The Cambridges attended church in Sandringham & Rose Hanbury was there

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The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge apparently did not go on vacation after Christmas. They’re still in Sandringham, and they went to a service at St. Mary Magdalene Church this morning. My guess is that after Christmas, they just stayed at Anmer Hall through New Year’s. It also looks like Carole Middleton and Michael Middleton returned to England after spending Christmas with the Matthews family (Pippa’s in-laws) in St. Bart’s. So, Carole Middleton attended church “with” the Queen, yet again. But here’s the kicker:

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s former friend Rose Hanbury was pictured attending the same service as the royal couple today – amid claims of a rift between the Norfolk neighbours. They were all spotted attending Sunday service at St Mary Magdalene Church in Sandringham this morning.

It followed reports Kate had fallen out with Rose, one of her closest friends in the “Norfolk set”. The duchess is said to have “phased out” her neighbour. The row has meant many of their Norfolk set – dubbed the “Turnip Toffs” – have almost felt forced to choose between the royal couple, based on the Queen’s Sandringham estate, and Rose and husband David Rocksavage, the Marquess of Cholmondeley, who live just three miles away at Houghton Hall.

[From The Sun]

I wouldn’t have picked Rose out, but thankfully smart photo editors cropped the wider image so I could spot her – see below, that’s Rose on the far left of the group, wearing a black coat-dress below the knee, with a burgundy or brown fur cap. Her husband David Rocksavage is standing with her, I think? And there’s Carole Middleton in the middle of the frame. Um, very, very interesting. Did Rose and Kate bury their “rural rival” hatchet? Or… did Kate get played? I kind of wondered about the theory that Rose was the one to leak the “rural rivals” story as punishment for Kate trying to freeze her out. It definitely looks like Rose is still in the royal fold. Which sucks, but that’s how these royal/aristocrats operate. Lots of quiet dinners between Rose and Prince William and then Kate wasn’t supposed to get mad about it. Kate tried to edit her out and Rose said NOPE, that’s not the way it works.

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  1. Eleonor says:

    Now we get Kate body language toward her husband better I suppose.

  2. Basi says:

    I feel sorry for Kate that she has to deal with this.

    • Eleonor says:

      Like Karlie kloss she married into this.

    • Royalwatcher says:

      She wasn’t kidnapped into marrying him or anything. He cheated on her throughout their dating life, so she knew what she was getting.

      She’s also free to leave at any time!!

      • Nic919 says:

        She has as much at stake in the perfect marriage image as he does. It’s not like Diana didn’t set a precedent for a divorce from a cheating royal heir to happen, so it can be done. She chooses to stay and play the game.

      • Basi says:

        I know all of this.

        Despite all that I can still feel sorry for someone. It’s not exactly pleasurable even if you knew exactly what you were getting into.

      • Lucy De Blois says:

        Absolutely right. But if she leaves him, she will leave behind kids, life style, status, public recognition, a crown, a title of Queen or consort… And years and years of tireless work to fish the prize. I don’t think it’s an option for her; maybe that’s why she is so thin. If HE is tired of her and she feels the catch is scaping through her fingers the daily stress of dealing with the situation may cause the loss of sleep and apetite. I’m sorry buy I don’t believe she looked so sad and tired at church, on Christmas day, because her mother wasn’t there and she had to deal with the domestic arrangements all by herself helped by dozens of servants. There was more than tiredness: she looked sad.

      • yinyang says:

        What is happening is sad, but imo not as sad as if this were to happen to true love like H&M. I don’t think Kate cared about William, to her it was more about winning against the competetion being the next princess of the world and getting big blue.

      • liriel says:

        With royals it’s different, she loses the kids if she wants to leave and it’s very clear she loves them.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She doesn’t lose the children in the event of a divorce. She’d be allowed to live grace-and-favour 50/50 with the kids off the Queen or taxpayers until the youngest turns 18. See Diana getting free rent at Apartments 8&9 at KP as part of her settlement. Kate could end up at Wood Farm at Sandringham if Philip passes soon, or even Anmer with William given a different country home if he remarries. He could live at Highgrove House if Charles moves into the new house he’s building near Highgrove. Or Harewood House, the Duchy property originally intended for W&K back in 2007.

      • Katherine says:

        This weird rumor persists about Kate losing her kids and the Queen/monarch having “custody.” This is… not a thing. And I don’t know how many times it has to explained. It’s 2020. There may have been archaic rules related to the royal family but English Family Law in the modern age doesn’t have some super secret royal loophole. They follow laws like everyone else (well except Andrew).

        If they get divorced they negotiate custody the same way any other divorcing couple would. One day Prince George will likely be the legal heir. But he’s not now in the eyes of the law, he’s simply a number in a line of succession. And he’s a little boy who would be treated legally as any other child. Sure they’re rich and titled and George (and to extent his siblings) may eventually have certain obligations they will have to account for, but one would assume They’d have elite lawyers sorting all that out. And I know the RF isn’t exactly a brain trust of top notch PR, but I’m not sure even they would risk the mess of taking children away from their (by all accounts) loving and involved mother.

      • yinyang says:

        Modern day divorced couples probably negotiate better than they did in the old. They’ll probably have an arrangement like Fergie and Andrew.

      • perplexed says:

        Diana left, but look how that turned out. Kate might be better off staying married to William, even if it might be imperfect. No one really has a perfect life anyway.

    • Bella DuPont says:

      The rose bush is looking somewhat whithered though. At least, a slight consolation prize for Kate, if nothing else.

      • Silas says:

        Rose looks awful. She can’t dress and she looks like a stereotype of an arrogant and unpleasant snobby toff (which is probably what she has in common with William).

        That’s who William picked? I’d rather have Kate.

      • Wasabi says:

        “she can’t dress”

        What do you mean? Tons of buttons on a coat/dress situation is the royal way!

        Kate and Rose not only look alike, they dress alike. If I were RegularBill, I’d be confused about who my wife and who my mistress is, as well.

      • Elizabeth says:

        Liriel she wouldn’t lose her kids. What are you talking about? She would lose her husband if she left the marriage but no one is taking away children??? Diana is a good example of this. Or Sarah.

      • JaneBee87 says:

        @wasabi 😂😂

      • PrincessK says:

        Yes, she looks even thinner than normal. Her ‘withered’ look may be one of guilt and embarrassment at having to be put on parade for PR purposes.

      • bros says:

        she looks much older than 35.

  3. Elisabeth says:

    Rose and her husband are standing with Kate’s oldest friends, including a friend from Marlborough College. This is the fourth year in a row Kate and William have hosted a house party for Kate’s birthday and had the guests attend Church with the Queen, but it is the first year Rose and husband have been there. So the logical conclusion is that Kate invited them, knowing they would be photographed her with FRIENDS AND FAMILY. What message could she be sending except, “nothing to see here, folks?” This is her birthday party weekend. Rose has never been invited before, and Rose and her husband are clearly there as guests of Kate and William, not the Queen. i know William is considered a monster around here, but I don’t think he, a notoriously private person, would insist that his mistress be invited to his wife’s birthday weekend where they know she’ll be photographed.

    • Sofia says:

      Rose has been invited to Kate’s birthday in the past at least once

      There’s even a picture of Carole walking with David C

      • Elisabeth says:

        Hmmm. Not last year or the year before, maybe in 2016? Regardless. Kate is under no obligation to invite her husband’s supposed mistress to her public birthday church pap walk. If Rose is there, it’s because Kate invited her, and she’s smart enough to know that people will speculate about what that means. She’s very clearly sending a message that there’s no there, there.

      • liriel says:

        Agreed. She sent a message that everything is fine and it’s a non story. We’ll never know what exactly happened.

    • runcmc says:

      This just reminds me again how much I’d rather be Pippa than Kate. Do you imagine having to do a church group outing for your birthday? Jeez. Talk about a boring birthday.

      • Peg says:

        Who says Pippa is any happier than Kate, about a month ago there was a picture of Pippa Without makeup, out for a walk with her son, you would think she had a few kids under five with no household help.

      • Justme says:

        If my birthday falls on a Sunday, I go to church. Nothing horrible about going to church and thanking God for another year. Church is not a punishment.

      • (TheOG)@jan90067 says:

        Kate’s birthday is the 9th; today is not her birthday. Might she be having a “party” this weekend? Sure. Perhaps the kids go back to school tomorrow and they’re back to London later today? Perhaps she had her party last night? Who knows.

        But we do know, she hasn’t been doing any Norfolk EACH events this year, where Rose Bush would be. So for this walk/invite to happen means that IF something was going on, they’re trying to put a stop to it NOW.

      • Oui oki says:

        Peg, some people just age a lot. She does a lot under then sun (vacation, marathon) and smokes. And she’s not as pretty. They don’t look a like. Her looking like that does not mean she is less happy.

      • Aria says:

        Pippa was not interested in marrying him. Carole and James matthews involved to make that happen . Even in those engagement that pippa has problem with 8 years differences. You can see the differences of her with james and with nicko. James mattews reportedly gifted carole and middleton huge chunk of gifts. He also brought job to pippa brother james.

      • Lady D says:

        “Without makeup, out for a walk with her son, you would think she had a few kids under five with no household help.”
        Perhaps she has rough menstrual cycles or discovered she’s pregnant again? Perhaps some more really bad news about daddy-in-law is about to drop? maybe she’s worried about her sister?

    • Lucy De Blois says:

      I wouldn’t say Will is considered a monster around here; the people is not benevolent when talking about cheating a wife. He’s just a product of his breeding: a top aristocratic fellow, raised by nannies, governesses and countless domestic help, his grandmother happens to be the queen of England and he is the heir.
      And oh yes, he would insisted that his mistress was invited to his wife’s birthday if it suited his interests. His father made Highgrove a nest for Camilla and him, Diana hated the place like she said in many interviews. If the aim was to quiet the rumors, the picture would have been made when the whole affair blew up. No. It’s more like if the storm is under control and life goes on; that’s what aristocrats do (and less noble people too). Amner Hall has lots of rooms and it’s huge, so their appartment on KP; maybe that’s explains why she is so thin and shrugging at his touch. From all I’ve read of him, William is a very tough player. And his pictures and videos display an arrogance that wasn’t there before.

      • Mignionette says:

        Lucy I think you’re right. Now we have the answer for the shrug. Not a Kate fan, especially after her aiding and abetting William to smear Meghan this past year. However as a woman I feel sorry for her. Yes she knew what she was getting into as he has form pre marriage and she was not a doe eyed 19 year old like Diana.

        I don’t think she expected William to be faithful, but I suspect she didnt expect him to be so flagrant in his attitute towards her and his mistresses (yes there have been many allegedly). Afterall it must hurt to have to put on this shit show to quell the rumours of your husbands constant indiscretions.

        She needs to take a leaf out of Diana’s book and find herself a nice hunk to comfort herself with because I can’t imagine that much exists between them in this sort of arrnagement.

    • yinyang says:

      If that were the case, why not get a picture of her talking with Rose. These pictures kinda adds feul to the stories.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The zero interaction between Kate and Rose tells an interesting story. This was a deliberate ‘nothing to see here’ stroll because the Rose Who? stories aren’t dying down.

      • L4frimaire says:

        Why would they even go there? They’re under no obligation and that rumor was so old. What was the point?

      • notasugarhere says:

        The rumor hasn’t gone away and the shrug heard round the world didn’t help matters. This was a PR exercise.

    • Sunshine says:

      Liriel and Elizabeth. Camilla and her husband were always invited to everything as well.

      • Aria says:

        Agreed. Also kate doesn’t have that much ball to stand up to William. If she has might threatened to leave him , instead she stick with him after all these years. This is William way of showing Kate and carole to suck up like Charles with diana. Diana cant stand this and rat out Charles and camilla out . Kate wont and in upcoming events Kate will be rewarded with new jewelry from queen for turning blind eye. That is number one quality to be queen.

    • PrincessK says:

      We don’t know if the Cambridge’s invited them to Church or the Queen, given Rose’s husband’s role as an important royal courtier.

  4. Charfromdarock says:

    William certainly has a type.

  5. Sofia says:

    Is this a regular church going or something to do with Kate’s birthday?

    If it’s the former then Kate and William can’t avoid being photographed without Rose forever. They live close by and David has a job in court. A job Rose’s son will inherit before or during William’s reign

    If it’s the latter then anything that did happen has been resolved or trying to tell people: “nothing to see here!” or nothing did happen

    • Peg says:

      Regular church service, 🌹lives in Norfolk year round (unless she at their other residence) so this would be her Parish Church.

      • Becks1 says:

        Peg – that was my question too. This church is open to the public right? So if rose regularly attends, these pictures mean a lot less. She didn’t have to be invited by Kate.

      • (TheOG)@jan90067 says:

        If Rose attends this church regularly, wouldn’t we’ve seen pics of her attending at *some* point?? There’s not been one sighting of her there before this, in all these years. Even at Christmas, during these last two years that we’ve been aware of “Toff-Gate”, no sightings at the church at Christmas. And NOW…boom! Here she and her husband are, front and center with the Midds. Interesting…

      • notasugarhere says:

        This being the only time they’ve been pictured here is *interesting* as you write.

      • PrincessK says:

        Not sure we have seen Rose before but her husband David has definitely been pictured in the past attending Church with the Royals over the Xmas/New Year period.

  6. RoyalBlue says:

    They invite their exes to their weddings and such. I think the affair is over and the toffs have agreed to let bygones be bygones. Kate is firmly in place as future queen and this is an attempt to lay rest to the gossip.

    • LahdidahBaby says:

      A wise theory–sounds accurate to me.

    • Nic919 says:

      Had they wanted to shut this down earlier, they would have been seen with Rose months ago when the story first came out. I would agree that this probably just means that’s it’s over, not that it never happened.

      • Becks1 says:

        This is what I think as well. This isn’t about shutting down the rumor, it’s just that it’s over and they’ve moved on. Or at least they are pretending that lol.

      • Dilettante says:

        They finally got some good pr advice and had the sense to take it. To put the rumours to bed (oops) they should have done something like this long ago.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        Nic I wasn’t clear. I think it happened and they know it happened. This is just to show that they are over it, as the Toffs do.

      • Lucy De Blois says:

        Dilettante: “put the rumors to bed..”? That’s the best of the year! LOL. But I don’t think it’s just rumors that are put to bed. LOL. I agree if it was a PR move it should have been done when the story started. I think it’s more like “it is what it is you like it or not”

      • PrincessK says:

        Yes, I agree. If Kate had played ball they would all have been pictured together ages ago. We may have to wait a while but the true facts will emerge one day.

  7. EJOB says:

    It’s also possible that…nothing ever happened between Rose and William, there was never a rivalry, and all of this was made up.

    In other news, that pup looks miserable and Kate looks to be feeling its pain.

    • Pam says:

      Or, just maybe, the whole thing was a rumor. There is still no evidence this is true except for a couple of tweets that have since been deleted.

      • MrsBump says:

        Agreed. I doubt she’d be invited and hanging around if there was an affair going on/had taken place.
        It makes no sense for anyone involved to get pictured with the former “mistress” and her husband.

      • Nic919 says:

        Camilla and Diana were in photos together so it’s not like this hasn’t happened before. These are the type of people who invite their exes to weddings as well. It’s a small group and generally affairs are not a big deal for them. Diana was the exception in being vocal about it and not wanting to just accept it.

        I’m inclined to agree that nothing current is going on, but way too much weirdness happened for there to be nothing. William’s human rights letter was a hell of a lot more than Kate just trying to cut Rose out of the turnip toff set.

      • Bookworm says:

        I agree that this was just a rumor and people love to believe the worst of Will and Kate.

        Camilla and Diana were in a completely different situation. Charles was with Camilla before he married Diana and they intended it to continue. They were not some fling that happened years into a settled marriage.

      • notasugarhere says:

        KP staff giving Rose PR advice on how to move forward. William threatening lawsuits in European court about his ‘right to a private life’. The silly PR story of Kate out being swim mummy in full makeup and pearl earrings. The story of William working out with yummy mummies after the school drop off but never being tempted. The RFO timed to Kate keeping her mouth shut. Kate’s visible strain in Feb/March as news was breaking. The stories of private dinners and long walks discussing Rose’s marriage and William’s sympathetic ear.

        It happened. There was too much scrambling for cover for it to be only a rumor.

      • Maria says:

        Probably a rumour. If it isn’t, William has terrible taste.

      • Maria says:

        I agree with nota. The article about the “platonic suppers” and then that part being redacted, as well as the legal goings on and planted stories—it’s all so weird.

    • liriel says:

      Ejob yeah we have no clue what happened, everyone assumed the worst. It’s possible that everyone cheats on everyone. Aristo crowds. No proof.

    • notasugarhere says:

      William wouldn’t have gone extreme with ‘right to a private life’ filings in European courts if nothing happened. If nothing happened and he could prove it, he would have sued for libel.

      This wasn’t the first affair, nor will it be his last. He cheated on her for 10 years before the wedding, she knows it is the deal.

    • Mignionette says:

      This definitely happened. Bill was way too heavyhanded with the Lawyers for there to be nothing to see. Also rumour has it that Rocksavage bats for the other team hence why Rose went a wondering in another woman’s garden in the first place….

  8. Keekee says:

    Well maybe it really isn’t true…would Carol stand so close to her son in laws mistress?

    • Beach Dreams says:

      ….I don’t see how they’re standing “so close”? Carole’s several feet away from Rose in her own group and her back is to her.

      • Kj says:

        I have seen some pictures of Carole and Michael in line with/close to Rose and her husband though, Michael looks to be in discussion with her husband to. I’ve also seen shots of some of their very best friends alongside Rose and her husband (Emilia who is Kate’s BFF, Oliver Baker who is one of William’s). That sort of closeness with family and friends never would have happened if there was indeed an affair.

    • Aria says:

      I think carole care more about being mother of queen consort and grandmother of future king. Any decent woman wont allow the men to treated the way William treated Kate during their dating period. William repeatedly dumped her, cheated on her and falling out of club with semi nude woman while he is dating her. Any loving mum wont put their daughter in that situation and will surely advice to leave him . Instead she encourage her to stay with him and told her to turn blind eye. Also carole pp company is in huge trouble , this time I dont think she will piss off her son in law. So she is also accepting the fact. Also I have no respect to her father, no father will accept this kind of treatment to his precious daughter.

      • liriel says:

        we know Carole wanted the ring and found it worth it. Maybe she was right though? You don’t have to be aristo to be mistreated, cheated on. At least she got family, place in history, financial freedom and her fairytale. Maybe fairytale ending was worth it for Carole and Kate?

      • RoyalBlue says:

        Liriel, omg! Carole always wanted the ring. Now I can’t get the image of Carole looking like golum reaching for the ring whispering “my precious”.

      • Becks1 says:

        Sure Carole would stand that close to her. She’s a marchioness. Carole is nothing, title-wise. Her husband is the lord chamberlain. He carries the crown. Carole May resent her for her relationship with William, but carole’s gonna Carole and she’s not going to pull a Kate and shun Rose Hanbury (at least not in public).

    • PrincessK says:

      There is nothing Carole can do. William cannot admit adultery because the fall out would be huge and he needs to be seen as being better than his father. There is so much hypocrisy within the RF. Diana and Fergie saw it all. Fergie was so angry at being cast out when she knew that so many of them had behaved far more badly than she had.

  9. iamcait says:

    Maybe the photographer doesn’t like Rose and has photoshopped her in an unflattering way, but she looks about a decade older than Kate here.

    • Chaine says:

      My thought too, I did a double take because poor Rose looks fifty. For a former model she is decidedly not photogenic.

      • Keekee says:

        she looks strained and very uncomfortable.

      • Ainsley7 says:

        She was a model because she was skinny and well connected. She’s pretty, but she’s never been model material. She does look really uncomfortable here. Which seems pretty reasonable given that she knows people are going to talk about it. If she leaked the info to punish Kate then I think she deserves to feel as uncomfortable as she looks.

      • Olive says:

        she’s beautiful head on but has a very weak chin so her profile isn’t much to look at

      • (TheOG)@jan90067 says:

        Rose isn’t bad, full frontal, but from the side…with that no-chin profile…YIKES! She was a model because she was tall, thin, and connected, like most of this generation’s “models”.

      • yinyang says:

        She looks like she got a nose job, I hope not she looked prettier before.

      • Suz says:

        I was just about to leave that same comment. Isn’t Rose only in her 30s? She looks like she’s in her 50s. Trying to match her Daddy-Husband’s age? The stress of Turnip Gate really affected her?

    • Glozilla says:

      I feel badly for Rose. If she doesn’t go, people say she’s avoiding the Cambridges because of the affair. If she does go, people still talk about the affair and can’t believe she’s there.

      I was once accused of something completely untrue. It was humiliating and it sucked.

      • yinyang says:

        If these rumours aren’t true, than I’d find the way Kate behaving to be really disgusting, why let the press insinuate that about an innocent woman and friend. I would have KP put a word out about it.

      • MsIam says:

        Oh @yinyang you are so right! I have always thought that Kate could have put a good word in about Rose, been photographed with her like she was with Meghan during “le fued”, something to show that there was nothing to the rumors. Instead she let Rose twist in the wind. Rose herself could have put something out there, unless she was told not to. I wonder if there is some evidence out there that they are afraid would get out if they put out a big denial? I guess we’ll never know, or at least not anytime soon.

    • dogmom says:

      To me, she looks like Ghislaine Maxwell in this particular photo. When you see her full face, she can look really stunning, but in profile she never looks that great, IMO.

  10. Seraphina says:

    I feel like a broken record, these people are self absorbed and will not turn on each other when it’s fight it flight. They will stick together because they know how good they got it.

    I just want to say, and Lord help me, I think Kate looks great here. Very fresh. I love her whole look. The coat, the hat and her hair and the boots. Well done.

    Lastly, seeing the public roped off the Middletons really struck a sore spot with me. It really annoyed me and just drives home there point the monarchy is an elitist practice that needs to end. 👎🏽

    • YaGotMe says:

      I think TQ was also in attendance, there are more pics on the Fail. Which would explain the cordoned off area and also security. I don’t know if it’s somewhat permanent since TQ does the church roll on the regular so there is always a designated walkway with security?

      ETA: Agreed on Kate’s ensemble, it’s one of the best I’ve seen her in and the coat has a pattern? I’d wear the hell out of the entire outfit.

      • Peg says:

        The Queen is going to be at Sandringham House until February and most likely the roped off area will stay until she leave, she will be at church every Sunday.
        Unless Philip catches a cold, no that will not stop her.

      • PrincessK says:

        Yes, Kate does look good.

    • minx says:

      I like Kate’s whole look, too.

  11. MattyLove says:

    Kate’s hat is dreadful.

  12. Mego says:

    I kinda like Kate’s outfit here 😳

  13. Anners says:

    I love the turnip toff drama, but I’d really like an id on that gorgeous yellow floral coat – anyone know (or make an educated guess)

  14. Talie says:

    I know that Rose and David are typically invited to events with the The Queen due to their position, which is why they can never really be frozen out. Anyway, this isn’t the days of Jane Austen. The adulterous woman will no longer be ruined socially by an affair.

    • xo says:

      Plenty of women still hold a grudge against Camilla. It all seems to depend on how sympathetic people find the wife. . . .

      • YaGotMe says:

        You make a valid point. I have rarely read comments about Diana relating to she knew what she was getting in to (though she was also Aristo) or it comes with the job (they all do it) etc.

        I tend to disagree that adultery is more ‘accepted’ in circles depending on title, status, wealth etc. Historically yes, when wives were acquired to seal alliances, boost fortunes and had no choice in the men they married. I think we’ve watched too many seasons of the Crown and similar that we believe these aren’t human beings with complex relationships.

        Plenty of people stay in bad relationships because they have no other financial recourse, these people aren’t that.

      • aang says:

        Diana was 19 years old. And by all accounts very naive. No one ever seems to mention the grotesque nature of her relationship with Charles. He was a worldly man in his 30′s. She was a mentally unstable teen with history of family trauma that made her ripe pickings for a sham marriage. Vert different than William and Kate.

  15. Flying fish says:

    Diana and Camilla was snapped together!

    Kate always looks good in that shape of a hat. The mixed colored coat looks dated, which is the norm for Kate…

  16. Busyann says:

    I’m fairly certain the affair did happen. Kate, after 7 years of marriage, got her Victorian Order last year. Some speculate that was her prize for keeping quiet and dissappearing while the whole Rose thing ran the course in the media. I don’t believe for a second that Rose and Will are over either. I think there’s just some sort of acceptance that has happened.

    What I’m most curious about is how long will it take for the media to start targeting Meghan again. Its been pretty quiet with Meghan, Harry, and Archie being away, but we all know Will likes to throw his SIL under the bus when things get unflattering for him. And I don’t think these pictures will help quieting any Will, Rose, and Kate rumors.

    • Nic919 says:

      The picture just brings up the talk all over again. Anyone around during the Diana and Charles days knows that a picture with the wife and mistress in the same frame doesn’t mean an affair isn’t happening. Kate and Rose actually interacting would have helped, along with having this photo out in April at the height of the talk instead of Kate disappearing from engagements for over a month. And Kate got the RVO a few months after the story came out.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        Yes but Rose is no Camilla. Camilla was not just a mistress, she was the love of his life and when she was present in pictures she always exuded confidence like she owned the situation. Rose looks a little forlorn, like she has been put in her place, but who knows, maybe that’s how William likes them.

      • liriel says:

        Exactly. Camila was the boss in her relationship with Charles and Charles really did love her his whole life. Ross might be just an affair, she knows her place.

      • Nic919 says:

        Charles was also with Kanga at the same time as Camilla and Diana was friends with Kanga. Camilla as the love of Charles’s life is a helpful narrative that his PR has pushed so that she is more accepted as his now spouse and future queen. I agree that Camilla was always more confident but Charles played the field well beyond Camilla.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Good reminder, Nic919. Diana chose to befriend Kanga, knowing she was one of the mistresses, and to promote her clothing line.

      • Maria says:

        Yeah, remember Charles saying of Kanga she was “the only woman who ever understood me?” Lord, lol.

    • Peg says:

      Did you miss the BM latest, demanding that Harry and wills work out their differences so that the BM can get more leaks from KP.
      Four generations Photo of BRF is not cutting It for the media, when they can photoshopped the Sussexes Xmas picture for more clicks.

    • Lexa says:

      I’m not sure I would use her order timing as evidence of the affair or her being rewarded for not putting up too big of a fuss over it, though I can definitely see why people think that… It took Sophie, what, eleven years to get it? She also wasn’t “full time” right from the start and had quite a scandal, though she’s clearly rebounded. I’m honestly surprised Kate didn’t get it at ten years, but I think her being the wife of the heir’s heir meant she got it sooner.

      Personally, I think it’s partly her reward for not rocking the boat within the wider RF during a year where Meghan entered and supposedly pushed back against the courtiers. But based on some of the reporting last year (specifically the story about him ensuring that only Kate would have access to certain privileges), I think a better guess is that Will lobbied for it on her behalf as a way to mark her status as being above Meghan’s at formal occasions like State Banquets. That, or the Queen offered it as a way to appease him when he felt like Harry and Meghan were getting more.

      • Aria says:

        Liriel rose knows her place. Please rose has more influences than Kate. If kate has that much power rose might be gone forever. Gave birth heir doesn’t mean you have the place in that circle . Its comes with money and connection of old blue blood. Kate has none of it. Look at diana and how she was treated by press and royal family eventhough she gave birth to heir and spare. Kate plays by the rule and she needs the crown ,title and tiara then her hubby love. Diana on the other hand need Charles love more than anything .

      • notasugarhere says:

        Unlike W&K, Sophie and Edward were never supposed to be working royals. In spite of that, Sophie was still doing around 200 engagements a year *completely volunteer* in the first two years of marriage. She received her RFO in 2004, three years after becoming an official working royal and five years after marrying Edward (7th in line to the throne at the time).

        Diana received hers at 18 months, Camilla two years after the wedding.

        Duchess of Kent received hers the year she married the Duke of Kent.

        Princess Alexandra in 1952 when the Queen ascended.

        Duchess of Gloucester in 1973, one year after their marriage and unexpected launch into royal duties due to deaths in the family.

        Kate’s RFO is related to William and Rose. It isn’t related to her lack of accomplishments at work or to affirm her ‘status’ re. the wife of the 6th in line.

    • A Guest says:

      Complete conspiracy theory to follow but…

      I think this is part if Kate’s “reward” for putting up and shutting up for the past year. First, the US article about wanting her kids to see Archie and then some retired RR was brought out to write a piece about W&H “reconciling” this year. Now Rose is back on scene.

      $20 says that we see a spate of articles about “Kate, the Compassionate” and “Kate’s Forgiveness” and how she saved the royals for the Queen should H&M “come back to the fold”.

      The future, future Queen Consort will never have to worry about negative press again and Willie will be much more discrete with his “gardening” in the future.

      • L4frimaire says:

        Agree with this. Kate is fine and doesn’t need to worry about the shrunken Rose. She probably has a bit of leverage against William as well. That doesn’t mean all is happily ever after but she’s Teflon coated now, and the press treats her like some idealized creature, who never puts a foot wrong, ever.

    • Anance says:

      Another thing. Rumors speculated the Rose affair was more than a simple fling, that Rose expected to supplant Kate. Following Camilla’s example, the future King can marry a divorced woman, who can expect to become his queen. Even darker, speculation ranged farther, chattering that if Rose had a baby with William, the child could supplant Kate’s children.

      To me, this sounded like fan fiction until the Royal family went to an enormous extent to reassure Kate that she would be Queen Consort and George would be King.

      I don’t believe William and Rose are over either.

      • L84Tea says:

        One thing I absolutely do not believe is that Rose wants to take Kate’s place. Why would she? She has the better life now–the estate in the country, enormous wealth, a title, and she gets to come and go as she pleases. Why on earth would she want to be Queen consort?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Any children Rose had with William would not supplant the first three kids. It would make for an interesting reign for William though. If he married Rose, her ex or her eldest son would perform the obligatory role at opening of Parliament. Cheek kisses all around, a la Camilla, Andrew PB, Anne. One big happy, extended, blended family.

  17. Vava says:

    Rose sure is thin. I’d like to see a better photo of her coat.
    Not a fan of Carole’s coat and hat.
    I don’t care for Kate’s ensemble either. FRUMP ALERT

    • Jackie says:

      I thought that too. William seems to like unnaturally thin women.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Jecca, Rose, Isabella are all naturally thin like Letizia of Spain. Kate chooses to be too thin for her frame size, maybe because of William’s attraction to those others who are naturally that small.

  18. TheOriginalMia says:

    Interesting…If Rose was the mistress (and I still have my doubts), power move by Kate inviting her to the house party. Kate reestablished her position as FFQ and Rose is forced to play doting wife and supportive friend. Doesn’t make the situation any better, but Rose is on notice. If she hoped for a divorce, nope! Now, if this was something forced on Kate, it just shows William will have what William wants. Kate’s feelings be damned.

    • Myra says:

      Let’s be clear….William runs that marriage. He has always had his way in that relationship..PERIOD. He’s an ass hole!

      • Aria says:

        Agreed. William has more power and his way of saying that rose is not going to go anywhere to Kate and carole. Why ppl assume Kate invited her. William invited her , same as charles does that with diana by inviting camilla. Its more and more clear that Kate is turning blind eye. Any decent men and woman know that alleged mistress in the same event will bring more fuel to the situation. This is not tiara event where they have to be there. It’s a private chruch event. Also queen wont tolerant these behaviour is stupid arguments. Beacuse queen herself turned blind eye to her hubby cheating . Also diana asked queen many times to interfere the affair of Charles and camilla. But queen didnt. I also think queen accept this , beacuse she was used to these kind of things and it’s very acceptable in their circle.

      • YaGotMe says:

        This is a public church, in the local Parish where they live, it is not an event that required an invitation.

    • Lucy De Blois says:

      Exactly. Either she’s conformed or she reforms; the second is not a solution (at least for her). Now, we have a documented proof that life goes on. No sense at all on being a PR situation to dismiss the rumors, because that should have been made ages ago, not now. And it’s funny how timely the events unfold: near Harry’s wedding, she was thin to the point of cracking in two; not long after broke Rose’s story. After the unmistakable shrug the picture comes the friends’ family walk to the church with Rose on display. Interesting, to say the least.

      • Aria says:

        Its might be public chruch but keep in mind William one day be king to chruch of england z he would easily told them off not to attend. Also there is no need to attend the same service , like andy attend separate service in Christmas.

      • Peg says:

        @Aria
        The Queen is the head of the Anglican Church, but have no power to stop anyone from attending Anglican Churches.
        St George’s Chapel is under her jurisdiction.
        Why do people keep forgetting William is second in line to the throne.
        Rose lives in Norfolk, most likely she attends this church and her children were christened there, why should she change her routine for someone that goes to this church two or three times a year.

      • Aria says:

        PEG royal have more power than they show to public. They have the power to threatened the independent foreign press and William espaically threatened all the press of Britain to never mention the affair. Surely they can do , if he feels uncomfortable he might have tell the queen but he is enjoying which means he wants rose there.

  19. kerwood says:

    This was probably stage-managed by Carole to give the impression that all is well with the turnip-toff set. That shrug probably scared the shit out of her.

    • Linda says:

      @Kerwood
      I feel you are making Carole appear more powerful than she is. If she stage managed this then she should be running the royal family.

      • Mego says:

        No just William and Kate who have a lot of power within the RF.

      • kerwood says:

        @Linda Carole isn’t interested in running the royal family. She’s interested in her daughter keeping the position that they BOTH worked so hard to get.

        The royal family needs someone to bring them into the 21st century. When Prince Charles becomes King, HIS UK is going to look a lot different than his mother’s and is going to be a lot less ‘united’. I think he has an idea about what he wants his monarchy to look like, but right now he’s stuck cleaning up the mess that his mother created by over-indulging his brother and looking the other way while ‘courtiers’ savaged his daughter in law.

      • MrsBump says:

        @linda
        Didn’t you hear, Carol is the one actually running Britain when no one is looking.
        Air hostess, millionaire party entrepreneur, social climber extraordinaire, professional tabloid manipulator, PR expert. Is there nothing this woman can’t do?

    • YaGotMe says:

      @ Kerwood – I am curious what leverage Carole would have on the Toff set that they comply with her machinations?

      • Aria says:

        Carole company is in big trouble and William is taking over duchy estate means William has money which Carole need in desperate to accept that her son in law mistress and playing the role everything is happy.

      • kerwood says:

        AYaGotMe, I don’t know how much leverage she has with the toff set. But she’s got big time leverage with William and Kate and would be in Kate’s ear to invite Rose and her +1. Rose would be interested in going because her life’s probably being made miserable by Kate stans who are out for her blood, when they’re not denying that she exists at all. The rest of the crew will fall in line because they stick together.

  20. Myra says:

    Kate has to tow the line. She will be rewarded with another royal award or a new home…just tow the line. They can’t afford another scandal so Kate must play ball. I wonder if Kate agreed to look the other way with the agreement she could do the same. Only time will tell but history has shown that those type of arrangements don’t work. Additionally seeing Rose and how she dresses explains Kate emaciated appearance and Kate’s obsession with buttons. Kate has a history of morphing into William’s other women (ie Jecca Craig). What a sad story

    • Aria says:

      I agree that Kate is willingly do anything for the title. She and queen are same when comes to cheating they look other way. But prince philip stop the affair at one point. Charles and William wont. Now she will be awarded with new tiara or earning from the crown. Also william also have that smug smile on his face even in christmas. But kate looks sad and thinner. Also she was hoping for another baby which didnt happen either. She stopped coloring her hair in September it’s more than three months, surely they might announce the pregnancy to distract andy scandal. So far nothing.

      • (TheOG)@jan90067 says:

        She did not stop coloring her hair in Sept. She came out with that lighter color and new cut when they took Charlotte to school for the first time.

        Look, we all know NOTHING. We are SPECULATING, seeing what WE WANT TO SEE in all these people, depending on our like/dislike for one or the other. Will we EVER know the truth? Probably not.

      • Aria says:

        @THEOG that’s her original hair color. Light blond. She usually color her hair every two weeks or so. You can check many article on her hair coloring. Also for the past three pregnancy that she did the same like month or so before announcing her pregnancy she will stopped coloring her hair. Check this also. That’s why many Kate stan hoping for baby 4 and she was also making comments about baby 4. Also with william affair and now with this arrangement of rose being in their circle, she might except baby 4 as deal to keep her mouth shut but that didnt happen.

      • Jaded says:

        @Aria, she’s not naturally light blonde, she’s got light brown hair which is now shot with grey. I remember seeing a photo a few months ago and she had about an inch of light brown roots with noticeable grey hairs. She’s bee adding some light caramel coloured streaks to her regular chestnut brown colour.

      • Silas says:

        My theory is she lightened her hair to match Charlotte.

      • Busyann says:

        I think Prince Louis was the baby Kate got in return for Will’s foolery. He always said he wanted two and then came Louis. I doubt there will be a 4th, but you never know.

    • Lucy De Blois says:

      Interesting when you say that those kind of arrangements usully don’t work (I mean three in a marriage). Maybe they don’t work because people have feelings. They can look tough and rough but, surprisingly they are more sensitive than they would like to be. I still think the title of Princess of Wales, Duchess of Cambridge, queen or queen consort is the spring that makes Kate’s world move. But even a material girl has her limits. And with the last shrug she showed she’s arriving there.
      I think the situation might be too sore for a baby n#4, but the stupidity of some people is enormous.

  21. AprilMay says:

    The Cambs didn’t attend mass last week so I wouldn’t be 100% sure they were at sandringham. They could have easily went off after Christmas and back in time for this weekend.
    Rose being there is very interesting. Why the betting we see Kate in a similar outfit soon.

  22. Aria says:

    Diana and camilla also attend same party and events. I think those shrugged off from kate, arriving in different car, looking sad all leads to Kate accepting William cheating and keeping her mouth shut. Carole and kate wants title more than anything, so they will stick no matter what. Also carole needs more connection and money to sell her company. Rose hubby is wealthy men and carole dont want to mess up with business connection . Also it’s very common in british upper class where spouses cheated on each other. Their only concern is media should not found out. I do think rose and William affair is going on. It’s not going to end anytime sooner. Finally kate accept that fact for title and staying quiet. Also rose husband must be relieve that rose is getting attention from william . Beacuse if not she might got bored and leave him. There is a long rumor that he is gay and that gay thing wont be acceptable in their upper class circle. So rose and William has each other near home, david went for his alleged paris business trip and Kate is sucking up for title.

  23. February Pisces says:

    These pics have done exactly what was intended. People are now gonna say “William clearly isn’t having an affair with rose because why would kate invite her to church?” It’s cheap and easy PR to dispell the feud and cheating rumours. I’m just surprised at how many smart people fall for it. William and Kate are pro’s at putting on a show for the cameras. It’s what the royals do when they want to make a point that everything is all good (think the queen and Andrew riding to church).

    • Aria says:

      I think only stupid people will fall for this pr. Anyone follwing royals knows that this alleged mistress and Kate being in same place is proving the fact that Kate has turned blind eye. There are many events where diana and camilla was in same place . The only difference is that diana rat them out. Kate wont. Sensible people knows that this is stupid pr move , this might work in April when the affair started. Now too late. Also why now when threatening the media with letter. If there is no truth , you dont need to threatened the media.

      • February Pisces says:

        I would usually agree that anyone who falls for this is stupid, but out in the real world when I talk to people, they genuinely believe that William and Kate have the perfect marriage and he wouldn’t cheat cos his mother was cheated on. It’s shocking how so many people can be so gullible.

        Back in the 80s Camilla was queen bee in their social aristo circle and Diana was the one on the outside. Diana just had to suck it up. So I wouldn’t be surprised if rose was the one everyone adores and Kate is on the outside looking in. I don’t know why they waited so long, maybe ‘shrug-gate’ instigated it. William can threaten the press to stay silent, but Social media is a whole other beast, and that ‘shrug’ brought a lot of speculation.

    • Sofia says:

      This should have been done back in April. When the rumours were in full force. Not 8 months later when the GP have moved on.

      We might even get a sugary article on how “brave” Kate is and how upset everyone was and how Rose and Kate are back to being BFFs

      • Aria says:

        Yes agreed. Also anyone on twitter can check with #rosehanbury has zero result. Also no mention of rose hanbury in those news outlet. Usually when it comes to Sussex those kind of things will be in headline with rose nothing. Also when you googled her , today chruch walk wont come on her page. You have to go to william and kate page to see the pic. Also dailymail usually provocatively say some time. But nothing. Their timing of the kids display and shrugged off everything is showing as happy family pr . They hope to bury this affair with this pic but it went other direction.

      • Lucy De Blois says:

        Aria: when the Rose’s story started on the tabloids, William promissed with his lawyers to suck the eyeballs out of anyone who dared to comment it. No surprise you find nothing on it. Probably she closed her twitter. Anyone who follows the BRF knows that the picture wasn’t a PR to confirm that everything is just fine. On the contrary. The picture confirms that Rose is being pushed down Kate’s throat. And that’s how it works on aristocratic circles, we like it or not.
        Since you mention the Sussexes: nobody is finding strange the sepulchral silence of Sammy, Thomas Jr and Thomas sr.? No tears over the poor old one alone on Christmas? It looks fishy like hell to me.

      • Aria says:

        LUCY DE BLOIS yes William threatened letter is interesting when you read it. In in twitter someone beautifully explain the letter that instead using for defamation case, william does with human rights. Weird?? Beacuse in defamation the evidence needed which I think press has. That why he choose defamation and got the deal with media to leaks about Sussex camp, more kids photo.

      • Peg says:

        @lucy.
        The markles are quiet because they have nothing to sell, Meghan only had contact with terrible Tom, no contact with scammy or jailbird jr. for over eleven plus years.
        The tabloids want returns for their £s, since TT lied about Meghan not contacting him, and then produced a letter she wrote and he replied to, the tabloids have enough egg on their faces from the markles lies.

      • February Pisces says:

        I’ve seen on Twitter that Keenbridge stans are falling for this big time. God I wish I could tell them all how stupid they are. But the fact that they are doing this photo op now has got me thinking that KP are worried. They held off doing this stunt for months, but are running out of options. I get the feeling the keenbridges are hanging by a thread. So much shit must be going on behind the scenes, it’s not going to end well between them, I think they are past the point of no return.

      • PrincessK says:

        @February Pisces…I think you may be right, about running out of options. The PR from KP over the past few weeks has been over the top, even the DM idiots were getting fed up with all the sickly pro William and Kate pictures and stories. It was a real overload.

        Anyway the Sussexes, their chief worry, will be back on the scene soon, so I wonder what will be dished up next.

    • Silas says:

      This is why Kate got her sash. This is what she has to put up with while being cheery and obedient. And this is why she looked exhausted on Christmas morning.

      When you marry for money, you end up earning every penny.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I see this as a PR order from the Queen. Get everyone together, in public, walk for the cameras, and pretend there’s nothing to see here. As Kate’s RFO was a PR exercise too.

    • L4frimaire says:

      So they can go to this effort for Williams girlfriend, then turn around and pull some of the nasty stunts and petty one-upmanship they did with the Sussexes, and still seem to be doing. These people need a lobotomy.

  24. Miriam says:

    The RRs and stans are DESPERATE to make it as a sign of them saying “all is well” and even suggesting it’s for Kate’s birthday even though it’s in the 9th!!!!
    Rose and David are invited by the Queen as neighbours and him being one of those who help in ceremonial events like opening of parliament. Rose’s great grandmother was also one of the Queen’s bridesmaids/ladies in waiting so she’s close to the Queen’s household.

    The cambridges looked tired and I wonder why!! Kate’s closeup had her looking gloomy. Intresting that the rest of the Middletons stayed at st barts and only Carol and Mike came for this!! I liked Kate’s hat which is similar to one worn by sophie wessex.
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1222328/queen-elizabeth-ii-news-sophie-wessex-favourite-sandringham-christmas-2019

    • PrincessK says:

      Carole may have been there to provide her daughter with support at having her husband’s mistress shoved in her face.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Carole is the one who kept throwing her daughter back at the cheating boyfriend for a decade. Carole’s there because she takes any chance she can to be seen in the same frame with the Queen.

  25. Myra says:

    Rose appearance is just to make the Brits comfortable with seeing her in Royal circles again. Carole and Mike are there to show support for Kate. William (The Ass) and Kate (Thirsty Queen in Waiting) have clearly come to some type of arrangement.

  26. aquarius64 says:

    Thanks to William’s “human rights” lawsuit and Richard Kay’s stupid article afterwards I think it’s baked in the cake that William pruned a Rose bush on Kate’s watch in some quarters. The church stroll resurrected the whole thing. And if the Cambridges and KP had a role in egging on the media to go after Meghan and use her father as a weapon this is karma. This will never go away and the same press that fawn all over them will turn on them if they have harder evidence and a legal out to report it.

  27. Boo says:

    Maybe, just maybe, nothing happened between Will and Rose and the media are having us on. 🤷‍♀️

    • Aria says:

      If anything happens this should have been done in April 2019 when started. Too late for this sort of pr. I strongly believed something happened with increasing Kate unhappiness in Kate’s eyes, from shrugged off from Kate, fake smile, arriving separately, no interaction between Kate and William today too, confirm that the mistress is no going anywhere . Usually kate looks lovely dovey with William during chruch walk check previous years, but today and Christmas walk nothing. We can excuse like there is pressure with kids being there no today ?? Also her second christams card she was not there .

    • PrincessK says:

      The forlorn look on Rose Hanbury’s face says it all. Also the look on Williams’ face in the famous picture of him with the two women to me confirms that he was witnessing his mistress greeting his wife.

    • notasugarhere says:

      You don’t file lawsuits about ‘right to a private life’ if you didn’t have something to hide.

  28. Lowrider says:

    Everyone looks tired and rough.

  29. kerwood says:

    I’m not surprised that Kate and William look tired and out of sorts. In order for them to be the ‘ones that stayed in case Prince Phillip died’ they had to give up their Caribbean vacation. Even Carole ditched them for Pippa’s husband. And thanks to William’s new environmental initiative, it’s no private jets for them in the near future. So they’re stuck at dreary Sandringham, while everybody who could take off, DID take off. They must be MISERABLE.

    • Aria says:

      They always stay in amber home until her birth day. There many pictures of them during this time from previous years. Even they stay with Philip doesnt means they will do they the work. They have army of servants.

  30. leigh says:

    I’m in the “the affair happened” camp. And it looks to me like Wills finally took the embargo off from being photographed around Rose. I had read that his legal threats included not only not writing about the affair but also no publishing pap shots of Rose either, in order to keep her from being hounded by photographers.

    Maybe part of his Christmas gift to Rose was relenting on the embargo so she could go about her business as usual, i.e. going to the local church with her hubby when the Queen was there and so would photographers. At the same time, the real pigeon couple, Harry and Meghan, will be resurfacing soon, and there was still some marriage image repair to be done after Kate’s shrug. It’s possible Wills convinced Kate that being photographed with Rose was a necessary last piece of the puzzle to cement their “strong marriage” image. Kate said okay, but it had to wait until she had her reinforcements (Carole) around to keep an eye on things.

    Both Kate and Rose are stylish in their own way; Rose is more bohemian and is cute enough to carry it off … her fashion choices are much more interesting to me. I hope this means we get to see more of her now.

    • Lucy De Blois says:

      Maybe he took off the embargo on Rose’s pictures (near him, of course), but as far as I know, no tabloid published anything about or had the pictures we saw here. Except for CB, nobody did the smallest comment on it. Sorry if I’m wrong. And the way Kate looks the last times, I doubt very much this proximity with Rose is enjoyable for her.

    • Gatorlover says:

      I find Rose attractive and interesting – as you said, ‘bohemian’. Not sure why people are carrying on about her ‘weak chin’, when that seems typically aristocratic British to me. Her online modeling pictures from when she was younger are stunning and sensuous.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I also find Rose and her husband David very interesting. I would take David Rocksavage as husband any day over Normal Bill with the wandering scepter.

    • PrincessK says:

      It was in DM, and surprise surprise the comments were not heavily moderated.

  31. Silas says:

    Kate’s coat is hideous! It looks like the kind of carpet that’s designed to hide stains.

  32. Lummy dee says:

    Nicole Cliffe, the lady that started the rose rumours on Twitter said her account was hacked and the story was fake. Giles, the SOHO House guy and associate of Meghan who said it is well known will had an affair deleted his tweet and also denied the story.
    So Kate and Will invited their childhood friends and Rose for her birthday weekend and somehow, we are supposed to believe that the affair happened even without proof.

    I’ve personally been a victim of such rumours where my colleagues alleged I was dating my boss and everyone ran with it. The irony is that my boss is friends with my husband and I’m cordial with his wife. I had a female colleague who was also close to my boss. Both of us used to be very close until she did something that hurt me and we quarrelled for a while. The gossip in the office was that my gf and I fell out because we were fighting over my boss. It was so ridiculous as there was no truth to it. But people ran with it and the gossip even got to the top management.
    My gf and I have now reconciled and we laugh over the gossip. She is also married with kids.

    • Silas says:

      You never answered about which royal reporters you consider credible. Do you mind doing so?

      It was acknowledged that reporters were not allowed to talk about this story even though they gleefully and cruelly speculate or outright make up things. Hence the Sussex lawsuit.

      Notice this didn’t happen with the Sir Ben stories. The BRF are not regular people in a regular workplace. What William did was unusual. Intimidating the press into not touching this story is unusual and reminiscent of how the Palace went after ABC when a reporter wanted to do a story on Andrew.

    • Aria says:

      Lol they are not kate childhood friends those William blue blood friends and rose is also blue blood. So it’s not weird for them. Also there are many reports that William blue blood friends are not keen on Kate. Camilla was known among Charles circle of friends. This is how they live life.

    • Silas says:

      Also, I just googled it. Nicole Cliffe’s account was hacked *after* she posted about the Cambridges.

      The way you wrote it made it seem like the tweets were the result of a hack but no, possibly deranged Cambridge stans hacked her account after those tweets. Nicole straight up points at racist anti-Meghan haters when she posted about it.

    • L4frimaire says:

      The Nicole story was a theory she posited on Slate.com after the rumors were already out and the Turnip Toffs story was in the tabloids. She even mentioned it was her own speculation. She did not start the rumors. Giles Coren is a very respected food writer, does a lot of tv food shows, has for years ( check out Super Sizers- really good or his Netflix show on hotels), so not sure how he connects to Soho house or Meghan Markle, considering he is UK based, and seems to not know her (apart from the occasional snide comment on his Twitter). Something was up, and even if it was all innocent ( doubtful), why go there again with these photos? It’s unnecessary and seems like they wanted look interesting. Aren’t the future monarchs supposed to be stodgy and bland? That’s what their issues are and the cause of all this drama. They don’t want to be, but they are.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      No she didn’t say any of that. It’s no surprise that you’re parroting the same tired claims of the megxit/tinhat crew. So desperate to connect everything to Meghan 😂

    • Nic919 says:

      Accusing Nicole Cliffe of starting the affair rumours is slander. The megxits should stop posting this on twitter because it’s demonstrably false. The timelines clearly show this snowballed following the Giles Coren tweet, which was deleted shortly after. Cliffe posited her own theory but never claimed she knew exactly what happened. And someone else confirmed the UK media blackout on the story.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I appreciate the SussexSquad-esque responses to OP. You’ve brought the facts, shown the real timeline, and proved the tumblrs and haters are spinning false narratives. They started targeting CB like it is their New Year resolution, but you’re not letting them get away with it. Love it.

  33. girl_ninja says:

    Rose looks thin to point of frailty. From that photo she looks sickly.

  34. TheMummy says:

    Rose looks about 60 here. Of course, there is absolutely nothing wrong with 60. I’m just pointing out that she is looking well beyond her actual years. And for 60, she looks pretty good. For someone who is probably actually in her earlier mid 30s, she looks exceptionally haggard and jowly. (nothing wrong with jowls, either. I’m only 42 and can tell that I am going to be a jowly lady myself! But I am also a very thin, tiny person because of type one diabetes and I think extreme thinness definitely brings out the jowls in people because there is a whole lot of bones and skin)

    And William certainly does have a type doesn’t he?

  35. WendyWoo says:

    I have to say, if the affair is true, it’s weird. Hanbury looks like an older version of Kate.

  36. Mtec says:

    Eh, I think Rose and Kate look around the same age in these pics, and they both look at least 10yrs older than they are. They dress similar too and both look overly thin for their frames. Seems William has a type.

    • Ina says:

      More like Kate trying to fit into the type by dieting to reed thinness and copying the slouchy posture of Jecca and Rose. Pretty sad. Kate has no identity of her own.

      • Flowerpot says:

        I think Ina is correct about Kate dieting herself into William’s “type”. I believe that in addition to wanting the titles and crown (and buying into Carole’s vision), Kate is desperately in love with William. I don’t think William returns the feelings and “settled” for her. I think he’s an arrogant, entitled jerk. She’s trying to emulate the women in his circle he admires and who likely rejected the royal lifestyle. I do feel for her

      • Vava says:

        I agree with this, too. Over the years, William hasn’t demonstrated much warmth towards Kate and on the rare occasions he did it seemed fake.

  37. L4frimaire says:

    This whole thing is weird. Hate to say it but the Cambridges are starting to look attention seeking. All those photos being released one after the other, constant emphasis on the succession, the whole Middleton paparazzi vacation, making major initiative announcements during a holiday, then this show which bring up stuff that doesn’t need to be. Rose looks hella nervous, and staying back. Boring and thirsty. 🤷‍♀️Shrug.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      It’s such an interesting change from 3+ years ago when they avoided attention (beyond the bare and required minimum) like the plague. Wonder what changed….😉

      • PrincessK says:

        The people looking after the Cambridges image have told them to up their game. The Cambridges have little to bring to the table except their children. William really does not like overexposing his kids but has been forced to do so to gain popularity. The popularity of the Sussexes is gaining ground faster and faster and the Palace is worried which is why they were told to go on an extended holiday, since the plan to banish them to ‘Africa’ is not going to happen.

    • Lowrider says:

      The Cambridge’s are receiving positive press so they don’t mind being photographed.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      IMHO, this whole photo-op is just bizarre as no no narrative makes any sense. If CB posters can not come with a good narrative then all hope is lost.

      I do not think Rose looks sad. To me, she looks as if she does not want to be there; more pissed-off than sad.

  38. ArsenioBillingham says:

    What an ugly hat.

  39. Miriam says:

    @LUMMY DEE
    “Nicole Cliffe, the lady that started the rose rumours on Twitter said her account was hacked and the story was fake. Giles, the SOHO House guy and associate of Meghan..”

    You cambridge stans/mgxt fools are not even bothering to hide your conspiracy nonsense agenda!🤦‍♀️ you only need to Google #Williamaffair to see the endless time stamped tweets from different none royal reporting sources who confirmed it.
    As someone else said, nicole’s account was hacked AFTER the scandal probably by deranged stans like yourself🙄

    @L4FRIMAIRE I agree that this was strange but they already attended this before(the chomleys separately last year;david walked with Carole). This wont do anything to stop the affair rumours especially with the SILENCE from RRs and British press who didn’t have problem reporting lies and speculations about the Sussexs (hence the lawsuits).

  40. A Guest says:

    The affair rumor started about the same time H&M were moving to Frogmore and breaking away from the joint foundation. And plenty of people on Twitter were wondering if these events were somehow connected.

    Nicole Cliffe, who may now wish she hadn’t, put everything together in series of tweets with her own suggestions that Harry found out about the affair and confronted William.

    A lot of folks took it as the “truth” and ran with it, good and bad.

  41. Nia says:

    Rose is the one who can make kate’s Life a mess.
    She’s well established in the aristocracy.
    Her husband is lord chamberlain.
    Her friends in the press showed they were ok to expose Kate and William.
    When the rumors about the fall out and the affair came out,William couldn’t even use his position,his connection to shut it down.
    He had to send his lawyers and threatened the media by using his “human rights”s

    What else can Kate do other than staying quiet and accept her fate.
    She wanted the crown and the jewelry and she knew from the beginning that this was inevitable .

  42. Jejej says:

    Where did my comment go?

  43. MadamNoir24 says:

    I will never understand how these people can leave their house to stand behind a line and look and people who live a much better life than them, especially on Christmas day. It will never make sense to me and it almost seems pathetic.

    • iamcait says:

      Lol – can’t figure this one out either. I think we can rest assured that the vast majority of people have better things to do?

    • PrincessK says:

      The fact that they are people who live better than them is precisely the reason why we go and gawp at them. I sometimes go and watch the royals, and I am not pathetic. I also think I lead a busy and interesting life. Each to his own.

  44. Ice Cream says:

    Please, anyone marrying into the RF would have to accept cheating, it’s not fair but it is what it is & I’m certain anyone marrying in (especially someone like Kate who would be well versed in how that family & that echelon of society work in Britain) would be aware of & either ahve accepted as part of the deal or be able to turn a blind eye or cheat on their own & enjoy their own side piece. The big deal with these people is that it doesn’t become public knowledge or gossip. That’s it. Keep it quiet, keep it “classy”, allllllll good. Basically the general accepted way of that bunch of people. Will be the same for Diana, for Kate, for Meghan, for wheover George marries, for anyone. You may want monogamy, you may hope for it but I would never, ever expect it from anyone in the RF or the surrounding society types they socialise with.

    At least I feel Kate knows what’s up & is able to deal with it & get on with it in whatever way, Meghan I suspect would be less keen but hey, this is why most people would run a mile if a British Prince wanted to marry them!

    • notasugarhere says:

      William cheated on Kate for 10 years before marriage. If she thought marriage would change him? That’s her responsibility.

      Hate to break it to you, but not all royal men in the BRF cheat. William does, that’s clear.

  45. knowitall says:

    Are they competing for thinnest person?

  46. aquarius64 says:

    Kate’s acceptance of her situation is a stark reminder of how she and her family really stand in high society. The Middletons are three to four generations away from the coal mines and despite their business the Turnip Toffs still think they are beneath them. When Kate becomes queen they will bow and curtsy to her but it’s a case of respecting the title and not the woman.

    The Markles have no press coverage because of Meghan’s lawsuit. Meghan’s lawyers have argued the British media has manipulated Toxic Tom. Running an interview from him supports the argument. Scammy is still rage tweeting; on Twitter she manipulated the Sussex Christmas card and slapped Bad Dad’s face over Archie’s. No wonder she is being investigated for cyberbullying. That ratchet family is now a liability to the Fail and other tabloids facing a Sussex lawsuit.

  47. Maria says:

    When is Kate going to start recycling some of her coats?

    • ArtHistorian says:

      Never. She rarely recycles. She really ought to recycle more, not just because of money but also because there’s some nice clothes just sitting in her wardrobe and it is a shame that they aren’t worn more than once or twice.

      I love that CP Mary of Denmark keeps recycling her more than 10 year-old burgundy velvet gown – because it a gorgeous dress, it really suits her and it goes perfectly with her ruby-diamond parure. She wore it once again this New Year’s Gala. I’d love to put in a link but if I do this comment most likely won’t get published.

      • notasugarhere says:

        They all recycled this year, didn’t they? It may have been deliberate, in the face of the mourning in Norway over Ari Behn. They know their Norwegian friends are hurting.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        They all recycled but QMII recycles a lot – if she likes a dress then she’s going to wear the hell out of it. Mary has worn the burgundy velvet dress about 4 or 5 times, it is clear that she loves it. Marie also wore an old dress that had been altered a bit.

        The Danish RF are very close with the Norwegian RF but I don’t think that they recycled out of respect. They often recycle their clothes, especially the big gala gowns and they often have items altered to get more use out of them but still looking a bit new. It is just what they do. It may seem a bit out of the ordinary because we are used to seeing Kate always wearing new clothes + I don’t think that the Swedish royal ladies recycle their gala gowns that often.

  48. Brooks says:

    they all be aging like milk lol

  49. Jumpingthesnark says:

    So, anyone can decide to attend a church service, I don’t know why people are assuming that the fact that they happened to be in a church service means that Kate invited Rose to a private party. Kate clearly got played by Rose and Rocksavage. Who knows, the viper courtiers might have tipped them off that Bill and Kate would be going to church on sunday— I wouldn’t put it past their leaky PR incompetent selves. And another thing, Rose def didn’t do any of this (including the original affair leak) without the OK from Rocksavage — he is the lord chamberlain or whatever high up aristo thing, I’m sure he has the final say.

  50. Sidewithkids says:

    That hat tho.

  51. Mignionette says:

    Kate and Rose alike really have the haggard aristo look down to a t. It’s shocking how two women allegedly in the prime of their life can look so unpolished with all that moula.

  52. Rogue says:

    I like Kate’s look here especially the coat and the hat reminds me of her g/f days.

    In relation to the affair rumours the Sun and Fail started it by overegging an apparent fallout between Kate and Rose.

    Hadley Freeman asked what the Sun/Fail stories were insinuating on twitter and asked had there been an affair and Giles Cohen said yes in his deleted tweet. Several journalists like Sophie Coutts and non royal journos from the BBC, Buzzfeed etc and a well known U.K. lawyer made sly comments about the rumours and not being able to report about it. I remember an royal reporter also was on twitter confirming about laws preventing reporting on some stories.

    Then US picked up on story. People like Yasher Ali, Roxanne Gay etc had dialogue on it with people claiming to have sources that knew about an affair and Nicole Cliffe with her twitter thread where she made clear she was editorialising the stories coming from U.K. press about Harry/William fall-out. The Daily Beast also had article that William had used human right laws (right to a private/family life) to prevent rumours of affair from being published in U.K. press.

    Camilla Tominey later had an article where she suggested that Kate’s tears at the wedding rehearsal may have been because of Rose not Meghan.

    So if anything the story was media/journalist driven.

    • February Pisces says:

      One theory is the Sun and DM initially dipped their toe in the waters with the initial feud story as a way of threatening the Cambridge’s. It’s the equivalent of a gangster chopping off someone’s finger. No one had even heard of rose before the daily mail and the Sun ran the story about her, if they hadn’t done that no one would be talking about an affair. Now the Cambridge’s have to provide them with endless content, access and probably money too. The press could easily blow the whistle at anytime but are getting so much from them. They have clearly struck up a deal, but it’s more like being held hostage. The Cambridge’s can’t just tell them to f*ck off without drastic consequences.

      • MsIam says:

        @February, I think the tabs have something big on them (Will & Rose) whether it’s pictures, tapes, etc. If W&K don’t play ball, then off comes the lid.

  53. aquarius64 says:

    I am wondering what made the Fail bring back William’s alleged wandering scepter? All that fawning press and now this? Either they are missing the Sussexes and a Charles/Camilla 2.0 scandal bring in the bucks (2000 + comments on this story) or does the press want to remind everyone they dog walk the Cambridges because it just did another story asking if Rose is going to Kate’s birthday bash?

  54. Miriam says:

    @ROUGE
    You’re absolutely right. The cambridge stans/megxit klans are DESPERATE to pin it all on Nicole even with access to daily mail articles which started this whole thing with “kate pushes rose from her circle” nonsense.

  55. Carolind says:

    They could have been partying the night before which is why they look terrible. If William did have an affair with Rose, it does not say much for Carole Middleton, as a mother, being able to be around them. I know of a similar situation where the wife and mistress were back to being best friends but the mother of the scorned woman never forgave the mistress.

  56. MsIam says:

    Sorry but I really hate Kate’s hat and it doesn’t seem to go with this coat at all. It reminds of the hat Harry’s aunt wore to Archie’s christening. I guess I am just not a fedora lover, unless it’s on Alicia Keys. Kate’s coat on the other hand is pretty and I like the boots. Rose’s coat reminds me of one of Kate’s “buttons gone wild” outfits.

  57. Senator Fan says:

    To me this pap stroll was ordered by the Queen otherwise there’s no way Kate would do it on her own. They all do the Queen’s bidding, it’s the centre point of their jobs. And this would have been planned well in advance, nothing these people do is off the cuff, it’s a well oiled machine. Because of Rose’s husband’s position both Kate and Rose had no choice and they both look miserable. This is the only thing that makes sense other then W&K found out Rose and David would be attending and so were told to do the pap stroll as it would look weird and raise more questions if they trailed in after W&K.

    William isn’t the only one who allegedly cheated, Phillip, Charles, Pedo Andrew have that we know of. These people cheat and have side pieces, it’s what they do and have been doing since the beginning of time. We are living in different times with the internet and cell phones. As for William silencing the press, he has every right to, whether it’s true or not. There are multiple children involved on both sides and because of the position of David and Will there serves no purpose to have media write and speculate about affairs. And maybe William had the Queen’s blessing to silence the rags. These rags such as the DM and Sun thrive off of writing crap whether it’s true or not, that is what they are getting paid for. And the laws they break in order to publish such crap is unreal. People take what they print as gospel even though those two outlets are the ones H&M are suing, for outright lies, fabrications and mistruths.

    I think Kate put up with Will’s nonsense up to a certain point. Who knows what arrangement they had behind the scenes pre and post marriage. But something has changed. Maybe William broke a rule of the arrangement. And maybe the shrug heard around the world is Kate’s way of putting William on notice. There’s a reason that shrug happened when they both knew cameras were there filming and it wasn’t edited out. Maybe Will couldn’t get it edited out. So now the PR game continues.

  58. notasugarhere says:

    They’re back! Harry and Meghan have an engagement tomorrow at Canada House, London.

    • Marie says:

      Some of the royal reporters are having meltdowns over this engagement, saying it isn’t work since they will be thanking Canada for their hospitality during their break. Insane.