Kim Kardashian covers the latest issue of Vogue Arabia. The photoshoot is not great, and the interview was conducted by… Kanye West. So, there you go. Celebrities are just going out of their way these days to avoid being profiled by real celebrity-journalists. They’d rather write their own cover stories or just ask a famous friend or spouse to do it. I wasn’t particularly expecting Vogue Arabia to come at Kim with the hard questions, but this just feels very… dumb. Some highlights from the cover story:
On her “reading the law” studies: “There is a misconception that I don’t actually have to study and that I’ve bought my way into getting a law degree – that’s absolutely not true… Being underestimated and over-delivering is my vibe.”
Her life lessons: “I try to be a good person and to take my mistakes and make them into a better experience — to learn and grow from them and move on.”
On her first proper date with West: “I was like, ‘Damn, why did I waste so much time and energy? Why didn’t I do this sooner?’”
On the idea that she’s a role model: “I never felt the responsibility of being a role model until I had kids.”
On living her life in public: “Even in my darkest of times I don’t regret putting myself out there for the world to see. People have shared with me over the years how much it has helped them to feel less alone when dealing with their own adversity. I love having a voice and I appreciate the platform that I have been given, even though I do wish I could have more privacy at times.”
On fame & money: “Money was always the goal but I was obsessed with fame, like, embarrassingly obsessed… I do agree that fame can be addictive.”
Kanye asked her to pick her favorite sister. “It changes, just like friends or relationships go in and out. I think this year has been a really strong Kim and Khloé year. I’m obviously so close with Kendall and Kylie too but I’ve spent so much more time on this earth with Kourtney and Khloé – 16 and 17 years longer with them. We have more history, have been through so much together, and we have more friends in common. Kourtney and I will always be really close, but this year, Khloé and I really bonded.”
Khloe is, like, really close to all of the sisters. I sometimes think that Khloe (and not Kris) is the glue holding them together. Khloe has a special bond with Kim, with Kourtney, with Kendall and Kylie… and especially Rob. I also get the feeling that everybody kind of hates Kourtney these days.
As for the rest of it… I will be pleased if Kim actually does follow through with everything and ends up passing the bar. I’ve never been on Team This Trick Is Lying About Law School. I think she studies. I think she cares about the law and she wants to do this so she won’t feel like a fraud when she’s talking to people about criminal justice reform. I realize I’m in the minority on that one, but whatever.
Covers courtesy of Vogue Arabia.
I like the first photo so much, so artistic and creative. I hope its the cover.
Word.
Fantastic cover.
Agreed, I like the shoot. They’ve made sure to obscure her plastic face as much as possible and to use her wonky body for the weird dimensions. Combined with them covering her up with dramatic dresses makes for a good photoshoot.
Her waist is a different size in each photo !
Yes. The cover is great. And it is because they hid her kurent face mask in a very artsy way. Great job
I can see Kim being educated about the law but actually passing the bar?
Her dad was a lawyer. It’s possible she might be smart, but never applied herself because she didn’t have to.
Her dad was a lawyer for a very short period of time. I don’t think Kim ever say her dad practice law other than the OJ case. He was more into business. When Kim was 18 she wasn’t famous and didn’t have much going on. Her dad was rich enough to send her to a good University. She decided to get married instead and become a stay at home mom and step mom at 19. Years later when she saw Paris in the spotlight I think she really got jealous and that drove her and her mother to find a way to get her famous and boy did they ever !
Studying law is not about being smart. It’s to do a lot of reading, and apply such reading to live situations.
My take is also that she’s smart enough but has never really attempted to do anything other than be famous. (Which, anyone would have to admit that she’s succeeded there…)
I believe she can do it if she really wants. And combining that with the inability of most males to see past her swervy rear end… she’ll probably go far, TBH.
Well she’s not buying a law DEGREE, she’s skipping the degree and doing an apprentice study method accepted in CA. But her connections, wealth and privilege is what allows her to study this way. Major law firms aren’t lining up to get kids who don’t want to go to law school and have their lawyers take hours out of their day to teach these kids the law. Sorry, not how it works.
Yes, I agree. She’ll study but never practice.
Exactly. She doesn’t have law degree so obviously she didn’t buy something she doesn’t have.
The CA bar is extremely difficult, I’ve heard.
Sorry not sorry, If I’m paying for a lawyer I want one who has a good education. Doesn’t have to be Ivy League, but I wouldn’t want some stunt lawyer like KK.
I’m in team working to pass the Bar
I think she is being tutored and is working to ensure she passes.
Her pathway is completely legitimate and legal.
I think she’s taking it very seriously
She said she was going to take the Baby Bar exam this summer. It’s end of August and not a peep from her. Either she failed and doesn’t want anyone to know or she didn’t take it. She has spent the summer vacationing and has been everywhere. I don’t know when she studies.
I asked the same thing a while ago and someone mentioned that the baby bar results don’t come out before November(?). The same person also mentioned that apparently on the day of the baby bar Kim was papped in another city.
I think being smart and becoming a lawyer are two different things. I am done watching this rodeo of a freak show. I don’t like how the mainstream media is crediting her for the early release of all this people. Not one credit goes to the team of 20 or so lawyers that have been working 5-10 years on criminal law cases. She is in for a reality check when it comes to taking the bar.
Being smart and intelligent is attainable by anyone who wants to become good at something. Taking the bar and passing takes more than selfies and being a good business woman. Critical thinking and logical games are not her forte. Being a fame whore and milking the media for whatever she has left of it is.
I do not see how anyone can become a lawyer and manage 3 kids, photoshoots, and snapchat as often as she does. She’s one heck of a cool mom, but no–just no Kim. If she does pass the bar exam, I would question the administrator. With connections like hers, it’s inevitable for her to NOT have special circumstances.
She is a gorgeous woman.
I think she used to be pretty, now all I see is lots and lots of plastic surgery.
Agreed. I just saw a collection of photos of her in USA Today.
The photos of her from 2009-10 were beautiful. She looked softer and was actually smiling!
Seeing the recent photos really shows how much she has re-engineered her looks.
Girl you are still embarrassingly obsessed with fame. And clearly also blinded by your obsession.
delusional to say the least. I hope she knows that she can’t take selfies during the bar exam. Logical reasoning and critical thinking make up 1/3 of the exam. Yeah, sure Jan.
Failing to attend & graduate from a 4 year college/university, skipping the LSATs, bypassing actual law school, bypassing the Socratic method, exams twice a year (there are no “quizzes” in law school, btw. There is one exam per class at semester end, long form blue book exams) skipping the strict bell-curve grading, law review, moot court …….most definitely means you BOUGHT YOUR LAW DEGREE.
She’s not even working towards a Law degree. What she’s doing is studying for the Bar exam. At the end of it all she still won’t have a Law degree even if she passes the Bar. Can someone please explain that to her?
But it would waive her requirements of obtaining a law degree. She will be eligible to practice law as an attorney. If she does pass, it’s because of her connections. Kim studying law is a joke, don’t you see how much they laugh at all of us for buying into this hype? She takes a few pictures of pretending to study (1minute to orchestrate). Is on snap chat, social media, photoshoots and traveling every other second. I question the people on here who believe or credit this woman. When I study for the LSAT, I was locked away and went off the grid for 6 months. This is the BAR, sure Jan.
Not according to the California state bar. The majority of people who have taken this route don’t have the money to do the typical undergrad + law school thing, you know that right? It’s a traditional method to read law and honestly, more states should allow it to give non-traditional students access to a legal career and give hard-working students an opportunity to avoid six figure debt.
I do believe that in Vermont you can work as a paralegal for a proscribed amount of time and are then eligible to sit for the bar. Maybe other states have similar arrangements.
These are really great points. Also, the bar is incredibly hard to pass in so many states as a traditional student to begin with, ie. with a completed law school education. Many don’t.
Vermont is 1 of the 4 states.
To practice law, you need to pass the bar though. She can’t practice without passing it so it doesn’t matter whether the non-existent law degree was bought or not.
You can buy a degree. I don’t think you can buy the bar. Don’t they even have to pass some character portion of the bar? I saw this on Suits…
It’s a long road between getting 100% on her first Torts “quiz” and becoming a licensed at. She still has to pass the “baby bar” after her first year of study, pass the California bar, which notoriously difficult, and then pass the character and fitness test, which is a deep background check for good moral character. You literally have to list all legal issues, including traffic tickets and any lawsuits, including divorces, since you became an adult. They also look at public profiles and any newsworthy incidents, such as sex tapes.
In addition to the character & fitness portion @paddyjr mentioned, most (all?) states also require applicants to pass the MPRE, a standardized exam on ethics/professional responsibility questions. It’s stuff about the official rules of the profession (things like being responsible for clients’ money, not breaching confidentiality, conflicts of interests, etc.) rather than a look at your own personal history, but it’s yet another step in the process that trips some people up and would be harder (in my opinion) to pass without having gone to law school.
Many UK lawyers – solicitors also don’t have a law degree for their undergrad degree. They simply undertake a law conversion course, study and pass. After that they interview to get a contract.
She isn’t buying her qualification. If she fails the exam, as many do, she is done.
Why do we have a problem with someone bettering themselves?
PREACH!
Team This Trick Is Lying About Law School is the name of my new band, DIBS !!!!
Love it.
So even if she were able to “buy herself a law degree” that wouldn’t make her a practicing attorney unless she also passed a state bar. So she is right that that is a big misconception. That said…I doubt she will be able to pass the California bar which is one of the most difficult in the country.
is she doing red face now?
Gotta give it to Kim, she actually had the best cover for a September issue this year BY FAR. Vogue Paris, US, UK, Italia got nothing on this one. Also Txema Yeste is an amazing photographer, he really brought the best in Kim.
As far as celebrity editorials go, I’ve always found Kim to be a much better model than most Hollywood actresses. I don’t know how much agency she has in this, but I think it probably has to do with photographers doing more interesting concepts for her. Hollywood actress editorials are always the same, flowy gown, looking pretty, a shot with a lot of wind and a derpy face… For all the “Vogue died when Kim K. got a cover” comments, I actually think her work for all of it’s international publications turns out better than most celebs.
That being said, I do prefer seeing actual models in fashion magazines.
I was shocked she admitted to being addicted fame.
Celebrity journalists kiss up to celebs a lot in profiles so I don’t think it matters she wasn’t interviewed by one.
To be honest, the admiration from fans mist be addicting… I don’t think someone can recover from that. Social media fuels their egos
Kanye interviewed her for this
You are not alone. I am also not here for the disparagement of a woman who is trying to earn a spot at the table, in a perfectly valid way, approved by the California State bar. The fact that she’s trying shows me that she’s NOT trying to buy anything. Because guess what? She absolutely has the money to buy all sorts of access and privilege without a law degree. She could give five million dollars to Donald Trump and probably be appointed attorney general if she wanted.
I am with you.
We spent years complaining about how she should improve herself, how she should use her plateform “to do something” , now she is trying to educate herself and want to do something and people complain. She can’t win.
Personally I don’t think she is stupid AT ALL, you can’t stay relevant for a decades having this kind of media power if you are an empty box.
👆🏽Co-Sign
I’ve never thought she was stupid, far from it. The problem with Kim is her rampant dishonesty.
“Personally I don’t think she is stupid AT ALL, you can’t stay relevant for a decades having this kind of media power if you are an empty box.”
Thank you! You cannot achieve that kind of phenomenal fame and amass that much wealth whilst being an idiot.
100% agree
What do they prefer she do? More navel gazing?
I agree with you 100%. I believe she’s much cleverer than she allows anyone to believe, and I also think her concerns about criminal justice reform are genuine. She’s done offensive and tone-deaf things in her career many times, but applying herself to learning the law isn’t one of them.
But she doesn’t just want access, she wants credibility. And that is what she’s trying to buy. I am not mad at her for wanting to take the bar exam. My issue is that even the way that she talks about it in this interview is fundamentally wrong. She says ‘buying her way into a law degree’. She isn’t getting a law degree. She is getting a chance to take the bar exam. That is not the same thing. I am a lawyer and I will tell you that law school is really hard. It takes a lot of hard work and commitment. And then when you finish law school, you still have to do what she is doing now – cram for the bar exam. Except most of us only get the 6 weeks after law school which is right after you just finished cramming for your final set of exams. I’m really proud of what I’ve accomplished. While I’m not mad at her for trying to get to the same place, I do get annoyed when people act like she isn’t taking an easier, more privileged route there.
Sheesh, are you for real?! When she says she isn’t buying a law degree I think that is in response to an accusation made against her. I.e. the person who does not understand the process Kim K is undergoing (reading the law) is the person or people who have said she is buying a law degree. Kim K herself quite clearly knows she is not getting a law degree, she told us that herself.
but when is she trying? Go ahead.. I’ll wait…
I mean…it’s fine? I just keep getting the sense she wants us to be more impressed than I am. I knew mothers who made it through law school AND the bar exam without private tutors, limitless cash, six nannies, and god knows how many housekeepers. It’s a nice way to spend her time, good for her, but no one should be throwing a parade. 🤷♀️
All I have to say ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
I’ve said it before, I will say it again….wake me up when she passes the bar exam.
I like Kim K. I think she knows exactly who she is (her money v fame answer was completely honest and showed more self reflection than most celebrities) and she is obviously smart (she turned a sex tape into a billion dollar enterprise instead of letting it destroy or sideline her). She has also made real impact on real lives in the area of criminal justice.
As someone who attended law school and has a law degree, I’ve always felt apprenticeships were way more practical than sitting through a class attempting to memorize everything for one exam.
I hope she passes the bar. I’m rooting for her. And like I said on the Kanye post yesterday, no matter what she does, haters are going to hate so I’m glad she’s moving forward.
You know, I’ll be nice for a change. I actually never minded seeing Kim in fashion magazines because I find her quite photogenic and most of the time her editorials turn out pretty good. I think this editorial is absolutely gorgeous. Txema Yeste is an incredible photographer. Kylie has some great print and ad work too.
I know it’s not a popular opinion, but I’ve always thought Kim was beautiful. I know her new beauty is bought and paid for, but imo she did end up with a gorgeous face. For the record, they make beautiful babies, too.
I believe she is buying her law degree, and I think she is doing it to go into politics. Kim, Kanye and Mama Kris are all mixed up with mob money. Their reality show was just a front for money laundering. Organized crime has notoriously used lawyers to hide ill-gotten gains and lobby for protection from prosecution. Kim is the next Trump wannabe–a Trojan horse within the Democratic Party. I am guessing a run for Senator coming up in the next few years.
Yeah, I went to law school (still paying for it 20 years later) and took the bar (not in CA). While my law school studies provided a foundation, what got me through the exam was 100% the Bar study materials. I took 3 months off and just obsessed over cramming that shit into my brain. Once I passed I just did a mental data dump. Practicing law is primarily that – practice. Its at least 5 years on the job before you stop feeling like a neophyte.
As much as I despise Kardashians in general I have to say – Kim is a good fit for Vogue Arabia. Armenia literally is not a part of a Europe (much closer to Middle East) and shares borders with Iran, so it’s not a white country (by American standards, since race is a social construct). Being Christian doesn’t make them less Arab in terms of heritage. The interview itself is just dumb.
Armenians are not Arabs; they’re a Western Asian and Persian people . Iranians are a Persian people (the majority), not Arab. Only a fraction of Iranians speak Arabic as their 1st language. And Middle Eastern peoples, which are different linguistically and ethnically from Turkic and Western Asian peoples, are Caucasians. So they are all “white”. Caucasian doesn’t mean only pale northern west European despite what people seem to think.
Cosigning all this as someone who is Middle Eastern. Want to cause trouble? Tell someone from the Middle East we’re not white. I guarantee you you will be hounded out of the country. With regards to Armenia: it’s is also literally in the Caucasus mountains. And, yep, if anyone wants to cause more trouble, call an Armenian an Arab. There’s a very long and very storied history there why Armenians will find that to be one of the most offensive things you can say to them.
Yeah but by that yardstick, South Asians (supposedly of Aryan stock) are “white” too.
“White” in America has less to do with colour (see “Hispanic”) or supposed Caucasian origin (“South Asians”) and more to do with culture. Bottom line, it’s all BS and the line keeps moving depending on who’s in power…Meanwhile,the Arab/ME world (with its own rampant colourism) would do well to examine why it so badly wants to be “white.”
Sorry, IMO not a real lawyer until you’ve gone to law school and passed the bar. The CA bar exam isn’t exactly a walk in the park from what I’ve heard.
She’s lucky she has millions, because in the real world no firm would hire her. She only got those millions and is famous because of a reality show that was born out of a sex tape, and all the injections in her face. She has no real world qualifications.
Reading this made me realize that none of Kris’s 5 children graduated from college. I mean, it’s a matter of choice, but if ALL 5 kids decided to bypass higher education that speaks volumes about their values
Actually, Kourtney and Rob are college grads. F me for knowing this.
Do any of you here praising Kim actually watch the show?
Because if you did, you would know that it is clearly evident that she is not book smart. Not by a long long long shot. Not talking trash, not slamming her, stating a clear and obvious fact.
I went to law school, and left, but Ive now worked as a paralegal for over ten years. I used to watch the show religiously, and she has never once demonstrated the intellectual capability to apply legal concepts to facts. That’s not a matter of simply improving yourself via studying. I graduated manga cum laude from my university, and I left law school because I found it was too much work to get the grades required for preferable job placement.
So when this person who has a very long career of media manipulation is sitting here claiming these things, forgive me if I find them far fetched. She’s not some late in life legal prodigy. She’s simply selling an image. Again.
“But like criminal law is so easy I can do it in my sleep !” Kim said that. She is delusional if she thinks she doesn’t have it easier because of her fame and money. That law office in San Fran is probably catering to HER needs. They wouldn’t do that for anyone else. I bet she gets “hours” or “credits” for going to visit inmates in prison and taking a camera crew with her.
Apparently she doesn’t even go to the law office to do apprentice work. They fly to her and they help her study. The whole thing is BS.
@Jan: this!!! And this is what annoys me when people are saying that she’s doing the apprentice route which is perfectly legit in CA. She’s not, she’s not putting the hours, she’s not doing the work and gaining the experience required for this path. It’s meant for people who are working in the legal field to use their work experience and build from it in order to pass the bar. An apprenticeship is you being your boss’ b**ch and doing the work they tell you to do, not having them flown in to help you study in the comfort of your house between two photoshoots. Having tutors helping you is fine, but it’s not an apprenticeship
Thank you!
I despair of anyone that thinks watching a reality show gives a true account of the characters being portrayed. I mean you know that parts of the show are actually scripted, scenes are acted out, they do retakes and some of the shots don’t even take place in their real houses right? It is entertainment not a documentary!
This isn’t about “bettering” herself. This is about the next stage of fame. She probably pictures herself as a lawyer in a TV show, waltzing around the courtroom in 6-inch heels, wearing a designer suit, hair professionally coiffed and makeup perfectly applied.
As others have pointed out, even if she completes her law reading and passes the bar exam, she won’t have a law degree. It’s concerning that she doesn’t seem to realize that distinction. That said, I’ve passed two states’ bar exams and I think there’s a decent chance that someone could pass a bar without going to law school – everyone (myself included) I knew spent the ~8 weeks after graduation taking the BarBri course to prepare for the exam, and while I’m sure the three years of law school made it easier, I think a prep course (or in KK’s case, the law reader program) could whip you into shape if you were reasonably well-educated to begin with gave it enough (which is a lot) effort. But while I think it could be enough to pass the exam, I don’t feel it would prepare anyone to actually practice law.
Good on her… my lawyer friends who went to law school always said law school is only to prepare you for the bar exam… and you don’t need the degree to be a lawyer… there’s more than one way to skin a cat – get over it everyone
Good on her for promoting education after years of promoting pills and stuff on her instagram. Let’s make education cool again ?