Prince Harry & Meghan were in Miami, he gave a speech at a JP Morgan event

Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex attends The Invictus Games 2020 launch

Wooo, this is going to be “controversial,” I know. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex came out of (relative) seclusion and they traveled to Miami, Florida late last week. They were in Miami so that Harry could give a speech at an exclusive JP Morgan event. Reportedly, they stayed at Serena Williams’ home, but that sounds like an utter fiction from the British tabloids, especially considering… Serena’s mansion is in Palm Beach, not Miami, and that would be more than an hour in the car to get to Miami. So what happened?

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle were the keynote speakers at an exclusive JPMorgan event — in their first public appearance since leaving the royal family. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex turned up at the swanky 1 Hotel in Miami’s South Beach on Thursday night, The Post has been told. A source revealed: “It was all very hush-hush, with a lot of security. Meghan and Harry headlined the event as the keynote speakers.”

The event is believed to be the JPMorgan AIS (Alternative Investment Summit), held annually in Miami and attended by billionaires and high rollers like Bill Gates and Alex Rodriguez. It’s as yet unknown how much they were paid for the event, though the pair have said they plan to make themselves financially independent, so they will be paid for gigs like this.

[From Page Six]

After Page Six (and other outlets) broke the news of the Sussexes’ presence in Miami, the news was confirmed. Omid Scobie tweeted: “A source confirms reports that Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan travelled to Miami yesterday to attend a private @jpmorgan event. Only Harry spoke in front of guests (neither gave a keynote).” Traveled to Miami on Friday. So… did they fly in that morning? Or were they in Palm Beach at Serena’s house? The thing is, Serena wasn’t even there! Serena was in Washington state to play for Team USA at Fed Cup. As for the speech Harry gave, apparently it was about mental health:

Prince Harry has been in therapy for the last three years over the death of his mother, Princess Diana, he revealed at a Miami conference following an introduction by Gayle King. A source at the JPMorgan-sponsored Alternative Investment Summit — attended by a host of billionaires — said Harry emotionally opened up to the wealthy crowd about the childhood trauma of losing his beloved mother in 1997. The source said King — who has forged a close relationship with the royal couple — introduced Meghan, who then said a few words about her love for her husband, before introducing Harry.

The source said, “Harry spoke about mental health and how he has been in therapy for the past few years to try to overcome the trauma of losing his mother. He talked about how the events of his childhood affected him and that he has been talking to a mental health professional. Harry also touched on Megxit, saying while it has been very difficult on him and Meghan, he does not regret their decision to step down as senior royals because he wants to protect his family. He does not want Meghan and their son Archie to go through what he did as a child.”

[From Page Six]

Soon after this news came out, the silly season descended. People were like “Harry got paid a million dollars to talk about his mum!” Or “how dare he talk about his own mother!” Personally, I hope Harry did get paid and my guess is that the speaking fee was mid-to-high six-figures. They would be foolish to set their speaking rate anywhere lower than $500K. I would also guess that Harry and Meghan both have the freedom to say no to whatever gig they’re offered, so it means something that they said yes to this one, and it was probably because of Gayle King and “alternative investment.”

As for Harry speaking about his mother… he’s been speaking about his mother for free for years. And I’d be willing to bet that Page Six (and other outlets) are merely excerpting the parts of the speech that will get the most clicks. My guess is that he did reference his mother and his child and all that, but the context was probably quite interesting, and different than what we’re hearing. I mean, is it slightly tacky? Perhaps. But it’s also very tacky that Prince Andrew still has his HRH, his ducal title, his giant mansion and that his mummy wanted to give him a big-boy promotion for his birthday.

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  1. Flying fish says:

    Let them live and do as they like.

    • MeghanNotMarkle says:

      +1

    • EM says:

      I hope (think) they realize that they can do nothing right. The British media, BRF and racists (redundant I know) will tear them down for every single thing. All they can do is live their best lives and to hell with everyone else.

      • (TheOG)jan90067 says:

        Of course they are! It was perfectly alright to Pedo Andy *AND* HIS GRIFTER *EX* WIFE…*AND* BEA…*AND* FREAKIN’ EDO (!!!) to visit the Chinese Ambassador ON BEHALF OF THE QUEEN(!!!!!) to offer “condolences on the spread of the coronavirus. This POS STILL holds ALL titles, royal and naval, as well as has ALL gifted properties (that HE doesn’t have to pay back any renos on), and is still expecting to be “back in the fold” because he’s white and “MUMMY!!”

        And where is the outrage on behalf of the BM and the British people at THAT?????

      • Lucy De Blois says:

        They are living the life they chose, but their exit was ugly and the things are getting more and more ugly.
        Fortunately, they were smart enough to put themselves out of any danger before the storm hit the fan. I don’t think it was a mere coincidence (just to relax) the trip to Canada; as I don’t believe it was a coincidence that the baby was left in Canada when they returned to UK on the dawn of Sussexit.
        But I could believe that nothing above was carefully planned if Harry hadn’t come back to Canada with MM, to return again to UK to discuss the terms of their break.
        When he says in many interviews he got out of the RF because he wants to protect his family, I think he’s saying the plain truth. And not only because he didn’t want Archie to go through the hell of midia he did.

        Even if the path for H&M is done now, I hope the RF is listening to what is going around. Even if the croonies of the UK tabloids are fanning W&K, Andrew and the rest, followed by a procession of trolls (which I think are Royal Department for Control of Damages), it’s not everyone saying Amen to them.
        What happened at BAFTA was really ugly. Their entrance was the clearest signal of what the artistic class (UK/USA) think about William and the Royals. They should listen, because there is a long, long time the RF doesn’t get a piece of mind of poor mortals.
        To do what Will did is the most idiotic thing anyone could do. But I really believe he demanded to have the stupid clause; it fits very well with the personallity he’s being displaying to the public.

        I have a hunch that this story is far from the closure. I just hope it won’t be even more uglier for H&M.

  2. Giggles says:

    I am so tired of people shitting on these two.

    • KBeth says:

      Seriously, it’s like sport for some people to disparage them.
      Leave them be.

    • MeghanNotMarkle says:

      Agreed.

    • NLopez says:

      I don’t think it’s tacky. Good for them for living their lives the way they want to.

      • Jane says:

        Agreed! And corporate speaking engagements are a totally respectable way for important figures to earn money so they can fund their pro bono charitable work (ex-celebrities, ex-military commanders, ex-presidents, etc). Why not ex-royalty?

    • Capepopsie says:

      Me too! Good grief, leave them alone!

      • Dena Landon says:

        I, for one, don’t think anyone should underestimate the impact of a man of his stature talking openly about mental health in a community of bankers (who are most likely predominantly men). I say this as someone who worked in banking for over 15 years – there’s a lot of toxic masculinity in those workplaces. A LOT.

        When I started going to therapy on my lunch break, eventually people noticed and made comments about my “Dr’s appointments.” One of the women in the office, ugh, got particularly nasty with the side remarks. I kept going, and my boss supported me skipping it if someone scheduled a meeting over my weekly appt. but I still got flack for doing something for my mental health on my time.

        It’s a toxic environment which frowns on showing “weakness” and I’m very glad Prince Harry spoke up about it in this environment. And get their $ – they’re mainly jerks.

        Oh, and I was going to deal with my mom’s death at a young age, too.

      • osito says:

        @Dena — Thank you so much for sharing that perspective. I feel like the way we, as a society, view money and its relationship to power is so inhumane that it shouldn’t be surprising that the banking industry is a toxic mess where active management of one’s mental health is seen as a weakness, but it is still shocking and something we should be talking about collectively.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      I could not agree more. These are people being savaged by the press and their own families and internet trolls who have never met them. They are doing what they promised, working towards financial independence and living their lives. Good for them!

  3. Marie says:

    One of the main reasons he went to therapy was because of the death of his mom. If this engagement was centered around mental health then talking about his mom makes sense. No matter what these two do, people will hate on them. It’s exhausting. Just let them be. I want the best for these two.

    • Amy Too says:

      And I doubt he’s telling stories about the intimate day to day life of Diana. He’s just mentioning that the death of his mother is what led him to seek therapy. He’s not really talking about Diana, he’s talking about the fact that his mother’s death affected him greatly.

    • PrincessK says:

      I am quite sure that Prince Harry spoke about many things relevant to mental health but any reference to his own struggles will always be blown out of proportion and become the main story.

  4. Becks1 says:

    These are exactly the kinds of events they should do as they start to raise money for their foundation. I’m amused at how up in arms some people are about it.

    • Ainsley7 says:

      Not many people are reporting what the alternative investment meeting was about. The whole thing was about investing in urban communities, education, and prison reform in the U.S. Those are things I would like billionaires to invest more money in too. They weren’t raising funds for their foundation though. That’s why people are up in arms. Just because they took a paying gig doesn’t mean it wasn’t meaningful. They promised to be financial independent at some point and like it or not, Harry is used to a certain style of living. They aren’t Royals and got paid to do something good. It’s really not a problem.

      • Birdix says:

        Jamie Dimon, the billionaire head of JP Morgan Chase, was until recently a private prison financier. Jamie might claim he’s part of the resistance, but his change of heart came when he was toying with the idea of running for president—he’s always out for himself. That bank has paid billions In fines and to stay one step ahead of the law. He is not who I’d choose to cosy up to if I were looking for a fresh start as a philanthropist.

      • VS says:

        @Birdix — i know we are on a gossip website, it looks like you talk about things you have absolutely no idea about………but since we are gossiping that’s fine I guess

      • Lady D says:

        What makes you think Birdix has no idea what she’s talking about, @VS? If you know all about Jamie Dimon, please fill us in.

      • Blu says:

        Bravo @ Birdix.

      • Mumbles says:

        Thanks Birdix. Dimon and JP Morgan’s role in the financial crisis is google-able if not fresh in one’s memory.

      • VS says:

        @Lady D ………she/he obviously doesn’t know anything about what she/he is talking about…….now people talk about the financial crisis, I highly doubt those who talk about it like @Mumbles are Americans; yes it impacted a lot of people but do you actually know why we ended up having a financial crisis? People should really pay a close attention to what is going on in their own damn country! what laws are voted in, what regulatory rules are relaxed; they don’t and spend more time on SM complaining about this or that celebrity; people only seem to care at the end and most always miss the beginning unless when it is to blame the wealthy……….. If you are willing to have an honest conversation about the banking system and its issues, I’ll be more than happy to do so.

        I said we are on a gossip website but there are certain untruths that shouldn’t fly,……… not even if we are gossiping. Thank you.

      • VKES says:

        @VS you still haven’t corrected the “untruth.”

    • Ava4eva says:

      But the article does not say this money was for their foundation, it was for them to make themselves “financially independent.” I feel like giving speeches to celebrities to make money is what is not going to endear these two to anyone. Maybe in a year, fine, do what you like. But their first moves to make money (for themselves especially) should be better thought out. The optics aren’t great.

      • kerwood says:

        Harry and Meghan aren’t required to ‘endear’ themselves to anyone. If people don’t approve, HARD CHEESE. The people who hate them are going to hate them no matter WHAT they do but now Harry and Meghan can tell those people to piss off. And why worry about ‘the optics’ for people who are blinded by hate and bigotry?

      • Bren says:

        What are the optics that look bad? We don’t know who was in the audience so why assume they were speaking to a room full of celebrities?

      • MeghanNotMarkle says:

        On the contrary, I find it to be smart. These could be future donors to their foundation. Networking is a huge part of making all of this come together. JP Morgan may not have been the best choice but they’re doing what they can to build ties for the future.

      • VS says:

        Endear them to whom? in March 2020, they will be private citizens……..in case you don’t know what that means, I am sure a charitable person can explain it………..

      • Harla says:

        We really have no way of knowing if the money from this speech went into their private coffers or toward their new foundation or even a bit of both. Frankly, I’d take anything Page Six says with grain of salt.

      • Midigo says:

        At least I would have saved the mental health and grief topic for a meaningful occasion /audience. He cannot stretch his personal experience on this ad infinitum. I think that audience crave to rub shoulders with a real royal and meet other super rich. I doubt they have any real interest in the speeches.

      • Olenna says:

        “But the article does not say this money was for their foundation”. That right there should have told you there wasn’t enough information to make an assumption (which you stated as fact) that it was for them to make themselves financially independent.

      • VS says:

        @Midigo —— ” I think that audience crave to rub shoulders with a real royal ”

        I see that the fairy tale the British have been sold on to justify a royal family in 2020 is paying its fruits………..LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL

      • RoyalBlue says:

        Please provide the ways they could earn their financial independence that would be acceptable to you. I’ll wait.

      • Becks1 says:

        The article really doesn’t have any solid details about whether they were paid or what.

        But my point was more that they are going to need to make these kinds of connections as they start the foundation, even if this wasn’t a fundraising event.

      • Nic919 says:

        The optics of Andy going to meet with the Chinese ambassador to the uk with Fergie, bea and Edo are bad not this. Especially when the ambassador states he relayed a message in behalf of the Queen and BP refuses to confirm the meeting despite photos on his twitter timeline. These are the problematic optics. Not Harry who has openly broken with the family to openly earn money and not do side deals like pedo Andy and Fergie have done for years.

      • ennie says:

        I don’t care what they do, as long it is not illegal. Let them be. Whatwill they do? he was not raised to make it on his own, on the contrary, he was raised to be living in luxury just by the grace of his birth (not unlike any other rich heir), but he was not educated to make it on his own. Add to that the cost of his security.

      • Jaded says:

        The “optics” are that they are speaking in front of a large group of people who are influential – they can take giving to Harry and Meghan’s various charities to a new level. You have to MAKE those connections first before money will start flowing into said charitable organizations first. You don’t just send out a form letter asking for loose change. Mental health challenges affect so many people, even people like Harry who seems to have a perfect life has had struggles, but not everyone can afford therapy, not all children can attend special schools.

        Their work has to start somewhere and getting to speak at a JP Morgan event is a great start. And yes, they do have to earn a living too so good for them.

      • Nahema says:

        To be fair, anything they do now has huge potential to be seen as tacky. They now have a price which they didn’t before. I guess that despite how much I cannot stand Royalty, personal wealth isn’t the motivator in whatever they’re doing. It is not for Meghan and Harry so yes they’ve become considerably more tacky in general but then so are we all, if working for our money makes us tacky.

        The think that bothers me about all this is how much we are sold the idea of Meghan as a next level planner and yet their first move post Sussexit is so dull and is a blatant money maker rather than charity work. You’d think they’d have been smarter about that.

      • morrigan01 says:

        Here’s the thing: being private citizens means they don’t have to endear themselves to *anyone*. They don’t have to do anything at all except not break the law, just like any other regular person. Other than that, the only people they have to answer to are themselve. The only people they have to make happy are themselves.

        Far be it from me to cape for one of the Too Big To Fail banks. But if Harry and Meghan want to speak at an event hosted by them, and attend panels hosted by them and network with anyone else who happens to be there, than that is their choice. If they feel doing so helps them make a living and help to continue their own charity endeavors, then – as long as they aren’t doing anything illegal or harming anyone to do it – I say more power to them. How they earn their private money is not for me tell them what to do or how to do it, nor is it for anyone else to.

      • BabsORIG says:

        Hahaha, @Nahema I see where you going with this. Let’s lump everyone that earns a living in one neat bundle of “we all tacky” for doing what we do to support ourselves and our families, then default to going for Meghan’s jugular. Look, “we all are tacky”? Who’s we that you talking about? I know I’m not tacky for doing what I do. And what exactly should Harry and Meghan do that will pass yr litmus test, I pray tell?
        There was absolutely nothing the Sussexes did that was tacky. They said they’ll work towards being ifinancislly independent and they working to get to that. As long as they aren’t committing any crimes, how they earn their money is their business, what haters deem tacky is irrelevant.

      • PrincessK says:

        Well they are being forced to pay for the Frogmore renovations, which had to happen anyway. So I suppose that they wish to get rid of that debt as quickly as possible.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I do not understand why they are paying for renovations on a Crown Property that was basically uninhabitable. The Crown Property Management Company needed to up grade the property anyway.

        If QEII ask me for the money for renovations to a Crown Property, I would tell her to pound salt.

        Paying rent if your are not a full time working Royal makes sense but paying for renovations unless renovation payments are in lieu of rent makes no sense at all.

  5. Elizabeth says:

    Absolutely horrific Andrew has not made himself available to the FBI / has not been made to face charges. The only words I have are basically unprintable at this point. He’ll live in coddled luxury forever and people will stop caring.

    • Ainsley7 says:

      Even worse, he was invited to a dinner with the Chinese ambassador and gave them a message from the Queen. So, it looks like he’s trying to sneak back into official duties. It was a private dinner, but it’s being made out as official now because he had a message from the Queen. It’s all so gross. The Queen needs to step down. She’s clearly lost her mind.

      • Olenna says:

        “The Queen needs to step down. She’s clearly lost her mind.” ITA.

      • I don’t see any sneaking. I think we are all getting the message loud and clear that Andrew is on his way back into representing the Queen and BP is getting that message out.

      • MJM says:

        Agreed they weren’t sneaking. It’s the embiggening and rehabilitation of the York’s image and reputation and the palace is wasting no time. Amazing what the Queen can make happen when she really cares about you. It just sickens me.

      • (TheOG)jan90067 says:

        Not just him. As I stated above, it’s been reported that Freeloading Fergie was with him, as were Bea and Edo. WTF???

      • Ainsley7 says:

        It was a private invitation not an official one. That’s why I consider is sneaky. It wasn’t on the books for anyone to put a stop to it. He wasn’t there to represent the Queen, but he’s (with the Queen’s permission, I assume) twisting things so that it looks like he was. Fergie, Bea and Edo would never have been allowed if it was an official diplomatic visit and we would have known about it ahead of time.

      • PrincessK says:

        I was flabbergasted to see pictures of Andrew smiling broadly with his family at the Chinese Ambassadors residence. Let us see if the Sussexes will still be banned from representing the Queen.

        He passed on a message from the Queen!

  6. Seraphina says:

    I do not find it tacky at all that he talked about his mother. The man went through a lot at a young age. Growing up under the microscope in the royal family is bad enough, but adding the death of your mother so young and the conspiracies that your own family was behind it???? Yeah, that’s a lot. And it’s also fitting to talk about his mom here because of the topic: mental health.

    I’m sure Meghan and Harry have thought through every step they take and have taken. No way will they jeopardize what their ultimate goal is, there is too much at stake. And Meghan knows it.

    Now What IS tacky is the Markle family and how they talk about Meghan.

    You do you Harry and Meghan.

  7. Joanna says:

    Good for them!

  8. Digital Unicorn says:

    Its good that he is speaking out about Mental Health – everyone deals with grief in a different way and sometimes not in good ways. You should never be ashamed to ask for help.

    Given that narrative that’s been coming from big brother and his wife – you know those 2 great champions of talking about your mental health – I wonder how much this is going to trigger them?

    As for Andrew, given what he said in that interview he’s a liability and there is no way that the family will let him near the FBI – he’s dumb enough to incriminate himself even more.

  9. Aurora says:

    I doubt page six has any idea what Harry spoke about since they have no pictures and the event was exclusive.

    I’m glad the Sussexes chose such an exclusive event. Without pictures or more concrete info the tabloids have been forced to concoct fan fiction.

    • Jessica says:

      My thoughts exactly. I’m so happy to NOT have any photos. This couple lives their truth. Not to say that they’re perfect – no one is – just that they are creating their new normal. And it must be FABULOUS for them.

    • Shirleygailgal says:

      oh, please don’t call it “fan fiction” @Aurora…please call it out for what it is: lies, damned lies.
      Also, first comments are an awful lot like what I’m hearing from people who support trump…as in, are we becoming rabid fans without discernment? I do not’ think so, but that’s what I’m getting back … I’m a ‘libtard’ for supporting the D&DoS….sigh. I want to get to the bottom of this: why so much hate? why so much hate in this world; it feel like hate has exploded in the last few years and it is so disheartening…..

      • YaGotMe says:

        To your point of bringing politics in to our frivolous gossip – and being labeled for it – the Royal threads do create an either/or dynamic. We have created a space where you can’t enjoy coverage without picking a side. I’m not sure when we decided that you must either be a Lib*** ( I just can’t with that disgusting label) or a MAGA type based on celebrity gossip.

        Andy is still a piece of shit.

      • SamC says:

        On this site it’s just as bad…you cannot like Will and Kate or think Harry and Meghan are anything less than simply amazing.

      • notasugarhere says:

        More brand new names complaining about a site critical of W&K? The majority of Meghan haters are MAGATs; they’re the ones driving the hate about her online. And they’re always the ones who complain about sites that are pro-Meghan.

    • Mac says:

      The fascination with Diana is still strong decades later and I assume she will be the focus of Harry’s paid engagements because it is what audiences want to hear.

      • VS says:

        @Mac —– really? how can you possibly know that? knowing what that type of audience wants to hear? …….anyway we are gossiping to it is all good!

      • Mac says:

        Because I am on the board of a trade association that regularly makes decisions about paid speakers and I know how speakers are marketed. Harry has three areas of unique experience: Invictus, Sentebale, and the BRF, specifically his mother. Since everyone in the room at JP Morgan is rich enough to have their own philanthropy experience, that leaves the BRF.

        Just because you have no experience booking speakers doesn’t make me wrong.

      • Jaded says:

        Harry will likely discuss his own struggles, not specifically Diana. Yes she was chased down by paparazzi and died as a result of a perfect storm of events – drunk driver, Dodi exhorting him to drive much faster than the speed limit while navigating a steep tunnel with a sharp turn at the bottom (I’ve been to that tunnel), and not wearing seatbelts. However it’s the aftermath Harry will speak to, that his struggles are very complex and likely manifested in many different ways, not just missing his mother. When you attempt to suppress or ignore trauma it eventually comes out in many other ways – reckless behaviour, aggression, alcohol/drug abuse, inability to sustain close relationships, lack of self-esteem, self-destructiveness, the list goes on and on. So their focus would probably be on early identification and intervention on mental health problems and availability of therapy.

      • Tessa says:

        Harry was not given time to grieve. He and William within hours of hearing their mother died were taken to CHurch and not one word was said about their mother’s death by the clergyman no prayers no nothing. Then less than a year later Harry and William were expected to make nice with Camilla, the woman who loathed their mother so much. I doubt that the expected statue memorial to Diana will ever be placed at KP despite william and Harry saying it would happen.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Since you aren’t the one who hired him, Mac, nor were you at the event? Why he was hired by JPMorgan and what he spoke on is their business, no matter what ‘expertise’ you might try to claim.

    • Golly Gee says:

      “the tabloids have been forced to concoct fan fiction.”
      Unlike the rest of the stories they print about Harry and Meghan. \s

    • PrincessK says:

      Yes, I am finding it so funny how, because they have no choice, DM are using old photo’s of the Sussexes all the time. 😆😆😆

  10. lunchcoma says:

    This is exactly what I expected he’d do to earn money. Many public figures do, and once he’s done a couple of these private events, no one will find it shocking.

  11. RoyalBlue says:

    It’s his mother, his experience. He gets to talk about it and I have no problem with that. All the pearl clutching going on in the tabloids about them getting paid, and catty comments about them giving a speech, you would think they would be happy it’s not coming out of their taxes. These two are going to be financially independent and it’s a model for all royals not in the direct line

  12. Louise177 says:

    I don’t see how talking about his mother is tacky. Diana’s death is a major reason why Harry goes to therapy. Kind of hard to talk about his experience without talking about Diana.

    • Tessa says:

      DIana’s Death is the major reason Harry goes to therapy plus the events after her death, when the Queen practically gritted her teeth talking publicly about his mother.. The royals treated his beloved mother very coldly and Harry was expected to be nice and civilized to Camilla who loathed his mother. Charles and Camillas’ friend Junor constantly derides Diana in her books.

  13. JRenee says:

    I hope the therapy helps.
    He’s earning legit money to take care of his family. Good on them both.

    • bamaborn says:

      Yes, JRenee…Happy the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are getting on with their lives and letting the naysayers froth at the mouth. He has his family to look after and as long as he’s not exploiting and abusing children, they should go for it.

  14. YaGotMe says:

    Don’t forget to cue the outage over taking The company’s private jet, making the poor billionaires sign NDAs, JP Morgan’s shitty track record and making money off Diana. It’s barely 7 here and I’ve already read some doozies this morning.
    What did people think they were going to do, PBS specials?

    • L4frimaire says:

      They’ll get to that eventually as well, but probably for a Netflix or AppleTV, since PBS is publicly funded. What’s all this faux outrage and tut-tutting? Was it because we weren’t expecting them to make money moves this quickly, or that they were looking in the wrong place (Hollywood), because that is the only narrative the press seem interested in.

      • YaGotMe says:

        I guess for the same reason we cover the BRF so extensively here – because that is what generates site traffic and ad revenue? Outrage sells and it makes people feel good to pick a side and that generates more traffic, repeated hits and more revenue.

      • Lady D says:

        Outrage is going to make the DM owners billion$. They owe Meg a cut of that money.

      • (TheOG)jan90067 says:

        Harry already has an Apple+ documentary on mental health with Oprah (or is it done already?). And I thought that Netflix expressed interest in M&H doing documentary style pieces on environmental/conservationist topics with them as well, highlighting work their foundation wants to highlight. These are things they seem to be interested in.

        It’s not like they’re going off on the dinner circuit performing as a duo!

  15. Florence says:

    Good for them! They’re both so cool ❤️

  16. Ali says:

    Make that coin Harry and Meghan!

  17. leigh says:

    This is what it means to be free for them. Gayle may have asked if they’d speak and I’m sure they considered it thoughtfully. Being influential means meeting with those with the means to contribute to causes. Going forward, I’m sure there will be a mix of events consisting of all types of audiences, rich men, poor children, disenfranchised, fashion-types, Hollywood interests, urban leaders, etc.

    And after what they’ve been through already, what does it matter if they continue to be criticized for their choices? It just sounds like a boring, broken record.

  18. Chica71 says:

    Yep..Guess the Queen is realizing their draw because MH have to come back for Commonwealth MTG..

  19. Awkward symphony says:

    @Kaiser there was nothing wrong with your assessment. I too dont think the serena visit is true and the fools have no idea about what the prince said but they filled in the blanks via copying his past speeches. I too hope they got MORE than $1mil so you know who at the place is jelly!😏
    The fail now thinks that their earning power is an insult🤭if anything its increasing their value. I now believe Meghan (alone) can EASILY make 150-200mil. No wonder queenie asked them to attend the commonwealth ceremony😏

    • PrincessK says:

      Well it is being reported that their attendance at Commonwealth Day will be part of their final round of royal duties before they embark on their ‘new lifestyle’….a very sarcastic description from the fail. I expected them to attend Commonwealth, and if it is as part of their final round of duties, it remains to be seen. But their appearance will be a mega story.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I am sure The Daily Fail editors are down on their knees thanking QEII for inviting the D&D of Sussex to Commonwealth Day because now The Fail can re-write and re-post the same story six times and generate 100,000+ revenue producing click$!

      • Lady D says:

        @Bay, I checked the DM after I heard about the JP story, and there were 11K comments. When I checked again two hours later, there was 13K+ comments. Then the Fail rewrote the headline and removed the 13+ comments and the posters started over. Really curious as to why they took the amount of comments down. It would seem to me that they would want to show a high comment count for their advertisers. I realize this question is in the wind now, but do you have any idea why they would do that?

  20. Seraphina says:

    And what people fail to realize is that part of his therapy is being able to talk about it (his mother and her untimely death and everything that goes with it). In helping others he is also helping himself. And Meghan is a big part of that.

  21. Sofia says:

    I don’t understand the fuss

    They said they would work towards being financially independent and guess what: making paid speeches is a part of it. This is how a lot of famous people make their money.

    I think people are just mad that they aren’t promoting teas, doing reality shows and doing movie roles like people wanted them to do so that they could make fun of them being like Kardashians

    • L4frimaire says:

      Agree. Seems like the smart way make connections and earn money, which is what one does to be financially independent. However one feels about JP Morgan or Jamie Dimon ( E. Warren has a lot of thoughts), this is direct access to real money and real power. They have to get out there and work. This is one event, don’t know why all the girls are so pressed about it. I think a lot of people are mad because they don’t have any details, know how much exactly they were paid, or know about it until after the fact. They might have done other business events there that no one knows about. No access, no Rota, no taxpayers. Makes that mean spirited NY Mag article look ridiculous.

      • notasugarhere says:

        BP stating they do not comment on their private lives must be sticking in some craws. That’s the only response BP will be giving about these types of things from now on. No, the public is not going to get a list of what they do and what they’re earning. Just a simple statement, ‘none of your business’.

      • morrigan01 says:

        This is it exactly. People kept focusing on Meghan going back to acting and them both selling trinkets or whatever. They were *so sure* that is the kind of thing they’d be doing.

        I and a few others kept pointing out they would more than likely follow the path the Obamas were on, with speaking engagements, production deals, and maybe even books deals. And that is clearly the path they are following.

        I’m never going to be someone to cape for any of the Too Big To Fail banks, but as far as starting out on making their own money this was a smart way and direction to go for their first big move into that direction. HUGE networking opportunity as well.

      • PrincessK says:

        The truth is that you can dig up dirt on almost anyone and any organisation, if you really want to.

  22. Marivic says:

    The Brits and the British media are so incredibly riled up and so seethingly mad at this couple for having the gall to move on with their life that fast and easy toward financial independence. They hate it that they have not gone impoverished and destitute. They hate it that they stepped out of the RF. They hate it that they are global superstars; that the whole world wants a piece of them. But didn’t they realize that it was their intense hate that made the whole world take a second look at this couple to see where that hate was coming from. And what the world found out was that outright racism was the source of all the hate. They drove them out and have lost control over them. They are now the master of their fate. And they so hate them for it. Stay mad.

  23. Sorella says:

    I don’t know, I do cringe a bit that Harry is begging and shilling for coins now. As a Royal you bring attention to a cause, but a regular person you have to sell the cause, and it’s just weird.I’ll get used to it lol. I can imagine that was a tough crowd, some may have been smirking and sarcastically thinking “oh poor little rich boy who grew up in a castle, there are worse problems”. I feel nervous for Harry, I can imagine that Megan was nervously looking around to see how he was being received and I can see her afterwards going through it all, line by line and like a director, critiquing his words, performance etc because as an actress, she knows it’s a “show” yet Harry has gotten by as just being Harry. That could put a strain on them. Megan is type A and they can be hard on others.

    I know many here will STRONGLY disagree as many here are just adoring fans and adore everrrrrrything they do and not able to discern and be critical but are into blind adoration. Kinda like people who support a Trump, they support ALL and unable to see the bad parts. I like them both but they are now just two regular working people and in the working world you get performance evaluations…bad and good.

    • kerwood says:

      BEGGING? Really? This gig was probably chosen out of a pile of hundreds. And I think the crowd was probably ecstatic to be in the presence of the most famous couple on earth.

      Meghan doesn’t have to worry about how her husband is received because Harry is an excellent speaker who is beloved around the world. Harry isn’t the sort of man to preach to a crowd about population control when he has THREE children or about racism when he helped drive his bi-racial sister-in-law and nephew out of the country. You’re thinking about the other couple, the one with the ‘hyena grin’.

    • Scollins says:

      @Sorella What a crock.

    • VS says:

      Harry is begging because he might have gotten paid for a speech? is former president Obama begging when he speaks? MO?
      In what world do you people live? How do you think former politicians, CEO, ambassadors, former FED governors or even university professors make money? my goodness………some people really need to move out of their bubbles

      • LindaS says:

        VS Former president Jimmy Carter and his wife seem to be doing well volunteering for Habitat to Humanity. Not everyone is out to make more money than they will ever need in this lifetime or the next

      • kerwood says:

        @LindaS, President Jimmy Carter was a multi-millionaire BEFORE he was elected President of the United States. He made his money in peanuts.

      • VS says:

        @LindaS —– good for you! you should follow the example of Jimmy C. I don’t think anyone cares if some do. Just like you should not care if others do differently.

        We all have different ambitions in life. People accept your ambitions and in return, they would expect you to let them live their life and they wish………simple really!

      • MellyMel says:

        Linda, Jimmy has done plenty of paid speeches as well. Don’t know why you would think he’s different.

      • morrigan01 says:

        @LindaS, wow you really don’t know much because, as said, even Jimmy Carter gets paid to do speaking engagements. Back in the day even NIXON got paid for it, even after he had to resign from office. Getting paid to speak is pretty much something every former President has made money after office.

        And @Sorella, Harry didn’t have to beg for this WTF? Frankly, the way these things work, some JP Morgan representative likley approached him and Meghan to speak at the event. And I’ll bet even more offers have been extended for similar speaking engagements for both of them. And a smirking crowd? Most of the people there were millionaires and billionaires themselves. Some with more money than the Royal Family I’ll bet.

      • BabsORIG says:

        Oh the crap some people spew is just incredible. I’m amazed at how people eat with same mouths. @Lindas, Jimmy Carter is almost 100 years old, Harry and Meghan are in their 30s. At 35, Jimmy Carter was certainly NOT just doing charity volunteer work, he was working and earning a living however he saw fit.

    • Bren says:

      I doubt it. Not everyone is a jaded royal watcher that hate Harry because he married Meghan Markle. Harry’s perspective as a born royal stepping away from his privileged life will draw a lot of interest and fascination.

    • SamC says:

      I got to a lot of conferences and have sat through innumerable keynotes. Aside from the celebrity factor, what expertise/insight do either of them bring to the table to be worth paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for speeches? I’m more curious about the attendee feedback, was he compelling, did it resonate, leave an impact, or was it simply satisfying an ongoing fascination with Princess Diana/Royals? No, there is nothing wrong with sharing you are in therapy, have struggled mentally, etc. but what is the long term impact on him if he essentially has to monetize his mother’s death and the aftermath to feed and house his family.

      And I don’t get the folks on here who think their reasons for flying private are perfectly valid yet are all over Leo DiCaprio, Prince Charles and other celeb eco warriors for doing the same.

      • Jumpingthesnark says:

        Um, Harry “shilling for coins” ???? He is working, same as I and most of the people commenting here have to do. Zero shame in that, for us or for him or for anyone in the BRF. And if JP Morgan want to pay him a lot of money to make a speech, that is their money, their call.
        People get upset about GBR continuing to pay their security costs etc. Work like this is how they will achieve financial independence. You can’t have it both ways.
        Meanwhile, back at the BRF ranch, pedo Andy continues to be financially supported by the BRF/British people, and still has his HRH, military titles etc. You are worried about Harry making a paid speech, yet your tax dollars are supporting this scumbag????

      • Powermoonchrystal says:

        If you go to a lot of conferences as you said, you, like me, would have attended a couple with guys that survived plane crashes and became motivational speakers; or with celebrities who championed a change and created their own businesses; or just folks who wrote a best selling book about a relevant topic. It really is not that selective in terms of topic, but more in terms of celebrity, charisma, and some relation or teaching for the business world. I find that people complaining about this have never worked in the corporate world, or simply wanna find another thing to criticize.

      • Pinkgold says:

        Many organizations invited Harry over the years to speaking engagements because of his work with wounded veterans, mental health and conservation. The man created a charity to help kids in Africa dealing with the stigma of HIV, and has been able to sustain it for over 12 years, it has since been expanded to other African countries. He’s developing a mental health series with oprah, working with elephant without border and got disney to support it. He just launched a business with chase, TripAdvisor and other major players in tourism. Yet, people keep asking what he brings to the table?. Plenty! Meghan made money as an actress as keynote speaker at investment conference. She knows what is like starting a small business as a woman. She created and managed content for Tig and was invited to share her experience. Funny when folks try to downplay other people’s abilities.

      • VS says:

        you do not do those conferences!!! I can put a $1k on that; if you did, your comments here will be entirely different

      • Lady D says:

        He gave one speech that involved his mother at some point. One. Yet all of a sudden, his mother’s death is the only way he can feed his family? You vastly underestimate the man.

    • TeamSussex says:

      Since this is basic fan fiction there is nothing to disagree with. You ‘imagine’, LOL. Sure you do.

    • L4frimaire says:

      What are you talking about? This guy has been on the world stage for a very long time, meeting everyone from heads of states, to business leaders to grassroots organizers. He knows how to give a speech and how to work a room. Harry has had to fundraise and get sponsors for his charities. As for condescension, for the past 3 years, they have run the gauntlet of way more negative press, scrutiny, bias and disrespect than the majority of people in public life ever will in their lifetime. No major sponsor is going to pay $500k plus to a speaker who can’t deliver or connect, titles be damned.

    • Marie says:

      @Sorella. I’m sure most of the people in the audience have more money than Harry so I am sure they weren’t thinking “poor little rich boy”

    • Pinkgold says:

      What an incredible mind you have😂 Harry has been doing speeches for years. I mean, he spoke at Davos, Obama foundation, etc. So save your fake concern. Talking about mental health is not begging for coins. If JPMORGAN picked them up with their private jet, trust no begging involved.
      Imagine, wishing for their marriage to be over after one speech. You clowns are too predictable. Stay in your misery

      • Midigo says:

        Yes, he has been doing speeches. But he used to represent the Crown. And UK. Now he is Harry, son of Diana. I don”t think you can compare him to B. or M. Obama. Nor he can drag this mental health topic endlessly.

      • morrigan01 says:

        @Midigo he represented the Crown and the UK, but he didn’t only talk about the crown or the UK in his talks at Davos or the Obama foundation. My lord, some of you people think Harry’s worldview is as limited as the majority of the other royals in the BRF, don’t you?

        Yeah, guess what, the man has thoughts on things like AIDS care and treatment (which Sentable is focus is), the Environment and Conservation (Taavelyst) and Veterans Issues (Invictus Games) just to name a few, along with Mental Health. And outside of monarchist, no one in the real world gives to sh*ts if he holds an official title anymore. He’s *still* Prince Harry to people no matter what.

    • RoyalBlue says:

      Begging for coin? Lol, more like rolling in it. What exactly are you cringing at? That he is no longer a slave of the crown? Is it beneath him to assemble with fellow philanthropists? You need to get your mental health checked.

    • windyriver says:

      As far as “begging and shilling for coins” goes, take a look at some of Charles’ projects.

      As an example, Dumfries House. Charles didn’t just “bring attention” to the fact that an estate of irreplaceable historical value was about to be lost/dispersed. To save it, he had to raise millions in additional funding to complete the initial purchase of house/furniture/grounds. To bring additional value, he’s established more than half a dozen education/training entities associated with it, almost all of which are branded – Belling Hospitality and Training Centre, Murphy Richards Engineering Education Centre – with the names of primary donors. Dumfries House is a success on multiple levels – tourism dollars for the area, direct employment for locals, and providing skills training in an area that’s been economically depressed. But a huge amount of fundraising was needed to made this possible.

      Meghan’s cookbook and SmartWorks initiatives are along this line of a more proactive approach to advocating for and impacting specific causes. It’ll be interesting to see what she and Harry do next. Not all royal work has to be cutting ribbons.

      Finally, as another (non-tabloid) article pointed out, Harry and Meghan may have been paid for their appearance at this conference, but connections is likely why it was chosen. Several hundred very wealthy people whose interests overlap with theirs and who have money to donate now have a more personal connection with the couple.

    • Sorella —- Performance evaluation? We know they were there. We know he might have said the words, my mother, therapy, or — God forbid — Diana. That’s all WE know. How the hell you are able to evaluate their “performance” based on that is simply mind boggling. And Midigo — “….dragging this mental health topic endlessly”….? Again, we have no idea what he said or even what the main thrust of his speech was about.

    • Olenna says:

      Oh, so you want to drag drumpf into this conversation, @Sorrella. It’s obvious someone is naive about how philanthropy and the wealthy operate at higher altitudes. So, here’s some real talk. Whether you voted for drumpf or not, it’s people who express themselves similarly to the way you do who put his nasty, bigoted azz in office. Low information with too much emotion attached to personal feelings of inherent (and inherited) fearfulness, envy, misogyny, bigotry and/or racism. Now, please get over your “nervous” self b/c this ain’t about you or even to whom the Sussexes endear themselves. This couple is trying to make their own way in this world (and do some good while at it) and it’s sorry for you if you can’t see that.

    • Mich says:

      They don’t work for you.

    • Nic919 says:

      And yet you are silent on the behind the scenes shilling that pedo Andy has done and he doesn’t even bother to cut the ties of the sovereign grant money he has received over the years. Why would Fergie, his ex wife, be visiting the Chinese ambassador with him other than to shill for money. ( and there is no reason for Bea and Edo to be there either) She’s not a royal or even his wife. And let’s talk about Andy’s shady deals with Saudi Arabia and other countries. And what about Princess racist brooch who also cashes in on the royal connection. I guess it’s only ok for them to screw over the British taxpayers and do it undercover as opposed to being honest about it.

    • Florence says:

      This is a nasty comment. Go back to Tumblr where you can fangirl Waity and Cheater.

    • HaHa says:

      Wow. Saying posters to this site are similar to willfully ignorant Trump supporters is surely a prime example of trolling.

      Many have said, and I agree, that while comments can be biting and witty, there are a lot of thoughtful and informative comments too. I’ve seen people agree to disagree without resorting to such patently false analogies.

    • Jaded says:

      @Sorella: Begging and shilling for coins??? Honestly. what a stupid, ill thought out comment. He’s been a public speaker for years for great organizations – remember Sentebale? Invictus Games? Various conservation organizations? Their tours abroad? Do you think they’re huckstering on QVC selling mugs and teapots with their likenesses on them? They’ve likely been approached by some HUGE companies and have gone through offers to find one that most closely aligns with their focus. Both Meghan and Harry are professionals at this and no, Meghan wasn’t nervously pacing behind the scenes, feeding him his lines and holding his hand. Jeebuz how do you even think this crap up?!?!?

      • Lady D says:

        It wasn’t five minutes ago when I asked my friend the exact same question. How do you even come up with this (I used a euphemism for crap) It has to be the type of brain that receives glee from making others look less than them. I imagine them sitting around feeling smug and superior, and this is how they enjoy their life. Whoever mentioned insecure is probably right.

    • Derrière says:

      @Sorella, the Royal way of doing things isn’t cutting it anymore for their patronages. Ask the charitable organizations tied to Kate and William. They need to start selling causes.

  24. kerwood says:

    Ever since the Sussexes freed themselves from the royal family, people have been basically calling little more than freeloaders living off the sweat and tears of the ‘people’. Well, now they’re earning their keep! So now what? Harry has been open about his mental health issues, so why wouldn’t he give a talk about the issue to a bunch of really rich men and women willing to pay to listen.

    I think what bothers people the most is the fiction that Harry is this weak little boy curled up in the corner sucking his thumb, while Meghan is the one running everything, has been proven wrong. HARRY is the one who was the keynote speaker here; Meghan was basically Harry’s plus one. So Meghan doesn’t have Harry’s balls in her purse. Harry’s balls are firmly attached and resting in his pants, thank you very much.

    I hope he made a SHIT LOAD of money!

    • VS says:

      I also hope Meghan was covered with pearls and wore the most expensive Givenchy or ODLR after work dress ever!!! that will make those who are incapable of doing anything with their life even more envious…………

    • LindaS says:

      They might be earning their keep but they are also still living off the taxpayers. Pretty good gig they have going for themselves

      • kerwood says:

        HOW are they living off the taxpayers? I’d love to get the benefit of an insider’s information.

      • Nic919 says:

        Andy has been doing this undercover for years. He just hides his manner of payment so that no one can trace it.
        He won’t ever change either. Princess racist also does the same. But yes let’s go after Harry who is trying to be open about it all.

  25. KellyRyan says:

    I agree with Woo …

    A JB Morgan exec spoke on CNN stating the normal fee was between 500K and 1M. H&M have suffered enough and I refuse to read anything negative about them.

    We have an expression in the therapeutic community, “It’s not who is right, it’s what is right.”

    Schadenfreude to the BRF, Queenie, Chuckie, Pedo with a title, William the Terrible and the two vacuous social climbers, Carole and Kate.

    • KatV says:

      What’s wrong with being a social climber? Genuine question, but it seems to me you think it’s negative. So you can’t move between classes? That’s kind of sad.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @KatV because once you’ve finished with the person/people who’ve enabled you to climb another rung of the social ladder, you dispose of them. Social climbers use people to get ahead. They have no sincerity or integrity

  26. MeghanNotMarkle says:

    I don’t see anything wrong with what they’re doing. They said they would work to become financially independent and this is a way to do that for people who can’t just go out and work a 9-5. Good for them.

  27. TeamSussex says:

    Private and classy, just what they should be doing. Bravo.
    There are tragic people who are emotionally invested in hating this couple, imagine living your life foaming at the mouth hating people you have never met and have never caused harm.
    The security cost whining is really reaching. The son or grandson of the monarch will always be entitled to protection. It’s not a trade for doing a job that he still wanted to do but was told no.

  28. Soupie says:

    Yay for them. They have good judgment and I support anything they do.

    Page Six is pet cage liner. Utter trash. And Cindy Adams? That woman is the worst. A mean-spirited biddy. I haven’t clicked on Page Six or The NY Post in many years.

  29. Catherine says:

    He spoke about his mother for money. After all the outrage, the law suits, Earl Spencer, Paul Burrell…all making money off of Diana’s name. It’s a shame, but what else does He bring to the table when it comes to “billionaires and A-list stars” who are willing to pay him $500,000? They want Diana, they want her legacy. Do a bunch of billionaire bankers, Wall Street bros, want to discuss mental health? No. They want a piece of Diana, a piece of royalty, of her magic. It’s a huge “get” for them, but what does it do for Harry? Being paid to talk about his trauma over losing his mother for $500,000. What emotional toll does that take on him?

    • VS says:

      You obviously have never come close to the world of ‘banking’ you talk about………….funny to read your comment!

      • SamC says:

        Yeah, I’m pretty close to the banking world. It’s about access to celebrity; banking audiences are big egos who think they are always the smartest people in the room, wherever they go but they get a kick out of meeting famous people as much as anyone. I don’t doubt they were sympathetic, but the name vs the topic was the draw.

      • VS says:

        @SamC………..I don’t need to repeat myself; you obviously do not know what you are talking about! people who go into finance are smart (sorry if that hurts; that’s a statistical fact!); it is not easy to get in those top banks/HF/AM/PE type firms. Kids wouldn’t hustle for a few to break in if it was easy. Of course connections help a LOT, a great deal even but once you are in, you need something else. No wonder those people end up running central banks, creating companies or going into public office.

        Finance is not the only area to meet big donors; Tech is another huge place with load of smart people……..so i am not worry about H&M. I never were as far as money is concerned!

        Access to celebrity is important? funny really but it is not clear to you what “access” really means here

      • Emily says:

        @VS is your existence on this thread to accuse people of not knowing what they are talking about? You aren’t an expert in everything.

      • VS says:

        @Emily ——–It is only today that I am talking about it because it is a topic that I realize some seems to have no clue……..Ignorance is still ignorance! Where did I claim I was an expert in everything? In this topic, I see so many untruths on this post that I am just stunned that with all info available, people still have very little clue about the world of Finance (by the way, finance is not just ‘banking’ as I see most here seem to think…)

      • anon says:

        “I’m pretty close to the banking world ” Darling, every adult has a bank account…

    • liriel says:

      This. I also wonder how many times he can appear to talk about it. And those bankers love royals and celebrities.

    • TeamSussex says:

      He spoke about himself for money. Fixed that for you.

    • Jaded says:

      @Catherine, how do you know he spoke about Diana? Were you there? Here’s my best guess: He spoke about mental health and how it affects many of us, even those who seem to live a perfect life. He spoke about trauma – poverty, abuse, war, and yes death of loved ones – and how trauma can affect and destroy your mental health, and the earlier mental health problems are identified the better the outcomes for sufferers. To give it veritas, yes he spoke about his own personal problems and therapies that have helped him, which is a brave thing to do. Your take on big-wigs only wanting a piece of Diana is ridiculous. She’s been dead for 23 years. Harry isn’t flogging his mother’s memory, he’s showing that ANYONE can develop mental health problems and to get therapy as soon as possible is key to good mental health.

      I could say more about the lack of empathy and understanding in your comment but I daresay it would be falling on deaf ears.

  30. bekindbekindbekind says:

    The Academy asked them if they wanted to present Best Picture. They politely declined.

    Wise move.

  31. Judith says:

    Honestly good for them to get private gigs.
    But I am having real trouble with the fact that it’s for JP Morgan. Until this both the Duchess and Duke of Sussex have done a lot for really good causes, they really tried putting their money where their mouths are. I always felt that they have been selective in where they appear and what partnerships they did. But that is easier to do if you have an income that is provided for you. I felt that them wanting financial independence would lend even more power to their selective parnership choices.

    Banks still invest massively in fossil fuels and other shady initiatives. So to me this feels wrong. I understand that they have to make money somehow, but I feel that there are other initiatives and company’s that are more ethical and really try to do more for the environment and good causes than massive banks that still massively contribute to the worlds problems.

    This move towards financial independence really forces them to practice what they preach and I have to be honest, I’m a little bit disappointed.

    • YaGotMe says:

      I am thinking this was a little about getting paid, a toe in the water so to speak, and a lot about networking. This event wasn’t for mid level conference goers, it was full of million/billionaires. Pure speculation on my part but it puts them in the room with people they can partner with on both charity and personal endeavors.
      No one believes they were invited to speak on the investment world so the mental health angle makes the most sense to speak to. It was limited exposure media wise with opportunity to network the 1%. Its good strategy.

    • VS says:

      LOLLLLLLLLLLLll where is @kerwood to respond to your BS comment? I hope they got paid $1m to further add to your disappointment!!! LOLLLLLLLLl
      do you need salt? I can buy some for you

      • YaGotMe says:

        It is entirely possible to champion the Sussex brand AND side eye JP Morgan. I see great value for them from this event as I said above, from a privacy and networking stand point it was a brilliant move.
        People are going to look at who they align with as this unfolds since it’s never been done and there will be those whose judgement will be based entirely on a predisposed opinion.

        It is going to be entertaining to watch it unfold.

      • VS says:

        @YaGotMe –
        you do know those banks now have huge staff running investment in communities? have you heard of the 10k women or 10k businesses? They all do have a ‘smart’ type philanthropic arm now and even green business. did you know about the 100-year green bond? It is smart business nowadays for these large businesses to think about communities they operate in.

        JPM is a business; they are in the finance business to make Money, not to lose money. They have done plenty of shady deals, plenty (hence the fines) but it does not make them a bad business…….I sometimes wonder when I hear people demonize wall street…. how do think companies or even the companies some work a, get any type of funding? do some think companies run on water?

        Don’t want to get political but there is so much ignorance in the world despite the same world being bombarded by a 24-hour news cycle

      • YaGotMe says:

        Which is irrelevant to the point I made, but ok.

        Banks have staff? Good to know.
        Nowhere did I demonize Wall Street.

        I did giggle a little about JP morgan being in the business to make money, not lose money.

      • VS says:

        I said staff running philanthropic type investment!!!!!!!!!!! my goodness, wasn’t that clear enough….wasting my time I see

      • YaGotMe says:

        @ VS — I was also very clear. That it is entirely possible to hold one opinion ( positive ) of Team Sussex and another opinion (negative) of JP Morgan.

        My other point was that people ARE going to look at the types of companies and organizations that they align themselves with. My additional point is that many people will judge those associations with their own bias based on their personal opinions.

        So yes, you are wasting your time lecturing me on JP Morgan since my only reference to the institution is that I understand why some would side-eye it.

        I’ve mentioned twice now that I think it was a solid strategic move on their part so I’m not sure why this rabid defense of something irrelevant to my comments.

    • L4frimaire says:

      This is what disappoints you? Not the sh*t show that was the British press and royal family driving them out of the UK, for wait for it, taking their role seriously enough to want to make a real difference and getting too much attention just by showing up.Now here comes the purity tests. They need to be financially independent, but only in the right virtuous way with the right virtuous people. We need to know all about it, but they have to be completely invisible and silent as well. You want them to be everything and nothing. Send them your suggestions, I’m sure they’ll consider it. Look at where your pensions and 401ks are invested, or the funds where your municipalities put their money. That you can change more than where these two decide to give a speech. Vote Green, and ride a bicycle, and make some lemonade.

      • VS says:

        @L4frimaire ——– BRAVO!!!! thank you very much for your comment. I wish there was a like button here.
        No one is talking about the Art Room, a charity supported by a royal, closing its door. No one is disappointed in PA still representing the crown.
        People want to monitor how some make their money. Harry & Meghan is just a repeat of Barack and Michelle. Just like B & M, I am sure H & M will ignore the noise created by people who can’t stand to see other succeed.

        People want to know about H&M; at the same time, they complain about too much H&M……..do they even realize how irrational that is?

      • L4frimaire 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. I couldn’t have said it better myself. There is not one of us — that I know of — about to live this totally righteous life that many expect the Sussexes to live. When did they agree to become saints? Or saviors, for that matter? Unless you are willing to go totally off grid — and turn off the electronics, shut off the power, walk everywhere, weave your own clothes, make your own toilet paper, grow your own food etc etc — then we all contribute to the problem because none of us can control how money moves around and the purity of every person involved with handling it or creating product or a service that each of us uses on a daily basis. We are all compromising our ideals with our daily life.

      • Pinkgold says:

        L4frimaire👏 Exactly! Some of these people holding Harry and Meghan to some impossible standards they won’t hold the Queen protecting her pedo son, works for shady organizations. Same folks did the same to Obama when he got out of office. I am glad the Obama’s ignored them and are doing really well.

      • Jumpingthesnark says:

        What L4Frimaire said. Also, are you “disappointed” that GBR taxpayers continue to support pedo Andy through the sovereign grant?

      • Lady D says:

        Sorry, but what does the R stand for in GBR? I’m assuming GB is Great Britain. Thanks.

    • Amy Too says:

      But how are you going to get big banks to invest their money in charitable causes and things that are important to you if you don’t ask? This was a way for Harry to make money, yes, but he got to speak about whatever he wanted and he chose to speak on the things that are important to him and why they’re important. And just by being in that room, they met and networked with hundreds of people who all make a lot of money and might want to be seen supporting the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. These big companies all do philanthropy, even if it’s just to make themselves look better. I’d rather they give their charitable donations to mental health causes supported by the Sussexes then some right wing Christian “charity” that funds a bunch of evangelical churches in the Midwest, or something like “crisis pregnancy centers” that are actually just anti-abortion clinics run by random church ladies and not nurses who give out pamphlets full of lies. I’d much rather the Sussexes be in the building talking to all these rich people about Sussex supported charities than someone else.

    • Olenna says:

      Naive.

    • kerwood says:

      @Judith, it’s sweet to be concerned about the ‘ethics’ of Harry taking a gig with JP Morgan. I’m sure a lot of people are concerned about him soiling his lily white hands. But Harry is a Prince in the British Royal Family. Compared to his folks, JP Morgan is the UNITED WAY. See: Duke of York, Andrew. Not to mention hundreds of years of profiting from slavery and world domination.

    • KC says:

      Right, and then there’s their “advocating for the environment” while taking a private jet to speak to bankers.

      • kerwood says:

        @KC, if I had the racist lunatics gunning for me that Harry, Meghan and Archie have, I’d take a private jet to cross the street.

      • VS says:

        @kerwood……..love it! next @KC is going to say H&M take a private jet to cross the street…….with those people you never know LOLLLLLLLLLLLL
        Notice how @KC didn’t say a word about Prince Charles, or about W & his wife but you know only Harry & Meghan truly do matter; perhaps it is because they only pay attention to those two

      • Jaded says:

        There is absolutely no proof that they flew by private jet to Miami. Nor were they advocating for the environment in Miami. The topic was mental health. As for private jets, why don’t you turn your righteous indignation to Prince Charles and Davos? Or the hundreds of JP Morgan delegates who no doubt flew across country in their solid gold private jets to be there?

        There, fixed it for you.

    • Nic919 says:

      If Harry never left he would be living off money that has been acquired by the BRF for centuries through genocide, colonialism, slavery war and murder. But yeah let’s pretend that JP Morgan is worse than hundreds of years of white supremacy.

      Is JP Morgan a perfect company? No, but it is actually a step up from his last source of income.

      • kerwood says:

        @Nic19, WELL SAID.

      • Lorri says:

        Too late because Harry acquired his entire fortune from the BRF, so his money will always have a connection to genocide, colonialism, slavery, war and murder. And Charles is still funding him through the Duchy of Cornwall, so same thing.

        JP Morgan? Sorry, but that’s not a step up at all.

      • BabsORIG says:

        @Lorri, so where yr outrage at the rest of the BRF? Or is yrs just reserved for the Sussexes? And JPM is not a step up? Well, different strokes for different folks I suppose. Keep being pressed. 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • PrincessK says:

      You can dig up dirt on almost any large scale company or multi-national. So what should they do? Sometimes the only answer is a trade off.

  32. Whatnow says:

    Totally off topic but come tax time which taxan do they pay?

    Megan is used to paying taxes and filing a return.

    How does that work for Harry? Does he have to list trusts an such that usually kept private?

    And what did people think they were going to do?

    If they need to earn enough money to become independent not-for-profits can not pay that kind of fee.

  33. Rapunzel says:

    Not my ideal choice for their first move, but I suspect they’ve thought things through. This most likely served as a great paycheck and networking opportunity. It’s not foundation related, but they are meeting the people that help them with their foundation down the line.

  34. Wowsers says:

    As someone who produced these sorts of events for investment banks for many years, I would put the price tag at over 2m for attending, give or take a bit depending on what side events they did around the main speech.

    Does Harry have anything to offer these PE guys from a professional standpoint? No, of course not. But having these two would be worth every penny, because of the bragging rights at the country club and around the boardroom table “oh I met Harry and Meghan, at this JPM thing, blah blah blah”. The aim is to get your biggest clients in the room, and mission accomplished.

    I think H and M could coast by on these sorts of appearances, talking about the same mental health stuff and invoking Diana, for about another three years or so. After that, as a producer I’d be asking why I’m paying this money and what can they bring that is new?

    • Bren says:

      In three years they could have their foundation fully operational and making strides in their chosen areas of interest. As long as their foundation show positive results, they evolve their public profile, and remain above the fray, they could continue to thrive through their philanthropic initiatives alone.

    • L4frimaire says:

      They still have commitments to their current patronages and upcoming events like Invictus games. They have credentials and experience beyond cutting ribbons and wearing hats and uniforms.They’re not just sitting around trading on Diana’s name. I doubt that was even the main focus of the talk, just a part of it. These two have loads they can talk about on a lot of subjects, not just mental health. They certainly are experts on the British national media and fami,t dynamics. That in and of itself is worth discussing.

  35. GMKamien says:

    This is the first step. No one knows how this will turn out, I hope well for them. It is interesting to see and hopefully for them it works out well and they are happy and successful. Another plus is that it shows a path for Charlotte and Louis in the future ( because it is hard to be in the shadow of someone else you entire life cough cough all of Charles’ and Elizabeth’s siblings). I wonder how long the monarchy lasts in its current incarnation, I think it will likely evolve to be more similar to other current monarchies. It is interesting how much money they have compared to other monarchs in Europe.

    • Aria says:

      I dont think William will ever allow Charlotte or Louis for this path. Their purpose is to be punching bag for george and his wife. The behaviour from their kids in public is that george is more like Charles and we know how Charles become. I’m pretty sure Kate is more devote to Louis because he practically saved her marraige to William in her mind. Like queen with Andy, I’m sure george grow up with grandfather , father throw their siblings under bus for own pr is going to impact george for that same path . He might spare Charlotte like Charles did to anne they don’t have much age gap like George and Charlotte. But george and louis the scenario is more and more like andy and charles. They dont be like diana boys closeness , eventhough in the end they turn out exactly like Andy and Charles. Let’s see how cambridges kids do for pr. Ps anyone saying cambridges kids will be middleton is very wrong beacuse middleton kids didnt grownup in castle and they didnt grownup with heir and spare mind.

      • YaGotMe says:

        Really? They are going to turn out like Andy and Charles? Any chance we could not project fan fiction on anyone’s kids?

      • Doobie says:

        Wow Aria, do you have next week’s lottery numbers too. FYI Charles and Andrew are nothing alike.

      • Aria says:

        @YAGOTME this is Windsor curse for more than three generation. Everyone thought diana boys will be different but in the end William proves that he is Windsor heir after all. What makes you think george will be different?? Charles grow up watching what liz did to her sister and same William watch Charles did to andy?? Do you think george will be oblivious to all these shit show. In this day and age all kids have smart phones and they are more savvy to technology. They can easily read and they are going to school where other kids will be poke fun at. What make you think they will grow different?? Andy and his wife becomes charles and diana punching bag for pr. Like meghan and harry for cambridges. In that sense only I said Louis will be punching bag for george and his wife beacuse in the end they always protect the heir.

        Doobie when did I say Charles and andy are alike. I was saying george is more like Charles who was shy and sensitive kids . But in the end Charles was vicious to his sibling only leaving anne alone . Please read what I say clearly and reply.

      • Nic919 says:

        There has been a consistent pattern of issues between the heir and the spare for generations. The BRF is horrible to kids and the courtiers made things worse by raising the heir above the others. The Queen Mum did it to Charles and William and there is no guarantee it’s not being repeated with George. We can point to several generations of this.

      • Aria says:

        @nic919. That’s what worries me too. I’m very sure these things are repeating behind the door. Even diana broke the rule and raise the boys according to her , but in the end william throw harry under the bus. What will make george different?? Kate is no diana. Kate was complicit in smear campaign to boost her popularity. If she has any sense that she might realise that these things will repeat for Louis and george . In the end she trun her eyes blind and did nothing. Kate growup in an environment where Kate thought her all girls are her enemy. Did we ever see pippa , james and Kate with their friends?? When Kate stan make fun of Meghan friends , atleast meghan has some friends. Kate doesnt have any female friends of her own. Those are either William friends or his mates wife. In twenty years how many times we have seen kate shopping with her friends ?? Shopping with girlfriends is girl code 101. Kate was often spotted alone, either with Pippa or carole . Her stan give excuse that her friends dont want to be in press but they have no problem falling out from clubs half naked and drunk?? Those club girls are always William mates and their gf . If Kate was being that competitive with other woman ( carole created this story of Cinderella step sister as York sister, those girls are far from crindrealla step sister. For me only Kate and pippa are crindrealla evil sister) how charlotte will be around other girls ?? She will also project that fear and competition among girls. Parents always pass down their fear to children. One good example is that long time ago it was reported that Kate was allergic to horse. Now you can see in canada tour george doesnt like pony and William sat him down. Surely George may got this from Kate. It is strange that in their circle and age we didnt see george or charlotte riding pony . William rode one in young age. George and Charlotte are very much in a age to see what was going on with his uncle. Plus george was attached to harry and william throwing harry under the bus what george will learn from this?? Plus those courtiers living for those heir and spare drama. They wont allow anything out of ordinary .

      • Tessa says:

        I think George will be like his maternal grandfather not Prince Charles. For one thing it is said he spends more time with the Middletons and even looks more like Michael Middleton than Prince Charles. Charles may have come across as “shy and sensitive” but he grew up IMO to be decidedly unshy and insensitive. He was IMO atrociously insensitive to his first wife and later he admitted he married her knowing he did not love her; he wanted heirs. I do see a pattern though George at age six is being treated like he is “more special’ than his siblings. Diana tried to discourage that and was appalled how the Queen Mother openly favored William over Harry. If George gets the “center of the universe attitude” by being treated as more special he will become another Charles and William. It also should be kept in mind that Should George not have children, Charlotte would be next.

  36. Jay says:

    This seems like a smart move that fits into their “portfolio” of interests well – investing in marginalized communities, the environment, and mental health awareness. These are things his brother also claims to care about, too, right? So these shouldn’t be controversial.

    I thought the revelation that Harry has been in therapy for three years really heartening, and maybe that’s why he’s been able to identify and take action to get away from some of these toxic behaviors. Supposedly he’s also stepped away from some of his school friends (presumably the ones that partied with him in Vegas and threw parties where Nazi costumes were acceptable, so, you know, huge loss), all blamed on Meghan of course.
    I’m sure the outlets that will call Harry’s speech “tacky” are the same ones who publish headlines about what Diana would or wouldn’t like for “her boys”, according to some random palace insider.

  37. Anne says:

    I like Meghan, I am rooting for them, and all that, but honestly, every time I read how a person X, Y, Z got paid crazy amount of money for a ten-minute speech I think of the salaries of teachers and professors who hold lectures and classes for multiple hours a day and who are experts in their respective areas and I get really annoyed.

    • VS says:

      but you really shouldn’t. I am an american and I am a firm believer in capitalism as a mean to help people drive themselves out of poverty……..of course reckless capitalism drives to nationalism and that’s what we are seeing in the US and UK with Brexit.

      Everything in capitalism is derived from value people perceived you bring to society…..that’s where the unfairness and the lack of information kick in.

      1) Athletes are paid millions of dollars to dribble, shoot a ball or hit one: Kobe Bryant, LBJ, MJ, Magic, Larry Bird, Tiger Woods, Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, etc… but you only see those who have succeeded; you don’t get to hear about those who tried to reach those highs, fail and are struggling –> this is lack of information; do you think it is easy to become LBJ or KB or MJ? of course not, but a lot tried and FAILED! so those who succeed should be rewarded for it …..simple!

      2) Teachers are very valuable to society; I am talking here about public school teachers. why don’t you ask your community why they are underpaid? you yourself are part of the problem. You value your entertainment more than teaching, hence the price of your entertainment will go up and the salary of teachers will go down……….it is simple law of life: supply and demand. Don’t blame anyone except the people who vote…..NO ONE ELSE is to blame here.

      3) Seeing people get mad because someone makes load of money in a few minutes is insane. It means you don’t understand what is called human capital. Bill Gates will never be poor because even if you take away his entire fortune, he will rebuild it in a few years…… that’s where capitalism has failed the idiots who think they can be the next Jeff or Jack D by simply doing nothing and expecting something in return

      People should invest in developing themselves, that’s the only value they have. Risk takers should always be rewarded more than those who do 9-5 jobs (people doing it are MOSTLY risk adverse people). That’s perfectly normal. University professors at Ivy league or Ivy league like universities like MIT/Stanford and the likes are NOT poor. What are you talking about? why do you think there is so much VC spirit in the US?

      Sorry for the rant; I should just stop; this is not the place to talk about such things

      • Anne says:

        Oh no, I understand everything perfectly. I am just annoyed.

      • VS says:

        Ok I understand you better now…….I really do appreciate your honesty in recognizing that you shouldn’t be mad but you can’t help it. Thank you very much
        It is nice to debate with people who know themselves and why they react a certain way to certain things

      • Anne says:

        Of course. I also enjoy a good debate and this is actually a very good topic to debate on. And I appreciate your point of view, it was actually very informative.

    • kelleybelle says:

      Being a Prince of the United Kingdom and a former POTUS pays very, very well if you give speeches, although I see your point.

      • Anne says:

        I get that, they are basically “selling” themselves, or their names. I get that. But I still find it annoying. I probably shouldn’t, but I can’t help it.

      • kerwood says:

        @Anne, then you must be SOOOOOOOOOOO annoyed that the Queen of England supports a sex offender. And that she supports him selling access to the royal family to any sleazy business man that coughs up the cash.

    • Anne says:

      You mean Andrew?

    • Joanna says:

      I know it’s tough to see when things aren’t as easy for us financially. Our bank manager is building a second new home and she means nothing by talking about it but it’s like rubbing salt in the wound. A lot of us are not making near as much and jealousy is normal. I struggle with it myself. I appreciate your honesty. I love Harry and Meghan but I’m jealous as hell of how much money they have.

      • Anne says:

        I understand you perfectly, and I wouldn’t even call that jealousy, honestly. It simply bugs you that you work very hard, and you deserve so much more and then someone else just splashes their privilege in front of you like it’s nothing. And I don’t mind self-made people at all, have as much money as you can, good for you, Meghan being one of them. But honestly, Harry was born rich and has no clue, education or relevant work experience and I actually like him, so I don;t mean it in a bad way.

      • BabsORIG says:

        Devil’s advocate here but I don’t know what makes you think Harry is loaded with money he was born into. AFAIK, all the money attributed to Harry is his inheritance from his mother when he passed, and whatever little the queen mum left for him. The rest of whatever he has was earned fair and square from his job as a British soldier x 10 years. So, no Harry was born into money but that money has NEVER belonged to him because he is not the heir. Harry worked hard to get where he’s at. When you ever serve yr country for 10 years and do 2 tours in Afghanistan, then you can have room to talk but until then, sorry you don’t get to diss a vet who gave all to honorably serve his country so you can have the freedom to diss him.

      • Anne says:

        @BabsORIG You can’t be serious. You can’t compare real soldiers and veterans to a prince of the UK who inherited MILLIONS of pounds from her mother/ggreat-grandmother, who is funded by his father and grandmother and literally lived in a freaking PALACE. Yes, he was in the army, yes he served a few missions, good for him, I admire him for that, but saying that he lives off his soldier/vet salary/pension is actually deeply offensive to vets and soldiers.

    • Amy Too says:

      A lot of times, it’s not so much the fact that the super elite (and I’m not specifically talking about Harry and Meghan, and I don’t think Anne was singling them out only, either) seem to be a bit overvalued and paid huge amounts of money for little work (like short speeches or working a room or putting their name on a product or invitation), it’s that everyone else is so undervalued. It wouldn’t seem so unfair if teachers weren’t paid so very very little money for doing one of the most important jobs in the world, for example. Or if it wasn’t considered normal for a vast swath of society to have to work at least 2 jobs per adult in the family and still not be able to afford to own a home, a car, or go to the doctor or dentist when they need it. And again, that’s not Harry and Meghan’s fault, and I’m not blaming them, they’re working in the same society that everyone else is and it’s a society that they didn’t set up. But it’s also not so easy to change it. We are just now this election cycle getting candidates who want to do Medicare for all, free college tuition, student loan debt forgiveness, universal basic income, etc. So it’s not like we’ve all just not been voting for the right candidates in the past or been lazy about trying to change things.

      I’m also slightly bugged by the fact that it seems like the super wealthy get a lot of things for free when they’re actually in the best position to pay for stuff. (And I’m not talking about Harry and Meghan here, either.) So not only are the rich very rich, they don’t even have to spend their own money to stay in nice homes, travel, go on vacation, get the latest tech gadget, sit in the front row at concerts or broadway plays, or wear the newest gowns, tennis shoes, jewels, and watches. Those are just the perks of being super wealthy or famous. Thousand dollar gift bags that you get for attending a party at the newest club or resort that you were invited to come to for free.

      And it’s difficult to break these cycles and pull yourself out of poverty or being lower middle class by taking the kind of big risks that might pay off and make you wealthy in the end. I think capitalism would work better if there were a greater social safety net and a regulated minimum wage/minimum income that was actually livable and allowed people to have enough money left over to invest, or take risks, or open new businesses.

      • Anne says:

        Amy, you understood me perfectly and you explained my point more eloquently than I did. :)
        Yes, exactly that. And it doesn’t really bug me that Harry made that amount of money for such a small gig. What bugs me is the fact that someone who went to school for years and years and works very hard every day makes like 5% of that amount.

      • YaGotMe says:

        I get it. I’ve felt it. I agree with your well written post.

        I think we call it priviledge and it comes in many forms both elusive and blatant.

      • VS says:

        “I think capitalism would work better if there were a greater social safety net and a regulated minimum wage/minimum income that was actually livable and allowed people to have enough money left over to invest, or take risks, or open new businesses.”

        This is a wonderful point! I am huge proponent of capitalism because i believe no system has been better in pulling people out of poverty. It is much easier to take risks when you don’t have to worry about paying rent or healthcare or paying for your children education.

        Democrats have advocated for years for a stronger social safety net. I won’t mind paying more taxes; a lot of people who can, would also not mind paying more taxes (of course I am biased by those around me) but where the GOP won the battle (or perhaps the war) is by convincing some poor rural people that a social safety net will go to minorities who are lazy/have abortions and all the BS…..when I see those people voting for the GOP and basically aligning themselves with people whose objectives don’t match theirs, I am just amazed.

        I do admit my biases because I am a social liberal even if economically I do align more with republicans but there is a balance that we have to find in the middle…….

        Sorry I went again on another rant; Finance, economics/social sciences, business and politics are some of my favorite topics in the world

        Ok back to gossiping………

  38. I don’t see anything tacky or shady about this. Harry gave a speech to JP Morgan high rollers and investors. They are going after big donations for their Foundation in my opinion. Wealthy investors like to be wooed for donations at very private, very exclusive events. Investors at that Miami event are the kind that write donation checks for 6 or even 7 figures. Of course the Sussexes are hustling. They’re going to be doing a lot of meet and greets, and private speeches at these type of events to bring investment into their Foundation. That’s how that world works. That’s one of the ways they are going to bring in funds to enable their work. I’m sure they expect the RABID bottom feeders to dissect and find extreme fault with everything they can find out about the appearance including — but not limited to —- travel arrangements, who else was there, what he said, where they stayed, what she wore. I read that the RR especially are focusing on what it cost them to travel and the expense of their security detail. So nothing has changed or will change when it comes to the attacks. The “RABIDS” won’t be happy until the 3 of them sit in some locked cage somewhere so “safe” that they need no security. What am I thinking, even that won’t make the RABIDS happy. I’m glad to hear the Sussexes are continuing to move forward in building their Foundation. I for one am not going to add my voice to this nasty nitpicking and sit in judgement of every move or word they make.

    • Harla says:

      You know they aren’t doing anything different that what Charles has done for years to fund his Prince’s Trust Charity or to pay back the $20 million loan he took out to save Dumfries House and it’s collection of Chippendale furniture. The Sussex’s are just starting to build the support for their foundation, like finding the people that they will be able to turn to in the future for help in funding initiatives and special causes they wish to support. I wonder if they have talked to Charles about how he built his Prince’s Trust Charity from the ground up to the powerhouse it is today?

      • Doobie says:

        Your forgot the £17m he had to borrow from the Queen to pay Diana off.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Doobie, you don’t appear to know much about the British royals. Charles didn’t borrow 17 million from the Queen. Diana took his entire personal fortune, which was around 12 million that he could liquidate, and had to borrow the rest of the 17.5 million from his mother.

      • Tessa says:

        Prince Edward when he was working outside the RF did get paid to give speeches. He even had a speaking tour in the USA some years ago.

  39. Harla says:

    I think this is a great way for Harry and Meghan to “become financially independent”! As I commented above we really don’t know if they money they were paid went into their private coffers or their foundation or a bit of both. I hope that at their “year-end review” with the royals they are able to tell Charles to keep his money as they don’t need it.

  40. portobadisco11 says:

    If it’s good enough for Barack Obama, it’s good enough for Harry

    • VS says:

      Thank you…………I think some live in a dream world where they think money will come to their door or fall from trees LOLLLLLLLLLLL
      Networking, Networking, Networking…….that’s what you learn when you work, or go to business school or go to any elite college in the US. why do people think some would kill to put their kids in those universities? it is only there that you get to meet certain type of people………full disclosure, to succeed, one doesn’t need to necessarily do that of course

    • James says:

      Obama: Harvard, law prof, President of the USA; Harry: born with silver spoon in mouth. There is no comparison between the two.

      • GuestWho says:

        Harry: 10-year military career – active duty veteran – 2 tours; founded (and maintained) an HIV/mental health charity at 19 years old; founded (and maintained) Invictus games; long time participant/supporter of several charities involving mental health, environmental, and wildlife initiatives.

        Very few people actually serve as POTUS, and it is not the only way to gain relevance or attention for important causes. A lot of people said of Obama that he was just a community organizer when he became a US senator at the age of 44 (nine years older than Harry is now).

        Don’t underestimate the reach and relevance of people who actually, truly care about helping people and who also have access to great big wads of cash. This is Harry’s beginning.

      • Nic919 says:

        Harry also experienced the traumatic death of his mother in front of the world as part of one of the most emotionally stunted families out there. No one is denying that Obama is highly intelligent and has a lot to of helpful advice to provide, but pretending that Harry has nothing interesting to share is simply being obtuse. After all if no one cared about this family, the media would have ignored them decades ago. But you go making your snide remarks as if losing a parent at the age of 12 and then being forced to mourn in front of millions is just an every day occurrence.

      • Olenna says:

        For what it’s worth, that’s just your opinion, @James. Your inability to see the validity in a comparison is telling. Many people with less education and status than both men have experiences worth speaking and writing about.

      • Gingerbee says:

        Ha, Y’all upset, because Harry is doing what best for his family. Good for him. The haters will be still stewing, and raising their blood pressure.

      • VS says:

        @James —– I am willing to bet you were one of those hating on the Obamas after they left the office; controlling and getting mad at how they make money…………yet here you are.

        You are right; in terms of skillset, No one in the RF and that includes the queen can hold a conversation with Barack Obama on anything………..Harry & Meghan at least are trying. They are not the Obamas, I agree but they are trying; I respect that

      • Gingerbee says:

        My comment was directed to the original poster, and another one, SJ.

      • JC says:

        James, exactly!

      • kerwood says:

        @James, @portabadisco and others AREN’T comparing Prince Harry to President Obama. What they ARE saying is if taking corporate gigs is good enough for a man as well-educated, intelligent, distinguished and well-connected as the former (and much missed) President of the United States, then it’s good enough for someone who doesn’t have the same credentials, like Prince Harry. To say it’s comparing the two men is a false equivalency that even little Archie wouldn’t fall for.

    • Catherine says:

      I think this is where we *pause* and review President Obama’s resume, his scholastic achievements, president of the Harvard Law Review, his brilliant campaigns, Obamacare, all of that (And so much more) before we put Prince Harry in the same category. PH didn’t got to college, barely finished Eton. Can we acknowledge achievements that were EARNED and earn the hard way, over someone born into a royal family?

      • Jaded says:

        You sound like you’re blaming him for being born into the BRF. He could never become a politician, the BRF MUST be objective in the work they do and never take political sides. What Harry did do is go to Sandhurst, then trained in Canada with Canadian and British military. He further trained at the Army Air Corps Base flying school and continued on to specialize as a helicopter pilot and finally attended Defense Helicopter Flying School with the RAF. He then went on to do 2 tours of duty in Afghanistan until an Australian reporter outed him and he had to return to the UK. He didn’t then sit on his arse pretending to work like William, he started up Invictus, Sentebale, Walking with the Wounded, and many other charitable ventures highlighting the military, the environment and conservation. Not too bad – and he earned them himself.

      • kerwood says:

        President Obama is a brilliant man who is spending his post-presidential career writing, traveling, spending time with his family AND taking quite a few corporate gigs. I’m sure that if Prince Harry asked the President if he should take the JP Morgan gig, the President would have encouraged him to do so. In fact, there’s a good chance that Prince Harry has received advice from President Obama, since they’re good friends.

  41. ana says:

    It would be great to have all these speeches made into a book or in a blog so the tabloids did not have a hand on this narrative.

  42. kelleybelle says:

    I don’t get why it’s so important that people know how much they were paid, so petty. It’s like reporters saying “We don’t even know the name of their second dog.” Who needs to know and why? Ugh.

    • Marie says:

      The reporters are having meltdowns over this. They think that since the pay for security they need to know where they go and how much they get paid. It’s pathetic.

      • kelleybelle says:

        Yes it is. They were bitching when they were in the UK and part of the royal family. They left, and the RRs are still bitching about “tacky.” They don’t sound any better than the trashy Markles, but then again the media puts the words in their mouths anyway. The Sussexes are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. The only coverage the heirs are getting is that they were pissed about the jokes at the BAFTA’s. Tough ass. Harry and Meghan bring the clicks and they shot themselves in the foot completely.

  43. Harla says:

    I’m finding rather hysterical how much the press is pushing this story, they are desperate to whip the public into screaming disapprovement over everything Harry and Meghan do. How is the public so blind to this??

    • Aria says:

      Actually british public mostly of them on Sussex side. Even in bbc public where asked if sussex did something wrong , no one agrees that they did this wrong. Beacuse most in Brits are worried about their money and future and Sussex stepping down and financial independent means they dont have to pay for their work (which they dont Charles did). So many brits are more than welcoming them to crave their path. That’s what makes rr and racist brit (some) lost their mind over this. They can no longer hold them and make them dance to their tune.

    • kerwood says:

      @Marla, the press had a couple of weeks of NBC (Nothing but Cambridges) and probably lost a fortune. The press and the Sussex haters got what they wanted; the Sussexes disappeared and they all died of boredom. Pro-Cambridge sites can’t stop talking about the Sussexes because their favourites can’t cut it. How many articles can even the most die-hard Normal Bill/Keen Katie fan read about Keen Katie’s latest outfit? So the British media are going to milk this for as much as they can get.

  44. pierre lecouteur says:

    MORE POWER TO YOU HARRY AND MEGHAN DO WHAT IS BEST FOR YOUR LITTLE FAMILY

  45. 2cents says:

    Let’s keep it real, folks! Given their high status Harry and Meghan need huge and clean financial resources to support their independent lifestyle and global ambitions. It is only wise that they up their game and meet with trustworthy topinvestors to promote their Sussex brand, be it mental health or women’s empowerment.

    Royals across the world have been investing their private money with help of these topdogs for ages. This is just business as usual. H&M have topnotch legal and financial advisors to guide them through this endeavor. No big deal!

    Great first step, Sussexes!👏👏👏

    • Olenna says:

      Thank you. Ole Queenie invested millions in off-shore funds and hardly a peep from royalists and the low-info Fail crowd was heard.

      • VS says:

        The queen is not black or biracial or Asian or a person of color or….you continue the list…..so she is all good in the eyes of racists and underachievers

  46. MellyMel says:

    Making moves and making money. Nothing wrong with that. I think this was the first of many networking opportunities with banks and well-off individuals to help fund their (H&M) future organization(s) and charities. Just a hunch.

  47. one of the Marys says:

    This comment is exactly my take
    “And if JP Morgan want to pay him a lot of money to make a speech, that is their money, their call.
    People get upset about GBR continuing to pay their security costs etc. Work like this is how they will achieve financial independence. You can’t have it both ways.”

  48. jules says:

    I mean, what did people expect, that they were going to open a bakery or something?

  49. kerwood says:

    I can’t believe that people are calling this ‘tacky’. JP Morgan isn’t the most altruistic crowd on earth but Harry is a member of the BRF, so he’s related to worse people than the ones in that room.

    TACKY is being the future king of England and being taped wishing you could be your side piece’s tampon. TACKY is sitting in a Rolls Royce with your sex offender son, GRINNING like hyenas because his child-trafficker friend is dead. Harry will NEVER achieve the high watermark of TACKY that his family members hit on a daily basis.

    • James says:

      Great whataboutery comment. Just because his family members are tacky doesn’t mean that Harry is not also tacky.

      • kerwood says:

        @James, thank you. I try my best.

        Now if you could explain to me what’s ‘tacky’ about speaking to a bunch of bankers, I might be better able to understand why some folks are getting the vapours about a free man acting freely.

      • Jaded says:

        @James – tacky, in the slang sense of the word, generally means things that are cheap, flashy, garish, gaudy, loud, tawdry, or trashy. So a perfect example might be Fergie shilling for money from a convicted pedophile or having her toes sucked in public by her lover. Tacky is being photographed with your arm around a trafficked teenager who was forced to have sex with you. Tacky is sitting nude on an open balcony giving your husband a beej in broad daylight or wearing such flimsy dresses and butt floss that the whole world has seen your naked butt…multiple times.

        Nothing tacky about old Harry aside from some teenage tomfoolery which we’re all guilty of. Speaking to a bunch of wealthy bankers about mental health initiatives is much more worthy than, say, Sophie Wessex being taped in conversation with her business partner and a fake sheikh that they could arrange for the countess and her husband Prince Edward to endorse various business deals which he pretended he was trying to establish.

    • Nic919 says:

      Andy is doing side deals without cutting himself off from sovereign grant money. Why else would he and Fergie be meeting with the Chinese ambassador with Bea and Edo? None of them are currently working senior royals. Silence on that issue but Harry doing things above board is causing all the pearl clutching.

      • ennie says:

        he was doing shady business for years, even being a hah, and he has that huh in his instagram name , ha!!!

    • notasugarhere says:

      Does anyone else remember Prince Edward’s Royal Knockout? Talk about tacky.

  50. Valiantly Varnished says:

    What’s tacky about telling your own personal story in the context of mental health? Nothing. And if he got paid for it? So what. So do all the celebs who write tell-all books – now THOSE are tacky.

    • Jane says:

      What’s tacky is also being born into a family that viciously colonized and pillaged most of the world, and then expecting tax-payers to fund your lavish lifestyle — exactly what H&M walked away from.

  51. Anne says:

    Some business guy posted on social media last night that Meghan and Harry were going to LA. Oscar’s maybe?

    • ennie says:

      they already debunked that 2 days ago.

    • (TheOG)jan90067 says:

      Doria, maybe? HER MOTHER LIVES HERE. SHEESH!

    • Boxy Lady says:

      If they actually are in LA this weekend, Oscar weekend, I could picture them being at Elton John’s Oscar party, the one he throws for his AIDS foundation every year. Elton loves them and I could see him inviting them to help with their networking. But who really knows?

    • kerwood says:

      If they are in LA for the Oscars, I’m sure they’ll be better received by the film industry than the ones who thought they had the moral authority to lecture the British film industry on diversity, fresh from helping to drive their sister in law and nephew out of the country.

    • morrigan01 says:

      I’ve said they might pop up at an after party. I don’t think they’ll go to the show, but one or more after parties? Sure. Lots of pitching, wheeling and dealing go on at those parties, and I’m sure they are going to start their own production company at some point. Harry’s already got that Apple TV+ thing with Oprah going on.

      Oscar time is a good time to network about such things.

  52. aquarius64 says:

    This could be a networking trip to meet people to help fund their foundation. Harry’s successes with Sentable and the Invictus Games and Meghan’s with the Hubb cookbook and the SmartWorks clothes capsule may have caught the eye of the JP Morgan investors and this meeting was the Sussexes’ entre to them. They could be brainstorming as we speak. As for the ethics I’m certain they are making sure they are connecting to the right people because it reflects on them. The BRF can’t say boo because of the secret and questionable investments made by the BRF, even the queen and especially Andrew.

    The BM are still butthurt that the Sussexes bounced. That coven is so accustomed to dogwalking the BRF, especially the Cambridges. They convinced the Windsors their standing and public good will is relied on doing what we say, marry our choice and barter your kids for photo ops. The media is mad Harry and Meghan refuse to be placed on a leash; and it tries to cheapen the meeting by claiming the Sussexes spent time with J.Lo and A.Rod. So. Last time I checked neither one is a convicted pedophile.

    BTW – the Palace has denied the Yorks’ dinner with the Chinese ambassador was official. Took them long enough to walk that back.

    • L4frimaire says:

      Wasn’t JLo in California at the Spirit awards show, so how could she be in Miami with the Sussexes in same time frame?. Heard ARod was there, but on a different panel from the Sussexes. Maybe they met, maybe they didn’t, who knows.

    • (TheOG)jan90067 says:

      I SERIOUSLY DOUBT Pedo would go to the Chinese embassy and speak to the Ambassador, offering condolences all on his own accord. Man doesn’t have an empathetic bone in his gross body. THIS WAS official, but due to blow-back, has been disclaimed. I’d bet serious cash on it.

  53. Liz version 700 says:

    I don’t think it is tacky at all. They are beginning the financial independence that the Tumbler trolls have been going on about. Princess Diana was his mother. He can’t change that and shouldn’t have too. I am seeing more and more that Harry has been getting mentally strong probably why Will likes to leak about. Him being weak. My family didn’t like it at first when I started imposing some mild boundaries after therapy, my family was not abusive just a bit nuts, but imagine how the abusive folks around Harry felt when he started refusing to be their scapegoat after being such a good target his whole life. A lot of this makes so much sense in that regard.

  54. kerwood says:

    @Doobie, and it was a disgusting violation of privacy.

    But if people want to fling around the word ‘tacky’, then perhaps it’s a good idea to remember that the BRF isn’t some Disney dream that so many people have made up in their heads. These people have been ‘tacky’ from the very beginning and a man earning a living to provide for his wife and son, doesn’t come close. UNLESS that man is Harry and the wife and son he’s providing for are Meghan and Archie. THAT’S when people start reaching for the smelling salts.

  55. TheMummy says:

    Wow. Even after they left to do their own thing people are creating wacky narratives, spewing vitriol, and feel like have any right whatsoever to direct how they live their lives or what they do or how (or even if) they make money. This is insane. They are so hated. No matter what they do it is wrong. They cannot win. They could cure cancer, end starvation, and save the planet and people would still be frothing at the mouth about it.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Yep but the pedo uncle and toe sucking grifter are golden. Got it.

    • VS says:

      They are not hated………the haters are very loud but H&M have an army of people (fans/stans/supporters/friends) behind them who will always support them. I am a supporter so I am more than willing to spend my money on their endeavors………at least they DO something !

      • Margetta says:

        VS, I agree! I’m pretty much permanent Meghan and Harry supporters at this point. And Liz, that’s crazy, right?? How Andrew is now THE royal news and source of royal vitriol is just beyond me. Up is down, down is up, it’s dark at noon and the sun rises in the north and dawn is at 3:30 pm. Crazytown.

      • VS says:

        @Margetta —— personally I visit the Sussexes IG for all accurate news about the Sussexes. I discovered CB when I got amazed by the racism a fellow american was enduring because she dared to marry H and not being bland…….I was so shocked that I became a supporter of Meghan first and foremost and by extension Harry as well……..otherwise I pretty much ignore all other Royal news

        I understand your point; it is just dark; there is fun gossiping and there is just constant attack because of racism/sexism/anti-americanism/hate and envy…….as if every Meghan’s success hurt some people…..

  56. MaryContrary says:

    All of the criticism and articles (they had dinner with JLo and ARod! Harry talked about his mom! Gayle King introduced their speeches! they rode on JP Morgan’s private jet!) just illustrates that they will never not get dragged for what they do/who they are. I have to wonder if they really believed that stepping away from the BRF would ensure LESS scrutiny and criticism.

  57. Justwastingtime says:

    The joke is on the British press. They have made them such a focus that they will have a well-funded freedom soon.

    Instead of the British press just making money off them, they will make money off the buzz the British press created. Eventually the buzz will die down.. but they will still have that nest egg.

    • L4frimaire says:

      And now the British press won’t have any access to them or first dibs on stories or photos. Their events can be private, they can invite or not invite the press, and bar all the Rota hacks. They’ll have to get their news from Twitter,Instagram or People magazine, and no more palace sources.

      • Aria says:

        British media are trying to mess Sussex connection with the donors and jo morgan . Beacuse press most definitely not want to go into jo Morgan beacuse those ppl will finish the British press. We might even dont know what if jo morgan has hand in british press. I think after with jp morgan deal , maybe press may back down from Sussex. Let’s wait and watch. If that happen , the tides will easily turn for cambridges

  58. sj says:

    Ah, the start of the victim tour.
    Nothing like rich, white (and white-passing) people who’ve “suffered” because of some words written somewhere. Meanwhile, people who criticize them get death-threats by their “stans” – which, is shrugged off, because… “if you’re on the internet, you should expect this”.

    • Val says:

      You’ve got some nerve! How about you take your nonsensical rubbish to one of your racist filled mongers site, where you can revel in the whiteness of your favorite inbreeding family? If this tour infuriates you so much, perhaps you should ignore them? Why are you even here any way? I bet the thought of Harry and Meghan gets you excited. It’s probably how you get yourself off.
      Meghan is not white passing, because clearly if she were, her infant would not be depicted as a monkey. It’s something about a powerful black woman that brings anger, could it be because we showcase your mediocrity and that you’ve gotten through life because of the color of your skin?
      Well keep being angry, I’m certain that Meghan and Harry are devastated lol.
      You are an ignorant troll.

    • Aria says:

      Are you denying that Meghan isn’t victim of racism ?? Tumblr troll is here everyone. You Kate stans should focus on Kate beacuse if you and kate does then her charity wont be in a bad position. Bye bye tumblr troll. Karma is coming for brf and cambridges.

      • Olenna says:

        I doubt this one is really a Keen fan. It is here to spew it’s venom against the DoS.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Yeah, @Aria, @Olenna I believe this particular troll showed up fairly recently (I don’t recall seeing them post here beyond the past week). They’ve likely never given a second glance to the royals until Meghan arrived.

      • (TheOG)jan90067 says:

        Let’s be fair. Not every xenophobic, racist troll is a Kate-stan. They can and are awful people all on their own. Just ignore their spewing. They want attention.

    • L4frimaire says:

      Sure, whatever. Keep yourself comforted with that little nugget.

    • GuestOne says:

      Funny how you dismiss insults, slurs against them (light skinned or not fact Meghan has a black mother is main reason for the hate) across international media as mere words but then bring up death threats by their stans on social media…

      Meghan had also received death threats on social media including on royal family accounts& a Buzzfeed journalist mentioned seeing tweets of people wanting to attack her stomach to prove her pregnancy was fake.

      There are also people in jail because of death threats they received so yeah no small matter.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Trolling again? Go back to Tumblr and cry about them there. I’m sure you’ll find great company with the other delusional posters.

    • Olenna says:

      Troll comment from @sj: “people who criticize them get death-threats by their “stans”.
      LOL, @sj. No one is more vicious, vindictive or deranged than those who hate Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. They’ve threatened her, lied about her, ridiculed her and her son, and continue to try to disparage her character in any way possible. So, GTOF with this criticizers being victims BS.

    • ennie says:

      who criticizes them? people who are ugly and sick inside. I hope those who criticize them are well rounded individuals capable of criticizing Pedo uncle, lazy relatives, racist relatives, and the unfair tabloid coverage, not to say, that there’re more pressing economic matters to cry about than this couple.
      I read their insta, and for real, I have not seen one death threat. not one, but I’ve seen a handndful of ugly comments of people parked in their page, instead of moving on to comment positively on other people¡s threads, they are there, hating thread after thread. Totally unhealthy, and you tell me those poor souls get hate?

    • TeamSussex says:

      Sounds like you are the one on the victim tour.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Next time you see a troll like this, remember Kaiser’s request. Just reply with the word ‘troll’ in the subject, nothing else, so she can delete them easily.

    • kerwood says:

      @sj, do you have proof of this? Because I’ve seen the other, the Cambridge supporters and the White supremacists who have threatened the lives of the Sussex family. I’ve also been on websites where posting support of the Sussexes means that you will be abused and threatened. So, I’m curious to know where those dangerous Sussex supporters are.

    • kerwood says:

      @sj, and that ‘white passing’ gave you away. Racism is like having a mad dog on a very thin leash. You have to keep a tight grip or it’s gets away from you.

  59. Blu says:

    The Washington Examiner is reporting this happened in December???

    • Hey Blu — And The Sunday London Times is reporting that Harry said he’d been in therapy for 7 years instead of the 3 years other media are reporting. it was a private event, private speech and I think the press is just filling in blanks as they go along. The poor old Royal Rota is suffering. I see that one of them has actually complained that the Sussexes have not posted this event on their Instagram account. What a bunch of idiots! First it’s they are media whores for having an Instagram account, then it’s they are posting the wrong things on their account, and now it’s we need you to post what you are doing so we can extrapolate our BS stories from it. Team Sussex! 💃🏻

  60. Beach Dreams says:

    It’s hysterical to see a bunch of new posters (and some of the usual suspects) coming here to cry about how “tacky” this appearance was. What’s wrong? I thought you guys were so adamant that the Sussexes would find it difficult to make money. Are you upset that they’re not going the Fergie route like you hoped? 😂

    • GuestWho says:

      The hell mouth to Twitter and Tumblr has opened and they are spilling out to spread the hate and hypocrisy.

      • ChillyWilly says:

        Right? I was just thinking “Where did all these trolls come from all of a sudden? They need to go back to from whence they came, pronto.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Yes, they have descended en masse. Good thing we’re on the lookout for them.

  61. A Guest says:

    Maybe next time, Harry will give a speech to “The International Society of None of Your Damn Business”.

    The handwringing and tu-tuting over everything these two do is beyond tiresome.

  62. Skittlesandkittens says:

    They’re going from ride those coattails for as long as possible.

    • GuestWho says:

      The “coattails” being his own life experience I presume. Whose story is he supposed to tell?

    • kerwood says:

      @Skittlesandkittens, kind of like a man who doesn’t know or work with ANY people of colour, lecturing the film industry about diversity, because it’s a hot topic?

  63. ChillyWilly says:

    I don’t see anything wrong with this at all. Harry talking about his mental health to a room full of people who have the means to donate to mental health services seems like a smart thing to do. And if he got paid then, good for him. They need to make money if they are going to get off the taxpayer’s dime (unlike his pervert Uncle Andy).

  64. AMM says:

    They need to network to have money for the foundation. They need donors and partnerships. I dont see why this is controversial. They met with powerful people and every rich person who was name dropped in the news articles either have their own foundations or are connected to huge charities. AROD works with family members of veterans and a handful of other charities, Magic Johnson has his HIV/AIDS charity, JLO started a healthcare charity for sick children in impoverished parts of LA, etc.

    This wasn’t just Harry popping up to get a check for speaking and leaving. They are attempting to become both financially independent and set up a foundation that can match or exceed what they were able to do with the RBF. Rubbing elbows with rich investors will be part of the job. They arent sitting at home demanding “fans” donate money on Instagram. They are actually working.

    • Le4Frimaire says:

      That’s the thing. They’ll need to network and fundraise, and earn an income as well. Heard some podcaster saying they were disappointed they did something like this so soon because it was making money and not a charity event, and that they should have issued a press release or something. Some people can’t cope with the reality that when they say financial independence, that means getting paid money, even if your main work will be charities and philanthropy. I also think that any other projects that make money, not just speaking fees, will get the same reaction. They can’t deal with Harry, the blood royal, handling filthy money. If it was Meghan, I think people would be like “ if course SHE wants to be the breadwinner”, but heaven forbid her husband earn a check. The Sussexes aren’t the only ones who’ll need to adjust to this new reality, that’s obvious.

  65. Sharon says:

    Page Six lies, Bill Gates arrived in Cape Town on Thursday during the day to play in the Match for Africa 6. Pretty difficult for him to have been in Miami on Thursday night… especially on account of the time difference. @kaiser, you of all should know that as an avid tennis watcher!

  66. Elaine says:

    Jeez the loons are really out in full force here

  67. Lisa says:

    Good for them and I hope they got no less than 500 k

  68. Yami says:

    It’s not tacky to tell the truth about your story.

  69. notasugarhere says:

    So many brand new names on here, all bashing Harry for earning money. So obvious.

    • A Guest says:

      This site is one of few that hasn’t been overrun by trolls and Meghan haters. Posters here actually like her or can at least speak rationally about her.

      And we can’t have that.

      Spending that much time putting out negativity, filth and anger in the world cannot be good for a person’s mental health.

      Perhaps therapy is in order…

      • kerwood says:

        @A Guest, I think celebitchy actually causes some people pain. There are a lot of people here who are REALLY hurting. It’s kind of sad.

  70. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    H&M leave UK due to abuse, racism, misogynoir and endless media savagery.
    Daily Wail: stop funding them with our tax money!
    H&M (Harry in particular) does stand out job at first conference post-Sussexit, creating foundation for an independent life.
    Daily Wail: they’ll do anything for money!

    (NB Replace ‘Daily Wail’ with all suspiciously new usernames + snarky/vicious comments above)

  71. RedWeatherTiger says:

    Not tacky. Smart.

    I read a good article in Forbes about it, which highlights what an outstanding speaker Harry is. I wish these two every happiness and lots and lots of money.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/guymartin/2020/02/07/the-dinner-speeches-heres-how-prince-harrys-new-financial-independence-from-the-crown-will-be-won/#2b6dede68050

    • PrincessK says:

      Thanks for sharing. I think that Harry is going to develop into a first class speaker, he has all the attributes for it. Prince Charles is a marvellous speaker, and holds his audience spellbound with his delivery. Harry will use a different style but can nevertheless pick up tips from his Dad.

    • Thanks for the heads up on the article. It was a terrific read. I liked how the author would always clarify if what was being reported was innuendo or if he actually had info.

  72. Emily says:

    I had hoped their first event that made headlines would be charitable, almost to set the tone for their foundation/future work. With that said, there is nothing wrong with taking this speaking engagement, especially as mental health is a completely on brand topic for Harry.

    • Shoshone says:

      Actually, we do not know that it was not charitable. In fact, we do not know that any money changed hands whatsoever. No one here knows. Maybe they did it for free. If money was paid how much was paid? I, for one, am not going to rely on the Daily Fail for the answers to any of these questions. I think that the fact that it was Harry giving the speech, rather than Meghan, is very interesting.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Meghan has already done two charitable visits in Canada since they announced they were leaving. If those didn’t get as much press as you like? Blame the negative, bashing press who chose to focus on this Harry event instead.

  73. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    I didn’t read all the comments cuz I’m lazy, but I find it hilarious and unbelievably toxic to drag a member of the family through mud for speaking about his mother and mental health but ignore another family member’s pedophilia and human trafficking. I feel like I have to go back to Sesame Street, and scream from mountain tops that one of these things is not like the other.

  74. kerwood says:

    I’m really interested in the people who are so offended by the existence of this site.

    Kaiser hasn’t hidden the fact that she is a supporter of the Sussexes, which is her right because IT’S HER SITE, and that seems to drive some people crazy.

    There are pro-Cambridge sites all over the place where Sussex fans are told in no uncertain terms to get out. I stopped even looking in at those places because I found them so unpleasant. So why spend time in a place you don’t like? Is it because most supporters of the Cambridges don’t REALLY give a damn about Normal Bill and Keen Katie and big-up the Cambridges out of hate for the Sussexes?

    Most of the people who post here REALLY care about the Sussexes. We’re not here out of hatred or resentment or bigotry. That’s what makes it a nice place to be.

    • Gingerbee says:

      Kerwood, agree with you. Even on pro Sussex IG pages, the trolls are still spreading their bile. Why are they even on those pages.

    • notasugarhere says:

      kerwood, the Kate stans have been the biggest bullies in the royal fandom for years, long before Meghan arrived. They bullied Enclave24, KateMiddletonReview, LoveLolaHeart, and many tumblrs offline. They regularly send hate, threats, and suicide requests (WTF?!) to site critical of Kate. They even messed up the Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor’s comment section so badly, that site is no longer publishing new content.

      That is what the Kate stans do – attack, cyberbully, fill the comment sections with nonsense, and try to drive the good sites to close.

      Thank goodness Kaiser and CB hold strong.

    • The people who support the Sussexes are also the ones actually donating to their causes, something the Cambridge fans cant/wont do. I remember during the GlobalSussexBabyShower quite a few posters from here donated. Including me.

  75. StaceyM says:

    The ONLY thing that will satisfy the Bitter Brits would be Harry/Meghan crawling back to the U.K. begging for forgiveness and Harry giving them permission to abuse his wife and first born. Nothing else will appease them. I say good for them and they have a huge American audience cheering them on!!!

  76. Marivic says:

    I will not undermine PH’s value as against Pres Obama. He is in the same league as Obama in terms of appeal and brand value. Maybe even
    more in a global level.

    • Jessica says:

      But only for now. They need to make hay while the sun shines. Once he’s been out of the RF for a few years, people may start to lose interest. They seem to be starting a network and that’s exactly what they need, both for income and their charitable interests. While he’s very privileged, Harry’s loss at a young age and how it affected him is an excellent subject for him to speak about. Admitting to therapy for almost a decade, coming from a family with a notorious stiff upper lip is brave and helpful.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Depending on what happens, they may become more on an international level. Harry has always worked outside of the UK on charity work, and the two of them have global appeal. We do not know what will happen, where this will end, until it unfolds.

  77. Shoshone says:

    Harry and Meghan now have to make a living for themselves. Also, everybody in the U.K. and Canada seem to be loath to publicly fund their security costs so we need to step back and let them work. Do you really think that Charles and the royal family are going to keep giving them substantial sums of money forever? I don’t. I’m also pretty sure that William won’t. He doesn’t appear to be much of a giver.

    We keep hearing about how Harry is worth 40 million or 80 million but we don’t know if those amounts are true. Did he ever actually receive the amounts said to have been willed to him by Diana and the Queen Mum? Even if he did receive the funds was he able to hold on to it? Money can have a way of disappearing into “trusts” and other accounts and investments and I don’t think that prior to his marriage that Harry was particularly attentive to his finances. Since this is a gossip site I have wondered for awhile about Harry’s money and whether or not a possible absence of said funds may be part of the dispute between Harry and William. Possibly William (purely speculation) helped himself to Harry’s inheritance the same way it is said he helped himself to their mother’s engagement ring which belonged to Harry. Marriage and the imminent arrival of a baby would have been an opportune time for Harry and Meghan to get their financial house in order. If expected funds were discovered to be missing it could be the basis for the dispute and ill will. Finally, it was reported 5-6 weeks ago that Harry said something vague about some actions that were illegal. The most likely illegalities that that family would commit ( with exception of pedo Andy) would likely be financial.

    • notasugarhere says:

      As a reminder to all of those who keep on about security costs? Diana had taxpayer funded security *after she left the Firm*, because she was a high-profile target. Harry and Meghan are high-profile targets. The UK government may decide to give them taxpayer funded security for life. The more people complain, the more I’m convinced the complainers WANT something bad to happen to the Sussex family.

  78. Guest2.0 says:

    Some of these comments are ridiculous. I guess the haters really were counting on Meghan doing a reality show or the Sussexes plastering their name on everything to make a living. Guess they thought the Sussexes would be begging and crawling to get back into the Royal Family. NOT. As they said, they were going to work towards financial independence and this is the first step to achieve that goal. So if you mad, stay mad and mind your damn business. Worry about your own finances and leave the Sussexes alone.

    • Jessica says:

      The thing is that they aren’t saints. They are going to do things that will be questionable. They are charting new territory, especially Harry and mistakes will be made and hopefully so will great decisions. There are people who are literally accusing commenters of being trolls and racist because they say they don’t think taxpayers from a country that neither are from should pay millions for their security. I seriously hope no one believed that Meghan would be on a low rent, second wedding reality show. Especially after she was visiting such great organizations during her secret trip to Vancouver. She may be a former lower tier actress, but she’s always been very community, globally and charity minded. Long before she ever met Harry. It seems to be in her heart and something she would have continued whether she had met him or not. More likely she’d do voiceover for a documentary on women’s rights in other countries or something for children, especially now that’s she’s got her own little one. I sincerely hope that they do thrive as a little trio, away from the toxic mess that infects both of their families, but I think it’s really ridiculous to act like they are above reproach in every regard.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Since they will be private citizens, people have no right to get up in arms about how they will earn a living. I’m sure it won’t stop you from complaining though.

        Diana had taxpayer-funded security after she left the Firm, because she was deemed a high profile target. If the government decides the Sussexes are high-profile targets, they will get taxpayer security. That is how it works.

      • Jessica says:

        Exactly where did I get up in arms about how they earn a living?My comment was very positive. Britain should pay for their security costs as Harry is a citizen and a member of the RF and Harry, Meghan and Archie need protection. Regardless of where they choose to live, Britain should foot the bill.

      • GuestWho says:

        I love the damning with faint praise… s/

  79. blunt talker says:

    They are networking with people who have an interest in their charities/causes. The British press and all others can just kiss the Sussexes asses. Listen to what they Harry/Meghan said before they left England-in their Instagram post. Since they are no longer working royals they can work with other people to network. Networking is the key to starting their foundation and they will earn money for themselves along the way. All shitstains in England and elsewhere can go to hell. They have the nerve to complain-intelligent people can see the difference in the way they were treated compared to Prince Andrew-so suck a lemon.

  80. Amber says:

    They will have significant security costs so this makes a lot of sense to me. I hope they made good money.
    I think Diana would be very proud of Harry, all down the line. For his years of military service (the only one of them who’s served in active combat, to boot), for his genuine dedication to his patronages and charitable initiatives, and for his decision to put his family first and protect his wife and infant son from the same harassment Diana herself faced. No one has more of a right to talk about Diana than her own sons do.

    • Really! says:

      @ Amber:

      George VI (then Prince Albert) served at the Battle of Jutland in 1916
      Prince Philip served on battleships in WWII and was mentioned in despatches
      Prince Andrew served as a helicopter pilot in the Falklands.

  81. Deborah says:

    Thanks to Meghan, Harry was able to break from that toxic environment called the U.K. That country drains the soul and robs you of your creativity….NASTY PEOPLE

  82. Gingerbee says:

    it is not tacky to talk about mental health. God , I can’t with some of you people. WTF!!!

  83. Mac says:

    What an ugly comment. No one should suffer or neglect their mental health because other people are facing their own challenges. Also, no one gets to tell someone how to grieve.

  84. Pinkgold says:

    Were you invited to the private event? The folks who invited them wanted to hear his take on the topic. You can stay mad from outside, when you are not even inside the club😂

  85. kerwood says:

    @Liesl, Harry walked behind the CORPSE of his mother in front of the world, to save the face of the woman who stood by and let his wife and son suffer abuse from racist lunatics and then stripped him of his hard-earned military honours. She couldn’t do anything to help them because she was too busy covering for her sex offender son.

    Harry is too decent to tell the FULL story of why he’s had mental issues, but I wish he WOULD.

  86. Taryn says:

    Lots of people who have lost parents and gone through trauma at a young age who his words can help. Would you go up to someone who is hurting from that and tell them to move on? Your comment is gross.

  87. Seraphina says:

    I posted this down below, but him talking about his loss and grief helps others and himself. It’s therapy for him as well. He lost his mother and while he was born with way more than I ever will have or ever dream to understand, she was his MOTHER. Empathy is needed regardless. Maybe we would have less issues all the way around if we exercised more of it.

  88. MJM says:

    You must have been one of those present at the JP Morgan event Lisel – sorry that you had to listen to something you heard about already and are tired of.

  89. Jane says:

    Move on??? From the violent death of your mother? As you build a new family with a baby son and his mother?
    Do I have to stop talking about the death of my dad, too? What are the rules according to you, Lisel??

  90. ennie says:

    oh, my Lisel, were you at the event? How much did you pay?
    How can you be bored and annoyed by something you did not hear at all. Way to overreact.
    They are not living for you.

  91. swirlmamad says:

    It’s really sad to be so miserable and incapable of feeling empathy for other people.

  92. Jaded says:

    Obviously you are in perfect mental health and have never struggled with depression, anxiety or panic attacks, manic episodes, eating disorders, etc. etc. Many of us here have and it’s not pretty. You don’t just buck up and say “I’m fine now”. It’s a long, scary trip to mental well-being and it needs to be done with professionals and professionals are expensive so many are suffering needlessly because they can’t afford treatment.

    Your trivialization of a serious, debilitating illness is cold-hearted and mean.

  93. notasugarhere says:

    Lisel, are you back posting only as lisel now? Or are you also still posting as Lili?

  94. Lady D says:

    I was just wondering the same thing nota.

  95. morrigan01 says:

    It’s not for you to tell or decide for someone else when they should “move on” from the tragedy of losing someone they love. He can talk about his mother and the effect of losing her as much as he damn well wants to, and if people want to listen then they have a choice to do so. Just as you have a choice to *not* listen to it if you don’t want to.

    And maybe you should also pick one screen name a stick with it soon, okay?