In this political era in America, every single political conversation seems like some kind of subtweet of Donald Trump. Even when we’re discussing something completely unrelated to Trump, there’s still that fat, baby-handed shadow cast over everything. Something similar has happened with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. They’re the big conversation, and it feels like even when anyone is trying to have a conversation about the Queen, or Prince Charles or the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, it’s some kind of subtweet about Meghan in particular. When Prince Charles’ latest documentary aired, people were literally saying “he understands his duty MORE THAN MEGHAN.” When Kate and William were on tour in Pakistan, everything became a “they’re doing it better than the Sussexes” subtweet too. So… even though Harry and Meghan are not mentioned in this interview, it feels like they’re the real subject:
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are a ‘perfect’ ‘golden couple’, according to Princess Margaret’s closest confidante Lady Anne Glenconner. Lady Anne Glenconner, 87, told the Times that Prince William, 37, and Kate Middleton, 37, are ‘absolutely splendid’ and ‘just right for the younger generation’.
The former lady-in-waiting also revealed how the couple told her they ‘loved’ holidaying on private island Mustique, which was owned by Lady Glenconner’s late husband Colin Tennant. She said: ‘They said how much they enjoyed Mustique because its so private. We’ve got turtles now and evidently George and Charlotte loved it.’
Lady Glenconner grew up living next to Queen Elizabeth and her sister Princess Margaret at Holkham Hall, which neighboured Sandringham. She became great friends with Margaret, and was her lady-in-waiting until the royal’s death in 2002. She has also known Prince William and Prince Harry since they were children, even bathing the boys together when they were young.
She called Prince William and Kate ‘absolutely splendid’ together and added that they were a ‘golden couple’. She added that she holds ‘great admiration’ for them both.
A great admiration for William and Kate… and no one else, obviously. THEY are the golden couple, or should we say, the white couple. Which makes them perfect and splendid and “just right” for younger people. Do these people even remember the conversations we were having about William and Kate before Meghan came around? They were too dowdy, too work-shy, too reticent. William would throw tantrums at staff and media, they were hemorrhaging staff. But now they can do no wrong. Now they are perfectly golden white.
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When I saw that title the first thing I wanted to ask was if “golden couple” meant white, but as I read your analysis I see you agree with me that it does. How gross.
The stuff about Kate and William being “just right” for the younger generation was interesting IMO. It just really shows that what many people still consider the ideal marriage is one in which the wife keeps her mouth shut, lets the husband have the spotlight, and never ever outshines him.
It’s hilarious that this is what all the old people think this is why the young people need and want.
And turns a blind eye to the cheating.
The lady is an 87 year-old aristocrat. I very much doubt that she has any kinda feel for either the common people or the young people.
The market for 87 year old tastemakers is way underserved. Thank goodness this lady is out here giving the youngsters what they want.
@Becks I think the PR about Wills & Kate being ‘just right’ is being put out precisely for the opposite reason. The Cambs have made huge issue of being seen as relateable off late to the extent that they have actively fanned the flames of the alleged backlash against Meghan/Harry.
I agree with @Kaiser that this has clear political undertones…. Essentially in pandering so heavily to the media to help them in their smear campaign, the Camb’s have HEAVILy aligned themselves with right wing media. It allows them to maintain the stronghold of power with palace courtiers and those in power, but it leaves them very vulnerable in respect of the organisations / charities they work with …
On the flip-side Meg and Harry appear extremely approachable. So it’s like Trump winning the electoral college whilst Hilary wins the popular vote. Very reminiscent of Princess Diana’s approach to be the Princess of Hearts…
@mignionette I’m not sure I understand what you are saying. That this is being put out to make people think Kate and Will are the “golden couple” because they know the public does not view them as such? I don’t necessarily disagree with that. But I do think there is a large group of people who think that Kate is the perfect wife because she’s basically a Stepford wife at this point.
@Becks – I think we’re saying the same thing but my post was a little convoluted.
Essentially Bill and Katy have a very establishment type appeal.
Meg and Henry appeal more to younger Brits.
Bill and Katy have spotted a fundamental flaw in their plan for UK domination cue the soundbites and opinion pieces lamenting how relateable they are and how they’re the much loved couple. Basically if they want to go on living in their castle / palaces they need to ensure they’re liked…
@mig – ah, I get your point. And yes, I agree completely. This is sort of the counterpoint to the smear campaign. Its not enough to just trash the Sussexes. They have to amp up the Cambridges at the same time, and to make them appeal to the masses.
@Mignionette you are right, they are out of touch with the people they serve. And dressing up like average joe doesn’t cut it when we know behind closed doors behind the scenes they are living like multimillionaire royals. Fakes don’t appeal to the younger generation.
Come on Celebitches! The 10th Annual One Young World events just recently wrapped. The DDOS of Sussex made worldwide news and had successful outings. Aren’t we curious that we are now being fed this puff piece telling us not to believe our eyes and ears but instead believe that the DDOW are the “true champions of today’s youth”. Please wake up!!
@Mignonette, I don’t think that Will and Kate want to be relatable or appealing to the same segment of the population that Harry and Meghan appeal to. Like the Queen and the rest of the people around her, they’re hedging their bets by trying to make themselves palatable to the more conservative section of society, because those people can generally be relied upon to support the continued existence of the monarchy. It’s so stupid because why wouldn’t you want to convince the sort of people who may not be a fan of the monarchy but adore Meghan? I know at least a dozen people who are firmly republican (small r) but have found a soft spot for Meghan, to the point where they have to preface every defence of her with, “I don’t support the monarchy, BUT.” If Meghan is out here bringing more support for the monarchy (in a fashion) from people who might not have supported them before, isn’t that a good thing? Isn’t that what they want? What this tells me isn’t that the courtiers and everyone else is stupid. This tells me that the people around W&K and everyone else have a very specific idea of what the monarchy should be and who it should appeal to. And it’s one that doesn’t include people who are fans of Meghan and Harry.
@A The firm puts out two different narratives for the couples to cover more bases. If you like the underdog biracial woman who had to work hard and fight all her life, they’ve got Meghan for you. If you like your royals to be conservative snobby and lavish we got Kate. It’s a win win.
They are just *white* for the younger generation.
Lol!
Nailed it!
You wascal 😆
Honestly, I read this and my first thought wasn’t the Sussexes. It was, “oh, he totally had that affair and they all know it.”
Lol, right!
Also, who the hell boasts being friends with Margaret, by most accounts she didn’t seem like a great person. Then again, the Windsors have few they can boast in the realm of ‘good people’.
…birds of a feather
This! Margaret was a notorious…asshole.
And probably more importantly, not only did he have that affair, but it was also a lot more emotional than ones I assume he’s had previously. I do not believe for one minute he’s been faithful to Kate.
And you are correct, Kaiser, that it was the addition of Meghan that changed the narrative from the wastrel Cambridges. I do not dispute that racism is at the core of Meghan’s mistreatment, but if something shifts (like when Fergie joined the family, then left, then Diana left etc) it’ll toggle to embiggening Meghan and Harry.
The press is stupid in a lot of ways.
Same. It’s almost like the media/the palace is bringing people like this woman out to try to convince the public that W&K are a perfectly happy pair with no problems whatsoever.
I agree the press is bringing out this woman to throw Sussex shade. She’s 87 and her husband owned Mustique (does she own it now?). She was probably approached under the guise of talking about the island and the Cambridges, and she saw it as an opportunity to sell her island to guests, so to speak. Also, she probably was only asked about WK, and the press twisted it to have the vibe of ONLY WK. she does mention she likes Harry- there’s some kind of quote I read about both “boys” being great- so she might have even tried to avoid this angle. The press does indeed twist things to fit their own ideas.
I agree with those above that this is more about the affair than the sussexes… and I do also agree that bringing EVERY Kate (and Will but mostly Kate) story back to M&H is a bit unnecessary, even if you do love Meg. I hate how much this site pits them against each other, it’s actually pretty cruel and a lot of posters are guilty of the same bullying towards Kate that you cry over with Meghan. M&K are independent people and have totally different roles to fulfil and thus different public personas they need to project – Kate is NOT meant to be feisty,
opinionated and woke. She is meant to be stoic, reliable and perhaps a bit bland so we can project our own feelings on to her, like we do with the queen (because no one actually knows what she thinks or feels) But yeah I think they killed the affair story and now it’s about convincing people they are perfect, thank you. I think they want their marriage to be seen as a solid, QEII and Phillips style marriage for the ages in prep for when they eventually take over the crown.
Please go back read this site before Meghan was on the scene. Kate has been criticized on here for years, rightfully, for her laziness, games, and unprofessionalism.
This site isn’t pitting Kate vs. Meghan. Now that Meghan is here, the 180 by the press and “fans” is obvious, which is what this site and the long-time posters point out. Throwing the new girl under the bus to make Kate look better is not only obvious, but the way it is done is blatantly racist.
Kate is meant to be bland, lazy, and stoic? Please go see Maxima, Mary, Letizia, Daniel, Mette-Marit, and the other married-in consorts or future consorts. Kate is the unfortunate exception, not the rule.
Camilla is not a radical activist and yet she does a lot of great work for victims of sexual assault. She has also advocated against FGM. There is a lot Kate could work on that wouldn’t be viewed as political but she just doesn’t care to do so. William may be part of the reason but she also didn’t do any charity work pre engagement when she had plenty of time to do so.
Being praised to be silent and submissive is actually offensive and dangerous for most women.
I don’t think that this website is necessarily pitting Kate and Meghan against each other in this instance. I’m not saying this doesn’t happen at all, but the reason people are relating this article to Meghan and Harry is because there has been a lot of indications that the Cambridges are tacitly encouraging negative press for the express purpose of making themselves look better in contrast. People are viewing this article in light of that, so the comparison here isn’t baseless.
I didn’t say she should be lazy I said she should be bland, vanilla, inoffensive, whatever. She grew up in England, definitely idolising the princes – like a lot of girls her age- and she is playing the long game, has been for a long time. Best way for her to do that is to not rock the royal boat. Women OBVIOUSLY shouldn’t be submissive and I’m not trying to praise her for that so I’m sorry if that’s what it sounded like. She signed up to the institution and, in my opinion, she’s now doing a pretty good job playing the role how they want her to. Also, if it were me I absolutely wouldn’t be throwing myself into public engagements pre-marriage, the press would have annihilated her. Which they did do a lot in the beginning, as they did with Camilla too. But they’ve played a long PR game, run entirely by the palace. Meghan and Harry don’t want to play that game. They’ve said it themselves, that just means they have a longer battle on their hands because the role is niche and I think it’s hard to get it right. All my opinion.
@Suzy Webster, fwiw, I do agree w/ your take on Kate. She’s bland and boring, but effective in terms of stability and longevity. It took almost a decade for Camilla to get anywhere close to the acceptance she gets now, and even that is just plain ambivalence on the part of the public. I don’t agree that she does this because she grew up idolizing princes & wants to not rock the boat as a result. I think she does this because this is the MO of the royal family at large. They want to represent continuation, stability, and blandness, and Kate is perfectly in keeping with that. I think a lot of this is a reaction to what happened with Diana. There was a lot of talk at the time Will and Kate got married that the royals really needed this marriage to work for a change, and I think the two of them are also conscious of that.
And people have replied to you that none of the other consorts or future consorts are bland or vanilla. They’re doing good jobs representing their countries and institutions, doing their royal work, raising their kids. While being fully formed, interesting humans with personalities and with demonstrated passion for helping others.
@A thank you, and yeah you’re probably right re idolising the princes – I was maybe thinking of myself when I was younger haha! I just wonder if having grown up watching the RF and being so close in age to them may have contributed to her willingness to accept what the RF want of her but just theorising. Maybe it’s just who she is. I think your comment was bang on the money. I think they probably even went so far as to actively encourage Will to marry Kate, like they did with Diana. I think her “normal girl next door” status (which of course she isn’t but in their terms) was also probably helpful for them in appearing more relatable. Maybe thats why they seem to protect her a lot more? IDK.
The Windsors were not looking to ally themselves with the party tat family with the shady uncle. The Queen had the courtiers leak the comments about, “What does she do all day”. Charles was said to give him the same talk Philip gave him, “Marry her or dump her, you’re ruining her reputation”. That precipitated the big public breakup of 2007. Kate and the Middletons were never the Windsor’s choice.
The blandness of Kate is not appealing to the masses, and even if it was, it in no way excuses her eight years of royal laziness. Anyone William married was going to be protected because of heir vs. spare treatment.
@nota, respectfully, I think you’re missing the point here. I don’t think the fact that people think Kate is bland matters as much to the royal family as much as it might matter to some people. Their first priority is stability and longevity, and the best way to ensure that is to be boring and not have too many opinions. You can be different, but within a certain limit, and certainly not in any way that might be perceived as alienating members of your own family.
You can say a lot of things about Kate. She’s bland. She’s boring. Her family’s shady. She doesn’t do much. But the one thing you cannot say about her is that she isn’t reliable in her own way. And THAT is key. It’s about demonstrating consistency. And Kate has always been consistent insofar as her public image goes. You can always count on her to show up for her 60 odd engagements in a year, dressed in the exact same silhouette, with her hair down, and her eyeliner on. When she got engaged with William, people weren’t blindsided, they figured that that is how it’s going to go because she’s been with him for 10 years. She’s always been demonstrably reliable, in her own way, and I think that that is something the RF was desperate for at the time when she married in. And the Queen is that way too. She doesn’t have much of a personality, but she’s always there, with her hat and her coat and her brooches and her gloves and her shoes and her handbag. She’s not going to come out of left field and surprise you, because the RF isn’t about that. They’re about representing continuation, eternity, and stability. I think we all have our personal feelings about Kate, but bringing all of that up in a larger conversation about what the RF wants to represent itself as is, as I said, missing the point.
I just don’t get what there is to admire about these two.
Like them if you want (but why?), but I really don’t see any reason to hold anything better than complete indifference for them.
Yup. She got a university degree and proceeded to do nothing with it, save for a make-busy job her parents’ friends gave her for a few days a week, that lasted a few months. He did some military service, in which he actually gained a valuable skill, but once that was completed has flitted about doing this and that. Their aversion to work is so great that they have to be coaxed and wheedled to show up to BAFTA, a super-cool patronage….imagine how they feel about the non-glam patronages that do difficult work.
In this day where many people put themselves in debt go to university in hopes of getting a great job and instead are faced with the gig economy, their privilege and laziness disgusts me. I don’t expect them to dig ditches, but there’s no reason they can’t do an event a day, like Princess Anne seems to be averaging.
How can you say such a thing? Look at all they’ve accomplished at such young ages. They’ve been keen on so many things.
Oh wait.
Exactly
Rose who? …lol… Gosh they look so contrived, forced and stiff in that first pic 🙄 these two have the chemistry of two dead, cold fish. It feels as if they were trying really hard to hide the repulsion they have for each other but stand together to keep up appearances. “Golden couple” my butt! The price is too high just to be the future lonely queen on the throne, but Kate chose it. I’d rather have a loving, loyal man.
It’s getting truly nauseating. All of the Daily Fail commenters are in staunch agreement, of course. What is there to admire about any of these people? They’re not Nobel Prize winners. They were just born into or married into money. 🤦🏼♀️
I honestly cannot believe their love of Mustique doesn’t turn more heads in all their “normalcy”. They are literally vacationing on a private island that “normal” people can neither afford nor are invited to, and yet we’re constantly fed articles about how it’s such a lovely family vacation for the deserving Cambridges. WTAF?
Yes, the Mustique bit is especially tone deaf.
Right!? And Glenconner was a notorious libertine wild man. He was like Lord Byron 2.0.
They’re boring but that’s maybe what is best for the monarchy I don’t know.
I’m sure the monarchy thinks so. They all have a pretty sweet gig with some big downsides, but the benefits tend to outweigh those. Anyone involved in the monarchy wants to ride this out for as long as possible.
Being boring isn’t the problem, being lazy is.
Old rich white woman who benefits from massive privilege talks up young rich white couple who benefit from massive privilege.
Yawn, okay.
Yeah nothing she said was surprising…
In other news, water is wet.
Exactly. This isn’t a subtweet about anyone or anything. It’s just one old rich woman’s opinion. Who cares?
I believe she’s also promoting either her autobiography or a book about Margaret – I heard her being interviewed on the Today programme (BBC Radio 4) last week and she talked about growing up with the princesses, how her husband developed Mustique and other events from her life. She wasn’t asked about and didn’t mention the younger Royals.
What I wonder is if someone associated with the rf encouraged this woman to talk to the press.
I don’t know about encouraged, but I think we all know her interview was at least approved. I don’t think you remain as close to the royals as she apparently has been for her entire life without knowing when to talk to the press and when to keep your mouth shut.
It wouldn’t surprise me, considering her age, if SHE was “approached” by some of TQ/Charles’ courtiers and given this “statement” to put out in her name.
She has a book out
Yes of course, Aristos number 1 rule is to never talk to the press, ever. Everything remains within that circle. My guess is KP probably gave her a small wad of cash for their sound bite. Why else would she talk to the press, she wouldn’t just call them up for no reason just to talk about how great W+K are.
Without disputing that the Royals play the PR game, she’s promoting a book she’s written. The interviewer might have asked her about the Cambridges in the hope she had some insider knowledge, but they weren’t the reason for the interview.
If she was promoting a book then fair enough. But I do still whiff the smell of KP here.
It makes me laugh when people proclaim this dowdy middle aged couple as representing the younger generations – its far from the truth. The reality is that the Cambridge’s represent the stereotypical Brexit supporter, not something I’d brag about.
These people need to cover their asses, their racism is showing. Maybe she should cover up with a Rose bush.
On what planet is 37 considered middle age? Unless you’re 12 or we’re back in the 1600s.
ummm…British life expectancy is 80 years, so 37 is right on the early cusp of middle age.
I think Rose’s bush has caused enough trouble, don’t you?
There’s a perfect gif for this comment:
“Yep.”
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d8/4e/e9/d84ee9de5d1e4cf04942f45630da9e93.gif
😉
undergalaxy: that GIF is everything!
Side note why does Kate grin so insanely? it’s not a normal smile by any standards.
Shes trying to look warmer. You know, like the Duchess of Sussex.
Over compensation. See how exciiiiiiiiiited I am to be here? Seeeeee!!!
Oh, good point.
😀 I love being here pretending to understand and join in! 😀
lol….exactly!
It’s so pathetically sad, that after all their years together, she STILL looks at William for approval, EVERY. DAMN. TIME. they’re together at an event. It’s like a puppy, who’s been scolded and is now trying to curry favor with its master.
This is something that really irritates me about her. Kate is so subservient.
I’ve wondered if she looks to him in the hope that he would look back at her and smile, so they might have an intimate “loving couple” moment on camera. Only he doesn’t look at her during those moments (or with much affection) so it’s constantly her looking at him.
It’s hard to tell if this is his character or just down to a lack of interest. If you watch the wedding video, he does the same thing at the altar. He’s very wooden and barely turns to acknowledge Kate as she arrives at the altar. I remember watching that in 2011 and thinking how strange it was. I was not really a Royal Watcher then (more a Diana fan) .
And then there are pictures of him around other women when he was younger and he seems far more interested / animated, basically alive.
I think Bill made a choice (i.e. settled) in the end and in doing so decided that Kate was his best bet as he was not too emotionally enmeshed and therefore would be able to put his position (i.e. The Crown) above her. Harry has never had that limitation and so it was easier to choose Meghan.
Didn’t she also ask Bill, at the altar, if he was happy? It seemed odd at the time.
She’s subservient because Carole taught Kate that it was the way to catch and keep Wild Willie. It lets him know that he’s always the Boss- always right no matter what. What a way to live…
I just rewatched their vows on YouTube. Not ONCE does Will look directly into Kate’s eyes. No loving looks, etc. It’s just so….stiff.
There was a bit in the wedding where (according to a lipreader) the following exchanges happened. I have no idea if this is true:
12:15 p.m. — William to Kate Middleton: “Alright?”
Kate Middleton: “Yes.”
William: “Wish I was out.”
Kate Middleton: “I’m beginning to find (unclear).”
William: “Yeah, alright.” Hands bouquet to Kate after they climb aboard their carriage, “here you are.”
Kate Middleton: “Thank you.”
Kate Middleton: “Now, are you happy?”
William: “Yes … (unclear conversation) … wave to everybody.”
[later]
In wedding carriage — Kate Middleton to William: “You look happy.”
@undergalaxy, Not seen a transcript of their post-wedding conversation before…. very interesting….
@Moose I would take the transcript with a huuuge pinch of salt – I think it was in the Daily Fail and republished by CBS, and I don’t believe it’s been seen elsewhere.
But if it’s true then… it’s sad.
I’ve always wondered whether that and the over-the-top laughing was for the camera’s benefit.
Like how many funny things is she encountering at these events? It seems like all she does is laugh and smile like a hyena the entire time.
It wouldn’t be weird, but she’s consistently the only one laughing so raucously in a group of people who are barely smiling. It just rings false.
It’s definitely for the cameras. There’s a clip from the early 2010s of her, Will, and Harry at an engagement (a bike marathon in particular I think). Someone crashed and she made a ‘shocked’ face and held that expression with her hand oddly positioned in the air for several seconds…as if she was posing.
i’ve only started noticing this performative laugh from her since Meghan came on the scene and started being praised for her warmth and her smiles.
That bike video was hilarious. Kate looked like an actor in a silent film. “Look of deep concern pose! Hold it for 10, 9, 8. . .”.
There’s a picture of her a few years ago with some Air Cadets where she’s cracked up laughing and they’re standing around looking… well, not cracked up.
It’s the same visit where she kept pulling her trousers up and out of her bumcrack and you could see she had no knickers on.
Not sure if I can link but look at the boys faces haha – http://www3.pictures.stylebistro.com/gi/Kate+Middleton+Outerwear+Blazer+x8bHgM6pV_bl.jpg
I feel like she’s been doing the exaggerated laughing/smiles since before Meghan came on the scene. I always put it down to being very uncomfortable and ill at ease with the attention.
He literally just got low-key busted on for cheating. 🙄
The BRF and courtiers just need to stop. They look foolish and like amateurs at this point.
“They look foolish and like amateurs at this point.” ….completely correct. They’re untrustworthy and move like a nest of vipers in a barrel of crabs. These courtiers leak information like a sieve and turn on whomever is most convenient. I know Harry & Megan know what’s up but unfortunately, I don’t think Will & Kate are smart enough to know they’ll turn on them too when necessary.
I think they know but they’re just glad it’s not them right now…. Kate has looked so relaxed since Meg joined the RF and took her place as the nations punching bag.
I mean, they’re fine. They’re boring and blank masks that “the little people” can project their own thoughts onto. She’s thin and reasonably pretty and appears to love her husband and family, he’s Diana’s son who would have made her a princess again. They’re bland and smile a lot. They never say or do anything that will set the world on fire. But I sincerely believe that he married her because he had no other true options and they’re merely good friends. She will never divorce him as long as he doesn’t embarrass the everloving shit out of her.
IA on everthing except on the divorce part. I don’t see her divorcing him ever.
Agree with both of you. He’s already embarrassed her – the constant cheating. She either genuinely doesn’t care, or has such negligible self-esteem that she feels like she deserves it.
I’m not advocating cheating by any means but if you were married to someone as boring as Kate, who struggles to get words out of her mouth due to a terrible fake accent, I’d get why you’d do it. Of course he’s an arse so if it turns out SHE cheats too then I’d understand that as well.
@undergalaxy
I get that this site is notoriously anti-Kate (and this thread is a pretty good indication) but blaming her for her husband’s cheating is a bit much. If he finds her so ‘boring’ then he should not have married her and had children with her. That’s on him.
IF William cheats, it is because he’s a douche. It is not Kate’s fault if he strays.
“I’m not advocating cheating by any means but if you were married to someone as boring as Kate, who struggles to get words out of her mouth due to a terrible fake accent, I’d get why you’d do it. ”
That’s a really sad take. And knowing that there are a lot of women on this site dealing with different things in their personal lives like cheating and divorce and whatever else, it’s really not a good look. Cheating always lies with the cheater. End of story.
I always laugh at the comments like “ugh what would they even talk about, she’s so boring” when it comes to Kate. While I definitely wouldn’t call her especially exciting or anything, it makes me wonder what kind of relationships people have with their friends groups. I’ve never chosen a friend based on how exciting they were, and I don’t expect to constantly have riveting conversations with everyone I come into contact with. I don’t need to be debating in-depth topics to enjoy someone’s company. Sometimes it’s nice to just chat about what tv show you’re binge-watching, ya know?
William cheated with her. He cheated on her for 10 years before the wedding. She knows this about him and she married him anyway.
@Erinn I’m not talking about whose fault it is (as it’s William’s…).
I’m saying that having to try and spend the majority of your time with someone who has come out time and time again with idiotic comments or who looks for constant approval would drive most people to go elsewhere.
Kate barely talks in public. Kate has said enough boring, ill-thought out or stupid things (the smell of the tea, streetkids in India, faberge eggs) to make up a large amount of what she HAS been heard to say in public, ergo I think she is shallow.
William’s as thick as two short planks too. But he’s bullheaded and spoiled. Someone making stupid comments AND constantly wanting approval would probably drive him insane.
And yet, William married her, and continues to stay married to her. If your spouse drove you up the wall in the way you’re suggesting here, what exactly would be the incentive for someone like Will to stay in the marriage, let alone get married to begin with? If she annoys him so much, he could just as easily leave her. No one is forcing him to stay married and cheat. It’s not as if divorce is not an option.
She and the Middletons provide cover, allowing him to live as he wants as long as he doesn’t get caught. See his moves to immediately cover up Rose, the lawsuit threats, the reporters tweeting they legally ordered to silence things up. As long as he doesn’t get caught, he gets what he wants and they get what they want.
There’s no way K is boring in bed though. There is a hilarious clip where she unbuttons a mans shirt in 2 seconds flat without looking down at his shirt to see where her fingers or the buttons are. Will made a funny snarky quip. I should add it’s a male dummy and they were at a hospital i think for a medical demonstration. Even before the marriage she was feisty. When it comes to cheating it’s not always about sex but I do hope Kate is getting some action on the side. She’s a flirty little thing, her heart eyes around Ben Ainslie are cute & you could tell Will was jealous lmao. Hope she grows a backbone & sneaks in a bit of hunky time for herself. Moulding yourself into a boring Queen Consort for the sake of the future monarchy/stability, doesn’t mean you can’t have fun behind closed doors. Kate should take a page out of Rose’s book. Live the glam, dutiful life in public, then play without getting caught, in private. Camilla could also teach her a thing or two! Why should the men be allowed to have all the fun?? These power marriages aren’t built on love, anyway. And the aristos aren’t the only ones, there are plenty of political/billionaire/multi millionaire marriages where loyalty, discretion and family come first. Who needs true love (like life is a fairytale movie!) when you can be swimming in the most magnificent jewels, diamonds, the finest estates, and couture, without worrying about anything else, ever again.
She won’t divorce him, but if he ever decides to divorce her, the floodgates of info about the Middletons will be opened. The entire Palace machine will ensure he comes out looking like Diana’s Golden Son again.
Uncle Gary will have to live on Mars if that happens.
They’ve been together 18 years. She could write a book. Maybe it will be Kate who blows the RF into the 21st century.
Kate doesn’t even write her own letters to charities or intros to books. Carole write a book, sure, but not Kate.
Okay, good point.
I remember seeing a clip from some stuffy old man (cannot remember his name but I think he was a journalist) and his theory on W&K was perfectly summed up. He said something along the lines of, “I think William cares about Kate a lot. I think he loves her, but he isn’t IN love with her. BUT he can trust her.” William picked Kate, I believe, because he knew she would put up with anything and play her role silently. The whole world knew Kate wanted nothing but William and that ring, so of course he knew it too. I do think he cares about her and probably loves her, but I’m with the stuffy journalist–this is not some great love affair where they still want to rip each other’s clothes off. I don’t know about Kate, but I think for William that ship has definitely sailed.
In summation, these reporters and sources and everyone else sound so foolish and as if they are trying to convince themselves. And I agree with a poster above…they are trying so, so hard to forget about Rose. Because that totally happened.
I’m not usually a Kate defender, but I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to assume that her personality is what we, the public, see. I’m sure she’s completely different behind closed doors with her family. I think it’s a shame she doesn’t show more of herself to the public, but she’s clearly made the decision to not do that.
If William cheats, that’s 100% on him and has nothing to do with her. I’ve always believed that while he loved her, he isn’t “in love” with her, but she was totally in love with him. I wonder if that’s still true, though, because he treats her with such obvious disdain. She’ll never leave him, but the way he acts toward her must wear on her after all of these years. It would sure take a heavy emotional toll on me, even if I never let it show in public.
And even if he never cheated, he’s still embarrassed her, IMO. He never looks lovingly at her like she does at him, he cringes when she’s speaking publicly, and many more examples I can’t think of off the top of my head. I would feel sorry for her, but this is clearly what she wants and has chosen for herself, so.
Of course the 87 year old aristocrat thinks she knows what is best for the younger generation.
PBS did a documentary on Princess Margaret and I believe Lady Glenconner was one of the people interviewed. Given her comments and attitudes expressed in the documentary not surprised at what she’s saying here. It was basically royals should only marry their own kind and cheating is to be expected….deal with it.
I bet you that if this lady was interviewed in 2008 she would have taken issue with Kate’s coal mining background because at that point there was no biracial duchess to shade.
Lmao. If royals only married their own kind, they’d all go the way of the Spanish Habsburgs = inbred out of existence.
This gal just released a book of memoirs which highlighted Margaret quite a bit. It also featured her husband and Mustique and the stories there. There were excerpts released and… wow. Just wow. And not in a good way.
Exactly, ArtHistorian. As if modern royals need more hemophilia, porphyria, and Habsburg jaws. But some royals are still marrying first cousins.
I’m still creeped out by the fact that Ex-King Constantin descends from King Christian IX on both his maternal and paternal side + his wife Ex-Queen Anne-Marie descends from Christian IX as well on her paternal side. And that is not even mentioning the fact that she was a teenager when they got together.
HM and Philip are both second and third cousins to each other. Eugenie and Jack are third cousins, too. The King of Tonga married his second cousin. Many of the extended no-longer-legally-royals with three last names are still intermarrying with each other.
The Constantine/Anne-Marie marriage felt like, if not arranged, then he picked someone who would have been selected as an arranged match for him. Isn’t there talk Benedikte was crazy about Harald of Norway, and waited for him to give up on getting permission to marry a commoner? She finally married Richard SWB when Harald got permission to marry Sonya after nine years. At least Margrethe looked outside of royal circles for her husband.
The Constantin/Anne-Marie marriage was not arranged. When Constantin approached King Frederik IX about a marriage, the king got really flustered, said he needed to talk to his wife and promptly locked up Constantin in the bathroom. Anne-Marie was really set on this marriage, so her parents compromised with her and had her wait until she turned 18. She was 16 when Constantin wanted to marry her.
I’ve never heard the Benedikte/Harald of Norway story. I have read somewhere that Queen Ingrid supported Harald’s wish to marry Sonja.
Not arranged, but to me it felt like Juan-Carlos and Sofia of Spain. He conveniently fell for a royal woman of suitable age, not a commoner. A teenage romance with big world, long-time consequences. I think they were happy at the beginning (even with the revolution), and are happy in their retirement, but there are also plenty of rumors of his infidelity through the years. Like how Paola and Albert of Belgium were a mess of anger and cheating for decades, but are content together now.
The timing of Benedikte’s marriage (Feb 1968) and the announcement of Harald’s engagement (March 1968) is what makes me think there was something to that rumor. Add the less-than-happy marriage of Benedikte and Richard, while Harald and Sonya are still giddy about each other like Margrethe and Henrik were.
It could be Benedikte decided she wanted to be a queen, since both her sisters were going to be (Queen Regnant, Queen Consort). Harald was the only unmarried heir left, so she waited until she was told through channels that he was off the market.
‘Coal miner background’ loool sounds like classism…. where I come from, the paternal side matters the most, as it does with the aristocracy. Kate Middleton is upper middle class English stock from her paternal side. Her paternal grandfather was a pilot for the Royals, they knew him well.
Was anyone around in 2011? The entire selling point was that Kate was supposedly a commoner and Carole’s side in particular was outlined to show that Kate was one of the people. Of course it is classist, along with the entire concept of royalty, which makes the constant attacks on the American biracial duchess accused of constantly breaking protocol for things other white royals have done so tedious. This old bitty would not have been part of the crowd to celebrate the commoner elements. She just has someone who is even more of an outsider to shade.
The 87 year old living off the proceeds of royals making and keeping Mustique popular. Bet this little chat was W&K hitting her up for permanent free vacation rentals on the island. Hint, we love it so much but it is so expensive, gosh, wish we could visit more often. Our children just love it, if only we could find a way they’d always be able to vacation here the rest of their lives.
Sort of unrelated, but wasn’t Mustique actually hemorrhaging money when Lord and Lady Glenconner first went all in on it? Something about plunging their entire family fortune into the business or whatever?
I don’t think she holds any financial interest in Mustique anymore. If I remember correctly, Lord Glenconner left the island to one of the male native employees there (which was revealed only when the will was read), and basically left her penniless at his death.
This is the couple Brexit Britain deserves.
The folks who voted for that mess are so easily controlled by the tabloids over there, you reap what you sow.
But half of us DIDN’T vote for it. We don’t want to be represented by white nationalists and rich idiots.
Yeah! It’s not fair! 🙁
Possible, but the majority that did vote voted for it. America is stuck with our mess, for not, but at least the majority of voters didn’t vote for him.
And half of us Americans didn’t vote for a rich idiot and white racist – but we’re stuck with Trump (for now). I guess that’s why I don’t understand how a modern country can have a monarchy – sure, elections can lead to people like Trump, but we can vote him out in 4 years (or remove him sooner, if he’s impeached). But a monarch stays for life. And the next monarch is chosen by birth, so the people won’t have any say in the next one either.
Just like Trump is the president the US deserve? Okay…
As an American I can unequivocally say yes he is the POTUS our country deserved. Just as Brexit is what Britain deserved. You reap what you sow politically and socially. Doesn’t mean things cant change or get better but it’s basically political karma on both sides of the pond.
Your comment makes me want to thank all the deities in the universe that Andrew Scheer did not win our election.
Both Trump and Brexit are the result of years and years of centrists insisting that awful people should be given a voice and a platform to broadcast their awful views and recruit more people to their awfulness, even if the things they’re saying is flat out lies. I’m not trying to be mean here, but I’ve grown up watching white Americans largely shrug their shoulders at racism, insisting that it’s “over” because the Civil Rights movement happened. Neither Britain nor America has ever had a proper reckoning with their histories, and that’s what’s caused both Brexit and Trump, and a lot of that has to do with the well-meaning white people in both countries who refused to listen to the alarm bells regarding the rising tide of right wing malcontents until it was too late.
@A, also insisting racism is over because Barack Obama was elected president. Riiiiiight….
Lol right for younger people? Yeah im sure the younger generation really admires William and kate. That’s why the one that said that is almost 90. 👍
When will this stop, for the love of…
It’s kind of hilarious that all these sources are saying Will and Kate are perfect for “the younger generation”. Younger than whom? I’m fairly sure anyone under 40 isn’t exactly stanning the bald man and his Chardonnay-with-ice-cubes wife.
Oh, I so love this comment! 😀
Yes I too agree with the expert opinions of a senile old woman who has spent her whole shelteree, blinded and assuming it is an HONOUR to be a servant to some other woman who did nothing of worthwhile in her life.
Hey, tell me more!
If you’re interviewing an 87yo about a young couple, you’re doing it wrong.
I have a theory since Courtiers are a sick bunch. Last night I watched Rosemary’s Baby, and saw Mia Farrow wearing the same dress that Kate wore after the birth of Price Louis. I used to think it was a coincidence, but now wonder if it’s possible that this dress was chosen for Kate ON PURPOSE to mock and embarrass her. Before Meghan came on the scene, these people would be sick enough to do that to a commoner.
I get what you’re saying (and I think there have probably been plenty of things behind the scenes in which Kate’s “commoner” roots have been preyed upon by courtiers – I imagine they were really snide about her in the early days) but if someone was trying to say that Louis is the spawn of the devil then I think it’s unlikely:
a) Because that’s undermining William
b) Because I think Kate chooses her outfits herself; Louis was born on St George’s Day and she probably thought “red and white flag = red and white dress” as she’s a simple theme dresser.
I think it has more to do with the fact that Diana wore a red dress with a white collar when Harry was born.
Kate has imitated most of Diana’s outfits after the birth of the children.
Which is absolutely the behaviour of someone healthily well-adjusted right.
I’m not sure if taking every stupid story about the Cambridge’s or other royals and meshing it with the Sussexes is smart. This story is one of the dumbest, an old white British aristocrat thinks the Cambridge’s marriage is golden, so what? How many people read this story to begin with. It’s beyond dumb. Giving stories like this air and the comments on a more pro- Meghan site belittle what is really going on with the Sussexes, and the racism she’s enduring. We trivialize the real issue with comments like Kate smiles too much it’s unnatural, and the Cambridge’s are boring. It makes some sound obsessed, conspiracy driven, and not logical. Plus this take seems like a reach since the Sussexes aren’t named in the story at all, and thank God for that. Again who cares when the real issue is much bigger than this crap.
@madsky
FACTS!!! Thank you for articulating this!
Comments like the one Lady Glenconner made serve as an example of that racism, no? It’s not always virulent, violent, anti-black bullsh-t. Sometimes it’s a genteel old aristocratic white lady who likely voted Tory her whole life, who owns eye watering amounts of land in the Caribbean, who is the definition of what counts as the establishment, talking about how the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are a “golden couple” at a time when the media is especially brutal towards H&M. What is left unsaid matters just as much here, and this lady is choosing her words very carefully in light of that.
@madsky: your comment is so on point, I wish I could upvote it. I’m scrolling through the comments thinking WHAT?
Question here. Does William have any signature project other than Heads Together? Charles has the Prince’s Trust. Harry has Sentebale and Invictus and that new Travelyst he’s trying to launch. What has William done?
Rose.
Heh.
Snort! 😀
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HT isn’t William’s project, it is the umbrella they threw over Harry’s existing mental health work and W&K tagged themselves in.
William created another umbrella org a few years ago to take credit for the work already being done by existing wildlife charities. Now he takes sideways credit for their work if they signed up as partner orgs. Oh, and he’s been the royal patron for Jecca’s pet wildlife charity for 2+ decades.
I think you’re being extremely generous to Harry with that, Notasugar. They all had and have charities and patronages that deal with mental illness/fitness from pretty early on, especially those that often deal with the different fallouts of mental health not being addressed (Action on Addiction, Action for Children, the Anna Freud Center, Place2Be, Centrepoint, etc). I’m not selling Harry’s achievements short but HT was one of those things that actually made sense for them to attempt, at least for joint fundraising and awareness.
Harry was the one who started with mental health long before, working with military mental health for years. Once he got good PR for it, after that W&K started picking up mental health related charities. Centrepoint is homelessness, not focusing on mental health. AoA is substance abuse, not mental health. Kate didn’t take on AfC and Freud until 2016, again proving my point.
HT was the umbrella put over things after a few years, which didn’t really go anywhere. Funds going to the Royal Foundation instead of to the charities directly, that ultimately didn’t help.
Reading through the financials for the Foundation, I can see why Meghan particularly might have wanted a split. The majority of the money coming in was from Harry and Meghan initiatives, but being expensed out often for things W&K took credit for. It will be very interesting to contrast the financial health of these two Foundations moving forward.
He spent years faffing around with that co-assistant helicopter pilot thing.
Let me go get my up chuck bucket
They are (and have been) so boring, my god. I barely paid any attention to royalty before Resilient Meghan came around
ditto!
*Yawns*
If a guy who cheats with a woman down the road is someone I aspire to be with, hard pass. I will never forget his cheating and disrespect.
It’s so over the top at this point with the praise of Waty and Willy. Imagine if this came out about Meg and Harry… the couriers would immediately issue a rebuff. This is sooo over the top. Good Iord.
They couldn’t find someone who DOESN’T remember the Blitz to up-talk these two? An octogenarian royal hanger-on is the best they could do? It’s interesting that she mentions how much they love Mustique as a positive. Mustique is practically a plantation where most of the Black people work to give rich White people the impression that ‘the Raj’ still exists. They can behave badly and treat the ‘natives’ any old way with NO consequences.
If I were Normal Bill and Keen Katie, I’d tell these people not to help me so much.
Oh, and…Rose who?
Golden couple???
Poor deluded old lady.
William and his silent partner are obviously going to be the end of the monarchy.
The times are against them, of course, and as they have not a minimum of charisma or intelligence between the two there is not a chance they will be able to fight the inevitable.
RIP, British monarchy, Charles will be your last breath and Wills your gravedigger.
Of course they are the golden couple. *eyeroll* Next!
The same crowd who worshipped Kate merely for being thin and white with a big blow-out hairdo neatly transitioned into worshipping her as the ultimate wife and mother. The fact that she never says the words feminism or gender equality make her aces in their book. Her whole keen platform is that the ills of society can be banished by just letting your kids play outside more preferably in a twee bespoke garden.
This is so accurate.
Even the whole “we’re just a regular middle class family like everyone else” is something of a bit, designed to appeal to the little England types who talk about wanting to bring back sterner punishments in school, the national service, and think that the curry from the Indian place down the street needs to be milder.
Meghan is really the best thing to happen to their image. Why they’d want to push her out is beyond me.
This is a rude awakening for the old guard which is why they’re dragging out someone from the era of the Empire to advocate for William and Kate. They’re feverishly pearl clutching because Meghan is a POC who is dynamic and represents change. The establishment wants things to remain the same with their lily white image and Harry and Meghan aren’t conforming.
That lady glenconner seems off in the head
This is the DM taking someone’s comments and using them to tweak Harry and Meghan. I totally expect more of this passive aggressiveness going forward with the lawsuit.
When have the Cambridges hemorrhaged staff? I know the housekeeper quit because she didn’t want to have to deal with both KP and Amner and they had a RPO leave early on, but they seem to hang onto staff for a while? Even the lady that was let go after her honeymoon was there for like seven years.
Also, for everyone pointing out how lazy Will and Kate were/are, there was a really interesting discussion on Pod Save the Queen last week (the episode about the documentary) about how Harry actually worked at the same rate or even less than Will during the peak Workshy Will criticism and frequently went AWOL on his Army gig (I’m assuming the desk job he took after coming back that he had to do in order to progress in the military) without his supervisors knowing where he was, but the press gave him a huge break about it because of his Army service and later Invictus and Sentebale. I also think this was when Harry had the better relationship with the press than Will. It’s interesting how that’s flipped once Harry was no longer willing to “play the game.”
Harry’s numbers are usually roughly consistent with Will (maybe off by 10 or 20) – some years are lower than others but typically its not a huge gap.
But Harry is not the future king, so I’m not sure why “harry doesn’t work as much as Will” comes up as much as it does here. William should work more. I think they all should work more – Harry, Kate – but William should outwork his wife and brother by a significant margin, and he just doesn’t.
(not including Meghan on that because we have no idea how she is going to be as a FT working royal, since she was newlywed, pregnant, maternity leave, etc.) I did find when I pored over the Court Circular a few weeks ago that it seemed many of her meetings were not counted on the CC (like we know she was having meetings ramping up to the Smart Set launch and launch of British Vogue) and those weren’t listed when I last checked.
With Harry, we all know the majority of time he put into Invictus wasn’t counted for years. Nor was all the time he worked with the designers, because he actually did, for the two gardens he had at Chelsea.
His numbers may be roughly equal to William’s, but then you add all the time with WWTW, Invictus Games, and Sentebale on top (most of which wasn’t counted in the CC for years).
Those behind the scenes meetings only started counting for Kate because her numbers were/are so bad. It is clear most of the work Meghan is doing is not being counted either.
It is like the few years Anne’s numbers are bigger than Charles’s. Anne does her engagements and goes home. Charles does his engagements, goes home and works on The Duchy, Poundbury, Dumfries House, The Prince’s Trust. Harry and Meghan are more in the mold of Charles with their work than William is.
I don’t understand the court circular at all. Who runs it, and why is it so inconsistent? Shouldn’t there be some set rules, i.e. if private meetings behind the scenes count, then they should count for everyone? Why are Kate’s listed and Meghan’s are not?
It seems to me that if it’s so unreliable it should just be disregarded completely, but people seem to treat it as the ultimate document concerning their work. Which makes no sense to me if it’s arbitrarily inaccurate.
They’ve lost a lot of office staff, assistants, long-time people like Jamie Lowther-P and Rebecca Deacon. They have two housekeepers, one for KP and one for Anmer. The one at Anmer and her husband quit after only five months. They hired a new woman who quit after two years. Their head of security went to work at a psych hospital instead of staying with them. We still have the mysterious removal of Sophie, who might end up being the scapegoat for KP leaks.
You’re believing tripe from the Mirror as to Harry’s work ethic? Nope, if Harry skipped out like William he would have been raked over the coals at the time. Revisionist history to falsely claim it now. These are the same tabloids who pretended Harry wasn’t working three days a week at MOD rehab while building Invictus Games at the same time. vs. William’s co-workers leaking about how he was never there, the reporter stood by their sources, and a William insider was installed at EAAA to stop the leaks about Throne Idle.
I know you want to always believe the best about Harry, Nota, but I genuinely believe that account, largely because Harry himself admits to being a bit of a mess emotionally and somewhat adrift in those years. I think there were a lot of people working hard behind the scenes to make BOTH princes look good, even Harry—maybe even especially Harry given that he seemed to struggle a bit with his purpose after leaving the army and before he met Meghan. Frankly, we have no idea how much work Harry did or didn’t do with Invictus early on aside from “spearheading” and being “greatly involved” which could really mean anything as people frequently point out here about the Cambridges’ work.
A lot of the employees you’ve referenced here were with the Cambridges for years, including Rebecca Deacon, and I’m not sure many of the departures greatly overlapped. I guess we don’t know about the less visible staff, but it just feels like a weird critique to level at them. Considering how low the pay is and how long the hours can be it’s surprising that there isn’t more turnover in ALL of the households.
Also—the press always rewards the royals who are willing to pander them. It’s really messed up, but that’s clearly the reality. Back then, Will was more aggressive toward them and Harry was meeting people like Arthur Edwards for drinks and chats and had a much more casual relationship with a number of the reporters. I still believe that the biggest reason the press turned on the Sussexes has less to do with the Cambridges and more to do with Harry denying them access to Meghan from the fiancé days—the press pool was so far from her at certain early events that some of the reporters speculated that it was to keep them from hearing anything she said to the public. The second they gave the press what they wanted and brought Archie out on the Africa tour, the coverage became super positive. I’m sure all of the Royal households duel with PR —that’s definitely the more intriguing and gossip-worthy angle—but Harry suddenly turning sour on the press and being outright (but understandably) rude (per a number of them) brought out the knives and skeletons the press largely kept in the closet. They still haven’t officially “met” Meghan one on one which I think made it a lot easier for them to dehumanize her and punish Harry with bad coverage. It made me sad to hear that Meghan wanted to reach out to the press and do the usual drinks mixer but Harry shot down that idea.
It made you “sad to hear” because you believe the tripe The Mirror is feeding you. The Mirror? No demands were made for private meetings with Kate, but it is wrong of Harry and Meghan not to have private BS fests with reporters? Multiple RRs have admitted they have Kate’s phone number and say they should have Meghan’s too. Why on earth? Doesn’t that give you any hints about leaks, access, and why the RRs are writing positive things about W&K but attacking Harry and Meghan? Like all the years Kate had Nichol and Tanna on speed dial. Can’t see the forest for the trees.
W&K are now trading access to their kids to get good press, like they used to do years ago when the RRs complained about not seeing the kids. If Harry and Meghan refuse to play that same set of games, they’re not wrong. They’re a hell of a lot smarter than W&K. Their child is a private citizen.
Harry has always been attacked in the press for the smallest of things, but he was still giving them a good show on tours. He stopped the off-the-record pub nights with reporters after they went full-in attacking Meghan from day one. If he hadn’t been showing up to work, it would have been front page, never covered up. Whether or not he felt adrift after leaving the Army, he was still putting in the work while William wasn’t. Three days a week volunteering at MOD rehab centre, Sentebale, building Invictus Games. The people from Invictus and MOD, even the people from the two Chelsea Gardens, are the ones on record about him being at all the meetings. Not vague, “oh but Kate works so much” comments mind you.
Two housekeepers in two years, one after only five months, and you try to explain that away. I remember the discussion on here about the job posting for that position, and how they were making that person do the work of five people. The second one’s friends even went on record about how overworked she was by W&K. And yet the other households, even if they over work their employees as much, aren’t losing staff as frequently. It says something about W&K as employers if you listen.
@lexa like you said Harry has always had a good relationship with the royal reporters. However he would never have just turned on them on a whim. Most of these RR have picked their side, it’s evident. He knows more than we do what’s really going on, and knows the fact that they have pretty much been bought off to slander them any way they can whilst raising the Cambridge’s. He’s not going to let them near him now, because they will take everything he says and does and twist it into a negative. The press only have themselves to blame, they can’t have it both ways, if they want access to the Sussex’s then they need to show fair unbiased coverage.
@Lexa: I really appreciate your comments on these threads and I agree, this is only the beginning of another smear campaign due to the law suit. So I’m suprised so many comments are about superficial stuff like Kate’s smile or William’s egghead.
Anyways, IMO the tabloids will be way more subtle this time.
That was Richard Palmer as a source which means it’s total garbage.
You don’t set up the Invictus Games and become a skilled Chinook pilot while being workshy whereas Will was called out for workshy about his helicopter job and his royal duties and Kate mentioned in Australia that he wasn’t around a lot for George’s first six months.
Funny how no one seems to understand that an 87 year old knows nothing about what’s good for the younger generation and if she says she does it’s because Waity and Wills are dowdy and boring and give the olds what they’re used to.
If Twitter is to be believed, the female MPs are standing with Meghan. They have written a letter in support of her. Wow!
I just saw that. HollyLynch5 on twitter, since my links never get through.
“Women MPs from all political parties have put aside our differences to stand in solidarity with the Duchess of Sussex today and are sending her this open letter.”
I’ve just seen the MPs letter calling out misleading stories designed to cast aspersions on Meghan’s character& with colonialist& outdated overtones. Phew! Piers Morgan is already having a fit talking about freedom of press being curtailed. However someone on twitter did a screenshot of all the articles he had written in the Fail about her just this year and it’s crazy.
One female MP has said she won’t seek re-election because she’s fed up with abuse and intimidation- the discourse in Britain is so nasty so I can see why the MPs are making this move as Meghan is just one of the more famous right wing hate figures that is a woman at the moment. Gina miller who campaigned for Parliament to sign off the Brexit deal is another. She’s a WOC and has been subject to awful threats. There needs to be a move for discourse to be more civil but still brave of these MPs.
I wonder what the palaces’ next move will be. Not a great look to have this very public support& nothing from family she married into.
Ps I find it naive to think that if the reporters had met Meghan they would humanise her. History shows that’s not how it works with black/mixed race people. Some of these reporters do resent her because Harry doesn’t talk to them anymore because of the way they attacked her out of the gate and blame Meghan for it without sense of their own wrongdoing. But some simply would have preferred Harry with an English rose or with Cressida or Chelsy.
Whoever he ended up with they were always going to Fergie her anyway- someone found Richard Palmers tweets from 2015 (?) that if Harry doesn’t find a girlfriend soon, the press would have to go negative on the Cambridge’s because there needed to be a baddie. With Meghan they get to add racism, xenophobia.
WOW! *jumps up and down*
Cue from leak from William: He’s glad to hear about the support because Harry and Meghan were really in such a fragile place and he was very concerned.
YUP. Damn. Good for them.
I love that 72 female MP’s came out with an open letter in support of the Duchess of Sussex today, but this “golden couple” can’t even get together a tweet or an Instagram post in support of their FAMILY member.
I’m so happy that my MP signed the letter!
Amazing stand and support from these women – I love it!! What a pity the RF haven’t followed suit….
One of Meghan’s staunchest supporters Jameela Jamil has tweeted about DM harassing her disabled mother – disgusting behaviour. IPSO want Jameela to contact them but IPSO are toothless….. hope Jameela adds her name to the group that is sueing the tabloids for invasions of privacy etc….
The aristocrats (& I’d honestly wager most posh people in the UK in general, the old money’ed types that is) are the most boring, insular group of people to exist anywhere in the world. Even the ones who make the press for having “interesting” proclivities are just wasting their time doing nothing in particular because they have too much money and “”prestige”” in their little circle and their trust fund enables them to do stupid sh-t like sit around creating apps for coconut oil. They think of themselves as arbiters of taste and culture when the reality is that they have very little of either. I’m sure for that crowd that Will and Kate are absolute perfection. Both of them represent the aristocracy as what they actually are–boring af.
ETA: Also, these comments sound SUPER rehearsed. I wonder if they made the poor lady some helpful cue cards to go with it, so that she’d remember what to say.
I’m old enough to remember what a nasty piece of work Princess Margaret was. She was a heavy drinker – usually started her day with vodka and orange juice. She had no education and no desire to make anything of herself other than a demanding, tempermental snob. As she grew older she became addicted to bullying and one-upmanship. She would boast about her royal status to her children, and insist lovers address her as Your Royal Highness. One of her favourite parlour tricks was to drop cigarette ash into people’s hands.
Lady Anne Glenconner is one of the last of a dying breed that toadied up to the worst of the BRF and basked in their reflected glory. The fact that she couldn’t be arsed to mention the Sussexes in her nauseating comments only highlights the endemic racism against Meghan despite all the good work she’s accomplished in a very short period of time. “Hero-worship is strongest where there is least regard for human freedom.”
The detail about her boasting to her children about her royal status is funny. One of her complaints about her grandmother (Queen Mary) was that the old lady didn’t care for Margaret and only cared about the Queen because she’d likely be Queen one day, and it was because Queen Mary had been born with the lesser title of HSH (not HRH) and carried an inferiority complex her whole life as a result.
I’m old enough to remember Princess Margaret also. In almost every photograph her expression was that of a spoiled brat in a perpetual snit at not being born first and getting all the goodies.
My partner and I went to have lunch at this pub beside a cricket field in an area where its residents are affluent, this is near his parents’ home & an area where he grew up but he’s never been to this particular pub. We were having a lovely time until I heard one of the guys in the table behind suddenly bring Meghan into their conversation and they then proceeded to make fun of her and the older lady was singing praises about the dolittles. It didn’t surprise me that they were middle age white people and probably tory voters.
I couldn’t help but talk in a loud voice about my opinions regarding the tories and the dolittles in the hopes that they hear an opinion different from their own. I was the only person of colour there and because of the attitude of the ‘regulars’ there we won’t be coming back.
I’ve just seen on Twitter that there is an open letter of support that have been written to Meghan by an MP called Holly lynch that has been co-signed by nearly 70 other female MPs in the UK. The letter said how they all stand with her, against the way the media has treated her. It’s an amazing show of solidarity. However I don’t think any media outlets will run this story yet. They will run an 90 year old aristos nice comments about the Cambridge’s but will probably pass on nearly 70 female MPs all from different parties showing support to Meghan.
An elderly lady likes or prefers the Cambridge’s, so what?
Oh, this woman. I do feel bad for her because her memoir describes her husband as a *really* abusive, cruel man (charismatic, but he could flip on a dime to angry and raging). She tried to leave him once, and her mother told her to go straight back. It seemed like she felt completely trapped by expectations. She said she wasn’t close to Margaret until her marriage, as her husband was part of Margaret’s inner circle. Being so close to the princess maybe gave her a feeling of self worth that she needed. She had an anecdote about her husband getting kicked off a plane for being a total jerk and the princess telling her to ignore his demands for her to go with him that seemed to indicate that. I have a lot of sympathy for an abused spouse. But she sounds like a relic of another time (or would, if repressive hierarchies weren’t all the rage in half of America right now).
I think this is just a woman giving the couple a compliment because she enjoyed their visit. Why does everything have to be a competition between the two? This is a stretch IMO.