Prince Harry ‘suffers a lot from people judging him,’ says Nacho Figueras

Prince Harry and Meghan Duchess of Sussex visit to Sussex

You know Prince Harry sometimes uses his polo buddy Nacho Figueras to tell his side (Harry’s side) of things, right? The first few times Nacho came out and spoke about Harry and Meghan, I waited to see if there would be repercussions, whether Harry and Meghan cut Nacho out for speaking about them. The fact that Nacho is still part of Harry’s circle means that Nacho is spreading the good word from Team Sussex. So, keep that in mind when you hear what Nacho has to say these days:

Prince Harry‘s close friend Nacho Figueras says he has “suffered a lot” amid the royal crisis — and he’s just trying to protect his wife Meghan and their son Archie by quitting royal life. The dashing Argentinian polo-player told a new ABC special that he spoke to Prince Harry just a few days ago and that his friend is only trying to live a “normal” life.

“He has suffered a lot for all the things that have happened to him, he suffers a lot from people judging him,” he said. Figueras regularly plays polo with Harry and was among the first to meet Archie, adding: “He’s being a father … a guy who is trying to protect his cub and his lioness from whatever it takes. He has become an incredible man, a man that his mother would be proud of.”

Figueras speaks out on ABC’s primetime special, “Royal Divide: Harry, Meghan, and The Crown,” which airs Wednesday night. He admitted that Harry will face difficulties as he remains sixth in line to the British throne: “He wants to live a normal life, as normal as his life is going to be, right? Because when you have 1,000 paparazzi outside your house in Canada waiting to get one picture of your son, that’s not very, very normal.”

[From Page Six]

I think Harry did suffer… in a lot of different ways. I think being with Meghan and loving her and wanting to protect her from racism and harassment has all been an eye-opening experience for Harry. He now sees the kind of toxicity in his own family and in the British establishment. And yes, I think Harry was just flat-out trying to do what was best for Meghan and Archie.

Speaking of mental health and taking care of yourself, Meghan and Harry did a special Instagram Story about the Bell Let’s Talk campaign:

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are supporting a cause close to their hearts in their new home. On Wednesday, the couple dedicated their Instagram story to Bell Let’s Talk, a mental health initiative in Canada. For every applicable text, call, tweet, social media video view and use of Bell’s Facebook frame or Snapchat filter, the company donates 5 cents towards mental well-being. Bell has donated over $100 million since launching the initiative in September 2010, according to their website.

“We are so happy to be supporting Bell’s mental health campaign,” Meghan and Harry wrote following a collage of photos featuring people encouraging kindness. “Each time you watch bell_letstalk official video on Instagram, Bell will donate 5 cents towards Canadian mental health initiatives. So please share, please talk and be part of the solution.” They completed the note with a Canadian flag.

[From People]

People Mag goes on to say that this is evidence that they’re putting down roots in Canada, like they didn’t already full-on MOVE to Canada, you know? As soon as Meghan touched down in Canada last November, she was like “f–k England, I’m only going back to tell those people to kiss my biracial ass.” And that’s just what she did. Meghan’s home. But is Harry? We’ll see. I suspect he loves Canada too.

Harry Meghan Sentebale polo

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  1. Polyanna says:

    I had many years where I had crippling anxiety over other people’s judgements of me. Therapy helped me understand that being raised by a mother with borderline personality disorder made me hyper-sensitive to judgement and always feeling judged. I’ve gotten much better and much more peace with therapy.

    The royal family is like an institution with a personality disorder! They are always right, if you go against them in any way you are not only wrong but have wronged them, they will gaslight the shit out of you, they do everything better than everyone else because they are so special, and you need to TELL them how special they are and blow it up their asses in order to avoid heartless mistreatment. They will reject you if you step out of their lines and blame you for the mistreatment you are receiving, and there is a ton of “us against them” mentality going on. Yup, personality disorder.

    I feel for him. He’s going to need therapy.

    • Anance says:

      I’m so sorry. I experience a similar situation, with constant criticism.

      Be happy, healthy and strong.

    • Eleonor says:

      The royal family ruined Margaret’s life, and then Charles, and they rather protect Pedo Andrew than learn from their mistakes.

      • Mich says:

        It also ruined Philip’s. Like him or hate him, he was a brilliant man who got turned into a prop.

      • Elizabeth says:

        Agreed, Mich. If he hadn’t married Elizabeth, he would probably have been First Sea Lord.

      • Algernon says:

        Is…First Sea Lord a real thing?

      • Tessa says:

        Charles life was not “ruined” He got the heirs he wanted and then got to divorce the wife and marry the mistress who was involved with him during marriage to first wife. Diana is dead and Charles’ and Camilla’s sympathizers like Penny Junor are still saying ghastly things about Diana. Charles decided of his own volition not to pursue Camilla Shand as wife material, he even said this to his biographer–he was not ready to get married. But later she became his married mistress. Diana’s life was wrecked by this man, who married her just to get heirs, she was a teen when he courted her!

      • Tessa says:

        Margaret could have married Townsend. She did not want to give up the perks and privileges. She had the audacity to want Townsend never to remarry so they could be “faithful” to each other. Once he got engaged, she pursued Armstrong Jones and made a disastrous marriage with him.

    • pineapple says:

      Polyanna … in all honesty I think many, many people would benefit from therapy. It just helps you to navigate life more confidently. And, yes, Harry would be a great candidate. We are all responsible for our own lives, nothing more. Harry is entitled to do what he thinks is right and fair. His family horridly let him down. The media turned horrid, once Meghan began to really shine. His family, instead of supporting him, CHOSE to turn on him and his new wife. That is not the behaviour of humans you should be spending loads of time with.

    • Jaded says:

      @Polyanna – that sounds just like a page out of my book. I too was raised by a BPD mother, and had a BPD sister, and growing up was hellish sometimes. Therapy certainly helped. Your analogy is spot on and M&H did the right thing by ripping the bandage off quickly and decamping to the peace and beauty of Vancouver Island where they can raise their baby in relative tranquility. I’m sure Harry is going through some pangs of adjustment – partly because both his family and the public turned so WILL-fully against him and his amazing wife, and partly because he’s never lived a private life. But they’ll bounce back stronger than ever.

      • Tessa says:

        I don’t know how Harry stood it having to make nice with a woman who loathed his mother and helped break up the marriage. I don’t know how Harry stands people like Junor tearing apart his mother.

      • McMom says:

        Jaded and Pollyanna – can you write a bit more about your experience growing up with BPD family? I think a person I’m close to had a mother with BPD and I’m trying to understand the effects,

    • Polyanna says:

      MCmom, if you happen to come back to read this, the effects are pretty profound unfortunately. I have anxiety which, through therapy, is well handled and I have a good quality of life now. But my late teenage and early adult years were absolutely run by my anxiety disorder.
      One of my siblings has depression, another has a form of obsessive compulsive disorder that I don’t fully understand but I do my best to be there for her and just support her.

      There are a lot of very good, and concise articles online. If you even just google “effects of a borderline mother”, you will find a lot of good resources that explain more broadly and better than I can.

      The best way to support someone with a borderline mother, in my opinion, is to realize that she probably seems/seemed like a normal mother to the outside world but was an absolute monster in private. It’s so hard when friends try to talk to me as if my mom is a rational, loving mother with whom I’m simply having a little fight. They have no idea. And it can make me feel like I’m going crazy. She is not rational, she is brutal. My siblings and I will always disappoint her, to her we will always be selfish manipulative ingrates. Yet she expects us to be close and adore her, pay her endless attention, and tell her how wonderful she is at all times. It’s torturous. Support from friends who understand is everything.

  2. Lala11_7 says:

    Here’s what I think…I think that Harry was used to the putrid poison that is his family…so he had built an immunity to it…when he met Meghan who is a sensitive, kind, generous, intelligent and vocal human being whom he immediately connected with…Meghan changed the atmosphere in his life…and that change TRULY opened his eyes…and he had to acknowledge a lot of the stuff he let slip by…just to maintain the putrid power infrastructure…which ultimately affected him negatively emotionally…

    Meghan brings out the best in him…and I know…from personal experience…when you’re lucky enough to meet someone like that…you will protect and cherish that….By ANY means necessary….

    • Erinn says:

      And I think also there’s a certain feeling of “permission” to feel some way about the treatment once he met Meghan. That family is so f-ing repressed, that I’m sure it was a big change to have someone in his life who probably deals with emotions in a healthy way rather than stuffing everything down deep inside.

    • Pineapple says:

      Oh LA LA11_7, that was beautifully worded. XO

    • Valiantly Varnished says:

      Yup. It’s the analogy of the frog in the pot of boiling water who doesnt realize how hot the water is because it’s all they know. Meghan showed up as an outsider and was like “this s*it is cray!” And it made Harry realize it too. As well as seeing her be abused and bullied.

    • kerwood says:

      @Lala11_7, very well said. Harry found what he was searching for. He had loved women before but none of them loved him enough to brave life in the royal family. It’s hard to blame them but it must have still hurt. Meghan WAS willing to not only deal with life in the royal family, but to create the kind of future that Harry had probably always dreamed of. She didn’t need the tiaras; she was a working actress on a successful TV, she could buy her own. She loved him. Of course Harry is going to do whatever it takes to keep that love and his lovely little family safe and thriving.

    • Well said layla11_7and Pollyanna —. Harry had already started down the therapeutic path when he and Meghan met but I think Meghan gave him the added validation in himself to really bloom. There have been several special people over the course of my life (some short term, some long term) who have had a pivotal and long lasting positive impact in my choices and growth. As Buddha said, “When the pupil is ready, the teacher will appear”. I have found that my Teachers have come in all forms, from all walks of life.

    • Xo says:

      Idk. . . I’m afraid H may be idealizing M in unhealthy ways. Not sure he is seeing clearly, myself.

      • Patrizio says:

        Agree. I think the way he is isloating himself is telling.

      • GuestWho says:

        Xo: What the actual….? He’s in love with a woman who holds the same values he does (service to others); a woman who had a stellar reputation before the viscious brits got a hold of it; a woman who was willing to uproot her entire life for him; the mother of his child. What is it that you are in a position to see that Meghan’s husband isn’t?

        @ Patrizio – How do you know he is isolating himself? Has he not returned your calls?

      • Very funny GuestWho. Harry’s not taking calls. 👏🏼👏🏼 Being out of the public eye isn’t isolating themselves. I’m sure they are both hard at it redefining how their Foundation will work (now that the exit deal has been worked out) and how they will roll out their working lives. I’m sure they are involved with friends and some 🤔 family. And I for one still think Meghan might be pregnant. Not making a public appearance in the last 10 days or so is not isolating themselves. It is simply living their lives privately which they are entitled to do.

      • GuestWho says:

        @JA I really, truly wish that when they are pregnant again, she just shows up round and healthy and beautiful and doesn’t even mention it. No announcements. Nothing.

    • Jamie says:

      I think they did that for each other.
      My guess is that they each saw the toxicity in each other’s families. It would explain why Thomas got cut off when they got married. Harry saw how much Meghan tried to mollify her narcissistic father only to see that it was never enough for him. He gave her the strength to cut that noose and she did the same for him in return.

  3. BayTampaBay says:

    I cannot see Harry being happy spending the rest of his life in Canada but I could be wrong.

    • SomeChick says:

      Porquoi pas?

      It’s not like he’ll be cooped up in a farmhouse or a condo somewhere. They’re still going to travel the world and do all sorts of things. Invictus is still a thing. Sentebale.

      I actually think we’ll see more of them than ever before! Time will tell.

      • Rapunzel says:

        Somechick- of course, Harry and Meg will travel. But you’re discounting how tough it can be to uproot like this.

      • Lala11_7 says:

        @Rapunzel…it’s not hard to leave your roots….If you never wanted to be part of the tree in the first place….

      • Rapunzel says:

        Lala- by roots I don’t just mean family, which Harry might be fine leaving. There’s a lot of good things in England that Harry may miss. Likely, it’s worth it to him, but let’s not discount how big a change it is.

      • Mich says:

        @Rapunzel – have you ever uprooted like this? I have and without anything even remotely like the resources and support that Harry and Meghan have available. Best decision I ever made.

      • Rapunzel says:

        Mich- no I’ve never done this, but know many who have. And I’m not saying it’s a bad decision. It probably is a great one for them. I’m just trying to remind people that moving thousands of miles away isn’t always easy. Let’s not be cavalier about what a huge decision this must have been. And what a huge difference it will make to their lives.

      • BabsORIG says:

        I’m right there with you @Mich, and millions of immigrants that uproot, migrate and never regret their decisions.

      • Erinn says:

        I mean, I’m sure he IS aware of the difficulties of uprooting your life… considering he watched his wife just go through that.

      • EMF999 says:

        @mich I’m with you. I uprooted twice. Great decisions and the first time I did it by myself without any support whatsoever and with the added burden of constant guilt-trips from my family. I’d do it all again in a heartbeat.

      • pottymouth pup says:

        @Rapunzel – I have experience uprooting with very limited resources, doing it alone (just me & the cat) and not knowing anyone where I moved. As frightening as it was, it was also extremely liberating because I was leaving a toxic environment and I didn’t regret the move one bit. I moved back to the Philly area (suburbs on the other side of the city than where I grew up) and that was (and still is many years later) harder because I’ll always feeling like I’m dodging some bullets living in this area. My guess is that uprooting with a wife (who does have friends locally) and having the immense resources Harry & Megan have, is more liberating for Harry considering what he’s walking away from

      • Cate says:

        I’ve done it and honestly, it can be very freeing. Uprooting and moving across the country was what actually allowed me to see how toxic my immediate family was and to start living according to my own wishes and values. I still remember what a huge relief I felt the first year I did not spend Thanksgiving with my parents. It was so pleasant and relaxing!

        Making friends does take work, and I am sure in their position they will have to be wary of “friends” who are in it for personal gain, but I think Harry has it in him to be just fine.

      • yinyang says:

        Canada is made up of mainly immigrants, people who left behind everything to come here and start a new life, and when they’re children are grown and gone…they can go bak to their mother country, but they never go back, they stay. Harry is going to do fine, he speaks the language and he is polite and freindly just like Canadians so he’s already ahead of the game. I think this is the best decision he’s ever made. And it makes me happy Archie will be calling it home.

    • Rapunzel says:

      ITA, Bay. Harry has spent too long living in the UK. I’m sure, unless he’s totally cut everyone else out but Meg and her people (and I doubt that), he’ll eventually get homesick. He’s lived too long in one place.

      I also know this won’t be a popular opinion, but I worry about a couple things re: Harry and Meg. One, I worry that making so many changes at once to his life to be with Meg might eventually breed resentment on Harry’s part. I’ve personally seen this happen in my life. I think it’s unlikely, but a possibility that I pray their relationship is strong enough to avoid.

      Second, I really worry that the BRF says this issue will be revisited in a year. This concerns me, as I think maybe the RF still has a hold on Harry in some way and that they might eventually snap H&M back up in their web.

      I just want a good life for these two, but I’m not sure Sussexit was the answer. Yet. Only time will tell.

      • GuestWho says:

        Maybe her giving up her life first and making so many changes for him only to have her reputation shredded will temper his tendency to resent her for his making similar changes for their relationship.

        The one-year revisiting is a little troubling, but maybe that’s Charles hoping he’ll have more control over the RF by then so that he can control the leaking more. I don’t think that will work, but maybe (hopefully) it’s not as sinister as it seems.

        What other response would have helped H&M besides leaving? They were being torn apart constantly by the press at the behest of his family, and then they started going after their baby. I really don’t think staying was an option.

      • Ainsley7 says:

        The RF’s hold on Harry is that he is has been defining himself by his duty to the Queen and his country for most of his life. He’s not just walking away from a toxic family. He’s walking away from a large part of how he identified himself. It might be the healthiest choice right now, but being able to revisit it puts a lot less pressure on him to figure it all out right away. In the end, knowing they can come back, may be what allows him to move on in a healthy way without developing any resentment toward Meghan. Contrary to what most want to believe, Harry has made it clear that he wanted to continue to be a part time working Royal, but that it couldn’t be worked out due to rules the Royals have agreed to with the government. He’s always felt strongly about that duty and part of the reason he became a full time Royal earlier than originally planned. He’s probably going to feel a lot of different ways about it all overtime and it’s going to take some adjustment. It makes sense to me that he would want a bit of a safety net just incase. Making a clean break would probably have felt better in the moment, but long term could have put a lot of unnecessary pressure on things.

      • Emmitt says:

        I think it’s interesting everyone cries over Harry having to give it all up and leave it all behind and how hard that will be for Harry..he will get homesick and resent Meghan for making him give it all up.

        What about Meghan? She gave up HER life to be with him, gave up her job, her autonomy, her country, etc for him. But no one cried about how hard it would be for her, no one cried about how homesick she would get and no one cried that Meghan would start to resent Harry for making her give it all up.

        Meghan didn’t make Harry do anything. Harry is the one who chose to marry a non-white foreigner who is totally unsuited* to the British Royal Family. If Harry had really wanted to stay and keep it all, he would’ve left Meghan and Archie in Canada as his family wanted him to and stayed in the UK. He would’ve started fresh with a bland blonde Toff and commenced killing his soul.

        Both of them have sacrificed for the other and both have been attacked by her family, his family, the press and an entire country for the crime of marrying each other and outshining the dullards in his family.

        Harry will get homesick for the UK but not like he can’t go back and it’s not like his friends have been banned from interacting with him. He’ll be fine. Meghan will be fine.

        *It is clear the only way to be suitable in the BRF is to become a dullard and kill your soul so other people can shine. Meghan is not a dullard & she wasn’t going to kill her soul so the Cambridges could shine and this is why she is totally unsuitable to be a member of the British Royal Family. If you are not willing to become as exciting as a bowl of congealed oatmeal, you will be spiritually killed by that family.

      • BabsORIG says:

        Thank you do very much @Emitt for yr comment/post, nothing more to add, you said it all. Honestly some of these Harry will resent Meghan blah blah blah give me tooth aches. Meghan was not the first to give everything, even her personal livelihood, for love and she won’t be the last. Harry isn’t the first and he won’t be the last. Nuff said.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        Well said @Emmitt!

      • Rapunzel says:

        Emmit- I feel you on Meg, and I’ve actually worried about her resenting Harry for all she gave up for him. I only left her out cause this post is on Harry.

        A couple additional points:

        1. I never said any of my speculation is likely to happen. Just that these are pitfalls they’ll need to avoid. I love H&M, and suspect that they talked long and hard about this and I really think they’ll be not only fine, but better off.

        2. Harry and Megan are not your typical normal immigrants. People need to stop acting like this was some free choice. It may have been their choice but it wasn’t free. Harry and Meg were forced into this decision. This was their last resort option that Harry even said they were sad they had to come to. This is clearly not what they originally wanted for their life together, and they’re doing this cause they have to. Not because they want to.
        And even if they are better off it’s still has to be very painful. And the fact that it came to this must make things tough. Sure, they’ll be alright, but folks need to stop minimizing this. This was a terrible choice they were forced to make, and that’s going to color things for their new life

        Also, lol at those saying they don’t care about titles. Just lol. They may be willing to give up titles, but if you think Harry ain’t burned about having to do that, you are seriously underestimating royal privilege.

      • morrigan01 says:

        Wonderfully said @Emmitt!

      • BabsORIG says:

        Hasn’t Harry stated, unequivocally, that he wanted to walk away from it all, titles and all, but was convinced by his grandmother and father to stay? Why act like this is the first time he ever considered walking away from “the perks, titles and all privilege”? It seems to me that Harry cares zero about the titles, other than the fact that his position puts him at a level where he can work and influence change with his causes. The reason Harry joined the army was because “in the army, I’m just plain Harry, no titles no nothing. I’m a member of a group of blokes that don’t care about my place in the line of succession, they treat me as a normal regular person and I like that”. Harry don’t care about the titles, certainly not in the sense you saying @Rapunzel.

    • Mich says:

      Counterpoint: He will be happier than he has ever been. For the first time in his life, he will be allowed to be who he really is and will find joy and fulfillment previously unavailable. And he will get all of that while also knowing the wife he adores and the child he would die for are happy and safe.

    • kerwood says:

      @BayTampaBay, we Canadians get by and manage to squeeze a few drops of happiness out of our barren, empty lives.

      • Maria says:

        “Barren, empty lives”. LOL!

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Haha! I have only been to Canada once but I distinctly remember it wasn’t on the moon or anything. It had airports, cars and such in case travel was needed. I have only been to the cities around Niagara Falls area but I thought it was beautiful.

      • deezee says:

        No, no it isn’t barren. I have my sled dogs to cozy up to at night while that arctic July air flows over my igloo.

      • Mika says:

        I was just looking over the barren wastelands of downtown Toronto, where every language in the world is spoken, home from my simple, peasant job as a TV writer, and after eating at one of the 7, 000 restaurants within 5km of my house, I shivered in the homemade alpaca wool sweater my landlord brought me from her Mum’s home in Peru me and I thought… how can anyone live in this terrible place?

    • jules says:

      I agree. It is a massive adjustment to move and adopt another culture and country. Even if you are leaving something you don’t like, it is still unconsciously your comfort zone. I think people are glossy things over that this is a simple and easy move and he will be happy.

    • February Pisces says:

      The thing with Harry’s life is that he’s never in one place for long anyway. Most regular plebs who move abroad probably can only afford one long haul return flight a year. He and Meghan are always traveling and can afford to fly to the UK as many times as they want, although I doubt Meghan would want to go back anytime soon. I think when you have a flexible work schedule and plenty of money to spend on travel, it’s not as big a deal. Plus his friends seem to be loaded so they can always visit him. I think the greatest tie to your home town is family, and he clearly doesn’t have one there anymore worth visiting.

  4. Em says:

    I think Harry never really saw another option for himself until he met Meg. He was trying to find a role for himself, but the RF was all he knew and I think he had made a kind of peace with it.
    Then he saw how they treated his wife and son, and he saw the kind of life he could have in Canada, and suddenly there was another way. I’d run too.

    • Cate says:

      Yup. I also come from a toxic family (not as bad as what the BRF seems to be, but…toxic). I also really defined myself as being part of this family and was trying to resign myself to a role within that family because I couldn’t really see an alternative. Then I met my husband and it was like oh, THIS is finally something I really want FOR MYSELF. And my father was an absolute shit to my husband, constantly engaging in power plays and trying to exert control. It took me a while to really see just how insidious and damaging my father’s behavior was, but once I saw it, that was it. I saw how much he was harming my marriage and how much happier we would be if he was just not so much in the picture and that was it.

    • yinyang says:

      I think when his mother died, his sense of home died too. Charles turned to Camilla and William turned to drinking and partying with Kate. I think Meghan brought it back to him.

  5. aquarius64 says:

    This is a great initiative and something substanstial. It makes Kate’s survey look like a joke.

    Fox did its special on Harry and Meghan last night and Piers Morgan was on it. He trashed Meghan of course. I advise hard pass on that show.

    The Evening Standard reported that Meghan received a lot of support on Twitter because of Bad Dad’s mock- umentary on ITV. Some still defend that vampire. It explains Piers’ interview with Evil Papa Smurf: Morgan is seeing his useful idiot was losing in the court of public opinion and his interview was to serve as damage control. Same for Scammy coming out of her rock.

    • Britt says:

      Piers and Thomas are both boring and stale at this point. They’re broken records with an axe to grind and that’s why they aren’t getting the reactions they crave. The lawsuits have the press scared and are trying to intimidate her but the lawsuits aren’t going away. The BM know good and well that Thomas won’t come to England to testify and that’s its an empty threat. That man would get ripped to shreds s in cross examination. Piers really has no choice but to sink with the Thomas ship because he’s been one of his biggest supporters. The constant attacks are only reinforcing why the Sussexes left and are suing them. I don’t think they realize because the reactions to Thomas and Piers on twitter and other platforms are showing that they’re two obsessed losers that would get restraining orders in reality. The press are just mad they they’ve been held accountable and the world sees them for the gaslighting trash they are.

    • dynastysurf says:

      They… didn’t come up with this? Kate’s survey has its problems, but Bell Let’s Talk wasn’t H&M’s idea. It’s been happening for years before this, they just decided to support it this year.

      • Flamingo says:

        Exactly! They are promoting a good cause. They didn’t create it.

      • BabsORIG says:

        @Dynastysurf, who said Harry and Meghan came up with Bell let’s talk? Didn’t their insta say they’re proud to support the bell initiative? I don’t see them claiming to have started it, nor have I read it in any comment here, am I blind

      • OriginalLala says:

        lots of people (non-Canadians) have been saying they had a role in creating the LetsTalk initiative, which is patently false. not blaming the Sussexes for this but ya, so many Canadians take part and support the initiative every year.

      • Flamingo says:

        @BabsORIG We were referring to the original comment: This is a great initiative and something substanstial. It makes Kate’s survey look like a joke.

        I agree that it is a great initiative, they just didn’t create it like this commenter made it seem.

      • Erinn says:

        I find the whole Bell let’s talk thing incredibly hypocritical coming from a company that does not offer proper support to their own staff. Not at all M&H’s responsibility – they’re just sharing the initiative. But Bell is truly a corporate entity in the sense that profit is above all else, and staff conditions fall to the wayside.

      • carmen says:

        Erinn – 100%.

  6. Britt says:

    I have so much respect for Harry and I’m sure his mother would be proud of him. He’s protecting his loved ones from what has been a blatant media agenda towards him, Meghan and Archie. I think they took one look at their son and realized he would be abused just as much as his mother to make other members look good. I wouldn’t put my children on display to a press pack that has insulted, lied and maligned me for years and years, so they can make money. William and Kate are going to regret jumping in the bed with the press because Harry and Meghan’s flaws aren’t hidden and they don’t have to play the media game. In the long run, the Sussexes have truly won in my opinion.

    • Scollins says:

      Just today the D Fail speaks of Kate as the People’s Princess. Good luck with that. She hasn’t an ounce of Diana in her. The RF’s mistreatment of Meghan then Harry and that darling baby is a profound mistake they will all live to regret.

      • carmen says:

        No, she doesn’t have Diana’s charisma & genuine passion for helping others – those are qualities you are born with. However, it is possible to cultivate a work ethic and simply put in the effort and Kate doesn’t even try.

      • HMMM says:

        No, they spoke of her as the “Children’s Princess,” not the People’s Princess. Even then, it wasn’t about the effect SHE had on the children, it was about the effect the children had on HER. Which seems opposite to Diana’s moniker of the People’s Princess, which was because people loved her.

      • kerwood says:

        @HMMM, they SHOULD have called her the Princess of ‘Strategically Placed Black/Brown Children’, because Kate can’t go anywhere these days without a little Black/Brown child in tow.

      • Tessa says:

        Kate has these wide mouthed grins at the little kids. She is not genuine with them at all. The DM I think will end this Kate is great phase, and start criticizing again.

      • February Pisces says:

        ‘Peoples Princess’ Lol for days 😂😂😂 kate really thinks that getting the press she’s in bed with to write these phrases then it will somehow be true. I know she’s desperate to be Diana, but she never understood what actually made her popular. Diana for one never actually pretended to be perfect. She admitted her mistakes and accepted responsibility , talked openly about her eating disorder and her emotional stuggles and never denied her affairs (during the interview). This is what separates her from kate, who is obsessed with being seen as the worlds most perfect person. Apparently she was bullied at school because she was ‘perfect’. Kate would never admit her stuggles because it ruin the ‘perfect’ illusion she has created. There’s no genuine warmth to her like Diana. People saw Diana struggle and rooted for her, like they root for Meghan. People don’t root for or even relate to Kate’s ‘perfect’ image. It’s must kill kate that it’s Meghan who has the same media hysteria as Diana, and not her.

      • Sometimes kerwood, you just knock it out of the park. 😂. Love the new and improved Princess Kate title.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Britt, I agree. It makes me wonder how different things could have been if Charles & the Royals had tried to protect Diana for the sake of her children if nothing else. Instead of throwing her to the wolves for years and years. Harry is being the man his father couldn’t or wouldn’t be. He won’t be throwing Archie under the bus to look good like Will is going to do to Kate and the kids. He is actually going to try to protect his family like a husband/parent is supposed to do. When your models have all been toxic sociopaths, change has to be hard but he had the courage to do it anyway. He may miss what he thought his life would be, but he has the maturity to protect his family.

      • morrigan01 says:

        While Harry had likely made peace wrt how his “Pa” didn’t protect his mother, he clearly never forgave it. Not really. And he was NOT going to let his son look back on all of this one day and resent *him* over not protecting him and his mother the way Charles did. Harry himself has already said as much.

  7. GuestOne says:

    Harry has publicly defended, spoken warmly of many in his family& I’m sure him saying that Camilla wasn’t an evil stepmother& how much him& William got on with her& how the public should feel sorry for her for what she endured with the affair backlash- helped with Camilla’s public image rehab. So shame the family couldn’t reciprocate in any way

    Seems like they’ve both been let down by family

    • I agree GuestOne. Especially Camilla with that snarky comment. And yes, even if the question was unexpected and her remark was rushed, she is smart enough — and been at this game long enough — to have come up with a more loving response. She got the message out she wanted to get out. I’m not giving her a pass here. She is and has always been a player. Harry had her back when It was important and she just blew a chance to show a tiny ounce of compassion. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot I like about Camilla. She knows who she is and what she wants and I think that keeps her grounded and strong, she’s committed and passionate and loyal to her friends and charitable causes, she was blessed with and grew up in a loving and supportive and stable family, and she seems to have a terrific, ballsy sense of humor. I’d have a drink with her any time. That said, she was a key player in the mess she and Charles and Diana made of their personal lives. She has shown herself to be a keen strategist Who isn’t afraid to play hardball.

    • Tessa says:

      Camilla is not someone I like. And Never will. Camilla it should be remembered undermined the first wife even beginning with the time she and Charles were courting. Camilla is an opportunist and a manipulator> I cannot stand her and I don’t understand how in any way, shape or form this woman should be admired. Camilla has advisers, she’s just a manipulator and a schemer. Camilla and Charles should be ashamed of themselves. William and Harry had really no choice but to be polite. I don’t think either of them love the woman nor s hould they. If Camilla had not butted I think the Wales could have worked on the marriage. Charles admitted later that he did not love Diana when he married her. I don’t see anything “amusing” about Camilla. Camilla did not give her children a “stable family” she was off with the Prince of Wales and her children were sent to boarding school. Tom had a period of time where he was involved with drugs. Camilla knowingly interfered with two households with young children. What family would support a lifestyle of a daughter’s goal to be a mistress of a powerful man. Sounds rather dysfunctional to me.

  8. Becks1 says:

    I’m sure he does suffer from all the negative press and judgment. I’m sure its always bothered him, his role in the family, being the fall guy for William so often, but he didn’t really see a way out. I mean he always knew he could walk away, but that’s so much harder in reality than theory. Then along comes Meghan, and I think it was two-fold with her – she gave him a reason to walk away (to protect her and Archie the best he could) and she made him realize it was possible to have a healthy, productive, good life away from the UK and the royals.

    • A says:

      Before Meghan, it was really a question of where would he go and what would be do if he ever chose to walk away from the RF. If he had settled down with a blonde, UK based aristocrat, he’s still confining himself to those same circles and groups of people whose culture reinforces and normalizes the same types of toxic family relationships as in the RF. He could have gone to therapy, and the therapist would have likely pointed out these patterns to him, but really, how much could he have conceivably done at the time?

      I think Diana, in many ways, suffered as a result of this–she came from an incredibly toxic family environment and married into another incredibly toxic family environment. She didn’t have much space for escape from those bad patterns of behaviour, and it took her a long time to see that this is not how normal people behave by any stretch of the imagination.

      I think, for Harry, being with Meghan and seeing her set down the types of firm boundaries that he wished he could have done with his own family was a huge deal for him. I don’t think Harry’s intention was to ever cut off his family, but I think he definitely wanted to be firm with them about a great many things and felt that he couldn’t be assertive at all, because they’d shut him down or dismiss him out of hand. I think Meghan showed him that he didn’t need to place himself in this type of position at all. He would have come to that realization on his own at some point, probably, but his relationship to Meghan and starting a family with her was definitely what gave him the catalyst to do something about it.

  9. Toot says:

    I dont think Harry will miss the UK all that much.

    The media over there and the way a large portion of the public believe tabloids turns me off, so Harry is probably happy as hell being away from that cesspool. The royal rota is/was the main reason of Sussexit, in my opinion. Having to work with those swine was the deal breaker.

    He can always see his friends when he wants, but marriage and having a child can change priorities greatly, or should.

    • Mac says:

      The tabs won’t stop the negative coverage. As we can see, they are intensifying it.

      • Toot says:

        Harry and Meghan know that too, but having to brief ahead of time and have those people(royal rota) at their initiatives was a deal breaker and I understand.

        That whole plane nonsense those vipers ran for weeks was to mess up Harry’s new initiative Travlyst. Those snakes knew it was coming and did all they could to ruin it. Harry isn’t the only one in his family that flys private, often, but he was the only one dragged for weeks. Then to have his brother assist with his little family pr stunt was the last straw.

      • Le4Frimaire says:

        The tabs may still attack, but their fire will be blunted now. They can no longer use the taxpayers to justify their negative coverage. Their initiatives and patronages going forward are as private citizens so the rota won’t be there. They can work as hard as they want and do as much as they want, without “ overshadowing “.They’re 8 time zones from London so the day to day won’t be in the news. I think they will miss the diplomatic and military part of their Royal roles and representing the crown, but they need time to breathe and live as well, without being constantly attacked and undermined.

      • bluemoonhorse says:

        another thing about the press – M&H are depriving them of air. Because of Canada’s stricter laws, they will be able to shut down the paparazzi (may take time but it will happen). In one year, without any new photos of M&H? LOL on getting those clicks re-hashing 1+ year old news. Or spouting the same nonsense that people have heard a million times.

        And in one year that lawsuit against the media could have advanced to the point they are really applying even more pressure upon the tabs.

      • morrigan01 says:

        The tabs will continue it, of course, but there is a difference in dealing with such things when you live almost 5000 miles (over 7000 km) away from it all vs living in the same country/in the backyard of the press that is doing it. It’s MUCH easier to ignore it, especially because the British Tabs aren’t on display everywhere here in North America. (I mean, we don’t have them here on newsstands in the US. I don’t think it’s a stretch to think Canada doesn’t either).

        And being so far away also cuts off any access leakers for KP and other royal houses have to them, and any ability to leak info about them. So at some point in time the tabs will just be regurgitating the same stuff over and over with nothing new to say about all of this. Remember, it’s only been a week since they have left. At some point, there won’t be anything about them to talk about, unless H&M release it themselves, and even then they’ll be an 8 hour time difference for them to deal with.

  10. naomipaige99 says:

    I know I’m going to get torn apart for saying this, but I firmly believe it….

    Suck it up butter cup!!!!

    He was born into the public life. He might not have wanted to be, but he was. Stop talking about it, and go on with your private life.

    • Leo says:

      You’re not getting torn apart by me, although I would have probably said it a bit more gentler. But, yeah, I agree with the general sentiment. I know having to play by the rules you never even wanted is difficult, but the shortcomings he faces/faced also came with a huge parcel of advantages – advantages he was always more than willing to exploit. He’s lot in life is no more difficult than that of children of various stars. Yet they usually get snark and nepotism charges. Only Harry seems to be getting this huge amount of good will thrown at him, which is especially grating when you think how probably any other celebrity who have to have spent years making up for the way Harry behaved until just a few years ago.

    • pineapple says:

      naomipage99???? Come on. Blatant racism and hatred … endlessly?? It is unethical and immoral to decide to not address this. Unethical and immoral. The Queen, Charles and William should have stepped in to halt that mess … but they didn’t want to because they created it. It is the worst of humanity. It is not to be tolerated by sensible people and your level of money has nothing to do with it.

      • Tessa says:

        I would leave William out of the equation. It should have just been the Queen and Charles. I think William should not get above himself.

      • morrigan01 says:

        Many white people think that black people should just put up or “get over” racism. They don’t care that it’s dehumanizing to the person who is on the receiving end of such things. (Because they don’t actually see them as people anyway). Same type of people were saying Meghan should have just sucked it up. As if wealth and such can be any kind of compensation for such things. (But then they also love to police the wealth/money that a poc, particularly a black person might have as well, which is just another racist microagression).

        Watching someone you love – in this case his wife and son – being torn apart because of who they are/their race isn’t something he should *have* to suck up and deal with. Not if he actually values Meghan and Archie as human beings.

    • pineapple says:

      Also … sorry for ripping you apart but man, unethical reporting, “fake news” it is all really, really dangerous. People using the media for their own agendas. It has very serious repercussions for society. As we can see in so many of the most “successful” nations right now.

    • GuestWho says:

      The press and his family continuously ripping apart his wife was probably a deal breaker for him. No reaon on earth to suck up his f’ing baby being attacked racially nor his wife. It was an awful, targeted, years-long attack on his loved ones, and now you’re saying he can’t talk about it? Get over yourself.

    • lanne says:

      Imagine one of your friends comes up to you and says, My parents are making my life miserable. They are deliberately trying to tear me away from my partner, the parent of my child. They are trying to turn our entire community against us because they hate that I didn’t choose someone they would have chosen for me. I have a chance to make a new life for myself, where my family can live away from their poison.
      Your response? Suck it up, buttercup! At least you get to ride around in limousenes because your parents are rich!

      Hmm. Some friend you are.

      • Plus One On your comment Lanne (above and below). Also, I don’t recall Harry ever saying he is unaware of the wealth and privileges he was born into. But let us agree that everyone — rich or poor, privileged or not — has problems and pains and disappointments that we have to deal with. I’ve certainly had my share, but I can’t even begin to imagine what Harry went through as a child walking behind his mother’s casket while millions of people watched and judged and wanted a piece of him. I can’t imagine dealing with the sort of reporters on a day in, day out basis who are capable of standing on a road, in a tunnel, leaning in through a smashed car window and taking photographs of your mother while she’s dying. So yeah, Harry’s was born to a lot of privilege but he has equally had a lot of tragedy to overcome. Then he meets someone, falls deeply in love, they have a beautiful baby and the “shit hits the fan.” Could you “suck up” that sort of trauma? I’m not sure I could get through any of that and not be forever traumatized. A little compassion would go a long way.

    • bluemoonhorse says:

      Here’s a fact: his mom is dead. Her death was due to constant hounding of the media. If you have never experienced the traumatic death of a parent at a young age (I have) – there is no “sucking it up.” All you do is put a band-aid over a wound that never heals. The last 2 years has been putting an auger into a wound and turning on the drill.

    • Rose says:

      Oh have a seat. The behaviour of the press is inexcusable and there is no reason for it, ever, no matter who you are.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Really?!? I will be blunt too. Anyone who would tell a person who has been as viciously attacked as Meghan to suck it up has to be a pretty big bully or someone who enjoys watching others be torn apart for fun. The way they were treated was unethical, racist, disgusting and dangerous. They attacked a baby and insinuated that they owned the rights to dictate what the parents were supposed to do with the baby to feed the press. Claiming ownership of a baby who has biracial roots to people who actually had to fight against being treated as property for 100’s of years. Nope you can suck it up that these folks broke free and you can’t enjoy watching them get torn apart any more. They will flourish in spite of all of the filth thrown at them and anyone hoping otherwise can suck it up. My mother has a saying “living well is the best revenge.” It is true. The trashy Markle and the press and the bigots are going to have to suck it up while these folks have a healthy life and protect THEIR child. Archie is the one who gave BOYZh of them the courage to break the cycle of abuse their families and the press inflicted on them. Archie is the child who gets to live a life benefitting from parents who protected him with intention and care and a determination that he would not be abused for the sport of the Royals or the press or their god awful families.

      • Babz says:

        @Liz version 700, I am sending you a huge virtual bouquet of flowers for that comment! It was brilliant!!

    • Jaded says:

      naomipage99: Let’s see….Harry and his wife AND their newborn were being threatened with death…the tabloids were dragging Meghan through the mud because she’s a bi-racial, successful actress and philanthropist…then there’s the KP leaks of how he’s “unstable”, “mentally frail”…then there’s the racist dog-whistling coming from his own f*cking family…then he’s being corralled into a role he doesn’t want (William’s fart-catcher). What an unbearable life to live – it doesn’t matter how lavishly you live.

      • Tessa says:

        So many offensive comments since the get go. The typical ones included name calling, crude changing of the last name, The constant MeAgain jibes, Harry “needs to come to his senses” the anti wedding petitions, the false stories of her having another husband, a child that she hid out, and giving Samantha a lot of air time to trash Meghan.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Tessa there were anti wedding petitions?!?! I did not know that god just wow

    • Val says:

      Get the eff out of here with your ignorant, ignorant self!! Goodness, it’s as if people take supplements to be this stupid.

  11. lanne says:

    When I think about this from Harry’s POV, I really feel for him. Imagine falling in love with someone, which necessetates that person giving up her whole life for you–a successful career, friends, family, privacy. Then, that person is attacked left and right by the very family she gave up everything to be a part of. Imagine the press AND your family doing everything they can to ruin your partner’s life: weaponizing her own family against her when she is pregnant, weaponizing your country’s racism against her and bringing it to the surface. Imagine that the person you love is experiencing more racism than she ever has in her entire life because of her relationship with you. So then you decide to take your wife and new baby out of that toxic situation, and everyone blamed her for the choice you made. Every time you take a step to man up and take care of her (letters to media, leaving the family), she gets blamed. I would be mortified if I were Harry. How would any of us feel if we saw that our love for someone brought them public torment, humiliation, and hatred?
    No palace or crown jewels is worth what Meghan went through. It’s time to shitcan that Princess Fairy Tale trope that many women grow up with. Being a princess has always sucked. It isn’t something that ANYONE should aspire to.

    • Carrie says:

      Agree Lanee. On the button. The chimpanzee comment would have been the last straw. If it was all just on Harry maybe the suck it up buttercup comment – but no, at what price your mental health?
      And then once Meghan came into his life and especially Archie, the stakes became just too high. He made the right decision.
      # Nil support from the royal family
      #don’t mention the affair

    • Toot says:

      Exactly.

      Some of the UK press is vile. Meghan has been torn to streads by th most popular press in that country for everything. Harry has seen behind the scenes and knows the false narrative that’s been spun around her, and I completely agree with them both that having to put up with the blatant unfairness wasn’t worth staying.

  12. Ali says:

    Ah Nacho. Harry’s real brother

    • Lovely thought Ali. Now there’s a brother with his arms truly around you. When you love someone they are not a burden, as William seems to believe — they are instead, a blessing in your life. When was the last time William showed or spoke or even offered a smile to indicate one iota of love towards his brother in a public forum to let everyone know he had his back and supported him? All we get are half-assed, snarky comments from “sources” close to William. If the Queen can release a statement that is personal, there is no protocol forbidding any of Harry’s family to offer a direct word of public support. But then that’s been the problem with Harry’s family from almost the minute the Sussexes walked out of the church on their wedding day.

  13. HK9 says:

    While I know what people mean when they say Harry & Megan “ran”, my perception of this is a little different. Harry saw what kind of life was possible with Megan, and when he saw the treatment the press AND his family had towards her, he became very clear about how he wanted to move in the world and decided to do it. This is not the move of a weak person. Only strong people do this. This fragility that the press likes to project is just that-a projection. Mentally and emotionally, I think Harry is very strong, and in fact has become emotionally healthy, which is why he left, While he may still have the very human issue of feeling that people misunderstand his actions, he’ll learn to get over that.

  14. Valiantly Varnished says:

    Harry is doing what any good husband and father would and should do. My respect for him has grown exponentially during this entire thing. He said in their engagement interview that his and Meghan’s relationship was the most important thing. It’s clear no one was listening when he said that. Or at least didnt believe he really meant it.
    Harry did a proverbial “I said what I said” when he left the BRF.

    • Toot says:

      Yep, agree completely.

    • MellyMel says:

      Agreed! And not only did he say that, but he’s also mentioned many times over the years that he didn’t want to be Royal and wanted a more normal life. None of this is surprising to us that have been paying attention.

    • Erinn says:

      Agreed. I liked Meghan a lot more than Harry, but never really disliked him or anything. But so far, he has really impressed me as a husband and father.

  15. OriginalLala says:

    So, about the Bell #Let’sTalk initiative – Let’sTalk is an old initiative, it’s been around for years and years, Canadian celebrities and normies alike all take part in it. The more we text that day, the more $ goes to mental health services (though Bell, the company who runs it, has its own issues around this topic) The Sussexes posted an IG story about Let’sTalk, the same kind of thing thousands of Canadians have done on Let’sTalk days for years and years in Canada. It’s good that they lent their support to this long-standing initiative.

  16. bekindbekindbekind says:

    He’s very much his mother’s son. He has an ability to connect with people that is sadly rare in much of his family.

    • A says:

      I think that more than that, he has a real sense of compassion that not many other people have. It is far far more common for people in his circle to be self-absorbed and arrogant most of the time. I’m not saying Harry is perfect, but I do think he feels deeply about certain things, and one of them is seeing people get treated poorly for no reason of their own. It’s really sad to me that people get on his case for that rather than seeing it as something more of us should try to cultivate.

  17. Guest says:

    I feel awful for harry. Hes the only one from that toxic family that has actually changed as a person. Hes grown into a man, and no longer a little boy pretending to be a man like some in his family.

    I hope the love he and Meghan have is strong. Him leaving the uk is probably hard for him but it’s not like hes in Antarctica. Hes in a very nice country with lots of opportunities.

  18. Rogue says:

    They are keeping Frogmore& still have UK based patronages so doesn’t sound like they will never spend some time in the UK. Guess also depends on what Meghan is doing with her UK residence etc application.

    Harry’s been away from the U.K. for prolonged periods in Australia, Lesotho& during his army times& used to spend summers in Southern Africa. He also was at boarding school from a young age so could be used to long time away from family and friends

    My bet is one year review is largely about funding, if they can still keep HRH etc. I wonder if it also involves seeing how the court cases go& what situation is like with the press, them engaging press outside royal rota etc. Apparently Meghan’s case is scheduled to be heard in April.

    Press won’t change whilst it’s profitable but hard to use the faux protocol or taxpayers etc arguments when they aren’t working royals. Things won’t change until public is bored of it.

    I can’t blame Sussexes for not wanting to be around whilst there’s a hard right takeover in the U.K with Meghan as the ‘woke’ poster girl to trash.

    Curious as to whether there is thought of having quiet time as a family like William& Kate did in Wales initially& then return as working royals eventually in Charles reign. Or if they are done done.

    • Abena Asantewaa says:

      They have not quit UK, they still have Frogmore, their patronages, Meghan visited them all to reassure them, they just want a breather from the intense vitroil, to concentrate on their marriage and child. William and Kate, for 5 years stayed in Anglesy, and Norfolk; Amner Hall, with their children, swimming Pool, Tennis court, doing little or no Royal duties. Kate did ziltch. They only started being working royals, when George started school, then they moved into their 20 room, lavishly; ££££££,renovated KP. H&M, will divide their residence in both places, I suspect, they will be back permanently, when Archie starts school in 5years time, just like W&K. The queen and Phillip, would have been dead and gone, a new chapter will open, for renegotiations. Brave Heart Harry, is much admired for his stance in Britain, don’t let the press fool you.

  19. yinyang says:

    Bell Canada Let’s Talk is a brilliant move for Harry and Meghan. It’s a very respectable company. It’s a perfect intiative for them, they can put their heart and souls into it, and it’s Canadian.

    • Erinn says:

      Bell isn’t that respectable. I mean, they’re our biggest ISP… but they’re still shady. They’ve had a lot of criticism for their staff treatment, they liked to throttle people’s internet. The CTRC approved Bell’s request to bandwidth cap smaller independent providers using their “last mile” infrastructure. They seem to falsify information about network congestion. The email addresses of over 1.9 billion users were breached in 2017…then another 100k in 2018. They’re currently pushing to be able to track even more data on cells and internet – which given their track record of protecting data isn’t a great move.

      Currently I’m paying about $105 bucks before taxes and fees per month for home internet speeds of 7MB down, 924 KB up. I actually have to make an appointment with another company because it’s just absolutely garbage and I’m just so fed up with dealing with their support team.

      You have employees reaching out to the media because they’re treated so poorly. They’re struggling with mental health issues that aren’t being addressed, they’ve had human rights complaints from employees for not accommodating an employee’s disabilities (which is law in Canada). Honestly, working in a call center is a special kind of hell. Not everyone can handle it. So take some of the complaints with a grain of salt. But at the same time, the issue boils down to the inaction of the company once they’re aware of the issues. And that’s especially insulting when employees are watching them pat themselves on the back for commercializing a mental health initiative when they don’t ACTUALLY care about their employees in that regard.

      • Jaded says:

        I worked for Bell in human resources for 8 years and was treated very well actually. Yes it faced controversy and scandal but so has Rogers, Cogeco (which I had for a while and it was the worst effing ISP/phone service provider I’ve ever experienced) and Telus. We currently have Shaw and I hate it but they’re all basically the same – gouging monoliths. That being said, it’s hard to control the actions of hundreds of Bell businesses from a distance, especially when they come with their own deeply engrained culture. As many of these businesses were bought up by Bell, there were numerous instances of sexist, racist and harassing behaviours that I had to investigate and they often ended up with terminations. No one entity that large is without problems and the Let’s Talk initiative isn’t perfect, you can’t corporatize mental health issues, but raising awareness and money is a good start.

      • A says:

        @Erinn, even setting aside their shady business practices, the whole Bell Let’s Talk initiative has been largely hollow for me. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Meghan and Harry themselves are quite invested in the area of mental health awareness–the rest of their body of work speaks to that. But the whole Bell Let’s Talk initiative has been a corny way for some people and companies to do the barest minimum for one day of the year, while ignoring mental health issues the rest of the time.

    • Nic919 says:

      So Bell is a large institution that is looking to hide its shady practices with some PR about mental health. Hmm. Sounds familiar.

  20. Tpoe says:

    I’m sure he’ll get over it. He’ll have to. Normal private citizens have to deal with others judging us and everything we do all the time (it’s part of being human). He’s a high profile public figure. Being judged (sometimes harshly, sometimes unfairly) is unfortunately par for the course

  21. Enny says:

    Now that’s how PR is done! While the rest of the RF/Markle family squeals like pigs to the likes of Piers Morgan and the Royal Rota (none of whom, if we’re honest, exactly have “faces for TV”), Harry is calmly having Nacho f&cking Figueras out there casually spilling the tea. Nacho f&cking Figueras. They were not kidding when they called him “dashing.” The man is so sexy. Him riding on his horse could end wars, famine, and sexual dysfunction. He is just dripping sex. Once the world knows he has something to say on this subject, who’d willingly turn their eyes and ears back to the TM/PM train wreck?

    *I know it’s shallow and this comment is (mostly) tongue-in-cheek, but look at that man and tell me you’d honestly want to limit your tongue to your own cheek… 🤤😉🤣

    • Becks1 says:

      This comment just cracked me up. He is exactly what I expect a polo player to look like. He LOOKS like the Ralph Lauren Polo models!!! lol

      • lanne says:

        He IS the Ralph Lauren polo model, LOL. Harry has shown himself to be a man. For him to slink back to his family and leave his wife/child behind (which is what they want) would require him to leave all sense of manhood behind. That’s what his family wants for him. For him to be a Stepford Robot with no mind, no thoughts, no passions, nothing.

      • Becks1 says:

        Well now he is but he wasn’t when I was growing up, LOL.

        Agreed re: the Stepford robot. The royal family is shocked Harry has strength and a backbone.

      • Tessa says:

        I think if the Firm had their way, they would tell him he could come back if he would annul the marriage and he would need to support Archie. Then he could start afresh and find someone like …Kate!

    • What. . .now? says:

      @Enny I love your comment!

    • L4frimaire says:

      I’d be friends with Nacho all day and every day, just to watch him ride horses. The Brits can keep their bleating, bloated Piers and his toxicity.

    • Karmak says:

      This made my day! 😊😀😁😂
      Dashing = Nachos’ super power.

  22. Sarah says:

    Much as I’m interested to read about the Sussexes (particularly when it’s not just tabloid negative propaganda) I mostly came here hoping for pics of Nacho. Can we have them if he says anything else please? Or just because it’s Thursday?

  23. kerwood says:

    I think when Nacho says ‘people’, he means the royal family. I think Harry was devastated by the way his wife and son were treated by the royal family. I can’t imagine that he cared what the tabloids said about him; he’s despised those people since he was a child.

    • Marie says:

      @Kerwood. I agree with you 100%. He has always hated the press and they have been judging him since birth. It’s the family, no doubt.

  24. Marie says:

    @Rogue Thank you for pointing out that Harry has lived elsewhere. I don’t think spending half of his time in Canada and half in the U.K. will be hard. We will never know what really goes on behind the scenes but I just hope this move is a peaceful one for them. They definitely deserve it.

  25. THEREALME says:

    If he truly wants to live a normal life then he needs to delete his Instagram and web page, stop letting his friends give interviews, and stay away from anything Hollywood. People would forget soon. But I really don’t think they want a “normal” life. They want the money and attention but on their terms.

    • lanne says:

      What’s wrong with that? Don’t you live your life on YOUR terms? Isn’t that what we all seek for ourselves? They gave up their royal status, what else do you want them to do? Aren’t celebrities able to make their lives on their own terms? If, say, they want to sell access to themselves for 100 dollars a handshake, so what? They’d be criticized for it, rightfully so, but it would be their own choice. Doesn’t “normal” ultimately mean, able to choose your own destiny, whatever that destiny may be? Normal can be rich, poor, middle class. People need to get over the idea that they somehow own the Sussexes because the Sussexes ARE members of a royal family. They gave up their HRH status, and people STILL want to tell them what to do! You. Don’t. Own. Them.

      • THEREALME says:

        Unfortunately in a ‘normal’ life people rarely live life on their own terms. Lack of money for some means missing out on the education they want, or getting pregnant when you didn’t expect it means giving up that job promotion the list could go on and on. And I don’t think I own them. I would say the same about Taylor Swift crying about privacy while posting on Instagram and sending out friends for interviews – this kind of stuff invites people into your private life. Just saying.

    • Erinn says:

      There’s a difference between normal life, and hiding out. What you’re describing sounds a lot more like hiding out to me. Plenty of “normal” people have instagrams and websites.

    • HMMM says:

      And what’s unreasonable about that? I think everyone strives to live life on their own terms. They’re lucky enough to have the resources to do it. Good on them.

    • kerwood says:

      @THEREALME, it sounds like you would prefer they live an INVISIBLE life.

      Harry, Meghan and Archie are never going to have a normal life. He’s a blood prince, son of the future king and grandson of the Queen. Did Harry and Meghan EVER claim they wanted to live a ‘normal’ life? My understanding is that they wanted to live a PRIVATE life free of racist attacks from outside and INSIDE the family. That appears to be asking too much for some people.

      And I don’t think Harry and Meghan should have to muzzle their friends when practically everyone on the ‘other side’ has the tabloids on speed dial. Looking at you, Ma Middleton and Pedo Andy.

    • MsIam says:

      No excuse for bullying them the way the press and others have done. Bullies need to find another way to feel powerful, like fixing their own lives maybe? Then they wouldn’t have so much time to attack others.

    • Jaded says:

      @REAL ME: They don’t want the money and attention, they want to do their work as global philanthropists. That means they will be in the public eye, that’s what global philanthropy is all about – eyeballs. And they both have the means, the experience, the goodwill and charisma to do a very good job of it too. I’d be disappointed in them if they just vanished down the rich person’s rabbit hole and never showed their faces again.

    • L4frimaire says:

      @the real me, he said a normal life ( for a high profile global 1%), NOT the hermit life. I live as normal life and have Instagram, Twitter and Facebook accounts. These are a normal a part of modern life as having internet or a tv. I’ve also been to Hollywood. Wow, I just want to be a celebrity! Oh my god, can you be any more self righteous and full of yourself. Jokes be flowing.

  26. Nelly says:

    As much as Harry will be homesick he will remember that if he was still apart of that life how the press would target Archie more and pit him against his cousins as he gets older. Once he thinks about that he wouldn’t regret his decision.

    • L4frimaire says:

      Agree. If it’s bad now, think of how it would get when it was time to send him to preschool . Even their choice of school would become a hit piece with a national conversation about cost, privacy, how most British kids can’t go to the type of school Archie goes to, how it’s too diverse, international or not diverse enough. It would be this constant day to day struggle with their child. I think if they have another child, no one will know anything until they show up with the infant.

      • morrigan01 says:

        They probably won’t even announce she’s pregnant until the due date is very close. I’ve noticed a lot of celebs have been doing that recently. Also, it’ll be to prevent anyone from trying to force them to come back to the UK for her to have the baby or something (because I totally anticipate stupid articles and comments about how the new kid *has* to be born in the UK for some dumb made-up protocol reason).

      • GuestWho says:

        That is truly what I am hoping – that they either show up to the Trooping of the Colour full blown pregnant and not even mention it, or just show up with a baby. And then fly back to Canada without making any statement about it.

    • morrigan01 says:

      Harry has said before that he knows one day Archie will be old enough to look up and learn of everything that has been going on, and will ask him questions about it, and what his father did about it.

      He clearly does NOT want Archie thinking any less of him as a man or, more importantly, as a father by not sticking up for Archie’s mother or Archie himself when it comes to all of this. Harry may have made some peace with his dad wrt Diana, but I’m sure there is still a part of him that doesn’t think well of his dad for not protecting his mom better, and using him to try and rehab his image in the press.

      Archie was destined to lead an even worse life than the one Harry had wrt all of this if they had stayed. And Archie is why Harry is never going back. Protecting his son is Harry (and Meghan’s) #1 priority in all of this. So it may be a little hard now, but that kid and what his future would be like if they stayed would be worse.

  27. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    For me personally, especially the last decade or so, Harry is pretty much the only “royal” I’ve come to love and respect. If course he’s been affected. Just think about all the shit he grew up with, years and years of media and gossip abuse, internal and intrusive family dynamics all while sucking it up and pretending everything’s great, fantastic, wave wave, I love you all. OMG. Now he’s a spouse and a father and look what he’s achieved in just a couple of years! He’s amazing and I’m rooting for them.

  28. paddingtonjr says:

    It is amazing how quickly it devolved from “Harry and Meghan are taking a step back” to “strip them of all their titles and military patronages!” Never mind that William and Kate spent the early years of their marriage in Wales so William could play-act at being an RAF pilot and Kate could “adjust” to royal life, while retaining their HRH and ducal titles. Edward and Sophie had their own businesses for several years before becoming full-time royals, again retaining the HRH and royal titles. How many of Edward’s documentaries were presented by HRH Prince Edward? Andrew, at the very least, has engaged in obstruction of justice, yet he’s still an HRH and a Duke.

    What crimes have Harry and Meghan committed? Harry set up two foundations of his own, Meghan gave up her home, career and religion to move to the UK, dove into royal life, developing her own (successful) projects. Both represented TQ as Commonwealth Youth Ambassadors and during two successful overseas tours (one while she was pregnant and the other with Archie in tow), despite the racist comments hurled at mother and child (and towards Harry to a lesser extent).

    Perhaps a year “stepping back” is best for everyone as a cooling off period. Hopefully, they can all come back together as a family. Meanwhile, I hope W&K are getting their “keen” faces on for the increased workload.

    • L4frimaire says:

      Agree with this. Let them have their year and leave them in peace. It’s been constant and incessant dragging of this couple who have really worked hard on behalf of the royals and the UK. I’m glad they took a stand.

  29. Maevo says:

    Post-Sussexit I keep thinking back to to the statement Harry released in 2016 before they were even engaged about all the racist harassment Meghan was getting. This has been a long time coming and he is definitely focused on protecting Meghan. I can only imagine that those feelings have increased exponentially after Archie came in to their family. The racist bs that is going to get thrown at that kid is going to be disgusting and terrifying, I’m sure protecting him is their #1 priority right now.

  30. Karmak says:

    Harry has said himself that he has been in therapy for mental health issues. I believe it was in an interview he did with William. Harry even gave Willie the credit for suggesting that he needed to do something about his anger issues. I think leaving the UK was a good decision for them. Harry seems to be in contact with all his really close friends (military and childhood). There is nothing from stopping him from visiting them. He is not totally disconnected from home.
    I think Harry had come to the conclusion that Archie would have the same awful treatment as Meghan. Would anyone let their child grow up in a country where they are being mistreated by the media and Royal Family on a daily bases. If you could save your child from that world of hurt?
    Would you do what you had to do to protect them? Harry did. Just imagine what guilt and mental anguish Harry would be dealing with if Meghan and Archie stayed in that situation for years. This move is giving Archie a chance to grow into a confident and emotionally balanced person. It is also giving his marriage a fighting chance. Because, I believe Meghan would have eventually left with Archie.

    • Tessa says:

      Honestly I think William has the anger issues. He looks like he’d rather be someplace else and pouts when he does the appearances. Has he tried to deal with issues? Maybe not. But he is supposedly put in a position where he has some authority about what his brother does, I think William gets above himself. He said he wanted to put his arm around his brother or someone said he said it. He had ample opportunity to do this why didn’t he? He could have been nice to Harry and made no disapproving comments about Meghan. He was not there when Harry needed him. I don’t see Harry having “anger issues” I think there would be something wrong if he just ignored the media’s awful comments about him and his wife and even the baby. It’s natural for a man to be protective of his family.

  31. morrigan01 says:

    I’ve said once before that a lot of this is Harry going through what many white people who get involved in an interracial relationship (particularly with a black person) have said they’ve gone though/encountered. Which is people who were their close friends or even family members showing some deep microaggression racism towards their non-white partner. It even happens in what many would consider to be liberal white families.

    And the result usually goes one of two ways: either the white persons family are able to confront whatever prejudices they have and a good relationship is built with the non-white partner via learning process over the years . . . or there is a split – either the interracial couple split themselves away from the prejudice friends and/or family, or the pressure becomes too much on the white person in the relationship and they give in to friend/family pursue and break up with the non-white person they are with and just get together with a white person next time instead to appease everyone.

    And *that* is what the Royal Family, counters and trolls/haters have been trying to get Harry to do since the news of him and Meghan being a couple became known. Except it’s all playing out on a global stage. And Harry isn’t dumb, despite all the snide talk of him being so over the years simply because he’s not “book” smart. He’s “street” smart. He knows why Meghan is being attacked the way she has, and watched as his son started getting the same treatment, and people judging him for not doing what they want him to do which is dump and abandon Meghan and Archie. We know he has struggled mentally wrt his mom, and took up boxing to work on his anger issues. Those anger issues are probably going off the chart right now, and he’s had to hold himself back, probably from fully going off on family members even. Dude was no doubt blindsided by the truth of what his family really is/are when it comes to all of this, just like many white people who get into interracial relationships are.

    • kerwood says:

      @morrigan01, Another great comment that moved me to tell you how much I’ve enjoyed your comments in this thread.

      I think that being in an inter-racial relationship is a shock to most White people, especially those that get involved with Black people. It’s like their White privilege is stripped away and they get a taste of what millions of Black people experience every day. Being a member of the BRF only multiplies that shock a thousand-fold, or more.

      It’s clear that the Sussex marriage is a primary target for Harry’s family and the other racists out there. They’ve all made it quite clear that Harry would be welcomed back with open arms the minute after he leaves his wife and child. It’s also clear that the vicious attacks that have started being directed at Harry are BECAUSE he chose his Black wife and child. There are a lot of people out there who can’t stand the idea that Harry would turn his back on the ‘White’ world to be with his Black family.

      As a Black woman, I’m amused by how beside themselves with rage some of the haters (Piers Morgan) are. But I’m also concerned for the safety of the Sussexes. The lunatics who hate them have already shown that they won’t stop at violence. I hope that the Sussex family is well protected. I don’t give a shit WHO’S paying for it.

      • morrigan01 says:

        @kerwood thank you, I’m glad my comments have engaged you so much.

        What has gotten *so* many of these people, from Morgon on down to the online trolls, so twisted in rage is that Harry basically turned his back on what they consider to be the ultimate eshelon of white privilege – royalty – for his black/biracial wife and mixed raced child. It’s like, of course if they just pressued Harry enough he would dump her and Archie and marry some appropriate Aristo white girl because no way would Harry give up such a top echelon of privilege.

        But he did. He did it specifically *for* that black/biracial wife and mixed race kid. And they just can’t fathom that. H’e got to miss it, he’s *got* to come back. Because if he doesn’t, then what does that say about that eshelong of white privilege he was born into?

        They see Harry though their own white privileged eyes. *They* would *never* give up such a position, especially for a poc, especially for a *black* person. So of course he can’t mean it, of course he’ll be back – without them – and we’ll welcome him back and forgive his *mistake* of choosing *those people*.

        It also just shows that they have never onced really listen to Harry or anything he’s ever said because they kept filtering it though that view of white privilege and being at the echelon of it as he was.

        It’s also why they are fixated on the white side of Meghan’s family. These same people really, *really* always want black/biracial people to “choose” their white side over their black side. They tried it with Obama back in 2008, and Obama laid it down flat that he was black because, in the US, how you look is what you are considered to be. Unless you knew his mother was white then, just looking at him walking down the street and not knowing who he is, you would just see him as a black man. Meghan is a bit more easy to pin down as biracial, but she clearly had the “n-word wake up call” as Paul Mooney called it long before she met Harry. She’s already told the story about how when Suits cast a black man to play her father, she started getting a lot more racist comments made towards her online from people who discovered by that that she was biracial. She’s talked about how she learned about and studied colorism in college. And we already know her half-sister used to call Doria “the maid” and such. I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe she faced other such microaggressions from the white side of her family growing up.

        I think/hope they’ll be safe in Canada. Canada has stricter gun laws than the US if I’m correct, which is another reason I think they picked Canada over the US to live, among many other reasons. Because the UK and tabloid press don’t care about the level of dangerous racist hate they are generating. And we all know if something bad DID happen they would duck and cover and try and move the blame off of their shoulders which is where it squarely is wrt all of this.

  32. Chrissy says:

    Maybe it is just a way for them to work on their marriage outside of Royal work obligations and England in general. They got married in a hot minute, had a baby in another hot minute… maybe it is as simple as that. And, in light of Prince Andrew’s being a child molester predator who was quite friendly with a dead child molesting human trafficker, this separation has brought some very needed emphasis away from that point.

    I think it is all strategic – they will either be together or not, this will be telling – and then they will either go back to Royal life together or not… But he will go back.

    • morrigan01 says:

      And again, we have someone who’s not listening to Harry or anything he’s said even before he met Meghan.

      As long as the Royal Family don’t stick up and protect his wife and child from the racist (and sexist) press abuse? He’s not going back. And they are never going to (protect Meghan and Archie). Bank on that.

    • Marie says:

      @Chrissy Getting engaged after a year and a half of dating is not a “hot minute” They were both in their 30’s dating and wanted to start a family. Not everyone wants to date 10 years before getting married.

  33. Awkward symphony says:

    I haven’t watched the doc yet but its sad to see people criticising nacho or Meghan’s friends for speaking up. They are already overwhelmed by trash tabloids and palace collusion to paint them as week or in harry’s case as “unstable” & controlled by Meghan!
    I’m glad nacho spoke up.

    The comments are sadly filled with those speculating about their marriage or those how Meghan cut “him off” from his “family”😤, you people are dismissing the fact that he always wanted to leave. Also, didn’t Meghan give up her career,friends and dog to come live in the UK with him. So why is it such a big deal that they’re now alternating between Canada and UK🤔

    • A says:

      The trashy tabloids and not-so-trashy mainstream broadsheet press in Britain have had dozens of biographers and royal reporters print sh-t about Meghan and Harry and act like unofficial mouthpieces for the RF. Whether they see it this way or not, they play a huge role in aiding the RF’s abusive behaviour and tactics. But god forbid someone from Harry and Meghan’s side speaks up in their favour!!! People don’t even bother hiding their double standards.

  34. sj says:

    There are tons of celebs (not just here in the wilds of Canada but even in USA) who can go MONTHS without being caught by paparazzi. They just need stay low profile long enough that the newness of this “scandal” dies down, people get bored and forget about them. In fact, this is a GREAT year for this strategy – people will soon turn to focus on the upcoming US presidential election.

  35. blunt talker says:

    Harry is the only one among his family who appears more human in speech and spirit. When he talks about something he is gung-ho about you can feel the energy his words and his body. I will always keep Harry, Meghan, and Archie in my prayers.

  36. blunt talker says:

    PS-I just read in a magazine that is not really any kind of tabloid-That Harry took everything that belonged to him, his wife, and son out of Frogmore Cottage. How true I don’t know for sure. I believe one day they will return and do more royal duties on their own terms. But not before striking out while the irons are hot. 15-20 years from now the interest in them will wane, but not totally.

  37. sj says:

    Harry’s no longer young, “hot” (not that he ever was imo), single, or royal. He was tabloid “worthy” back then, especially when there was a chance of catching him partying wearing questionable costumes, dating every eligible girl around, playing polo, and hanging out naked in Vegas. Now he’s a non-royal family man, and once this scandal is replaced by something new, the public (and consequently the media) will lose interest. Unless there’s a divorce and custody battle in his future, which I hope not.

  38. Well-Wisher says:

    Just saw a quote from Mr Denzel Washington where he stated the ” quitting is for winners”. I hope that Prince Harry is aware that he is being seen as a decent person and devoted husband and father. It may seem that he gave up a lot but in actual fact- he has removed himself and his family from a toxic environment while acknowledging that what he was doing in ineffective.

    Many people are rooting for his family’s joy and inner peace.