Surprisingly, Amy Klobuchar decided to drop out of the Democratic primary just about 15 hours before people began voting during Super Tuesday. It is absolutely bonkers to me that Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Klobuchar both dropped out in the small space of time in between South Carolina and Super Tuesday. What’s not surprising is that Klobuchar waited until Buttigieg dropped out before she announced – there was some lowkey midwestern hostility between Amy and Pete, and many are calling Amy’s withdrawal deliciously petty in that regard, that she wanted to make it clear that she “outlasted” Mayor Pete. Anyway, Klobuchar is throwing her support behind Biden. Ugh.
Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, who entered the Democratic presidential race with an appeal to moderate voters and offered herself as a candidate who could win in Midwestern swing states, has decided to quit the race and endorse a rival, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., according to a person close to Ms. Klobuchar.
Ms. Klobuchar will appear with Mr. Biden at his rally in Dallas Monday night. The decision comes one day after former Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., departed the race, and after weeks of Democratic Party hand-wringing about a crowded field of moderate candidates splitting a finite field of centrist votes, allowing Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont to march forward unopposed among progressives and amass delegates.
Former Senator Harry Reid has also endorsed Biden now, and Reid called his old friend Biden “the candidate who can beat Donald Trump.” I… am not so sure about that. But if Biden is the nominee, I will vote for him. Meanwhile, people are still erasing Elizabeth Warren from the primary narrative and Bernie Bros are still flooding her social media, and trying to “order” her to step aside and (obviously) throw her support behind Sanders. If and when Bernie Sanders goes down in flames yet again, I want all of those bros to know it was because of them. #ChooseWarren was trending for a reason. She’s literally the best candidate, but she’s been erased and undervalued and underestimated.
Also: Mayor Pete and Beto O’Rourke also endorsed Biden yesterday. They all did an event together last night.
Amy Klobuchar sticking in the race just long enough to technically outlast Mayor Pete is the definition of midwestern passive-aggressiveness.
— Steven Hyden (@Steven_Hyden) March 2, 2020
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red and Getty.
I wondered this in 2016 and it’s on my mind again now: why is so much stock given to the democratic primaries in states that will definitely go to Trump in the general? If they won’t get their electoral votes, why put such a high premium on the results now? Shouldn’t the dems just be watching what’s going on in the blue and swing states? Is the democratic establishment just dumb? Am I missing something?
What do you mean, “just watching” yadda yadda?
Do you miss the concept of democracy?
Ouch!
@Vrab
Your tone is so unnecessary and rude. Someone asked a question. Answer and help them to better understand. What a totally unkind way to behave.
The primary schedule has been this way for years, certain states going in certain order. Iowa and New Hampshire were the first two, very small white states. SC is always important because the Democratic population there is largely African American, a crucial part of the Democratic base. All states need to weigh in, we can’t discount red states because one day they may turn purple or blue, as Virginia and North Carolina have been in recent cycles.
Thanks, Minx, that’s a really helpful explanation. In other words, even if the state itself is not going to go to the dems in the general, they use the early primaries to gauge demographic trends across the board…which I think is a bit of an imperfect system, but I get it. It just seems that they should put more weight into the primary results of the states that safely go blue in the general and in swing states. I get that this is a fluid thing. It’d be great if everyone’s primary was on the same day. It’d be less of a horse race.
And VRAB, I’m not sure of the tone of your follow up question…but it sure seemed condescending. I apologize if my question was unclear, but there’s no need to be snarky.
How do you think a party nominee becomes such in the first place? By amassing delegates, and as it happens one of the bluest states is the largest and consequently has the most delegates to parcel around. So of course everybody’s gonna be watching the voting in California. And all other states.
Dan Pfieffer tweeted:
“Biden, Bernie, and Warren can all beat Trump. No one knows which is more likely to do so. People can guess, but they are just guesses.”
I absolutely do not think Bernie can beat trump. I think we will have HUGE numbers of voters sitting out the election if he is the candidate.
@Carey I 100% agree with you. Biden is not my favorite either but he may at least have a chance to get tge moderate vote
“why is so much stock given to the democratic primaries in states that will definitely go to Trump in the general?”
I have to point out…Iowa went to Obama twice before they went for Trump. It hasn’t always been considered to be a “red” state. In 2018, 3 out of their 4 House seats went Blue.
There’s really a push to get behind Old Joe. Debra Messing posted a video on IG yesterday about how great he is. I really hope the DNC doesn’t convince Warren to drop out.
I voted. Come on, Warren!
And to the Bernie Bros (which includes women) with your ridiculous campaign to primary Warren, just back off. She’s not your Senator, she’s mine; here in MA, we, not Bernie, choose our Senators; we just re-elected her in 2018 with 60% of the vote so stop the nonsense about her being unpopular; and, if we were to decide to go another way, we have a fine assortment of potential candidates that does not include some random guy from the Cape. Names like Maura or Ayanna ring any bells?
I’m loving the moronic Bernie supporters who racistly, sexistly, homophobically bullied other candidates (and their supporters) out of the race and are now realising that in doing so, they completely eliminated Angry Grampa’s chances at winning.
Bernie’s only chance at winning the vote was splitting the moderates, and now they’ll coalesce behind Biden. Not my first choice, definitely. But better than Bernie.
I so agree with your assessment.
The other day, I encountered a Bernie Bro-ette on Twitter, who was actually SAYING if Bernie doesn’t get the nod, she and all of her friends and family will leave the presidential vote blank and “vote down”. And this is someone with blue waves and #VoteBlue all over her profile.
I mentioned something about voting her CHOICE in the primary, and then I pointed out that we need to stand together and vote for whomever is the Dem candidate in the general, and implored her to think about this: that by NOT voting for the nominated candidate this is the same as handing a vote to #TangerineTwitler… and OMG…you would not believe the vitriolic filth I got back in reply!!!
I just hit block and moved on. No arguing with Stupid.
You’d think the last election was a huge wake up call to people who voted that way, but nope.
I would believe it. I see them all over twitter and FB. Even down here in Bama they’re on their high horses, as if this state would ever support BS, while Biden might have a chance.
So because you hate the ‘berniebros’ You hate bernie? What about everything bernie stands for? Like Joe Biden wants to cut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, VA benefits. He’s bragged about trying to do it 4 times.
Bernie wants to expand benefits. Warren’s “plan” to address violence against the trans community is to read the names of the dead every year in the rose garden. Bernie wants to provide free access to transition care and a homes guarantee.
In 2010, Bernie spoke on the senate floor for *8.5 hours* in protest of a deal extending Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy in a time when working Americans were reeling from the recession and the housing crisis. Joe Biden wrote the deal…with Mitch McConnell.
A woman shouldn’t have the sole right to decide what happens to her body.”
An actual quote by Biden. Said at the same time when Bernie was out in the streets fighting for women’s rights’ but no lets trash bernie and not vote for him because THe BeRniE BrOs Are evil! (huge eye roll)
@Dopey
That’s how Bernie’s campaign painted Joe, but it isn’t true at all if you look at the context. Joe Biden has NEVER wanted to cut those programs just for the sake of it. He has only ever discussed adjusting it in order to bargain with R and keep it solvent…back when politics still involved reaching across the aisle. Bernie is notorious for refusing to work across the aisle but guess what…he has said the exact same thing about SS! Nobody else has a toxic campaign that’s about to make that video go viral, though.
When was Bernie EVER on the streets fighting for women’s rights? Best I can see is he wrote borderline rape/pedophilia fantasy essays when he was in his 30s…studiously ignoring the wife of his son and not offering child support…
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bernie-sanders-essay/
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2157403-sanders-cancer.html
Honestly, this is only the tip of the iceberg of why I could never, ever support Bernie Sanders unless it comes down to him and Trump. A history of lies, hypocrisy, do-nothing, and grifting.
Full disclosure, I was for Pete Buttigieg but I liked Warren, Klobuchar, and Biden. I can’t stand Bernie or Tulsi though.
@Dopey
Absolutely. He is totally responsible for their vitriol and behavior. If you like what he stands for, there is a clear, honorable choice in Warren. The fact that Bernie has allowed this ugliness to spiral says everything you need to know about him as a person. Also, I 100% hold Bernie and his bros responsible for trump being in office.
Choose Warren. The sexism at play is so maddening. And I really can’t stand the Bernie Bros, which then makes me not like Bernie even more. And I’m worried Trump is going to win again. I know some progressives/Bernie types won’t come out for Biden, and all my former Republican friends are saying they’ll vote Dem unless the candidate is Bernie. I’ll vote for any of them against Trump it doesn’t look good right now.
I’m Warren all the way. Know she won’t get it, but my Super Tuesday primary vote is going to the candidate I want, not the one I will settle for in November.
I’m enraged for Elizabeth Warren. This is…unspeakable. She keeps being erased by the media, the pollsters…
Let’s be honest, they’ve been framing the Biden / Bernie narrative since the beginning. No one stood a chance. They kept pushing for it while mildly talking about Warren’s low scores. The Bernie bros are a nightmare. They call her selfish and accuse her of hurting the party! Their narrative is just the woman having to sacrifice her ambitions for the man. It’s not like she doesn’t have plans!!!
Also, of course Amy let Pete go first. The hostility was not low key lol!
Warren shows how strong the Democratic base lean towards “Of course I’d vote for a woman for president, just not THAT woman, no, not THAT one either”.
Agree. Obviously I’ll vote for whoever gets the dem nom, because we know the alternative, but I live in a Super Tuesday state and every national poll is dismissing Warren. Here’s the thing though: almost everyone I’ve met and know and almost every place I’ve been is a warren supporter. I’ve seen one Bloomberg sign in one yard and nothing about Sanders here. And I live in a very big capitol city. But everyone keeps saying Sanders is gonna take our state. Maybe he will, but from what I’ve observed, we are for Warren.
Agreed on the hostility towards Warren. I read today that Bloomberg was waltzing around Miami and he said something about since there are only 3 people left in the race he’d at least get 3rd. Then someone pointed out that Warren was still in the race and he was like “oh is she really? she didn’t drop out?” That kind of dismissiveness is beyond infuriating. Can you imagine him not knowing (or pretending to not know) if one of the men was in or out of the race?
Can a US citizen just help me with this question: what happens with the delegates former candidates had? Can they choose who they distribute them to? Or the delegates can have their say again ?
Typically, they hold onto them until the convention at which time they can pledge them to whoever they endorse or set them free completely.
Wow ok I had no idea there was a convention ! What a complex system
The reason candidates “suspend” their campaigns instead of officially “ending” them is to hold on to those delegates until the convention.
Thanks for the info! I didn’t even notice this
Warren is the best and only option in my opinion. And that’s why I will be voting for her.
Because otherwise, we’ll be stuck with either these two old men-one who is 78 and has heart issues, or, the one who is 77 and has questionable mental capacity issues.
But somehow those options are better than a woman candidate? GTFO.
Incredibly not-so-fun fact – the youngest man in the 2020 Presidential race is now… Donald Trump.
I’m a democrat and I’ll vote blue no matter who, but, man we’re just the worst. We have a young, diverse party and we scoured the country for the best candidates to beat the worst president in history and we came up with Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden. Ancient old men who have been in government since before I was born and I’m not that young. We deserve the ridicule from the GOP.
@Moco ITA.
As long as Dems retain House and regain Senate, America will be safe.
There was this article on Washington Post showing how important this election is as Supreme Court is in play. If Trump wins, he gets another 2 seats and will turn the court 7-2. Democracy will be dead then and women and non whites will be destroyed.
Focus on regaining Senate as Republicans have 23 seats up for election and we only need 2-3 seats. Trump will be a dummy President even if elected.
That’s a big reason why I will vote for Biden, Bernie, or even (shudder) Bloomberg if I had to. Trump needs to GO.
But I really want Warren. She’s been my favorite from the beginning, I think she would make a great president.
THIS! I do not understand why people do not get this. I will vote for anyone over Trump but I fear he will win. It won’t matter if we regain the Senate. And, I honestly believe because Trump is such a narcissistic baby that if we get the Senate, he will change what he is doing now because he could not handle not “winning”
I think that’s the message that needs to be broadcast loud and clear. Somehow, the importance of the judicial system gets lost in all the rhetoric. Whoever controls the Senate controls the Judiciary. And if people would become aware of the stacking of the courts by Trump & McConnell with a bunch of regressive, right wing judges, maybe folks would get off their asses and get out to vote and stop the damage from happening further. We are so screwed if Trump gets re-elected and the Re- thugs retain the Senate.
I wholeheartedly agree with your statement: If the Dems maintain the house and take the Senate, we can make it through.
I think after Joe Biden won South Carolina he called up all the other candidates and said, “I got cabinet position for you! and you and you! Everyone gets cabinet positions!!” Biden already said that Buttigieg will be in his cabinet, probably Beto, too.
Biden is doing a rally today in Oakland — so I’m guessing Kamala is on the Biden train. If he’s handing out positions let hers be Attorney General or Vice President.
I still want Warren to win. The way she has been erased from the conversation is so, so, so frustrating. Damn our country hates women.
I think Biden is dangling VP in front of Amy. She’s sufficiently knowledgeable & articulate to help offset his off the cuff & foot-in-mouth problems.
Sierra, thank you for pointing out the most important things! During all of this infighting, we can’t take our eyes off of the most important consequences.
lol she was so smugged that she will surely beat trump. lol what happens?
I’m so sad about Warren. She has been completely erased. She is smart, prepared, and ready to roll up her sleeves and get to work. And the conversation is all about Biden vs Bernie.
I’m voting blue no matter who, and my state’s primary isn’t until the end of April, so I’m sure it will all be decided by then, but I keep hoping for a miracle for Warren.
I am voting for her today! And I am reenergized about this race now. At the end of the day I will be so proud to be one of the people who has voted for her.
Mine isn’t until June. 🙁 By the time I get to vote, it’s always down to 1 or 2.
Start lobbying your state to change the primary date. We did that in California. We used to be in June, now we’re in March (today!). It always ticked me off to no end to be voting in a huge delegate state and it felt like it didn’t matter anymore.
Contact your reps and get it started!
Frankly, I don’t know why we don’t have a 1-2 day primary, OVER A WEEKEND (when more people can get out to vote), and make everyone’s vote count at the same time.
@TheOG – we used to be super Tuesday, but we changed it in the hopes that it would get us more attention and more candidates would visit (I’m in Maryland.) That….didn’t work, lol.
Today my state will, more than likely, go to Biden and I have accepted that.
But I will be late to work this morning because I am going to vote for Elizabeth Warren, come hell or high water. And whatever happens tonight I know I will be proud to be one of the people who voted for EW.
It recently dawned on me that I hate patriarchy as much as crony capitalism. I am so tired of voting for men. Warren’s superior plans, intellect, & work ethic are still not enough. I’m trying to come to terms with the aversion to having a woman president in the US. I am trying to accept women denigrating other women for supporting Warren over Bernie. I hope Warren stays in until I can enthusiastically vote for her. Then I’ll vote blue.
Seems like the DNC have sent the message to fall in line and to get behind Biden. I suspect Warren will drop out today or tomorrow. Bloomberg’s ego won’t let him. And no clue about Tulsi because idk why she’s in the race
Hopefully someone will convince Bloomberg that to look like a real statesman he should drop out and stress that he will be putting all that $ into house/Senate races to ensure the 2018 progress isn’t lost. You’re right though- ego thing.
Bloomberg’s ego will ride the wave till the bitter end, have no doubt.
I wish he and Steyer would throw those huge budgets behind all Blue Candidates for all races. My God, just the budget for their tv ads would help tremendously!
Is it the DNC sending the message? Or is it voters, not wanting an extremist like Sanders to get the nomination?
It’s amazing how many people are acting like the black community in South Carolina are a bunch of “establishment” elites dictating who the nominee is. They coalesced around a moderate…which is NOT surprising considering more voters have been backing the moderate candidates this entire time. They were just fractured by the number of moderate candidates.
I understand for the people who have been for Warren from the beginning, but for those of us who had another we put our hearts into, here’s that perspective. Biden last night offered us a dream team. A lot of us really miss Beto. Really. And I know I cried the night Pete gave his speech, Monday? What a speech. I don’t want to lose him. Many women had their hearts with Amy. And my ride or die for was Kamala. And I know Joe is going to be bringing her along too. THey are saving her for the perfect moment.
So Joe offers us the future, even tho yes he is very old. Far from my first choice. But he is bringing the Democratic dream team, the future, our stars, and so many of our hearts, in, and he’s saying, you don’t have to miss them. They’re not going anywhere. They are coming with me. And they will be with you.
So that is just a different perspective to consider, that’s all.
Thank you, Darla!! My heart was for Pete but my head is for Biden, and surely people here should be able to see that, since Warren was barely viable, it was going to become a race between Sanders and Biden?
Pete, Amy, Beto, Clyburn, Duckworth, etc..ALL threw their endorsements behind Biden before Super Tuesday for a reason. They knew we were very close to a Bernie nomination which would more likely lead to a Trump presidency, and they all got together to prevent that. It was really touching seeing the diverse support and energy Biden had behind him. Even if he’s not your “dream candidate”, isn’t that something to be excited about?
At any rate, it’s going to be rather late to keep being “ugh” about it if Biden loses Super Tuesday with too large of a margin and hands the nomination to Bernie….
I don’t get the general apathy toward Biden. He’s spent his life fighting for civil rights and many people I deeply, deeply respect threw their endorsements behind him.
@Darla .. first time responder but I loved this comment. Many of us are hurt that our person hasn’t made it until the end -Kamala 🙁 and I hope we can all work together to create a Dream team to get America back on course.
Not all Californians are big Kamala fans, especially those who remember her in San Francisco & then as AG. She jumped into the I-wanna-be-pres pool after very little Senate experience.
She’s articulate & has some baggage. Letting her sister run her campaign wasn’t a great idea, either. It was poorly handled.
Warren would be a great candidate if elections weren’t so ugly. She has committed a lot of unforced errors like shading Hillary (Trump is too afraid to debate a strong woman) and the DNA test. Biden has issues as well but they are more peripheral.
Agree with this. Am voting for Warren but with a bit of side-eye at her missteps. But whatever, she’s still the best candidate.
So well put. My heart is for Pete but my head is for Biden.
I’ve been for Warren since the beginning, but have pretty much expected Biden would end up with the nomination. If that happens, I’d be very pleased if he recognized some of these people and they could all work together.
Thank you, Darla! MTE!! I was rooting for Kamala, and I would LOVE to see a Biden/Harris ticket! While I think Pete, Amy, and yes, Liz, would make AMAZING Cabinet members, we have to be careful about depleting the Senate of *all* of these D’s voices.
In a partial “dream team”, I’d go this way:
Biden/Harris
Sec. of State or Treasury: Liz
Housing or Interior: Beto (also possibly Energy) or Bullock
Dept of Vet Affairs or Defense: Pete
Chief of Staff: Amy
Justice or DNI: Schiff
Education: Bennett
Commerce: Booker
Homeland Sec: Castro
Interior: Inslee
Anyway.. you get the idea 😊
Those are all good choices, and all the sitting Senators are from states with Democratic governors, so that the Democrats would not lose any Senate seats.
Another suggestion for Interior would be Tom Udall of New Mexico. He’s one of the more passionate voices in the Senate for conservation issues. The main issue I have with either of the Montana Democrats, Bullock and Tester, is that their views on exploiting federal lands and wildlife management aren’t much different than their Republican counterparts. Tester slipped a nasty little amendment into one of the large omnibus bills in Obama’s second term that loosened restriction on hunting wolves and grizzly bears in Montana and Wyoming.
Fantastic comment, Darla. Really well said.
Oh good lord, it’s 2016 all over again.
Yep.
Really, how so? Hillary had a lot of personal baggage that was unique to her.
I think this is more like 2018, where moderate candidates THRIVED under a Trump administration and turned purple and red districts blue across the country.
Illinois votes next week and I will be casting my vote for Biden. I came to that decision after the last debate. I refuse to vote for Bernie. I would vote for Warren but honestly a vote for her at this point – unless she manages to do REALLY well today – is a vote for Bernie. What I think people need to do – which they’ve been paying lip service to since post-election 2016 is listen to black voters. People have been saying “listen to black women” “vote like a black woman” bur we see with SC that a LOT of white Dem voters didn’t actually mean it. Twitter is full of white Dems calling the SC voters low information- essentially ignorant – despite black voters being the backbone of the Dem party for decades.
I am grateful to black voters. High voter turnout, informed choices, every time. In contrast, the voter interviews in Iowa and NH were mind-boggling. I remember one person said they did eeny-meeny-miny-moe on the ballot. I guess if you’re not a minority you can still treat it as half a game.
So much for women having eachothers back.
I support Warren because she really is the best candidate with the most well thought out plans.
Would you really vote for a woman JUST BECAUSE she’s a woman? Isn’t that the B-side of voting for anyone JUST BECAUE IT’S NOT a woman?
In less dire times, we can vote for whomever will be BEST for the job. NOW we need to get behind whichever Dem has the best chance of WINNING. Later, when we have the luxury of choosing by choice, we can do so.
^This^
How did it come to this?! Joe Biden is a creepy hair sniffer who voted for the Iraq war, doesn’t know day it is or what he is running for. What is happening!
The power of old white men, the trust they inspire, is a wonder to behold.
Drumpf’s brain is melting more than Joe Biden. And Joe can undo a lot of the problems people have with him as long as he wins the few swing states that Hilary lost. Which he can because he helped Obama win them. Example: People don’t like Joe Biden because of Anita Hill. If he gets Drumpf out, he can save RBG’s seat. People who vote for the perfect candidate will end up giving the election to the decidedly unperfect candidate, Drumpf.
We do not know that Biden can win; we can only hope. Perhaps his white maleness will be enough to bring out those black men in Milwaukee who sat it out last time. (I’m not talking about all those black people in Wisconsin whose votes were supressed under Scott Walker). Biden comes with disadvantages that people are ignoring, but maybe, after trump, any Dem, and especially an old white male establishment Dem, can unite and mobilize the most.
Double post, I think.
They dropped out to take down Sanders is my guess. They realized they were splitting the moderate vote and risked creating more intraparty fighting. It’ll be Biden or Sanders at this point. I’d have preferred Warren over all, but I’ll vote for whoever gets it. Frankly, my biggest issue with Biden is the same as with Sanders – I don’t trust either of them overmuch when it comes to women’s issues, but I certainly trust Democrats more than I do Republicans on the matter over all.
It was whispered in Democratland Sunday night that Barack Obama had had enough of Bernie and told everyone to get behind Joe. Bernie Sanders is not a Democratic Party member, when it comes down to it, he’s an independent socialist. Biden is the guy who can motivate party members, old ladies like me who can get out the vote on election day. I’d rather be voting for Elizabeth Warren or Amy Klobuchar, but they didn’t have the base to stop Sanders. One of them, or Kamala Harris, will be veep nominee, I think. Whatever, vote blue, not orange.
Also edited to add: Amy waiting for Mayo Pete to drop out before she did was a reflection of her real status- she’s a US Senator who has never lost an election, he was the mayor of a college town who lost his only statewide election. Lots of people in what used to be called smoke-filled rooms got to work in the last couple days.
Mayo Pete, like he is mayonnaise? Ha, I love it (typo or not)!
I’m for Biden at this point. I like Elizabeth but Biden is a unifier and that’s what we need right now. Someone a little boring, a little old, a lot connected and very savvy to the ways of politics. We need to start the healing process and to rebuild our international bonds right now. It’s not the time for anything new or exciting.
And, as ever, I am utterly disgusted by the Berners. The way they went after Mayonnaise Pete’s voters and Amy’s on twitter was something to see. They seemed surprised and genuinely outraged that Amy and Pete’s voters weren’t lining up to join the St. Bernard cult.
He is so foul, and his minions are just as bad. We do not need that sort of polarizing garbage when we’ve already spent the last three years buried in this sort of trash.
Elizabeth is a good candidate but we need a super experienced politician with lots of connections and a thorough knowledge of the scene. Biden isn’t perfect, but he’s close to it for this cultural moment.
Agreed!! On ALL counts!
I’m hoping we find ourselves with a Biden/Kobuchar ticket. American’s have a tendency to vote moderate. Biden has a strong global presence, and I believe he’ll choose and have strength and support from his administration. Kobuchar is bright will learn quickly and be an asset. Joe is smart enough to realize if he can’t fulfill his duties to either step aside or rely on his team.
I wish Biden would announce his VP pick *now*! It would go a long way to assuaging those of us concerned about his age and, let’s face it, dementia. And his out-of-step-with-the-times quality. I want someone younger, saner, and preferably female or POC or both to be his Veep!!!
Bernie isn’t a democrat but Warren who was a republican is? bloomberg is? He votes with democrats most of the time. The fact that Democrats are closers to republicans than they are to Bernie’s policy’s doesn’t reflect badly on Bernie it reflects badly on Democrats. It’s sad how many of you just accept the status quo of the likes of Obama, Biden and Clintons and praise them despite all of the bad things they have done.
“Warren was a republican” is such misleading BS that I doubt anyone that uses it. Her evolution into a massive consumer advocate is so clear and documented. Bernie isn’t a democrat because HE doesn’t identify as one.
I was going to vote for Klobuchar, but since she just dropped out I’ll be moving my vote to Biden. I know that Warren is awesome, I truly think she’d be a great president, but I think at this point in time Biden has the best chance of beating Trump. I hope that someday soon I won’t have to consider politics in this way, but at this point, my primary political motivation is getting Trump out of office.
Also, since the front runners are Biden and Bernie, who do we think their running mate would be?
My bets would be on:
Biden and Harris (though Klobuchar or Butti would also be a good combo)
Bernie and Yang
Yang doesn’t seem very fond of Bernie and has made critical comments toward him in his new job as a political analyst. Their platforms are very different, and Bernie has said he wants someone who aligns with him ideologically for VP. I don’t see that happening.
Yang endorsed Warren when he dropped out so that tells you where his allegiances lie.
Yang said he was with Warren at the very start of his campaign. I understand why people are supporting Biden though. It’s time to coalesce.
Vote Warren!
I was on Team Pete but I’ll vote blue no matter who (I’m a registered Libertarian, too. This election is far too important to me to stick to my guns with a semi-viable LP candidate, if there even is one.)
Well we shouldn’t let two white rural states whittle the field of candidates, that’s for sure. But I’m a little surprised that no one is mad at Warren for her purity test (no super PAC money, which was frankly dumb) that wiped so many candidates out (Kamala and Booker among them) and now she’s taking that money. Not to mention how cavalier she was when talking about laying off 2 million healthcare workers, many of whom are women. I just don’t think she’s great, she simply says popular things. She doesn’t accomplish much legislatively and she’s kissing Bernie’s a$$. I know there will be blowback on this but I just don’t get the love.
Everything you say here.
Elizabeth is a good candidate but she’s not a great one and I really mistrust the way she engages with Bernie.
We’ll see but, as mentioned above, I’m hoping for Biden.
I feel this. I liked Pete and I was angry that Warren attacked Pete shortly after Sanders did. This entire primary race, she seemed to be following his lead and attacking the people his campaign attacked ….until it was finally clear that she is not going to win his voters.
I don’t dislike her but her low-key alienating everyone else has been a fumble.
Those health care workers–who work for a system that allows poor people to die or middle class families to lose EVERYTHING if the wrong illness hits–will have work administering a new, just system. The PAC money is bad judgment on Warren’s part. (Like it was for Obama when he too changed his mind, right?) Booker & Harris were free to run any campaign they wanted.
People think Biden is the best chance to beat Trump because that’s been the media narrative since before campaigning even started. That doesn’t make it true. If Biden OR Sanders is the nominee, it is going to be a disaster for the Democrats and I fear Trump will laugh his way into another term.
I truly don’t get how anyone can watch Biden give a speech or perform in a debate and be pleased with his performance. He can barely string two coherent sentences together. And Sanders literally had a heart attack, declined to release his medical records, and oh by the way, Russia is helping out his campaign, which means they can then tank said campaign if the mood hits.
Everyone think they’re a pundit and are trying to vote strategically instead of for who the actual best candidate is and it is going to blow up in all our faces spectacularly.
None of this is about reality–it’s all spin. If the press decides to ignore Biden’s inanities, they likely will not exist, much like all the rape and harassment charges against trump do not exist. Hillary’s emails were non stop but trump & family use unsecure lines everyday, we know it, & it matters not.
Compare Warren’s DNA test to Biden’s observably failing mind or Bernie’s heart attack & 20-60 trillion dollar economic revolution.
You need to look at polls conducted in actual swing states, rather than the overall head to head polls. (Those overall head to head polls had Hillary winning by a landslide remember) Probably any Democrat will win the popular vote, like Hillary, but it’s the electoral college that matters. Joe Biden is up by the largest margin in the swing states. That’s why I think he is the most electable. I think Joe wants to put other people in strong leadership positions (think Beto and Buttigieg). I could see him adopting parts of Andrew Yang or Warren’s platforms since they have such strong support.
It’s literally a repeat of 2016. They learned nothing and they’re all gonna act surprised when Trump wins again.
I keep hearing Bernie Bros saying this, as if Hillary lost because she was moderate and not because of a number of other things. These people ignore the 2018 elections, where moderate democratic candidates won across the country in blue, red and purple districts.
How can you look at 2016 but ignore 2018?
I’m voting in Alabama today and my husband is the epitome of a privileged southern white man. I forced him to vote for the very first time in 2016, our conversation last night went like this-
Me-you voting before work in the morning?
Him-voting for what?!?
Me-it’s the primaries
Him-primaries for what?!?
Me-the presidential primaries and a few local things
Him-throws his back in laughter and says dear it’s NOT the presidential election tomorrow, *continues laughing and shaking his head*
Me-*rolling my eyes* yes I’m aware and that’s not at all what I said, and you legit have no idea what we’re voting for to the point that you had to ASK ME and now you’re cocky enough to laugh at me thinking I have it wrong when you have no idea wtf you’re even talking about
Him- well that’s because I don’t even care
Y’all, help me not divorce this mf today. Why are men like this?!?
@Jess Leave him.
He laughed at you?! I would have punched him tf out and left.
If I wasn’t pregnant with an oops baby at 38 years old I most definitely would’ve punched him and left!
We’re actually in therapy for things like this, lol. He’s getting better but he has moments like that where I’m just baffled at the amount of ignorant confidence he has in things he clearly knows nothing about.
Start shopping for lawyers. He probably doesn’t even care if Byrne, Sessions, Tuberville, or Moore becomes senator, either.
I voted at 8:15 this morning. I was #26 signing in on the Dem primary side. We’ve got an uphill battle. If you decide to keep him, start educating him-vote straight Democratic!
IMO Kamala Harris was the best candidate. Shame the establishment/ celebrities threw their support behind Biden and buttigieg instead:The media erased and Bernie bros and Trump supporters flooded her social media long before that happened to Warren. Back when warren was the one with all the plans and Bernie bros and right wing media were focused on taking down the only black woman in the race, the media would literally ignore kamalas plans (or Castro for that matter). And warren ( as much as I like her platform) never showed any solidarity with kamala. Back then she was always talking about her “good friend Bernie”, so it’s hard to feel sympathy with her now that the same thing is happening with her. Although I would vote for her over Bernie and Biden I don’t feel like she has demonstrated any sisterly solidarity towards other female candidates.
This primary has been beyond disappointing from all angels
I could see Kamala ending up as VP or AG if she wanted to give up her senate seat, which she can likely keep for decades. She also could end up the presidential nominee in the future. And actually I remember it was the progressive wing under Bernie and Tulsi that attacked her for being a “cop” more than the media or Biden/Pete that got her out of the race.
My point was that Kamala dropped out for funding reasons and the money that could have went to her went to biden ( big donors) and buttigieg ( Hollywood and Silicon Valley).
And Obama already offered Kamala AG, she turned it down so I don’t see her becoming AG under far weaker candidates. As for VP she’s a person who likes to implement change i am not convinced VP is a position that suits her. She’s probably better off building her rep as a senator.
I voted for Warren. Hubby is dropping off my ballot this morning.
My candidate choices never win in the primary. I hope that she wins. She may not, but her message is powerful, and I want her in the cabinet if she isn’t the nominee or if she doesn’t win the presidency. That can’t happen if we don’t support her now. I’m in California.
I’m in FL and I vote in two weeks. I’m still Team Warren, as are many of my friends and coworkers. I do not want her to drop out! But if she does before we vote here, I’ll support Biden without a second thought. I really hate that she’s being erased from the narrative when a bulk of states haven’t even voted yet (including her home state). I’ll guess we’ll see later tonight.
Agreed Melly Mel. And Christina, my progressive primary candidates never when either. But I always vote blue in the end.
At absolutely any other time I would vote for Warren. But we need someone to beat Trump and I just don’t think this is it. I voted for Biden. I don’t care if he can’t complete a sentence. We need someone who actually has a chance to beat Trump. Too many people are afraid of what a Sanders presidency will look like and I just don’t think he can win. Even Trump is afraid of Biden. I don’t think I can handle another 4 years of this crap.
“#ChooseWarren was trending for a reason. She’s literally the best candidate, but she’s been erased and undervalued and underestimated.”
Just like every woman in the history of anything. I’m sick of it.
I see a lot of people saying Liz or Amy for Biden’s VP. So, I am really curious about this. YOu really believe an all-white ticket is cool anymore? I Don’t. And I’ll tell you, Biden has Jim Clyburn to thank for even being in this. Clyburn lifted this man up and put him back in the game. So did the S Carolina Dem AA primary voters. So, no I’m sorry. I personally feel his VP has got to be an AA woman. I would say Harris, possibly Abrams, possibly even Susan Rice. Just my guess and my view. You cannot keep depending on AA votes to elect dems, and then keep nominating all white tickets. Like, that just don’t fly sorry.
As a so white it’s blinding white girl… I wholeheartedly agree Darla. It is time for a ticket that looks a whole lot more like America does. Female and POC for sure for VP, and if they can’t handle that it needs to be one or the other, preferably Harris, or Abrams, but if not them, Castro or Booker or SOMEONE … ANYONE that isn’t a white dude.
I will sh*t a chicken if it is two old white dudes running. I mean I’ll hold my nose and cast my ballot, because I think the supreme court issue is really the biggest deal in this election and could affect female and minority communities for generations…. But I won’t be pleased.
I’m sorry Susan Rice’s brand is toxic, like Hillary’s. She also has never been elected to public office before so she is not qualified to be VP, especially compared to someone like Liz or Amy. I’d be good with Kamala, Liz, or Amy.
I’m voting for Warren today.
Buttigeg and Klobishar are centrists; staying in the race for Super Tuesday meant risking Biden’s win as he is a centrist, too. Warren is expected to peel voters aways from Sanders as they are both progressives.
In terms of the Bernie Bros, I.expect they’ve been riled up by Russian election trolls and aimed at Warren’s social media. But she persisted.
IMHO Bernie ihas great aspirations. But he has no plans to enact his vision. Nor would be use any of Warren’s plans because she isn’t hardcore enough.
2020 : the year two old men argued over whose dementia is less bad for the country.
We need to do away with the Iowa Caucus, as well as all the other early primary states, and have ALL states voting on Super Tuesday. It’s just absolutely wrong to have people early voting and then their candidates aren’t even in the race a month later.