Prince Charles ‘read the riot act’ to Prince Andrew, during a lunch with Prince Philip

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When the Prince of Wales returned to England from his South Pacific tour, he immediately went to Sandringham to speak with his father. While the official cover story was “they were talking about organic farming,” of course everyone knew that Charles was really there to talk to his dad about Prince Andrew. Charles had already effectively ordered the Queen to fire Andrew from public duties, but many people believed there would be more punishments to come. It was also believed that Charles was perhaps seeking his father’s blessing to completely shut out Andrew. But perhaps Charles met with Philip so that they could get their arguments against Andrew straight, and become a united front when they spoke to Andrew together. That’s apparently what happened:

Prince Philip reportedly ordered Andrew to step down for the sake of the monarchy during a Sandringham showdown with Charles amid the worsening Jeffrey Epstein crisis. The Duke of Edinburgh told the disgraced prince to cease royal duties amid a backlash over the Duke of York’s friendship with the billionaire paedophile. An insider at the royal estate told the Daily Telegraph: ‘It was a tense meeting and Philip told his son that he had to take his punishment.’

Prince Charles also ‘read the riot act’ to his under-fire brother, a source claimed yesterday. The Prince of Wales is said to have dragged his younger sibling to the royal estate for a crunch summit where he effectively retired the duke from his public duties. Charles told his embattled brother there was ‘no way back into the family in the near future’ after the public outcry that followed his disastrous Newsnight interview last month.

Prince Philip also joined his sons for the light lunch, which took place shortly before the BBC interview with Andrew’s accuser Virginia Roberts aired on Monday. Andrew has repeatedly claimed that he did not have sex with Virginia Roberts and says that he couldn’t remember meeting her. The royal source told The Sun: ‘It was all very civilised and calm but Charles calmly read him the riot act and told him there was no way back for him in the near future. Andrew thought he was being treated harshly as nothing has yet been proved against him, but he accepted the decision. He really had little choice.’

Charles was also said to be concerned with the prospect of Andrew going to the US to clear his name, amid fears that such a move could ‘remove the mystery’ surrounding the royal family.

The source added: ‘Philip regrets Andrew doesn’t know how to lead a simple life. He thinks he’s been too extravagant.’

[From The Daily Mail]

“…Amid fears that such a move could ‘remove the mystery’ surrounding the royal family…” THAT is the concern here? Not that Andrew participated in a human trafficking scheme and abused trafficked girls himself? Not that submitting to an FBI interview would end up with Andrew being criminally charged or under investigation? No, it’s all about the MYSTERY! The mystique must be rescued and protected? We can’t have any grubby, dull, stupid, non-sweating, Pizza Express-alibi-ing rapists ruining the mystery of royalty. Anyway, this checks out? I bet Philip and Charles were united in telling Andrew to GTFO and STFU. I wonder what the Queen will say though? Because clearly, the Queen is still trying to protect her favorite.

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  1. Eliza says:

    I think the “mystery” he meant was if all was laid bare people would SEE how corrupt they all are. The less people know the better to keep the monarchy alive.

    • Becks1 says:

      That was my thought too. They don’t want Andrew’s actions to do anything that would lay bare all their corruption, financial dealings etc.

    • Original Jenns says:

      Agree – I think it’s all about the money they’re not supposed to be collecting while they do their charity work and patronages. Andrew’s too stupid and arrogant to keep his stories straight.

    • Adieuline says:

      wasn’t Andrew and Charles cousin David Lynley also in Epstein’s little black book?

    • A says:

      Not even corrupt–you see just how ordinary they are. How undeserving they are of their special status because of their birth. They have to keep proving to the people that they deserve this institution that gives them millions and millions of dollars a year and ensconced in wealth and privilege.

  2. Mtec says:

    It really irks me this is the second article i’ve read that mentions Andrew’s problem was that he had a “friendship with the billionaire pedophile.” Andrew’s problem is that he served as the market/demand for the human trafficking and rape of young girls. Andrew’s problem was that he abused his position to make shady business and tax deals and had no qualms about receiving shady bailout money from Epstein whenever he and Fergie needed it. He’s not just getting backlash cause he was friends with a criminal and abuser. Andrew is those things as well.

    • snowqueenM says:

      Exactly, MTEC! No one is besties with a rich rapist pedophile because of their sparkling wit and charming personality! You’re there because you are – at minimum – a buyer for what they’re providing, and you’re hoping friendship with them might get you some other freebies, exclusive access and connections.

    • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

      AND he was shown to have been passing govt secrets to his business associates for a cut!! How is THIS not being talked about more! This should be a headline every day! WHAT was passed to WHOM, and how did it alter/affect other govt actions??

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Yep. There really need to be much more focus on how Andrew has mishandled confidential government documents and thus acted against the interests of the nation that he represents. This part of the scandal really touches on the very CORE of the function of a constitutional monarchy. This is really something that sends down huge cracks in the very foundation of the institution he is part of.

      • Tourmaline says:

        This so much. It should be a huge scandal, his misuse of his official royal role for private gain and the whole recent expose in DM re his financial relationship with the Rowlands. In my opinion this was something that Buckingham Palace fully knew he was up to and tacitly approved for some twisted corrupt reason. Then after his ‘trade ambassador’ post was ended circa 2011 he hopped right back into the moneymaking biz by taking a cut of Pitch at the Palace.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        They RF are desperately trying to distract from the fact that Prince Porky Fingers committed TREASON for a cut of the profit others were making – this has total shades of the Duke of Windsor.

        To the RF having him tarred as a rapist paedo is better than having him branded a traitor – him being a traitor has bigger implications for their future than him being a rapist.

      • noway says:

        He may very well be guilty of the trading of government secrets for money, although I scoff at whoever was the idiot who gave him secrets in the first place. However, I think we do a disservice when we state it as fact based on who is reporting this now. We should really be encouraging proper government agencies to investigate all of it, including the trading of government secrets. Most of those stories are the Daily Mail and it’s ilk and we can’t just believe them cause we like the direction of the story. It’s not like they are good reporters now, and just not on the other stuff.

      • Jane'sWastedTalent says:

        Great point noway- not that I have any faith in Andrew, but several of these rags are owned by right-wing anti-monarchists.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        @noway You have a good point but I very much doubt that there’ll be any kind of investigation into his actions simply due to the fact that he’s a member of the RF.

      • Anance says:

        It’s the money. Simple as that.

    • Gabby says:

      Let’s call this repulsive pedo exactly what he is: a criminal.

  3. bekindbekindbekind says:

    This is a slight tangent, forgive me, but does anyone know how Epstein/Maxwell procured the young women and girls they trafficked? How were they brought into their world?

    One of Virginia Roberts’ creepiest statements was that Maxwell informed her “…to do to Andrew what she did to Epstein.”

    I think if this aspect of the situation was more fully discussed, it might make it clearer that these girls were not acting with consent which would counteract the vile and so tired, “They knew what they were getting into and they wanted it.”

    Back to case in point, Bravo Charles. The right thing isn’t always done for the right reason, but he’s done the right thing.

    • Tourmaline says:

      If you haven’t already, I highly recommend reading the Miami Herald series of articles from November 2018 by Julie K. Brown. They are on the newspaper’s website. The series was called Perversion of Justice. These articles have details about how girls in Palm Beach were brought in to provide ‘masseuse’ services to Epstein. Then they had the girls recruit other girls from their schools, malls, etc.

      In the case of Virginia Roberts, Maxwell spotted her working in the spa at Mar-a-Lago resort when she was 16 and struck up a conversation with her and brought her to Epstein’s mansion.

    • Eliza_ says:

      Many girls Epstein or Maxwell found were working country clubs or the like. They told them they could train them as massage therapists. Then Epstein would sexually attack when alone. From there I assume he used his power-imbalance to twist the girls mind with shame and all the other tools predators use to coerce the girls to continue to be his victims, and then others. Whether Andrew knew they were raped and pressured to have sex with him, I don’t know, but even in the most naive thinking he knew Epstein had underage girls available for him which is still illegal, but I’m sure he knew much more than just that. Come on!

    • Lightpurple says:

      Epstein had multiple contact numbers for Ivanka Trump when she was just a teenager. How many girls did Nagini send his way?

  4. minx says:

    What “mystery”? I think most have figured out that they are useless grifters. I see this spoiled, not-very-bright family desperate to keep their grip on the sweet deal they have.

    • Ashipper says:

      Yes, they look ridiculous in those uniforms covered in doo-dads. I think their biggest role at this point is fueling the tourist industry. When visiting London (which is an awesome city), many of the things to do there revolve around the royal family.

      • minx says:

        I’m an American who has visited England many times. In my humble opinion it is a wonderful country that would do just fine without a monarchy.

  5. The Mehgetarian says:

    After looking at that last picture, are we 100% sure Prince Philip isn’t a Weekend at Bernie’s situation?

    • MsIam says:

      The words “Crypt Keeper” do come to mind, lol! However, he’s 98 so I’m sure he’s not complaining.

    • Mego says:

      He appears to be holding his head up unaided, otherwise I would be concerned…

    • minx says:

      😂😂 Celebitchy comments give me life.

    • Marigold says:

      Most of us won’t be lucky enough to see age 98. Those of us who do will have thinning, grey hair, crepe-like skin that has lost any semblance of youthful elasticity, dulled or clouded eye color, teeth that are wearing out and starting to suffer a bit, minds that have to work harder for clarity, frailty in our joints and muscles control, and a total loss of outward physical beauty.

      We will still be human beings, and we will suffer the indignity of being treated as though we are not by people who have not contemplated the terrible fact that–if they’re lucky–they, too, will live long enough to be as old as we are.

      Not trying to be a stick in the mud, but I work with senior citizens, and the way people treat them is appalling. I’m just hyper-sensitive to it, so don’t mind me too much. Just…when it’s an actual person in front of you (instead of a royal family member in a photograph from the media), remember that what they look like is a place we are all going to go, someday.

    • No Doubt says:

      How do you think you’d look at nearly 100 years of age?

  6. Catherine says:

    Not only was this the correct course of action, it also is good PR to have the two most senior male members of the BRF pull the trigger. Well done, Prince Charles, well done. And credit to Prince Philip, the old dog still has bite.

    • aquarius64 says:

      Watch for a story for William was conferenced in by Skype to lay in on Uncle Andy.

    • Mtec says:

      I feel like this is not what you meant, but I can’t help but feel like praising Phillip and Charles for their “bite” against Andrew, is like praising a someone for teaching a criminal how to hide the body better. They’re not two Noble senior royals trying to make Andrew do the right thing. All they’re trying to do is quiet Andrew to preserve their own assess.

      There’s nothing to congratulate here when it comes to the royal family.

    • Mego says:

      It would have been admirable if they had taken action when Andrew was still associating with Epstein after his conviction. Now it’s just a great big royal cya.

  7. aquarius64 says:

    The mystic is long gone for the monarchy and that being the concern over the victims is complete tone deafness.

    DM is reporting the staff wants Andrew to be a no show for the Christmas walk at Sandringham out of fear of protesters at the church. I’m glad the Sussexes are far away from this mess.

  8. MsIam says:

    Key words “near future”. What does that mean? Until the bad publicity has died down? Sounds pretty toothless to me.

    • Betsy says:

      I took “near future” to be polite speak for “the rest of your natural life, dirtbag, so don’t try anything clever with Ma.”

    • Cee says:

      Once Charles is King, Andrew will be gone for good. That’s what he told his little brother.

  9. Heather says:

    I could have *almost* believed this “source” until the last bit about Phillip thinking that Andrew was too extravagant. Things have never been, nor will ever be, too extravagant for Prince Phillip.
    I do think that Charles and his father convinced the Queen to take a stand against Andrew, and I also believe that they are all in full-blown damage control for the sake of the family. But it doesn’t take a “source” to figure that out.

  10. Kim says:

    Is that how you handle a pedophile?

    “Read them the riot act?”

    • Becks1 says:

      But, in a completely calm and civil manner, over a light lunch.

      • paranormalgirl says:

        Ah yes, the officially reading of the riot act over tea and light refreshments. On the Royal Dalton china. i imagine there’s room for a pony at Sandringham.

        Ugh. These people.

      • Marigold says:

        LMAO…right?! Best comment on the internet, today, Becks

        I don’t understand why he’s not in prison. I don’t understand why SO MANY people like that aren’t in prison. Civil and calm “talking to,” indeed.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Becks that is spot on. Over tea and cucumber sandwiches we need to discuss how your child rape has become a spot of bother. Seriously old chap can’t you keep your sex crimes better hidden it is causing ever so much distress over our mystique. Even Hyacinth Bucket would dump her tea over this man.

    • Betsy says:

      If it were but the first domino to fall for the rapist, I’d be okay with that.

      Sadly it’s probably the only domino.

  11. EM says:

    It cracks me up that the article mentions it was a “light” lunch. I really don’t care how much they feed Andrew. Have him talk to the FBI, don’t just send him to bed without his supper.

    • Tourmaline says:

      Yes the light lunch–I’m so glad that was specified. Don’t want to eat anything too heavy when in a tense showdown!

      • Dara says:

        I believe the light lunch was a terrible breach in established royal protocol. The proper repast for confronting a criminal in the family is in fact afternoon tea. Serving finger food guarantees that should one’s royal composure fail, there are no sharp objects at the ready. No matter how satisfying it might be, it simply wouldn’t do to stab your insufferable sibling with an antique silver fish fork.

      • Noodle says:

        @Dara I laughed so hard I snorted at your response. Thank you for bringing a little ray of sunshine on this gloomy (literally and figuratively) day!

      • Feeshalori says:

        I’m sure a digestive was served to alleviate the agita that undoubtedly accompanied the meal. And I’m sure pizza was not on the menu.

  12. Rapunzel says:

    There’s been so much Charles in Charge PR surrounding this that Scott Baio is now angling to play Chuck in the next bio pic.

  13. Lowrider says:

    That entire piece sounds completely made up.

    The tabloid writers really like controlling the narrative of the royal family’s shenanigans.

    • Arpeggi says:

      Yeah, I don’t believe any of this took place. I’m sure Philip used to have a tight grip on the family when he was younger but anytime writers are saying Philip got his kids to do anything , I have to laugh. The prince is 98, he’s not in a state to do that sort of things anymore and that’s totally ok. His kids went to visit their dad because he’s old, there wasn’t any summit or anything, that’s all fan fiction

    • goofpuff says:

      This is totally Charles PR for sure.

  14. perplexed says:

    “…Amid fears that such a move could ‘remove the mystery’ surrounding the royal family…”

    Maybe they’re afraid he’ll talk to Oprah. Sarah Ferguson did. And that’s usually when she comes off looking at her worst. Imagine Prince Andrew going through a public therapy session on Youtube where he accidentally lets us know of all the terrible things he’s done…it could happen!

    He’s clearly a bad man and it reflects badly on the rest of them, even if they had nothing to do with what he was doing. We’re all judged by our family members…

    • Bonita says:

      The bit about Charles being worried about Andrew going to the US is right where I decided this article is BS. He would be arrested in a hot second.

      • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

        I wonder about that. ESP as we’ve not heard boo about Maxwell, and while what he did is heinous enough, she is WAY higher up that “food train” than Pedo-Prince.

    • Gabby says:

      Haha, I would love to see this buffoon try to go toe to toe with Oprah!
      Sarah made a pure fool of herself, taking responsibility for nothing, IIRC, blaming her actions on being drunk. Typical.

  15. Valiantly Varnished says:

    I think the fact that the Queen is still attempting to protect Andrew it at the very least publicly support him is WHY Charles went around her and went to Phillip. It’s clear QE’s judgement is flawed when it comes her favorite son and by presenting a inited front with Phillip is gives Charles a bit more leverage with her.

    • Chrissy says:

      Totally agree. I bet PedoAndy has been manipulating HM his whole life but now it’s hit the fan and Charles went to his dad because she will listen to him as head of the family.

  16. Lindsay Krzepkowski says:

    Thank you for always using this horrific photo of Andrew:

    It will NEVER stop being the best way to capture this bozo’s “essence.”

    • amayson1977 says:

      Stipulating that this is an entirely superficial remark, and not at all important when one considers the very real human toll that this POS’s actions have taken, but HOW does he have such messed-up lower teeth?? He’s a MFing PRINCE for Pete’s sake, at one time was second in line to the British throne, and his teeth are hideous. I hate the enormous, white chiclet teeth that many American male celebrities have, but hasn’t the BRF heard of braces?

  17. Tourmaline says:

    Andrew wants to come to the U.S. to clear his name?? Haha yes Andrew, board a plane and fly over here as soon as you can! P.S.: Bring Ghislaine too

  18. Spikey says:

    Dear Charles, your mystique was gone once you declared you wanted to exist as a tampax.

    • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

      I’m. D.E.A.D.! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • Betsy says:

      Maybe. But that was a hacked phone conversation. I can’t imagine what horrifically embarrassing things I’ve said in spaces I can reasonably assume to be private.

      • Spikey says:

        @Betsy You’re right, of course. Still, I’d considered it embarassing to myself (!) if I’d uttered such nonsense.

  19. Mary says:

    The Daily Mail misstated what was in the original Sun article. In the Sun article it was stated that it was Charles (and not Andrew) who wanted Andrew to go to the states to try to clear things up but that Royal courtiers invoked
    and were concerned about the Royal mystique.

    The DM totally twisted the original report (to make Chuck look bad, hmm?).

  20. ItReallyIsYou,NotMe says:

    I am unclear – Does Virginia allege that she had sex with Andrew in Florida? I buy that Andrew may not have known that Virginia was coerced into having sex with him (I mean everything about that wanker screams that he thinks everyone wants to be his friend and every woman wants to have sex with him), so maybe criminal charges on sex trafficking won’t happen. But at least in Florida they could still charge him with statutory rape bc lack of knowledge of the minor’s age is not a defense to statutory rape.

    • Mo says:

      Epstein was so clearly manipulating/grooming Andrew. At 17, Virginia was legally underage in most places and morally underage in all. However, she was legally of age everywhere where she was “offered” to Andrew. Epstein knew Andrew would be seriously damaged if the world found out about this. However, he knew that if he placed a British royal in a situation which could land him in jail, there would be consequences for Epstein in the high society circles he traveled in. Your getting busted for procurement can be explained away. Your wealthy friends facing criminal charges cannot.

      This is not a defense of Andrew in any way. I’ve long been fascinated with how con men find their marks, and Andrew was totally a mark. Shady people have ways of making sure the people their targets are shady, too. Upright citizens are too likely to go to the cops. You have to let people make the choice themselves to step over the line of their own volition. Andrew leapt.

    • Babs says:

      Oh please, y’all stop with this “Andrew didn’t know he was raping Virginia” bullcr@p. Andrew KNEW he was raping a trafficked girl. 1) Andrew never approached Virginia and asked if she was interested in dating him.
      2) Andrew did not know Virginia from any other girl he’d met in that club, never had a discussion with her about having casual sex with him or anything like that.
      3) The girl was INSTRUCTED by Andrew’s best friend, Ghislaine Maxwell to “do for Andrew what she does for Epstein”. Doesn’t that tell Andrew this girl is there against her will? What part of that instructions was so hard to figure out?
      4) Andrew raped this girl, period,be d of story. And he was very well aware that he was committing a sex crime, period, end of story.

  21. RoyalBlue says:

    Indeed. This is all damage control to preserve their cushy lifestyle.

    So undeserving of this.

  22. Steph says:

    “We can’t have any grubby, dull, stupid, non-sweating, Pizza Express-alibi-ing rapists ruining the mystery of royalty.” I’m dead.

  23. Snap Happy says:

    He doesn’t think it’s fair because he hasn’t been convicted??? He can’t be convicted!! That’s the whole problem. The court of public opinion is the only one he will see. And he did not defend himself well at all.

  24. Mego says:

    And this is what so many racists have deemed that Meghan wasn’t good enough for? Far too good imo.

    • ravynrobyn says:


    • Jane'sWastedTalent says:

      One of the posters on here- kerwood I think it was- compared racism to a mental illness. The more I’ve thought about it, the more I’ve realized she’s dead on. Interestingly there’s also a big overlap with being a racist and sociopathy. It’s not a closed set, but there is definitely an overlap.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Racism is so much more than that – it is embedded in our very language, it is often institutional in nature because once upon a time it was law, i.e. segregation. It also exists as unconscious bias, i.e. thought patterns that is inherited through decades, even centuries, of institutional racism. It is much more insidious than the openly virulent behaviour that seems almost deranged.

        Sexism operates in a similar manner.

  25. Lala11_7 says:

    Just like I think that POS Jerry Sandusky used his charity for under-privileged boys as a conduit to traffic children to POWERFUL people… I think that Andrew served as the same type putrid conduit to some of the most powerful people on this planet…and just like with Sandusky…how no other investigations were sought regarding his charity or the children (though a Police Detective mysteriously died while investigating it) …it looks like that same veil of silence is being employed here…which should let you know that there are REALLY POWERFUL MEN behind this hell

  26. Beech says:

    Andy, guilty of that most reprehensible of crimes, He Was Indiscreet. I remember Ted Casablanca writing about this years ago. The RF didn’t care.

  27. Thea says:

    Of course they only care about themselves. No empathy for the trafficked girls. I mean it’s no like Charles wasn’t friends with a pedo bishop or the queen knighting jimmy salville….oh wait…

  28. what's inside says:

    Andrew for impeachment. Makes for high entertainment.

  29. JanetFerber says:

    Dressing him down in front of Daddy. Ooooohhhh! Three generations of adulterers, one rapist at least. And don’t forget Princess Diana. They can all go to hell.