There’s an old photo of Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, Donald Trump and Melania which I’ve been using in a lot of stories about Jeffrey Epstein (see below). Other outlets have been using the same photo too – it’s an easy-to-find archival photo from Mar-a-Lago in 2000. But I guess people are just now looking through all of the other photos from that event, which is how they came to find that Prince Andrew was also at that same Mar-a-Lago party, and he posed with Donald Trump and Melania too. As it turns out, he was brought to that February 2000 event BY Epstein and Maxwell. I can’t wait to hear his “friends” explain that one! Anyway, the Duke of York has ended his Spanish golf holiday and has returned back to England for “crisis talks.”
Prince Andrew has flown home from a holiday in Spain on a private jet to hold crisis talks with royal officials over his friendship with the late paedophile Jeffrey Epstein. The Duke of York had been on a two-week golfing retreat in Sotogrande with his former wife Sarah Ferguson as the long-running ‘sex slave’ scandal intensified. Andrew, 59, returned to Britain on Wednesday before photographs emerged of him partying with the billionaire financier and President Donald Trump in 2000. The pictures showed the pair partying with Ghislaine Maxwell, who has been accused of helping Epstein procure underage girls for sex, and Melania Trump.
They were taken in February 2000 at a celebrity tennis tournament at Mr Trump’s Palm Beach club Mar-a-Lago in Florida, which saw Epstein bring Andrew as a guest. Virginia Roberts, who was then a young towel girl, has claimed that a few months later Maxwell recruited her to become a sex slave for Epstein and his friends.
A royal source told The Sun of Andrew’s return this week: ‘Andrew and Fergie flew back together on Wednesday. He knows he has to come back and face the music. The optics were not a good look, with so many stories about the Epstein accusers while he was on a sunny golf course in Spain. He’s having a series of talks with advisers this week about how to salvage his reputation going forward. Fergie remains entirely committed to him.’
Epstein’s visits to Mar-a-Lago in the 1990s and early 2000s are well documented, but at some point he and Mr Trump fell out and he was banned from the resort. The President said last month: ‘Yes, he and I did have a falling out a long time ago. The reason doesn’t make any difference, frankly. But I haven’t spoken to him in probably 15 years or more. I wasn’t a big fan of Jeffrey Epstein, that I can tell you.’
Trump said that about the “falling out” several weeks ago, and there’s been lowkey speculation about whether Trump is telling the truth about that, and what the reason for the falling out could be. I saw someone speculate that Epstein tried to hit on Ivanka, but I think it’s far more likely that Trump was told that Maxwell and Epstein were using Mar-a-Lago as a hunting ground. Who knows though. As for Andrew’s presence at Mar-a-Lago as a special guest of Epstein… ugh. And yes, of course he needed to end his golf holiday. Those “crisis talks” will be very interesting, right? “Sir, should we just continue to smear the Duchess of Sussex whenever a bad story comes out about how you raped teenagers?” “Yes, let’s try that.”
Photos courtesy of Getty.
Randy Andy will be the downfall of the monarchy.
As is currently is yes and I am beginning to feel that is might just cause TQ to abdicate with Charles taking over to save the institution. If that happens Randy Andy and his line will be cut from the succession, royal purse and banished from court (meaning that he won’t be at official family events).
Surely they have to understand that this is NOT going away and its getting worse everyday for them – its obvs that the last statement from Andrew came directly from him and not via the Palace ‘advisors’. It made things worse, it created more questions than it answered esp as everyone pretty much laughed at it. He’s digging a hole from himself and the RF – if they want to survive they will have to make him take responsibility for what he’s done. He’s guilty and we all know it.
Even if he isn’t guilty (which he is), I don’t see how, in a social media world, he can overcome hanging out with a convicted sex trafficker and child rapist.
@Digital Unicorn – I really hope you’re right. At this point I think something big has to happen.
I kind of think this is a good idea, and Charles would be pretty good at this. But I don’t think Andrew will be cut from the line of succession, no need for that precedent he’s so far down the line now. What I think will happen is the only working royals will be the reigning monarch and his children. So Andrew and all the others will be off the taxpayer payroll. The Sussexes will be cutoff when William becomes king, etc. This makes the monarchy cheaper and smaller, and less likely to have the people of UK revolt. The royals who are really working now like Anne and Edward will just get cushy ceremonial jobs at some charity or retire plus they will be given some of their mother’s wealth. Andrew will probably get the same thing too, just more quietly unless he goes to jail, which I doubt but you never know.
The Royals will argue that the younger children never really had a chance to develop their own job profile as they “had to” spend their young adult years in support of the monarchy. Harry had to do Royal Duties since he left school. Basically his army stint was some kind of royal duties. Harry won’t be cut off before William’s children have finished their education but by then Harry will likely be around 45-50. They will argue that that would be too late to develop a new career. So they will support Harry. They will continue to support the children of any monarch but perhaps they will manage to cut off the grandchildren?
Can you imagine the pressure on Eugenie to get pregnant right now?
It really could be, unless he’s “exiled” w/prejudice. Oh, dear!! It’d be soooo horrid, “roughing it” in a £15M Swiss Chalet (wonder where he got the money for that with his £450K/yr “salary” that he was always whingeing was too small. I seem to remember a shady deal where he was paid almost £4MILLION over asking for Sunninghill, isn’t that right?)
TBH, I’d pay good money to see TQ chasing him around the family sitting room, trying to smack him with that empty purse she’s always carrying around! 😂😂😂
Sadly the Queen seems to have lost her spine this summer, both when it comes to Andrew and the ego-driven politicians in Westminster. It’s like she’s lost control throughout, both in her family and the politicians. Maybe she’s just getting too old.
I too suspect that age is catching up with he rand that she isn’t longer fully completely capable. Sadly. But she really should consider to go now. She might want to hang on a bit longer because she might want to “save” her favorite son Andrew. She probably knows that Charles would throw his brother under the bus as soon as he becomes king.
Y’all are dreaming in technicolour. Nothing touches the upper of the upper now.
One if the main young victims ghislaine/Jeffrey victims was recruited From and worked worked at Mara largo’s locker room. Let that sink in. Pizza gate is actually maralagoGate.
No, no, no, completely incorrect, the downfall of the monarchy will be private planes, pedicures and pigment not pedophilia. At least according to certain media.
I hope you are right that he falls. What would that look like. Andrew’s mother, QE2, is protecting him. Behold, the smile of someone who knows they are untouchable.
Whoa – he flew home on a private jet? Isn’t that the real story here?
I thought so, too.
Nope… that’s only relevant if it were the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
IKR?!
Yes but Andrew doesn’t GAF about the environment and would probably advocate for bigger planes for his private use. Harry and Meghan got dinged because of their environmental stance and the hypocrisy of them using private jets.
the problem with that belief is that Meghan was criticized for flying private to her baby shower. No talks about environmentalism then. The $300,000 baby shower total included about $200,000 for the flight on the Clooney’s jet. $75,000 was for the venue (list price–not sure that they paid it, or even if the private flight cost that either). The actual shower was cookie decorating and flower arrangement. So even “lavish baby shower” was b.s.
I should have added that Meghan also got dinged because she’s the scapegoat and target of the racist, misogynist press. Harry and Meghan both seem to be taking on the scapegoating mantle and it’s a case study in how bullying gains momentum with the masses. It’s scary really.
It’s fine to criticize famous people who encourage conservation, but then go on a private planes, but you don’t need to blast them with it for days. Although, not sure if so many people trying to defend them on this isn’t part of the reason the coverage was so large.
#Abolishthemonarchy! and let’s get some real justice for Andy’s victims while we are at it.
Cheers Originallala, I agree wholeheartedly!
Yup, the thought of somehow being part in subsidizing pedo Andy’s lifestyle ( and that free loading non working family)is something British people should be up in arms about.
I have been following a few hashtags on twitter like #abolishthemonarchy #stopthecoup and I wonder if the royals are going to change their public appearances going forward. There are quite a few protests popping up and I bet there might be a few protesters at a photo op (maybe/hopefully?).
There is a lot of anger over Johnson proroguing parliament and TQ’s backing of what we see as an assault on our democracy. With this, on top of Randy Andy the pedo and the private jet stories its not looking good for the Monarchy. Sadly I don’t think they will do anything proactively to combat it, TQ sticks her head in the sand and will only deal with it if she is made to (see Tony Blair and Diana’s death). They can’t rely on the Cambridge’s to repair that image as those 2 are just too lazy to put the effort in. The Sussex’s upcoming tour needs to be a success, however the RF will probably shoot themselves in the foot as Andrew and the Cambridge’s will try and sabotage it to get some good PR for themselves to distract from their own issues.
@Digital Unicorn – ^^^If this happens then that pretty much confirms how tone deaf the RF are. How could anyone seek to gain ‘good publicity’ for Andrew at a time like this ?
Andrew just needs to step aside now and give up his HRH and other privileges. Until he can absolve himself in the eyes of the public, thereby showing he is not ‘above the law’, he has no right to the public purse.
Digital Unicorn…thanks for my laugh of the day! “They can’t rely on the Cambridge’s to repair that image.” Lol
Can you really repair your image when there is a preponderance of proof you hung out with a pedo and had sex with children?
I was referring to the image of the RF not Andrew.
Megan,
That bit about him thinking that he can save his reputation just made me sick. He’s implicated in an international scandal about the sexual abuse of minors – his reputation is completely soiled. Sadly, I think he will escape criminal prosecution but I hope this scandal will follow him till the end of his days and that he’ll be remembered with infamy in the history of the British monarchy.
@DU Yes, the BRF seems to be mistaking a legitimacy problem for a PR problem. And I don’t see Johnson sending them the clue bus,
When have the Cams EVER announced they were going to be taking the kids to school BEFORE the first day of school? Yet yesterday (or was it the day before) it was put out they they BOTH will be taking George and Char to school AND THERE WILL BE RELEASED PICS!. THE HELL WITH PRIVACY!!
“LOOKEEE HERE: CAM KIDS…LOOK HERE, NOT AT PEDO!!!!” It’s like a carnival barker trying to draw attention to one of the other tents, away from the main event.
This alone must be causing Wills to grind his teeth into nubs in anger, being forced to go along with the “Party Line” to save the family because of Pedo and Freeloader.
Isn’t that the exact same thing they did with George tough? The only reason why Kate wasn’t there is because she was sick during her pregnancy with Louis. And there were definitely at least one picture of William and George that was released afterwards.
Anyway, I don’t think William would agree to use his kids to save his uncle’s reputation. Like his reputation (and his marriage reputation)? Sure, but nobody else’s.
Plus, Andy and Will don’t seem particularly close and if the rumors are true and Andy really did invite Epstein to Will’s 18th birthday party, he might be more than a little irritating at the thought of a sex trafficker leering at his then teenage female friends.
I came here to say exactly the same thing! It’s so obvious what they’re trying to pull!!
@Sarah that wasn’t just william’s 18th birthday party – the family held a joint birthday party for a number of family members who had milestone birthdays that year, including margaret (70), anne (50), and andrew himself (who turned 40).
If it means saving the monarchy so he can be king, Willliam will use his children, no doubt about it. His sibling, his in-laws and even his wife would be thrown to the wolves if it stands between him and becoming King. William wants the masses at his beck and call.
It’s Charlotte’s first day. They did a similar thing with George for his (and Kate skipped it because she was pregnant and ill). Her first day of school was always going to be noteworthy and a photo op.
WOW you do realize the kids are really young and it’s not like they’ve had 10 years of first day of schools. There was a big announcement about George’s very first day of regular school or what us American’s call elementary school. Kate was supposed to come but sick with Louis, you realize Louis is a little over a year old so that was only 2 years ago. Charlotte going to her first day of school is a big deal for any parent. Sorry a lot of people want to see that picture, just cause you guys hate them doesn’t mean everyone does.
People speculated about the first day pic for George but they didn’t make so many official announcements about it until the day of, when it was confirmed that Kate couldn’t go. The difference here is that KP announced this officially a week ahead of time. Someone probably told KP to offer up a bit of distraction on this.
My point is not going, of course they would/do go! MY point is all of the information is being released PRIOR to the event, not the same day, with an embargo until they deem it ok. ALL of this is pure distraction PR. ALL of it.
Two things:
1. Andy has massively aged in 19 years. Like badly.
2. Epstein and Maxwell definitely used MAL as a hunting ground. But any “falling out” between Epstein and Trump is either not true or because Epstein tried to recruit Ivanka. No way Trump cared if Epstein used MAL for hunting. He probably approved it.
And didn’t Trump only start talking this way about Epstein after he died? I thought he was all, “he’s a good guy” or radio silent before.
Trump is WAY too possessive about Daughter-Wife to allow Epstein anywhere NEAR her, esp. if Dump-a-Lardo wasn’t there with his own fat, possessive arm around her.
It still niggles in my mind that Melania was a “model’ (and a nude one at that, doing lesbian shots) before she “met” Dump. And Epstein and Dump owned a “modeling agency”, bringing in Eastern European girls. I would bet everything I have that this “agency” was a front to traffic girls in and around to their pals.
That is exactly what I am thinking. Melania is looking more and more like a trafficking victim to me with this “modeling” as a front. That and just paying preteen girls in poor/underprivileged neighborhoods to go to your house for “massages” and go to parties.
@(TheOG)@Jan90067 & @ VirgiliaCoriolanus – absolutely brilliant, and it makes so much sense. You’re connecting the dots I couldn’t see. AMAZING.
Melania modeled for years before meeting Trump. Many women at the time who modeled did nude shoots. Perhaps look at Carla Bruni if you don’t believe.
Her family was solidly middle class. She wasn’t “trafficked” and it truly diminishes the lives of girls and women who are to say things like that.
People don’t seem to understand that all of eastern Europe isn’t the way they’ve seen in movies. Also hugely dismissive and close-minded.
@AnnaKarennina – I don’t think she has much of a resume. Pretty sure “model” was always a euphemism for escort.
And that’s not because she’s Eastern European, a part of the world from which I descended. It’s because she really wasn’t a model.
Keep in mind she was also reported to have studied/had a degree in architecture, which was later said to be a false claim. Who knows what to believe of her background.
The fallout related to a real estate purchase.
It was the property Trump ended up flipping years later to a Russian oligarch.
This story is easy to find. The Post ran it.
Exactly. It had nothing to do with Trump wanting to disassociate himself from Epstein. It was over money, not morality.
@VirgiliaCoriolanus Melania’s family was reasonably well off in Slovenia, and she moved here at 26. She is hardly a trafficking victim. She chose this life.
yes please cut it with the “melania is a victim” narrative!
I wonder what Charles is thinking these days and what his plans are. I’m sure this is further fodder for streamlining the BRF. Do away with all of them and let them eat cake!!!
He and Camilla are actually the only ones who don’t look like a complete pointless joke at this point. And perhaps Sophie Countess of Wessex too. William & Kate’s counter-stunt to the private jet debacle backfired miserably. Now they’re using their kids to win favour again, after all the years of nagging for their privacy. The whole family is a mess.
Read the whole story at The Daily Fail. The Fail is moderating comments (unlike Meghan stories where comment posting is a free-for-all) so there are not many comments let alone the usual pithy & juicy comments. Why is the tabloid media protecting this guy?
My thoughts exactly!!
Yes!! Was just coming on to comment about the daily fail. Comments are moderated on all articles regarding Andrew. It’s ridiculous.
I think the Fail are protecting themselves.
There was a sex harassment case in the Fail once where I knew the perpetrator (husband of an old friend who was devastated). I commented, but it was clear I knew too much for the average commented and they moderated my comment and I got a message in my mailbox.
It’s comments like that the Fail have to guard against, material facts and / or allegations ‘getting out’ and putting them into hot water.
They consider Meghan stories low hanging fruit and hate her so don’t moderate them. That is how you know that they’re usually lying in their write ups about Meghan.
libel laws. there is only a free for all when you aren’t at risk of being sued.
Not defending the Mail in any way but they always close or moderate comments on articles about criminal activity, for legal reasons.
Save his reputation – WHAT reputation?
Its drip drip drip from the tabloids and the stupid fool is taking the bait – he will get what is coming to him. Every time he opens his fat gob the more he incriminates himself.
Virginia’s lawyers are coming for him and the press are making sure we know that Mummy and her ‘grey men’ are trying to cover things up for the favourite pedo rapist son.
Prince Andrew is ‘having a series of talks with advisers this week about how to salvage his reputation going forward”. LOL. Good luck with that. His reputation hasn’t been that good for years but with this, he has found a way to make it worse.
I agree. I find it concerning that he thinks his reputation can be salvaged at this point. Goes to show how out of touch he & his advisors are.
The more they try to protect him (is the photo fake, etc), the WORSE it gets.
He can never appear on that balcony again, for instance. He’s toxic now.
There’s been reporting that Trump and Epstein fell out over a real estate deal in FL . Epstein was set to purchase a large property and thought he could flip it for a profit. Epstein asked Trump’s opinion about the property, thinking Trump didn’t have the means to finance it. But Trump swooped in with a bigger offer and swiped it from Epstein.
In other words, their falling out has nothing to do with any principled opposition Trump might have had about Epstein recruiting minors at his resort.
Right, I don’t think T would have cared a whit about the sex ring. He prob benefitted from it. So it would likely have been something else like this, something that would hit one of the few things T actually cares about — money. I don’t think he would even care about someone hitting on his daughter, he’d prob take it as an indication of his own greatness in producing a hot daughter. How did we get here…so depressing to realize who the men in power are and have been for so long…
Maybe Trump, unlike Andrew, knew to cut ties with Epstein when the latter became radioactive, while Andrew was out and about with Epstein after incarceration.
Horrible thought – I wonder if those pictures of Epstein and Andrew strolling Central Park as well as Andrew attending parties were “paid appearances.” Cause that sure seems right up the York alley.
Is it just me or do others also see Ivanka as being really just “not that hot”?
There is also a story that Epstein tried to recruit senior MAL staff from under Trump.
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Yeah, I came here to say that too. “I think it’s far more likely that Trump was told that Maxwell and Epstein were using Mar-a-Lago as a hunting ground.” Uh…nothing about this president suggest to me that he would care about kids being hunted on his property and lured into slavery. Unless it was bad for his own optics.
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Mr. Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” (from the NY Times)
So obviously somewhat of a fan then, eh.
Hope Andrew is feeling every bit the fear that the trafficked children felt as they were used and abused for the amusement of the rich and depraved.
In the first photo – never seen Melania’s eyes wide open. Andrew looks … startled?
There’s a rumor that is most likely untrue, but interesting nevertheless. The speculation is that Andrew’s problems were used to grease the Queen’s quick (and controversial) decision on the prorogation of Parliament. It’s gets a little political and outside the scope of this blog.
But, isn’t it interesting that Andrew is the person who participated in Epstein’s low-rent Eyes Wide Shut parties who is relentlessly talked about. What about everyone else?
And, now, Andrew needs to come back from a vacation where he was acting above it all and waiting for it to blow over. Bad optics…really?…not bad behavior? From sex with minors to a cheeky golf holiday, just a bad look. We must divert attention elsewhere to salvage the Duke’s reputation. Because — it’s salvageable. Really?
Some very anti Harry/Meghan sites have been quiet the last few days. I assume the trolls are simply awaiting their marching orders and talking points.
Anti Meghan and Harry stories are on hiatus until after the SA tour.
The press want access so they have to behave for a few weeks, cue the recent favourable articles towards her in the Fail i.e. $15 pub lunch, touching Instagram write ups etc.
It’s back to usual b*tching about them after the tour and a few pics of Archie thrown into the deal.
honestly andrew often looks startled, beatrice got her big eyes that have that same deer-in-headlights look from him, but his appearance has never been criticized like hers has for the exact same feature.
Yes, people are often fooled by the red hair but Beatrice is a dead ringer for Andrew. It’s especially clear when you see him in profile.
Beatrice is a dead ringer for the young queen Victoria, and Andy is a dead ringer for the old one in the face.
@Chaine, went to Getty Images and did some research. You are so correct!!!!!
Andrew & Beatrice are dead ringers for Queen Victoria. I always thought Beatrice looked like her father with her mother’s coloring and Eugenie looked like her mother with her father’s coloring.
Yes, Melania looks strung out on drugs in that top picture. Her eyes don’t look right. Her pupils are huge. Cocaine dilates the pupils.
Wow, it must be serious to interrupt his golf vacation (“vacation” from what? What’s his job, again?)
Being mummy’s favorite is his job.
For some people that is a full time job.
Kissing mummy’s ass.
I’m still going with my gut and it tells me Andrew isn’t panicking. He went on a nice vacation for two plus weeks and finally came back to London. He knows his mom and her advisors will protect him. So he’s just going about his life as usual. It’s the Queens advisors who are putting out the stories of “Andrew freaking out” as they know the optics look really bad.
Andrew is among the UK’s “1%”-ers and people like that are always protected at least from the criminal and financial fallout of their “activities”. But his reputation will never recover IMO – especially after Charles becomes king.
It’s funny because I think that Andrew and his family (Sarah Ferguson + daughters) have always been D list royals with a few years where they bounced upward. But D list overall.
ITA. I don’t think he’s panicking either. He knows mommy will protect him and also I doubt he actually cares or sees the nig deal/crime. I really don’t think he gives two shits. It’s everyone else around him who see the problem and I just don’t think they are getting much to work with.
Exactly. What;s going to happen to him? Nothing.
He’s probably more annoyed that this is ruining his holiday.
@Jenns, I hate to this, but I think you are absolutely correct. He is probably annoyed this interrupted his vacation and is more than likely wondering why it hasn’t gone away yet.
Thank you, Whatabout. My sentiments exactly. What are they going to do to his mummy and her assistants? The main culprit has gone to the great beyond. That’s just pr, he’s good.
I don’t think he came home for a crisis talk. I think he came home for mummy’s protection. And if he’s smart, he won’t be travelling to any country that has an extradition treaty with the USA for a long time.
The Royal family will deny this until the cows come home, and eventually the people will forget, after enough cute pictures of royal babies and fashionable women.
He may be beginning to panic, but that isn’t why he returned now. He attended the Dartmouth Regatta today at the Dartmouth Yacht Club, as patron of the Club.
edit: Didn’t read far enough to see someone had already posted this.
It’s becoming more and more obvious with each passing day that the tabloids have the goods on Pedo Prince and they are not letting him get away with this. Only Andy and his dear mummy the Queen can’t see it. Even the Fail has been up his a** all week – of course, not as much as Meghan’s but as we all know, taking a private jet or several is way worse than violating teenagers. If BoJo’s power grab didn’t knock Andy of the news, then nothing will – not even an engagement or pregnancy announcement.
Plus, someone talked on another thread of the hacking scandal of 2005. No reason to believe that Andy was not hacked at the time like other members of the RF. Of course, the tabloids can’t use illegally obtained information to nail Andy but the past hacking means they know where to look and what to look for. It’s not a coincidence than old pictures like this one with Dump and Malaria and the video of Andy peeking out of Epstein’s mansion are suddenly published, a decade after they were taken/shot. Andy is in deeeeeeep trouble.
Mazher Mahmood (the News of the World’s notorious Fake Sheikh) was jailed for 15 months for conspiring to pervert the course of justice in 2016. He’s out now.
Mahmood was the first journalist to reveal the links between Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein. It was a Mazher investigation that resulted in that picture of Andrew and Epstein walking together in Central Park. And it’s thought that Mazher’s team were behind the video published by the Mail On Sunday of Prince Andrew in 2010 waving off a young woman leaving Epstein’s mansion.
The Mail on Sunday is declining to reveal the source for this video but Mahmood is known to have kept meticulous files of all the covert videos and audio recordings from the Fake Sheikh’s investigations over the past 25 years. It’ll be interesting to see which other Mazher scoops come back over the next few months if he really is on the prowl again…
From yesterdays Popbitch mail out, so you are on the money @Sarah
Mahmood particularly had it in for Andrew and now we know why – he knew far more than we ever gave him credit for!
Very interesting @Zapp Brannigan.
I will have to read up on this Mahmood. I really hope he has the goods and that Andy has to answer for his heinous actions.
Is it correct to say that the Daily Mail and The Mail on Sunday are two different tabloids?
Well, let’s see. Apples to apples, he took private jet to balmoral. Then takes private jet out of balmoral. Fertile takes private jet out of balmoral. Ferries and Prince Pedy take private jet to Spain. They then catch private jet out of Spain. So that’s six private jets in two weeks. Hypocrisy then can be argued that it’s more than H&M in the same amount of time. Is it a row that needs to be shoved in our faces? Especially for a couple who are out of date, out to lunch and out of sync with reality. NOW, add in all his grossness, his lies, his entitlement and the way he shames his RF and now his daughter, who is fighting slavery in a non profit and a new podcast …. wow. I hope they are just reeling him in with a carrot of some kind. The whole thing makes me sick. Add in the reality that this family rides on the back of British taxpayers, why do we need them? We don’t. Harry and Meghan will do fine with his trust from Diana.
Fertile is supposed to be Fergie. Damn spell check
@KK, I agree with you, Beatrice and Eugenie do not deserve any of this.
The late Diana, Princess of Wales made some prophetic statements during her short life. Some were spot on while others were way off. During the Panorama interview, one of her statements pertained to Charles, and whether he’d be King. She said something to the effect of everyone, a question in everyone’s mind. I thought it off at the time. It turned out, people are indeed wondering now.
Abolish the Monarchy
Diana on Panorama was just being Diana, vindictive.
Prince Charles would’ve to be senile, before willian can be king before him (if there is still a Monarchy).
InTouch, a very low rent USA fan fiction tabloid, published a story in the 19 August 2019 issue stating that QEII had already decided to make Bill Cambridge King so Cathy could be Queen. It also stated that Normal Bill had to break the news to Chucky. I read this yesterday while getting a pedicure and laughed so hard I cried. The technician was really concerned he was hurting my toes.
@BayTampaBay – LOVE your story!! 🙂
Charles will be King but the question is how long for.
Digital Unicorn, Charles will likely be King but will he get to his Coronation???
The future First Lady looks high on something in those pictures…
Money.
LOL
You’d have to be high to bang Drumpf…
Bingo!
All the perps in one shot.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7410813/Pictured-Prince-Andrew-partying-Jeffrey-Epstein-Donald-Trump.html
Charles and William wouldn’t do anything horrible as king and I don’t really mind them. Especially Charles, it’s nice how he’s into bees and whatever else he does for the environment. But we don’t need them as kings. It’s become too obvious that there’s no point and worse there’s something off about having this monarchy.
I have to laugh at the inclusion of what Fergies doing and that she remains committed to him. Like do they honestly think anyone gives a damn about Fergie and that she makes him look better. If shes included because his advisors think it makes him look better, he needs new advisors.
also, fergie remains committed to andrew, but notice there’s absolutely nothing about andrew being committed to fergie and never is in these stories, it’s all fergie’s POV
Honestly I think Fergie may be a source for these journalists about Andrew’s so-called innocence, she’s never been able to keep her mouth shut for long. Plus part of the whitewashing whenever Andrew (or Fergie) does something gross or scandalous is to quickly stress what a happy, happy! family the Yorks are, the happiest divorced couple in the world, look at our wonderful daughters the princesses, blah blah blah.
Remember when Fergie had the scandal caught on tape offering access to Andrew for cash around 2011, she quickly pivoted to a reality show (with Oprah) called Finding Sarah where she detailed her sad upbringing and had her daughters filmed crying about how hard it was that the press was mean to their mom. I’m sure she’s itching to get in front of cameras about all this and how Andrew is the most wonderfullest man!
Andrew aside, I’m sure Fergie and the daughters are eager to get back to their regularly scheduled activities and this is really cramping their style. Podcasts to launch, wedding plans to announce….
I cannot believe that Fergie went whining to Oprah and Oprah actually listed to all her crap:
1. Fergie did not have a difficult childhood. She was very very privileged and her family was somewhat moderately wealthy. Fergie is a descendant of the 6th Duke of Buccleuch. Paying the phone bill and light bill was never a worry in her childhood
2. Fergie’s father was just as tacky as Andrew and she always took up for her father.
3. Fergie was a favorite of QEII and threw it all away.
If anyone deserves recognition it is the York Princess for not being 100% screwed up in the head due to the parents who raised them.
Fergie did have a difficult childhood with regard to her mother- she left her father then much later met a very grisly demise.
And no amount of money can address sadness from intense childhood trauma. The perception of time is very different for children.
Having divorced parents doesn’t constitute a terrible childhood, and Fergie was 40 when her mother died.
She is a grifter from way back. I read somewhere that she has”a handful of gimme and a pocket full of much obliged”. Always out for the freebies.
Rumor is that Fergie knows about Andrew lifestyle and “it is understood” that if the BRF doesn’t take care of her, she’ll blab. So all the Fergie shaming – not inviting wedding type stuff – is window dressing.
She’ll be gone once they abolish the monarchy. Another money hungry mouth to feed.
I don’t know how any of the Royal Family live with themselves- or any royal family for that matter. There is so much poverty, suffering, and misery in the world, and they live the most ridiculously privileged lives simply by being born in or marrying in. I feel bad enough about my relatively privileged lifestyle. One could say that any “rich” person should also feel bad, and maybe they should, but it’s the the amount of reverence and fawning that they get that is different in my mind. I could never in a thousand years live in a castle with people fawning over me when I knew my “subjects” and other people across the world, including children, are starving and dying on a daily basis. I hope this scandal ends the monarchy. They can all become wildly private and wealthy citizens and it will be one less glaring example of inequality in our troubled, broken world.
+1.
The very concept of a monarchy is offensive, no matter who the monarch is. But when it’s becoming more and more obvious that said monarch is protecting a pedophile, it’s one more proof than the entire institution needs to be left in the past.
“protecting a pedophile” may be the last nail in the coffin but I must admit, I really do not want too see BloJo’s ugly mug staring out of the windows of Buckingham Palace or Windsor castle.
Personally I believe Epstein was recording everything that was happening in his parties. That would mean there would be videos of the sexual shenanigans of the likes of Andrew. What we need is a higher power to throw Andrew under the bus and release the mother of all videos on the internet, making him shut his mouth forever.
Good luck with Eugenie`s charity about human trafficking. Did somebody say there was going to be a march for the charity in october ? Photos of Eugenie taken at this event would be up there with the Queen driving to church with Andrew the morning efter Epsteins death, both of them grinning from ear to ear.
I think what the RF is forgetting is that their paid PR hacks aka British RR may all be changed out in a couple of years. Newspapers go bust or change ownership. How is that famous photo of the Queen and Andrew going to look in a few years ?
In a couple of years we may have people blaming the Queen for the shambles of no deal brexit whether true or not , Andrew sued in the US for rape, Charles association with Jimmy Savile back in the headlines … and anyway one has to wonder how anybody would associate with Jimmy Saville a man not just rumoured for rape and peodophilia but also having intercourse with dead bodies in hospital morgues..
With Epstein dead, there’s going to be a scapegoat as people are out for blood — and justifiably so. Privileged wank pedo Andy is the perfect candidate. I hope he and others who are involved also take a big fall. Why isn’t that skank Ghislaine arrested yet or at least brought in for questioning? What happens to her now that Epstein case has been dismissed?
The header photo, I know any photo can be weird and unflattering- but doesn’t he look like he has just come blowing lines in the mens’ room?
He’s smilin’ Randy Andy…..it’s either he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about crisis talks or a case of: a smile hides a lot.
He is disgusting – and so is his money grabbing ex wife – they are both vile.
Let’s not forget the matriarch protecting the pedo. Also just as vile.
@Lady D Sometimes I wonder if none of the BRF really care about Andrew’s transgressions. They’re privileged and view others “less than.”
Personally I would prefer an end to monarchy in the U.K. after the Queen passes on. Ridiculous needless expense in my opinion. Provide jobs for the young people instead.
If the UK abolishes the monarchy (which each day I think is a better idea) the taxpayer will never see nor feel the gain of the $$$ used to support the Royal Family.
I am sure you are right. The taxpayer is never considered.
#abolishthemonarchy #allofthem #uselessparasites
Andrew is back at “work” and was spotted at an engagement in Devon apparently.
Also some outlets are reporting that the FBI have seized the Andrew, Virginia and Ghislaine photo.
“Andrew is back at “work” and was spotted at an engagement in Devon apparently.”
You are joking? Correct?
ETA: I did a Google search and this is for real. Andrew actually performed an official engagement today at the Dartmouth Regatta. WHAT ARE THE COURTIERS THINKING???
@bay I wish I had been joking. The royal family has also posted about the engagement on social media so going to check out the comments (if open). Think they are taking “keep calm and carry on” a bit too seriously.
I agree that average Brit is unlikely to see gain of abolishing the monarchy.
Oh my God. That’s actually outrageous.
He is the youngest member of the brf that does 200 plus engagements a year . No one else younger does more . If only they had younger members to do more but alas they don’t
lol @ “back at work”
Allowing Andrew to continue doing public engagements under the current circumstances??
“Madness. Madness and stupidity.” – Tywin Lannister
Never complain or explain, older than me philosophy
Oh sweet sassafras, the BRF is shameless
Ghislaine Maxwell needs to be tracked down STAT. Her sister was spotted packing up some stuff from the house belonging to her friend/boyfriend/whatever Scott Borgerson in Manchester-by-the-Sea. The photo of her eating at In-N-Out was likely staged by her attorney and friend Leah Saffian. Ghislaine was a “particular” friend of P Andrew’s and made the introduction to Epstein and their friendship developed over the years. For some reason Andrew was particularly loyal to him despite being warned repeatedly by a number of people that he was unsuitable, especially after the first conviction.
She hasn’t been criminally charged despite numerous allegations against her in recently-unsealed court documents but prosecutors likely can’t bring charges against her unless they have an airtight case. However I think the noose is tightening around her, hence she’s on the run and planting fake evidence of her whereabouts. Maybe they’re just giving her enough rope to hang herself (no pun intended…)
“For some reason Andrew was particularly loyal to him”
MONEY???? Personal ATM Machine????
You got it…he and Fergie are nothing more than shameless grifters.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Ghislaine is found with that proverbial noose around her neck. Not her own doing, of course.
I’m expecting it any day now. “Apparent” suicide. Yeah right…
Wait a minute, hold up. Sooooo pedophile Andy was on a private plane? RR will have another hit piece on Meghan this weekend to cover this
Good luck Andy . Your sorry reputation is totally ruined forever. But Mommy will bail you out once again. No other repercussions .
Where is the outrage about trump allegedly raping a 13 yeAr old . How does this cretin always get a pass ??
Thank you for bringing this up (Trump raping 13 year old). I keep it on the threads here from time to time, but it seems the broader media has forgotten.
http://www.deepsouthvoice.com/index.php/2019/07/07/a-woman-claimed-she-recruited-a-13-year-old-girl-for-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-to-rape/
#neverforget
I am wondering the same thing. It makes Clinton’s impeachment look like a joke (not saying Clinton is great or anything) but why does Trump get awY with his crimes?
Melania is higher than a kite in those photos.
She’d have to be to spend time with that disgusting sh*t-stain.
I was just gonna say, her and Andrew look SO coked out in that picture ROFL
More photos being published.
I think some British tabs have a lot on Andrew but the editors are afraid to some degree….it’s not only job loss or litigation, but the angrier taxpayers get the more potential for violence.
All three look wasted.
If Diana and Fergie’s divorces didn’t shove a stake through the heart of the monarchy, the Queen’s death is your next best opportunity.
She’ll live to 105 happily nibbling biscuits in her ivory tower.
Also…in 12 years will there be anything left of our world?
Diana RIP 31 August 1997
Trump tries to unsuccessfully distance himself from Epstein is laughable to say the least.
Remember this is the guy who :
– feels women should be grabbed by the pussy
– displayed inappropriate behaviour during his organizing paegent the pageant.
– let at least 6 children die under his watch
– 19 women and counting accusing him sexual inappropriate behaviour
And can anybody with a brain think that he’s some selfless chump that cut off Epstein because of the treatment of women/girls?
Don’t make me laugh…it’s all about the money he’s greedy af. And if it wasn’t for the real estate deal i bet he would still partying hard with Epstein knowing that he was a big pedo.
I don’t also think that it was a complete fallout…i think he still maintained relations with Epstein because of the money but they weren’t as close as they once were.
Behold, the smile of someone who knows they are untouchable.
Also, now who’s got the embarrassing family with dark secrets? The York family’s sinister secrets blow the Markle family’s trashiness WAY out of the water.
Ug. What a disgusting man.
If even Trump didn’t like him … says a lot about Epstein (and Trump).
Thanks to everybody who doesn’t allow this story to die!!!
hi megan,,,you,,,harry and the baby,,,need to come home to california,,,,leave that craziness**,,,on the other side of the pond 😉