan, probably a shade or two darker than her for most of the year.

      • minx says:

        I can imagine. My husband and I have similar coloring and have similar nationalities and even our kids’ looks changed a lot from year to year.

      • Moneypenny says:

        It’s not just mixed race kids, but any black kids. Many black people do not end up the same color they were at birth, so you can get a lot of skin tone changes for years.

      • Meganbot2000 says:

        I’m mixed, and this was true for me. I had black hair and yellowish skin when I was a baby and would not pass for a ‘white’ baby. When I was one all my hair fell out and grew back white blonde. I was very very blonde (but with dark brown eyes and black eyebrows and eyelashes) till I was about 10 or 11, and I looked super Caucasian. Then my hair started to darken and people mostly assume I’m Italian or something.

        My mum had afro hair, my hair is dead straight except for one kinky/curly bit at the nape of the neck. Weird how these things come out genetically.

      • PrincessK says:

        Very true. When l was born my skin tone was actually darker than it is now, and my mother was surprised when my skin got lighter. It is usually the other way around.

    • notasugarhere says:

      They managed to sneak him in and out of BP without being seen. We might get an IG post for Father’s Day. Fingers crossed they can do the same around the christening. Official photos only, released some time in the next few months, and no pap shots.

      • Lunde says:

        According to DM the Sussex’s have hired a nanny so it was probably easy to sneak Archie in without being noticed

      • PrincessK says:

        The Sussexes move around a lot without being seen.

  9. Sippingroyaltea says:

    People are making way too big of a deal of Louis wearing Harry’s old clothes. Baby clothes get passed around families all the time there’s no shade or conspiracy on Kate’s part because that was just an outfit Harry wore to Trooping one year. It’s not even the outfit he wore to his first Trooping which also wouldn’t be a big deal to me but at least I might understand the anger so I need folks to chill.

    • Yami says:

      The thing is this that this isn’t a normal family. This is a family on the world stage whose every move is noted and analyzed. For Kate to take something that belonged to Harry and put it on her own child is eyebrow raising at least, particularly since he now has his own child. Why would Kate need to do that when this family is huge and presumably there are tons of children’s clothes in that family to be borrowed or lent? I can’t help but see it as a deliberate move.

  10. VintageS says:

    Meghan’s face is still just a little rounder than usual which looks adorable for her.

  11. GR says:

    Seriously, people are on Meghan for not having lost weight? So she’s a size 4 instead of a size 2? People are just nuts.

    • Anitas says:

      It’s disheartening people still think it’s acceptable to comment on a new mother’s looks like that. If there is ever a time you’d expect the society pressure to always be thin and polished eases up a little, it’s pregnancy and post-partum. But nothing is off limits.

      • Brandy Alexander says:

        I’m assuming it was people commenting on the Daily Mail (but I did read some and didn’t see any comments on her weight). But I haven’t seen any headlines or articles on it, so I don’t believe it’s the big things this this article is claiming. And if people really are commenting that – it’s likely the same people who were saying she wasn’t pregnant to begin with, because people that ignorant can’t even seem to get their own complaints straight.

        Anyway, I hope Kate & Megs are both enjoying motherhood and sharing lots of notes. I hope they form a bond and truly get along.

  12. celialarson12 says:

    If my sister in law came for a major family occassion, with her last child dressed in my husband`s clothes from 30 years ago, I would die of laughter and then start speculating on the creepiness of it all. And this is especially if I had just given birth to a child of the same sex a month earlier. However it would depend on the clothes. I liked the clothes George wore to the first TTC.

    That being said, we might just have gotten the hardest working member of the Cambridge family. Did anybody see the enthusiasm with which little Louis was waving !!!? That boy had really been prepared for the occassion !!!

    • Nic919 says:

      Louis seemed very comfortable and happy in that setting and that is nice to see. Overall he seems like a very happy baby.

  13. Karmak says:

    I think it is getting a little strange that Kate does cosplay with Diana’s throwback iconic pictures. When Kate and William did the Louis leaving the hospital pics is when I first noticed Kate doing the Harry and Diana copycat pic theme. Diana wore a red dress with a white collar carrying baby Harry. Kate did the red dress with a white collar carrying a baby Louis. Now Kate is doing the same thing with another iconic photo of Harry and his Auntie. I don’t think Harry and Meghan will let baby Archie wear any of Harry’s baby clothes. If anything Meghan is now going to start new trends for baby wear. She now knows that Kate is going to use all of Harry’s baby clothes to get press attention. Why would they want Archie compared to his cousin by the press.
    I have no problem with Kate dressing her kids in Williams old baby clothes. I think it is cute. But why use your brother in-laws baby clothes? Why use Harry’s photos and images that he cherish of him and his mother. Archie will see these copycat photos one day. The confusion of which one is you and my grandmother? And why is auntie the Queen and Cousin Louis wearing the same thing?. Head trip photo time at the Sussex house.

    • minx says:

      Do you think it’s possible that Kate asked and received permission to use the outfit? That it was thought to be a nice inclusive gesture? I don’t see why Archie can’t still wear it. And I doubt older Archie is going to be noticing or caring who wore what in some old pictures.

    • Ellie says:

      Oh yes, I’m sure Kate dug around in the family albums for past TTC looks and decided to find the old “Harry outfit” (it’s not) for Louis and specifically got that yellow dress made to mirror Anne. I’m confused and pretty sure everyone here is confused to- pretty sure the idea was Kate was trying to mirror Diana… but now it’s claimed she was mirroring Anne. Can ya’ll just make up your minds here?

      • minx says:

        Kate sneaked into a room at midnight and tore apart closets and dressers looking for the outfit. When she found it she cackled “Victory is mine!” and twirled it over her head in a dance of triumph.

      • Becks1 says:

        Of course Kate dug around and looked at past TTC pictures. I don’t think that’s at all far fetched.

        I feel like the people insisting this is normal and not at all creepy are way more pressed about this than those who find it weird, lol.

      • Karmak says:

        Kate my have gotten permission to wear Harry’s clothes. I just notice the photos because the press are doing side by side photos of the old and news pics. They even showed Anne in a yellow outfit holding baby Harry (Kate wears a yellow outfit but not the same). As far as the red dress I remember watching the breaking news when Harry was born ( yes I am telling my age). KP could be approving of this inconic pictures recreation theme, I don’t know. But they need to rethink this copying Harry baby photos. One is ok. But now there is a second one. Kate doesn’t need to do this. Her kids are super cute. The public likes her. I just think it is getting strange to keep doing this with Harry’s baby photos.

      • Tourmaline says:

        The idea of Kate deliberately mirroring Anne (!) from 30 years ago is ahh far-fetched IMO….I think the yellow stemmed more maybe from wanting to wear that hat again and wanting an outfit to match the hat.

    • Tinanat says:

      Yep, competitive and passive aggresdive nature coming out. I mean if you don’t have the workk ethic, use the past clothes, anything to get some Sussex popularity rubbing on you.

  14. leena says:

    I think people/reporters who go back thirty years and pore over old photos either need to get a life or have too much time on their hands. I can’t even remember what I wore yesterday! 😆

  15. Tinanat says:

    It’s just creepy to give your child clothes from his uncle, yet the uncle just had his own son. I mean Kate knows reporters and royal watchers are watching, maybe that’s the point? – to get attention.

    • Ellie says:

      It’s more weird that people seem bothered by it honestly. Archie can still wear it when he’s old enough.

      • leena says:

        +1 Ellie

      • Elisa says:


      • Bren says:

        Imagine the headlines if Meghan dresses Archie in that outfit a year after Louis made his public debut? The comparisons would be unfavorable to Meghan and Archie. No thank you.

        If Kate got permission to dress Louis in Harry’s outfit, fine. No harm. But what’s bothersome is that we don’t know if permission was given. We’re just giving Kate the benefit of the doubt that she gave Harry & Meghan the option. Anyway, it would have been a sweet moment if we saw Harry’s outfit again for the first time in decades on Archie instead.

      • PrincessK says:

        Oh well…Meghan can go into the old clothing box and grab something William wore and plonk it onto Archie, then they would be quits. Lol 😝

      • Kajhela says:

        This. I thought it was already stated that Meghan didn’t want to dress Archie up in the stuffy, formal, traditional clothes? That’s not coming from me – it was said here a while ago in an article, shrugs. Tradition and formality is very much upheld in my culture, so this is very sweet, to me. Baby clothes are passed down and worn by different cousins. It’s interesting how people are making such a creepy weird deal out of this. If Harry wants to dress his baby boy in his baby clothes.. he will. I don’t think anyone has “dibs” on cherished baby clothes, how ridiculous!

  16. Ellie says:


    I wasn’t aware these outfits ‘belonged’ to anyone in the family. William first wore it and then it has been passed down.

  17. Ellie says:

    Doesn’t matter an ounce – they are all very similar, which was how George’s first TTC outfit AND his outfit to Charlotte’s christening still mirrored William’s (eventhough they weren’t the same exact ones). By your statement George’s outfit would not have been mirroring solely because they weren’t the same ones. Harry’s first TTC outfit in 1985 also looked a lot like William’s in 1984, only the collars were different. So is it now going to be claimed George’s outfit was infact mirroring Harry’s? (In the case where everyone is ignorant of William wearing a very similar look before Harry just like Louis’s outfit – but even if he didn’t it still doesn’t matter).

    • V. says:

      I think the shirts are replicas because Harry was older than Louis and in theory it wouldn’t fit. George wore the same shirt (identical) in red. Maybe they were purchased for him in red and blue?

  18. HeyThere! says:

    I am one of those women who had a horrible time being away from my baby for anything longer than a pee break. I had the baby nap right next to me, or I wear the baby, or I would hold the baby and rock. Not kidding. Everyone is different but I would have been freaking out and not able to do what Meghan did. I also had PPAnxiety and I’m on medication for it still. I wasn’t on medicine right away as I didn’t know this wasn’t the normal for everyone. I thought my kids would die if they were out of my sight. Every nap was next to me so I could make sure they were alive. I know it doesn’t make sense to a healthy mind but I could not be away from them at all. I spent months and months with only a 2 minute showers here and there away from my babies. It’s an internal struggle but the medication has helped turn off the ‘death at every corner’ thoughts, thankfully. I’m back to living instead of every worst case playing over and over in my mind 24/7.

    • kristen says:

      Also went through this. Sitting through a parade and the balcony stuff would have been excruciating for me.

  19. Petra says:

    Oh please, of course she went digging into the past looking for those clothes, no doubt about it. Stop taking, I mean taking Archie’s father past clothes, Kate! There I said it.

  20. RoyalBlue says:

    I don’t get it. I thought nothing of her letting Louis wear the outfit. All the kids dress like they are in the 1950s. I think all the clothing goes in a pool and you can pick and choose at will. Makes most economic sense too. I really think there is no spite here. I honestly don’t think Kate is that devious and would do it in such a public manner.

    • Ellie says:

      “All the kids dress like they are in the 1950s” – exactly! I’ve always noticed this even before George was seen wearing those type of clothes. Sophie always kept her daughter in clothes of a different era, young Louise always looked like she dressed for the 60s with that hair and small frumpy dresses for a pre-teen. You could say the same for Diana and Sarah even way back in the 80s, their kids clothes were out of trend by then. Diana even ‘cosplayed’ William and Harry with their father, William’s blue dungarees for example is a very good similarity with Charles’ (I’ve seen him wearing in family photos from the 50s). So what Kate does is nowhere near a new thing.

  21. Geraldine says:

    Meghan looked beautiful and peaceful. I like that she brought Archie to meet most of the family at the same time.

    As for “cosplay80s” it was a move that was deliberate and intentional on Kate’s part. She knows Meghan just had a son, Harry’s first son. Maybe Meghan would want to use some of those clothes, how can she if Kate is taking these clothes. Meghan better get Harry’s childhood things before Kate grabs it all!

  22. Karmak says:

    William did have a similar baby outfit and Harry may have got it as a hand me down. But Harry wore it for his a first TC balcony photo with his Auntie holding him (wearing a yellow outfit).
    A Christian gown is a family heirloom …..multiple family members are going to wear it.
    Kate didn’t have to go digging for the outfits. There are hundreds of photos of Diana and boys in books , documentaries, and magazines all over the world. I have one. You simply have it recreated/remade if don’t have the original. Some people think it is ok for the Royal family to do this. But this not tradition. It is something Kate started as far as I know. Sure we all get hand downs, I did. What is going on with cosplay photos is strange to some of us. Kate is not getting blowback for doing this. But more people are noticing when she does cosplay with her brother in law baby photos.

  23. Lana234 says:

    I think both women are social climbers but Kate was a bit more obvious with it. The fact that it was she switched to St. Andrews at the last minute because William was going to attend. What annoys ppl about Kate is how she seemed to just want to be a wife and didn’t really have a purpose and waited around for William to be ready for marriage. Meghan had a career even though it was on a b list for tv show she likes to work. She had interests in humanitarian causes before Harry.

    • Elisa says:

      you are spot on.

    • Yami says:

      I don’t think Meghan was a social climber. I think she was ambitious and career minded. I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t go to Canada to social climb, but that’s just me. I mean, sure they have connected people, but If I wanted to bag a Prince of the UK, Canada would not be my first choice for all that they are part of the commonwealth. Those winters! The girl was there to work.

  24. bitchyarchitect says:

    i suspect Carole behind Kate’s weird cosplay. I can totally imagine Carole trolling the internet to fin old images of Diana etc and then telling Kate what to wear. But then I do have a vivid imagination.

  25. L says:

    She’s a mom nursing a five week old. You can’t be away from them that long especially at that age.

  26. Mel says:

    I don’t believe that any busy, normal person sits around scheming about baby clothes.

  27. Mignionette says:

    Re Harry’s outfits I think three things are going on here. Harry has been very vocal about his feelings about the way his mother used to dress him. So I am guessing he passed up the treasure trove of baby clothes and Kate now likely has the bounty.

    I am also guessing that because of her more modern taste and Harry’s indifference, Meghan has also passed on Harry’s old threads. I do forsee her keeping a few bits and pieces for Baby Archie and any future Baby Sussexes.

    Finally I think Kate was happy to have the bounty of clothes worn by William Harry. I do however think that some of the comments above are ‘over-thinking’. Kate is cunning but even this is a stretch for her. Rather I suspect that an assistant puts together and catalogs her outfits and the children’s outfits (notice Kate wore a red dress on the Lindo wing steps for Louis birth a la Diana). I also think said assistant maybe wanted to do a nod to Louis as the second born son wearing his uncles clothes. The plan however went awry when Kate is also seen wearing yellow.

    The over-all effect is somewhat creepy, but I think not well thought out as opposed to showing mal-intent.

    I think Kate’s assistant needs to be more careful, The RF often communicate via their clothes and the whole effect of Kate dresses near identical to Anne and with Louis cos-playing Harry was a little creepy. It feels like already Louis is being shoe horned into a role ….