Kanye West was supposed to drop his new album, Jesus Is King, on September 27th, then Kim promised that it would come out on September 29th. Yeezy fans really stayed up late for the album to drop online. It did not. Then Kanye said, this time it’s for real, this time we’re dropping at midnight on 10/25. It didn’t happen. He’s still putting the final touches on the songs, so maybe next week, maybe a month from now. I do think it will be released sooner rather than later because Kanye’s already started the promotional tour for it. He gave an interview to Beats 1 about his new religious stuff, his bipolar disorder, and how he went way overboard with his coworkers. Here’s a clip:
I’ll say this… Kanye seems more lucid here than he’s seemed in years. He almost seems like the old pre-breakdown Kanye. But pre- or post-breakdown, Kanye still has issues with boundaries and a lot more. Some quotes:
Being handcuffed in the hospital during his breakdown: “The most space that I had to think is when I went to the hospital. One of the things that happened when I went to the hospital is I started reading the Bible and I started writing and copying out Bible verses.”
He’s a son of God: West now sees himself as a “son of God… Now that I’m in service to Christ, my job is to spread the Gospel, to let people know what Jesus has done for me. I’ve spread a lot of things.”
What he did while working on the album: “There were times when I was asking people to fast during the album. This is gonna be radical what I’m about to say … There were times when I was asking people to not have premarital sex while they were working on the album.” West said there were “times when I went to people that were working on other projects and said, ‘Could you just work and focus on this?’ I thought if we could all focus and fast, I mean it’s known families that pray together stay together.”
Religion has improved his life: “There was a time I was letting you know what high fashion had done for me. I was letting you know what the Hennessy had done for me. But now I’m letting you know what Jesus has done for me, and in that I’m no longer a slave. I’m a son now, a son of God. I’m free.”
On running for political office: “There will be a time when I’m president of the US, and I will remember… any founder that didn’t have the capacity to understand culturally what we’re doing.”
Yeah. Kanye’s been canceled for a while now for political reasons, so I’m not going to do some angry tirade about his words here. Trying to tell coworkers – likely freelancers/independent contractors – that they can’t work on other sh-t or have premarital sex is not just wrong, it’s illegal. They could sue him. As for his religious stuff… I’ve been saying for a while now that his move to a Kanye-specific evangelical revivalism is just about his bipolar disorder. It’s not a conscious “I’m doing this to make money” scheme, although he will find a way to monetize it, clearly. Religion is just what his mind is clinging to like a salve.
Photos courtesy of Backgrid and Avalon Red.
Is that even legal?
Imagine your boss, who got Kim Kardashian pregnant while she was married to Kris Humphries, telling you not to have premarital sex due to his new found Kristianism.
Nope! It’s also not applicable unless you give a chastity belt to all your unmarried employees… But most importantly, it’s incredibly stupid and shows how unwell he is
Very unwell and getting worse it seems like. Too extreme can be form of mania.
Would he even know who Kim was if there was no premarital sex, or hand held cameras/camcorders for that reason. Would any of us?? Maybe he’s onto something.
If my boss did this is I’d be like sure Jan and sue him.
Seriously how would he even know??
Would he go to their homes and check their sheets? Garbage bags? Sniff their privates? How
It’s harassment for sure. Your employer has no say about how you live your life outside of working hours and doesn’t even have the right to suggest how you should behave. And considering how Kim became famous and how they got together, he should shut up. KK was in her right to profit from her tape, he’s not right to try to shame anyone who has the sex life they want because he has a different perspective now.
He should be in therapy, not giving interviews
No, it is not legal.
“Kristianism”! snort! love it!
No. And they should sue.
Next month he’ll be complaining that Kim isn’t sexy enough and all his employees have to wear biking shorts with sports bras.
Yes. The “ministerial exception” to federal labor laws allow religious entities to entirely ignore hiring/firing rules. Churches do it all the time. Employment at certain Mormon jobs, for example, require that employees be literal card-holding members, meaning they can’t be sexually active outside of heterosexual marriage, have to wear the special underwear, have to be paying money to the church (minimum 10% on GROSS income, including insurance payouts, court settlements, financial aid, etc.). All churches have these restrictions and get away with it.
If you think this is bad, you should read about how religious entities are exempt from laws banning corporal punishment in schools, state and federal licensing requirments for day cares, and torture laws (conversion therapy). Kanye is demonstrating perfectly why religion needs to be outlawed, starting with removing their tax exemptions.
Now that I have had premarital sex with all walks of life, sometimes paying for it, sometimes one night standing it…now that I am no longer young and no longer want to do that, none of you can
Oy vey with the real T for the win!
He is suck a freak.
….just like those creepy cult leaders 😳
Someone should explain to Kanye being against what religious conservatives have already been against is not radical. SWERFs and TERFs should learn this too.
The majority of women I’ve seen get called TERFs are lesbians fed up with being told they need to re-examine their sexuality because it’s morally unacceptable for it not to include penises. So…you know. Things that religious conservatives have also been telling them.
Likewise, every “SWERF” I’ve ever known is either an exited sex worker herself, or is listening to the ones who don’t feel their circumstances are empowering rather than the ones who insist that’s the only acceptable way to feel about them.
Most of the time I see those terms used accurately to describe feminists who are actively transphobic or who discriminate against and dehumanize sex workers. There may be people who misuse them just like any other term that names oppression. They still have their place though. But neither should be used to pressure people over sexual preferences or shame sex-workers for discussing their own circumstances.
Yes but I think it’s more a sign of his vile disorder. I hoe he’s not off his meds.
He isn’t getting care from a competent psychiatrist, unless he is totally non-compliant with his meds. One of the two, perhaps both.
I can’t even be mad at him anymore…I just pity him
It’s like with Trump for me. They both have too much money and influence for me to pity them. They’re too dangerous and I pity everyone in their orbit.
Me too. He is clearly not well. It’s very pitiful.
Kanye is really sick.
Yeah…this intense religiosity and grandiosity is all too common in folks with bipolar when they’re experiencing mania. It’s the most common symptom I see in my crisis work with this population. I wish he were on good meds, I wish he had good supports around him, I wish his mom hadn’t died like she did. He is not a well man.
I mean he’s delusional. It’s very sad.
Not to have premarital sex??? Does this muthafauker know that 98% of the iconic gospel albums/songs were recorded by gay/lesbian people?? And I’m sure they were having sex at the time. How about he just stick to taking his meds on time and stop trying to control other people’s lives (and that includes his wife. I can’t believe he made me defend her which makes this even more annoying)
This will not end well.
Hes in a very, very bad place and hes only going to get worse. I pity his family and coworkers.
Why do you pity them? They choose to protect and baby this dumbass for $$$$$$$$.
Yet North is in their wedding pics….
Say it louder for the celibate co-workers in the back…..
Lol
To be fair Kim was married when North was conceived, to another man but still she was MARRIED!
Lololol! Nice one, Zapp!
Ha ha ha good one ! But I guess that’s ok in Kanye’s eyes.
IKR.
If there was no premarital sex, his hero Trump wouldn’t have rape victims. Then again, Ivana said she was raped during their marriage. Religious hypocrites.
I was going to say the same thing. I’m sure he and Amber Rose just held hands too. Also, didn’t he at one time talk about how into porn he was. Unbelievable.
#Fingersinthebootyassbitch
Kanye suffers from mental illness, and at this point he is being exploited because of his lack of capacity. Someone call adult protective services.
I used to think that the religious mania was going to be thing that finally pushed PMK into getting Kim to divorce him, but he’s serious about running for president and PMK and her prize grifter have been pushing that for the last two years – that is the last, biggest prize and they want it bad. And unfortunately in this new bizarro world, it could happen. They gave a whole audience of empty heads supporting her (you know, because she’s such a selfless saint now) and since the two of them have been sucking up to baby hands for the last few years, they have a steady source of high level publicity and support and you know they know it.
What a coup for the religious right in this country – they can install another little puppet and say “see?? We’re not racist!!”.
Do you think Kim’s next husband will be a calm, quiet, older businessman, or a calm, quiet, younger, supportive guy (like her mom’s boyfriend?
Why not both!
Young and supportive for husband #3, go quiet and older for #4.
Kanye is already No. 3. So 4 and 5.😁
Oops! My apologies to the (currently) Mrs. West! I underestimated her! 😏
Kanye is husband 3! It could still happen for 4 & 5
Because married people aren’t distracted but single people are? Did he specify married people should only sleep with spouses?
Were his last albums made while celibate?
Otherwise?
You know, just like he and Kim didn’t… Oh wait…
and lol at “families that pray together stay together”
“When I’m president”. Oh geez.
Yes, That scares me too!
Never thought there’d come a day that I pity Kim yet here we are. I hope he gets medicated cause this is a lot.
It’s his mental illness speaking. It’s a phase.
Religious fantasism and mental illness go hand in hand
I agree. Shades of Rev. Jim Jones.
Bingo. Kanye’s figured out a big revenue source is Evangelicals. He’s pretty good at self-promotion and getting other people’s money. Gotta give him that.
But Brad Pitt approves? SMH
Everything is a phase. Our political system is going through a phase. War is a phase. And death is a final phase for each of us. So let’s not sideline actions because they’re phases. It reminds me of the statement, ‘Boys will be boys.’ Actions embedded within phases define our existence. It’s time to fight the cray.
Well said, mabs. I need to make a poster of this.
You are so right Mabs – phases create the realities in which we live, good and bad.
Only if he diligently takes his pills, fair?
He sounds so completely insane here.
Religious Mania is a common symptom of Bipolar Disorder. None of this makes me think he is anywhere close to well.
Omfg. Omfg. Wait, lemme go look at some naked pics of his wife. Oh, and check out his lyrics. I can’t even process this hypocritical maniac. He and his president are cut from the same crazy cloth. I can’t wait for total demise. It never comes, I don’t get it, but I continue to be excited for the genius coup de grace.
“I will remember any founder that didn’t have the capacity to culturally understand what we’re doing.”
Wtf does that mean? Dude spouts total nonsense and some people will call it genius just because they don’t understand it. They’ll think it’s over their heads, but it’s total word salad.
This confirms two things for me:
1) Kim K doesn’t like sex
2) The Leftovers were more of a documentary of the state of things in the US rather than a fictional series (take this one with a grain of salt please)
The problem with narcissists is that they don’t think there’s anything wrong with them and are therefore impossible to cure. Kanye’s narcissism is actually stopping him from getting help for his other disorders. We can speculate as to which he is suffering from but we all know people who have mental issues who actively participate in their treatment and get better. I don’t think Kanye is treatable. He will always know better than his doctors.
This is clearly his mania speaking, which is a sign that he’s still surrounded by people who, instead of trying to help him, feed into and encourage his craziest behavior.
I really feel bad for him, and this is a great reminder that sometimes even all the money in the world can’t protect you if you don’t have people who have your best interest at heart.
“I mean it’s known families that pray together stay together.” Yep, that’s why no Christian families are dysfunctional, divorced, or abusive. (Has he forgotten his wife is on her third (?) marriage?)
Oh, so he is officially on his way to becoming a cult leader. I knew something wasn’t right about this new-found religion. One of the hallmarks of a cult (thank you Lifetime, WeTV, and ID) is when the cult leader controls their members’ sex life and activity. Please see Yahweh ben Yahweh, Jim Jones, and countless others.
And yes, technically these were his employees but not his members. But there is always a trial run. This is not going to end well.
Yup. This is scary shit but it’s also not surprising. And the shit he’s spouting including the stuff about wanting Kim to change how she dresses: this is classic Christian fundamentalist, anti-woman bullshit. It’s the same kind of cult-like behavior that RK uses to control and abuse women, the same thing that cult leaders throughout time have used, we see it here in Chicago…It’s nothing new but why is it that controlling ass dudes like this always think they’re revealing something new? Please. This is why women are in the position we’re in. And from the other post about his new church: of course Brad Pitt is a fan. This is just the kind of misogynist drivel that appeals to someone like that under cloak of hip hop legitimacy.
Been saying it, got raked over the coals for saying it, but idgaf. Kanye is full of shit and this is just another example.
Well technically not just cults, all the major religions try to dictate people’s sexual activities. But then again, I’ve always viewed religion/cults as practically the same thing which isn’t a popular opinion.
It is a matter of degree. Some religions are way more controlling than others. And some cults pretend to be religions (scientology comes to mind, and also that NYXIUM or however they spell it) which aren’t even trying to be religions, but they think it makes them look better.
I have bipolar 1 disorder, and what that means for me is that I have fewer manic episodes but they come with major psychosis and religious ideation. In the throes of mania I’ve had intense conversations with God, Jesus, as well as Oprah, Stephen king, and a whole host of other people, dead and alive. By the time I come out of it, I easily accept that I’ve never talked with Oprah. But the god stuff is harder. The majority of most people in the world believe in some form of deity. I wasn’t religious to start with and I’m still not, but I can’t deny that these experiences changed me. I guess the reason I’m leaving a message is that I’ve been reading this website since well before my first episode. The people that comment here are overwhelmingly kind and thoughtful. I want people to understand that while people who have a mental illness might suffer the same symptoms, we are all individuals with our own personalities and motivations.
That is very interesting. Thank you for sharing. I can understand how people get very religious, based on your comments and experience.
We (human beings) love to group people into categories. It’s how are brains work. It’s too bad too because we do put types of people in big bucket categories, that aren’t always fair or true.
@Stigma is real, thanks for your post! I appreciate you sharing your experience and helping to shed light on mental illness for others. I imagine Kanye being African American and so many black people’s fixation on religion doesn’t make it easier for him. Religion is a go-to for many black people. Not saying this critically, as I consider myself a Christian, but I imagine many black people applauding him for turning to religion rather seeing it as a sign of mania.
Thank you for your post!
+1. Thank you for sharing.
@Stigma is real, thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. It takes a lot of courage to admit to mental illness, even anonymously on a message board because, yes the stigma IS real. Blessings to you on your journey.
Remember Tom Cruise and other scientos promoted their cults from their jobs? Tents at sets and sending people to take courses in order of them keeping their jobs, it akso happened with that pyramid scheme ESP of Raniere and whatshername that superman/smallville actress. They are still in business.
This quote from the article “I thought if we could all focus and fast, I mean it’s known families that pray together stay together.” What? There are so many things wrong with that statement and sentiment.
“It is known”? Really? Statistically, there are just as many divorces in religious and non-religious households. And why does that need to be applied to a professional working relationship?
On another note, I am glad that he has found that religion is helpful for his state of mind, but I have family experience with bi-polar. It is a scary and f*ed up thing that your brain goes thru. Religion, prayer, and good intentions don’t fix it. I really hope he’s on well-managed drugs and therapy.
I heard this kind of thing growing up. I knew a man who regularly forced his wife and children to kneel in dark rooms on concrete floors for hours on end until they collapsed which was then a sign that they weren’t devoted to God enough. Horrific and all in the name of their Jesus. I’m still traumatized by just hearing about it and being in those kinds of communities. (Sorry but the real Jesus was a mf-ing badass who never would have stood for this, in fact, he regularly beat up dudes–physically or through words–who tried to pull this shit.)
Maybe he should remember that it was a sex tape of his wife (before she was his wife) having pre-marital sex that set off the entire Kardashian reality show franchise of stupid. Maybe he should remember that the orange moron he worships had pre-marital sex with a porn star while he was married to his third wife who he cheated with when he was married to his second wife et al.
Suddenly turning Christian for the sake of your image doesn’t make you a better person. It just makes you a hypocrite. If his mother was alive she’d slap some sense into his head.
@leah I was just having this discussion with some co-workers. I firmly believe that his mother was his sole support system when it came to his mental health & being medicated, which is why his MH issues didn’t rear their ugly head (publicly) until after she passed. He was always an egomaniac with delusions of grandeur, but not like this. No one seems to be looking out for his well-being and it’s actually quite sad. I still go back & forth, though, between feeling bad for him and rolling my eyes at his latest outlandishness, like how much of it is actually attributed to his MH issues and how much of it is him being an egotistical asshole?
I agree 100% with this. As soon as Kanye’s mother passed, Kardashian made her move, tossing her brand new husband aside. I have no doubt that Kanye’s mother knew the nest of vipers the Kardashians were and had kept her son away from them (even though he had expresses interest in Kim).
Even though he’s becoming a bigger asshole daily, my heart does hurt for Kanye. He might have been an egomaniac with serious issues but he was never like THIS. It’s clear that there isn’t a single person in his life that cares enough about him to help him with his illness.
Kanye brought that entire family into the respectable world. None of them would be accepted in the circles they’re in now if it wasn’t for him. They’re draining him dry and soon they will toss him aside, blaming HIM. See: Odom, Lamar.
I see another hospital visit in his near future if this keeps escalating.
I do too. He’s not well.
He is an ill person with too many resources.
Instead of money and connections helping him get better, he is getting worse.
It reminds me of the story of that rich Woolworth heiress who had an ED and money only made her illness worse, as she could indulge into her weaknesses and pay people who would not help her, only enable her.
What a massive jerk. How could Kim marry him?
Probably because she too is a massive jerk.
Bullshit. People who actually are religious do not usually compare themselves to gods and/or Jesus, it is usually called pride which is a deadly vice
Wait until he figures out we’re on a Planet…ALONE NO GOD
Hyper-religiosity is a feature of mania
i feel so sorry for him and don’t want to mock him. But really if I worked for him how would he know. I am surprised so many people are flocking to his Sunday services
Maybe they’re hoping he’ll treat them to an impromptu rendition of Gold digger!
I don’t blame him. He’s unwell. I blame Kim for supporting the craziness.
He is an adult and responsible for his own behavior, regardless of his medical condition.
Went out for bowling and drinks with work colleagues last night. After the bowling and a few hours of drinking we went to a restaurant. At the restaurant two of my workmates and I got into a heated debate about politics (they’re pro Trump). It must’ve been loud because at some point I noticed that the rest of the restaurant went quite as we traded expletives. The argument culminated with me calling one of them a fuc#ing dog and emptying a glass of water in his face and then walking out. Hope I don’t end up getting sacked but if I do I’ll wear it like a badge of honour.
I don’t think they can fire you for something you did outside of work that’s not a work event. I have one friend from work who I spend time with but we do not discuss politics. I have figured out most of my co workers are conservative and/or Trump supporters. If my customers say something political, I smile, nod, as if I agree and change the subject. I’m in an area of trump supporters : (
Yes. That’ll be my argument if they try to sack me. The bowling happened from 3:30-5pm on paid work time. When the bowling was over a few people left and the rest of us kicked on to the restaurant. This was on our own time as we weren’t being paid to be there. So I don’t think work has the authority to sack me for it without facing a claim of unfair dismissal. I’ll talk to the union about it on Monday. They’ll know how the workplace laws apply in situations like this.
I called the union for advice. The person I spoke with said that it could be argued that the time at restaurant could be deemed an extension of the work gathering at the bowling alley.
But on the other hand I could also argue that we weren’t being paid to be at the restaurant so it couldn’t be considered work time. He also said the my employer might have to take some of the responsibility for allowing us to drink at a work event.
He also mentioned work could consider it an issue if the other guy and I have to work together but I told him I don’t see him very often because we work at different sites.
So all in all I’m thinking that it’ll blow over. Guess I’ll find out for sure when I go back to work tomorrow. Or if someone from work calls me later today.
And Im sure they did anyway…
I don’t agree that this is just a result of his bipolar disorder. I think he’s very much aware of the money making potential behind religion, especially in America. He’s always been religious, and he’s always been egotistical, so I don’t see this as particularly out of step for him in any capacity.
I have such a hard time with this. I feel like Kanye has been cancelled for a while; I have major issues with his views of women and politics and supporting trump, and I think he’s an egomaniac.
But I’m also a Christian, and believe in the power of God to transform lives. If we (Christians) were skeptical of every new believer, we’d be going directly against the gospel that we profess to believe. With Kanye, I feel like giving him some grace and encouragement is good… I would never go to him for spiritual guidance but I’m cautiously willing to see how this goes for him. I hope he’s surrounded by strong believers rooted in the Bible, and it sounds like he’s got a pastor that is mentoring him.
These rules for his workers are bonkers. He’s not running a Christian company, where you can have a code of conduct that people agree to follow. It seems massively hypocritical, too. But I could see it like an alcoholic not wanting alcohol around his workplace, in a sense.
On another note, my dad has serious mental illness, but he’s also highly religious. When he’s well, his faith brings comfort and a routine and community. When he’s in psychosis it’s so hard for him to differentiate between faith and auditory hallucinations. He always devolved to thinking God or Satan are telling him to do things. I’ve heard this isn’t uncommon. With Kanye, I’m not sure he’s well right now, so that makes me worry that this is going to go off the rails. But I hope he is well and stable. I hope he’s in treatment and taking medication for his sake and everyone around him.
Kanye is hardly a new believer though. He’s spoken at length throughout his entire career about how his faith is a huge influence on his life. Even his earliest music has spoken about his religion. So this isn’t new for him. It’s just an extension of his existing self.
He has made Jesus into his next brand product. Praise the Lord.