Prince Harry & Meghan’s Sussexit arrangement will only last a year…?

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Omid Scobie, as we know, gets briefed from deep inside Camp Sussex, so of course Scobie had ALL of the details on the latest chapter of Sussexit. Note: I was going to say “the final chapter of Sussexit,” but I don’t think this IS the final chapter? I think there’s more to come, but the deal announced Saturday was the big deal the Sussexes worked out with Buckingham Palace, Clarence House and Kensington Palace. While the Sussex statement didn’t go into this kind of detail, Scobie clarified a bunch of stuff on this Twitter thread.

Scobie says that Harry’s three military patronages will end, which is a terrible f–king look for the royal family considering Harry is the only one (of his royal generation) to serve in active duty in a war zone. Harry and Meghan are also no longer Commonwealth Youth Ambassadors, which is another terrible look for the royal family – Harry and Meghan were basically the only “relevant” royals to the youths of the commonwealth nations. Who will the youths see now? Mrs. Pussybow ‘80s Cosplay and Mr. Jellypants? Scobie also says that Prince Charles will still “offer private financial support,” which I take to mean that Charles will fund them partially for a time, but the Sussexes negotiated their freedom to pursue other business deals. Scobie also says that it’s more than possible that the Sussexes will return here and there for big family events, like Trooping the Colour.

As for their private patronages – which is the bulk of them – Harry and Meghan get to keep everything. Sentebale and Invictus are considered Harry’s private charities, and Meghan didn’t get a chance to really build up her patronage portfolio beyond the handful we know about. But of course she’ll continue to maintain all of her projects, I’m sure, and she’ll quickly add new ones. In Canada. And the US. And internationally.

As for Charles funding them privately… before the Final-Sussexit announcement on Saturday, the Daily Mail’s Richard Kay had an exclusive about how Harry and William were huge financial drains on Charles’ income, not just the Duchy of Cornwall money, but Charles “private reserves.” Kay lays most of the blame on the Sussexes for, like, daring to have a big wedding and daring to… live in a house which the Queen offered to them. Nit-pick, nit-pick. Anyway, the point of the story is that Charles is actually somewhat grateful that Harry and Meghan seem determined to become financially independent at some point, because he doesn’t want to keep paying all of their bills or something. You can read the shady piece here.

Last thing (for today): apparently, this “arrangement” will only last a year. The arrangement officially starts “spring 2020” and in spring 2021, the Sussexes will likely be called back to England for some kind of status meeting to “revisit the arrangement.” The idea behind saying this as an addendum to the Buckingham Palace statements from the Queen and the Sussexes is to give an impression to the salty British peeps that “don’t worry, we’re keeping Harry and Meghan on a leash.”

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  1. Snazzy says:

    Yeah, once they’re out, they’re out (and by that I mean by their choice). There is no way they will give up that freedom, no matter what BP says. They can “discuss” in a year if they want, but let’s see if H&M even show up at the meeting

    • xo says:

      You’re not British, are you?

    • Cassandra says:

      I actually like the idea of revisiting in a year? It shows there’s flexibility in the arrangement

      • liriel says:

        Me too. Not to mention Meghan and Harry might try living their way and then seeing what’s better. This way they’re not done with no come-back option.

    • Jellybean says:

      They will have to come back if they want daddy to keep paying the bills. As a British person this irks me. Harry is the ultimately privileged person: white, male, money, position, status. Meghan has married into that. They don’t want things to continue as they are, but they are not victims. I am worrying how to pay a tax bill this year and get some essential dental work done and if things don’t pick up can I pay my mortgage? I hope they find a life that makes them happy, but I am never going to feel sorry for them.

      • Ali says:

        @jellybean the Sussexes have been undermined and attacked daily.

        If you can’t have compassion for people in that position I feel bad for you.

      • Mika says:

        Doesn’t Harry have a 40 million dollar inheritance from his mother? Like… can they not dip into that?

      • Bohemian Angel says:

        Jellybean, I hope you feel that way about ALL the family, Andrew taking tax payers money whilst pedophiling and if Kate decides to have baby no4.
        I know it’s hard for many of us in the UK right now, I myself am struggling and homeless (thankfully not on the streets) but I can still feel compassion for what Harry and especially Meghan have gone through these past couple of years.
        They have tons more than me but I wish them well and hope they live their best lives.

      • MariaS says:

        Aah, yes, they’re rich so who cares about racist abuse, unrelenting criticism and lies, and death threats… nice.

      • yinyang says:

        Harry and Meghan won’t be your problem anymore as they are moving towards independence, maybe the financial burden of the rest of the royal family is causing your misdirected anger.

      • A.Key says:

        I totally agree with you. I pity Meghan because I believe she really had no idea what she was getting herself into, but I don’t pity Harry at all. He basically lived like the black sheep crazy party animal for most of his life before he met Meghan. All of which was funded by the people. He’s no saint and he knows very well how to live this life. If it hadn’t have been for Meghan he never would’ve left the royal money, I mean “family”.

      • PrincessK says:

        @Jellybean blame government policy for your expensive dental treatment and tax situation and the general economic climate, don’t blame the Sussexes. The money they get if redistributed around the U.K. would make no difference to anyone. In fact the Sussexes wedding brought in billions in terms of revenue.

    • Lucy De Blois says:

      I find it a little omninous. Since I’ve read the news released yesterday, I’m worried with the loop holes it have.

      First, old Charlie is very, very secure with his money and loves it dearly (that’s the display of pieces of articles about him). Supporting W&H IS VERY expensive for him. And Will, as soon H&M are out of sight, will demand an eye and a leg; he never showed any sign of having a “sharing” personality; I know pretty well (more than anyone can imagine) this kind of people.
      H&M surrended their HRH titles, but Andrew still is HRH, which is absurd, to say the minimum. Even Edward VIII never gave up his title of HRH on his agreement and he had a lot more reasons to not use it, considering the s**it he was involved with.

      The sharing of costs with renovations on Frogmore HAS to be a decoy for the trolls. It MUST be. I’ts not possible that he’s going to pay for the renovation of a Crown property that HAD to go through a good work to be used again (that’s what DM said at the time). Unless it’s something they bought and are leaving behind.

      The military patronages is non sense. He was much more involved on military issues than Will and Charles. And they are covered on medals of I have no idea why.
      The same for ambassadors of commonwealth. Absurd and no comment.

      All and all, this “agreement” sounds to me more a revenge of the RF on H&M than a civilized “divorce”. Edward VIII didn’t “REVISIT” his deal to give up the throne; he tried to change things on his benefit, but that’s another story. Once the deal was signed, have a nice day.
      The implications of this “revisiting” a signed deal can have a sinister side: can you imagine when William is the king?? Anyone really thinks that he’s not going to have a go on them?? Please…. If the deal has a loop to be modified, for sure it will and depending how good H&M do on their independence, the milk can go very sour.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Agree with everything you say.

      • smithsonian says:

        Oh please. Nobody should feel sorry for Meghan. She is a middle-aged woman who knew exactly what she was getting into by marrying into the RF. There were no surprises. Meghan probably thought she would be the star for some unknown reason, and then quickly realized that she would have to take a backseat to William and Kate. Who didn’t know that? I do feel sorry for Harry, but only because he seems to have some issues that causes him to be easily manipulated. They will be fine. Probably divorced within a few years, but at least the RF will welcome Harry back. This is a sad situation for all directly involved.

      • Mcali02 says:

        Not that it matters, but HRH is a style not a title. Bunch of people are confused by the Palace’s blunder when the announcement was made.

      • morrigan01 says:

        @smithsonian

        Wow, got those inane talking points down, do you?

        Stop with this nonsense that Meghan knew what she was getting into by marrying Harry. Meghan isn’t British. She didn’t grow up with news of the RF in her backyard 24/7. The UK tabloid press is in no way like the US tabloid press.

        Unless you are a deep Royal watcher, which Meghan never was, you don’t know what you are getting into wrt that family if you are born and raised in the US. Plus, the idea that she knew what she was getting into implies that she should have just taken the racist and dehumanizing abuse that has been leveled at her since news of her and Harry just *dating* broke out.

        And anyone who actually WANTS to be active and help people would have a problem having to not do so to not outside the lazy Cambridges. Even with the little she was allowed to do Meghan and Harry both were already outshining them anyway.

        Some of you people are forever trying to justify the abuse and racism Meghan endured. It not being a good look is the least of how you people who do it come off like.

        Harry has been wanting to leave that toxic institution since he got out of the army. He isn’t coming back. But I expect it’ll take at least a year for it to sink in for you trolls wrt the truth of that.

      • smithsonian says:

        @morrigan – Again…Oh Puleeze…..Meghan may not be that bright, but she is definitely not completely dimwitted. She knew exactly what she was getting into. Even if one was in a coma for the past 20 years, it would only take a bit of research at a 3rd grade level to learn what a royal life would entail. It is clear that Meghan loves to be the center of attention and hopes this new life will bring it to her. What is not clear is the reason that Harry is going along with all of this since he has repeatedly said he wants privacy…. things won’t end well, just watch.

      • morrigan01 says:

        @smithsonian

        You are definitely not American then. Ask any random American about the News of the World hacking scandal and they will look at you blankly.

        Guess what? American news and life doesn’t revolve around the Royal Family. You may know of a shallow, surface level what British Royal Life is like, but that’s it. And the tabloid scene is a compelty different animal.

        It’s your personal opinion that Meghan loves to be the center of attention. But you know who *I* listen to when it comes to how she is? The many people in the industry who have actually *worked* with her on sets long before she ever became Royal. And all of them, to the letter, have had nothing but praise for how sweet, nice and, more importantly, *professional* she has always been.

        When you work in the industry, word gets around fast who the divas are. Your reputation precedes you from gig to gig, because the behind the scenes crew especially talk to each other. (The makeup artist, the grips, etc.) Days on set are LONG. Your true self will always come out when it’s 2 am, you’ve been working for 10 hours already, and have 6 more to go.

        Meghan had a rep that preceded her into the Royal Life. And narcissistic diva ain’t it.

        Harry did what he did because he’s always wanted out. He wanted out years before he met Meghan, he said on more than one occasion that he wanted out but was talked into staying. I’m pretty sure someone in the British media comparing his newborn son to a monkey was the one of the straws that finally broke the camel’s back, and he finally has the strength on mind to fully call it quits. People like you love to ignore Archie in all of this, especially wrt Harry. You may not like it, but Harry adores his son, and no father of a child they adore is going to stay anywhere where someone won’t help him protect his child.

        He’s gone. And in a year’s time I expect them to likely be close to welcoming another kid on the way. Harry has made it clear to those who dared to actually *listen* to him that the protection of his wife and child will always come first. He warned people *twice* through public statement and once out loud in that African documentary. People didn’t listen, and that is why he’s now gone. And it’s also why he won’t come back in any significant way either.

    • Ronaldinhio says:

      I keep womdering how much this move and deal has to do with needing the necessary freedom to fight the press.
      As a full time member of the RF they would be terribly hamstrung. As a roving royal – well gloves are off.
      Just saying

  2. Nina says:

    They gave a better treatment to camilla and Charles the 2 cheaters.Don’t even get me started with andrew.
    I hope the Sussexes will make a lot of cash to provide for their charity work themselves.
    The monarchy is a joke

    • Royalwatcher says:

      It is. And the queen is a disgusting human being to be parading her pedo son out in public again. At least she’s broadcasting her priorities, in case anyone was still wondering. Abuse Meghan all you want but don’t come for the pedo rapist because he’s got her full support!

    • My3cents says:

      Who will meet with the youth? Judging by all the love today, Andrew.

      • Rapunzel says:

        At Pizza Express in Woking.

      • Shirleygailgal says:

        What? so he can find more children to traffic and rape? OMGosh I hope if they try to hoist RandyAndy on any youth charities the charities themselves say NO, NO, NO!!! And say it very publicly. If they do, I will make a donation, I promise.

      • VS says:

        I suspect it might go to William (my goodness) or Sophie or perhaps one of the York princesses………they could become Working royals.

        There are plenty of other royals; given the treatment H&M received in the UK, right now, the UK has exactly the type of royals they deserve. A bunch of do-nothing people. Prince Charles is the exception of course, given how he has handled his own business. The rest can go back to ribbon cutting; the entire UK should be happy……..

    • Sparkle says:

      Agreed Nina. I have no clue why the british press, and seemingly the British public if the Daily Fail comments are any indication seem like they are out for blood with Harry and Meghan. The vitriol towards Meghan is absolutely bizarre in my opinion and IMHO they won’t be happy until she ends up like Diana.

      In America, I see this senseless hatred and a sense of pride in being cruel hypocrites in the hearts of so many Trump supporters. In The UK it seems to have found its way into the hearts of all these Megan and Harry haters. They are so blind to their own racism and their own hatred that is overflowing in their hearts.

      • Guest2.0 says:

        A lot of the Daily Mail commenters are Trump supporting white women egged on by American right wing media such as Breitbart.

      • Laur says:

        Please don’t tar us all with the Daily Mail brush! The majority of the UK public aren’t supporters or readers of that tripe and worry more about the horror that is Brexit than what’s going on here.

    • HK9 says:

      @Nina
      You’re completely correct.

  3. Rose says:

    Lol…discuss what? How happy they are and how they’re never coming back?

    • TaniaOG says:

      Hmmmm, no I think the meeting in a year would be to potentially cut off Charles’s financial assistance, no?

      • Kebbie says:

        That’s what I figured at first, but the article does make it seem like they’ll be revisiting the whole arrangement. This will be a transition that’s never really been done before in this way. I think it’s just a built-in date in the future to make it permanent, to ensure it’s not something they’ll regret and want to take back. (Spoiler: they won’t.)

        They shouldn’t still be funded by Charles at that point unless they’re being super selective about what they do to earn. A netflix deal producing documentaries, a memoir by Harry (not a tell-all, that’ll never happen), and a few paid speeches would fund them for decades. The Obamas have done it perfectly.

      • Frobeast says:

        I agree with @kebbie. They have so many options open to them. I’m sure they’ll be fine. I think the review is more for BP to save face than it is for H&M. They’ll be good.

        I also think that H (and possibly M) are tight with the Obama’s. I wonder if they have reached out to them to figure out how to maximize this opportunity (publishing deals, Netflix, etc). At least to get some advice. M seems really savvy, so she might have her own channels to make this work. I’m so excited to see where they are in the next 5 years.

      • Mac says:

        Harry and Meghan aren’t the Obamas. Thought leaders aren’t going to be buying their books or attend their lectures. I think they have the right idea in all their Sussex Royal trademarks. They will be some type of lifestyle/wellness brand.

      • minx says:

        I wish H & M the best, of course, but I don’t like seeing them compared to the Obamas.

      • Yvette says:

        @Mac, “Harry and Meghan aren’t the Obamas. Thought leaders aren’t going to be buying their books or attend their lectures.”

        I disagree. Harry and Meghan have traveled the world and have met World Leaders. Harry has continued his mother’s work in advocacy against landmines. He is also a veteran with actual wartime experience. Both have exhibited hands on participation and advocacy of wildlife preservation in Africa. Their personal experience and passionate advocacy in many areas would lend to fascinating reads.

        I would say Harry and Meghan are very much on par with the Obama’s mystic and International allure. Moreover, like the Obama’s, the Duke and Duchess are also an extremely charismatic couple. That alone will keep them in high demand. I believe the world is their oyster.

      • Kebbie says:

        @Minx and Mac I’m only comparing them to the Obamas in what path I think they might take, with production and book deals. I’m not saying their target audiences are the same or that they measure up to the Obamas in intellect or accomplishments.

        @Mac Maybe they’ll go the lifestyle route but I think it would cheapen their brand. Or it would be beneath what their brand could potentially be.

      • minx says:

        Yvette—Nothing against Harry and Meghan, but they have a long way to go to be on the Obamas’ level, as far as education and world influence.

      • Yvette says:

        @Minx, “Nothing against Harry and Meghan, but they have a long way to go to be on the Obamas’ level, as far as education and world influence.”

        Harry and Meghan aren’t empty headed partiers only interested in their next cocktail and monthly allowance checks. In fact, the opposite appears to be true. I don’t know what kind of student Harry was, but he was well-educated. And Meghan graduated from Northwestern University as a double major in Theater and International Studies with a degree in Communication. Harry has been very much involved in veteran affairs, wildlife preservation, and advocacy against landmines for sometime now. While Meghan has been involved in community action and charitable causes since she started at Northwestern.

        No, neither one is a lawyer, but that doesn’t mean that at least Harry hasn’t been on the world stage as much as the Obamas and far longer than at least Michelle. Remember how well Harry and Michelle got along? Some of that was in part due to the charitable and social causes they had in common.

    • Sof says:

      Perhaps they gave them a year to “themselves”. I imagine Charles will call them back when he is king, supposing Anne and Edward retire.

  4. Rhys says:

    I think on the contrary, Prince Charles doesn’t want to cut his son off completely hence the revision next year. Meghan will be back on her feet financially in no time. Harry doesn’t really have a profession and will quickly find out that being a blood prince is just not enough for ppl to rush to hire him for speaking engagements. The fact that his father is supporting him financially says it all. Frankly, when it comes to dealing with real life that Harry so wanted and now got, Meghan will do much better. Harry? Good luck to him.

    • Ali says:

      Harry will be completely fine.

      He has several years experience starting and working in nonprofits.

      And if you dont think harry could generate money going on a speaking tour you are sadly mistaken.

      • JulieCarr says:

        I mean, Sentebale was an absolute disaster until Charles stepped in and had his people do damage control and fix all the many glaring and illegal issues, and likewise Harry had a lot of help with the Invictus Games.

        Left to his own devices Sentebale would have turned into a huge scandal, and the Invictus Games would never have gotten off the ground.

      • hudson girl says:

        @JulieCarr
        You mean to tell me new charities need influxes of cash?! SHOCKING. I never would have figured that out without reading your agenda driven post. Sentebale was started in a foreign country, thousands of miles away. Tough for anyone to pull off alone, never mind such a young man. Sentebale was created after he visited during his gap year as a TEENAGER. Of course Harry needed and got support. Nice straw man argument.

        Invictus Games you didn’t even say anything here that wasn’t already obvious. No charity is ever started without help from others. Weird and rather pointless comments on your part.

      • Guest2.0 says:

        Wasn’t Harry very young (19?) when he founded Sentebale? At 35, I’m going to give Harry the benefit of the doubt that he’s learned a great deal through life experiences and has gained an understanding on how to conduct business. It will be interesting to see how the Sussexes proceed on their path to financial independence.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Sentebale was not rife with illegal activity, but nice try with attempting to re-write history. The first year or two the majority of the money raised went to overhead, something no charity wants. Once they got their feet under them, they’ve been doing fine. Inking new deals right and left, with Harry’s polo friend just releasing a cologne as a fund-raiser for Sentebale.

      • Frida_K says:

        Well, @JulieCarr, for what it’s worth…I know a coach whose athletes go to Invictus, and from all accounts that I’ve heard, the Kiwi athletes love Harry and are incredibly proud to be able to participate in the games. It’s always a joy to follow my friend’s social media during the Invictus season, in fact. I find their stories quite moving and their enthusiasm and pride is indeed touching and inspiring.

        Maybe it did have a rocky start but it certainly seems to be a flourishing institution now.

        So what’s your point?

      • KellyRyan says:

        Agree. Deals with Netflix, and there is LA chatter with Meghan becoming a talk show host. Good medium for her with human interest stories. Harry could work as a producer, learn the skills quickly and move up to EP. Both Tamron Hall and Kelly Clarkson have slipped easily into these rolls, as well as George Bush’s daughter, co-hosting with Hoda Kotb.

      • Abena Asantewaa says:

        @Juliecarr, please stop making up lies. Sentabale was set up in Malawi, when Harry was a teenager, it has since expanded taking in more children orphaned by Aids. There were no illegal issues,, it is very cruel and sinister of you to pluck lies from the air. Harry, is very creative and charismatic, look at the Olympian size success of Invictus. Apart ftom P. Charles, what other Royal has done what Harry has achieved?

    • Bren says:

      Oh, please. Harry is going to get a lot of inquiries for speaking engagements and more because he is a blood prince and Diana’s son who made a break from the institution.

    • Royalwatcher says:

      I think you’re completely wrong about Harry not earning bank for speaking arrangements. But I think the bulk of their work will be hosting parties, galas, dinners and the like to raise money for their charities. And people will definitely shell out huge money to rub shoulders with the Sussexes!! They’ll be fine money-wise.

      • Becks1 says:

        @royalwatcher agreed, especially if they have people like Oprah and the Clooneys at their events, esp in the early years.

      • Royalwatcher says:

        Good point, Becks!! They’ll be able to draw huge names to their events as well!!

    • Ava4eva says:

      I agree about Harry. If he’s not royal, he’s just some rich guy now that did some time in the military and travels. What is he going to talk about? Why would you turn to him as a speaker about climate change or military when there are people with better knowledge and backgrounds? I think Harry is the one that will suffer most. Or at least realize the real world isn’t all it’s cracked up to be

      • Guest2.0 says:

        As others have said, in the eyes and minds of the world, he will always be Prince Harry of the British Royal Family. Now, his haters may not see it that way. But Diana was always viewed as Princess Diana, even after her divorce.

      • Annie says:

        I agree. The public might take an interest in Harry for some time, but what happens when he is 50 and bald? Has anyone cared about Edward or Andrew for the past 20 years, apart from the Epstein scandal?

        Regarding the Diana comparison, she was an extremely unusual phenomenon. No other royal has ever had that kind of popularity, and however charming Meghan and Harry might be, I doubt they will either. They are popular, but not icons. And Diana died at 37, still at the height of her beauty and fame. No one knows what her situation would have been if she was alive today and nearly 60 years old.

        I hope everything works out for the Sussexes. The problem is, their brand lacks content. That is the whole thing about royalty: It’s all a myth, an illusion that people are “special” due to their royal status. Once you stray too far from the institution, the castles and tiaras, the magic wanes. People start to see you for what you really are: someone of average intellect, looks and ability, in a world full of more interesting people.

      • Pineapple says:

        AVA4EVA are you crazy???? Harry and Meghan are beloved by many. More importantly, respected by many. They have put their money where their mouths are. They are hoping to “thrive not just survive.” Harry is the only young Royal to have accomplished anything substantial prior to Meghan. These two will be FINE.

        Meanwhile, in the Castles, the Queens own son got her incredibly reliant advisor fired, we have had crazy crap for two years since that man was “pushed out”. Her other son is a pedophile. And her Grandson is smearing her (now gone) other Grandson.

        Anyone from a toxic family sees the genius of Meghan and Harry.

      • Rhys says:

        @Annie, “Once you stray too far from the institution, the castles and tiaras, the magic wanes. People start to see you for what you really are: someone of average intellect, looks and ability, in a world full of more interesting people.”

        - that is exactly it.

    • MsIam says:

      Harry will be fine. If the Rudy guy from the “Rudy” movie can make a living doing speeches based on his 15 minutes of fame, I think Prince Harry will do just fine. Look if he wanted the status quo then he would have played the game. He didn’t want that so he is going in a different direction with his wife and son. Who are we to say what will or won’t work out?

      • Elizabeth says:

        Relax, Harry is not going to suffer. You all want to paint such a dismal future for them.

        They’ll live out their years happy, wealthy, independent, and hopefully safe, surrounded by friends, working with tons of charities.

        Harry hates the tabloid press spotlight, openly blames it for his mother’s death, and is traumatized by it. He has literally said so. He wants a peaceful life with his family. End of story.

        The only thing I’m worried about is some deranged person (possibly a paparazzo or tabloid hack) causing their deaths.

      • Sass says:

        “The ‘Rudy’ guy”? Do you mean Sean Astin? Samwise from Lord of the Rings trilogy? Just did two whole ass seasons of Stranger Things? THE KID FROM THE GOONIES?

        Like I get what you’re saying but damn have some respect for Astin

      • Nancy says:

        The “Rudy” guy is based on a true story about a young guy that never gave up his dream to play for the Norte Dame Fighting Irish!😂

      • Dear Annie. — Harry is more than Just a head of hair.

      • MsIam says:

        No @Sass, not the actor, but the actual football player Rudy. He was on the field for one play in one game almost 50 years ago. He was able to sell his story and have it turned into a movie. He has been a motivational speaker among other ventures since then. And doing quite well. My point is that even someone who has a minor brush with celebrity was able to make it into a life long career and become an in demand speaker. I think Harry can do much better.

      • Stephanie Hawkins says:

        The nation loves football in spite of all this royal nonsense 15 of the top American us trending on Twitter are Nfl football related. Right now .Others are political and last in that group is the sag awards lol

      • Pity10 says:

        If you are talking about Sean Astin who played Rudy he’s still an actor. Rudy isn’t even his biggest film try Lord of the Rings Trilogy. Plus he’s also a big voiceover guy. Not to mention he’s son of Oscar winning, multiple Emmy Winning and Broadway actress the late great Patty Duke. She played Helen Keller at 16 and won an Oscar. She also had mental health issues and spoke a lot about them If Sean is speaking it’s for that cause, he doesn’t need the money. Funny you bring him up, he’s like Hollywood royalty but with their own money no taxpayers needed. Plus, Meghan would probably still be an actress if she had his career. He’s actually quite accomplished. Also, not sure why people think commenting this person did this means Harry and Meghan can do it too is a good argument. Weak beyond words, especially when you don’t know the facts.

      • Spicecake38 says:

        @Nancy,are you the long lost Nancy from Cleveland,my friend I’ve missed you if it’s you 😊And I have no idea what Rudy we’re supposed to do be talking about here,but I’m always happy to see someone make it in life….

    • notasugarhere says:

      I don’t see Harry out doing speaking engagements, as he hates public speaking. He already has a deal in place with Oprah and Apple for the mental health series as just one beginning.

    • Kebbie says:

      He’d get millions to sit on some random board if he wanted. Expertise means nothing, he’s a blood prince.

      • Guest says:

        People keep dragging harry wont know what to do. I think some hope he won’t know what to do because they think he’ll leave his wife and go back into the firm. Then what? Be a 40 yr old man living under his brother?

      • Kebbie says:

        It’s pretty ridiculous and it seems like some people just don’t know the way the world works. Brands, publishers, and studios will be throwing money at the both of them. Castles and tiaras are irrelevant. These two sell magazines, they’re charismatic, and everything she wears sells out in minutes. That’s not going to suddenly change because they’re not active royals.

        As long as they strike now, while the iron is hot, they can set themselves up for life.

    • Mego says:

      Sheesh 🙄 In a world where Kylie Jenner is a billionaire it shouldn’t be all that difficult for Prince Harry to do well for himself. If they have a modicum of business savvy combined with a good work ethic They should do fine.

      • Emma33 says:

        I actually LOLd at that. Yes, I don’t think I will lose any sleep worrying about where Harry’s next dollar is coming from. if he was in the army for that long, he’ll have a decent work ethic.

      • Byron says:

        Poor old harry ain’t no Kylie Jenner. He’s got no chance lol

    • morrigan01 says:

      Frankly, I just laugh my ass off at anyone who thinks Harry won’t be able to survive without the Royal Family. As said, that dude can just sit on some board behind the scenes and make millions.

      He’s already got a Apple TV deal with Oprah and Netflix has already let it be known they are looking for a production deal.

      Harry has NEVER had a need to be out in front of something, making speeches and stuff. He will mostly be a behind the scenes guy, helping to set up and organize things, producing things, etc.

      And for goodness sake he has Meghan by his side who is clearly smart as a whip. He won’t be alone in trying to decide what to do, and how to go about it. That’s what a team, an equal team, is all about. Helping each other and having each other’s backs.

      For goodness sake, we live in a world where YouTube personalities can make millions of dollars and, as @Mego said, where Kylie Jenner is a billionaire. If the freaking Kardashians can be rich and famous for no reason whatsoever, a man who is STILL a Prince (because he never lost that title) will be perfectly able to get things going.

      • Nic919 says:

        Remember when people forgot who Diana was once she lost her HRH. Yeah. That never happened.

      • Byron says:

        So are you saying they are going to trade off their royal connections? Looks like the royal family were good for something then.

      • morrigan01 says:

        @Byron Everyone everywhere trades off connections they have, and whatever privileges they have. It’s all part of networking. But if you are implying I think Harry is going to say something like “hey, help me with this and I’ll introduce you to my grandmother” or something, no I’m not implying that.

        Harry was born a Prince. He’s world famous. That alone is going to open doors for him no matter what and always will. It’s a privilege he has and always will have, until he dies. However, it’s up to HIM to actually do the work after he gets in the door. Otherwise, there will come a point when even his name and status won’t help him get much of anywhere.

        Look at Anderson Cooper. Everyone damn well knows he’s a Vanderbilt. That name and his connection to it opened a lot of doors for him. But he *still* had to actually put in the work to climb the ranks to get to where he is, all the while acknowledging the privilege he had just getting in the door. The same will be true with someone like Harry, and always would be no matter whom he married.

    • Myra says:

      Brits have NO IDEA the potential the Sussex ‘s have outside of their racist country. I give them 3 months before they announce a 100+ million deal with some huge American company. Harry and Meghan will have the final laugh…meanwhile the British Taxpayers will be providing a Royal Lifestyle for their Pedophile Princes. Our American Princess and her husband will be alright!

      • The Other Katherine says:

        No kidding. In a pinch, Harry alone could fund them for the rest of their lives just by doing ads and endorsement deals for watches and other high-end luxury goods for the next 10 years or so, if he was willing to stoop to being the paid face of a brand. Harry and Meghan have enormous cachet, name recognition, and personal goodwill in the American market in particular. They will be fiiiiine.

        (Which is a bit ironic, when you consider how much racism has come screaming to the fore in American politics recently. But the success of Nike’s brand campaign with Colin Kaepernick is a good example of how many big U.S. companies see promoting a non-racist image as a good investment — they’re trying to attract nationwide consumer spending power, not win popularity contests in half-empty tracts of land so they can sew up the electoral college.)

  5. GuestOne says:

    Wasn’t Harry doing real life when he was in the army including serving in Afghanistan?

    Harry has examples of his non working royal cousins like zara, Peter, Beatrice etc who seem to be doing fine. You see people all the time just through posh family connections who get jobs. I doubt a British prince is going to struggle.

    Not sure the royals want Harry to step away permanently (I figure they don’t care about Meghan). Perhaps review is because by then some of the court cases may be over& perhaps some dust settled. I feel that played a big part in all of this.

    • Kebbie says:

      Apparently spending 10 years in the military and doing two tours in an active war zone doesn’t count as real life. Touring poverty stricken areas, meeting with wounded warriors, and walking minefields isn’t life experience. He hasn’t worked retail or waited tables, so he knows nothing about the real world…or something.

      • morrigan01 says:

        I swear, some people have this caricature version of Harry in their heads. They *still* think of him as the 19 year old wayward and troubled party boy, instead of the 35 year old grown up man, army vet, and now father.

  6. Originaltessa says:

    Real question here… Are we thinking Meghan is going to go back to acting? Like she’s just going to star in the next Star Wars or something? I can’t picture it. I really can’t. She was ok in Suits, at best. In my mind they were just going to doing speaking tours and make documentaries and stuff.

    • Royalwatcher says:

      Agreed. I think she may do more voiceover things for charity, like she’s apparently doing for Disney, but no way will she return to acting. I think she’ll continue to do things like the Hubb cookbook, SmartSet, and Vogue. Specific projects that raise money and attention for things she’s passionate about.

      I’m very disappointed though that none of her patronages have come out to support her and say they look forward to their continued relationship (or whatever). So many members of the military spoke out for Harry and crickets from Meghan’s charities. I suppose they might have been waiting for this all to shake out, but now it’s been publicly stated she’ll keep her patronages and they still haven’t said a word (except the a-hole at the National Theatre who came out to bad mouth her). Especially SmartWorks who she’s done so much for. Disappointing!!

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Royalwatcher, what did the National Theatre employee say? I’ve also been disappointed by the silence of Meghan’s patronages. Even if she wasn’t going to do further work with any of them, it would’ve been nice to see ONE supportive statement. The fact that someone from NT is badmouthing her about this situation (after she recently visited them too) is disconcerting and shows how influential the British press have been.

      • Enn says:

        The person from the National Theatre felt blindsided that she did a visit as patron on behalf of TQ hours before the “we don’t want to be full-time royals any longer” IG announcement.

        Which is valid.

      • MsIam says:

        She couldn’t make any announcement to the patronage because nothing was decided. And since they were still pushing to be HRH and keep some patronages she couldn’t tell them if they were staying or leaving. The NT person is being a salty d!ck imo.

      • Lady D says:

        She was angry that all this Sussexit stuff was going on and Meghan did not bother to call her to personally fill her in on the situation. Instead of picking up the phone to ask what was going on, she called the DM to badmouth Meghan. I like to think that the board of directors of the theatre dumped a ton of sh*t on her for mouthing off like that. She hasn’t been heard from since.

      • Enn says:

        That’s not even close to being a salty d!ck but okay. She could have not done the visit if she knew that there was much more going on behind the scenes. That person was expressing valid emotions, which seemed to be hurt and surprise, especially if the NT has formed a relationship with her and was possibly involved in ongoing plans with her or something.

        Like put down the Saints Harry and Meghan standard for two minutes and look at it objectively from the point of view of the regular people who have been working with them.

      • Hope says:

        @Enn. Two things can be right at the same time. The National Theatre people can have questions that need to be answered and it can be wrong for them go to the DM of all places! There are appropriate channels for this and the DM isn’t it.

      • Enn says:

        It’s like shouting into the void over here. I don’t know why I bother.

      • Hope says:

        What is the issue with what I said?

      • Enn says:

        @Hope three things can be true at the same time: your first two, as well as the fact that it was a misstep to visit a patronage hours before the announcement.

        Look, we’ve always thought that Meghan was a hands-on patron, with more going on behind the scenes than the public knew about. I’m assuming (maybe incorrectly, but based on what we know of her) that she had built a relationship with the staff at NT and was involved in ongoing planning and strategies. When TQ passed the patronage to Meghan, I’m sure a lot of the staff were excited to get to work with her, just as I’m sure that she was warm and friendly and genuinely interested in the work.

        So I’m saying that I understand if someone had feelings of hurt and confusion at a bombshell announcement just after what was her first scheduled work visit after the break (I would feel like that was significant if I was on staff!). Going to the DM was not a good idea, but we don’t know the motive.

      • Yeah, not a good look for the National Theatre Board member. I’ve worked with these sorts of high level boards before. Their other patrons may not be a royal but rest assured they are wealthy and savvy and none of them like a working board member (or what they think of as ‘staff’) to be indiscreet. It does not sell in their rarified, privileged world. You keep your mouth shut. If you are in discrete about one, their thinking is what’s to prevent you from being in discrete about them. I’m sure she was told immediately, to sit down and shut up.

      • Nic919 says:

        Going to the DM to complain is tacky, especially because Meghan didn’t just ignore them forcing them to get Ed Sheeran to step in.

      • PrincessK says:

        Well, Mayhew have made a statement saying that Meghan will retain her position as Patron. Don’t believe everything you read, l doubt if the National Theatre people
        were angry. I think that the meeting was held for a specific reason which will be revealed. Holding on to the National Theatre may be tricky but let’s see. Meghan has known for months that she was going to leave the U.K., and l am sure she has a plan.

    • ira says:

      Why not? I like her in Suit. She visited her NT patronage several times since she got it from TQ, so maybe acting and performance art is something that she really enjoy and important for her.. I would love to see her in Netflix or Amazon original series. If Jessica Beal could get Netflix deal, why not Meghan?

      • Originaltessa says:

        I just don’t see it, not saying it can’t happen. I just wanted a gauge of what people were thinking Meghan’s next move would be career wise. I didn’t like her in Suits, but others did obviously, so perhaps she will try acting again.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      I don’t think she’ll return to acting, I can however see her becoming a producer – I can see her making documentaries etc.. that promote/educate for her patronages. She has the connections to make that happen and to make it successful.

      Harry’s partnership with Oprah is just the beginning in that area.

      • Mich says:

        Aside from voice-overs for charity, I highly doubt she will return to acting. Things I can see her doing:
        - Producing films/documentaries/a children’s show focusing on empowering girls
        - More cookbooks
        - Launching a magazine
        - Developing a clothing line (either for adults or children)
        - If they buy a large estate, creating upmarket products a la the Duchy of Cornwall
        - Investing in start-ups run by women
        - Paid speaking engagements
        - Writing books aimed at empowering women
        - Creating a healthy-living food brand (a la Oprah)

      • Actress, nah. Talk show panel or host, nah. Governor General of Canada, nah. Anything that ties them down that much, nah. These two are going to build their Foundation and create their own path.

      • Elizabeth says:

        She could have a show on the Food Network, where she travels to different restaurants run by women.

    • Kebbie says:

      No, I don’t see her going back to acting. I think producing and speaking engagements are a definite possibility and she has always fancied herself a writer, so columns and books, probably. She’ll be a high profile philanthropist who earns millions, I think.

      • Midigo says:

        Since when a philanthropist earns millions? It s not a job, you know. You are not supposed to make profit out of your charity. Quite the opposite, you invest your own money and expertise in them in order to benefit others.

      • Mich says:

        @Midigo She will be a person who makes millions AND be a high profile philanthropist. People who bang on about them profiting from their charity are being ridiculous. It is complete lunacy to act like these two are going to be reduced to penury when the reality is that the entire world is knocking on their door right now.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Princess Mabel of the Netherlands, who works with The Elders and Girls Not Brides, is a high-profile philanthropist. She also invested in tech companies, and was set to clear 40million USD on the sale of a portion of her tech stock. You just never know.

      • Kebbie says:

        Thank you, Mich. Thought that was obvious but apparently not!

        @Midigo Most people that are known for their philanthropy are millionaires and billionaires. All that wealth is why they can focus on charity. The charity comes after the wealth, it doesn’t generate the wealth.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Or not, as evidenced by what I wrote about Princess Mabel. Her wealth came after her philanthropy and charity work.

      • PrincessK says:

        The Sussexes will be social entrepreneurs combining making profits and contributing to and building up good causes. It is a very wide field.

    • Mumbles says:

      There was an article in Slate – hardly a rag like the DM or Sun – where they asked casting agents what Meghan’s prospects were should she want to return to acting. The conclusion was – given her adequate but limited skill set, she’s not likely to get a lot of work, other than stunt casting. Too bad they don’t make “The Love Boat” anymore.

      As for the one year review, I guess that’s to make sure they’re not using the brand in an embarrassing way?

      • Sass says:

        Slate has a history of being full of contrarian blowhards who go digging for non stories. Like the one you described. She likely has no interest in returning to acting. Slate is no better than the rest of them, they just enjoy stirring the pot and playing the “too cool to care” card to death.

      • Royalwatcher says:

        Surely they won’t be doing anything more embarrassing than Peter Phillips, lounging in front of a palace shilling milk in China. Or all of the watches and other things that Zara sells. And both of them are allowed to do what they do. I can’t imagine the Sussexes will be doing anything more crass or embarrassing than those two, so I think they’ll be fine come the one-year check in. Plus, they’ve clearly stated their desire is to do more charity work, not return to acting or the military (Harry) or whatever.

    • tcbc says:

      I can see her producing, and maybe eventually directing, tv shows and specials focussed on social issues. They could get a production deal with Netflix or one of the other streaming services.

      I can also see her hosting yearly interview-type shows, like Barbara Walters used to do. If she could score big names the first couple of years (she’d certainly get Serena Williams, and that could lead to other A-listers), she’d become established in that realm very quickly.

      I think a lot of high profile people of color want her to succeed post-Sussexit, especially given the way she was treated by the royal family and the press. It’s a very visible example of the harsh treatment all people of color face from white establishment, and a clear example of press hypocrisy, too.

      • PrincessK says:

        Meghan has built up a lot of good will around the world and others are lining up to engage with her. I can see Anna Wintour waiting in the wings…..the possibilities are endless…..what are the bets on seeing Meghan and Harry at the Met Gala and then Ms Wintour will later do something to return the favour.

        The King of Morocco made a specific request for the Sussexes to visit, and he is mega rich. The Foreign Office admitted that the Sussexes got the most requests for overseas tours. They really are the brightest stars in the RF, and no wonder there was a behind the scenes plot to curtail their power.

        My only concern is their safety.

    • Sparkle says:

      Why does this woman feel like Meghan owed her anything? This is the whole problem with these people…they all feel Meghan and Harry owe them! Everything is strings attached…

      In America, you don’t usually tell all your clients or colleagues anything when you are finalizing your plans to resign. It is kept a secret until you are ready pull the trigger.

      This women needs to get a clue. Meghan is nobody’s property and is not a slave. Meghan QUIT the royal family. The NT existed for a long time without Meghan and will continue to exist just fine. The entitlement of some of these people is unreal.

      • Royalwatcher says:

        +1 Especially with how much more visibility she brought the orgs that she has worked with or those spotlighted on their IG page. How much did her SmartSet earn for SmartWorks? And they can’t put out one word of support?!?

        I hope now that things are settled, her patronages will speak up.

    • morrigan01 says:

      She was never going to go back to acting, and the people who kept insisting so did it because they hadn’t listen to a damn thing she has ever said, even before she met Harry.

      Before she met Harry she was clearly already thinking about what her life and career would be like after her show was done and she was over 40, which is when work always begins to taper off for working actresses, even if you are on the A-list. She was clearly setting her sights on heading back into her other love of politics, what with her charity work and as a UN Ambassador.

      If she has anything to do with Hollywood, it’ll be in a producing and writing sense, likely even starting up a production company along with Harry. Production companies are like candy these days, everyone is starting one.

      People who kept (and keep) insisting she would go back to acting want to continue to have this idea/character of her as a shallow, empty-headed Hollywood starlet. Not the person who she actually is.

  7. Becks1 says:

    I find the one year aspect really interesting. It makes me think that someone in the royal family understands what a gap this is going to leave and they know they are going to want to bring Harry and Meghan back. I don’t think they will ever go back, but I think the royals are going to try.

    The other thing that this made me think of was the queen abdicating. Remember there was that weird story a month or so ago about the queen considering abdication when she turns 95? That will be spring 2021, right? So maybe that is part of these discussions.

    I know people say she will NEVER step down but never say never.

    • Royalwatcher says:

      That’s an interesting point! I just cannot see her stepping down though. And I can’t see the Sussexes wanting to come back to work with/for Charles since he did nothing to protect or defend them up to now. Plus with William being one step closer to the crown he’ll probably be even more of an abusive dick. So I can’t see them coming back even if the queen abdicates.

    • Elle says:

      Maybe the RF is just hoping the marriage will fall apart by then. Cynical, I know, but plausible.

      • Kebbie says:

        That’s what all the DM commenters think, but it’s not like they wouldn’t take back a divorced Harry in a heartbeat, even if this arrangement had been made “permanent.”

    • Lucy2 says:

      I think the one year thing could actually make a lot of sense. It’s sort of a cooling off period, giving H&M time to do what they choose and have some freedom, and be able to come back to the family and say look, it’s worked great for a year, we’re doing fine and you’re fine without us, so let’s move on.

    • Belinda says:

      Good catch with the date!

    • bamaborn says:

      Becks1…all of this! Nobody was hardly talking about that irrelevant institution until Prince Harry along with Duchess Meghan made them vogue again. They know Wills and Kate are not up to the task. Charles and Camilla? Good luck with that. Think they’d tolerate Duchess Meghan just to get Harry back.

    • JanetDR says:

      I assumed that that year would be to evaluate security, and if the crown would continue to cover it (again, I’m assuming that’s the case). I never thought about about the Queen possibly stepping down! Food for thought. I have no worries about Harry and Meghan’s future, except security. I’ve been snortling to myself over some of the hater’s comments!

    • I don’t see them coming back. Their train has left the station and I don’t think it’s a round trip itinerary.

      • Babz says:

        I agree. This was not a small decision, and despite what the tabloids are shrieking, talks were going on for months. The Queen, in her own statement, said that. This is one of those life-changing events, taken by two people who want to carve out a future that fits them. Revisiting this in a year is a smart things to do, on both sides. It happens all the time in businesses, to make any necessary adjustments in order to move forward. Besides all that, can you just imagine what the tabs would do to them if they came back? It would be more relentless, and even uglier than it is now, if that’s possible. These are two grown people, not two teenagers, and I honestly believe they will not only survive this, but thrive in their new lives.

  8. Aurora says:

    The 1 year evaluation is more about hoping they’ll return as Senior Royals. I can’t see Meghan and Harry forgoing the sweet taste of freedom and stifling their ambitions only to come back and prop up the mediocrity of the Cambridges by being the U.K. press’s whipping boy.

    • damejudi says:

      I think the clock ticking on this “one year” will become very stressful for the Cambridges, not for the Sussexes.

      The BRF will be looking very plainly at who did what in this year, and I have little doubt that Harry and Meghan will have lots to show one year from now.

      • Royalwatcher says:

        Fingers crossed!! I hope all of the leaking sources come out into the open. I think the Sussexes already know (I think a ton of info came out in the discovery portion of their lawsuit) but I want us all to know!

      • notasugarhere says:

        I hope the lawsuit forces those leakers out in the open, including W&K, Carole, and the recently-fired staffer at KP.

    • Emily says:

      William will reap what he has sown when George starts playing this petty games with him. No idea where all this “I am the heir” self importance comes from because the monarchy is symbolic. He won a birth lottery and that’s it.

      • blacktoypoodle says:

        I had to explain to my old-enough-to-know-better (25) young cousin that the definition of Royalty is that one of your ancestors killed somebody and took over the throne. And the infinite descendants have not had to do anything since.
        It’s not the “Princess Diaries” of her dreams.

  9. Feeshalori says:

    I have a feeling Charles is going to need Harry during his monarchy more than Harry will need him despite talks of a slimmed down monarchy. I’m sure Charles is highly concerned about Harry’s absence when he knows he’s only got the work shy duo to help him. No wonder the royal family wants to revisit this situation in a year, but Harry and Meghan undoubtedly will love that sweet taste of freedom and hopefully not look back.

    • Royalwatcher says:

      I totally agree. But Charles should have thought about that these past 3 years and done more to publicly support Meghan and got whatever leakers in his office were badmouthing her to the press (Jobson!) to STFU!!! He’s burnt the bridge himself and allowed William to as well so…you reap what you sow, Charles!! Too bad, so sad 🤷🏽‍♀️

      • Pineapple says:

        Yah, Charles basically caused all of this. Pushing out the Queen’s trusted advisor two years ago. The gentleman apparently often subdued conflict between Charles and the boys and the boys themselves. Also, he intelligently protected the Queen’s interests. Charles could no longer stand not having his way. In his power grab he has let all know the Queen is blind to sense, powerless. He has a horrid relationship with his sons and that the whole lot of them are petty, racist, tools. I wouldn’t be looking for “wise planning” from Charles …

      • Elisa says:

        Exactly! And I fail to understand why he isn’t dragged more for his role in all of this…

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      I agree – Charles is going to try and woo them back into the fold in someway but you can be sure William will put a stop to that unless the Sussex’s agree to be his whipping toys that he can throw to the wolves as often as he likes.

      Everyone in the RF can see their star power but only Charles wants to harness it, he’s the only one who can see how good it is for the Monarchy and him personally.

      • Feeshalori says:

        Yep, all may be swell while Charles is alive and welcoming Harry and Meghan back like prodigal children. But you can bet your bottom dollar, or pound, that all bets are off once and if seething William becomes king. As I said in another post, if that day ever comes, if I were Harry and Megan I wouldn’t want to be in the same room with William let alone the same country. Then it’s feeding time again at the zoo. Charles has much to answer for because of his unsupportive behavior.

    • Well they might help him with the Commonwealth. But cutting ribbons and cakes, etc. I see that as a big, nah.

  10. BlueSky says:

    Daniel Summers posted this on Twitter and I think it rings true about Harry:

    “It’s almost as though he cares more about his happiness and that of his wife and child than remaining part of a system that destroyed his mother’s life when he was a child himself.”

  11. Hope says:

    Someone just leaked three of Archie’s godparent to the Sunday Times. William just used the Sunday Times for his “separate entities” leak so most likely him, but the Yorks like the Times as well.

    Interesting that Harry’s choices were leaked.

    • Kebbie says:

      So, that answers our question about what the press will do with Meghan and Harry gone. Re-hash old news!

    • Yes and the slant of the article was now Meghan has taken their godchild away from them so they will have little influence in poor Archie’s life.

      • MsIam says:

        Well obviously @JA, Harry and Meghan are planning on going off to colonize Mars and they will never return to earth with poor Archie again.

      • Hope says:

        @MsIam. So attention-getting! What are the politics of The Crown supporting colonizing Mars? So confusing!

        You know, I’m such a big supporter of Harry and Meghan and I think they have good intentions but with a messy execution. I just wish they thought things out more and had better people advising them. (Am I doing this disingenuous helpful condescension thing correctly?)

      • VS says:

        @Hope —— LOL
        not quite; you are still missing how uppity she is. Who does she think she is? She is too confident and doesn’t fluster…….look at how she was at the wedding? she must have planned to take poor Harry away from loving, non-racist British people

      • Jaded says:

        @Hope – hahahaaaa! You’re doing the disingenuous helpful condescension thing perfectly! Oh, and we should mention how deeply devastated and heart-broken the Queen is that she’s losing her favourite grandson (albeit to a divorced, bi-racial *actress* [SNIFFS HUFFILY]

    • Nic919 says:

      Roya also had an exclusive of them moving to “Africa” so we don’t actually know if any of this info is correct.

      • Hope says:

        True, but it’s so unsettling that they’re going after a baby like this. I believe that a large part of why Harry and Meghan left was to avoid their child being turned into a public commodity and a scapegoat for the Cambridge kids and now here is possibly private information about their son in the Sunday Times. It feels like a message is being sent.

      • PrincessK says:

        Well, it was probably true. We now know for sure that these talks have been going on for months, Africa was probably suggested as a place that would isolate the Sussexes from powerful friends. So the Sussexes decided to take the matter into their own hands.

        I absolutely believe the Roya exclusive….there is so much more intrigue to be revealed.

    • Babz says:

      If that was William doing the leaking, I think someone is about to overplay his hand. This is just too coincidental, timing-wise, and beyond that, petty AF. As several posters above said, I want him, and Carol Middleton, and whoever else has been leaking, to be exposed for the public to see. I just keep remembering Harry saying, “if you knew what I know…” well, it might be about time for the public, especially the British public, to know.

  12. Alyse says:

    I don’t think it would have been the Queen who wanted Harry to give up the military and youth commonwealth patronages. They would be representing the Queen and that’s something I assume they’ll not be doing anymore? I think Harry and Meghan knew they needed to give up some of their patronages if they were no longer to be senior royals. I think this makes sense in all honesty.

    • MsIam says:

      I think it makes sense too, if only from a logistical standpoint. They are going to be awfully busy setting up the foundation and whatever else they plan to do. This way they won’t be accused of neglecting their patronages because they’re “too busy”. Why give your enemies more ammunition?

    • Ainsley7 says:

      They were never going to be able to represent the Queen and make commercial deals. Those rules were set up between the government and the monarchy. HRHs aren’t allowed to make money off their titles. This isn’t the Queen’s decision at all. This is just them looking at the rules and coming up with a plan that best fits Harry and Meghan’s wishes. They want a private income more than they want honorary army ranks. It’s as simple as that.

      • Hope says:

        Except Andrew has done that for years. All kidding aside, I think there should be an inquiry on all the rules that have bent for Andrew.

      • Ainsley7 says:

        @Hope, Andrew was not making commercial deals. He was making shady deals with extremely shady people. Parliament was more vocal back in 2011 about Andrew when he was forced to resign as trade ambassador. Back then, they called him out on his friendships shady dictators and arms dealers. I think they are too focused on Brexit to worry about the Royals right now, but there should definitely be an inquiry. The fact that he leaked government secrets should really be getting their attention even if they’re going to ignore that he raped girls.

      • Olive says:

        The Kents use their HRH in commercial deals

  13. Elizabeth says:

    Wow this is really bringing out the trolls. Even on this site.

    Newsflash Nicole: when their child was called a chimpanzee it’s not about “it was their choice to leave.” Hmm?

  14. Snap Happy says:

    Are they asking Kate to pay back all the $ she spent on redecorating twice? I doubt the Sussexes were financial drains.

    I’m just musing here, but the financially independent thing is going to be easy for the Sussexes. Speaking fees alone will be high. I wonder how the other royals feel about it? Because really, Harry and Meghan have a ton of charisma and connections. They will be fine. There is no way Beatrice or Eugenie could bring in their numbers. Looking forward, would Charlotte and Louis be able to bring in enough to be financially independent to the point they can pay their own security? Maybe that won’t be an issue if they stay in the U.K.?

    • Nic919 says:

      Lots issues there. How many kitchen renovations were reimbursed? Where did the money from the French lawsuit go? No mention of the damages ever being awarded to charity. Was it pocketed?

      • notasugarhere says:

        I lost track of the number of kitchens. At 1A there was the ‘family’ kitchen, the professional catering kitchen, the kitchen in the nursery, the kitchenette in Nanny Maria’s space, the staff kitchen in the basement. The RPO quarters and kitchen installed at the Middleton’s house but paid by taxpayers. The new kitchen at Anmer plus the kitchenette in the nanny quarters.

    • Lady D says:

      In a couple of years, the Sussex’s could be offering Eugenie a job in their foundation. I personally doubt it because of the Andrew connection, but I understand the S’s got along well with her.

  15. S808 says:

    They’ll both be more than fine and I don’t get the year review because I don’t see them coming back for a long time— if ever.

  16. Talie says:

    It all seems to be a matter of perspective, but it does seem like Harry and Meghan got everything they wanted. I never bought that they wanted to be half-in and half-out. I think that was just a negotiating tactic to lessen the blow to the queen. Whatever the reevaluation is in a year, it won’t matter, the horse will have left the stable. They could be worth a $100-$200 million just by next January.

    Peter Hunt wrote the best article in the Spectator that the monarchy ultimately lost and I think The Queen knows it. They all do. But egos, money and back-stabbing got the best of all of them in the end. How different would things have been if The Queen had released a supportive statement about Meghan a year ago? We’ll never know now…

    • Pineapple says:

      Talle … I think the Queen would have released a statement a year back if she still had her old advisor. But Charles had him outed. All of this ruckus comes on the heels of that. All of this. The Queen allowed her one true advisor, who appeased Charles, William and Harry, to be let go. Charles has a huge had in all of this. He should be ashamed of himself. Horribly ashamed.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I find it problematic that the main players in the institution can’t function effectively without a mediator. The core of the problem is that this family is so toxic that they can’t work together effectively because they let their egos get in the way. They shouldn’t have to rely on a mediator to fulfill their roles effectively – and the Monarch’s chief of staff shouldn’t be required to mediate between family members because they let their pride end ego get in the way of compromise.

        If the smooth function of the institution is reliant upon senior staff playing nursemaid to overblown egos, then the monarchy isn’t worth much.

      • Pineapple says:

        Problematic … to say the least.

      • PrincessK says:

        No the royal private secretaries are not there really as mediators but as advisers and therein lies their power, they have vested interests and this is why factions develop creating divisive situations. The monarchy could not exist without these powerful people and the history of the British monarchy is littered with stories of powerful courtiers holding sway.

  17. TheOriginalMia says:

    I saw an explanation for the loss of his military patronages. Something to do with the fact that he no longer represents the Queen, therefore he can’t be Captain or whatever of her brigade. Whatever. It is a shame because people really respected him because he was one of them. I guess this means if he does Trooping, he’ll be in uniform, but stripped of all his regalia. We’ll see.

    As for Charles, he’s going to support his son because he loves him and he hopes he returns with his family. He messed up big time and he’ll want to make amends. I was talking to my mom. The inheritance Harry would have gotten when the Queen passes is going to be funneled to him now. Harry and Meghan will be fine.

    I’m just happy for them. They are free. I don’t see them returning to the fold next Spring. So many things could happen in their year of freedom that returning to the confines of the family probably won’t be appealing.

    • Ainsley7 says:

      He’s allowed to wear whatever he earned while in the military. It’s only the honorary ranks that he is being stripped of. I doubt he minds being stripped of the honorary stuff. That isn’t the part that mattered to him or people respected him for.

      • I always respected Harry in that he has never put anything on his uniform he did not earn. Unlike Charles who is beginning to look like a friggin Christmas tree when he’s in uniform.

    • Kebbie says:

      It’s not like that regalia actually meant anything. Just speculation, but given that he actually served, he may not want those empty honors anyways.

  18. Skittlesandkittens says:

    The video was horrible, I cringed so, so hard. “She will do anyone but Scar”.. everyone looked so uncomfortable. I see fast food commericals a couple years down the line.

    • S808 says:

      Well it worked. She got a voiceover deal with Disney and the proceeds will benefit Elephants Without Borders.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Keep crying salty tears, tumblr.

    • VS says:

      I saw that video…did you actually hear what he said? because no one was able to; someone subtitled it pretending to know what Harry said…….

      I thought the Internet will make people more informed; in fact the opposite happened; some people are completely unable to apply any type of critical thinking. They hear something online, only some bothered to double check or ask the right questions; the others just take it as the truth. @Skittlesandkittens is a perfect example of those people……..the internet, access to information in milli or nano seconds has been wasted on people like you………then you will be on the streets, accusing Bill G. or Mark Z. or Jeff D. or anyone you can point finger at for your lack of critical skills

      Anyway back to celebitchy, I am happy for H&M&A. I only followed the RF because of M. She will always have my full support in all her endeavors. They will be fine. They have enough money that if well managed, they can live off of it very comfortably

      • Marie says:

        The interesting thing is that this video has been available since July but only NOW people are saying Harry was pitching Meghan for a project. How interesting. You can’t make out a thing Harry said. Besides, that guy said he was working with Harry at the premiere, anyway. This deal could have been done before the premiere. And if he did pitch Meghan for a project, so what? That’s how you network. Harry has to network to get sponsors for his work. Nothing wrong with that.

      • Right. It’s like the ‘experts’ reading body language from a 5 second clip. Trying to read lips from someone half turned away from the camera half the time falls somewhere in there too. That said, I have no problem with networking. That’s how executive level business works to a great extent.

    • Nic919 says:

      Wow funny you say that because Peter Phillips has literally done a milk commercial in China.

  19. Bren says:

    How is it embarrassing that a charity will receive a financial benefit from Meghan’s voiceover work? Harry using an opportunity to network is smart.

  20. Joy says:

    I’ve seen this before. Crappy mediocre employees always get mad when real go getters show up. Such is the situation here. In a year, QE2 could be gone. She’s pushing 100. That could be part of the one year revisit.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Yeah it could be that in a year Charles is regent – there has been rumours for a while thats something thats in the works.

      • Pineapple says:

        I don’t know Guest, as for me, I am getting sick and tired of the right wing crazies, the hired bots. Unethical and immoral people spreading lies? It is no wonder we are in an Extinction event. The powers that be have decided, “Forget these humans, they are useless.” To me, this whole British Royal Family Debacle underscores everything wrong with humanity. Oooooh, someone should write a PHD on that.

        This should be after the Guest comment at 11:36. It got placed incorrectly somehow.

  21. Powermoonchrystal says:

    You do not seem to live in the real world. That is how these things work, conversations and networking. I am sure that if you have a job, you have used opportunities to talk to people about the great ideas you have. Otherwisr, what are you waiting for? Get offline and do something of your life :)

  22. S808 says:

    What they’re representing now? Mental health, military (veterans), women’s rights, etc.
    Meghan is already getting educated on the issues of indigenous women and girls in Canada

    • fatladysinging says:

      Book Rec: “Heart Berries” by Terese Marie Mailhot

      Pull out quot from the flap: “[First Nations'] girls can be forgotten so well they forget themselves.”

    • Moose says:

      There is a lot of detail on their new website – they’ve mentioned all the good work M has done over the last few years and quantified the successes. Any mention remaining on Cambridges Foundation site of H&M work better get removed soon… Do we know whether H&M will have a separate Foundation website or will it be included within Sussexroyal?

      ETA: I am sooooo excited for them!

  23. Seraphina says:

    I do agree with other readers, that taste of freedom is sweet but even sweeter is that they don’t have to deal so much with the other idiots: Kate and Wills and courtiers.

    No matter what they will never be 100% free due to them always being a part of the BRF.

  24. carmen says:

    I thought Tom Bradby was the trusted journo that M&H went to? Omid seems to have a good track record and credibility but I didn’t think he was the one they went to directly. I guess it doesn’t have to be an either/or proposition, I just had the impression he didn’t deal with them directly..

    • Kebbie says:

      I’m sure they’ve got a number of friendly journalists. Obviously they’ve spoken directly to Bradby on camera, but Omid has been getting their side of the story out for a while now.

  25. fatladysinging says:

    I once had a soft spot for Charles. No longer. Burn it all down — down to the ground.

  26. S808 says:

    My final comment is something that’s been bothering me. People keeps talking about how Harry will be “homesick” and “walking away from everything he’s known” but couldn’t spare that concern for Meghan. She went through a LOT of life changes in a VERY short amount of time and no one showed that type of concern for her. Harry is making a choice just like she did. He doesn’t have to learn any new customs and they’re not going to be poor by any stretch of the imagination. He’s a big boy, he’ll be okay.

    • Guest2.0 says:

      Thank you. I’ve been thinking the same thing. Meghan made a great sacrifice in marrying Harry. Yet no one shows any concern on how this has affected her. Hell, pregnancy alone is enough for a woman to go through, let alone everything else that was thrown at her. Harry’s a big boy…he’ll do just fine.

    • fatladysinging says:

      Don’t you know? Us black girls and women are never supposed to show signs of any trauma or hurt or grief. We’re not allowed to mess up, silly! Forgiveness is not for us. We’re supposed to just be there for white folks when they’re hurting — and if we’re not, well, then we’re slapped across the face as “selfish.” Compassion is not for us to enjoy, just to extend.

      • Hey FatLadySinging —. Well said and obviously heartfelt.

      • Nlopez says:

        +1000

      • Babz says:

        @FatLadySinging, that kind of treatment of anyone categorized as “other” is something we should all be ashamed of. You ladies of color, of all ages, have had to carry a burden no one should ever have to carry. Thank you for your eloquent explanation.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        @FATLADYSINGING So true! That’s what Meghan said. No one had asked how she was doing. They all expected her to be fine because black women put up with so much and rarely complain. She’s human. They should have cared that she was being targeted for abuse on a daily basis, even during pregnancy.

      • VS says:

        Exactly!!!!!!! No on ever wondered how M was doing after completely uprooting her life for Harry. They are still going to come to the UK; they have a house there; They will spend time in Canada; that’s not MARS and they can fly………..

      • Royalwatcher says:

        @fatladysinging – THIS, yes, a million times yes. It’s also infuriating to me that Kate comes out a few weeks ago advocating for maternal health…after staying silent during Meghan’s entire pregnancy. They are all complicit in Meghan’s abuse.

        And, for some reason your comment made me remember how many times Kate talked about “being looked after” by William and Charles too (I believe) during her newlywed years. She was given so much leeway and support for not working (or doing whatever she wanted) those first few years…while Meghan was thrown to the wolves by that family.

      • Jaded says:

        @fatladysinging: So, so many women of colour, even those who are successful in their professional spheres, have had and still have a burden that white women will NEVER have or understand. Meghan, unwittingly, has become the poster child for how no matter how accomplished, compassionate and intelligent you are, if you are a POC you WILL be judged negatively by your race.

    • Sass says:

      You are correct. I have felt so much empathy for Meghan since 2016 and it has only grown. Yes I also see that Harry is in pain but it’s because it hurts to see how your own family is treating the person you love and you realize you have to make a choice. Harry made the right choice. And I’m sure Meghan has terrible guilt about it even though none of it is her fault. It’s a very complicated emotional cocktail. You’re in love, you have a family, but the whole time you’re fighting people who want you gone and “fighting” looks a lot like doing what is expected until serious boundaries are crossed and when you say “no stop” it becomes a living hell. And then your partner chooses you but his family makes him feel bad about it and he misses what he thought they had and you want to comfort him but you worry about possible resentment. I’m only speaking from my own experience in this and I’m not even adding the disgusting racist element to it that Meghan has had to endure. She is likely very sad about all of it and that’s totally understandable. It could have been so different but these people are just shit.

      • Babz says:

        There is going to have to be a period of healing for both of them. Once Harry gets back to Canada and reunited with Meghan and Archie, I hope they go to ground for a good long while and just rejoice in being together. This entire episode has so many components, and they owe it to themselves, and their mental health, to deal with all of that so they can begin to move forward, whole and healthy.

    • Nic919 says:

      It’s a very misogynistic view as well because Meghan was expected to drop her life to be with her husbands family in another country whereas if Harry changes his life in any small way it’s “poor him! He has to change a bit!”

  27. Beach Dreams says:

    The Queen and RF clearly didn’t want this to happen. Just look at BP’s snippy response to the Sussexes’ initial announcement, the Queen’s “heartfelt” (lol) statement after the Sandringham meeting, and all the attempts to stonewall Harry for months. The RF are hoping that the Sussexes will fail or at least feel compelled to come back to them in a year.

    There seems to be a constant flow of new trolls (and some of the usual suspects) with wishful thinking that the Sussexes will find themselves destitute and begging for work. Seriously? There are so many two-bit reality stars and nobodies that have made lucrative careers out of absolutely nothing. You must seriously hate Meghan and Harry to truly convince yourselves that their earning potential is nothing major 😂

    • Royalwatcher says:

      Yeah, the new trolls are something else…so many are Canadians too. So interesting. Concern trolling how they’ll earn money and predicting the end of the Sussex marriage. They’re probably the exact same ones who get all up in arms anytime people talk about William’s cheating and start chastising other posters about “I hope you’re not wishing for the end of someone’s marriage…that’s sad regardless of what you think of the Cambs” etc etc.

      • VS says:

        @Royalwatcher ——- Love your post!!! you called them for exactly what they do ‘concern trolling’ —– Harry will suffer with a couple of millions in assets…….OK!!! With a wife & supporter like Meghan by his side, he will be more than fine. Just like she was when she had to leave her entire life behind her to marry him……..

  28. Rapunzel says:

    Tin foil tiara theory: The Sussexes know they will win their lawsuit in this coming year, and that will destroy the media smear campaign. They may be willing to return then. Especially if it gets rid of Piers Morgan, who needs to be quarantined by NHS and given a rabies shot, as he is foaming at the mouth with hate.

    Or maybe Meg really is pregnant, and they’re just wanting this break for her pregnancy.

    I would not discount the Sussexes returning to the fold at some point, if they feel they’ll receive better treatment. I think there’s a reason they paid back Frogmore to use it, and why Harry did that joint statement saying Wills didn’t bully him. They are leaving a bridge unburned.

    • Royalwatcher says:

      Interesting! I hope they win MILLIONS in that law suit and take those papers (and Piss Morgan – who is certifiable!) DOWN. Burn it all. AND, I also want to know who – from inside the family *coughWilliamCharlescough* – was conspiring with the papers. I want it all made public!

      It’s sick how two-faced the RRs are. One of them was out there literally crying on TV talking about how lovely Harry is and blah blah blah. And in their next breath, harassing his wife. Vile human beings.

  29. Sof says:

    The part of the statement that says they will “continue to uphold the values of Her Majesty” makes me think that they will not be completely free when it comes to taking projects and making money.
    Also, it says they will no longer use their HRH titles because they aren’t working royals anymore, not because they chose not to.
    I don’t know, I don’t trust the family so it’s hard for me to believe they got everything they wanted.

    • ME says:

      Yeah I don’t see Meghan taking acting roles with “risky seductive bedroom scenes”. I do see her doing an Adidas campaign or something because she seems really into fitness.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      Princess Michael of Kent is not a working royal and she plasters her HRH on the covers of the books that she sells. She definitely uses her HRH for profit. IMO, the line about Meghan and Harry not using their HRH is a bone thrown to a hostile press, just like Camilla isn’t using her Princess of Wales title because it wouldn’t go over well in the press and the court of public opinion.

  30. smee says:

    I bet she’s stoked not to have to wear crazy hats in the near future – I know I would be!

  31. Gm says:

    Who knows what will happen in a year? Cause no one predicted any of this right? Personally I enjoy the ride ( gossip wise, personally I wish everyone happiness) . It took courage to make this step and I am curious how it will play out.

  32. Scorpio ♏️ Rants says:

    My read is that in one year they’ll see if the Bank of Dad is still open to them based on how it all unfolds ….e.g., “consistent with the queens values” as was said

    • ME says:

      I don’t understand. I have read that Harry is worth about $40 million. Does he not have his own bank account and funds? I mean if you really want to be financially independent, then why accept money from your rich father? Meghan herself was reportedly worth $5 million before marrying Harry. I am assuming her money remained untouched since becoming a royal?

      • Scorpio ♏️ Rants says:

        I tend to agree with you. I’m no love-crazed fan of anyone in the BRF including Meghan and Harry and roll my eyes a bit at all of this including the “work toward financial independence “ shtick given the $ numbers you cited, All I can say is it must be really expensive to live that lifestyle ….because all reports are that the Duchy $$ will still come their way while they “work towards financial independence.”🤪🤷‍♀️

      • MsIam says:

        It could be so they do not have to take any money from the foundation. They will probably need more staff and offices so no need for them to draw a salary too. Plus there could be messy legal and tax implications from taking a salary, I don’t know. There are probably stipulations on how long Charles provides support. Plus support doesn’t mean cash it could include paying for security or housing and then H&M pay for all of their other personal expenses. In the end, it’s up to Charles, lots of parents help their kids out.

      • Scorpio ♏️ Rants says:

        Yes it’s Charles’ money and his call. But the fact is that we are talking about a mid to late 30s couple with a combined net worth of $45 million and who is Needing to throw extra financial support at them and how…..well it just screams how absurd the whole concept of monarchy is. Back to why I said I’m not really fond of any of them because……yeah. This.

      • Royalwatcher says:

        The only thing I think they need his money for is if their police protection is no longer paid by the UK. (Which, IMO it totally should because they are targets for having belonged to that family and their safety is continuing to be undermined by the continual media assault on them, IMO.) Or, if they do some charitable work on his behalf, then he should pay their expenses.

        But anyway, I could imagine Charles privately paying for it if the Met determines the Sussexes will no longer receive official protection. I don’t ultimately see that happening because they are still high profile targets but you never know.

    • Part of me reads ‘consistent with the queens values’ as there won’t be any candid, behind the scenes interviews or statements about TRF. I’m sure Daddy’s money comes with a gag clause.
      I am among the group that thinks they will be fine on the financial front with offers from all directions, but I can’t wait to see how it actually unfolds. Would I pay money to hear either of them speak? Probably not ( unless it was the aforementioned tell all). Would I buy a lipstick she loves? Probably. Will they go Clooney or Kardashian? So many questions.

      • ME says:

        LOL could you imagine Harry and Meghan doing a reality show ? Insane. These two will NEVER talk smack about the Royal Family. I believe they want to keep the doors open in case they want to return down the road. You never know.

  33. Guest says:

    Doubt they will be back into the fold. Harry knows what the future holds for him. Eventually the cambridge kids will get older and the media will turn their attention to them (good luck Charlotte and Louis for being their scapegoat now) then what for sussexs? I think harry knows he needs to strike while the iron is hot and his name and Meghan can be a draw. Build up their own lives and get their own money. It’s funny to read this morning that netflix is interested. Lol who knows what will happen with but it’s funny reading the media and right wing crazies meltdown over it.

    • L4frimaire says:

      I hope they start inking deals while the interest is high, and start building toward their goals. Twitter dug up Peter Phillips, Princess Anne’s son doing ads selling milk in China, with a castle backdrop and some type of royal crest on the package. It’s cringe and hilarious, but sure get upset if Harry and Meghan make any money.

  34. anon says:

    Hmmm.

    I’ve never heard of someone quitting… and being put on probation?

    Nonetheless, good for them. I hope they get the peace and quiet they deserve.

    • Chaine says:

      IKR? Employee: “I am giving you my notice, I am leaving this Awful job and moving out of the country to be far away from it and you.” Boss: “OK goodbye and good luck but let’s sit down in a year and see if you are still really qualified to do this job.”

  35. tmbg says:

    That bunch of dusty old bores is like La Cosa Nostra. Nobody ever fully gets away from them!

  36. Emily says:

    Let’s see how hard William and Kate work during the next year. If the past is an indication, the RF will be begging the Sussexs to rejoin the fold.

  37. paddingtonjr says:

    Andrew spends 20 years in the Navy, never being a full-time royal, and later consorts with known pedophiles, no one says boo. Sophie and Edward have careers before becoming senior royals, no one says boo. The heir-to-the-heir and his FFQC get married in a lavish ceremony, run off to Wales and Norfolk for a few years, barely managing 100 engagements/year between the two of them, no one says boo. H&M decide to take a step back from a full-time royal role, with a plan to wean themselves from the public teat, and the BRF (and staff and reporters) lose their collective sh*t and act as if it is Abdication Crisis 2.0.

    It sounds as if H&M just want to take some time for themselves and be a family for a while, being there for their child and earning their own money, before returning to full-time public life as TQ gets older and PC takes on more responsibilities. The caveat of this only lasting a year allows for the BRF to save face should W&K not step up and take over H&M’s official patronages and military appointments (shocking thought I know). It also allows H&M to come back to the fold should things not work out the way they plan.

    • Ms. jazz says:

      Actually, the Queen had to very publicly pay Edward and Sophie to leave their jobs and become full time royals, because it was pulling too much focus from their work with the Royal family, which is one of the reasons I assumed was behind the year-out check-in with the Sussexes.

    • Royalwatcher says:

      Not only that, but didn’t Sophie also get busted for some sort of pay for play access to the queen? (Or something similar?) And no one said boo. She got to retain her…everything and is the “queen’s favorite” married-in.

    • Leslie says:

      “The heir-to-the-heir and his FFQC get married in a lavish ceremony, run off to Wales and Norfolk for a few years, barely managing 100 engagements/year between the two of them, no one says boo.”

      No one says boo? You must be new to the royal watching game. Because people have been calling out the Cambridge’s for *years* for their low numbers and lack of work ethic.

    • PrincessK says:

      Also remember that Sophie was caught making disparaging comments about the Queen, imagine the total uproar if Meghan had done something like that.

  38. me says:

    Well they plan on leading a public life using their duke/duchess aristocracy titles as a brand. Away from UK and royal control. And she is not even an UK citizen. I think it is respectful for UK people that their activity should be on review. Not to mention respectful for Canadian who will pay a lot of money for their security because they have those titles. Otherwise, as “Harry and Meghan” brand probably it would not be a need of any review. And they should pay for their life and security like normal and free people do, if that is what they want to be. But I think they want the cake and eat it too, and in a very attention getting way which really would be the last straw to monarchy.

    • ME says:

      It is telling that Andrew didn’t create a “crisis” for the family but Harry and Meghan wanting to leave did. Tells you a lot about the Royals.

      With regards to Canadians, our tax dollars should not go to this couple in any way/shape/form. They need to pay for their own security as private members of society.

    • Hope says:

      Save your energy for HRH Pedo Andy who was using the palaces for his profit making Pitch at the Palace. And is still continuing on with Pitch. He was fired but is still using his royal perks away from public review or is it okay because he is a citizen?

      There’s no serious reason to go after Harry and Meghan when the BRF’s corruption is right in your face right there in the UK. Didi you know that the royal family charges their security rent for the privilege of guarding them? So when Kate goes to Bucklebury, the Middletons make money from the RPOs being there. Save your energy for reviewing that.

      And please have some sense of personal embarrassment that you think Harry and Meghan could be the last straw for the monarchy when they had to leave the UK to protect themselves and their son from racist harassment.

      But you said it all when you said “royal control.” Yes, of the biracial duchess. Make sure you keep straining to take away any modicum of royalness from biracial Meghan. But know that you fool noone.

    • notasugarhere says:

      LOL. You must have missed the SussexSquad finding a Chinese milk campaign featuring Peter Philips pretending to be a prince. It is not Harry and Meghan the royals need to worry about when it comes to cheapening of the royal ‘brand’.

    • Nic919 says:

      Hey let me know if you want Peter Phillips on review for doing a milk commercial in China that was set in a British castle and where they are basically calling him a prince.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Peter being caught doing something shady again. We never did learn what happened to all that money from the Jubilee picnic fiasco.

      • Zara pitches too. She also takes money from shady oversees billionaires to show up at functions.

      • PrincessK says:

        Don’t forget that very recently the Queen hosted a shooting party on the Sandringham Estate for Peter’s ‘friends’….cough cough. A lot goes on we don’t know about. Harry must be incensed about the double standards.

  39. Erika H says:

    Celebitchy should change the name to royalbitchy because all they’ve been reporting on lately is the royal family. I’m getting bored.

  40. Valiantly Varnished says:

    Lol, yeah right. Im sure Harry and Meghan will come back for huge events but I think the fact that they are re-paying the Frogmore reno costs (which is utter bs) tells me that they plan on eventually being 100% independent. And will no longer need Charles’s money – and the “leash” will be permanently cut. It’s early days. Give H&M a little time. They will do far better on their own than a lot of people realize.

  41. SJR says:

    Well, I am tired of all of it already.
    What a load of crap to have Charles claim he does not have unlimited resources!
    The entire BRF can take a flippin’ trip to Mars for all I care!
    These “royal” tools are going to have to realize that their time has past.
    The only use they have is tourism. Between Charles and William, IMO, neither is qualified to be King.
    Isn’t Liz one of the wealthiest people on planet Earth?

    Harry has a personal wealth in the neighborhood of $30million inherited from his Mother. How much f’ing money does one person need?

    Down with the wealthy! Most citizens are struggling to meet their needs, while these tools are burning thru money like mad men. Disgusting!

    • ME says:

      See that’s what I was wondering. Why do they need an “allowance” from Prince Charles when Harry already has a big fat inheritance from his mother. Plus Meghan was a millionaire before she married Harry. Where is THEIR money? They should already be financially independent. Not like they had bills to pay before leaving the Royal family (other than Frogmore).

      • MsIam says:

        @ME if your family wants to help you out until you get established then whose business is it besides theirs and yours? H&M will need new housing, transportation, legal representation, etc. They aren’t taking the public funds so that should be enough to satisfy anybody.

      • ME says:

        @MsIam

        If they use Canadian tax payer money to pay for their security then I do have a right to say something. We’ll see how that goes. But the fact is if they truly want to be independent financially, they should be able to do that already with the millions they both have. I have the right to my opinion as you have the right to yours.

      • PrincessK says:

        You have no idea about the cost of keeping high profile British Royals safe. The money Harry has will be gone in a matter of years if he has to pay for his own security. That is why he was hoping to get a half in half out deal, so that some of the security costs would be paid from different sources.

    • MsIam says:

      I read an article that said the Duchy of Cornwall that Charles controls is worth over a half-billion dollars. Now I’m sure he doesn’t get that much in cash but the income from that size of an estate has got be substantial. Plus he probably has other sources of income too. So him trying to cry poor mouth is laughable.

      • Jodieg says:

        I believe the Duchy of Cornwall is a trust and he gets the income from it – around £21m per annum

  42. aquarius64 says:

    I have further thought on the HRH usage. I bet the Wallis option was on the table: Harry keeps HRH, Meghan loses hers. Harry balks and agrees to lose his which may have shooknthe queen, remembering what happened in 1936. I bet the public statement about Meghan’s contributions and the intense scrunity was part of the deal. One more negotiated bit: paying the lawyers for the lawsuit and providing tactical information on Toxic Tom to use at trial. (My money says Bad Dad tried to blackmail the royals in exchange for no more interviews.) That would shut down the Markles for good.

    • PrincessK says:

      Well a new development is that Meghan’s new title, Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex casts her as a divorced wife of a duke, which she is not.

  43. Spicecake38 says:

    I haven’t read the other comments so forgive if this is perhaps repetitive and I’m not totally understanding this whole deal as it seems to be that more information will keep coming out..??

    I can’t help but wonder though if part of this deal that we don’t know about yet is that,like they want it to be renegotiated in a year to see if the hard working Sussexs will return because asTQ keeps getting older/when she dies they will need Meghan and Harry to come back and do the actual work.

    This can’t hardly be sitting well with the senior royals *cough*who don’t want to work (Will and Kate)…Like they must be freaking out that they don’t have H and M to cover for their laziness,and work will fall on their shoulders more in the not so distant future,are they going to try to get them to come back and pick up where they left off?

    Maybe I’m really reaching but I think the Sussexs will be missed greatly even if nobody in that family will really acknowledge that right now.

    • notasugarhere says:

      The BRF will miss the Sussexes, but the Sussexes won’t miss the BRF.

    • Lady D says:

      This break gives Kate and William the chance to prove they can be functioning, goof for the economy, leaders of their country. They can perform the same old, same old, when it comes to working, or they can shine. I personally think William will use the year to hound his father into ordering Harry home to work, and Meghan back for the distractions.
      Is William currently delirious with joy at their absence, or is he catatonic with rage at his little brother besting him and will spend his life trying to get even proving he is better?

      • Spicecake38 says:

        Your last sentence…*delerious with joy,catatonic with rage,spending the rest of his last getting even *-excellent points and I think all three are true/will come to pass in the mind of William.

      • Nic919 says:

        They had eight years to shine before Harry married Meghan. If they couldn’t do it then, they sure won’t do it now.

  44. Ellen says:

    I wonder if they’d be leaving the Royal Family if they’d gotten the positive attention from the media that they so obviously crave. They courted the media from day one and it’s now blowing up in their faces. Don’t tell me Harry didn’t prepare Meghan for this life. He saw it happen to many members of the Royal Family. I’m old enough to remember the atrocious bullying of Fergie by the British media (she’s an idiot but that’s another story). Don’t get me wrong – I don’t deny that publications like the Mail are racist scum. However, the hero worshiping of these two is mind boggling. Do we really need “Commonwealth Youth Ambassadors” for christ sake?? It smacks of colonialism and is a relic of a bygone era. When it boils down to it, Meghan is a mediocre actress who had a mindless blog like many other minor celebrities out there. But what does she actually have to offer? Harry is a typical rich, privileged English man with a victim complex and a frankly insulting desire to continue to force his presence on former colonies. I’m far more interested in hearing from and supporting the day to day charity workers like my husband who work extremely hard for next to no money and not those that swan in for a photo op every six months. I’d honestly be happy if all of these attention-seeking leeches faded into the sunset.

    • Pineapple says:

      Ellen … the whole point is Harry and Meg don’t just “swan in for a photo every six months.” You are confusing them with Will and Kate, darling, and they “swan” in every 4 years.

    • GuestWho says:

      Yes, please leave out her other work with the UN, the USO, charity for clean water in Africa (I’m swimming in Nyquil, you look up the name), advocating for women, and things I’ve clearly forgotten for now (see Nyquil comment) that she was involved in years before she met Harry. As a duchess, she conceived and executed projects that made measurable contributions to the charities she became involved with. She doesn’t just swan in.

      How do you prepare someone for an environment where she is going to be constantly harassed by racists and sold out by BOTH of their families. You don’t see that kind of betrayal coming.

      She arrived with a stellar reputation that has been pulverized by lies, half truths, and the people willing to believe them because it confirms their biases.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The water project in Rwanda was with WorldVision Canada

      • GuestWho says:

        Thank you.

      • PrincessK says:

        @GuestWho….very well said. I really hope she will continue with her interest in lack of sanitary materials for poor school girls,

        I was hoping, had she remained in the U.K., that she would take on the role of mentor to school girls in poor areas of east London, which Michelle Obama did so wonderfully. The impact made by Michelle in a very short space of time made me cry. She shone a light on these girls and raised their self esteem. Meghan would have done a wonderful job continuing that role.

    • Jaded says:

      Why do you think H&M left senior royal work and the country? Because they were not being allowed to do what they wanted to do with numerous charities – all the royal fooferall and frippery was getting in the way, not to mention constant racist threats and being thrown under the bus by W&K. They also wanted to distance themselves from Prince Pedo and the Queen’s obvious reluctance to cut Andrew out of all visibility and caution the media to stop harassing Meghan. It was a hideously toxic situation and they did the right thing by stepping out of it.

  45. Guest2.0 says:

    Can any of the British CB folks shed light on a message I just read: “Per Daily Mail, Thomas collaborated on a new documentary for Channel 5 called Thomas Markle: My Story, which is all about his relationship with Meghan and their fallout.” Is this true? How much more piling on is the media going to do?

    • notasugarhere says:

      Any change in their work status isn’t going to change the tabloid attacks against them. What they do have is a global support network, growing every day, calling out the racist UK media.

    • aquarius64 says:

      Yep Bad Dad did. Markle is proving every day he is a tabloid stooge. The Fail is trying this case in the court of public opinion which reeks desperation on its part. You can’t get him on the stand under direct examination and ask these questions under oath? They’re muddying the waters because the Fail wants the case to go away. You bet Meghan’s lawyers watched this interview and may openings to use at trial.

  46. Guest with Cat says:

    I think it was very telling that in recent days the Cambridges were out there trying to emulate the Sussexes, right down to hugging. Which I’ve heard is actually appropriate and charming royal behavior when done by white British ladies. When done by those bare legged black Americans, well then it’s just aggressive and loud and probably an attempt to steal your avocados.

    Oh and that reminds me, clearly they miss Meghan because they are keen to spend more time with people of color now, as well as the disadvantaged. And if they happen to find disadvantaged people of color, that’s counts as two engagements on the court circular! So look for them to spend more time in really bad neighborhoods. Lots of time! More than ever before! They’re quite keen to do so, you know. They admit they’d been terribly remiss.

    I could not help but notice William and Kate’s faces looked more painted into rictus grins than ever. It will be a miracle if they can get through this year without cracking molars.

    All snark aside, I was under the impression that when he was younger, William shared with Harry a desire to continue their mother’s legacy of helping people. I don’t know what’s happened to that aspect of him or if it was just PR and nothing more with him. If he ever did possess any genuine depth, I hope he finds it again…and soon. He’s the one that seems empty and lost. As does his wife.

    Harry and Meghan look fresh and ready to get on with things. They may have a few stumbles here and there, but the potential is vast. They’ve barely scratched the surface of sharing everything they’ve already seen and done. I look forward to seeing what shows up on their social media. I am so glad they made the break. I am sorry it did not work out for them as working royals, but that’s on other people’s failings, not them.

  47. Bluenoser says:

    Of course the BRF wants to review the agreement in one year. It doesn’t take hindsight to realize that leaving the future of the monarchy in the hands of W&K is a recipe for disaster (which would be well deserved because the lot of them need to go). The possibility that M&H would come back is most, if not definitely, unlikely. They don’t need the BRF to be happy and contented. In fact, M&H will be better off without being around such soul-crushing vultures.

    This could probably have all been avoided if they had acted as a united front and truly welcomed and supported Meghan from the beginning. They just thought they could continue doing what they were doing – i.e, nothing – and that Harry would continue to take the racism and misogyny directed at his wife. They didn’t count on the fact that M&H could and would step back from the family.

    M&H will be fine going forward. If they were able to figure out how to deal with that family’s relentless lack of love and support, and with the media’s constant barrage of racism, misogyny and classism, and were able to come through all of that, then they will be able to figure out the rest of their lives in Canada. I hope they are left alone (as much as is possible) to live their lives in peace, contentment and joy.

  48. Liz version 700 says:

    So many creepy people wishing I’ll on this family for wanting to earn their own money and dare to stop an abusive existence. I hope you cope ok when they live wonderful happy lives. How am I sure that will happen? Because people not in the Bubble of Royal life seem to have a much better shot at happiness.

    • MeghanNotMarkle says:

      My coworker is throwing out the “He abandoned his granny!” outrage over this whole thing. I just had to ask her where granny was when Meghan was getting bullied in the press and they as a couple were being thrown under the bus. If anyone was abandoned, it was Harry and Meghan, not HM.

  49. aquarius64 says:

    I have questions about the Sussexes’ finances. They are quoted to be worth 45 million together. We haven’t seen tax returns ( we don’t need to unless they are running for office or under tax audit) . Harry and Meghan may have more in the bank if they have no problem paying back the Frogmore renovations and they have made solid investments to draw income. A trust fund for Archie may already be in place and for future Sussex children. What about Diana’s personal jewelry? Meghan already has Diana’s aquamarine cocktail ring as a wedding present and the butterfly earrings and bracelet. It makes sense with William being called in for the talks – Harry wants to make sure half of Diana’s jewerly goes down the Sussex line so Archie could gift his future spouse or a future Sussex daughter could inherit those pieces. And Meghan was reportedly house hunting in Canada in one of the toniest neighborhoods. I don’t think they are broke.

    CNN is going to town on House Windsor. Here comes the karma bus.

    • MeghanNotMarkle says:

      My guess is that a good portion of Harry’s money was put into investments and he has a portfolio. I doubt his inheritance is just sitting collecting dust. The RF is pretty dumb but I doubt they’re that dumb. I could be wrong, though and need to adjust my tin foil tiara.

      • ME says:

        But he is 35 years old isn’t he? At what age would he be able to tap in to that inheritance? I’m presuming they have been planning this “exit” for a while and he could have had time to speak to his financial advisers. Who knows.

      • notasugarhere says:

        He inherited at 30.

  50. MeghanNotMarkle says:

    I’m honestly not surprised by this. Give them a year to get their footing and then address any issues they’re still having. If nothing changes on the part of the BRF then I foresee that meeting basically going something like this: “We’re enjoying our freedom and since none of this bullshit has been resolved, we’re gonna keep on keeping on.” This is my tin foil tiara talking here but I think there’s panic over losing their best assets so the RF scrambled to try to save face by offering to revisit it in a year. I think a lot of people are underestimating Harry’s desire and ability to make his own way.

    • aquarius64 says:

      And they are underestimating Harry for looking out for his family. The Sussex title: the queen issued LP that the title Duke of Sussex is hereditary ; it’s passed to the firstborn legitimate son. Archie is currently heir to that title. Harry probably locked it that the title is not taken away in the current and future monarchs’ reigns without just cause (criminal ) and not used if the heir chooses when he is of age.

  51. marni112 says:

    If MM and PH aren’t going to be senior working Royals then there are consequences such as the roles where they represented a groups or were a patron ( such a the National Theatre Group), they have to relinquish .This is because in those roles they are understood to be representing the Queen . All in all the deal seems ok and it is logical to review it in year , to air any grievances and make any adjustments .Family law separation agreements often have review clauses because over time things change such as child support that need adjustment and any good agreement set out the mechanics of how this happens .It may be that in a year , Charles wants to review the money or their roles .I did think it was very good that they are repaying the 2.4 million as the British taxpayers were angry about that .Just hope the Canadians aren’t stuck with security costs.

    • notasugarhere says:

      They didn’t need to repay that. It was Crown Estate money used to do required updates on CE property. Don’t believe what the Fail tells you.

      • JulieCarr says:

        If they hadn’t been living there that Crown Estate money would have been spent on maintenance for much more important buildings.

      • Hope says:

        @JulieCarr. Like building another “privacy fence” or the like for the Cambridges or repairing whichever set of gates Andrew had chosen to slam through.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The Crown Estate is required to do upkeep on all of the buildings in their care. Frogmore Cottage was already on the list and scheduled for a gut and complete electrical, plumbing, etc. re-do. That’s why FC could be done faster than the Gloucester apartment at KP, and partly of why Harry and Meghan chose it.

  52. kerwood says:

    I think the review in a year clause is the royal family HOPING that Harry and Meghan will ‘cool off’ and return to the family that so desperately needs them. They ALL know that Normal Bill and Keen Katie are incapable of stepping up. The royal family is probably hoping the legal issues will be resolved and the tabloids will have backed off.

    I have a feeling an NDA was involved, probably with cash involved to keep the Sussexes quiet.

    Its amusing because the Queen and Charles dont realize that NO ONE would return to the stink of the British royal family once they’ve had a chance to breathe clean air.

  53. aquarius64 says:

    Tune into CNN or go on Sussex Royal. Harry made a mic drop speech. Meghan is still his love (‘choke on that divorce wishers). The UK is still his home. Family has his support (ok sure) but some things he can’t say (NDA to tell calls on family treachery).

  54. celialarson12 says:

    Impression from the Sentebale speech: The Sussexes wanted to continue their royal duties without the Sovereign grant i.e – no Royal Rota for them but was not possible so they chose to walk away. Iam sure they had been told to drop the lawsuits.

    IMO the BRF sent the British media ( plus paid social media trolls, commentaters, bots ) on Meghan , Harry by association. They expected to eventually drive her off. I am sure the media thought they would never be sued, then it happened. Since then there has been pressure for the Sussexes to drop the lawsuits while at the same time expecting them to take the abuse. The BRF never saw Harry walking away.

    • aquarius64 says:

      Harry took a swipe at the media in his speech. No reports of the suit being dropped and the queen acknowledged the scrunity (too little too late IMO). If anything a deal may have been struck to cover the lawsuit and help. Markle is going to run his mouth especially he is doing a documentary – with a rival news organization. I bet the Fail is not happy that its useful idiot is giving exclusives to the competition, especially being named its star witness in the defense case. The Fail is going to take him down.

    • Byron says:

      You have no idea how this stuff works do you . But why would you

  55. TheOriginalMia says:

    Netflix CEO has stated they’d love to talk to Harry & Meghan about a production deal. The Obamas got $60M for theirs. Harry & Meghan will be fine emotionally and financially if that Sentabale speech is any indication.

    • morrigan01 says:

      Yep. Seriously, back last year when I was predicting they would leave, I knew they’d be offered a number of production deals, and would probably even start up their own production company one day.

      Production deals are like candy these days, they practically hand them out now. And Harry is totally a behind the scene production-person type.

    • aquarius64 says:

      So much for being in penury. The Sussexes are going to be fine. Of course they would have to stay in the confines of the BP deal, but if they lock down a deal tolerable to all Harry and Meghan could get an advance to pay off Frogmore renos and pay for a Canadian mansion. Good fortune will smile on the Sussexes.

    • Coffee says:

      Yes, because Harry and Meghan are at the level of the Obamas and Clintons. No. They. Are. Not.

      Stop with the comparisons.

      • Kristin says:

        They are. Not in the political realm. But in the small way that they are carving out for themselves. They are just as well known and inspire interest in the same way. They will make these huge deals and be fine. Actually, not only will they make similar deals, but they will parlay their earnings into charitable endeavors.

      • Pineapple says:

        Coffee … you might not like it but 300 comments on this post and thousands of others on posts on two Continents say otherwise. XO

      • VS says:

        Yes, they are not at the same level as the Obamas but they will be more than fine financially; they already are……….You keep writing the same thing over and over again as far as finances are concerned; they are not going to be stealing from you, you know!!!!

        The interest in H&M is through the roof; Only Diana in the RF had ever attracted that type of interest. So I started following the RF because I saw the clear abuse Meghan had to deal with; now everything she does I will support……..the woman is a doer; clearly some prefer mediocrity; to each their own I guess

  56. Pity10 says:

    The revisit is intriguing, not sure what I think about it. I also wonder who wanted this in? I mean it’s not as if they couldn’t do this any way if something changed. I have to say this is gossip that keeps on going. I do hope the complete racist crap goes away, but the other even with a more moderate POV is juicy.

  57. Willz (not THAT one) says:

    I made the mistake of reading some of the Instagram comments on Harry’s Sentebale speech tonite. I cannot wrap my head around the nastimess. Humans can be loathsome.

    As someone pointed out about me on another post, my sentiments are definitely not British. Sorry, not sorry. But as a man who has a wife and children who mean everything to me, and for whom I would do anything for, and also as a man who does not believe for a second God gives two shits who is sitting on the throne, I fully applaud and support Harry’s decision to put his wife and son first and foremost before the desires of the rest of the royal family. It is exactly what he ought to have done.

    The fact that he is getting more shit about this than Andrew will ever get for his heinous crimes disgusts more than I can express.

    • Royalwatcher says:

      + a million, Willz. I saw a brief article from a researcher talking about how racist and misogynistic the (overwhelming) majority of comments are on anything relating to Meghan. It was so bad (the comments so gross) that the researchers themselves became upset doing the research (and this is what they do, study this type of information). It’s almost more upsetting for me though, for some people to come out and try to deny Meghan has gotten it worse than other royals or her criticism isn’t rooted in racism, etc. (e.g that stupid rightwing British actor from the other day). It’s like the racism is horrible and sickening on its own…but for people to then deny it or pretend she did something to bring it on (by wearing colored nail polish or holding her pregnant belly) adds an additional level of abuse, IMO.

    • Willz (not THAT one) says:

      Damn that was a spelling and grammar fail on my part! 🤣 I hate using my phone to type.

    • Amen. Small people with very nasty personalities. And Lawrence Fox (the British actor) is one nasty piece of “non-woke.”

    • Thea says:

      I made the same mistake. It’s so disheartening and disturbing how racist and out there those comments are.

  58. Lilly (with the double-L) says:

    I loved Harry’s speech tonight. They really did partner up for love and to serve. The RF just proved themselves to not be the place to accomplish their goals. He is a great communicator and devoted to his causes and his wife and child.

    • NLopez says:

      I agree Lilly. His speech yesterday at Sentabale was very good

    • VS says:

      I am surprised someone hasn’t said Meghan wrote it!!!!……it will come soon enough; for me all this just how incompetent most of the young royals really were before Meghan came onto the scene; they couldn’t even write their own speech………LOL

      What a great speech by Harry; I listen to it on SR IG page; just amazing!

  59. RoyalBlue says:

    Will and Kate’s pull with the commonwealth is not as strong as Harry and Meghan’s. The RF were hoping to use Meghan as a charm factor with the many African and caribbean members. But now the #royalfamilysowhite and have showed their racist cards it’s left to be seen where this will go. I am secretly hoping for a boycott of the summit tomorrow but I know that is wishful thinking.

    As to the revisit next year, I see that as a good thing. It is a gesture in part to show the leaving is on friendly terms and therefore leave that door open , and part for both sides to assess the financial and social impact of the unprecedented decision.

    • kerwood says:

      @Royal Blue, Agreed. In the next few months, Normal Bill and Kate are going to be up to their eyeballs in people of colour, hugging and grinning. It’s not going to work because people of colour aren’t stupid. They’re going to see this for what it is. The royal family embraced a rapist while they left the only member of the family who is a person of colour to fend for themselves.

      How is Normal Bill going to travel to Africa and pretend to be friendly when he’s gone on record saying that he thought Africans should stop having children? And Kate can wear all the national costumes she wants, but 8 years of inactivity is proof that she’s there for the tiaras, not the work.

      Charles is going to have a very hard job keeping commonwealth together after his mother’s death thanks to what’s happened in the past few years.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        @kerwood I am rolling my eyes at the obvious PR to come of the imagery of the Cambridges hugging brown children. The foreign offices are likely furiously trying to negotiate visits to repair the Cambridges image, but considering countries like South Africa and Morocco previously requested the Sussexes, if the Cambridges do get invited it might be begrudgingly so.

        Kate is here for the pageantry and playing dress up, and her ego requires her to be the queen Bee. It’s going to burn bad when Sussexroyal IG users eventually surpass KR.

  60. Tashiro says:

    Revisiting things in a year is an excellent idea. I think all sides want to leave the door open. Despite all the he said she said Charles (and Queen Bess) loves his son and I think he cares for Megan as well. He doesn’t want to cut his son out of his life. Obviously some of this public concern would’ve been great a year or two ago. These comments suggesting H is some kind of boob who is being manipulated by M is ridiculous. What I see is a team two ppl who are of one mind in this and a man who has stepped up to the plate.

  61. RoyalBlue says:

    To address the money comments. My take is none of the royals use their own money for their personal expenditure because they can claim it all as work expenditure. Harry’s money is for the most part tied up in illiquid assets such as trusts and perhaps private equity investments, jewelry and maybe artwork. In today’s world the rich get richer. People love to quote £45 mn, but Whatever money he was left by his mother and great grandmother would have more than doubled by now. Trust me on that. Second, for people asking why does he accept funding from his father. You have to think about it as he is accepting funding from a firm to manage his expenses. If you view it as a firm and not a family it will make more sense. He is bound to accept it because this family has raised all these children to be unemployable! The whole lot of them who all went to posh schools and none are doctors, lawyers, architects, engineers, tradesmen or teachers!! That’s because that’s something blue collar workers do, not the blue bloods. So many years of inbreeding results in William being good for nothing, Zara and Peter having to peddle their services, eugenie and Bea using contacts to get high positions for jobs they barely attend, Andrew conducting shady financial ventures and he still needs mummy’s money, so he has to keep kissing up to her. the Kents and Gloucesters are still reliving the glory days all while living in a fancy council house. So many spongers all getting paid ultimately by whoever controls the purse strings. This whole situation should be revisited and the Sussexes leaving will cause that to come into the spotlight.

    • Tashiro says:

      These are all excellent points. Never viewed things in this way.

    • VS says:

      @RoyalBlue —– I know; a few posts ago, I called out someone who thought Meghan’s money was just sitting in a bank account LOL………I will stop there

  62. Sofia says:

    So much concern trolling

    Some people need to go back to the DM and Tumblr. I liked this site because it was one of the few places on the internet that didn’t eat the shit out of the Cambridges asses and doesn’t want the Sussexes head on a stick

    But seems like more trolls are infesting this site

    • kerwood says:

      @Sofia, yeah they’re here. Celebitchy seems to have become a target because of it’s support of the Duchess of Sussex. But don’t worry. The haters and the bots won’t win.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kaiser has given us a tool for that. When you see a troll posting, simply respond to the post with the word ‘troll’ as your reply and that’s it. It enables Kaiser to search for those posts and delete quickly. It is more difficult to delete the troll posts once people write long responses to them.

  63. aria says:

    Ok, i saw an interesting peice on good morning braitain where the episode of peirs morgan disccsuing on tom markle sr appearing on court. In that one of the guy in the middle said something very interesting that why meghan and harry is very angry with royal family that goes beyong something that public doesnt know and he also said he cant talk about that particular thing because of current lawsuit. My thoughts on what the guy meant is that meghan and harry found out the leaker in the palace wheremight in high position and when the tides are tight around the dailymail and sun , i think those guys will rat them out in public. IF you guys watch that and come back and give your thoughts on that.

    For press they are doing the old stories of harry and meghan , i think the tides will turn back on middletons and cambridges very soon . For the people who are hoping for harry to divorce meghan , be careful what you wish for others. Also a little bird told me to watch out for cambridges in summer (april/ may or june / july/august). Prince andrew is going be in spotlight again for virgina case during septmber month.

  64. Loca says:

    Neither wanted to be in the royal family anymore which is fine however several changes were coming. You can’t be half in and half out on programs. The Royal family is what it is. Let’s see what they make of their decisions and if living outside of the RF brings them the happiness they each desire.