The Duke & Duchess of Sussex flew to the South of France for another holiday

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex board a flight to New Zealand

The British tabloids are in a feeding frenzy over… the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s summer holidays. The British tabloids are NOT in a feeding frenzy over the fact that Prince Andrew’s pedophile friend died under mysterious circumstances and a day after that death, Andrew and the Queen were both wearing sh-t-eating grins on their way to church. The British tabloids are also NOT in a feeding frenzy about the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s luxurious two-week vacation in Mustique, which included a stay in a very fancy and expensive rental. It’s clear then what the priorities are: screaming incessantly about Meghan and Harry being “hypocrites” for… literally going on a few trips in Europe. First up, Meghan and Harry stayed in a “billionaire’s playground” in Ibiza:

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry stayed in a billionaire’s playground on their jet-set Ibiza break, where mega villas cost up to £120,000 a week, locals revealed. The royal eco-warriors, who took their third private jet in just eight days when they flew into the south of France on Wednesday, stayed at the gorgeous Vista Alegre gated complex of sea-facing mansions earlier this month to celebrate Meghan’s 38th birthday.

The most expensive villas overlooking the azure waters of Ibiza’s Porroig Bay are listed at £20,000 per week, but the price of others on enquiry rises to up to £120,000 per week. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, with baby Archie, jetted into the island on August 6 before being chauffeured to the fabulous resort, The Sun reported.

Locals told the paper that the already stringent security was dialled up, one said: ‘The area has been built to a high specification and is a billionaires’ playground so the security staff know what they are doing.’ A source on the island told MailOnline last week the Royals landed in Ibiza with several taxpayer-funded Met Police bodyguards for the ‘six-day trip’. They added that five close protection officers from the Spanish security forces joined the group escorting them to their private villa.

[From The Daily Mail]

Also in Spain around the same time: Prince Andrew, who – did I mention this? – has literally been accused of raping an underage girl who was trafficked to him by Jeffrey Epstein. Basically, Meghan and Harry stayed where you would expect them to stay in Ibiza – some place fancy, with good security. Then they had the AUDACITY to also go on holiday to Nice.

Eco-warriors Harry and Meghan flew into a new hypocrisy row last night as it emerged that they used a private jet to go on holiday to the South of France – their third private jet flight in just eight days. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex arrived in Nice on Wednesday aboard a 12-seater Cessna aircraft.

Dressed in a white blouse and cream sun hat, Meghan, 38, was spotted cradling the couple’s three-month-old son Archie as she left the plane which is registered to the luxury firm NetJets. Harry, wearing a green polo shirt, blue cap and sunglasses, was also seen leaving the Cessna Citation Sovereign, which experts said would have cost more than £20,000 to hire.

The Royal couple’s trip to the French Riviera is estimated to have created seven times more carbon emissions per person than a commercial flight. There are more than 20 scheduled flights from London airports to Nice each Wednesday. The gas-guzzling flight came just two days after the couple returned by private jet to the UK from Ibiza after a six-night break to mark Meghan’s 38th birthday.

[From The Daily Mail]

NetJets actually has a carbon-offset program and has had that program for years – NetJets added $5500 to their yearly contracts to properly finance their carbon-offset program. But go off. If it wasn’t “BUT THE ENVIRONMENT,” then it would be “BUT THE COST” and if wasn’t that, it would be “BUT SHE’S TOO FANCY” or “SHE’S TOO HOLLYWOOD.” The Cambridges literally borrow the Duke of Westminster’s private jet several times a year, and Prince Andrew flew to Spain on a private jet after Epstein’s shady death, but sure… Meghan and Harry are the ones getting all these blaring headlines.

And once again, I’d just like to point out that the British papers go overboard to the point where I really do feel like I have to defend Meghan and Harry. If the British papers had just reported this straight, with all of the editorializing and smearing, we could have had a real gossip-conversation about why the hell the Sussexes needed a second f–king luxury vacation in a two-week time period. But because the Daily Mail and The Sun don’t trust their readers to think for themselves, this is what we get.

Duke and Duchess os Sussex arrive in New Zealand!

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  1. aquarius64 says:

    And? Andy’s mess is more important.

    • runcmc says:

      It SHOULD be. Somehow, THIS story has 8k comments on daily mail (yes, EIGHT THOUSAND). The latest Andrew story? Couldn’t tell ya. I scrolled for a while and couldn’t find one.

      • B says:

        It’s the Daily Mail, what you expect.

        It’s run by a bunch of public school boys who can’t talk to girls.

      • Becks1 says:

        I mean even on here, this post has twice as many comments and a lot more vitriol than the post about Andrew.

      • Nahema says:

        I get the feeling that Andrew has long been written off as a terrible, sleazy person. There is nobody arguing that he is not except for other terrible & sleazy people. People also seem deflated by the fact that he is probably going to get away with all of it. He pretends that he was never a part of any of the grossness but nobody believes him.

        Meghan and Harry on the other hand still have most of their shine in tact and are saying they’re one thing while doing something else entirely.

        Talking about Andrew makes my skin crawl. Meghan & Harry just make me angry.

      • bamaborn says:

        I scrolled through the Daily Fail article on Andrew, had 38 comments at that time. Duchess Meghan and Prince Harry, keep living your best life. 😘😘

      • noway says:

        I just went on Daily Mail UK now, and there are six different articles about Andrew & Epstein ranging in comments form 2-4K maybe they just get up later in the day, but Andrew’s story isn’t going away even on the Daily Mail. Thank God.

        This H&M story seems so small in comparison, and now we have Elton John paying for it, and the carbon neutral donation. Which is nice, but sorry it’s a bit hypocritical when you go out and say I’ll have only two children cause we use too much resources, you put environmental issues as your issue, and then you still do this within a few weeks. Seems a bit out of touch. Granted Elton John is offsetting it, but wouldn’t it be better to just fly first class and donate too. Sorry it’s very Leo DiCaprio of them, and he gets crap for it too. Honestly, if you are rich and famous, and going to ever get on a private jet you just shouldn’t make the environment a big issue for you. It’s very hypocritical and people just don’t get it. If you want it as an issue fly commercial. It’s so easily corrected.

        Still compared to propping up a pedophile it’s minor. I mean even if Andrew did not do anything to any of these women, there is plenty of video evidence he still propped up his pedophile friend after he had been convicted. That by itself is still very bad.

      • Kate says:

        @noway hard disagree. I would still MUCH rather they care and do their best in whatever way they can, even if their best is imperfect.

      • Margsy says:

        Everyone here has shredded the Cambridges for less.

    • Hermione says:

      This post about H&M and their alleged hypocrisy and crimes against the environment will generate more comments, angst and vitriol than any of the posts about pedo Andy. That tells you what you need to know about so many posters.

      • Becks1 says:

        I’ve noticed some of the more vocal posters here have not made a single comment on the Andrew post. I get that people may not want to comment excessively on that post since its so depressing, but not one comment? That tells me a lot.

      • IlsaLund says:

        It’s like some posters wait with baited breath for an opportunity to pounce and vent about the Sussexes. The Sussexes aren’t perfect, they’re human and they fail/slip like the rest of us. But the venom in some comments directed at them is unreal.

      • Enn says:

        Becks, I think that’s how I feel…I’m just sick and numb because nothing will happen to Andrew, just like nothing will happen to Trump. Powerful white men who are being protected by institutions (BRF and a spineless Senate, respectively) and are going to come through this clean as a whistle.

        I kind of feel like I’ve been under relentless psychological attack for 3 years at this point and every day is worse. So I don’t know what to say about this situation. The helplessness overtakes me.

      • Nahema says:

        @Becks1 I think a large number of comments on the Harry & Meghan articles are from fans who want to point out every last detail about how unfairly they’re being treated and people arguing with each other.

        Andrew only has other paedophiles for fans and therefore Celebitchy is not the kind of site they’re likely to frequent. Nobody else has anything to say because there is nothing to argue here. He’s gross.

      • noway says:

        Even on here the comments are more for the Sussexes, and most of the comments on here are positive toward them. I think honestly, the only thing this shows is the Sussexes are more popular than Andrew. People who dislike them still talk a lot about them.

        Also, people are very quick to convict with the worst possible crime on here too. May be true, but my problem with that thinking is it works both ways, and people then may be quick to convict others who may not be guilty. Conviction by mass media isn’t a good thing. Still, even if Andrew is never found criminally or civilly guilty of anything, he hung around this guy a lot after he went to jail for a bad crime. Doesn’t that mean he has to go away from public view, or are we all still in Trumplandia where certain things are just locker talk. At the very least, I want Andrew gone banished. Wish we had an ice wall like Game of Thrones.

      • Becks1 says:

        @noway this morning the posts were more evenly split, or more veered towards criticizing them (a lot of “I like them but this is….” insert inexcusable indefensible hypocritical whatever..) I think its probably due to time zones? I’ve noticed before a Sussex post starts off with lots of criticism (and Kate posts start out with lots of praise….) and then it shifts again. But the comments definitely did not start out as pro Sussex as one might think now, reading through the whole of them.

        That said, i’m with you with the banishment/ice wall.

      • perplexed says:

        I think there’s universal agreement that what Andrew has done is bad. I assume that results in people not feeling the need to pop in and agree over and over with the same thing, thus less comments. In other posts on other royals, more disagreement results in more commenting. I also think the Andrew story is more depressing and maybe people feel less inclined to click on the post and ruin their day. I know I find the story depressing…

    • Bella DuPont says:

      Quite frankly, until Andrew (trump, Clinton et al) are in handcuffs, answering some hard questions, regarding raping children, I don’t give two sh-ts if Meghan + Harry take a small fleet of private jets and circle them round the world twice.

      • bamaborn says:

        On point, Bella!! They work their tails off for that slime of a family and richly deserve some down time.

      • Le4Frimaire says:

        Totally agree. Even when they fly commercial they get criticized for going 1st/ business class or taking too many seats. We just see the flash optics but this couple and Meghan specifically gets a horrendous amount of threats and part of the way they travel, and the privacy, is due to security. When public figures like Farage and Trump are attacking you for existing, I’ll excuse some extra security. The public doesn’t know this or thinks she deserves this.

      • Maria says:

        Elton John has stated on his IG that he provided the private jet for Harry and Meghan and paid for it, and paid contributions toward Carbon Footprint.

      • Olenna says:

        Ditto, Bella! There are 170 comments on the Andrew/Epstein threads versus 330 on the Sussex’s 2-hour private jet flight, *and* hardly any of the most strident Sussex critics have a thing to say about the pedophile and his royal associates or any of the other BRF’s use of private air transportation (including helicopters), ever. I’m starting think some people just get off or find psychological relief from dragging the Sussexes about everything they do.

    • Grape says:

      I can’t excuse this. Why would they fly back to the U.K. only to fly to France a day or two later? It’s not as if they were dropping Archie off, so childcare isn’t a valid concern. He was photographed in France with Meghan and Harry. Maybe they were counting on being able to fly privately under the radar, as royals have done in the past, but times are changing. People will find out and they will be mad (rightfully so IMO) if actions don’t correspond to public messaging.

      • entine says:

        plenty of commuters do the same. Why the ….. thy don’t stay and live wherever their work is? why doe they have to travel every d::::: weekend? How dare they go elsewhere on vacation not using a bike?

    • Grape says:

      Agree. No excuse for this. It really has nothing to do with pedo andy. Who I think is in for it, and in fact, this weekend began a downward media frenzy on him that he won’t pull out of it. Long time coming

      • Becks1 says:

        Wait, what’s going on here? Grape responding to Grape, agreeing with first Grape, using the same comment word for word as Darla two comments below? And first grape is word for word ARC’s comment? Huh. Seems legit.

      • Olenna says:

        “Grape” and “Marla”– busted. LMAO, “Trix” are for kids.

  2. A random commenter says:

    I can’t excuse this. Why would they fly back to the U.K. only to fly to France a day or two later? It’s not as if they were dropping Archie off, so childcare isn’t a valid concern. He was photographed in France with Meghan and Harry. Maybe they were counting on being able to fly privately under the radar, as royals have done in the past, but times are changing. People will find out and they will be mad (rightfully so IMO) if actions don’t correspond to public messaging.

    • Darla says:

      Agree. No excuse for this. It really has nothing to do with pedo andy. Who I think is in for it, and in fact, this weekend began a downward media frenzy on him that he won’t pull out of it. Long time coming and I love it! But, no excuse for this.

    • Pix says:

      So much faux outrage over private jets. Why not call them hypocrites and move on? I wish folk would open their eyes to the bait and switch. I mean Andrew was photographed inside of Epstein’s house. That article has somehow disappeared on the Daily Mail.

      • Eliza says:

        The Daily Mail online is click-based. Andrew has been a leading story there all weekend, but as soon as the clicks start slowing another article pops up and it’s buried lower. 8k responses will get the top spot, even if it was a dog doing ballet. And 8k people wanted to complain about the “optic” of royals on their 3rd vacation in 4 weeks [Sicily 4 Harry with private planes, helicopters and stayed on yacht, then family trip to Ibiza (private plane, expensive villa), then a weekend trip to stay at Elton Johns in France (again private plane)]… after spitting out talking points just the week before all this about saving the planet and being a game changer. Terrible optics/ timing. I mean you can’t say it’s a great look given their message.

        I get pissed anytime Trump goes to FL because we get to know exactly how much it costs us. It’s a ridiculous amount of money. Royals are not subject to the FOIA; that less than 1 pound per person number sold is all lies because it doesn’t include a lot of costs (including 24/7 security and any additional security needed for vacations plus their travel expenses).

      • Nic919 says:

        Miss me with the optics argument when Andy and the Queen were seen grinning in the car to the church the day after Epstein was found dead.

        Nothing Harry and Meghan are alleged to have done is any different than the Cambridges or the Wessexes and yet the DM goes after them like they committed a crime. This is where the hypocrisy lies.

        While some of the racists hate Meghan, nothing she has done will bring down the monarchy. Andrew being protected by the Queen however will be a serious issue and the average person is going to be far more angry about that. And he was seen peeking out of Epstein’s place in NY after the conviction. With a young blond girl heading inside the building. If we are going to talk bad optics, this is it.

      • bamaborn says:

        Pix…do not click on Daily Fail articles, but was too curious to know if an Andrew article was in the offering. Showed the one with him at Epstein’s NY mansion, peering out the door. Had 38 TOTAL comments at the time. All their sleazy commentors were even quiet.

      • Elisa says:

        there are currently 5 articles on Epstein and/or Andrew on the DM website, one with 1,500 comments. So this is way too big to be buried…

    • bonobochick says:

      Is there proof they ever went to Ibiza or is that the RRs running away with a story with no proof and all [unsubstantiated] rumors? 🤔

      It is always interesting to me to see how quickly people want to nitpick the Sussexes.

      • Nic919 says:

        Always the same handles that do this. I don’t see their same level of outrage for the Cambridge trips that last longer and cost more or for the actual pedophile getting away with his ex wife to hide from the press.

        The Ibiza story originally came from a Spanish newspaper with no details and the DM had originally reported that they were at Balmoral during that same time. And why do they have details about the jet to France but nothing from Ibiza?

    • Lee says:

      Why? Because they wanted to??? Maybe they needed to go back to the U.K. for important reasons that they choose not to share with the general public. Why are all of these environmentally conscious people not focusing on the large corporations that are doing the most to destroy the environment? They are on summer vacation/maternity leave and chose to go on some family vacations. I really don’t see why this is such a scandal?

      • IlsaLund says:

        It’s only a scandal cause it’s the Sussexes. Any other members of the royal family get a pass on the same behavior. Other members “don’t practice what they preach” (William) but that’s okay. It’s only the Sussexes that need to be dragged for their alleged “hypocrisy”.

      • Molly says:

        Also, if I’m Meghan, there’s no way in hell I’m taking my newborn on a commercial flight with the frothing masses out in full force right now. Nope.

      • Yvette says:

        Neither do I, @Lee, neither do I.

        And I still contend that there are simply some people in the world who can’t waltz on and off a commercial jet without consequences of some kind; either to their own privacy/safety or to the convenience of regular travelers. That’s the way of the world … especially in today’s world of increasingly more random and senseless violence.

        And in my humble opinion, unless the people outraged over ‘carbon footprints’ bike to work and the grocery store, recycle every bit of recyclable material, and pretty much live off the grind, then they are just as culpable. Everyone leaves a carbon footprint. The trick is to counter the necessary damage you do to the planet by helping it in other ways. Harry and Meghan certainly do their share.

    • minx says:

      Meghan and Harry are more lovable than other “royals” but they’re still part of a ridiculously unjust and privileged scam. Harry was lucky to be born of the right parents and Meghan was lucky to have married him. The entire BRF is lavishly rewarded for “work” which isn’t work, I can’t admire any of them.

      • Brunswickstoval says:

        100% agree Minx.

      • TeddyPicker says:

        +1

        As Kaiser says, if it wasn’t for this smear campaign we would be able to have normal conversations around legitimate issues like this.

      • Maria says:

        And they are all hypocritical. About time the Brits cut them loose.

      • Redgrl says:

        @minx – yep!

      • bonobochick says:

        in this case, this Nice vacation was a gift from Elton John that he posted about on his twitter and instagram this morning because of the OTT vitriol being directed at the Sussexes that hasn’t been directed at the other royal family members who do the same thing.

      • liriel says:

        This, I totally agree.

      • Nahema says:

        They really are. I think the monarchy might survive King Charles but I really doubt there little George will ever be King. Something tells me that it will all end with moody William.

      • Summergirl says:

        @Minx–I SO agree with you!! What Meghan and Harry do is not close to work by my standards. I’d actually be pleased to see the BRF done away with. It’s not remotely relevant in our times. And while I do think Meghan is beautiful, and I recognize the importance of having a woman of colour in the royal family, I really can’t go crazy like others on here for a woman whose status has been achieved through marriage to a famous man, not through her own accomplishments. Before Meghan married Harry, she was a C-list actress. Meghan has a great thirst to be famous and important–that’s fine, her prerogative. (Of course, by any metric of comparison, she is a million times “better” than Kate.) But there are just so many woman out there doing brilliant, impressive work. I just can’t work myself up into a froth of admiration for Meghan (and Harry).

      • E says:

        Well-said, Minx.

        If anyone truly believes in equality for all, then it’s long overdue that we finally get rid of this archaic family once and for all. People are rightfully disgusted with Andrew and with hypocritical Harry, and I think once Elizabeth is gone there will be serious discussions as to whether this family should continue to be bankrolled by the British taxpayer.

      • Betsy says:

        100% agree.

        Also, dont claim you give a shit about the environment and fly private 2 trips back to back. Offsetting it with money is just money, it doesnt take away the impact you had. It’s just pure hypocrisy.

    • Bella DuPont says:

      You seem to complain about *absolutely everything* they do, which cheapens your points somewhat.

      I suspect you would be just as outraged if they’d walked + swam between locations, rather than fly.

      Bottom line, it’s a little difficult to take your arguments seriously at this point.

      • A random commenter says:

        Actually, I had a lot of love for them following their engagement and wedding. I thought they knocked it out of the park on the Aus/Fiji/Tonga tour, and the little etiquette lover in me ADORED when Meghan brought homemade banana bread and tea. However, the last few months haven’t been a good look for them IMO, and the Camp Google mess really took away my ability to be charitable. I don’t pull punches when it comes to the Cambridges, The Queen, or Pedo Andy, so why should I for the Sussexes?

      • Maria says:

        Meghan didn’t even go to Camp Google this year (and we don’t know if she went, ever).
        What about the last few months haven’t been a good look for them, beyond two trips we’re not even sure one of which happened and a Camp Google event that we’re also not 100 percent sure (unless I am wrong) happened with Harry attending but definitely didn’t involve Meghan?

      • A random commenter says:

        Even if we are only talking about this year’s Camp Google, Harry (and by extension Meghan, since they’re a joint brand) never, ever should have been associated. The accommodation alone should have been a HUGE red flag. A private jet, a helicopter, and a stay on a mega yacht…to talk to celebs about saving the environment?! How could he/they not see the absurdity and hypocrisy? It’s something you’d find in a parody of the Royals, only here it’s real life.

        Then, instead of acknowledging or even pretending to grow from the minor controversy that caused, they’ve now taken four more private jets to hang out in Ibiza and at Sir Elton’s. I don’t think it’s unfair to say they are trying to have it all ways when it comes to the environment.

      • Maria says:

        I see you commenting on other posts all the time about how we shouldn’t hold women responsible for the antics of their husbands or the men in their family (to the point where even bringing Epstein up to Eugenie with her podcast was reprehensible to you because it was “making her responsible” even though nobody even mentioned her talking about her father). How is this different? We don’t even know if Harry went, and to claim it’s Meghan’s fault too if he did because they are a “joint brand” makes no sense. She’s a mother at home with her child.
        The controversy was all caused by angry RR’s. And since the RR’s have no info, we don’t know which trips actually even happened.
        Meghan has never proselytized about the environment.
        Nevertheless, if true, Ibiza and Nice are also a far cry from Mustique and the Maldives.

      • A random commenter says:

        I do not believe in blaming women for the failings of men, that is very true. However, Meghan was at google camp in 2017, took a private jet to her baby shower and back, then joined Harry for these 4 plane rides to Ibiza and Nice. If she were flying commercial and he flying private, I would definitely make the distinction but she behaves the same as Harry (and all the rest). And frankly, the last thing I need is another pair of grifters living the good life while pretending to care about the world and the people in it.

      • Maria says:

        We don’t know if Meghan went to Camp Google in 2017. The only “evidence” people are presenting for it is that she was in London in the following days. That doesn’t prove anything. We also have no evidence of them in Ibiza. You’re “cancelling” her over rumors.
        Sorry but with how rabid and freakish people are I don’t blame her for that private jet to her baby shower. She’s taken trips commercial before while being a royal.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        @ Random commenter

        As Maria is clearly showing, your “defense” only further damages your credibility because it doesn’t add up in any way. Maria’s clear breakdown of your comments, using actualfacts makes you look like a hater trying to hide their long standing dislike (of Meghan) behind the old “I used to like her until she sneezed” arguments.

      • A random commenter says:

        I’m not canceling either one of them, but I do think it is terrifically unwise to live a life so counter to one’s public message. It’s like the Cambridges when they talk about the environment and preserving resources. They take private planes all over, shoot and hunt, and had a third kid when benefits were cut for normal families. They’re all hypocrites, saying the rest of us should do one thing while out doing the other for themselves.

      • Maria says:

        I’m posting this a couple of times so it will be seen – Elton John made an Instagram post where he stated he and his partner provided the private jet for Harry and Meghan to Nice, and to ensure it was carbon neutral he donated the equal amount of its cost to Carbon Footprint.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        No word from @Random commenter on Elton John’s message?

        Shocking.

      • Nahema says:

        Trying to be the voice of reason here a little but preparing to get annihilated… I think there is an obvious grey area when it comes to when a woman has some level of accountability for their spouses actions. When said spouse is a sexual predator/racist/criminal and it seems that the wife is on a different page entirely and mostly unaware, she perhaps shouldn’t be held accountable. When the couple appears to be preaching from the same hymn book (which Meghan & Harry are), it makes it seem unlikely that he took such a trip without her knowledge or seeking her advice. Given that they make it seem to the public that they’re fully on the same page and Harry gives the impression that he would not do anything without Meghan’s approval, I think people will rightly see such a misstep as a joint venture.

        As for the Elton John thing, it makes it no less annoying. I think we guessed that one or both holidays must have been paid for by someone and the fact it’s Elton John makes zero difference. The fact that he even thinks it makes it better because it’s offset is also hugely annoying. As people are constantly pointing out, there is very rarely ever a good reason to use a private jet. If you have that kind of money to throw around, you can fly first class and still donate. I hate comments about them being allowed to ‘live their best life’ because they do their bit. I feel very strongly about climate change and I don’t think that ANYONE should be so excessively wasteful. I’m not just saying Meghan & Harry here. All stories of this nature make my blood boil.

      • Maria says:

        “Harry gives the impression that he would not do anything without Meghan’s approval”

        …what? He’s still his own person.

      • noway says:

        I’m sorry if you don’t see how the optics of the last several months are worrisome, a lot of private airplanes, various high end vacations which use a lot of resources, high end yachts at Google camp while telling everyone we need to watch our carbon footprint. Not sure why people are saying Harry wasn’t at Google camp, Sergey Brin said he was. That’s good enough for me. Obama was even there. The camp is a good thing. Meant to get intelligent people together to discuss different ideas on what to do for climate change. The bad part is a lot come in private planes and stay on expensive resource guzzling yachts. (Leo is the poster child for this) Seriously, they should all fly on the equivalent of Southwest for Europe, and proudly show their tickets. I mean every once in while I’ll run into a famous person on the NYC subway, or I have run into Brin at the airport before he is on commercial a lot. His parents live over here in the DC area. It always makes me smile these people are more like normal than you think.

        Is this a huge deal no, and not even close to Andy. They’d have to flaunt this for years to look like Dicaprio. I just wish they wouldn’t do it.

      • A random commenter says:

        I have a job, thanks. I don’t comment while working.

        It’s laughable that anybody thinks Elton’s statement makes it better. I mean, all well and good that it wasn’t paid for on public funds, but not grifting luxury trips from taxpayers is the least any of them can do. I would rather they NOT take all these private planes, period, instead of doing it and having a friend throw money at the problem. As someone else said, this is no different from buying an indulgence from the church back in the day.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        @ Nahema:

        You make some reasonable points and I’m very happy to accept them from you since you have a history (in my recollection anyway), of being measured and reasonable. I would only suggest you remember that not everyone has the luxury of anonymity which can significantly reduce logistical choices for certain members of society.

        @ Random poster

        You have a job, you say? Good for you. I sadly, am destitute and so have the entire day to respond to shrill, overly critical messages and commenters on Celebitchy.

        Look, I think people just have to accept that this is what they’re going to continue to do. If there weren’t so many completely deranged obsessives, criticizing, stalking and threatening them on a daily basis (and creating a generally heightened sense of insecurity around them), I suspect they would have been happy to continue traveling commercially (as they did consistently in the earlier parts of their relationship).

        As it is now, there are other far more pressing issues around the Royal family, eg a suspected paedophile, who’s being shrouded and protected by the establishment. Why not direct the vitriol in that direction for the time being?

    • kerwood says:

      @A random commenter Luckily, you don’t have to excuse it. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren’t asking your permission to live their lives. It seems a lot of people have forgotten that.

    • MsIam says:

      H&M don’t need to be “excused”. All of the BRF go on holidays using private planes, including that POS Andy. If the Queen was up to it she would be going as well most likely by private jet. It goes with the territory.

    • Rhys says:

      Can any of us honestly say that if we got married to a rich hot prince, we WOULD NOT use all the benefits that come with the association?

      She is just another middle class woman who married well and shoot up to the top of the social ladder ( if she were born privileged, same story – they all love their lifestyle) and is going to enjoy the perks.

  3. Gigs says:

    I agree with what you are saying re the Cambridges and Andrew however I think it’s incredibly tone deaf to preach about saving the environment then take 3 private jets in 8 days, regardless of who you are…

    • Darla says:

      Really mind-boggling in fact.

    • Acires says:

      I ageee, I am all for starting to call out everyone.

    • Mellie says:

      Yes, a little disgusting. ALL of these people are completely ridiculous and believe they are untouchable from grotesque Andrew to the ostentatious younger set. There are no excuses for any of this.

    • AG-UK says:

      I agree, NOW if either didn’t go on about saving the environment then probably talked about but maybe to a lesser degree.

    • Maria says:

      When did Meghan preach about the environment to people?

    • kerwood says:

      WHAT ‘preaching’ about the environment? I must have missed all this PREACHING that they’ve been doing. Being environmentally conscious and being a total eco-warrior are two very DIFFERENT things. I don’t recall either the Duke or Duchess of Sussex driving electric cars, composting in their backyard or riding bicycles. Calling attention to REAL eco-warriors is as far as they go.

      And I definitely don’t recall either one telling a whole continent how many children they should have.

    • Jadedone says:

      In July the Sussex’s choose the environment as the social issue of the month according to their official instagram

      • Maria says:

        That doesn’t mean they are using the platform to lecture people about their habits. Where have they done this?

      • Jadedone says:

        I can’t post the link to their Instagram but they posted it on June 30th I believe

      • Maria says:

        That doesn’t mean they are lecturing people. And Elton John provided the private jet for them.

      • Jadedone says:

        Okay well that’s your opinion. I don’t like the hypocrisy of telling people “every choice, every footprint, every action makes a difference” and then flying on a private jet to camp Google and then on vacation. I don’t care if Elton John provided the jet or made some donation to offset the carbon footprint bc really how is donating money going to rectify the carbon footprint???

      • Maria says:

        We don’t have any proof of either of them going to Camp Google. We especially don’t have proof of Meghan ever doing so.
        Ok, I guess they should have just given Elton John the middle finger and flown commercial (eyeroll)

      • jenny says:

        The People article also shaded Harry and Meghan by quoting them as saying ““every choice, every footprint, every action makes a difference.”

        I just checked with the earth, and she told me regardless of who financed the jet, damage is damage.

      • Maria says:

        You know what damages the earth more? Procreation. Nothing Meghan and Harry do is on the level of having more children that will create another set of carbon footprint all on its own- but nobody will ever remark on Prince Louis and how he himself appeared after William preached to others to cut down on reproducing.

        Saying “every choice, every footprint, every action” makes a difference is not the same as them telling you what to do then doing something different. It certainly doesn’t mean they should have to give up a nice gesture from a friend, done once in a while.

      • Jadedone says:

        Okay Maria, you are clearly a Harry/Meghan apologist so there is no amount of logic and facts that will change your mind. Nobody here claimed the Cambridges were any better (bc the whole Royal Family is sh*t), they are all hypocrites who don’t get to lecture me while flying on private plans every other week.

      • Maria says:

        Logic does change my mind, but you’re not using that. The Sussexes were offered a trip on a private jet paid for and provided by a friend and all of a sudden that means they’re out to destroy everyone? The hysteria on this post is ridiculous.
        If you really hate them, stop commenting here and go volunteer for Republic UK instead. No worries if you hate the monarchy (not a huge fan myself) but the dogpiling on Meghan in particular is abominable.

      • Jadedone says:

        Who said they were out to destroy everyone? You are taking this very personally. This post started off as someone stating that Meg and Harry don’t practice what they preach. Others wanted evidence that they have in fact preached about the environment, I provided evidence by referencing a specific post on their official Instagram. You keep arguing with me that “that doesn’t mean they are lecturing” or that “Elton John provided the jet” which doesnt change the fact that they are not practising what they preach. I don’t particularly hate them but I hate when rich privillege people want to tell other people how to live their lives while doing the opposite, like when Will made that stupid comment about children while being the parent of three children. Yes Meg has been attacked in the media for a lot of stupid stuff but this criticism of the Sussex brand is valid. You can’t preach about the environment from an ivory tower when our carbon footprint dwarfs that of regular people.

      • Maria says:

        You are the one that started flinging insults about how because I’m such an apologist that facts or logic won’t change my mind, so it seems like you are the one taking it personally.
        What they preach is, to be conscious of your life. They have flown commercial before, I’m sure they will again.
        Harry and Meghan haven’t criticized anyone for using private jets then turned around and used one. Archie hasn’t been seen in public yet, and they wanted to keep that private given the amount of (frankly frightening) vitriol surrounding them. On her maternity leave, the gift of a short trip on a private jet not funded by taxpayers is not what I would consider being in an ivory tower. And even if it is, the reaction to this is absolutely out of proportion, and no, I don’t buy the whole “WE FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THE CAMBRIDGES TOO” since the posts about the Cambridges travelling on vacation never get this many angry comments, ever.

      • Jadedone says:

        This website posts mostly positive stories about Meg and Harry so I’m not sure what website you are reading bc most Meg and Harry articles are filled with people praising them. This was a misstep for them, we are entitled to call them out for that. This website wrote an article about the Cambridges going to mustique and most of the comments were critical. CB is not the daily mail, the commenters are 100% different. You had no problems calling out Wills hypocrisy but don’t think Meg and Harry should be held to the same standard? Meg and Harry are living very privileged lives and for the most part they are using their privillege for good BUT in this instance they made themselves look bad. As Jenny so eloquently put it above “regardless of who financied the jet the damage is done”

      • Maria says:

        The William and Kate posts never have the same amount of vehement angry comments, ever. And just because CB is well disposed toward Meghan doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of commenters who say “I love her, but (enter 9,000 reasons why she is the spawn of Satan)”.
        Please link me to the last William and Kate travel post that had nearly 300 angry comments in it. Here, on this site.
        I commented about William’s hypocrisy in the concepts of carbon footprint. No, I do not believe the Sussexes should be held in the same negative regard because a two hour jet ride is not the same as having a third child. That is what I commented, I stand by that.
        The amount of dissection people put the Sussexes under is ridiculous. They had one line in an Instagram post and all of a sudden that means they are the biggest hypocrites in the world, apparently.
        Why did they make themselves look bad when it wasn’t even their jet? Blame Elton John if you have to.

      • Darla says:

        There aren’t 300 angry comments on the Kate and william threads because Kate and william don’t have stans angrily defending every single thing they do, that’s why. When you start fighting with people, that’s going to generate more posts.

      • Becks1 says:

        Lol of course they do. They just don’t hang out on CB. check out twitter or IG (comments on the official KP accounts, you don’t have to venture too far) to see what Kate stans have to say. Theres a reason many of us come into here on the defensive. And it’s not bc we are making up the ant Meghan hysteria.

    • Bonnyday says:

      It’s disappointing that H and M don’t practice what they preach with regard to the environment and climate change. But how many people are actually surprised by their hypocrisy and virtue-signalling? Even if you love them and their messages, it’s naive to believe they’re “walking the talk” to any great extent. Very few wealthy, entitled people are willing to curtail their pampered lifestyles or put their own money where their mouths are.

      • bonobochick says:

        LOL at “virtue-signalling”

        That is such a tell

      • Kitten says:

        Yeah unfortunately, this is the sad truth. Realistically, I understand that private jets provide a level of comfort, expedience and security that commercial flights do not. I mean they’re *royalty* and as such, I really wouldn’t expect any less from them. They’re hardly the first rich family to not practice what they preach.

        I like Harry and Meghan fine (for royals) but this is the problem with the bizarre hero-worship that people seem to bestow upon them. Sure, they’re engaged in philanthropy and do give back but at the end of the day, they’re still just rick folks acting like rich folks. *shrug*

      • noway says:

        @Kitten that was well said. I would like to commend both Harry and William when they fly commercial which they have before. I think it does help if they do that.

      • Darla says:

        Well said Kitten.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “And Elton John provided the private jet for them.”

      A gas-guzzling private jet is a gas-guzzling private jets no matter who pays for it and who owns it. Going to France & Spain is going to France & Spain no matter what it costs and no matter who pays for it.

      Like the NYC baby shower this is just plain “bad optics”.

  4. Nobody says:

    Why do the tabloid said they went for a holiday in france.
    Maybe MH had a work plan there.
    The tabloids had constantly reporting false news.

    • A random commenter says:

      Except Buckingham Palace was quoted as saying it was a private trip, at least according to what I read.

      • Nobody says:

        A trip?
        Maybe they went to work with someone for a secret meeting.
        Then boom a new charity work or something like the clothing line.
        They were known for planning, and working in secret and then showing the results.

      • A random commenter says:

        Now reported they were staying at Sir Elton’s place and took another private jet back, so I doubt it was work-related.

      • Enny says:

        Yes, with Elton – doesn’t sound work-related. Which would have been one thing, I think, if they combined the trips, flew UK-Ibiza-France-UK – the way they did it seems strange and unnecessarily wasteful. But still, no children were sexually abused, both trips together were still a fraction of the cost and carbon emissions of the Cambridge jaunt to Mustique.

      • blue36 says:

        And you believe these reports? These same outlets said they were in Balmoral when they weren’t.

      • Megan says:

        @blue36 The RR’s have shown they have no idea where H+M are. Who knows if either of these trips took place.

      • Maria says:

        Please read Elton John’s IG post. He stated he was the one who provided Harry and Meghan with the private jet.

      • Becks1 says:

        His post is actually kind of sad. You can tell he thought he was doing a good thing by inviting them and making it easy for them to get there and instead they are being ripped to pieces for it.

        ETA also how he said he invited them so they could have a nice vacation without being hounded by people. Considering that Harry and Meghan get a massage and there are headlines about that, or Meghan eats avocado toast and is accused of causing drought and famine…..it seems like a really nice thing for him to do IMO.

  5. Kendra says:

    I mean Andrew is more important but it doesn’t mean we can’t discuss and criticize this.

    • Pix says:

      Of course you can discuss and criticize. But Andrew has been accused of having sex with children. Children. The level of outrage is nowhere near the venom that these jets trips are getting. Hypocrites vs Pedophile? Only one belongs in jail. Perspective.

      • A random commenter says:

        Andrew belongs in jail and stripped of titles, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t also criticize ridiculous displays of wealth and waste.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        @ random poster

        Yes….. Just because there’s a palace endorsed child f-cker, parading around proudly with the queen, that shouldn’t stop us pearl-clutching and salts-smelling over the Sussexes travel arrangements now, should it? They’re clearly crimes of equal magnitude.

        Clearly. (heavy eye roll)

    • jenny says:

      yes, this. we are intelligent enough to differentiate.

    • bonobochick says:

      It really is telling the energy folks have for the Sussexed using private jets and not the Cambridges or Wessexes. Some say they are outraged over all the Royal Family taking private planes but the energy seems so much angrier when it is about the Sussexes.

      • AB says:

        There is a double standard. But I think people expect much more from the Sussexes, because they seem genuine and as though they truly care about their causes. Their recent moves are very “let them eat cake” and I must admit, it’s a let down.

      • IlsaLund says:

        Yes…you can feel the anger in their comments. It’s like some can’t wait for an opportunity to vent and rant against the Sussexes.

        Also, no one should put the Sussexes (or anyone else) up on a pedestal and hold them to much higher standards. They are human beings with faults and imperfections. I like them and applaud their at least trying to make a difference. But I’m not going to have a meltdown when they slip at times.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        @ ilsalund

        Perfectly said!

      • betsyh says:

        With the amount of hatred directed at them, they should fly private, to protect themselves and their child from nutjobs.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “Also, no one should put the Sussexes (or anyone else) up on a pedestal and hold them to much higher standards.”

        Is not “higher standards” and setting an EXCELLENT example the WHOLE point of being Royal?

        ETA: Not talking about a constitutional monarch but a Royal Family subsidized by the government.

    • noway says:

      This is kind of dangerous. At the present time, Andrew is not accused of having sex with children. The only girl who accused him of having sex with her was Virginia Guiffre and she stated starting at 17-18 she was forced to have sex with Andrew by Epstein in London, NYC and his Caribbean island. First I guess 17 – 18 is a child to some, but not in the eyes of the law in regards to sex, plus the interesting thing is she states Epstein forced her not Andrew. Still makes Andrew disgusting, and more so that he still stuck with this guy after he was convicted, but not quite what people are screaming on here. The story as presented through court case documents is bad enough without adding things we don’t have proof of yet.

      • Becks1 says:

        Omg, so the new defense for Andrew is she was 17 and that’s an adult and Andrew didn’t force her Epstein did? That makes me want to throw up.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        noway is NOT defending Andrew. noway is simply laying out a legal case based on the facts as currently presented (which for better or worse may or may not be the whole story). Andrew is 100% disgusting for an average “Joe” let alone a British Royal but if the “law” cannot do anything then only QEII can personally do something.

    • Mego says:

      Bella Du Pont, you are on a commenting roll today. Keep it up sister!

  6. Zapp Brannigan says:

    BUT HER AIR MILES! really is the new “but her emails”

    Also noticed over the weekend that the DM had Meghan’s name first in all the headlines as if Harry is some poor innocent in this, not used to living high on the publicly funded hog.

  7. Becks1 says:

    Are they meeting friends on these vacations or something? I ask because to me it seems kind of odd to go to Ibiza for 5 days, come home for a few days, and then go back to the south of france (like why not just stay in Ibiza for a week, or stay for a longer period of time in France?) so I wonder if they are meeting friends or something.

    Anyway – miss me with the nonsense about how much the villa cost. When the tabloids print stuff like that, they really are just giving away their whole game, considering the kinds of vacations the other royals take. And same with the comments about the RPOs and the like.

    As for the private jet – I don’t think its the best look, but at least they are using NetJets? I wonder if the jets are being paid for by someone else. Like if they at flying to the South of France to see friends and those friends pay for the jets?

    • A random commenter says:

      I don’t care who paid, it’s not defensible. How many private jets are they really taking if the press could dig up 3 in 8 days? It’s more “do as I say, not as I do,” and at this point I think I’d rather Harry just use the plastic straw and shirt wrap and skip the jets altogether.

      • Becks1 says:

        I don’t think its really defensible either; my question about who is paying is more bc I didn’t think Harry was the type to spring for all these private jets. We know he and Meghan have flown commercial before, so why all these private jets now?

      • Lady D says:

        Maybe it has something to do with security?

  8. OriginalLala says:

    Between the Cambridges, the Sussexes, Prince Andrew and the rest of them (taking money for access that was in the news last week) with their insanely entitled, hypocritical, largely tone-deaf lifestyles, I’m ready for House Windsor to fall.

  9. Aurora says:

    Is there any evidence they were ever in Ibiza? I ask because there was a Daily Mail reporter on twitter asking if anyone had info about the Sussexes alleged stay in Ibiza.

    • Jane says:

      Thank you. It’s never even been confirmed that they were in Ibiza but even if they were, last time I looked, they have the right to go absolutely anywhere they want.
      This is a smear campaign based on racism and lack of access to The Sussexes and more and more people are waking up to this fact.

      • Enny says:

        Articles about it have recycled old ig photos of pre-Sussex Meghan, so that is suspect. They were definitely in Nice, though, actual photos of them there.

        Unless someone has receipts on the jet part – but seems we only know they took NetJets to Nice, do we have any actual confirmation of the jet for the alleged Ibiza jaunt? 🤔 Curiouser and curiouser.

      • Loretta says:

        @Enny
        No, there aren’t pics from Ibiza, only an old pic of Meghan with her friends when they went to Ibiza years ago.

    • bonobochick says:

      Thank you, Aurora. I asked the same question upthread too. Do we know if any of this is true? That, of course, won’t stop the pearl clutching by those who want to hate on the Sussexes but badly try to cover that explicit focus with All Lives Mattering the BRF

      • upstate diva says:

        There was no confirmation of Sussexes in Ibiza, and I am sure we would have gotten some follow up other than private jet-gate. Remember all the resorts that claimed that DDOS were coming for honeymoon (free advertising)? We still, to this day, do not know where they went. All the prices in the Ibiza articles are based on nothing. The Sun (aka) Emily Andrews is a repeat compulsive liar, so whatever gets you riled up.

    • himmiefan says:

      Why do we need evidence that they were in Ibiza?

      • bonobochick says:

        Because people are accusing them of flying all over using private jets thus somehow being hypocritical about something they don’t preach and if they didn’t go, then it would be a lie about their actions. It would be people being mad or hysterical about something that didn’t actually happen

  10. teehee says:

    I guess they shoulda walked.

    Pff.

    Heres the thing – where does the balance lie, for single people to “do their part” versus for industries and mass corporations to do theirs? I dont buy into too much “doing my part”, cos I know that change comes from the top down. I can boycott x all I want but it still goes on being mass produced and consumed by the millions/billions, or countie/nations dont offer proper recycling etc. So who gives a sh!t, really if I do or dont consume a handful.

    I prefer that they campaign and speak out for pushing for TOP DOWN change, and they contribute a lot as spokespeople for charities, which by 1) way of their effort and time and 2) by luck of their fame/positions will be more change than I ever achieve in my whole life time.

    So Im not judgin if they need a vacation.
    Especially with all the mud slinging they gotta deal with now basically for the rest of their lives and childrens lives, DESPITE the good they try to do.

    • Tweetime says:

      It’s a combination, though. Yes, corporations and industry HAVE to stop and take responsibility for what they’re doing to the world, but they’re not going to do it for kicks.
      Individuals need to stop consuming so much and to boycott certain products, which then puts pressure on industry to shift their model.
      It’s trash that corporations won’t just be good global citizens, but they won’t.

    • Sophie says:

      To me it is not about rich people living their privilege to the detriment of the planet. I find it disgusting but most rich people do it. So I just don’t have the Energy to get too annoyed about individual cases. What I do find super annoying though is those celebrities preaching about „saving the planet“ and climate change to their followers (which Harry and Meghan did just a few weeks ago on their insta), but then use private jets for locations where it is easy to find commercial flights. Meghan’s baby shower in New York is another example for this. There are so many flights with first class every day between London and New York. Anyway this is not a problem only for the Sussexes, but to me they are on a level with DiCaprio now. Cannot take them seriously at all when they preach on Instagram or in speeches about saving the planet.

      • Taneesha says:

        So what do you prefer Sophie, that nobody mentions anything environment related because oh they’ll take a private jet to some place at some point? I think people are investigating way too much energy on the Sussexes’ occasional carbon print contribution really. There’s more to environmental destruction than just carbon print. This earth and the environment is worth fighting for even though some people in more visible positions take a private jet occasionally. I mean, how many people here own 3 cars, go on cruises every six months, own multiple real estates but have the nerve to criticize others for flying a private? Everyone is a hypocrite I suppose.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        @ taneesha

        Very well said.

      • Erinn says:

        “I mean, how many people here own 3 cars, go on cruises every six months, own multiple real estates but have the nerve to criticize others for flying a private?”

        I’d suppose there might be some, but I’m going to doubt most people on here are doing that. Husband has a company vehicle for work purposes only, and then we have a small SUV. I haven’t been on a plane in about 13 years. We don’t travel more than a couple of hours (3ish) away once or twice a year. We bought a house in our early 20s because we didn’t want to pump money into a rental, and really had to scrimp and save for the first 3 years because we could barely afford it all with student debt and vet bills. I load our property with flowers and try to make it super bee and butterfly friendly. We built a bat box. We donate to wildlife rehabs whenever possible. We recycle, avoid plastic bags as much as possible, and try our best to support local vs billion dollar corporations.

        I’m sure there are some hypocrites out there complaining about that, but I think the average poster on this site are pretty reasonable. I don’t think it’s crazy to think that they could have flown commercial when they’re making the environment a focus of their brand. It IS a bit tone deaf.

        It doesn’t deserve some kind of pitch fork and torch treatment, but I don’t think it’s wrong to point out that it’s tone-deaf.

      • Your Cousin Vinny says:

        @taneesha, I think you (and others who have made similar comments) are kind of making the same point as the criticism. I agree, it would be hypocritical of someone with multiple SUVs and daily hour-long showers to comment on anyone else’s carbon footprint or talk about saving the earth. And unfortunately therein lies the rub … Harry in particular has publicly made comments encouraging everyone to think about their own impact on the planet and take action to reduce their personal footprint.

        I suspect they are going on these flights because they have been comped or subsidised by friends and while I can appreciate everyone loves a freebie or a discount, this one smacks of hypocrisy purely because they have voluntarily engaged the public in conversations about environmental protection.

        Offsetting carbon is a fantastic gesture that should be encouraged … but let’s not forget limiting the damage in the first place would be the preferred approach.

      • Sophie says:

        Hi Taneesha, yes I think that is exactly what I am suggesting. If you want to fly into your vacations or to baby showers by private jet or own three cars, please do so, but then just choose something else for your advocacy. There are other worthy causes. This now came up with the Sussexes, but I feel the same about Clooney, DiCaprio, Prince Charles, William. Not sure you meant me with the 3 cars comment, but I feel strongly about climate change so I really do try, I use public transport and a bike to get around, I don’t own a car and for my private trips I try to avoid flights. Could of course also do more.

  11. TheOriginalMia says:

    Until I see pictures or some real evidence of their trip to Ibiza, I’m going to assume that one is false and they only went to Nice. It doesn’t make sense for 2 trips in 2 weeks to sun on the beach. But yeah, for using NetJet.

    • Chunkyla says:

      .

    • Chunkyla says:

      Did we ever get confirmation and pictures regarding the Cambs alleged ski trip this Easter? No. And did that stop the dragging they received on here about private jet use, cost, them allegedly taking their kids on an Easter break like most parents do etc.. no. I rest my case.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        What case are you making? I said I needed pictures or it didn’t happen and I stand by that. I didn’t bring the Cambridges into my comment, so I’m not sure why you decided to do a whatboutism with me.

        I’ll say this about the Cambridges since you brought them up. Their kids were just out of school and they disappeared for the duration of break. I don’t know if they went skiing or not. I know Will & Kate weren’t working during that time. I do know they were gone again for another 2 week break to Mustique. Since they’ve been back, they’ve had 1 event. That’s what I do know. Another thing I know is that while Meghan was pregnant and post-delivery, they’ve both been working. I’ve seen evidence of this in the court circular (Harry) and with Vogue and Smart Works (Meghan). I guess I rest my case as a counter for whatever case you were making with your comment.

  12. Jessica says:

    I don’t care if the company has a carbon offset program or not, multiple luxury vacations in private jets is astoundingly tone deaf and shows, once again, that the wealthy only care about themselves and their comfort and their luxuries. The hate against Meghan is truly infuriating a lot of the time (FYI The Guardian’s Today in Focus podcast devoted a whole episode to it last week, it’s worth a listen), but I’m not going to defend this extravagance no matter who is doing it. The wealthy are so… gluttonous. And they do not care about the planet, ordinary people or making sacrifices of any kind. It is all branding and PR. I say this as someone who can’t help but like Meghan and Harry despite knowing this to be true.

    • Becks1 says:

      So, I think this is a valid point and I think its kind of what Kaiser is talking about in her post. We should be able to have a fun gossip session about their private vacation and the optics of it and whatever. But its hard to separate the negative coverage of Meghan and Harry from the coverage of Andrew, which is amping up but is still not where it should be.

      In general, the uber-wealthy have a gluttonous lifestyle as you put it, and it IS extravagant, and I am sort of scratching my head at how all the royals seem to be oblivious to the “optics” of it, especially with Brexit. Maybe none of you take an extravagant vacation this year? Maybe everyone just hangs out in Scotland or in some nice spa hotel in the UK?

      • Coz' says:

        100% agree with you Becks1

      • Enn says:

        Becks, right on to this! Their “staycations” would be our idea of a luxury getaway.

        I don’t begrudge anyone needing to disconnect for a few days, especially with kids. Absolutely enjoy uninterrupted family time because it goes so fast. Play games, go to the local pool, have a picnic, make your own pizza whatever. But your everyday UK citizen is feeling the pressure of Brexit and austerity measures right now so maybe all of you can skip your Mustique/Nice/ski/whatever trips this year?

      • Green Desert says:

        You make good points Becks, and if there were 250 posts on the “optics” of Will and Kate’s vacations, or Andrew flying by private jet everywhere (which he does) it would make more sense. But the fact of the matter is that so many people feel the need to express their outrage at everything the Sussex’s do. There’s a reason for that, and people don’t want to admit that to themselves.

      • Becks1 says:

        @greendesert – oh trust me, I’m with you. I get all that and have said the same many times, just in this thread alone lol. So that’s why my comment was directed at the entire British family and just how they seem sometimes to miss the forest for the trees. They really don’t seem able to read a room, so to speak.

      • Green Desert says:

        @Becks1 – Based on your comments I know you get it! And I understand and agree with the point you were making about the BRF in general. I’m just so surprised at the level of outrage that is directed just at H&M. We have people on here who are like “all of the BRF are spoiled/privileged/tone-deaf” but they ONLY comment negatively on Sussex posts. It makes me want to defend them for some dumb reason. :) They’re actually out there working and TRYING, which is way more than can be said for some of the other very visible members of the family.

      • Becks1 says:

        @GD – that is exactly it. people say “I’ll call them all out!” or “they all deserve criticism” and yet it is only Harry and Meghan who get this level of outrage aimed at them. I think when the Cambridges went to Mustique half of us rolled our eyes and half said it was fine. I don’t think any criticized how they got there.

      • noway says:

        I don’t think any of the royal family work that hard. Give me a break!!! Meghan and Harry may do more than William and Kate, but that’s not saying much. People act like they need these month long vacations. Their uber wealthy this is what they all do. Sure some are better than others but only marginally.

  13. Loretta says:

    LMAO to the Daily Mail asking people to contact them if they know where Harry and Meghan stayed while on vacation in Ibiza. They are desperate for infos and access to the Sussexes, this is the truth.

    • PrincessK says:

      Yes, that explains everything. Everyone, including those who are trying to hate Meghan, just cannot get enough of her. She is the most famous woman in the world, and she is also an enigma. Articles on Andrew are being moderated because of legal issues, same with the Rose Hanbury affair, so the comments are reduced. Harry and Meghan stories are rarely moderated because the stories are so silly, including the private jet stories. The media just want to have the Sussexes in the news by any means, whether they are doing public duties or private holidaying.

      The people, and yes including people who pretend to love Kate, find the Cambridges to be very boring personalities and so whatever they do, good or bad it will never be as hot as a silly Sussex story.

      The media are angry because they want more pictures of Archie on their terms , so that they can then dissect the poor mites facial and hair characteristics, precisely why the Sussexes rightly want to keep him out of view. The Sussexes can never ever win, and will never be left alone until someone else in the royal family comes along who is more interesting, and I just cannot see that happening.

      As for the use of private jets, if it prevents the media getting pics of them on holiday and working out where they are staying, and keeps them safe from many threats then I am all for private jets. I am sure they more than offset their carbon emissions in many various ways. I am a long standing environmentalist, in passion and professional practice, people are getting their knickers in a twist for no reason. Please concentrate on what YOU can do for the environment rather than having nightmares about the Sussexes in private jets.

    • Bella DuPont says:

      @ Loretta

      At what stage does this level of extreme harassment become illegal?

  14. Becks1 says:

    Whoops comment disappeared.

  15. Cidy says:

    The amount of money all these royals spend is ridiculous. This is why I just cant. It infuriates me. That money could go anywhere else! Housing, education, public programs, etc. But instead theres this beyond useless royal family. And let’s be clear, none of them actually work no not even Meg or Harry and doing a garden sketch while everyone else does all the hard work, doesnt count as working either Kate. They have ideas be it some wonderful, like Invictus Games etxc. and people in offices put them together and then they go back to living their best life.

    I can gossip royal fashion and insider gossip but the articles about vacations and who does the most “work” just makes me mad and I’ll always go with John Oliver’s lovely quote, “it’s a group of fundamentally flawed people doing a very silly pseudo job.”

    • Taryn says:

      It’s a tricky line to tread. People complain about tax payer money, and the amount of money the royal spend on clothes, houses, travel etc. But yet are quick to idolize Diana, religiously watch their events to talk about the fashion, or rave about the how the cute little queen in her castles can do no wrong. This type of lifestyle and behavior has always been and will always be a product of the monarchy as it is one single entity. I’m not saying that its wrong or right, because I am super guilty of being drawn in time after time, but where does it end? They all live this way all if we want to call out everything thats wrong with it then we should really be calling for the end of the monarchy should we not?

  16. AJ says:

    Thank you for bringing this up. The DM has had this as their cover story ALL weekend! Meanwhile Andrew is in the midst of a REAL scandal and the story is almost at the bottom of their web page. I also counted 4 stories about MM and Harry, one of which is a story about how William is worried that they are bringing shame to the monarch. Meanwhile Randy Andy is getting a pass. The British media are total sycophants.

    • IlsaLund says:

      Wait. The Daily Fail actually has an article about William being concerned H&M are bringing shame to the monarchy? What about pedo Andy? I guess that’s okay in the House of Windsor.

    • Vv says:

      They had the Mail on Sunday exclusive about the video of Andrew at Epstein’s home as main headline since Saturday night,until at least Sunday late afternoon. Their last trip wasn’t their cover story ALL weekend. I also think the Sun was the first to publish the pics in Nice.

      • AJ says:

        Thats weird, every single time I looked at that site Saturday night through this morning the top headline was their trip.

    • Beli says:

      I find it hilarious that they’re trying to claim that WILLIAM thinks the Sussexes are being too private and keeping Archie too secret. WILLIAM!

      • Becks1 says:

        Ugh my comments keep eaten.

        But yea….people seem to forget how protected those kids were for the first few years. We see them more now, but honestly not that much, it just seems like a lot because their appearances tend to be grouped together (so we saw them at the garden show, horse trials, trooping, polo, regatta, my guess is we will see them on the first day of school and then not again for many months). Hell we don’t see William and kate for weeks or months on end sometimes, and I think its been YEARS since we’ve seen pictures of William off-duty. (dad dancing anyone?) so yeah, their privacy is relatively intact.

        I think there is bad blood between William and Harry, but I don’t think it has anything to do with Harry wanting privacy for Archie.

  17. Peg says:

    If they stay a Frogmore Cottage it’s a problem, if they travel it’s a problem, just Meghan breathing is a freaking problem, so why not live well.

    • Belle says:

      I believe she (and she is not the only one the vacay but since she only pointed her out) can but don’t then tell others what to do. That is the argument of commenters on this site. It is hypocritical. They gained a fan in me because of the environmental stand and their credibility is out the window for this.

    • Belle says:

      Just as I am sure they are care about you defending them. It is just an opinion. Relax

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Maybe *you* should relax, considering you’re the one making multiple comments crying about how utterly disappointed you are in them. You and several other posters sound rather hysterical at this point 🙃

      • Linda says:

        @Beach Dreams
        Nah you are the one who sounds hysterical 😁😁.

      • Belle says:

        lol @ beach dreams, I still find it ridiculous, is that not ok? Anyway enjoy your day!!!

  18. pinkberry says:

    I see some commenters ignored that NetJets actually has a carbon-offset program.

    • Mumbles says:

      These sorts of “programs” just allow the rich to assuage whatever consciences they have. “Oh it’s okay I did this bad thing, I gave some money to a good cause.” It’s like buying an indulgence from the church in the medieval times.

      Sadly I think if the monarchy can survive the Duke of Windsor entertaining ideas of collaborating with Hitler, I think it will survive Andrew (even though it is an outdated institution that should go the same way as most other monarchies). But I could imagine a similar fate for Andrew – luxurious exile in a foreign country once Charles is king.

  19. Eliza says:

    Off setting carbon footprint by charging more…sure. They’re not planting trees, or buying land to preserve, they’re reducing unspecified waste (which they can only do so much of, plastic being needed for safety of equipment and food prep), and most likely buying (hence the price increase) carbon credits from others. Which is not the point of credits, they should always be left on the table to save this planet, not every last one used. The company said they were confident it wouldn’t hurt sales, but add value to them by making them look better – so more people will be using them.

  20. Eyfalia says:

    “A source on the island told MailOnline last week the Royals landed in Ibiza with several taxpayer-funded Met Police bodyguards for the ‘six-day trip’.”

    The taxpayer-funded bodyguards!! How stupid are the tabloids? What do they think how these Met Police bodyguards are getting paid? They get paid no matter where they are and who they protect. I know, it is quite unbelievable, but they get a monthly salary.

    Good God two flights. Each flight lasting about what 60 – 80 minutes x 4 is let’s say 5 hours altogether. A flight to Mystique takes how long? 8 hours one way at the minimum. So we have 16 hours at least. Yeah sure the Sussexes could have gone by bicycle. Or maybe walk.

    • Eliza says:

      They get paid no matter what, but their room (in 5 star hotel), food, and flights are also tax payer funded. It’s a business trip for them, they don’t pay for those additional costs.

      Both went to new places this summer which means security had to do a site check in advance to locations (also at taxpayer cost). The whole family is ridiculous.

      • bonobochick says:

        How do you know it was a business trip?

      • Becks1 says:

        she is saying its a business trip for the RPOs, so they don’t pay for the hotels and such obviously.

      • Eyfalia says:

        The scrutiny the Sussexes get is completely over the top.

        How much did Farages trip to Australia cost? He is also paid by the taxpayer and he also needs bodyguards.

        The tabloids act as if only the Sussexes travel by plane, but they all do it, all politicians. Everybody in the limelight needs bodyguards. This behaviour of the press and the people is pathetic.

        This is the new craze in the UK right now. They only look on what they give and don’t look at what they get.

        The Sussexes need even more protection because of the hate and racism thrown at them. One thing leads to another. More hate, more protection, more costs, even more hate, much more protection ……

        A Police protection officer on duty is supplied with food and drink and will not have to search for the next food store. And their accommodation is in the full package.

      • Maria says:

        +1 Eyfalia

        I grew up in politics and the amount of jets even regular politicians use is insane.

  21. Belle says:

    There is nothing to defend, it is ridiculous! It is a horrible look and the Criticism is warranted. This doesn’t mean they don’t care about the environment but don’t tell others what to do.

    • pinkberry says:

      Did you read that NetJets has a mandatory 100% carbon neutral policy and has done for over 10 years ? Many people are lazy readers.

      • Brunswickstoval says:

        pink berry read eliza’s comment a little higher about how this negative offset and carbon neutral isn’t what it’s cracked up to be. It’s something rich people do to make themselves feel less guilty.

      • Belle says:

        No, we are not lazy readers but actually I chose to base opinion depending on the subject at hand as opposed to jumping blindly on bandwagons just because. I feel no affiliation or obligation to act a certain way but I am entitled to arrive at a different conclusion all things considered as are you.

      • noway says:

        Not a lazy reader, but imagine if you donated the money and took a commercial flight. Wouldn’t that have saved a lot more resources?

    • hype says:

      +1 Belle

  22. Jojo says:

    Let’s stop pretending that they are ordinary people. They are extremely wealthy members of the British Royal family who have serious, valid privacy concerns. There is NO way they could fly commercial with Archie. It would be a nightmare for everyone involved; they would needs tonnes of security and their presence would create a huge disruption for all the other travellers.

    They are doing their part for the environment and are also living their lives. Judging them for back to back vacations is just silly. The Royal Family is not going to change, this is what they do. As long as they aren’t skipping events to go on holiday, who cares!!

    • Taryn says:

      Are there valid criticisms for the impact that flying private causes on the environment? of course! But do people honestly expect that members of the royal family with a newborn would be able to peacefully fly commercial without a disruption to other passengers and staff? The daily mail is out for blood anyway, if they flew commercial the headlines would be saying how needy the sussexes are for attention and how inconsiderate they were to everyone else.

      • Eliza says:

        Babies are generally good fliers. My daughter was a breeze at 6 months. And they’re short flights, how much annoyance could they bring with a baby? Crying? So what? But toddlers, omg, they’re insane on flights because staying still isn’t their forte. Mine was awful, I had mom shame face the entire trip controlling mine. However if Louis can take commercial to the Caribbean, Archie would be ok on commercial on a much shorter flight. They’d be in first class away from everyone. They could be last to board so no one saw them. Airports get high risk VIPs on all the time, and because public airports have more security than private, and they’re used to the high level of security involved it’s usually easier for the private security team. They’re not going through the same security lines we do, they have special processes.

      • Taryn says:

        @Eliza I was more saying that because they haven’t released many photos of Archie and taken him out “officially” in public before, it would be disruptive as undoubtedly they would be reporters and possibly even passengers trying to take photos and video, trying to sell etc. They have flown commercially before, but maybe they just wanted an extra sense of privacy like the Cams and every other member of the BRF do all the time. As I said, I think once the hype has died out and Archie gets a little older, they will most likely alternate between commercial and private. Can privacy and safety truly be guaranteed for them without the media making a big deal out of the extra precautions they would need to take? Again, I’m all for people calling out hypocrisy, but this to me is something that needs to be addressed with the monarchy as a whole and not just a media circus every time H&M do something.

      • noway says:

        They could have bought out first class and it still would have been a lot less resources. I think they could have travelled that way if they were doing what Harry was saying we all should do think about our own resource use. Sure a private jet is more comfortable, I’m sure although never been, but no way around it it’s a resource eater.

    • Elisabeth says:

      The Cambridges fly commercial to Mustique, or at least, they fly commercial to St. Lucia and then take a small sea plane to Mustique. There are pictures of Kate holding baby Prince George and disembarking at the front of a British Airways plane while the plebes disembark from the middle and back. If Baby Prince George, third in line to the throne, can be on a commercial flight, then there’s no reason baby Private Citizen Archie can’t be on a commercial flight. This is a silly argument.

      • Becks1 says:

        But the Cambridges have flown via private plane before, to france and Switzerland. Meghan and Harry have flown commercial before. So both families do what works for them within their means for a particular vacation.

        and that trip to Mustique you are referencing was when George was somewhere from 6 months to a year old (I’m not going to double check now). That’s different than traveling with a newborn in terms of germ exposure. And honestly, I would not be surprised if there WERE significant security concerns regarding Archie.

      • February Pisces says:

        @elisabeth they all fly commercial and the all fly private. There is no way to even begin to compare who flys on what the most. I’ve seen pics online of harry literally sitting in economy. Sometimes flying private can be more cost effective depending on how many people are traveling. If your having to pay for a whole family plus staff and security especially if it’s a short distance, it can be cheaper than booking individual tickets. Celebrities tend to fly commercial when going on a long haul flight as they tend to be very expensive.

  23. Honeybadger says:

    They set themselves up for criticism of this kind. The criticism is legitimate given Harry’s speech about the environment.

    • Becks1 says:

      But they ALL make speeches about the environment. well okay not all, but Charles and William definitely do. William has been pro-environment for years. I don’t remember the outrage after he and Kate took private jets to France, to Switzerland, to Mustique, or after William took one to Davos. Charles has certainly used private planes before. And so on.

      And I know people say “well they all deserve criticism for it,” which is legitimate, but that’s not how it shakes out.

      and the tone in some of the articles makes it seem like they are actually angry about the luxury vacation itself, and they are using the private plane as a cover for that.

  24. Mego says:

    Until the story is confirmed I will not believe it tbh.

  25. Chunkyla says:

    The funny thing is people were quick to call our the Cambs for going on back-to-back holidays until KP shut that Camp Google rumour down ASAP. Now the same people are quite about the Sussex’s taking back-to-back holidays lol.

    And maybe the Cambs used NetJets too? So that makes it better right? 🙄

    Aside from that, if they (mostly Harry) wants to lecture people about the environment then they should rightly be called out when they don’t practice what they preach. It just seems really dumb to take so many individual trips on private jets in such a short space of time. These trips could have easily been combined to make them more environmentally friendly.

    • bonobochick says:

      Is there proof they even went to Ibiza? The only proof seems to be the one trip to the south of France.

      People talk about the other royal family members taking private planes and staying in expensive resorts / accomodations but some folks just seem so much angrier and more vitriolic when the Sussexes do it. Very telling.

      • Wowsers says:

        If they didn’t go they would have had some friendly reporter like Omid deny it. They went.

      • hype says:

        Yes KP was quick to deny the Cambridges presence in camp google. Meanwhile, BP on the Sussexes have declined to comment on several instances these past two weeks. Remember when Omid proclaimed a quiet and small birthday celebration in Frogmore with a small group of friends and Archie? I wonder how he feels now.

      • Jane'sWastedTalent says:

        hype- Well maybe that’s what happened. We don’t know, the Ibiza trip has yet to be confirmed.

    • Vv says:

      Reportedly,at least this time they flew on a BA scheduled plane to St Lucia.

      • Peg says:

        @hype
        Why would Omid feel any thing, BP said she was having a quiet birthday, so she had a quiet birthday and if true left 2 days later.
        Was she suppose to tell Omid their plans?

      • hype says:

        I suspect Omid is the unofficial mouthpiece for Meghan. And flying 2 days later after the actual date, to me, still constitutes a birthday celebration.

    • Taneesha says:

      Nobody is lecturing anyone. People make conscious decisions to click on Prince Harry interviews, comments, articles etc. If you don’t wanna be “lectured” you have a choice: don’t follow them, don’t listen to what they have to say, don’t click on any articles related to them. But you don’t expose yrsrlf to all this yet cry about how you being lectured. Nobody is forcing anyone to sit down and listen or get on their computer and click on Harry related articles. Also, if you going to get outraged about “lecturers on the environment” and criticize them, them please do so with equal energy and anger to prince William, prince Charles prince Phillip etc. Singling out the Sussexes while you turn a blind eye to the carbon print contribution from the rest of them renders yr criticisms into something else.

  26. pinkberry says:

    I agree with Richard Fitzwilliams. Harry and Meghan can’t win. For two family holidays with Archie, they need privacy or the press would be in pursuit.

    • Timbuktu says:

      Oh no! They can’t win? Have they tried not taking 2 vacations back-to-back? I know, how dare I, such a hardship.

      • Peg says:

        Even if they did not take two vacations, people would be still whinging.
        Her nose.
        Her Hair.
        Her clothes.
        Her shoes.
        Her skin.
        Her tongue.
        Her breathing.
        Holding their child.
        Every freaking thing about Meg bothers some people, all the dog whistles not fooling any one.

  27. Arnk says:

    The people who will jump through hoops to defend them are just as ridiculous as those that hate them for breathing. M&H are just as big of hypocrites as Leo is. They’re not going to fix the world or ruin it. Harry is just a privileged and entitled man who never had to work for the wealth he lives in and never had to face any consequences for any of his actions, no matter how offensive. Why would he not be a hypocrite?

    The “charity” the royals do will never outweigh their detrimental effect on society and their upholding of a very damaging class system. And I say “charity” because I think charity without politics is empty and short lasting.

    I hope Andrew brings the whole monarchy down. They have no place in this present or future society.

  28. Rogue says:

    I haven’t seen pics of them in Ibiza and by number of questions the Fail had about their reported stay I question if it is even true. Given they had reported just last week they were going to be in Balmoral for Meghan’s bday where she could be ticked off by the Queen, these Ibiza reports don’t have much credibility to me.

    We’ve seen (verified) reports of them flying commercial so not like they haven’t before and im sure they will do again. Not sure why they used a private jet just for south of France but at least they are using one with a carbon neutral programme. Isn’t the point they are trying to travel green?

    There are currently more comments on this private jet story on the Fail on this AND on this site than Prince Andrew’s ridiculous Epstein statement yet some claim this holiday story isn’t a distraction and people can condemn both.

    And speaking of hypocrisy claims why more attention to say 4 private jet flights (assuming Ibiza story is true) in a month then Prince Andrew’s work supporting women escaping sex abuse, such work after he had been pictured with convicted sex offender Epstein in 2010?

    • Taryn says:

      I believe on this instance it’s due to the fact that they are traveling with Archie and on a private family holiday. If/when they have been on official royal duty and traveled with a larger team they have been on commercial flights in the past and I think they will go back and forth once archie is older and the hype around them as a couple dies . This is nothing new for the royal family and I don’t know why people are acting like they are the first and last royals to do so.

  29. Mak says:

    The optics of that smiley church photo op was way worse than any private jet

  30. Wowsers says:

    Wasn’t Harry just also saying that us plebs should avoid popular holiday spots as we are destroying the vibe? Good to see him practising what he preaches and going to those little known, off the beaten track villages of Nice and Ibiza. LMAO

    do as a say and not as I do applies to he and Will both it seems. At least both of them put together aren’t half as gross as their pedo uncle so there’s that.

    • Smices says:

      I don’t recall him saying anything like that.

    • Bonnyday says:

      Yes, Harry’s did recently warn that people were ruining certain popular vacation destinations. He promotes sustainable tourism, but apparently only for the regular peeps who can’t afford to vacation in exclusive or uncrowded, remote destinations. He attended a conference on this last March.

  31. Darla says:

    Most of the comments on this article are comments complaining that there are more comments on this article than on the pedo andy article. Just sayin.

    • Becks1 says:

      I count 5 comments total – 4 at the top (including mine) and your comment here. And now this comment, so 6. So those comments are not the reason this post has so many more comments than the Andrew post.

      • Darla says:

        The first SEVEN comments on this thread are about exactly what I stated. I am not going through the entire 100 plus comments to count them, but i only had to count the first SEVEN comments to know you’re mistaken. I’m done here.

      • Becks1 says:

        I counted too. The first two or three comments are actually about the Daily Mail, not this site. So, not the first seven comments. And even if it was 7 or 10 comments – this post has a lot more comments, and a lot more anger, than the Andrew threads. And its not a difference of 5-7-10 posts. That point still stands. It’s a weird hill to die on, to be honest.

  32. MeghanNotMarkle says:

    I’m all for calling out ALL OF THEM for this waste. 3 private jets in 8 days is unnecessary. I mean, yeah, something could be thrown in for their foundation or charities that we don’t know about, but with the knowledge I DO have I’m going to call it excessive. But let’s be fair and call out the others for their jetsetting, too.

  33. Other Renee says:

    Occasionally I post a pro Sussex comment on the Fail just to rile up all the haters. I am mercilessly red arrowed of course. Re this article I asked whether William and Kate flew commercial to Mustique for their current holiday, I was of course red arrowed, and one irate person responded that since they and Pippa and her family plus all the security staff numbered at least a dozen, that justified a private jet, and at least William and Kate didn’t display hypocrisy by preaching about saving the environment!

    “Hmmmm 🤔 “ I thought. “So it’s ok to fly privately as long as you aren’t a hypocrite about it. Ok. Got it.”

  34. MeganBot2000 says:

    Pretending that Ibiza is some kind of ultra luxe millionaires’ playground is pretty effing funny.

    Here in the UK Ibiza is infamous for being one of the places British students go for ultra-cheap summer holidays and to get totally wasted. It’s the equivalent of Americans going to Cancun or somewhere.

    I’m sure there are expensive parts and I’m sure Harry and Meghan are in one of those parts, not one of the trashy parts filled with pubs where you can buy 8 shots for £5, 2-1 on WKD Blue, and watch a load of blokes named Barry moon each other then pass out in a pile of their own vomit. But yeah Ibiza isn’t some kind of super elite place they’re making it out to be.

    • Ibizan In NL says:

      They’re part of the extended Royal Family and they took a private plane there. They ain’t visiting the cheap bits, Querida. And the super elite bits of Ibiza are every bit as super elite as the super elite bits of anywhere else, jsyk.

    • Syd says:

      Ibiza is considered to be sort of tacky, I’ve heard. Right?

  35. Citresse says:

    My, how times have changed.
    Diana lambasted by the royals when she complained about the Balmoral weather and the fact she found it so incredibly dull, so she left and was photographed shopping in London.
    We have gone from that to HM’s endless tolerance of pedo-prince Andy, private jets, hypocrisy, etc….Get rid of these leeches

  36. Busyann says:

    Eh, Im okay with the multiple vacations. The ttip to Ibiza was only a week. I bet this trip will only be a week too. Sure they are taking multiple trains, but in terms of time, it’s still on par with the Cambridges.

  37. Jean says:

    My husband and I go on several holidays in the summer, so do some of my workmates. We will also holiday this fall and hopefully in the middle of winter. We love to see new places. Do the activities we love in different places. We are not rich. Planet earth is beautiful and should be seen and appreciated.

  38. Myra says:

    Brits continue with their abuse of Harry/Meghan/Archie…meanwhile Andrew??

  39. Tonya says:

    Harry and now, Megan, are entitled rich eco-hypocrites. What else is new? They all do this why is it that Megan and her spouse get put on blast more than anyone? Rich people thinking the rules don’t apply to them has been going on since the dawn of time…

    Thats why I don’t litter, I recycle, leave no trace in the wilderness and I recently thought about volunteering with a local conservation group. I don’t keep myself up at night about my carbon foot print and impact on the planet earth because people like Harry stand up at a google conference in Italy and say we should save the planet. What the preachy rich people mean is WE normal and poor people should save the planet and they will continue to fly on private jets and waste precious resources.
    :-)

  40. PrincessK says:

    But yes, she does need to wear couture and carrying on giving her opinion. People want the most famous woman in the world to look good. Meghan looking good makes tons of money for the fashion industry at large as well the media. Since Diana there has been a drought in terms of her royal woman who combines both style and charisma. Meghan is in a powerful position and can get what she wants. Very few people would say no to having an association with Meghan.

    People need to get real and understand how the game works. Royalty are not your people next door and cannot be judged in the same way, although the Yorks have more than overstretched it and are dearly paying the price right now.

  41. Sam says:

    I remember the complaint some had on here when they travelled commercial and now its complaints they flew private,they cant win.

    • Timbuktu says:

      Too bad the plebes don’t have the right to go on holiday and fly private when they want. But I’m glad we at least secured that “right” for the royals, that’s a load off my mind.

      • Jane'sWastedTalent says:

        Sure we do. If we can’t afford it, that’s not the same as not having the right to it.

  42. intheknow says:

    If I had the ability to fly privately, I would. I broke my knees hiking in Peru. Joints don’t heal. My back sucks(welcome the the 40s). I fly first or business class where I have my own ‘pod’ and my seat reclines into a ‘bed’. They’d have to rip my first class tickets out of my cold dead hands.

    That said, rather than live in gigantic McMansion, I have small condo. I don’t buy excess clothes that will end up in a dumpster because I don’t wear them. I recycle though I have my doubts that my recycles get recycled. I am distressed by all this ‘progess’, chopping down trees, using farm lands to build more condos (I know I know) and more McMansions…and I think, what can I do???

    Back to Harry and Meghan, the need a new platform. The environmental thing is starting out badly and it will end badly. There are a thousand things to champion and make a difference. But I refuse to fly less so they can fly and consume more. Does a family of 3 really need a 10 bed room home? Nope. And I am not suggesting they live in an RV…my point is, theirs is a lifestyle of monumental consumption so it grinds my gears to hear them preach about environment. I am not buying what they are selling, not on this issue.

    And if they want to change the optics they’re going to have to trot out Archie and his chubby cheeks and red hair. That I look forward to.

    • Sam says:

      They dont live in a 10 bedroom home though

      • intheknow says:

        What ever..10 or 5. My point is…there lifestyle is one of huge consumption. So it’s grinds my gears to hear them go on on about our choices while making no changes to there. Just like Big Willie lecturing people on having less kids whilst his wife is knocked up with baby number 3.

        I HATE the cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy.

    • blue36 says:

      Frogmore cottage is a 4 bedroom house.

    • kerwood says:

      @intheknow They should use their child as ransom. So it’s NOT the so-called the hypocrisy that’s pissing people certain off. It’s the fact that they are living their lives without involving the whole world. How dare this BLACK woman (because let’s not pretend who is REALLY being criticized) not only marry a prince but take advantage of the perks that go along with marry a prince.

      Harry walked behind the coffin of a woman who shared her life with the WHOLE WIDE WORLD. Wonder why he thinks that the world ISN’T entitled for his child as payment for a little peace.

      • Becks1 says:

        The comment about trotting out Archie is really gross. It makes it sound like the royal reporters will just stop *all this* and all the critics will shut up if they can get a picture of Archie. Like the photocall after his birth. Like the picture released for father’s day. or the pictures from the christening. Or the video/pictures of him from the polo match.

        The RRs are never going to stop as far as I can tell.

      • intheknow says:

        @kerwood, try to read with the effort to understand vs reading to go on the attack. THIS BLACK WOMAN (ME) is not OK with the cognitive dissonance. Direct me to where I said they should ransom their child and I will leave this site and never return. Your hysterics is making it hard to take you seriously.

        People like you like to muddy the debate about what the right thing to do is; you have no other argument other than crying racism. I suppose it is possible for a black person to be racist against another black person.

        ***shrugs shoulders***

        I’m off to go work toward getting a life of private jets.

        Ta.

      • Jane'sWastedTalent says:

        ‘And if they want to change the optics they’re going to have to trot out Archie and his chubby cheeks and red hair. That I look forward to. ‘

        Sorry, but that sounds just like the RR mentality with nicer phrasing. :-/

        Please don’t feel like you should leave though.

        Excellent points, kerwood and Becks1.

  43. Cat Ca says:

    But but but………….the Cambridges’ trip to
    Mustique!!!!! Whenever there is valid criticism, the automatic default is “BUT THE CAMBRIDGES”!!!!!! Very low level thinking.
    The mental gymnastics many posters take to excuse Harry and Meghan’s hypocritical behaviour is very Trumpian. Ironic, no?

    • Taryn says:

      People are quick to compare the cambridges because they don’t get nearly the amount of criticism in the media as the sussexes do for both doing very similar things. It’s hypocritical to give harry and meghan a pass for flying private while saying how we all need to worry about the environment yes, but a lot of people are calling out the hypocrisy of the media and commenters online at the Daily mail who seem to forget that all the royals have done the same thing. The only difference is they (more specifically meghan) get the worst of it. It’s more of a ‘keep the same energy’ thing than mental gymnastics IMO.

    • Nic919 says:

      They are being compared to the Cambridges because the Cambridges use private jets and talk about the environment just like Harry and Meghan are being accused of doing. So instead of looking stupid and not understanding why that comparison is made perhaps you should use a dictionary and read up on the term mental gymnastics because it doesn’t mean what you claim it does.

    • February Pisces says:

      The Cambridge’s are used to highlight hypocrisy. If the criticism was dished out fairly, than fair enough, but it isn’t. For example the press came down hard on Meghan because her security stopped a guy from pointing a camera in her face at Wimbledon. Literally a week or so earlier the Cambridge’s security ran down an elderly woman in the street nearly killing her, and crickets from the press. The Cambridge’s didn’t even bother visiting the old lady to pretend they cared, cos they didn’t need to because the press covered their backs. Neither are personally to blame for these incidents as it was their staff, but Meghan WAS personally blamed just cos a guy didn’t get a picture, yet no outrage for the poor woman who will probably never recover fully. That’s just one example of the hypocrisy, there are about a 100 others I could go into.

  44. Lisa says:

    Doing the most over what is still technically her maternity leave and the fact is the private plane is ecofriendly. The mail just wants to bash them and the outrage is ridiculous. They can’t fly commercial because they will be picked apart and if they fly private they will be picked apart. Is it any wonder no other eleihible woman.wanted to marry into the family.

  45. kerwood says:

    If the pearl-clutchers care so much about the environment, perhaps they should back the hell up off the Sussex family. If I was the Duchess AND had a newborn baby there’s no way in hell that I’d travel commercial with all the lunatics out there who want to disappear me and mine. I’d take a private jet to cross the street.

    • RoyalBlue says:

      The pearl clutcher newbies aren’t protesting the Russian nuclear explosion or drilling for oil either. The moved across here to pile on the DOS. Are they protesting the elitist education only the wealthy can afford or do they think the royal kids should attend state funded schools. Do they expect their royalty to sit in the gilded cage and stay in the UK forever, in their one lone castle, while skyping all their meetings and only wear high street clothing while wearing the same court shoes. Maybe they should have only electric cars and solar powered buildings. Nah the cost to solar power them will be protested. Miss me with that.

  46. Beach Dreams says:

    I find it hilarious how at least half of the critical comments here are from new posters (nice brigading) or posters who rarely ever talk about the other royals. You guys are so desperate.

    • Cat Ca says:

      “You guys”????
      So, a NEW posters comment is not valid simply because they haven’t posted before?
      So the regular posters don’t appreciate diversity, I guess.
      This is so similar to Trump’s supporters xenophobia. I suppose I’m not the “right” kind of commenter.

      • Yami says:

        Oh God, please, this is the most specious argument ever.

      • Becks1 says:

        That’s right. CBers are exactly like trump supporters. You’ve made that analogy twice now and it just falls flat.

      • notasugarhere says:

        From my experience, new-found Kate fans (aka Meghan haters) are Trump supporters. And they’re obvious on here.

    • notasugarhere says:

      They keep coming after CB and Kaiser for their mostly pro-Meghan stance. Enclave24, KateMiddletonReview, LoveLola, other sites they went after and the writers gave up.

      They don’t realize CB and Kaiser won’t cave to them.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The brand new names, flocking all over posts to criticism Meghan are obvious. Easy to track from site to site when you recognize writing styles. Many new-found Kate “fans” are racist Meghan haters in thin disguise. They show their MAGA Idiot ID cards quickly.

  47. RoyalBlue says:

    I have taken 14 plane rides for the year so far and will hit at least 20 by the end of the year. You would be amazed at how much travel people do because how else do we move between continents etc. And yes I care about the environment and use paper straws and carry my own bags to stores to reduce my use of plastic etc. what the help is wrong with people falling into the daily mail trap. Do people even know what countries have the highest CO2 emissions? Or are they just responding to the dog whistles? Do they put as much fervor in protesting that? I am sorry this is a blatant ad hominem attack.

  48. Valiantly Varnished says:

    177 comments on this story. And 67 on the story about Epstein hanging out at Balmoral and Windsor Castle. Everyone wants to know why the DM and the Sun run with stories like this. Exhibit A. Y’all would rather argue over private jets and trips than talk about a pedophile hanging out on Royal property.

    • MsIam says:

      Agree with you on that VV. Those are the real “hypocrites”. But my theory is its just the same 2-3 people posting under different names to get folks stirred up. I’m not playing that game anymore. Go Harry and Meg! Vacation away, you deserve it, especially after this hellish year.

      • Valiantly Varnished says:

        Yup. It’s why I’m not commenting as much on these stories. Im not feeding these racist *ss trolls anymore.

      • jenny says:

        you just hijacked another post to comment on this, same thing

      • Yami says:

        Yep, I saw someone make a mistake here and answer themselves under the same name. You gotta be a better troll than that.

      • Clancy says:

        In my opinion, there are fewer comments on the Prince Albert story because there is no disagreement. He’s gross. Case closed. We can speculate on the details but…ugh! Clearly, people have more to say about this story because it’s not as cut and dry. There are vast differences of opinion. We all must be accountable for our words and actions. Harry needs to learn that when he makes big statements and then turns and does the opposite, people will call him out. Maybe he/they should not have selected environmentalism as a major cause if their lifestyle makes it so easy for them to be hypocritical. It’s pretty simple from my perspective. Why are people so quick to defend them over this? I find it so interesting. You don’t need to agree with 100% everything they do to show you’re a fan. They’re not your friends or family. They’re not your fave baseball team. They’re human and make mistakes. It’s so odd to me. But of course, other people have different opinions which is O.K. To each their own.

      • jenny says:

        @ clancy, tbh I think some people only go on this site to desperately tell everyone how wrong they are. it must be an ego boost or something. the repetitive comments, every single day, multiple times on the same thread, is very telling.

    • Tigerlily says:

      VV: Sadly you are correct

  49. Marie says:

    If Harry and Meghan stayed home and took a country drive it would be seen as CONTROVERSIAL due to them driving a car. I really don’t care that they flew commercial or private. All royals vacation this month and all seem to take private jets to their destination. The treatment with W&K and how theirs is a nice, sweet family vacation from all of the hard work they do is more ridiculous. Harry and Meghan deserve a vacation too and how they get there is fine with me. Also, I think the Ibiza story was to throw the press off on where they really went. Since the royals never confirm or deny where they go on vacation, we will never know. The press can say they went to 10 different places and people will actually believe them.

  50. Le4Frimaire says:

    This is so ridiculous. Now the tabloids are calling them eco-warriors and eco-lecturers because they like elephants and say we should care about planet, as if they chain themselves to redwoods between flying on private jets. Those same people are saying nasty things about Greta Thunberg for taking a sailboat across the Atlantic. As for their trips, so what. I bet the Spain trip was a last minute birthday present and the France trip was already planned. I travelled to both Europe and SE Asia this summer for vacations , sometimes things come up, but I still recycle and compost. 🙄

  51. Syd says:

    Genuine question. I keep seeing people making comments about how Meghan should shut up about the environment if she uses private jets. I don’t recall her actively working on climate change?

    I think this is on topic: Today is Orangutan Day! I invite you all to consider your palm oil consumption. There is plenty of information online about brands and companies that are largely responsible for deforestation and orangutans dying every day.
    We can all do our bit to help. Planting trees, not consuming palm oil and not supporting companies that abuse the environment is something we can all do.

  52. Whatabout says:

    I don’t care. If they were just rich people flying private for the sake of it, then I would side eye it. But they’re one of the most famous couples in the world! And they weren’t flying across the globe but a few hours away.

    But I totally wish we got a glimpse of baby Archie. Lol. He looks so big for a three month old. I think George was a big baby too?

  53. kerwood says:

    Why the pretense that this is about the Sussex harming the planet or their ‘hypocrisy’? I have no doubt that even the loudest Sussex critic would hop on a private jet to go around the block, if they could. Planet be damned.

    This is about a BLACK woman who not only had the nerve to marry a prince but actually seems to be enjoying it. Her comment to Pharrell brought a little comfort to the haters. Nothing like Black tears to make them happy. But she still continues to love (and be loved) by her baby and her husband and they can’t stand that.

    I really like Angelina Jolie. She usually travels by private plane. I saw a mob attack her and Brad Pitt at TIFF several years ago and I wouldn’t blame her if she NEVER wanted to deal with regular people again. Angelina is a woman who’s committed to many causes. The only people who criticize Jolie are die-hard Aniston fans. I can’t recall EVER seeing her called a hypocrite for taking private planes. I wonder what the difference is?

    • celialarson12 says:

      Kerwood your are right. The outrage is not about the enviroment. It is about the DOS living the lifestyle of the 1%. The Daily Fail crowd has found new grounds. Meghan continue living your life and yes If I had a young child and could afford to fly by private jet I would do it every single time and especially if I had lunatics wishing death on me and my child.

      About the environment – just where is the balance ? I was recently at a party where 2 women almost came to blows about this. One of the women was just telling people that she had recently come home from the Maldives. The other woman looked at her and asked whether she wasn`t embarrased to be talking about yet another travel ,seeing this was her 6th holiday travel for the year. Did she not care for the carbon print, the effect on the environment. Wasn`t she ashamed about the kind of world she would be leaving behind for the future generations….
      The holidaying woman looked at the other woman and asked her ” How dare you speak to me about the environment !!!? You with your 4 children, you who continues to litter the earth with human beings it does need and has no resources to support ? Shut up !!!! In case you have not noticed I chose not to procreate, not to overload the earth for the so called future generations and I will travel all I want thank you very much… ” the other guests had to step in to stop what soon turned out to be a punch throwing match.

      I say kudos to eco warriors for making us others aware. I will do my bit for the environment in my own way but how to do it is my own choice.
      As previously said one man`s luxurious waste is another man`s standard of living.

    • Gingerbee says:

      @ Kerwood. Yes to all your points. William flew Davos to talk about the environment, but we have not heard squeak about it.

  54. Lowrider says:

    I don’t believe the Ibiza story…seems completely made up.

  55. Le4Frimaire says:

    Well Elton John posted how he provided jet and home and contributed to carbon offsets ( although I’m personally not sure about how that works or how effective that is). It’s all over his Twitter and Instagram so maybe tabloids can ask him what he paid to host guests at his house , given how close he was to Harry’s mother. Guess the press they can go back to calling them too Hollywood or celebrities.

    • LindaS says:

      Carbon offsets dont take away from what this is doing for the environment. Money suddenly clears up the jet pollution or what? Laughable how the rich think this is helpful. Elton John could have sent the donation express mail and they should have said no to the invitation and stayed home. Harry always seemed dim but now they are both looking not very bright and/or very arrogant

      • Jaded says:

        So everyone should stop flying. So everyone should suddenly buy an electric car. So vacations should be staycations in a tent in your back yard. Do you know what the most polluting vacation you can take is? A cruise ship (or container barge for commercial purposes). They use the most toxic brand of fuel, they dump untold millions of tons of garbage and sewage into the ocean. Everyone is up in arms over M & H taking a private, short haul, carbon-reducing flight to a vacation spot. All of you who are so full of righteous indignation are barking up the wrong tree. Furthermore, M & H have not been wagging their fingers and bloviating about how all of us plebes have to do more to forestall global warming and lessen the impact of pollution. What are you all doing? I, for one, am an ardent recycler, I only fly about once a year, I walk almost everywhere or take public transit, I use bio-degradable kitty litter, I use compostable garbage bags, and we have a gas-sipping car we rarely use and have had for 10 years. It will probably be the last car we buy as we use it so infrequently we only have to fill up 3-4 times a year. I belong to a group that regularly polices the beaches where I live to collect garbage.

        What are you doing?

    • notasugarhere says:

      Elton and Nacho are both now posting about it. The tabloids weren’t expecting Harry and Meghan to have such public support (Elton John, Serena Williams, Beyonce, Nacho, Clooney).

      Andrew who? Rose who?

  56. Wadsworth the Butler says:

    Since it’s been reported that the Sussexes’ jets are carbon neutral, the “hypocrisy” brigade is now complaining that “only the rich” can afford to be carbon neutral. They simply attack anyone who advocates for the environment on ideological grounds.

    • Sof says:

      As far as I understand, carbon neutral means that you donate money to an association that either is trying to create a new way of travel without damaging the environment or that has a sort of plan contributing to a certain area, for example, forest preservation. We still don’t know if this is effective on the long term, the programs are on the early stages.

      So yes, giving money to “clean” their actions is something rich people have always done. In this case, it was Elton John.

      • Wadsworth the Butler says:

        First the complaint is that they didn’t practice what they preach. Then when it turns out they tried to practice what they preach, the complaint morphs into something else. And it’s always the same people complaining, because their ideological goal is to generate cynicism against anyone who promotes conservation.

      • Sof says:

        I agree with you except on this part “their ideological goal is to generate cynicism against anyone who promotes conservation”.
        Their goal in this case is to go against Meghan. Remember the avocado story?

      • Mae says:

        Carbon Neutral is a term used to describe carbon based fuels that when burned will not increase carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. These fuels neither contribute to nor reduce the amount of carbon into the atmosphere.

    • PrincessK says:

      Well l said it much earlier that the carbon emissions would somehow be offset. I don’t think it was even necessary for Elton to have to explain but l suppose like many of us he has almost reached the end of his tether and couldn’t contain himself any longer.

      The carbon emissions are not the point, the real issue is that the Sussexes are being treated differently, and double standards will always be used to judge them.

      I also note a lot of jealous reactions from people who want to have a go at the super rich, who we actually create, worship and put on pedal stools so we can knock them down. If private planes will keep the Cambridge’s safe from all the threats then they should carry on flying private.

    • MsIam says:

      Or the complaint is “optics because Brexit!!” These people (or person take your pick) will always have an ax to grind against the Sussexes. I’m not sure what will make them happy. So who cares, live your best lives Meghan & Harry and screw these folks. They’re deplorables!

  57. Green Desert says:

    My question to all of you who are pissed about this: why don’t you display this outrage when William and Kate fly private? William is also an environmental advocate.

    Deny it all you want, but many of you are much quicker to criticize *ahem* certain royals more than others. Ask yourself why that is.

  58. liriel says:

    I was furious about Epstein but now I’m like.. Everything Meghan and Harry do is excused because the Cambridges.. Someone said this. Maybe we admit that they’re hypocrites, Ibiza then right away Nice – definitely not rural destinations. If we criticise K&W maybe we can take a look at the other couple too? Anyway, the BRR doesn’t have great press lately, Andrew (the biggest overlooked issue I’m furious about) another couples. Holidays holidays. Honestly I thought Meghan was a bit smarter to appear more down to earth and at least better at hiding. Out of sight out of mind..

    • celialarson12 says:

      Meghan should appear down to earth !!!!? You mean be the bargain duchess !! ? Yes, not wear Givenchy and Gucci like the other Royals !!?

      I wonder how many enraged posters have sold their cars and bought donkey carts seeing as they care so much about the environment, since the sentence “most convenient form of transport at a given time, at a given situation” does not occur to them.

      • intheknow says:

        I tried riding a donkey once. It’d didn’t work out to well. I’ll be sticking to planes, trains and automobiles until we can do a “beam me up Scottie”.

        Thanks for laugh with the donkey comment.

      • Ina says:

        People would still fault Meghan had she worn schmatta while riding a camel to travel to Ibiza and Nice.

      • liriel says:

        No, hypocrisy is just that. Own that. “No second kid because enviromental issues” etc yet the jet set lifestyle. I’d do the same, I’m just not claiming anything.

    • MsIam says:

      Better at hiding what? Why should H&M hide when they haven’t done anything wrong? And as far as criticizing K&W, the criticism was minimal compared to the comments on here and other spots. In fact, I mostly saw questions about why there was no criticism of the Cambridges because if you don’t want to get after them for flying private, even part of the way, then surely a luxury vacation at the time of Brexit?!! Clutch the pearls!

      • liriel says:

        Nothing wrong, just hypocrisy and they’re royals whose issue is exactly this. Otherwise it’s obvious – the rich fly a lot. But we were pissed about the 1% summit and the way they got there.

  59. FredsMother says:

    I read the long list of comments. I see a lot of ‘economically anxious’ and ‘environmentally anxious’ Beckies over here today. 😁😁😁😂😂😂🤣. Y’all can swell up with envy and jealousy then deflate with disappointment and immense longing over your inability to snag a good man with jetsetting, rich friends like Elton John and the Clooneys. Pretty sure when you’re all done here you’ll be hopping in your mid-priced SUVs for the 10 minute commute to Surburbialand.

    Meanwhile, I only care about what Archie wore, who decorated Elton’s pile in Nice.. pictures please… and whether the Good Duchess of Success brought a personal trainer, yoga guru and masseuse with her. Also, did Harry love the well-seasoned grilled chicken Ms. Doria made for him? And what about the delicious wine… Does Elton have a well-stocked cellar. Gossip is dying!!!!!!

    All the random commenter, belles and Republicans and general Beckies need a good overpriced Avocado toast sandwich. 🥑🥑🥑😁😁😊😂😂😘

    • Becks1 says:

      I drive a minivan not an SUV and my commute is 30 minutes. :-(

      But this becky agrees with the rest of your post lol.

    • Green Desert says:

      I’m dying laughing at this comment, hahahahahaha!!! :) Thank you, FredsMother.

  60. AG-UK says:

    Apparently Elton provided the jet and contributed to their charity. My real worry is 31st October not these 2.

    • Maria says:

      There are people on his IG attacking him for defending them, too. Jesus.

      • liriel says:

        People love to hate. Frankly Elton adds up another layer of celebrity! (I don’t care, they’re all spoiled rotten!)

  61. Well-Wisher says:

    The interesting take of this discussion is the emergence of the Sun and Times. They share the same owner who vowed decades ago to oberilate the Royal Family.
    The daily mail serves its usual meal of hate as it continues in the concept that ” perception is reality. ”
    In that light the Sussexes going what every other senior royal does is somewhat unacceptable. It seems most of the British tabloid press and the Times are fully committed to treating the Duchess and her son as undeserving but demand that they allow themselves to be sold as commodity.
    If they used commercial flight they will have access to Master Archie.
    They will not rest until they get the Sussexes to capulate so it is inherent that they stubbornly continue on the same path.
    Many of the articles about them including the supposed snub to Meghan by Prince William has been proven false up to the list of demands to the people of Windsor.
    Most discerning people including the French media have asserted the personal attacks on her are based in bigotry
    What we can do is disallow them to determine what the topic of the day will be and be critical of what they write.
    It is exhausting but the Sussexes have to stay strong.
    I salute their work ethic and their output and continue to support the need for them to grow as a family on a personal level and as working royals.
    They are enough.
    An aside – it is sick to attack a baby.

  62. DS9 says:

    If I never have to hear the word optics again….

  63. Ennie says:

    Each of those flights is very short, 2 hours maximum. Thank godness they don’t live in a big country, like Brazil, where my elderly aunt has to fly to Cape verde on a semi regular basis. mAybe she should swim there.
    I Just imagine all these newly middle age female environmentalists walking around the vast USA because they dont want to pollute. See you in Thanksgiving!

  64. MindyW1989 says:

    To me it has absolutely nothing to do with race (I am an Asian woman btw) and everything to do with celebrities (bc that is ultimately what M&H are) not practicing what they preach. Meghan and Harry preach an eco friendly organic lifestyle to us “peasants” while jetting off to visit their celebrity friends and spending ungodly sums on their wardrobes and homes. This is not a jealousy thing. I didn’t mind when Diana did it because she never pretended to be some kind of eco savior. Catherine and William do fly coach at times and you do see her at regular stores and grocery shopping. You generally don’t see them sucking up to celebrities or having a flashy wardrobe. They may be dull, but they fly under the radar and they appear to be very family oriented which is much more in line with my values than M&H.

    • intheknow says:

      William did try sucking up to celebs for his mental health campaign. They didn’t want to work with him. It’s bollocks that Will and Kate are flying under the radar. Also, that makes no sense..is it not still harmful to the environment when if they are flying via private jet but doing so under the radar? What’s your logic (or lack there-of here)? So you are OK with them being sucky as long as they suck under the radar…ok, got it.

      Here is the bottom line. And to be clear before someone calls me racist again…everyone is an asshole here. All of them. Every single one of them. From the preachy ones to the under the radar ones. They consume A LOT with their palaces, and many homes and and many travels vis private planes, and entourages and motorcades….all of them.

      While I dislike the cognitive dissonance of harrry and meghan on the environment issue, william and kate are no different. Again, telling people not have less kids while his wife was pregant with baby number 3 and kate is currently feeling broody.

    • celialarson12 says:

      Good for you Mindy . There is provincial and there is global and that is what makes the world interesting. Personally I prefer global and so does the media , the trolls, the fans, SM, and so do you it seems, seeing as you are posting her. I mean it is easy to fly under the radar when even your most ardent supporters consider you a yawn job, and morning , afternoon , night are obsessing over global.

    • Taryn says:

      The issue itself may not specifically be about race, but people undoubtedly have a hatred hard on for everything the sussexes do as a guise for their racism towards Meghan. All the members of the BRF have an exuberant lifestyle that is not compatible with being eco friendly anti-consumerism, yet they all preach about being climate conscious and pretend to know the struggles of the working class. The cambridges have flown private many times, Catherine herself has numerous bespoke and designer pieces in her wardrobe that cost an upwards of thousands of pounds. The problem isn’t that they don’t do it, they are just portraying that image of being a wholesome country family to the media and are smarter at branding themselves.

    • February Pisces says:

      When Kate ‘does her own shopping’ it’s very convenient that she is ‘seen’ doing this. She never ever wears a hat or sunglasses or anything and it’s probably her assistant that takes the camera phone pics and leaks them online to make her appear humble. Celebs do this all the time so I’m not having a go at Kate. She did the same thing when walking with Louis in the park a few months ago. The Cambridge’s are all about ‘appearances’, and they do use their kids and family is the main selling point of their image. Just how many celebrities have done the same thing, parading their children to appear as a happy family, only to split up a few months later.

    • kerwood says:

      This made me laugh a little bit. If Normal Bill and his wife travel coach or go to the corner store, rest assured that the media has been alerted. Katie didn’t marry Bill to mingle with the hoi polloi. That kind of thinking is the same kind that has the deplorables thinking 45 is ‘one of them’.

      Being a woman of colour doesn’t give you the power to decide what is and isn’t racist. I’m sure the man who compared Archie to a monkey had NOTHING but pure intentions.

  65. Citresse says:

    Considering the record of Diana’a last month, why would Harry want to go there?

    • MsIam says:

      Diana died in Paris over 20 years ago. So should Harry forgo the entire country of France? But I am sure the misery from the press, as well as the trolls on SM sounds real familiar to him.

  66. Bichon Lover says:

    I would take a helicopter to work every effing day if I had the money. Seriously. After giving up all of their privacy and dealing with nothing but negative and not even thinly-veiled racist media, I would embrace the luxe life. At this point, Meghan is vilified for breathing. The Other Couple (TOC) get a pass on everything. Let Meghan and Harry now earn the bad press they receive. Shoulder shrug.

  67. kerwood says:

    I come back and there are over 300 comments about a VACATION!

    Who knew so many people were concerned about the environment? I can’t help wondering why the earth is such bad shape when all these environmentalists are so quick to jump on a family of three for spending a couple of hours in a private jet.

    Poor Elton John. He must have thought he was dealing with sane people. He thought all he had to do was explain the situation and everything would be cleared up. Instead, he got a ton of shit dumped on HIS head. You can’t cure crazy with the truth.

  68. Ennie says:

    At this point they should travel elsewhere private. Just imagine a crazed person seeing them in person. No way they should risk it ever.

  69. Lowrider says:

    What Harry and Meghan did was not new to the the royals. Why is it an issue now?

  70. Molly says:

    Every single News source in Britain is covering this story….yet almost nothing on Andrew. There’s something wrong with the British People. What they are showing the world is a private jet is cause for national outrage…a pedo, not so much.

    • Sarabe says:

      @Molly, really? No one is covering Andrew? Are you sure about that? Perhaps you should reconsider your “news” sources? I don’t know what is wrong with American people honestly, they seem to be addicted to reading trash like the Daily Mail and giving it clicks and ad revenue.

  71. blunt talker says:

    I will say this again, a tabloid reporter said back when Archie was born that the Sussexes will have to pay a price for not letting the press in their private space before Archie was born and the way things were done after his birth. He said the press will be relentlessly and try to make Harry and Meghan regret all things involving Archie after his birth. as it relates to press coverage and photos. This is why they are trying to make trouble for them on a daily basis for not giving them access to Archie.

    • blue36 says:

      Do they think that directing more hate towards them will actually give them more access to their child? He’s not going to be the next king and isn’t even a titled prince. It’s one thing to criticize adults (the working royals), but they need to leave their kid out of this. He’s not going to be anywhere near the throne in the future and will eventually fade into the background like all the other royals. The less he’s exposed to the press the better, especially if he decides he doesn’t want to take part in royal duties and actually get a job and work for a living (something I hope that Harry and Meghan actually encourage him to do). As the Cambridge kids start growing up, they’ll be expected to do royal duties and represent the BRF, they are the future of the monarchy, not Archie and its best that the press back off from their child.

  72. blunt talker says:

    There is a more positive and pro Sussex youtube site run by a guy named Elliott called the Royal Reviewer. Positive people towards the Sussex should look this site up to see if they might enjoy it. That’s one I read to get positive comments. One more thing has anyone spoke harshly about Prince Charles teaching his sons about saving the environment. He has been doing this forever and riding on private planes. He doesn’t practice what he preaches. They need some smart tongued journalists in their corner. They could fire back when necessary as in this subject about flying private planes. Write an entire article showing who preaches about the environment and still travel on private planes. This could shut down a lot of noise.

  73. Rach says:

    The queen should force Andrew to face the consequences in the epstein case. Harry & Meghan seem to hide behind their celebrity friends to avoid the tax payers wrath. But using gas guzzling jets still cannot be justified since that seems to be one of their major environmental cause.

    Yes, both Andy & Sussexes can be faulted. Don’t have to justify Sussexes when they are Wrong! Cambridges don’t have to be dragged into every harry-meghan story!

    • MerryGirl says:

      But see, that’s the thing…neither the baby shower flight nor this flight caused the taxpayers a dime yet they scream about it so no, they didn’t avoid the taxpayers wrath. Elton John said he ensured no further carbon emissions were leaked into the environment, yet the UK nation is in an uproar about environmental issues like Charles, Edward, Andrew and yes the Cambridges don’t support environmental causes yet still fly private. And yes the Cambridges have to be used as a comparison when the blatant hypocricy of their stans, RRs and UK pearl clutchers refuse to scream about their private jet travel, multiple vacations, luxury homes, bespoke clothing, excess children (what about the environment?) as excessive but hit the roof when the Sussexxes live their lives as the other Royals do.

  74. Jane'sWastedTalent says:

    Have Harry and Meghan ever done this though?