Timing, as they say, is everything. Marvel president Kevin Feige never wanted to make a stand-alone Black Widow movie when people started asking for it, years ago. Marvel moves in phases, phases which are planned out years and decades in advance, and a stand-alone superheroine movie was never part of a Marvel phase from 2009-2018. Feige was content to sit back and use DC’s Wonder Woman as the canary in the proverbial coal mine – Feige saw how audiences reacted to a woman leading a superhero franchise and after WW’s success, Feige finally relented. First Captain Marvel, then a Black Widow franchise. Unfortunately, it’s coming after Avengers: End Game, and I’m not 100% positive the timing is really all that great. Still, Scarlett Johansson was up for it and so it happened, at long last. Black Widow comes out in 2020, and here’s the first trailer:
I totally forgot that Florence Pugh would be in this, so I came into blind and now I love it. I watched Midsommer over the holiday and she’s SUCH a good actress, my lord. So… even if people are feeling iffy about ScarJo and her general air of bulls–t these days, I bet people will go see it because A) Marvel and B) the cast. Florence plays Black Widow’s sister. And they’re kicking ass together. And I really appreciate that they cast someone who reasonably looks like she could be Scarlett’s sister!! Also: David Harbour and Rachel Weisz! Damn.
Photo courtesy of WENN, poster courtesy of Marvel.
I didn’t have high expectations but this looks really good imho.
Too bad we couldn’t have someone come in playing ScarJo playing Black Widow. I mean, she’s all about anyone playing any role, right? So clearly she wouldn’t have a problem with Jim Carey method acting her acting as Black Widow, right?
Brilliant. Now that, I’d watch. This, not so much.
Haha! SNL skit!
I hope she’s not flying. It looks like she is. Black Widow is human and has no super powers, so I hope they didn’t overboard on that. But it does look good. I am dying to know if Cap and/or Ironman make an appearance. Very difficult to believe Marvel won’t have some surprises like that in store. This is their last chance for that.
Edit to add, this film should have come out five years ago, and it is so galling to me that because of Ike Perlmutter, it didn’t. Only when DC led the way with Wonder Woman, did Marvel wake up. And that’s something to keep in mind. It’s thanks to DC. It’s thanks to Patty Jenkins too.
Tell me there’s a cameo of Cap in a sweater and then I’d watch.
LOL
I don’t know about that, but the TL suggests it would be hotter-than-hot, bearded Cap.
Marvel greenlit and announced captain marvel way before WW. It was pushed back along with BP due to yet another spider-man movie.
Nope to Scarlett. I’m taking a stand and I mean it, sorry.
I’m with you Aims. No more SJ movies for me
Agreed! I will Never see anything this woman is in again
I love to support women in movies but I just really cannot support her, so I’m with you all
Aims, I’m the same. Will be skipping this.
I’m dying to see Florence upstage scarjo though. Hope Yelena Belova appears in future mcu instalments.
I’m excited about it, it looks good, or as good as any other Marvel movie. If it brings some other great female actors into the MCU, fantastic.
The first marvel movie I will miss courtesy of the “Woody Allen is my friend” apologist, thanks for nothing ScarJo, especially her recent comments. Can’t stand to see her in every scene, nope.
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Yup
Whenever I see her onscreen I think of her Woody Allen comments, her continued support of someone who is accused of abusing his own daughter, probably groomed, and definitely married his partner’s daughter, whom he had known since she was around 9-10 years old.
I just don’t get why she continuously speaks up for him? Is it loyalty for past great film roles? Is she lacking critical thinking skills? Is she someone who considers herself “The cool girl” and bashes other women to make herself look like she can hang? Is Hollywood so warped that it’s still better to defend those in power than to believe survivors? What the actual f is her deal?
Anyways, won’t be seeing this movie even though I love female led films. It’s just too much at this point for me to look past.
I’m sure it’s going to be a good movie, but I refuse to see anything that SJ is in
I’m sorry. I will not support anything with ScarJo in it.
That actually looks good.
Sigh. I know you guys are right. You are really bumming me out. I wish Emily Blunt had accepted the role. We have so few great female action roles. I have fumed for years that one of the few went to this idiot. But I’ve managed to push it aside. Reading these comments makes me feel like I shouldn’t have though.
Emily Blunt did accept the role but had to back out because of a scheduling conflict with some other movie.
I never knew this! She would’ve been so much better, for many reasons!
I didn’t know that, I thought she straight turned it down. This really makes me mad now. We all would have been so much better off, and the amazing character of Black Widow would have been the best off.
A small correction, Kevin wasn’t the one who blocked Black Widow. It was the other creep chairman (forgot his name) who refused women orientated and POC superheroes.
Once Kevin told Disney that either the chairman goes or he will, the chairman was forced to reassign and the other movies were given the go ahead.
Nonetheless, I won’t be watching this one in the cinema even though I am a marvel fan.
The Marvel exec in question was Ike Perlmutter, the chairman of Marvel Entertainment. Allegedly, he blocked development of films like Captain Marvel and Black Panther for a couple reasons including that female fronted projects didn’t sell toys and that the films wouldn’t do well overseas. He’s been proven wrong with the success of both movies, both in the box office and merchandising revenue.
Disney and Kevin Feige took over control of the film properties in Fall 2015 from Marvel Entertainment. The TV unit, led by Jeph Loeb was still under Marvel Entertainment’s control until earlier this year.
I’ll download it for free probably. Not giving money to this turd. Frankly, I hope it tanks.
+1 me too
i cant stand her, but love the other ppl in it 😀
This looks much better than expected and I love the cast. May is a good slot, after the holiday movie rush and before the summer blockbusters so it should do well.
Didn’t have expectations for this and wow it looks bad 😶
A very big no from me. The movie may be good, but I just can’t with Scarlett.
I’m gonna wait till its available on DVD and watch it only for Florence Pugh or wait till someone puts all the Florence parts in YT compliation or something.
It looks good. Timing is bad. Should have happened right after Winter Soldier, then it would fit right in the timeline for all of them to return in Civil War. It’s a shame it’ll suffer because ScarJo is insufferable.
Yeah the timing is off. And I think that’s because they never intended to do a solo Black Widow film. ScarJo herself said that she learned about the solo film at the same time she learned Black Widow was being killed off in Endgame. I honestly think Feige threw her a bone and then had to figure out where the film would fit in the timeline.
Hawkeye should have died in Endgame instead. Timing problems solved.
I kind of agree Rapunzel, but then OTOH, would it have had any emotional impact? I mean, for me, I would have laughed. I can’t stand Hawkeye and I think a lot of that is due to Renner, but some of it is what they did with his character post-Infinity War. And scarjo is past her expiration date, let’s face it. I mean, not quite as much as Renner, but she’s there. I think the MCU will be better off without both Renner and Scarjo. But damn, I will miss Natasha.
As I told a friend of mine last night when we were discussing the trailer, “as long as she stays dead I’m good.” I like Black Widow but I am done with ScarJo and if we never have to see her in the Marvel Universe after this film that would be great. I still haven’t decided if Im going to see it. But I probably will because I see every Marvel film.
I love Rachel and have been looking forward to her doing an action movie all these years after Constantine but NOPE – I can’t support .ScarJo
Even in this trailer she’s the dullest part of this film. I can’t imagine a whole movie that focuses on her.
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I am going to watch this despite the boneheadedness of Scarlett J. I want it to do well for the sake of Florence Pugh, Rachel Weisz and David Harbour whom I all love esp. Rachel.
With all these money spent on the movie they could not find a proper “accent coach” this is very Hollywood Russian accent. Talking from the experience – they do not sound like that. Otherwise, the move looks interesting to watch.
I mean, I teach English to a lot of Russians and Ukrainians (Ukrainian shares a lot of phonology with Russian), and some of them do sound very stereotypical. It’s an accent that is sort of inherently comedic because the classic Boris and Natasha accent actually got a lot right– inserting a ‘y’ sound before short ‘a’ sounds ( you can here it in Yelena’s “Is thyat what we are?”), omitting articles and nominals, tapping the ‘t’ lightly and rarely vocalizing it into a ‘d’, etc. Florence Pugh at least is doing a better job than Scarlett Johansson ever did, but there is a reason they decided not to go with Russian accents in Chernobyl. The real accent can just sound fake.
Thank you , that is a good explanation 🙂
Do y’all remember that time she lied about knowing Barack Obama? LOL! Also the red lipstick in the header photo is so nice. Wonder what color that is
No way I would support a movie starring this gaslighting, racist, abuser-enabling jacka**.
I love the Marvel universe but ScarJo is horrible at Black Widow, but then again that’s how I feel about most of her roles — she’s wooden and dull. Water evaporating into air does so with more feeling than ScarJo can do in any of her acting. AND to top that off, she’s stupidly ignorant and her comments about Woody aren’t the first — nor the last — of that stupidity. With that in mind, I’m only here because David Harbour is in the trailer.
I think they’re going to bring Black Widow back for the next phase in the MCU, but I think it’s going to be Yelena Belova (a/k/a Florence Pugh) wearing the mantle, not Natasha/ScarJo.
Well, that would be fantastic.
Grant- my thought too. This is new widow’s origin story.
Except Marvel announced Captain Marvel way back in 2014, and Wonder Woman didn’t get moving until 2015. There are a lot of things we can bag on Marvel for, but they did have a female led movie on the calendar years and years ago. I’ve always assumed they didn’t do a BW movie because of the Marvel chairman, who is a notorious chauvinist, and also because Natasha Romanoff isn’t a big character in the comics. She has some good books, but she is definitely a B-list Avenger. The characters they made movies about are all big players in the Avengers, who hold down entire quadrants of the Marvel universe. Even Ant-Man is a bigger character, because that is the doorway to the microverse (without which, Endgame would not have worked). Black Widow is just a cool side character, so the movies treated her that way, too. Marvel’s mistake was not realizing the appetite for a female led movie and getting Captain Marvel out sooner.
This looks noisy and bad. Nope.
Wow the cancel culture is really strong here. I’m just surprised people are cancelling people who don’t agree with you, but didn’t do the crime. I can understand cancelling the Woody Allen’s, but the people who are his “friends” and support him you cancel their work too. I think it may dilute the effectiveness of the cancelling, but I live in a free society so go express yourself however you see fit.
@noway
lmaoooo you tried. I feel sorry for you that you feel so sensitive over people taking a stand & putting their money where their morals are. I get it, you’re angry. You want your Marvel and you hate ‘cancel culture’ (easy way to minimize it by labeling this as that, a la ‘haters’) those buzzwords let you avoid talking about it in a bigger way. perfect for people like you who aren’t capable of nuance & instead whine about how things are changing.
If somebody supports Cosby, I don’t support them. If somebody supports Roman Polanski, I don’t support them. If somebody supports Woody Allen, I don’t support them.
“I think it may dilute the effectiveness of the cancelling“ – quite contrary – it sends a message. Clearly that message has you riled. in the words of Cheeto-In-Chief, SAD!
I know this is hard for you to understand, but…tough luck 😂
Noway – You were on here talking about how Prince Andrew’s victim was probably lying, so this doesn’t surprise me coming from you.
I’ll get into Black Widow when anyone else plays her lol.
I don’t know how they could resist bringing back Ironman, but I think the TL fits with a Cap cameo. Yes, I have way too much time on my hands. So, this is post Civil War and pre-Infinity war. We know when Infinity Wars begins Black Widow is with Cap. So I think they end this movie, Cap comes to get her. Just a guess. But they would really want to fit in an Ironman cameo, I am sure, so I don’t discount that possibility.
Lainey also says this will be the hand off to Florence Pugh’s new Black Widow, and I am really cool with that! That solves a lot of issues for me.
Oh and noway, I agree with Carina, you tried it.
I actually don’t think many people will see this. Scarjo doesn’t have the clout like she did 15 years ago. She’s very out of touch with reality and people generally just don’t like her. I think it’s going to be a disappointment. I won’t be seeing it.
Yeah, can’t stand her. The open-mouth expression has gotten so old. I don’t believe I EVER stand around posing like that. If I see a camera, I’ll smile, not open my mouth wide. WTF? Never a good look for anyone.
ya….I dont do scarjo movies….