The Duke & Duchess of Sussex have spent their six-week holiday in Canada

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle pay a visit to Johannesburg

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex were not in Montecito for the entirety of their six weeks’ holiday. I mean, I still think it’s possible that they’ve switched locations a few times, so maybe they were in Montecito for Thanksgiving, but they are absolutely in Canada at the moment. We know this because… well, the timeline in interesting. We know this because Rebecca English at the Daily Mail had the exclusive information, and then Buckingham Palace (Harry and Meghan’s office) confirmed it. How did Rebecca English get the scoop? Well, it looks like she got some kind of briefing from Kensington Palace (William and Kate). So here’s that “scoop” from the Daily Mail, which had already been edited to reflect the confirmation from BP:

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are living in Canada on their six-week break from royal duties, the Mail can reveal. Harry and Meghan flew with their eight-month-old son Archie across the Atlantic last month to a secret address, where they have been keeping a low profile ever since. The duchess’s mother, Doria, has been visiting from LA – and will be spending Christmas with the couple – as well as a number of friends. Meghan, 38, lived in Toronto for seven years while working as an actress on the legal drama Suits.

Her close-knit group of friends in the country included fashion stylist Jessica Mulroney, her television presenter husband Ben and their three children, who all had roles at the royal wedding. Meghan is also spending a great deal of time with her closest male confidant, Markus Anderson, of private members club group Soho House. Other friends from the US have been crossing the border to see them. Harry, 35, and his wife are understood to have felt they would have more chance of spending their time away from the UK undetected in Canada than in Meghan’s home country of America.

A friend said: ‘They have barely set foot outside the door and have been enjoying some quality family time together.’

Palace sources said at the time it was likely that they would be spending time in the US. But the Mail understands the family later decided to stay in Canada and will remain there until the New Year. A spokesman for the couple told the Mail yesterday that they would not discuss their ‘private travel plans’.

Last night Buckingham Palace confirmed the Daily Mail’s exclusive story that the couple have been in Canada. In a statement it said: ‘As has been reported, Their Royal Highnesses The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are spending private family time in Canada. The decision to base themselves in Canada reflects the importance of this Commonwealth country to them both.’

It said it would not be releasing any further details for security reasons and requested that their privacy is respected. The spokeswoman added: ‘The Duke of Sussex has been a frequent visitor to Canada over many years, and it was also home to The Duchess for seven years before she became a member of the Royal Family. They are enjoying sharing the warmth of the Canadian people and the beauty of the landscape with their young son.’

[From The Daily Mail]

I admire the wisdom and forethought of Harry and Meghan for choosing to vacation quietly in a British commonwealth country. Even though they hoped their location wouldn’t be leaked, they knew that if their location was leaked, it would be easy to argue that they are all about the commonwealth and all of that jazz. As for how the information was leaked… of course there are conspiracies, and I believe those conspiracies. It does seem particularly suspicious that Rebecca English had the scoop, considering she’s one of the go-to journos for Kensington Palace leaks. It’s also suspicious that this came right after KP did a briefing for a lot of royal journalists about all of the stuff they’ve got coming out. Was this yet another example of William screwing over his brother? Probably.

PM Justin Trudeau is glad to have them though – I bet he’s even seen them while they’ve been in the country.

Update: The Sussexes released their e-holiday card on Monday. Baby Archie!!

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle continue their visit to Africa

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  1. Rando says:

    Lol that tweet from Trudeau. So thirsty.

    • Peg says:

      I don’t think it’s thirsty, he is friends with both of them.
      He is the Prime Minster, for security reasons, he knew they were in Canada.
      The mayor of Toronto also did a shout out to them.

      • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

        “ You’re among friends, and always welcome here.”

        “Some people” in England will need a vat of aloe for that burn!

      • Yvette says:

        I don’t think it was thirsty of Trudeau, either. :)

        The Duke and Duchess have guarded their ‘royal break’ secret location well, especially since most people guessed they were in America. Sad that Kensington Palace decided to spoil their privacy. But I doubt it was William or Kate who spoiled the secret; even though both seem a bit jealous of any attention Harry and Meaghan receive. My guess is that it was one of the Courtiers who took a bribe for a Christmas bonus.

      • Rando says:

        It’s completely thirsty and reminiscent of Trump grandstanding and celeb-chasing. Trudeau being friends with the Sussexes is irrelevant, he’s an elected political head of state, why is he using an official medium of communication to comment on the private activities of the British royal family?

        I may have underestimated what being part of the commonwealth means, and if so, I do apologize. I equated this to a President releasing an official statement on the travels of private citizens in their country.

      • Nic919 says:

        The mayor of Toronto also posted something as well as the minister of tourism of ontario. They are all different political parties and what they did was welcome Harry and Meghan to Canada / ontario / Toronto once a public statement was made by BP that they were staying in Canada. Since the Queen is still head of state of Canada and Harry is her grandson, it’s a polite thing to do.

    • BabsORIG says:

      How? He’s our prime minister and he sent a message of welcome to the royals visiting his country, how’s that “thirsty”? Trudeau can’t win with some people.

      • Sara says:

        Thirsty? What a weird take on it. I’m 100% sure it was sanctioned by the Sussexes (even requested?).

      • Mumbles says:

        He can’t win among people who side-eye him for his corruption scandal and his blackface. And the issue here is that he’s taking advantage of this news leaking to glom on and make it somewhat above himself. So yeah, he’s thirsty. Think about it – even fameball Jessica Mulroney has shown more restraint.

      • BabsORIG says:

        Oh cry me a river JT is so corrupt and did blackface yadda yadda yadda. He apologized and many of us people of color got past that and voted him back into power. I’ll take JT a million times before invite Steven Harper or any of his minions back into office. And I see that quite a few cons are still bitter about losing the election they trying to weep more the bereaved. And I also notice quite a few Cambridge stans are attempting to pull focus off of the Cambs leaking like sieves, projecting all negativity on Meghan and turning this thread into a political disvussion. Anything to redirect the convo I duppose. Meghan is not the reason he Cons lost the election. She did not steal from any Canadian, she never ran for office etc. Last I checked this is a free country and she can be friends with whomever she wants to be friends with regardless of their political affiliations.

      • Rando says:

        They’re traveling privately, not in an official capacity. It’s absurd. How much shit would Obama have gotten if he’d welcomed Beatrice to NYC when she started her job there? “The US would like to welcome HRH Beatrice to NYC for her job opportunities, you are welcome here.”

        Please. Trudeau commenting on their private travel is thirsty. He’s not a private citizen.

        And the amount of reaching folks are doing on a single comment is.. telling.

      • Nic919 says:

        John Tory mayor of Toronto also commented as well. Harry being the grandson of the Canadian head of state isn’t just a private citizen. And nothing was said by anyone until BP announced they were in Canada.

      • Scotchy says:

        Many of us Canadian POC didn’t “get over” the plethora of incidents, broken promises and scandals that the libs have been embroiled since being helmed by Mr.Selfie.
        Some of us weren’t fear mongered into thinking there are only two options in Canada and voted a different way. That’s neither here nor there. Personally I agree and think his comment was mildly thirsty with a hint o shade thrown in kinda on brand for his image as the “cool hip relatable“ politician.
        All I really want to know is who is paying for their security and I hope it isn’t us and that they are privately funding their Canadian holiday.

      • Guest says:

        Uhh, of course you are paying for it, why wouldn’t Canadians pay for it? Whenever Royals go abroad, the host country pays for them. Us Brits pay for their RPOS, but the rest of the bill is paid for by the country in which they are staying. So, yup, all their other security expenses, police protection, diplomatic protection, is paid for by the Canadians. When Megan had her baby shower in New York, New Yorkers paid for her extra security.

    • Lia says:

      Lol right? First thing I thought too.

      On a side note MM friendship with the Mulroneys really puts me off. They are huge Conservative Party backers and donators, Bens sister is even on Doug Fords cabinet and has been an absolute POS slashing funding to legal aid and infrastructure projects. The Mulroney family and their views don’t seem to be in line with the image MM puts out of herself so I have a lot of iffy feelings. Let’s not forget what a homophobe and anti-woman asshat Sheer was this election cycle and yet the Mulroneys were VERY supportive of him and the party.

      • Blue36 says:

        The Mulroneys are also friends with the Trudeaus and their political views are also very different. Also I think Meghan’s friendship is more with Jessica than the entire Mulroney family

      • Sam Louise says:

        It doesn’t matter what Ben and Jessica’s political views are; it’s none of our business. Meghan has had a strong friendship with Jessica for several years now so they obviously have a lot in common. Do you judge everyone on what their family’s political views are?

      • olive says:

        why does meghan have to answer for her best friend’s in-law’s political views? what a tenuous link.

      • Mumbles says:

        I agree with you, but the sad truth is, rich people often befriend each other regardless of purported differences. Look at the Bushes and the Clintons, or Ellen DeGeneres hanging out with Bush, or the below comment about the Trudeaus and the Mulroneys. They have a lot more in common with each other than they do with us. Lol would Ellen be hanging out with a blue-collar guy who shares the same views as Bush, regardless of her “our common humanity unites us” crap?

        I suspect MM’s friendship with Mulroney was a bit businesslike. Mulroney is a fameball who glommed on to the pretty Hollywood actress who was filming a tv show in her city. MM welcomed the friendship as a way to meet a smart set of friends in a foreign city she was working in.

      • Mtec says:

        I would argue the royal family is also conservative. Should be fault Meghan for that too?

      • Babs says:

        I really really dislike when people completely dismiss someone based on which political party they support, especially in Canada.

        People are allowed different views. There are things in both parties I agree with and disagree with. Sometimes people vote for a party based on one or two beliefs. I have many friends who support different parties. I will remain friends with them because the are supportive, kind, and their actions speak louder than words. Plus having debates at times with them about politics helps us all learn and grown.

        I do have hard limits in that I would not be friends with clear, open racists or homophobics (e.g. violent ideologists). Though I really haven’t come across people like this. I come from a family in which my brother is gay, and that we have mixed race couples and families.

        This does not mean I won’t associate with people with racist bias (Grandma and a few people i know) or slightly homophobic (as in they aren’t 100% comfortable or make some outdated comments- poor grandma) instead I like to help them learn about why those views are not tolerated or accurate. I find these individuals it isnt hate they found their politics views on but lack of understanding and fear of the unknown.

      • Lia says:

        @mumbles you make a very good point. I guess my problem is that rich and famous people seem to get a somewhat pass on their associations. I mean MM puts herself out there as such a progressive and her best friend and husband are supporters of some of the most regressive politicians, I don’t get how?
        This reminds me of the when the Weeknd bashed trump on one of the late shows but then had no problem living in the Trump residence. I guess rich people have different rules for themselves.

      • Arpeggi says:

        It’d be weird if they were staying with Caroline because yes, she’s in active politics (and works for a monster), but Ben works for the Canadian version of ET and his wife is a stylist so they aren’t political figures. And it seems like Ben and JT get along because they’re part of a fairly exclusive club of kids of prime ministers and had to grow up at 24 Sussex (they were joking about how bad the place was when JT 1st got elected, Ben telling him that he hoped for his family’s sake that they wouldn’t stay there until it gets fully renovated). Plus, as the PM of a Commonwealth country, JT has little options but to acknowledge the presence of a royal, Harry’s grandma is Canada’s ruler after all

      • Sarah says:

        This is wild but…people in the same family can have different political views and values. Andrew and Sarah were actual friends with Epstein and did lots of shady and immoral shit, but Meghan’s friend’s husband’s sister is a trash MP? Come on.

      • stepup says:

        @Babs — Your sentiments are fine and on the surface seem fair and lovely. But its more complicated than that. Right now, at least in the United States, one of the parties is INHERENTLY racist and sexist. By definition, supporting the Republican party is the same as supporting racism. So it’s more than just “a different view.” A different view is “I like strawberries” v. “I like blueberries.” Political views, however, represent your worldview and how you see and treat other humans. It’s defining.

      • Jadedone says:

        Lia let’s also not forget that Daddy Mulroney stole $2 million dollars from Canadian citizens that helped pay for Ben’s fancy American education

      • Jadedone says:

        Also Brian Mulroney actually serenaded Trump at a fundraiser for Trump. Guys if you arent Canadian you probably won’t understand the terrible impact Mulroney had on our country. He is a Trump supporter and a thief and his son directly benefitted from it as did his sons wife. Megs friendship with the mulroneys is totally off brand. Also I have never seen anyone monetize a friendship as much as Jessica Mulroney.

      • Tourmaline says:

        Meghan has a best friend (Genevieve who was at Wimbledon with her this year) who is a high level Republican ‘bundler’ fundraiser. It seems that Meghan does not have a strict political litmus test for all her friends then.

      • Deezee says:

        That’s not Ben though. He has spoken in the past about not agreeing with his father and sister about politics. Ben is close to Justin and also to Seamus O’Reagan who is also now a member of the liberal party.

      • Jaded says:

        @Tourmaline: Maybe Meghan and Genevieve are mature enough to have put their political differences aside to maintain the friendship. People CAN do that you know…

      • Jadedone says:

        @deedee then why was his name brought up to replace Andrew Scheer as conservative leader? He said he had no interest but they wouldn’t suggest him if he wasnt conservative.

      • lookinglikeasnack says:

        @ Tourmaline: Yes, and MM featured Ivanka years ago in the Tig and was highly complimentary of the piece she wrote about her. I believe she was also gifted one of Ivanka’s bags.

      • Jadedone says:

        @jaded I dunno if I could be friendly with anyone who voted for or supported Trump. That would be a deal breaker for me in a friendship bc it shows a lack of empathy.

      • BabsORIG says:

        @Jadedone et al, but how is all this Meghan’s fault? So she can’t be friends with the Mulroneys because BM embezzled funds and is a friend of DT? So I suppose Meghan should be tarred and feathered because BM and his family are conservatives and they speak with Trump, and all that? Honestly I’m Canadian but I fail to see how all the Canadian politics you’ll discussing in this thread has anything to do with Meghan and Harry.

      • Jadedone says:

        @Babeorig we are stating that Megs friendship with the Mulroneys is off brand and not good optics. If we are outraged at Trump and his political actions as Canadians we have the right to be outragged by mulroney and his actions. Ben Mulroney and Jessica both directly gained from Brian Mulroneys theft from Canadians. I personally would have a hard time being friends with someone knowing that they stole money from needy Canadians to fund Ben’s fancy American education. Maybe Meg doesnt know the history but she should educate herself bc the Mulroneye are Canadas Trumps.

      • blue36 says:

        Other than Ben’s sister, none of the other Mulroneys are currently in politics, its weird people are trying to police who Meghan should be friends with. I highly doubt Meghan did a background check before she met Jessica and became friends with her. Are political affiliations now a criteria that has to met in order to be friends with someone? She has progressive views,yes, and if someone who is friends with her no longer fits with her “brand” – she should drop them? The tabloids would have a field day with that. Genevieve has been her friend since college (I think?) and Jessica may have been one of the first people she became friends with when she relocated to Canada. Why should she drop them? Because of Brian’s actions during his time as prime minister? Regarding the Trumps – seems like all the royals are steering clear of him, plus he is currently in office.

      • Tourmaline says:

        @jaded, No I absolutely do believe that Meghan and friends like Genevieve can put aside any political differences to be friends–because clearly they have! in 2016 Genevieve was fervently fundraising for the cause of making Wisconsin far right disaster governor Scott Walker the U.S. President (look him up if unfamiliar–rabidly anti-choice, rabidly anti-gay marriage). She was quoted in CNN and other stories at the time that she wanted him to be President. My only point was that it doesn’t surprise me if Meghan is friends with Canadians who lean politically to the right, because she is friends with Americans who are the same. It doesn’t surprise me at all who she is friends with actually.

      • bonobochick says:

        woof at this dog whistling.

        now folks are trying to police who Duchess Meghan can be friends with even though her friendship with Jessica has not been a secret.

        this is obviously folks just moving the goal posts to have a reason to criticize Duchess Meghan. Y’all ain’t slick.

      • kerwood says:

        There’s nobody in Canada who despises the Mulroneys more than me. I always said that one of these days we’ll discover that Brian Mulroney was an American agent. I can barely stand to look at Ben Mulroney. But Meghan is friends with Ben’s WIFE. I’m sure that Meghan had no idea what a scourge Brian Mulroney was to this country. Most Americans know little to nothing about Canadian politics. With the amount of shit that Meghan has put up with, I wouldn’t be surprised if she clung to her friends even more than before.

        As for Prime Minister Trudeau, I saw his tweet as a well-deserved dig at the British royal family and media who don’t wish the Sussex family well. I can’t help laughing at the people who are so ‘outraged’ over Trudeau’s adventures in blackface. Conservatives clearly thought Black people were so stupid that we would entertain for a single second that they (the Conservatives) cared about racism and had our best interests at heart. We haven’t forgotten Steven Harper. What Justin Trudeau did years ago was racist and offensive but he’s better for Black people than Scheer EVER would be and that’s why most of us held our noses and voted for Trudeau.

        The Mulroneys are capable of providing the Sussexes with privacy and peace. But even the Mulroneys can’t stop sleazy people from selling Harry, Meghan and Archie out to score points for themselves. I guess you can’t expect much from the kind of people willing to expose their children to a sex offender for a pap stroll.

      • stepup says:

        The Republican party in the U.S. is the party of “the Southern Strategy.” ( ) So yes, it’s fine to judge people for choosing that party. It’s fine to break friendships with people for opting to lean that way. It’s fine to shun such toxic people. And if Meghan welcomes those people into her life, well, it’s fine to feel some sort of way about that.

      • Shirleygailgal says:

        @Babs nicely said. Lines clearly drawn; love is at the forefront of your thoughtful reply.

      • stepup says:


        Love is my guiding force, too. Self-love.

        People always talk about eliminating “toxic” people from one’s life. Folks who support the BLATANT racism of today’s Republican party are, by definition, toxic.

        And people need to stop getting upset and defensive about the word “racism.” It is what it is, and if we, as a society, are really going to try to eradicate it, we need to start getting more comfortable with the word. Getting defensive and falling back on bromides will only ensure that it continues. Talking about it is the path to ending it.

        Accepting and excusing racism isn’t “love,” it’s “hate.”

      • Nic919 says:

        @kerwood I think you hit the nail on the head. Meghan getting tarnished because of her friend’s husband’s father is just bs. Didn’t Beatrice just go celebrate Boris Johnson’s win? That’s seems political to me and support of a conservative who has been openly racist and sexist.

        Canadian politics are different than the US and while I certainly don’t disagree with everyone slamming Brian Mulroney, it is totally unfair to condemn Jessica for what her father in law did in the 80s and 90s as PM.

      • stepup says:

        I think some of us don’t give a shit about her friendship with Jessica Mulroney, but are throwing a side-eye at Meghan’s close and continued friendship with a Trump-machine fundraiser.

      • Olenna says:

        Quote: “we are stating that Megs friendship with the Mulroneys is off brand and not good optics.” Optics? Who GAF? Do some of you even realize how ridiculous (and stubbornly anti-Meghan/Sussex) this sounds in light TQ’s coddling and sheltering of Pedo Andy? Or, the Keen’s recent showcasing of their children for PR and obviously supporting TQ in her efforts to keep Pedo Andy within the fold and the facade of her diminished integrity intact? Optics? Ole Queenie doesn’t seem to mind the optics surrounding her support for a pedophile, so why are any of you concerned about Meghan’s friendship with two women she’s known for quite some years. One last thing to note: TQ might not be “political” but she knows her constituents, and they are remaining as steadfast in their support as the IMPOTUS’ deplorables. These are the types of people–Brexiters, deplorables, xenophobes and racists–you should be questioning, not someone like Meghan who is minding her business as well as handling her business, and not hurting anyone.

      • stepup says:

        Olenna — Just because people are noting that Meghan’s embrace of active, fundraising Republicans is off-brand for the “WeLove” Sussex brand doesn’t mean anyone is giving that old ass of a pedo-covering queen any breaks. We just happen to be discussing the Sussexes right now.

      • Olenna says:

        @setup, I get it regarding the subject of this thread. But, at some linear point in the endless discussions of what Meghan doesn’t do right, a note on the real-life sh*t encompassing the BRF is needed for perspective. She has and is entitled to a personal life. In that, she has loyal friends, none of whom are known to have committed any crimes, and this notion that any number of degrees of separation from certain people is justification to censure her is reaching, IMO.

      • stepup says:

        Meh — It’s what we do on gossip sites. Opinionate and pick. And I guess it all comes down to one’s personal line. I, personally, can’t abide Trump-supporting Republicans. It crosses a moral line for me. It’s morally criminal, IMO. That doesn’t mean I hate or denounce Meghan, it just means I don’t respect her judgment in this one instance.

      • Olenna says:

        @stepup, understood, and I’ll concede her judgement is up for discussion. Anyway, I got a rum cake to make, so I’m outta here. Wishing you and all the other CBrs peace and happiness throughout the holidays and the New Year.

    • Snazzy says:

      I didn’t find it thirsty at all. He’ s the PM and they are royals FFS. Canada is still a constitutional monarchy so it make sense he would welcome them

    • girl_ninja says:

      How? He knows that they’re being treated like trash by the UK press. He’s extended encouragement to them.

    • Jaded says:

      The tweet came out AFTER KP announced that the Sussexes were in Canada. It’s a diplomatic thing for a Commonwealth country to do, especially since the British trash rags treated them so horribly. That he said “a QUIET Christmas…” speaks volumes. I am a Canadian and I think it’s wonderful that they chose Canada to spend this special time away from the dysfunctional royal family. Celebrities don’t get hounded here like they do in the US and UK.

      • Shirleygailgal says:

        same @Jaded. I agree. Are there any theories as to why celebrities don’t get hounded here like they do in the US and UK? Are Canadians really that much more polite? Or do we have better protection laws? Ryan Reynolds says the same thing, that he can walk down Robson Street and folks will nod, smile and still respect his personal space. I hope these three are breathing deeply and calmly and courageously making decisions for their futures. Best wishes to them. They are among friends when they are in Canada

      • Some chick says:

        Canada is just so much more chill. I’m surprised to hear this… mostly, because I’m surprised it leaked. What a BS move.

        Canada, tho… it’s perfect for xmas. It’s snowy and quiet and beautiful and people there are generally nice.

        Oh, & if someone wants to talk about who is friends with who… you could start with the Mountbattens. *cough*nazis*cough*

        Or Prince Potatohead. (I’m not coming after him for his appearance. I’m coming after him for having a potato for a brain.) But, noooooooo! It’s all – ALL – MEGHAN’S FAULT!
        I thought the JT comment was on point. He didn’t tweet it out the moment their plane touched down – it was in response to the (very uncool) leak. It was already being discussed and he said a nice thing. Basta.

    • Who ARE These People? says:

      I think it’s really sweet. They’re in Ontario, because one of Doug Ford’s people tweeted something out about that … she had no business doing that, so that really was thirsty.

      My guess is cottage country.

      • Erinn says:

        Hopefully nowhere near the trash known as the O’Leary’s

      • Nic919 says:

        Lisa Macleod, current minister of tourism who got moved to this position because she messed up the portfolio dealing with the parents of autistic children and being a generally horrible politician.

    • Marigold says:

      It didn’t strike me as thirst. It struck me as support and shade against the BRF for not openly being “friends” to the Sussexes, for not making sure they were “welcome here” in the UK.

      I thought it was a ballsy expression of the world’s unhappiness with how this woman is being treated in her new country by her in-laws.

    • Mustang Sally says:

      Thirsty? I call that kindness and being a gracious statesman. Considering the crap the Sussexes have endured from KP, I would not be shocked in the least if they decided to move there permanently.

      • Some chick says:


        Quit with the Megxit dog whistles.

        I would not be surprised by a lot of things. But I would be shocked if they actually left the BRF. I know a lot of people want that, but I don’t think Meg or Harry or HRH QE2 (or Harry’s dad) are among them.


  2. Royalwatcher says:

    So can we all agree now that the Cambs and KP have been behind all of the leaks? They are not even being subtle about it!! I’m so glad the Sussexes got the hell out of there!

    • Liz version 700 says:


    • patron st of gin says:

      The KP thing stunk to high heavens. When I saw that, I was so pissed why no one questioned why this information came from a different office, and not their office. How can they not recognize the game being played here.

    • kerwood says:

      Those people are so obsessed by the Sussex family that they can’t leave them alone even when they decide to take a break and leave the country. Are they trying to compromise the Sussexes’ safety or drive them back to England where the persecution can start all over again? That shoulder brush-off must have them REALLY panicked.

  3. S808 says:

    Yeah I think KP gave up their location in exchange for some good press especially after shruggate. I may not be crazy about W&K but I’ll never not be sad that they’re in bed with the tabloids. The tabloids are a beast that’ll never be full. They’ll always demand more and with the sussexes not playing ball i can only imagine the pressure to keep them fed. Sad.

    • Kittycat says:

      Yup. They are not even hiding it anymore.

    • BabsORIG says:

      Yep shruggate was proving to become a four headed beast, LOL. The Cambs needed a diversion somehow. So once again they sell out the Sussexes to take the heat off their marriage issues. Karmas gonna come for them regardless.

      • Mignionette says:

        Agreed. When Karma comes to collect, the bill will be heavy indeed.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        They even had TMZ sniffing around, which was hilarious. Not the type of attention W&K were hoping to get! I’m also waiting for the shit to hit the fan. It might take time, but it will happen at some point.

    • Nic919 says:

      They are setting up George , Charlotte and Louis for a hell of a time as they get older.

      • Brit says:

        Yep. I’m glad Archie won’t be involved in that mess. Harry and Meghan were geniuses to not give him a title. You keep him around the those kids and all his business will be leaked.

      • MerryGirl says:

        So true…I hope they can take it when the tabloid wolves come after their kids as they surely will. If they can’t respect their brother & SIL’s privacy while they are on leave, they better not cry for privacy for their kids later on. The press is a relentless beast, now they’ve shoved their kids in the spotlight to deflect from their family goings on, the press will expect access to them forever – they won’t be allowed to them switch on and off.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Yep. William either fails to realize that this quid pro quo is going to impact his own family (not just the Sussexes), or he just doesn’t care. The latter wouldn’t surprise me too much since he’s shown multiple times that he primarily cares about himself.

      • PrincessK says:

        Yes, it is very sad. William always said that he would not use his children in this way but now he is being forced to do so in order to bolster his flagging popularity in the face of the ever growing global appeal of the Sussexes. I have now lost count of the times these kids have been paraded either to boost the image of the parents or deflect attention from Andrew.

    • Flying Fish says:

      When the BP turn against the Dolittle’s, we all know that time will come, they’ll get no sympathy from me.

  4. Becks1 says:

    The leak definitely came from KP. Shame on them. The timing and the source (Rebecca English) just makes it too obvious.

    • RedRoyal says:

      Someone from Toronto leaked the whereabouts of the Sussexes. Read misskimisme’s tweets. She knew the Sussexes was in Toronto a few weeks ago. I believe she works for the airline.

      I am sure Rebecca asked KP about it.

      • Becks1 says:

        That person looks BSC and I cant believe I just wasted 5 minutes of my life reading her tweets. But it also seems that she said they were in Toronto, with no proof, and kept insisting they flew private, with no proof.

        Someone on twitter saying that H&M are in Toronto is very different from having it confirmed.

      • Iamcait says:

        I’m with you, becks!

      • Jaded says:

        There’s no proof. They could be in Ottawa, Vancouver, Collingwood for all we know.

      • Mac says:

        I assumed they were in Canada. Meghan has a lot of friends there and LA has way too much paparazzi. TMZ would pay plenty for a Sussex tip.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Take it back to tumblr with love and support for that particular person. There is no ‘evidence’ from that abusive, racist Meghan hater. She is not some insider with connections. Whatever she is saying, packs full of lies that it is, is to get attention for herself and to get the other haters to rally round.

  5. Toot says:

    Harry and Meghan have their location kept quiet since before Thanksgiving, but as soon as RRs have a briefing done at KP their country location is revealed.

    Rebbeca is completely up the ass of W&K, blatantly, so any exclusive she has comes directly from them.

    • S808 says:

      yeah people continue to give them the benefit of the doubt but the writing is on the wall. Has been since the budget flight fiasco imo.

      • Some chick says:

        Agree, S808.

        Just curious… are you from Hawaii, the “808 State” (or perhaps an old skool techno fan?)

    • Nic919 says:

      Rebecca still uses a pic of W and K as her Twitter profile pic which would be extremely unprofessional for an actual reporter. She’s not different than a fan girl at this point.

  6. Lummy dee says:

    If you have been following the Sussexes, you will notice that they themselves have given hints that they were in Canada. During the Thanksgiving holidays, Meghan posted pictures of maple leaves on their Instagram which was a very not subtle hint that they were in Canada, given that maple leaves are majorly used in Canada during Thanksgiving. It was their fans that begun the speculation after that post that they were in Canada. The second hint was that Harry’s wiki page was updated on the 10th of this month with info that monarchists in Canada wanted him to be the governor general. Their fans connected the dots from the update on his page and the posting of maple leaves on their Instagram to speculate their location.

    • Erinn says:

      “given that maple leaves are majorly used in Canada during Thanksgiving”
      WHAT? LMFAO. I’ve never seen maple leaves used for thanksgiving (which is in OCTOBER – if anything it’s just an autumn decoration). Kids will cut out leaves and stuff in school to celebrate fall, but I don’t think anyone is like “hey, it’s thanksgiving, better crack out the maple leaves”.

      “The second hint was that Harry’s wiki page was updated on the 10th of this month with info that monarchists in Canada wanted him to be the governor general”
      That sounds like some rabid fan making wiki edits – not necessarily anything related to reality. I cannot imagine that EVER happening.

      Source: My entire 29 years spent as a Canadian.

      • ShazBot says:

        hahaha I agree Erinn. That is some major conspiracy stuff going on.

        Also I think it’s funny that everyone is like “we found them, they’re in CANADA!!” As if Canada isn’t 10 million square kilometers lol
        Needle, meet haystack.
        I hope they stay undercover and nobody gets a picture.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Shazbot – that is cracking me up too. I think William/KP leaked the info, but knowing they’re in Canada doesnt give reporters a lot to go on. I assume they are in the Toronto area, but maybe not. And its not like Toronto is a small town either.

      • Erinn says:

        I’ve been keeping a secret. They’re currently hiding out in my basement. It’s unseasonably warm today, so it was a great decision on their part to come here.

        My guess is TO, also, Becks, but I could easily see them hanging out in Quebec or even Vancouver. Vancouver would put them a bit closer to her mother, but it’s possible Doria could be flying into Canada for a visit as well. Ben Mulroney is from Quebec I believe, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a second home or cottage there as well as Toronto.

      • Arpeggi says:

        Also, does anyone really celebrate Thanksgiving in Canada? I know I don’t, I’m just happy for the 3-days weekend but that’s about it. I certainly don’t collect leaves for my Thanksgiving ornaments

        @Erinn, I doubt they’d come to Quebec, even if Ben had a cottage here. Even if sovereignty isn’t a popular option these days, the BRF isn’t very loved in the province. I doubt they’d go vacationing in Ireland for similar reasons

      • Katarina says:

        Lol maple leafs used at thanksgiving. I think maybe she posted a maple leaf because it’s on our flag.

        I’m glad they are in Canada. We welcome them and respect their privacy.

      • Jadedone says:

        Okay Canadian here and as kids we always cut out maple leafs out of construction paper around Thanksgiving. They are probably at some fancy house in Whistler or Lake Louise. I sincerely doubt they would be in a populated area like Toronto or Vancouver as it would probably harder for them to stay undercover.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Same. Maple leafs are used like crazy to say “Canada” but are not a particularly Thanksigiving motif, and besides Canadian Thanksgiving is early October. She may have been hinting at their location but not because of Thanksgiving.

      • Mac says:

        Americans strongly associate maple leaves with Canada. Mounties and maple leaves.

      • Grey says:

        @Erinn, I actually lol’ed at “better crack out the maple leaves” haha. Also a fellow Canadian over here!!

      • Shirleygailgal says:

        100% @Erinn….based on my 65 years as a Canadian, I concur with your conclusion

    • joanne says:

      What are maple leaves used for? How are they used majorly? I’ve never seen them used during Thanksgiving. I must be a bad Canadian and not up on my maple leaf usage. Also, Canadian Thanksgiving is in early October, not November.

    • Bookworm says:

      I don’t think it has anything to do with Thanksgiving, but a maple leaf is obviously a symbol of Canada so I believe she was signaling that.

      • joanne says:

        She said maple leaves are used majorly in Canada during Thanksgiving. First, Canadian Thanksgiving is in October and second, no one uses maple leaves for Thanksgiving. The maple leaf is on our flag, it has nothing to do with Thanksgiving. Please don’t explain Canadian traditions to Canadians.

      • Bookworm says:

        I said the emoji wasn’t related to Thanksgiving but to Canada itself. I didn’t reference Canadian Thanksgiving at all, since it’s common knowledge that American Thanksgiving is weeks later.

        I was actually disagreeing with the original post.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        Bookworm I also took the maple leaf to be a bat signal that they were in Canada too.

        Love JT’s shade.

    • Bea says:

      @Arpeggi I’m also Canadian and most folks I know celebrate Thanksgiving with a traditional dinner. And when I lived in the States enough Canadians in my city missed it enough that we all got together and had a “Canadian Thanksgiving” in October with about 13 pumpkin pies, lol.

    • Jaded says:

      I don’t think you’re Canadian. If not, please don’t speak for our culture. We don’t use maple leaves as a Thanksgiving avatar. BTW, there are maple trees all over the US too. New England is famous for its trees changing colour in the fall.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        We do use the Maple Leaf as an avatar but on our flag. But yes, it doesn’t signal Thanksgiving, and yes, they’re all over New England too.

    • Smices says:

      The maple leaf is a pretty common American Thanksgiving image. Right behind the turkey and the cornucopia.

  7. Margo Smith says:

    I love Trudeau so much.

  8. Kittycat says:

    Kensington Palace really are pathetic. William and Kate had the spotlight but they leak information about the Sussexes.

    But at least the Sussexes were ready for them to leak.

  9. Erinn says:

    Or maybe Jessica ran her mouth to a friend. Or maybe a flight attendant, or a caterer, or any other person who may have had contact with them. There’s plenty of possibilities – they’ve had to have encountered at least a handful of people over the last couple of weeks – any one of them could have let something slip. Could still be KP, but it could be SO many other people, too.

    • sunny says:

      True but the timing element matters and the timing is beyond suspect as is the source that broke the story. *Shrug*

    • Mego says:

      Uhm. No. It was KP all the way. They need the press to help turn around the negative stories about Kate shrugging off William.

    • BabsORIG says:

      @Erin, naaahhh, Jess might be a lot of things but she wouldn’t have waited for shruggate to be worldwide headlines. Once all papers and news outlets covered shruggate nonstop, I knew the Cambs would sh!+ their pants and find some way to get the attention off of their issues.

      • Jaded says:

        Exactly. We all knew William would find some way to throw them under the bus from a distance. The chasm between the brothers is getting wider and wider all the time.

      • Mac says:

        Shruggate did not make worldwide headlines. It was a minor gossip story.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Shruggate made tabloids and morning shows outside the UK, including horrible TMZ. Yes, W&K wanted a distraction from it and throwing Meghan and Harry under the bus was their answer.

      • BabsORIG says:

        Huh? You not serious with that @Mac, right? Shruggate was covered by MOST major news outlets worldwide. CNN, CBS, Fox, HP, British tabloids, TMZ etc lots of them covered it and for days.

    • Erinn says:

      Alright, fair enough. It does come off as a bit suspicious given RE’s exclusive. I had read in a Canadian news article on Friday that they were in Canada, so I didn’t realize that she was at the front of the charge.

      • Becks1 says:

        Yeah, its the combo of the source and the timing. Any other reporter with the info? Any other time other than right after a press briefing with KP? And then we got that ridiculous over the top article about Will and Kate from English.

        Its not that it has to have been leaked by KP overall, but given these circumstances, that seems most likely.

      • Erinn says:

        Agreed Becks. Because I read about this a couple of days ago on CTV I think, I just assumed it was released by the Sussex family reps and it was a large roll out, not a specific reporters scoop. But given RE’s history I now get why it’s suspicious haha.

        I’m also suffering on day two of a hangover (I haven’t really been hungover in YEARS, most likely I’m just dehydrated today) because apparently I’m a genius who thinks they can still drink like they did in college, so I’m admittedly not at my sharpest.

      • Jaded says:

        @Erinn: Funny, I have a hangover too. Had some friends over for a dinner party last night and the wine was flowing. You’d think at 67 I’d know not to mix copious amounts of red wine and prosecco.

    • Jen says:

      If it were just about any reporter but Rebecca English with the scoop, I would agree with you. But her fingerprints being on it definitely make me think it is KP.

    • Maria says:

      This was KP.
      As for Jessica running her mouth to a friend – she has other high profile clients/friends and I’m sure knows how to be discreet.

    • Nahema says:

      If this did come from KP, it seems rather stupid and obvious. I mean does William not even care that Harry would know he’s leaking the info?

  10. Ohpioneer says:

    But how does it benefit the Cambridges to leak this information? You would think the fact that the Sussexes have been almost totally out of the news cycle leaving the Cambridge’s free to dominate with their goings on would have delighted William. Why drop Harry & Megan back into the headlines?

    • Peg says:

      The media was still making Harry and Meghan the story.
      Poor Philip being admitted to the hospital and if he dies, Harry is out of the country, mind you his wife just left London and his four grown children are in the country, it seems that Harry is the only grandchild that matters to the press.

    • MEL says:

      Something, anything to deflect from the awkward Kate shoulder flinch. And it worked perfectly. Rebecca English’s piece was personal and viscious and she seemed to be hurting personally that people dared question the Cambridges marriage. It was full of personal attacks on the Sussexes. Why is William, who is in good terms with these people, allowing them to continue to drive a wedge between him and his brother…all for a bit of positive press.

      • Mignionette says:

        I think very often people forget that Lilibet, Chuck and Bill have been groomed from birth to separate their somatic self from their regnal persona. I think the Crown had a scene that illustrated this perfectly when Cecil Beaton was taking a picture of the newly crowned Queen Elizabeth. He first takes a picture of Elizabeth and then she visibly changes persona and he takes another picture of ‘the Crown’.

        This is what I believe allows members of the RF to make such calculating PR decisions, because essentially there is that compartmentalization of person and Crown. When you add the Courtiers into the mix, every decision that is potentially seen as cold and calculating from a humanistic perspective, then becomes allowable under the guise of the preservation of the Crown.

        That being said, I am going to guess that the spares have an awful lot of mental health/ personality and identity issues. Princess Margaret essentially died an un-purposeful woman and Harry is now fighting for the right to be defined as a man of purpose despite the fact the very notion is seen as an attack on his brothers court and potential future reign.

        The UK Monarchy and its insistence on primogeniture is broken and has been broken for decades, yet we continue to limp along with this tired old institution which is clearly not fit for purpose.

      • Tourmaline says:

        Rebecca English’’s article was interesting because basically everything she says on the Cambridges can be seen as their handcrafted small batch talking points. Interesting they are still complaining about how Harry brought Meghan into the BRF without Cambridge vetting “‘they only got to meet her 4 or 5 times before secretive Harry proposed!’ Is part of the article.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate could have bonded with Meghan and gone shopping with her, but if she can’t even be bothered to give the girl a ride to the store, it’s not Meghan fault that they feel they don’t know her.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Nic919, that would require Kate to show friendliness towards another woman. That isn’t going to happen.

    • rayner says:

      The problem, Ohpioneer, is you’re trying to think about things in a logical and consistent manner.

    • bamaborn says:


    • Scorpio ♏️ Rants says:

      Common……meet sense.

      Good point. These threads are so stupefying sometimes in their yeah Team Sussex, boo Team Cambridge vibe. Do we really have to choose a team?

      I’m a Team Popcorn and just here for the comments.🤷‍♀️

    • notasugarhere says:

      Shruggate, Rose, the failed pigeon couple PR push, the expensive freebie skiing holiday coming up, still no Broken Britain – Early childhood deliverables, Kate the silent 1950s housewife theme that is cropping up repeatedly, the second director in four months quitting the W&K Foundation, the lingering questions around that Foundation and why the Sussexes had to publicly state the Hubb money was being protected from the rest of the Foundation.

      Plenty of reasons why W&K are hungering for good PR and throwing the Sussex group under the bus.

    • PrincessK says:

      When l read Daily Mail stories there is often a subtext which actually seems to be setting the Cambridge’s up for a fall. DM cares about itself first and foremost before the monarchy, DM is out to make money and the Cambridge’s don’t sell, Sussexes do.

      Some of the captions on the stories about Charlotte and George were terrible, making out Kate was telling them off or that the kids were deliberately pulling faces.

      If the Cambridge’s think DM is their friend they are fools.

  11. TheOriginalMia says:

    The timing is too coincidental for me to believe this didn’t come from William and KP. If people saw them, they respected their privacy and didn’t sell them out to the press. One briefing, shortly after shruggate and the Christmas luncheon, and the DM has an exclusive. Nah. I don’t believe in coincidences. And now, I’m wondering what don’t we, the public, know. What scandal, besides the current ones, is about to be exposed? Because we know how effective a shield Harry & Meghan have been to the Cambridges, especially William.

    • Becks1 says:

      *adjusts tinfoil tiara*

      I’m also wondering what scandal is coming down the pipeline. It just feels like something is about to break. I cant think of what though.

      • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

        Did another Rose Bush come into bloom? 🤔🙄

      • Iris says:

        @Becks1 my **tinfoil tiara** says that the announcements will be the official changing of the goes.
        1) Charles will be named Regent.
        2) PW and KM will be elevated to PP of Wales (hence George’s public grooming).
        3) PH and MM will be named Heads of the Commonwealth (Reporting to the Crown similar to a corporate structure).
        Tinfoil tiara remains firmly on my head until these predictions come true.
        Happy Holidays Celebitches!!

      • Sassy says:

        They can’t be heads of the commonwealth they have to be voted in and they already voted that Charles will be next. Bill will ship them off somewhere before they get a chance to be voted in before him.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Interesting thoughts @Iris. But if this big announcement really does involve a changing of the guards, this seems like a very strange way to go about it. The past week has been an odd one in terms of PR strategies. Personally I don’t know what to make of it. Many commenters here have said that they expected the Cambridges to be in the spotlight more. I also find it odd that they haven’t taken advantage of the Sussexes’ vacation to make some strategic appearances. It seems like they’re not as active as they usually are at this time of year, when they try to run up their numbers to make it look like they’ve been working hard.

      • Lady D says:

        Maybe they think they don’t have to try anymore? If ever there is a whiff of bad press, they just throw H &/or M under a bus. These two will have to do barely anything again as long as Meghan is around to be attacked.

    • The Original Mia says:

      @Iris, that’s good speculation, but I don’t see the Queen formally abdicating or officially stating Charles in Regent. I fully believe he’s the Regent now, but it won’t ever be finalized.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Also a good point. The only realistic scenario where we’ll see the Queen abdicate is one in which she is no longer capable of doing her usual appearances. She already has her courtiers running much of the show, but if/when she can’t even do appearances like Prince Philip, then it will be time for some tough discussions on abdication.

    • Jan says:

      Charles is still Prince of Wales as Regent though. He’d just be know as HRH The Prince Regent. The title doesn’t go to William until it merges with the Crown.

      • The Original Mia says:

        Thanks, Jan. That’s what I thought, but I’m American, so wasn’t sure if I was correct.

      • Nic919 says:

        This is what happened when George IV was Prince Regent for his father. He remained the Prince of Wales until his father died.

  12. Peg says:

    I think they laid down the ground work, that they would be spending the time in Cali knowing the the BM would fall for it, hook, line and sinker and the folks at BP and KP would leak their whereabouts sooner or later.
    The BM probably had Thomas all wired up to show up at Doria’s house and cause drama, but the Sussexs are good at planning.

  13. Zapp Brannigan says:

    “You’re among friends” I see what you did there, Justin.

  14. Rogue says:

    As I said a few weeks ago, if the press had known where they were they would publish it. Royal reporters had previously speculated they were in US, English had said before they were in a foreign location and one said on a TV show on Thursday (?) that they would be spending Christmas in an undisclosed location. Reporters have this KP briefing and suddenly they have this tea? It’s pretty obvious.

    Are the reporters saying Kate and William arent the star couple now? They’ve mainly had the spotlight since they married.

    • Peg says:

      Of course they know kate and william don’t bring in the $$$$.
      They could be King and Queen Consort, and they would still be milk toast.

      • Brit says:

        Exactly. The know who the real money makers are and they are angry that they’re not playing the game. Bullying, extorting etc is not bringing the Sussexes to the table.

  15. kelleybelle says:

    I can’t see that William is “screwing over” Harry this time, really. And the privacy is not only to safeguard them from the press but rather the Markles too. We don’t want any squawking from that camp either. It’s been blessedly quiet. I hope it remains so. I can see them spending a lot of time with Ben and Jessica Mulroney in Toronto.

    • carmen says:

      The Mulroneys usually spend Christmas in Palm Springs with the senior Mulroneys and JM indicated that was coming up soon. Canada is a pretty big place so they could be anywhere.

      • kelleybelle says:

        That’s true, but I figure they’re besties and take the opportunities to see each other when they can.

  16. Brit says:

    It was obvious who leaked the location and I personally think the media blackmailed the Cambridge’s to give them that information because that shrug went viral around the world, which brought up the cheating rumors again. The Cambridge’s are stuck now and were morons to even deal with the press because they’ll be in debt to them for the rest of their lives. At this point, the media only support the Cambridges as a means to attack the Sussexes. Rebecca’s Article sounded more like bragging, mixed with ass kissing on the media’s part that they’re in bed with Cambridge’s and that the Sussexes need to follow their example. This all comes back to access and getting the Sussexes to comply but even then, I think they know it’s not working. No one buys the Kate and William fantasy, no matter how many times the press tries to embiggen them.

    • S808 says:

      There’s a line in Rebecca’s article about The Cambridge’s “much more healthy relationship with the media” man, the tabloids own them. I absolutely think they were blackmailed into giving up where the sussexes were. If anyone had talked their location would’ve been made known WEEKS prior.

      • Brit says:

        Exactly. It makes no sense that William, whose been anti press just as much as Harry is suddenly allowing the media so much access. Something has happened and they’ve been forced into it. The media has the Cambridge’s in their soap opera game but they want the bigger stars involved and they aren’t doing it. I could see Harry and William having a rift due to this situation.

      • Becks1 says:

        That line was so funny considering how notoriously private the Cambridges are and how much William dislikes the press. So, what about the relationship makes it healthier? Oh yes, he’s willing to make deals and play ball with them (i.e. “dont talk about Rose, here’s a photo op with my kids.” “stop talking about shruggate, they’re in Canada.”)

      • Peg says:

        The BM is still pissed that they could not make any money off of Archie’s pictures, they could only use them for a limited time, Meghan and Harry own the rights.
        They by pass the BM by using their Instagram account with copyright pictures, they have more followers than most of the tabloids.

      • Nic919 says:

        William threatened to sue them over human rights earlier this year so saying it’s a healthy relationship is insane.

      • leigh says:

        I see Carole’s hand in Will’s new-found cooperation with the press. When the Rose shunning blew up in Kate’s face, coupled with Meghan’s impressive debut as a royal workhorse, Carole probably thought it was time for a deal with the press. After all, Diana did work with the press–with varying results of course–but Carol strikes me as having just enough hubris to think she can avoid Diana’s mistakes. She may have convinced Wills they could dole out little tidbits of info/happy family photos in exchange for some embiggening of Kate and besmirching of the DOS. I picture Wills and Carole on the phone all the time plotting their next move.

    • Mignionette says:

      Jesus – I wish I could thank this post 1000x . I have said this very same thing again and again. The Cambs got into bed with the press as a means of suppressing the news about Bill’s indiscretions. Problem is when you sup with the Devil you need a very large spoon, because it’s a beast that is never satiated.

      Now Bill is essentially the b*tch of the UK press. When the say ‘jump’ he says ‘how high’. At some point he will have to accept that his tidbits will never be enough and they will throw him under the bus.

      Personally I could not give up my power to anyone in that way, I’d rather leak the story myself in a controlled manner and ride it out.

    • Shirleygailgal says:

      “No one buys the Kate and William fantasy, no matter how many times the press tries to embiggen them.” My beloved british mum (in Cornwall) does. Thinks Kate is ‘lovely’ and wishes ‘that other boy’ would ‘settle down’ and ‘be quiet’. Honestly doesn’t see the racist ‘dog-whistles’ and when I tried to point them out to her, thought I was being ‘silly’ and ‘picky’. Seems to me the 80 year olds are the ones supporting both Brexit (they remember when they were not part of the EU) and the Royals.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        It seems like W&K have made a conscious decision to appeal to the demographic you’ve described. It’s basically the group that they are most popular with. The problem is that if/when they take the throne, most of those people will not be there to cheer them on.

      • MerryGirl says:

        Now ain’t that the problem…. at some point these old generation ‘Royalists’ will die out and who will the younger and more diverse British populace prefer? A passionate couple who connects with people and produces results with their causes? or a stiff robotic couple who can’t be bothered to do above the bare minimum? I can still recall the screams of the young teenage audience when Harry ‘dragged his wife’ on stage at an event a year or so ago. Seems to me the Sussexes capture the young locally and the audience globally – no wonder the British press are sour they have no access to them…they may embiggen the Cambridges but they know the money to be made and interest is on the Sussexes.

  17. carmen says:

    I’m glad to see the media is not stalking them and is giving them space. As far as the public is concerned, I don’t know whether to be amazed or impressed that there hasn’t been a cell phone photo posted on social media somewhere. No matter where the couple are, they are bound to be seen by someone – unless they are are staying on some kind of gated compound in the middle of nowhere..

    • Jaded says:

      The Canadian press isn’t like the UK or US press, they’re much more low key, and most Canadians are quite nonchalant about celebrities, so coming to Canada was a brilliant move by Harry and Meghan. They’re obviously staying with friends rather than taking over a suite of rooms at the Royal York or some such thing, if Toronto is actually where they are.

      • Izzy says:

        If any if the British press make their way over and try to harass them, I hope someone tasers their bitch reporter asses.

  18. Peg says:

    There are no photos of Doria in Cali, because the tabloids most likely had her house staked out from the beginning of November.
    Life is funny, Meghan and Harry made World Wide for staying in Canada, on Twitter people were tweeting their Countries with the video or newspaper.

  19. Enn says:

    Eh. I have a feeling it’s meant to distract from the fact that Andrew is going to Christmas. Still possible it was leaked by KP, but I think they all know that Randy Andy is the bloated, criminal elephant in the center of the room and the BRF is desperate to shift attention anywhere else.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Phil checked himself into the hospital because Lilibet refuses to forbid Pedo Andy’s presence.

    • Guest2.0 says:

      I think both can be true. The Sussexes location was leaked to distract from both pedo Andy and the Cambridge’s marital issues.

    • BabsORIG says:

      Andre is old news at the moment unless he does something stupid. Leaking the Sussexes whereabouts wouldn’t deflect from Andrew walking at Christmas. If they wanted to deflect from Andrew, they wouldn’t have leaked that almost a week before Andrew does the walk. This is a leak to deflect from the already hot news of the Cambridges marital issues. Kate giving Billy the cold shoulder IS the news right now, TMZ and other snoop dogs snooping around has the Camds worried. They think and hope leaking the Sussexes whereabouts will throw the scent hounds off the trail.

    • RoyalBlue says:

      The BP are trying to bully the Sussexes To return in time for the Christmas walk to take the heat off the rest of the family. When Andrew does his walk out the church with the family or when Bill and Kate look stiff with their forced smiles or if Charlotte sticks out her tongue they need the Sussexes to be present to take the whippings instead. So desperate are they that they are using The Duke of E to lure them back. His wife isn’t even doing a bedside vigil (maybe his mistress is there) but they expect Harry to.

  20. Mika says:

    Guys, everyone knew they were in TO. I can tell you right now – they are with Ben Mulroney and Jessica Brown Mulroney at Bathurst and Dupont. I know that Megan is the “American Princess” but she has always been very open about the fact that she’s considered Toronto home for a long time. This is where she and Harry were able to date in almost-secret for months. Not to mention, as the son of a former PM, Ben Mulroney is able to quietly get security and help them lay low.

    • carmen says:

      I thought the Mulroneys lived in the Moore Park area. In any case, they go to Palm Springs for Christmas and JM indicated as much recently

      • Mika says:

        I’m so sorry. Megan used to live at Bathurst and Dupont. Not the Brown-Mulroneys. That said, I have been told they are together, and were sighted at Ezra’s on Dupont.

    • Becks1 says:

      Also, as of a week ago, Jessica was traveling for work – for her new Netflix series. I believe that H&M have spent time with the Mulroneys, but I dont think they’ve been hiding out with the Mulroneys for the past month.

    • sammiches says:

      Imagine spending that much time with a dip like Ben Mulroney :D

  21. Nev says:

    I love that they are here in Canada!!!!

  22. Mignionette says:

    It burns the UK press that H&M’s behavior does not fit their pre-set narrative. It literally took weeks for them to work out where the ‘showy Hollywood’ couple were and still there are no pictures….

    • Brit says:

      And still no Christmas card and only video of Harry playing Santa, which was released on social media. The media is also mad because they make them look stupid because they have no access or clue about what is going on. I think Harry and Meghan are truly done with the BM at this point and the press knows it. They know they aren’t dropping the lawsuits and aren’t inviting them over for tea. It’s done.

      • Bookworm says:

        I do think the lack of Christmas card is not very nice to all of us who do support them though.

      • Olenna says:

        I do not understand your comment. Are you (or an organization you’re a part of) or were you expecting to be on the Sussexes Christmas card mailing list or are you disappointed not to see a photo of their card that is sent to those who are on the list?

      • L84Tea says:

        Bookworm, I think you will survive without a card from the Sussexes. I promise, your Christmas season will remain in tact.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        @Bookworm, LOL please. Your history of passive aggressive comments regarding the Sussexes indicate that you’re anything BUT a supporter of them.

      • Olenna says:

        @Beach Dreams, thank you. I was trying to hold on to my Christmas spirit by being charitable towards all manner of illogical thinking, but you got me LOL with your directness!

      • Bookworm says:

        To all of you kind people who responded to my comment, sure I’m disappointed not to see a Christmas photo of the Sussex family. Aren’t you all too? I bet Archie is adorable.

        “The organization I belong to” lol – yes, the organization of Celebitchy readers.

      • notasugarhere says:

        They may release a New Year card, Brit, we don’t know.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Christmas card was just shared by one of their charities.

      • Olenna says:

        Well, I’m not disappointed to not see a Christmas card that wasn’t sent to me. However, a new family photo is always nice, but also not necessary. Anyway, as @notasugarhere noted, a family photo from their card has been posted and Archie is just adorable (and likely to steal the royal holiday show in spite of the petty treachery of kin).

      • Shirleygailgal says:

        Christmas card is delivered! it’s cute! and now they are saying DoS photoshopped her face into it FFS!! UGH
        Quick question is the abbreviation BM short for the daily mail? as in ‘bowel movement’?

      • Lady D says:

        LOL. It stands for British Media, although I do like your explanation too, Shirleygailgal.

  23. Marie says:

    I feel bad that Harry has a brother like Will. He is such a snake.

    • Mego says:

      Me too. It begs the question why would William know their location? Perhaps it will be a lesson to Harry that he cannot trust William. Why hasn’t he figured that out yet!?

      • Shirleygailgal says:

        Because he loves him, and hopes and hopes and hopes he’ll actually do the right thing, so keeps giving him chances to do the right thing and keeps getting kicked in the head. Being the younger sibling can be hard, being referred to as ‘spare’ your whole life and being treated so differently can only add layers to their relationship. But Harry loves his brother and wants him to do better, I believe, so he keeps giving Wm the benefit of the doubt

  24. Elaine Stritch says:

    I live in Toronto and people have known for a while. I’ve had a few people mention it to me. They haven’t hidden anything over here. Anyone (reporters) who knows anything about Meghan would know who else to ask. Also, Jessica Mulroney is notoriously thirsty and big-mouthed about stuff like this in social circles. The leak could have been anyone.

    • Peg says:

      Poor Jessica getting blame for a KP leak.
      It’s not like Meghan and Harry are on prison break, oops they are.

      • ME says:

        Prison? Really? They live very privileged lives and for FREE at that. Far from any prison. They are free to travel and do as they like, which is exactly what they are doing right now.

      • DD says:

        It’s not prison

      • LindaS says:

        Not like any prison I ever heard of. Fancy clothes, servants, great food, together as a family, flights where ever they want to go. I could go on. Its not prison.

      • Maria says:

        Children are kept separate, you have to change clothes several times a day, there are in-jokes that are meant to exclude members they don’t like, shooting whether you want to or not, and a bunch of family members who are leaking stories all about you to the press to prop themselves up, everyone is forced to watch the Queen’s speech, everyone judges the gifts you give since “real” gifts aren’t encouraged — Christmas at Sandringham sounds like it’d be a prison to Harry and Meghan and I don’t blame them for not going.

      • Jadedone says:

        Maria – spend some time at a real prison with its bug infestations and inedible food and suddenly changing clothes and listening to the Queen might sound as bad.

      • Maria says:

        I do actual work with inmates and help provide books and materials for them. I’m aware of what a prison looks like. I think it’s obvious that the term was used facetiously.
        But let’s be honest — it would feel like a prison to me, if I was expected to be buddy buddy with people who were leaking the locations of my trips and the details of my work, enabling people to send even more death threats and god knows what else.

      • Jadedone says:

        @Maria personally I dont appreciate when people say “it’s like prison” flippantly. Prison is hard, its physically and emotionally draining and of course dangerous. To compare it to going to palace for Christmas really diminishes what people in prison are experiencing. People whose biggest crime was using a different address to get there kid into a better school. Having spent time visiting inmates I wouldn’t compare anything to prison, it’s an experience that is unique and horrifying.

      • Maria says:

        I think you’re only upset at this because it’s referring to Harry and Meghan, frankly.

      • Jadedone says:

        Or maybe I actually understand the hardship of prison time. I also dont appreciate when people say “I feel raped”. Its indictive of not having a proper understanding of the trauma associated to that incident. I’m sorry you feel that my compassion for others is rooted in petty gossip.

      • Maria says:

        LOL. Sure, Jan.

      • Jadedone says:

        Maria you must be fun at parties. Sorry your compassion is only available for Meg and Harry and furiously defending them on the internet. I also dont believe for a second that you have ever worked directly with any inmates bc if you had you wouldn’t use such terms flippantly.

      • Maria says:

        Actually, it’s because there are more important issues than inmates face than people comparing a royal Christmas to an institution, such as lack of proper wages, proper heating and cooling, family and friend communication, access to votes, access to books, so, you know, getting hyped up over a simile to virtue signal on a gossip site isn’t really what change is about, but you do you.

        Have a nice holiday.

      • Jadedone says:

        More important issues that inmates face and yet you still compared it to spending Christmas at a palace. If you are aware of all those persistent and ongoing issues how could you possibly make the comparison? Also you dont know me or how choose to give back in society, so dont give me the bull virtue signaling thing bc that’s you deflecting from a real issue that you choose minimize.

      • Joanna says:

        C’mon guys, I love Harry and Meghan but you guys are being way over the top dramatic with your comments. We all know real prison is no picnic but being under the microscope like the royals are, would be too much for me. I would feel trapped. No amount of pretty clothes changes that. Lighten up and drink some spiked punch! 🙂

    • S808 says:

      Jessica is one of Megan’s closet friends and probably has known their travel plans long before any of us or the media did. if she spilled we would’ve known before they even left for the airport.

    • kelleybelle says:

      Jessica, as one of Meghan’s best friends, I doubt would leak ANYthing.

    • Iris's Grandaughter says:

      Nice try @ElaineStritch. KP leaked it to distract for ShruggGate and any other Gate that they and Carole Middleton would like to distract us from. BTW, DD of Sussex have already left Canada as they knew that it would only be a matter of time before DD of Cambridge sold them out. Good luck trying to find them Rebecca English et al.

    • Jaded says:

      Then why isn’t Jessica all over social media blathering about the Sussexes? She is one of Meghan’s closest friends and wouldn’t be if she was a leaker. It was William leaking to KP, mark my words. The rift is growing bigger and bigger every day. William had better learn that when you try to ruin someone out of jealousy or competitiveness it comes at a big price, and revenge is a dish best served cold.

    • BabsORIG says:

      @Elaine Stritch, I live in Mississauga but work in Toronto and Scarborough. I’m in downtown Toronto 6days out of 7 a week and I have no idea what you talking about. So no, not everyone that lives in Toronto knows or has always known where the Sussexes are at.

    • kerwood says:

      Nobody in Toronto is talking about the Sussexes. I have family and good friends that live in that neighbourhood and they haven’t said a word. Everyone I know likes Meghan and Harry, if they were in Toronto, I’d hear about it from one of them.

      Also, some AMERICANS might want to believe that Toronto is a small town but it’s not. It’s a huge international city full of people from all over the world. There’s no way the Sussexes would be in Toronto and it be kept a secret.

      • carmen says:

        That’s why I think it’s strange that John Tory would welcome them – unless he was reasonably confident they were there. Also, the Star had a tweet that said something along the lines of they are “in town” – not in Canada, but T.O. specifically.

  25. Rogue says:

    If it was well known they were in Canada why has it only just come out in mainstream now? it made news in lots of different countries over the weekend so I’m sure press would have been willing to pay for this info earlier and doubt the average joe would have passed that up.

    The line about healthier press relationship& how William is hugely grateful felt almost like blackmail. William suggested around the Diana documentary that she made a mistake getting too close to the press and how it’s hard to get the press out once you let them in. He also talked about wanting to protect his kids from press intrusion. I recently read a story about him having to be restrained from launching at paps when he was quite young.

    I always said I can understand practically William being less ambivalent to the press than Harry as William may need pro monarchy press on side to sponsor his reign, but what’s the cost of this ‘healthier relationship’ with the press?

    • Becks1 says:

      Yeah I think people are misunderstanding what some of us mean when we say KP leaked it. Its not that no one in the world knew where they were and it was a total and complete mystery.

      The press did not know (at least, none of the RRs, maybe Scobie knew.) So to the extent they are in Toronto and people have seen them, it clearly hasnt been on a large scale in highly public ares where people could take lots of pictures.

      But now, the press knows. And its possible that someone in Toronto saw them and spilled the info to Rebecca English, but its more probable that she was given the info directly from KP (again, timing.)

      • Rogue says:

        @Becks- my point is for those saying everyone knew they were in Canada. I don’t think many of the royal reporters did and that’s why when they got that detail it was splashed straight away.

        I imagine they’ve kept low key enough but if their presence was well known in wherever they are in Canada kudos to the locals for not caring/being discreet!

      • Iris's Grandaughter says:

        @Becks1 I totally understand what you mean. Lest we forget, Duchess Meghan lived in Toronto for several years. My family resides in Toronto for nearly 4 decades. They are extremely reserved and trustworthy. The DD of Sussex were strategically sold out to protect the second in line from recent negative press. The DD of Sussex knew this would happen and it is my belief as stated above that they are no longer in Canada having anticipated this move. The DD of Sussex are brilliant at playing Chess. Carole Middleton (yes, she is clearly back in the picture as negotiated by Kate) and the DD of Cambridge will never outsmart them.

      • Becks1 says:

        @rogue – no I knew what you meant! I was adding on to your comment, not disagreeing with you.

      • Nic919 says:

        I doubt anyone in Canada would know who Rebecca English of the Daily Mail is much less tell her exclusively that Harry and Meghan are in Canada. If this came from some gossip columnist based in Canada that would be credible. But Becky knows only because KP told her.

    • Erinn says:

      There were multiple articles written in late November speculating that they were going to take the break in Canada. I don’t think there was any real proof early on, but there were definitely multiple stories out there. But hard to say whether it was just people throwing stories out there and seeing what stuck, or if they actually had insider knowledge. I suspect it was just them throwing it out there hoping to be correct.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Erinn – that’s what I think – that people were just throwing theories out there. I mean people on here were saying they were in Canada, but those were just guesses. Good guesses, more plausible than some other theories lol, but not based on real knowledge.

        I don’t think bc someone suggested they were in Toronto two weeks ago it means they “knew” for a fact.

      • Erinn says:

        I think that’s it – just plausible guesses that turned out to be correct.

  26. Angie says:

    Trudeau is in Costa Rica, so no he probably hasn’t seen them

    • Peg says:

      They might have been in Canada almost five weeks, doubt he was in Costa Rico for that length of time.
      You never know who Harry and Meghan met, unless the person talks about it.

  27. Iamcait says:

    “They’re in Canada”. Wow, that’s about as specific as saying they’re in Europe. 🙄

  28. Lowrider says:

    William is a snake🐍

    Rebecca English is BRAGGING about OWNING the future king. Yikes!

    William is ready to give up access of his kids to the scum tabloids. Double yikes!

    This will not end well.

    • Harla says:

      I thought William gave up access to his kids several years ago when he and Kate were getting a spot of bad press and invited royal reporters over to meet George and Charlotte.

      • notasugarhere says:

        W&K did that to get the RRs off their backs temporarily about the kids. They didn’t trot the kids out for public things (money-making for the paps) until this Spring after RoseGate. It is why Arthur E and others were demanding Meghan do a private meet and greet with them, because W&K set the precedent.

  29. Charfromdarock says:

    Canada is almost 10million sq kms, they could be anywhere. I hope the location remains private.

    I’m sure they have discrete connections to secure a large enough house for them and their security. Jessica was a Brownstein before marriage, she had plenty of connections even before becoming a Mulroney.

  30. Well-Wisher says:

    Toronto has furnished properties for rentals especially for foreign production companies which the Sussexes could have easily accessed. They can be anywhere. The security will be lowkey.
    People like the Duchess former neighbours
    knew about them while they werej dating and no one spoke.
    The source was from the UK.
    While they were dating most people from her trainer, hairdresser etc knew, no one ratted her out then nor now.
    She lived either in or near the annex not Bathurst and Dupont.
    Simple they were happy here.
    Remembering Prince Harry comments in the latest documentary about not engaging in the similar situation tha1t led to his mother untimely led to this assumption
    Prince William was unhappy with the temporary attention to the Sussexes, went to the tabloid media with leaks etc. Harkening back on the the Wales’ disintegrating marital relationship when both parties went to different royal reporters to get their side out to the public. That scenario ended with the press being the big and only winners. So they probably were joyful in anticipation with the public interest thus revenue. But Prince Harry made a split and moved his family.
    Now Bill is beholden to them and once again sold out his kin.

    • Virginia says:

      @Well-Wisher if they were in the Annex I didn’t see them, but I leave for work at 11 am and get back home at 11 at night. I would have love to see them strolling at night, but l wouldn’t bother them for a picture. Let them enjoy their privacy.

      • Well-Wisher says:

        Previously the Duchess lived near or in the annex, a fairly large area that seems open. Just appearances. I used to walk to the annex from Spadina in my previous job and more recently from Davenport. I will be surprised if any furnished rentals are available in this area the average house starts at 1.5 million dollars outside of this area. There are little niche areas where one can stay notwithstanding cottage country.

    • kerwood says:

      I lived near the Annex when they were dating and I knew when Harry was in town. The security detail outside her house was a BIG tip off. People didn’t blab out of respect for their privacy (we Canadians are like that) but a lot of people KNEW.

      The British press is telling William, ‘Bitch, we own you’. Carole Middleton’s fine hand is VERY present in all of this. It’s probably a way to tie William even closer to her. She’ll provide a nice, motherly shoulder for him to cry on. Sometimes I wonder if Carole isn’t the one who wanted to marry William.

  31. Lexa says:

    I can definitely see KP being the source or confirming it with Rebecca English before she ran it, but it feels weird to me that the “friend,” if KP, would know anything about what they are or aren’t doing there. Obviously it’s 100% possible that part is all invention, but it also surprised me how quickly that BP confirmed that’s where they were—I guess I don’t understand why they would have to confirm it at all when there were already competing stories out there? It doesn’t stop the paps from searching for them, and it’s not like they have to justify being in Canada vs say, an exclusive island resort. In fact, it just narrows down where the paps and press can look. The whole thing feels a bit off to me. I even wondered if their spokesperson leaked and confirmed it because the Sussexes are off to another location now and they’re trying to throw the paps and press off by keeping them a step behind.

  32. NotSoSocialButterfly says:

    IDK about anyone else, but I sure hope we get updated baby photos for Christmas !!

  33. Tigerlily says:

    I’ve been a big Meghan fan from the start but it does give me pause to know she is good friends with a Mulroney. Especially a thirsty rich girl like Jessica who plays at being a stylist. I worked for the feds for 25 years and Mulroney was second only to Harper as worst PM ever

    • Le4Frimaire says:

      She’s been friends with Jessica for years and we don’t know Jessica’s personal political views, only that of her husband’s family’s political affiliations. Should she just drop her now? We have friends and family who have very polar opposite political views and sometimes we just have to put it in neutral. No need to stir the pot.

      • Jadedone says:

        With all due respect Ben and Jessica directly benefitted when Brian stole $2 million from needy Canadians so they are not innocent. If Ben had declined to attend the expensive American university paid for by the stolen funds I might feel differently but he didnt. So it’s not just about having different political associations it’s also about associating with people who have no shame in taking advantage of Canadians whole holding the highest office of trust.

      • MsIam says:

        @Jadedone, since you feel that kids should be held accountable for what their parents do, will Bea and Eug fall under that same scrutiny? You think they didn’t benefit from the grifting of Pedo and Fergie? Yet I hear all these people saying leave them alone, it’s not their fault the parents are dirt.

      • Jadedone says:

        @mslam did Eug and Bea directly benefit from their father’s crime of assaulting young women? No. Did Ben and Jessica? yes. Do we look at the junior Trumps with same disdain as we do senior Trump? Yes. Why? They have agreed with their father, supported him and directly benefitted from his crimes. I see no difference between Eric Trump and Ben Mulroney.

      • MsIam says:

        @Jadedone, I did not mention what Pedo did to the girls, I mentioned the grifting that he and Fergie did. Didn’t Bea and her “fiance” go on a fancy trip to the middle east all expenses paid with Pedo and Fergie? Who paid for that? Who paid for the expensive vacations, the Euro chalet and didn’t Beatrice and Eugenie go there too? There are all kinds of questions being asked about their finances and where the money is coming from. So whose hands are clean? Somehow, Eugenie and Beatrice are untouchable in all this and I don’t have a problem with that. But why whip up all of this furor over Meghan? What has this got to do with her?

      • Le4Frimaire says:

        This whole “Meghan can’t be friends with Jessica“ nonsense is just BS. Whatever. Should she issue a public statement denouncing them Mao-style? She’s not there for us. This whole thread is just spitting in the wind. Hope they can enjoy the rest of their break and their Christmas with the privacy they sought.

      • Jadedone says:

        @mslam the thing is the stolen money can be directly traced to Ben’s education, it’s not speculation its fact. While I think the gritting to get access to the Royals is gross that part wasnt a crime. If Eugenie and Bea knew that their parents were receiving illegal money to fund their lavish lifestyle I would hold them accountable too. In time it may come out they knew but that hasn’t happened yet so I’m not willing to condemn them yet. That being said I certainly dont hold them accountable for their fathers sexual crimes. I want to be clear I dont have any issue with Meg, my issue is directly with the mulroneys. Meg comes off as a woman who worked hard to get where she is and the mulroneys haven’t, they are the ipitanmy of privillege. It’s just a strange friendship to me especially with how much Jessica has used that friendship to perpetuate her own celebrity.

      • Jaded says:

        @Jadedone: Respectfully, Brian Mulroney received money from a private citizen, he didn’t “steal” it. It was not “taxpayer’s money”, it came from Karlheinz Schreiber, a German citizen who sued Mulroney over the money, and has said the payments, handed out in hotel rooms between 1993 and 1994, were intended to enlist his help in establishing an arms factory in Quebec and, later, a pasta business in Ontario.

        In 1995, RCMP accused Schreiber and another man of sending kickbacks to then Prime Minister Mulroney on the sale of Airbus planes to Air Canada which was a Crown Corporation at the time. Schreiber, who is now 85, was extradited to Germany in 2009 after testifying before the Senate’s ethics committee. In 2013, he became involved in a corruption scandal linked to former German chancellor Helmut Kohl, was convicted of tax evasion and sentenced to 6.5 years in prison.

        In 2017, Schreiber sought to resume his legal action but Ottawa argued that more than eight years had passed since the last meaningful action on the lawsuit. In Edmonton, Queen’s Bench Justice Lucille Birkett ruled that Schreiber waited too long to resume his legal action and threw out the lawsuit.

        Mulroney’s kids were young at the time of the Airbus issue and couldn’t have been aware of what happened. I was an adult when all of this was going down and I regard Brian Mulroney as a grifter, but don’t involve his kids in his misdemeanors.

      • Jadedone says:

        @jaded you are leaving out when Brian Mulroney sued the Canadian government claiming this was all a smear campaign. He settled out of court and was awarded $2 million. When he was exposed for accepting untold number of bribes from Schreiber he was brought before the Senate and asked to return the settlement, he declined. It was revealed that all the Mulroney children’s education were paid for by money received from Schreiber. So yes I believe he did steal from Canadians when he sued his government for making allegations that turned out to be 100% true and a crime. As a Canadian I am entitled to my opinion of the Mulroneys based on these facts.

    • MsIam says:

      @Tigerlily No you haven’t been a big Meghan fan, so stop. Her friendship with Jessica has been broadcast from the beginning, Jessica’s kids were in the wedding for goodness sake. So now all of sudden this story comes out 2 years later and it gives you pause? Please! And as far as Jessica being thirsty, hello Kate, Carole and Pippa, they drink deeply from the well too. Throw in little brother James for good measure too.

      • Jadedone says:

        Carole and Pippa are super thirsty but so is Jessica. I think we can them all what they are.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Big difference between one of many friends vs. members of the family who accept freebies for Kate, trade on royal connections for deals (free clothes, deals on cars, free vacations in 30 million private chalets in France).

      • Guest says:

        Why are throwing around silly numbers for? When we go, the rates are a couple of thousand for the night, for the whole family. They are probably staying at the usual chalets, the highest they prob go is 10k a night. If you didn’t already know, skiing is an expensive privilege, but it’s worth it. No point moaning about the cost, just because you can’t afford it.

    • Kkat says:

      Tigerlily you are full of it lol
      You have NEVER been a Meghan supporter
      Do you think people don’t remember all the shade you’ve written in the past about her? I sure do

  34. Le4Frimaire says:

    Of course KP leaked it because the only attention the Cambridge’s were getting was the big shrug off. Even baby George didn’t distract. The comment from Trudeau was definitely shade to the Brits. So what of all those working meetingsMeghan was supposed to be taking in LA? Was that completely made up. Also , how has the speculation of Christmas cards become the next battle of the bands? Really crazy how everyone resents the attention they get, yet outs their location because the domestic royals weren’t getting enough traction or fawning press. That Rebecca English article was such fawning crap, like a pesky dog humping your leg.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      It’s funny how they seem to garner a lot of international and online attention for little “hiccups” like shrug-gate and Rose more than the (little) work they do. Even Kate’s fashion doesn’t seem to get as much attention.

  35. Jaded says:

    I sometimes wonder if the Sussexes will make Canada at least a part-time home away from home once Meghan’s British citizenship is confirmed? They will need to get away from the pit of vipers that is the BRF, and certainly away from the gutter press and leakers at KP. Canadians are pretty cool about celebrities, we don’t hound them the way they get hounded in the UK and US. I think it would be a good move.

    • S808 says:

      Absolutely/ I think if they set up base anywhere outside the UK, it’d be Canada. from H&M’s standpoint I see it being the most logical choice. Still within the commonwealth but out from under KP/Tabloids and seeing as we haven’t seen a single photo of H&M, they wouldn’t be hounded by anyone.

  36. Miriam says:

    Goodness me, I think we can all agree that the source of the leak is from one house that is full of BITTERNESS+JEALOUSY. After #shruggate they frantically needed to switch the focus off their troubled marriage. I cant believe they thought this was a good idea!

    I mean how stupid are they to use their obvious mouthpiece rebecca english who wrote a VERY PERSONAL PR piece to big up the cambridges and they had to add that them having “much more healthy relationship with the media” 🤦‍♀️ the idiots didnt even learn from Prince Andrew’s fall!!! Or the part about harry going rouge in proposing to Meghan because the cambridges only met her three times!! What a disgusting thing to say/ALLOW to be said by your mouthpiece..

    • Mego says:

      It was a terrible article full of innuendo and propping up the Lames.

    • JC says:

      I’m sorry but I don’t think we can all agree on that

      Bitterness and jealously? Of what? Constantly negative press? Their very low popularity ratings?

      The Queen has made it perfectly clear this week who is important to the Royal family and who is not.

      • Olenna says:

        “The Queen has made it perfectly clear this week who is important to the Royal family and who is not.” Here’s another example of people trying to push their negative, personal agenda against the Sussexes by professing they know TQ’s thoughts and motivations, her likes and dislikes, and her personal feelings towards her blood relatives and kin. Obviously, these people have no clue how they come off sounding more like the Upstairs, Downstairs help rather than rational, objective observers who see this very old woman has given her direct heirs a place at the table as opposed to trying to send the plebes a coded message about the Sussexes or any other relatives not displayed.

      • stepup says:

        Yes, the queen has made it very clear that she’s a problematic piece of shit.

      • kerwood says:

        @Oleanna, that would be her sex offender son. She’s forcing the entire family to support him whether they want to or not. Harry and Meghan seem to be the only members of the royal family with the moral integrity to REFUSE.

        Someone pointed out that the people that the Cambridges are most popular with are the Daily Mail/Brexit supporters. By the time William is king, most of those people will be very old or dead. How is he going to explain bringing his young children to spend Christmas with a sex offender to the people who are young today? Is he going to say that his gram forced him? Or that the prospect of actually working for a living was too much, so he went along for the goodies? How’s he going to explain it to his own children?

      • Olenna says:

        As a grandfather and father, I think both Prince Charles and Willie will have some explaining to do since they are standing front and center with TQ while she publicly supports a pedophile. The greed, power hoarding, and lack of moral character displayed by this family should wake most of these older, more mature supporters up. But, it doesn’t and that’s just shameful.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        That racist old biddy made it absolutely clear a long time ago what side of the moral arc she stands on.

  37. xflare says:

    I haven’t had a six week holiday since i was at school

    • Peg says:

      Most Americans don’t get a six weeks vacation, does not stop people in other countries from getting it.
      Don’t talk about maternity leave, some women get a year off and still have a job when they return.

  38. Beach Dreams says:

    Well, William certainly failed himself and his children by dealing with the press he’s vocally decried for years. I’ll be extremely surprised if he and Harry are ever close again. Hope all of this was worth sleeping with Rose and other women (because you know there has to be at least another one waiting in the wings).

  39. M.A.F. says:

    When it was announced they were taking a break, California and Canada were the two areas people were speculating they would go so I’m not sure how this is “breaking news”. Also, KP releasing this to distract from shruggate? I think people talked about this for a day or two? I mean, I stopped paying attention after the first write up mostly because I found it boring and made into a bigger deal than it was but I also had finals to grade & Star Wars came out. If anything, releasing the photo of the Queen & the heirs making whatever it is they were making, was the distraction.

    But kiddos to them for keeping this air tight, hopefully it remains so until they report back to duty.

  40. Leigh says:

    @lookinglikeasnack – Meghan featured Ivanka before Trump ran for president and it became widely known that his adult children are horrible people. The Trumps and the Kushners were all democrats at one point and they were friendly with many prominent democrats, including the Clintons….

    • Marjorie says:

      Nagini couldn’t vote for Daddy in the NY primary because she was a registered Democrat!

      I hope H&M are having a blast, I don’t care where.

      Harry in the Santa suit is everything.

  41. Rogue says:

    Shrug-gate was pretty stupid (might have been nothing but even if she was off with him what couple hasnt had a tiff?) but it was all over entertainment/tabloid media including internationally. One of the Canadian gossip shows even brought up affair rumours as a motive for her apparently rejecting PDA so it was a thing.

    I don’t think the Canada leak was about Andrew at Sandringham. I don’t get the sense the BRF care enough about his visibility at family events to draw attention away from it.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Agreed re: Andrew. The media’s already shifted focus away from him besides the occasional “will he show up for the Christmas walk?” stories. If he were the motive for the leak, then we would’ve known where the Sussexes were vacationing weeks ago.

      Facts are facts: the Cambridges had a very strange–if not bad–week of scrutiny and they couldn’t handle it. The spotlight’s not so shiny when people aren’t kissing your ass 24/7.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        I hope this week is the beginning of W & K experiencing how much fun Harry and Meghan have had with 2 years worth of nastiness coming at them from KP. Dance with the devil …better come to play.

      • Shirleygailgal says:

        @Lizversion700 the thing is, it’s a different kind of nastiness because there are no racial undertones. Oddly, that’s the part that affects me the most. If they just cranked on and on about the Sussexes, that would be one thing, crank away and crank at all the ‘royals’. It’s the racism towards DoS that makes the difference in the RR reporting and the complete lack of acknowledgement that the racism is there. And refusing to acknowledge they are harbouring an accused pedophile……..but wait, DoS did….whatever

  42. CCHHampton93 says:

    Honestly all this Harry & Meghan stuff is still distracting from that cut-rate shit Andy & his specious ex-wife Fergie. Its insane that it seems to be getting swept under the rug

  43. Rogue says:


    I don’t hold the York Princesses accountable for their parents misdeeds and not sure it’s fair to unless children participate in wrongdoing eg Ivanka& Eric’s grifting of position.

    But it would be impossible for Bea& Eugenie to be unaware of their parents dodgy dealings. It was on record that Andrew’s excuse for visiting Epstein in NYC in 2015 after his prison release was to get a loan for Fergie. Andrew’s house that some rich friend bought way over its value was big news a few years ago& one of Andrew’s arms dealer friends was a guest at Eugenie’s wedding.

  44. Rogue says:

    Yeah because Met police won’t look into Virginia’s allegations further& Andrew obviously won’t go to US or speak to US authorities/victims lawyers voluntarily- nothing will happen with Andrew. Text from the Queen’s Christmas speech refers to ‘bumps’. Just another example of how privilege works.

    Seen the Sussexes Christmas card from their charity. Cute& seasonal. I’m sure people will be upset as it’s black and white though lol

  45. carmen says:

    Is Lainey playing dumb? She is Ben Mulroney’s friend & co-host on Etalk yet according to her blog, she knows just as much as the rest of us. Obviously Mulroney is not going to out Meghan on his show but Lainey pretending to know nada is ridiculous. We don’t need to know where the couple are, full stop. So why even mention it Lainey?

    • Tourmaline says:

      That is weird. Maybe the Sussexes have moved on to another part of Canada and she truly doesn’t know.
      On Twitter someone did a forensic analysis of the rug in the Christmas card picture and says it’s from Soho House Toronto.

    • Rogue says:

      Maybe Ben has made it a policy not to discuss Meghan with Lainey. Imho her blog posts on the royals are just speculating like the rest of us.

      Yeah Archie is looking a lot more like baby Meghan and definitely has her eye shape.

      @JC Prince Harry has consistently polled as first or second most popular royal (with the Queen) over the years including this year. And William&Kate are the future King and Queen consort so of course they are more important in a monarchy.

    • Olenna says:

      A “forensic analysis of the rug…”? I saw a similar comment, both dubious and malicious, from a Meghan hater in Omid’s TL and thought, “WTF is wrong with these people who hate her? Why stalk and analyze everything she does?” Conclusion: I’m seeing the projections of people with a full spectrum of personality disorders, addictions and obsessions.

    • kerwood says:

      I get the feeling that Lainey isn’t as much in the loop as she was. She’s had some very sharp things to say about Meghan lately, which leads me to believe she was cut off. Lainey was very full of herself when it was clear she had an inside track to Sussex news. She probably overstepped.

      • carmen says:

        It must be a struggle to work so closely with Ben and not be able to capitalize on his relationship with M&H.

  46. blunt talker says:

    I just saw the Sussex Christmas card with a lovely picture of Archie hogging the camera and his parents sort of in the background. He is crawling now and is beginning to look like Meghan more especially around the eyes and nose. Harry’s genes are still in force too. I hope they have a very merry Christmas and truly relax before going back to work. They love their little munckin so much. Adorable and simple photo.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Taken by her friend Janina Gavankar.

      Haters and tabloids have already altered the photo. Republished with Meghan’s face in focus, with Harry the only one blurred in the background. I hope Schillings works Christmas Eve.

      • Harla says:

        I saw those articles and just can’t believe it! They’re saying how photo shopped Meghan and Archie are when clearly the tabloids are the ones who photo shopped the picture in order to come up with this ridiculous article.

      • February Pisces says:

        Yes I couldn’t believe it when I saw it. I’m glad the daily mail did that, now harry and Meghan can add one more thing to the lawsuit.

      • Olenna says:

        I agree with you all. The Fail has obviously taken a revenue loss since the Sussexes went one leave and is now taking a risk to get it back with this malicious and misleading article. I haven’t read it or any of the numerous related stories, but they are milking the Christmas card photo for all the clicks they can get. The Sussexes can’t even mind their business (shame on the Commonwealth Trust for releasing the card) without some tabloid trying to defame or disparage them.

      • Olenna says:

        A “picture kill” has been issued on the card photo. It reads, in part: “PA has been advised that the picture is not representative of the Christmas card sent…”. [Sigh] The BM’s fukery is never-ending.

      • Gingerbee says:

        Did anyone see the black and white picture of Willy boy and the kids. Saw it on IG. 🤔

      • Gingerbee says:

        @Olenna, yes, I saw the picture kill statement. These people are so vile, and I cannot believe the Royal Family has not issued any comments.

    • Nic919 says:

      It’s an adorable photo.

    • notasugarhere says:

      W&K have issued a second picture. In black and white.

      I’ll await all the attacks about it being ‘too Hollywood’

      • Gingerbee says:

        Yup, when I saw the picture, my though was these two are always copying H&M. They do not have any originality.

    • PrincessK says:

      I can see Doria in Archie.

  47. Miriam says:

    I love that tabloids are losing money updating their papers to add the Sussexs pictures😂😂 I mean the Queen’s speech isn’t being reported past the uk so we’ll see if tomorrow’s walk of shame will draw any interest (if George and Charlotte attend)

  48. Peg says:

    M & H sent out theIr card after the tabloids deadline, in the gif The photo it is clear, but copying makes it bleary.
    The site that publish it usually get 100 visits/tweets per story, early this morning they had 24.2 thousand visits, now people that never heard about the ‘The Queen’s Commonwealth Trust‘ are finding Out about it.
    The Sussexes killed two birds with one one stone, publicity for their Charity and their card delivered electronically, and cause the tabloids that use it, extra money.
    Most people can see the picture on Twitter, so they can manipulate it all they want, the original is out there.

  49. Peg says:

    Did you guys miss the black dog in Meghan’s lap, I know Archie is star.

  50. yinyang says:

    Perfect. They are very polite and seemingly very canadian.

  51. Lowrider says:

    I cannot stop laughing at the foolishness of the DM. Not only do they HATE Meghan they show no shame in their reporting.

    • RoyalBlue says:

      Low rider I just posted on DM that I hope they not only lose the lawsuit, but they go bankrupt too. of course they didn’t post it.

    • Lyn says:

      Lowrider, yeah this one was pretty blatant in its hatefulness. Even non royal watchers picked up on the Daily Mail’s attempt to ruin what was a nice moment for ppl.

      They picked the wrong target this time bc ppl loved the pic so much and already saw the original on the Queens Commonwealth page, which didnt look at all like what DM posted.

      Also, Janina posted another copy of the original and called out the DM.

    • blue36 says:

      It wasn’t just the DM thought, the Times also has a pretty nasty piece about the card – they regurgitated everything that was in the DM article. I’m not a legal expert here – but aren’t they digging their own grave with this? , they outright lied and said they photoshopped the picture.

      • Penguin says:

        The Times is owned by Murdoch. Wouldn’t trust them with anything. They look respectable on top but are as right leaning as the Daily Fail

  52. Gingerbee says:


  53. Sheenak says:

    Good for them 👍

  54. lucia says:

    Holy crap these 2 can’t even release a perfectly adorable Christmas card without the psychos going apes**t on their conspiracy theories. It’s no coincidence that all those awful people are also Brexit and trump supporters in their twitter profiles.

  55. Rogue says:

    The Fail has long been malicious. I generally try to avoid them especially after they published a vicious homophobic piece after a popular Irish singer died. I really hope Meghan gets big damages from them& their involvement in phone hacking is properly exposed& has consequences

    Andrew went to the earlier church service with Charles which was reported as a sign of family support but wasn’t with the family on the walk to the main church service.

    After all that fuss calling Harry and Meghan selfish for not being with his ‘not long to live‘ grandparents, seems Zara and Peter are absent this year too.

    Charlotte and George made their debut as predicted. The crowds (not surprisingly) were a bit unnerving for them and Charlotte was sweet clinging behind her mum until she saw a flamingo!! Cutest moment. An observer said she was a cheeky one! That’s my girl!

    Anyway merry Christmas all!

    • notasugarhere says:

      William, who swore for years he hated being used for PR when he was a child, now trots his kids out regularly for PR. This is the deal he made in exchange for the killing of the Rose story – he is owned by the tabloids and RRs now.

      • Gingerbee says:

        Yes, all of a sudden, he is smiling when he sees a camera. He will rue the day, that he decided to be in bed with the tabloids. Pun intended.

        Anyhoo, Happy Holidays, or Merry Christmas to all.

  56. knowitall says:

    People who want to side-eye all of Meghan’s friendships need a reality check. Whether you like it or not, she married into the Royal Family. THE Royal Family. This is the most archaic, establishment institution out there, save for the Vatican (maybe). She’s going to be knocking elbows with power for the next 50 years at least, and that’s going to include plenty of dictators, monarchs, fascists, Republicans, and whatever other forms of politics you may disagree with. She’s not a wilting willow hippie liberal, she’s up there with them and among them. Just be glad she is singing the right tune and speaking truth as best she can with the constraints she has.

  57. Miriam says:


    “William, who swore for years he hated being used for PR when he was a child, now trots his kids out regularly for PR. This is the deal he made in exchange for the killing of the Rose story – he is owned by the tabloids and RRs now.”

    He cant put that genie back in the bottle! He’ll have to continue giving access to the kids from now on and I’ll bet they wont be satisfied with what they used to get the 90s with Will and Harry!After the photoshoot at Katy’s garden, they’ll be next expected to show up to more engagements especially George after his latest “heirs only” event.

    This is another example of how shortsighted KP/Cambridges are. He gave in to RRs demands to probably cover up the affair and is not realising he’s giving up too much!! I mean not even learning from Andrew’s fall and how they turned on him and published decades old stories which they had on him

  58. carmen says:

    Looks like they are in Victoria, BC – a mere 2,000 + miles from Toronto lol.
    I am sure they are enjoying the beautiful scenery and being away from the toxic media and certain royals.