Aunt Becky is screwed!! Hahahaha. Am I being too mean? It’s just that Lori Loughlin truly thought she could “manage” federal felony charges and wave them away with leaks to People Magazine. She thought she could wear white and talk about her faith-based life. She thought her white-woman privilege would protect her. And… it’s all blown up in her face. Shortly after Lori and her husband Mossimo were initially charged with many crimes (for their part in the college-admissions scheme), federal prosecutors offered her a plea deal which would have still involved prison time. She turned them down. The prosecutors added more charges, and Lori was already facing 10-20 years in prison if convicted. Well… now prosecutors have added additional charges. As I said, Aunt Becky is f-cked.
Felicity Huffman is halfway through her prison sentence for her role in the nationwide college bribery scheme, but Lori Loughlin could be looking at a lot longer stretch if found guilty for getting her daughters into USC under false pretenses. Having plead not guilty this spring to various federal charges from “Operation Varsity Blues,” the former Fuller House star and her husband Mossimo Giannulli are now facing a new bribery claim from the office of the U.S Attorney for Massachusetts. A new charge that potentially adds a decade more behind bars to the couple if found guilty at the trial expected next year.
In total, Loughlin and Giannulli are staring down the long road of 50 years in prison and around $1.23 million in fines each. As new of the scandal broke and has grown over the past several months, both of the duo’s daughters have left USC – the high-profile school their parents apparently played fast and loose with the law to get them into.
“Today’s charges are the result of ongoing investigation in the nationwide college admissions case,” said U.S. Attorney Andrew Lelling Tuesday after the new indictment against the once high-flying couple, STX founder Bill McGlashan, Jr and eight other deep pocketed parents was made public. “Our goal from the beginning has been to hold the defendants fully accountable for corrupting the college admissions process through cheating, bribery and fraud. The superseding indictments will further that effort.”
To be specific, with no new arraignment date set yet, the 11 parents are charged in the third indictment with conspiring “to commit federal program bribery by bribing employees of the University of Southern California (USC) to facilitate their children’s admission. In exchange for the bribes, employees of the university allegedly designated the defendants’ children as athletic recruits – with little or no regard for their athletic abilities – or as members of other favored admissions categories.”
Well, ain’t that something. Before now, I bet Lori thought her big plan to white-church-lady her way out of a conviction was going to work. She thought if she batted her eyelashes and cried a little on the stand, maybe a jury would take pity on her. But the charges keep piling up. Lori and Mossimo are going to be out of money just on legal fees before this whole mess is over, not to mention all of the fines they’ll have to pay if they’re convicted of even HALF of these charges.
Photos courtesy of Backgrid.
She will skate with a light sentence, Mark my words. This is still a system that will go easier on WW than WOC. If a cop can kill a man in his own home and only get 10 years than, yeah, she won’t get much time. I have no faith in the justice system.
The fact that additional charges have been brought signals to me that she will do some time. Two years? Maybe not as much as she should do but she is going to do some time.
Agree. I think she’ll get at least 18 months.
I’m thinking a couple of years too. She’s going to get more than Felicity, that’s for sure, but it won’t be more than 5 I bet.
She’ll do some time and, almost more importantly, she’ll have to pay A LOT of money in fines. They’ll likely end up broke which, really, won’t make me sad at all
ITA. She’ll get a “relatively” light sentence, but two years sounds plausible, and the fines . . . I don’t even feel vindictive toward her personally, but her sentencing will send a serious message about this crime. Hey super wealthy, it’s perfectly legal to send your kids to prestigious college prep schools and buy them a million tutors. Stealing college spots . . . that’s crossing a very fine line, but the line is there.
Agreed. I’d be surprised if she got six months.
Yeah. If she gets more than 6 months, I will be transformed into a believer. If a Black woman can be arrested for leaving her kid at a park during a job interview, Aunt Becky will get a slap on the wrist. Too many biased people in power, and too many legal distinctions written for the majority and not for everyone. Maybe this is an attempt by the Feds to show that isn’t true, but too many examples exist for me to believe that Mossimo and Lori will get what they really deserve: at least 3 years in jail and the loss of a major part of their fortune.
They won’t go broke. He sold in Target for, like, 20 years. That is A LOT in sales. They will be fine and will keep their Malibu lifestyle.
The original plea deal included two years behind bars. Lawyers on this site have said the original plea deal will not be repeated. She can still get a plea deal right up until the trial starts, but it won’t be as generous as the first 2 year deal. She’s facing fifty years so I think ten years of incarceration is more than fair. How many people get offered 1/5 of the time they’re supposed to do?
I’m curious if that two years means that’s what the prosecutors would recommend to the judge rather than being an absolute? It seems like the judge has discretion regarding the final amount of time served.
The parent who paid $400K to get his son into Georgetown as a fake tennis recruit was sentenced to four months. One parent got five months for taking part in both schemes, faking scores and athletic profile. A couple of people who, like FH, paid to fake scores, but spent more money, got one month each. (There’s of course additional fines and community service for all of them).
it should be pretty clear to LL and hubby that they are looking at a definite four to five months, no matter what. Likely more if they go to trial.
FH reported to prison last week.
White people, all the time.
A judge is not bound to a plea agreement between the prosecution and defence but normally they apply the recommended range.
That said, with more charges added to the mix, the prosecutors have more leverage and they are not going to offer anything as low as two years again. Nothing stops aunt Becky from taking the risk and going to to trial. She could get acquitted.
Maybe she’ll get 2 years, with early release for some reason like overcrowding, with a total of 3 months in jail. If that. And she may have great lawyers who can get her acquitted. So I don’t think she’ll spend much time in jail, if any.
Interesting @Nic919. Don’t know specifically what was recommended for parents other than FH, but my impression is the judge’s sentences – or at least the prison time parts – seem moderate compared to what prosecutors have requested.
Also interesting – LL isn’t the only one trying strategies to mitigate her problems. The Georgetown dad above (who pleaded guilty) submitted a 34 page report from an LA criminologist/court consultant about how he had a difficult childhood that left him susceptible to being manipulated into the scheme. And that’s not the only strategy people have tried.
The judge is not having it. “I maybe should say to you, before I get nine more of these: I don’t feel I need an expert report from a criminologist to tell me how to rule here, particularly where it’s the same criminologist that’s going to be probably presenting for everyone in LA.”
Sheesh.
More parents pleaded last week. Should be interesting to see what happens for those that do go to trial.
“The parent who paid $400K to get his son into Georgetown as a fake tennis recruit was sentenced to four months.”
It is my understanding that he got 4 months even though he pleaded guilty. Becky is going the not-guilty route, so she’ll have it much worse. I doubt she’d get 10 years or anything like that, though.
Yeah, if Felicity Huffman only got two weeks, I bet this trick only gets four weeks. No faith that the book will get thrown at her.
It’s absolutely a rigged system, but high-profile cases like these are what proponents of the system use to make people believe it’s not.
I predict she’ll get slapped down hard, but only so that certain people can go: “See? Whiteness and money can’t protect you after all! Justice prevails!” Her obliviousness and her daughter’s entitlement will be the perfect scapegoat, and meanwhile it’ll be hundreds of people just like them without the same media scrutiny who will get a slap on the wrist in similar, but non-famous, cases.
She won’t get the Felicity deal at this point. There was a wealth manager in our area who was involved in this scheme (he cheated to get both daughters into Georgetown). He was one of the hold outs but right before this news landed, he and his wife caved and copped a plea. The press was saying they can get anywhere between “a few weeks” to five months for this because they waited and were also leveled with additional charges (before the extra ones that Aunty Becky got). Those are the known sentences for people copping a plea.
The 5 month sentence went to a Napa vintner.
People are copping pleas left and right. It’s the holdovers who will suffer. At this point it will be more than 5 months because additional charges were leveled. Did they get charged with tax fraud as well? Are you listening Aunty Becky?
You know, I’ve done some thinking and have mulled over the tremendous strain and disruption to one’s life this whole experience must be and I just have to say: 😂
😂😂
They can easily pay fines. I’d be surprised if she does over 3 weeks prison. Again, why does the husband skate?
Who says he’s going to skate??
Moss was charged with her, they will get the same time, fines and comm service.
I think they’ve both been charged with all of the same things.
William H Macy is the one who seemed to skate. I know they didn’t have evidence on him, but you know he was involved, or at least ok with it.
But they apparently never got him on tape about it. Everyone they’ve charged they got through wire taps. WHM proves to be the smartest person just by not doing his illegal things on the phone/email.
I know, but that’s why I said they didn’t have the evidence on him.
But I’ll never believe he had zero to do with it.
I am at complete peace with my schadenfreude.
hahaha me too. I just laughed at the headline
Yep, me too. She must have equated the offer from the U.S. Attorney with a potential script. She didn’t like it, and she turned it down. As I hear the kids say, See ya. Wouldn’t want to be ya.
When the headline mentioned additional charges of bribery, I thought she had tried to bribe someone in the judicial system. I had a good laugh over the thought she was busted for that, but alas that’s not it.
Same! I’m not ashamed at all.
Yess girl.
Felicity Huffman handled this very well. I hate to see her still being scandalized because she admitted she made a bad choice, and you felt she was honest and forthright; but Lori & Mossimo were crazy not to take the plea like Felicity and just admit that what they did was wrong. I don’t think they’ll serve much time, but they deserve way more than Felicity for not even fessing up to what they did. Are they both this stupid?
Haha no she couldnt.
6 months. Mark my words.
That’s BS is she only does 6 months, but hopefully you’re right. Personally, I think she should do a lot more time. FH’s time is laughable.
Not only that, but at the CUSHIEST Club Fed in the country. It’s like a spa vacation for her. Have you read about it?? GEEZ! She can even get her roots touched up in there! Seems like the ONLY downside is the horrible jumpsuit and having to wake up/go to bed at specified times.
And let’s face it, a prison sentence isn’t going to impact Felicity’s ability to work after, as it does for “regular” peasants. I’d bet a LOT that Aunt Becky and her hubs have quite the bank accounts offshore where their resources can’t be “tapped” for fines/bankruptcy either. They’ll be fine financially.
I’d be ok (well, ok-ish) with her getting six months if she got more of a fine. 1.23 million is NOTHING to someone with 90 million in the bank. 30 million in fines (paid in full, not bargained down) and six months in jail. Her being in jail longer only serves to make an example of her (which I am not saying she doesn’t deserve, she totally does, but it seems like a waste of money. But then, I’m against long sentences for most non-violent crimes.)
I think it is complete BS if she skirts on this. She had a chance to plead guilty, but she chose not too. Now, she should be held accountable for her actions, and face some real time. There are a heck of a lot more charges against her and her husband, so I do expect her/them to do way more time then FH is doing. If she doesn’t do any time, our justice system will become an even bigger joke than it already is.
She had two chances. USA offered another deal right before they announced a second round of charges. She’s not going to skate. The people who took the second round, the longest sentence was 5 months.
She took a huge gamble and is losing. Turning up their noses at a plea deal was a giant mistake.
I’m sure the daughters will be loyal and share their “influencer” income to help cover the bills, right?
ESPECIALLY the one (OJ?) who posted the pic flipping everyone off. She seems especially kind and caring, doesn’t she? (yes, MAJOR sarcasm!)
Yeah, that one in particular seems like a selfless, caring child. Great investment, Aunt Becky and Mo!
I also snicker at the karma this is for Mo, who apparently (by his own account) misled his own folks into thinking he was attending college as he siphoned the funds.
If she gets anything remotely close to any real consequences at all, I’ll be extremely pissed. Don’t get me wrong, her actions and reactions were problematic from the beginning, and she deserves this stress. But as a taxpayer in this country, there are far worse crimes being committed every second of every day by one particular dipshit in charge, and until our legal system takes care of this blatant criminal, we should be able to do anything, say anything and be anything. Taking the high road has never in my lifetime been so incredibly useless.
She deserves to rot in jail for a few years.
I agree. She snubbed her nose at the charges as if she and her husband were above the law and that their privilege and standing in society would protect them. Now she’s freaking out but she should have been honest and plead guilty since she clearly was. I hope that she and her husband are given lengthy sentences, tremendous fines and outrageous community service.
What in the world are you talking about? Part of the reason he does whatever he wants is because the system lets people like Lori Loughlin skate by.
Yes, what she did was morally reprehensible and completely illegal. She should face the appropriate penalties, but 50 years in prison?! You don’t even get 50 years in prison for MURDER in my country. It’s a waste of taxpayer’s money letting someone like this languish behind bars for what will probably be the rest of her life, if she receives the maximum sentence.
In saying that, I definitely think she deserves SOME jail time, but like 2-3 years max.
“but this lady is just some dumb, pearl wearing, rosary bead praying Becky.”
And that’s the problem. The fact that there are two vastly different treatments of people who commit crimes (read and article this morning about a cop rightfully being fired after pulling a gun on, kicking, and arresting parents in front of their children after the oldest who was FOUR had stolen a doll from the f-cking dollar store.) is a huuuuge issue.
And that’s not changing. This woman doesn’t need your sympathy. She is a criminal. She deserves to be treated as such, and to serve whatever sentence is the norm for her charges.
And let’s not pretend that she doesn’t KNOW that she’ll be treated better because she’s just an oh-so-wholesome bible thumping ‘classy’ white lady. And let’s not pretend that she’s been laying that pathetic schtick on THICK throughout all of this. She doesn’t need and she doesn’t deserve the sympathy that people are giving her.
It’s felony level fraud, that’s why, and it dips into potential tax evasion with them writing it off as a contribution. The feds don’t mess around when it comes to big money. Nothing more or less, IMO. It’s more about money than true morality.
@MABS A’MABBIN
You know part of the crime is that they committed tax fraud. Do you “as a taxpayer” care about that?
Yep the IRS really goes after tax cheats. Ask Willie Nelson – he didn’t go to jail but the forfeiture team stormed his mansion and took everything – right down to the rings on his fingers.
I’m with @mabs on this topic. There are so many shady men on Wall Street and in politics that skirt the system with serious white collar crime and get a slap on the wrist. I guess I don’t see how ‘reprehensible’ it is for her to pay extra to some sports club for her daughters to get into college. The whole college admissions process is corrupt and has been for generations- how else could George w Bush get into an Ivy? If she had been the head of a pyramid scheme were she pocketed a percentage of millions from other donors, then I could understand the feds throwing the book at her. She did this on behalf of her children alone. It wasnt ethical, but since when are college admissions to a private institution fair? I really don’t get why this needs to be made an example of. She’s not a drug runner like el chapo…
@Fleur
You and @Mabs are really minimizing their crimes and the consequences of them.
They didn’t just pay to cheat on a test or to get their kids in. The whole scam involved their conspirator setting up a fake charity so that people like Aunt Becky and her husband could “donate” that money and be able to commit tax fraud that way—That’s a federal crime if i’m not mistaken. Even drug criminals/mafiosos get booked on ish like that.
The scam also involved bribing doctors to claim their teenage kids had learning disabilities—that way they got accommodations like extra days to complete the SATs —but what it really involved was having someone there alter their score.
Them bribing the coach/athletics faculty to pretend their 2 children were there on athletics merit also meant that any student actually on the team would be hushed and punished by the coach if they revealed that Aunt Becky’s kids weren’t actually part of the team—meaning innocent kids who worked hard for their place in that school now had to be involved in the secrecy and fraud so as not to jeopardize their earned spot on the team.
As to the effect of these crimes that bothers me greatly is also that many people work so hard to get a spot in a college/university like that, and programs can only admit a certain amount of students a year. To me it’s awful these two girls and their parents lied and cheated their way into school and took those spots away from people who would have actually benefited from that education.
Well said, Mtec!
I understand everything you gals are saying. I truly do. Prison time should be a consequence. And normally I’m all in for maximum effect of the cause. And I realize I’m not fully engaged with her punishment, but I just can’t swim in that pool right now because I’m so damn angry with what our genius douche gets away with every day. He has federal crimes and treason oozing out of every orifice. My faith in a fair and just system has flown. I honestly think I’ve lost hope in right and wrong. And I apologize for sounding apathetic.
Lock her up, lock her up!
Am I a bad person that I hope the book gets thrown at them? If they were like Felicity, I’d be okay witha
a few months. However, they’ve acted entitled and self righteous during this whole thing. Which actually makes sense that they thought they could throw money at whomever to get their girls a spot on something they didn’t earn. If they showed an ounce of humility and regret, maybe I’d feel differently.
I can’t decide what I am looking forward to the most:
Trump’s impeachment, the collapse of Brexit or this trial.
I bought popcorn already, I had no idea the trial won’t happen until next year! SO SAD!
Why is it taking so long for her trial?
Well, the investigation is ongoing, and the longer this drags out the more charges get bolted on, which they could have avoided if they’d taken a plea deal early on. And I’m totally fine with that.
At the moment, they’re in the process of sentencing the people who have pleaded guilty (not all are parents). Several were sentenced around the same time FH was, there’s at least a dozen more, and apparently several people changed their pleas to guilty last week.
Changed their plea after seeing Felicity in her green prison duds? I think nine of them changed their plea after that picture came out.
I actually think paying to jack up your kids’ SAT scores is worse than this case. As a former high school teacher, that really burns me up. We worried about the kids cheating and it’s the parents paying to have wrong answers corrected? Shit.
It burns me up too. It’s cheating at it’s worse and it shows entitlement. Don’t worry, you don’t have to work hard because mommy and daddy will pay for it.
As an educator, I too thought the cheating on tests was worse. Though both were bad. If you saw how hard our kids work to improve their scores and how stressed they get trying to get their scores up, you would get a slow burn on this too.
Did anyone think that Lori looked horrible in these latest photos? AND did anyone think she was doing it for show and to get sympathy?
My daughter is one of those kids the works really hard and stresses herself out. It sucks.
And yes, Lori looks awful in those photos. Looks to me like she is starting to get an inkling of how badly she has screwed up.
I assume their daughters’ scores were “helped” as well, but I don’t know if we’ve seen evidence of that. But people who would stage a fake crew team shot and shell out HALF A MILLION for their idiot kid to go to USC surely wouldn’t have left their grades and test scores alone.
It sounds like there are more federal charges here, mail fraud and a variety of other things, that Felicity didn’t do, so the charges (and sentencing hopefully) will be greater.
Should have taken that deal. Hubris is a bitch. The reality is, though, she and her husband and those others did far worse than Felicity Huffman. They deserve harsher treatment.
First of all, they have five hundred million in the bank, so there’s no way some legal fees and a couple of million and change in fines is going to bankrupt them.
Second – a question: have any charges been filed against Massimo?
Third: This woman should go to jail for fifty years in prison but will be in for less than five because it’s a nonviolent crime and she is a WW. My husband says she and her husband should have to create a scholarship fund and give millions away per year to underprivileged kids from under-served communities instead of doing hard time. I like the germ of that idea but making rich people do rich people stuff instead of hard time sounds like a cop out. How about they serve time and then they do that themselves on their own time with their remaining hundreds of millions of dollars.
Nowhere near $500 million; read over the weekend she is worth $8M and his net worth is around $80M. Yes, he’s also been indicted on the same charges (except maybe this most recent one) but she’s the more famous so gets the headlines. They won’t get anything close to 50 years, prosecutors threw out the high numbers, which would be the max sentence for every single charge and served consecutively vs concurrently. They do this in hopes of scaring the defendants and to get them to accept a plea deal. Agree they should have to set up some sort of scholarship beyond fines but not sure the feds can do this, state and local judges seem to have more leeway with creative sentencing.
Not to mention net worth also isn’t the same as cash on hand. It’s a value estimation of all properties, businesses, and holdings if they could be liquidated to money. I’m sure they’re millionaires, but I’d be very surprised if what they had in the bank at all approached the worth of his business.
I almost commented back to you earlier on your comment @Nessa,but stopped because I’m conflicted.
My husband and I have said many times they should pay for the education of many less privileged students,those whom have been knocked out of their rightful place at a good schools ,due to cheating and scamming such as this.
OTOH-I’m worried that if this happens they (LL and GM)will somehow end up being praised for their *generosity*as this will eventually get white washed and swept under the rug so to speak,in the sense that unfortunately money and time can make people forget.
Ultimately they should face the same kind of charges anyone else would,fines,jail,etc-and then I would love to see them shell out huge money to other kids/students,but I fear in so doing it’s a win for the guilty as their money and status is what they used to get themselves and their kids into this mess and could also be what could make it easier for them to get out.
If that makes sense…
Please lock her up and her sorry-ass daughters too. Please.
Agreed! Those girls should have to do at least a year’s worth of community service. THEY KNEW what they were doing! THEY POSED for those pictures on rowing machines that were photoshopped into their schools’ teams to make it look like they did it in high school. They ARE complicit!
I think this is a bit of overkill, but whatever.
She won’t do anywhere near that, but I do suspect there will be at least some time done. If Felicity got time for a significantly lesser amount and a plea deal, girlfriend is going to see at least a couple months. These guys are the bottom of the barrel of things I care about legally, but they dug their own hole on this.
Mossimo is worth over 80mil dollars. They definitely will NOT be out of money anytime soon.
They should have taken the deal. And it makes me cackle in karma to think if how they BOTH now realize that.
If the IRS is involved, they will calculate the entire thing, as taxes owed and compounded penalties. That $80M won’t go far = especially if they are not liquid assets.
She and her husband are asses and a half but some rapists/murderers don’t even serve 50 years in jail. She should be given a good year, a full year (not time served etc) and so should her husband in alternating terms because they have kids (like Joe and Teresa Guidice). Speaking of which, those two didn’t even get that much time for tax fraud, and neither did Mike (who I love) for tax evasion.
Their “kids” are legal adults, not young children. Mom and Dad need to serve time at the SAME time. Let those brats learn what it’s like to get along in the real world WITHOUT mommy and daddy to “make it better” or pay the bills.
It really depends on how much they owe the IRS and how they cheated. Wesley Snipes was gone for a few years due to tax fraud.
Her daughters are probably, secretly planning their wardrobes. What to wear when their mother is sentenced; something black with minimal jewelry? Waterproof mascara is a must! Or maybe eyelash extensions? How to look cute, but tragic. This is hard to figure out. But they can do it, because they’ve smart! They got in USC!
I’m kind of outraged that a kid can apparently be dumb but still get into USC if they can row a boat. That’s almost as much of a scam as pretending you can you row a boat.
Visit an Ivy or extra-Ivy campus, and you will find the idiot progeny of wealth everywhere. The top tier schools are full of kids like that.
While I do believe Lori and her husband will only serve a light sentence (under five at most), I have to admit I’m enjoying the stress this must be putting them under.
Just like I won’t be surprised if Trum9 isn’t removed from office and doesn’t face hard time, I’m enjoying the stress it’s putting him under.
Yeah, I know it makes me a bad person but I don’t care right now
They’re probably already in talks for a reality show.
There are women of color jailed for decades right now in this country for putting theeir kids into better school district.
SUCH a good point, Dorothy. It’s a travssty.
Do I think they should go to prison for a decade for this? No, but they should at least serve a couple of years, get a mountain of community service afterward and be heavily fined. I know that a lot of people say that Felicity isn’t really sorry and just had better PR, but I don’t agree. She handled this in a much more dignified way and accepted her punishment, as light as it was. She didn’t pretend to be religious, or pose for selfies on her way to court either. Lori and her husband are complete idiots. Imagine the level of entitlement they feel to think they can just “put this behind them” with no repercussions. No amount of being photographed leaving church is going to make this go away. Her daughters are also clearly vapid, entitled little brats, who see nothing wrong with cheating the system. Other parents have faced years in prison for simply saying they lived at a different address to get their children into a better elementary school. But then again, they were WOC who couldn’t count on People magazine for sympathetic stories about their stress levels.
Part of her entitlement might come from the fact that she did not wake up at dawn with FBI agents pointing guns in her and her daughter’s faces. That kind of shock might have helped propel Felicity into admitting her guilt and her mea culpas. Lori was allowed to sashay into court treating the sidewalk like a catwalk. She offered autographs and made a big show of shaking hands with the DA and she poo-poo’ed any idea that she would be found guilty. It helped her with her attitude of I’m above the law.
Well Kaiser I am not a mean person. I know you are not a mean person. When I read the headline yesterday in the news I was hahahahahahaha. I had a lot more ha-ha’s than you wrote. 🙂 We can be mean about this. 🙂
She might be sentenced to do years but we all know in the end it’ll be commuted. She’ll get released early, have to do weekend jail, or house arrest. No way Aunt Becky is doing years in the pent
She won’t do years but the federal system doesn’t have weekend jail, early release for overcrowding (good behavior, yes), etc.
I looked and Felicity only serces 14 days in prison? That’s so low. And fines were just 30 000 and a year of supervision. I mean I don’t think she neened to be a decade in prison or have her life ruined over this and at least there was some prison time but I would have thought at least a couple of months would have been more fitting.
I too have zero faith in the justice system. She might do a month or two at the very most. Doubtful she’ll see even six months or a year. She should be ashamed of herself.
I wonder if their lawyers have been recommending that they refuse all deals and take it to trial and they are listening to them, or I wonder if their lawyers have been telling them to take the pleas and they are just doing what they want? I can’t imagine any attorneys telling them to just wait and see so I wonder what’s going on.
Facing 50 years…..damn. I think she’ll do a fair amount but risking literally 50 years imprisoned is….whoa. And really kind of f*cked up. Rapists do way less than that and there are statutes of limitations for them to even be charged. If I were her I’d be tempted to somehow anonymously charter a private plane and get on as a stowaway and get lost in an obscure place overseas. And I’m only half joking… except I don’t think she’d be able to accept anything less than a resort and beach so probably wouldn’t work.
I was thinking the same. The thing is, if she leaves and is subsequently caught at any time, she’s in prison for life. So I don’t know. I think once she turned down the deal the die was cast. Life-altering error.
It’s interesting how our system values justice. 50 years for scamming.
How many years did Weinstein get?
What about Epstein? It drives me crazy. I am not for prison for any non violent offender honestly.
Weinstein’s case isn’t in trial yet so no one knows. Epstein was waiting for trial when he hung himself. Those are not the same because there is no outcome yet.
And it points sharply to how our justice system treats those cases.
There shouldn’t be a difference, yet here we are.
And for what it’s worth, I don’t think Epstein killed himself.
People, even good people, can get tangled up in life and make mistakes, so I could’ve looked past all of this while watching one of her Lifetime movies, if Lori had come clean in the beginning. However, the fact that she and her husband have never admitted to any wrong doing and appear to have no intention of ever doing so is outrageous! They have continued to show the public and the government their unfortunate and unsightly character flaws.
I hope whatever happens to them it knocks the stupid creepiness right out of them.
Hallmark movies! She’s not good enough for Lifetime!
I don’t know…clearly what she did was wrong and speaks to white privilege, but I think the real outrage is that our “meritocracy” is a lie. And what better way to express that outrage, to find a focal point for something so much bigger, than by putting a kind of scarlet A on a woman, a mother, while so many have done, and are doing, so so so much worse…
In all honestly, do you really want her in jail? At the tax payers expense? I mean, she committed a crime, but I don’t think it warrants jail time. Fine her substantially, and that will be her lesson. I’m sure she will never do anything like this again
Yes-I want her in jail. Put her ass in an orange jumpsuit and drag her to jail, yes I do because it’s the only way she’ll get it.
This is exactly why the ultra wealthy think they can do whatever the hell they want…. cause they can just buy their way out of trouble. They deserve fines and jail time.
Oh libs want her in prison, and for decades. They like thinking about it. I’m a liberal btw! But I am anti-prison except in the case of violence. I will tell you something this calls to mind something that happened during Bill Clinton’s presidency. a young (white) male was arrested in another country ( I forget which one), for graffiti and was sentenced to being lashed! Well, Clinton tried to get this stopped, but the right went nuts! I can’t even recount the number of really sadistic letters to the editor I read in Newsday about this. I mean, they wanted this kid lashed! They wanted to see it! They wanted more lashes! I think they really wanted Clinton lashed, and they basically called him a wimp for not wanting to torture a teenager. I was so sickened. So I see this thirst for vengeance in many people. I have always been sickened by it. I get that Lori is smug and entitled, and I will tell you I likely cannot stand her politics, and I doubt I could sit at a table with her without laughing in her face. But I don’t like to see people suffer, even those I don’t like. I mean, unless it’s Donald Trump, but hey, he has been responsible for a lot of violence! So I think that keeps me within my values.
I believe the case you were referring to was in Singapore. It was caning. There isn’t much Clinton can do if this happened in another country. Again, kids, when you are not in the US, respect the rules of other countries. You wont’ get that kind of leeway outside of US.
lmao at anyone who still has faith in the justice system
it will work for her. her persona, the religious angle, the lack of melanin, all of it
FH only days a few days, so she probably will get a few months
i cut my hair like Karen’s if she gets more than 12 months
Whoops, I made a BIG mistake because of my love for my daughters. Going to cop a plea and donate a ton of money to X. I’ll even get papped on community service. – advice of any PR 1st year…