Joe Biden pledges to choose a female VP & appoint a black woman to SCOTUS

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I might be a self-isolating hermit looking for good stuff to watch, but even I was not interested in watching last night’s audience-free Democratic debate. I think the debate should have been canceled overall, not just because Bernie Sanders needs to get out of the race, but also because it’s the height of “do as I say, not as I do” to have these old men traveling around the country, interacting with thousands of people a day during the coronavirus pandemic. Anyway, I’m sure the Bros will tell me that I missed tons of “good parts” of the debate, but here’s the only thing I care about: Biden pledged that he would choose a woman as a VP. He also said he would be the first president to put a black woman on the Supreme Court, and that his cabinet would be diverse/inclusive.

When asked about Biden’s pledge and if he too would commit to choosing a female running mate, Sanders just said “in all likelihood, I will… For me it’s not just nominating a woman. It is making sure that we have a progressive woman — and we have progressive women out there.”

I saw some people saying that Sanders “hedged,” and while it’s not the kind of pledge I would want, that’s not my biggest concern. My biggest concern is what kind of Susan Sarandon/Tulsi Gabbard/Jill Stein-looking woman he would consider loyal enough for the unhinged bros. The bros would still throw a fit about it, let’s be honest.

As for Biden’s pledge… it made me happy and I think he will choose a woman as his running mate (meaning, I trust him, he made the pledge and he’ll follow through). And it’s that simple for me. I feel like he has two choices: Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren. Both would be amazing.

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  1. Rapunzel says:

    Warren had a pandemic response plan. That’d be good for combating the ill preparedness of Trump.

  2. isabel says:

    It’s not going to be Warren, because the MA governor is (R) and would get to appoint her temp replacement, and f-ck that. It doesn’t make a lot of political sense to pick Harris (CA is going blue anyway) either. I would LOVE for it to be Abrams, but I don’t know if the electorate is ready…so we’ll see. I think there are some lesser-known names being floated as well.

    • Lightpurple says:

      Please just stop. Please. I see this argument all over the place and it is just not right. Yes, if a MA Senator leaves office during term, Republican Charlie Baker gets to appoint a TEMPORARY seat holder. State law requires there be a special election and the temporary seat holder cannot run for the seat. Warren was re-elected a year and a half ago with 60% of the vote. I can’t even remember who the Republican was. Markey is up for re-election now and his strongest opponent, it seems his only opponent, is fellow Democrat Joe Kennedy. There’s no Republican in sight and doubtful there would be a viable one a year from now, especially with what would be a strong field of Democrats jostling for an available Senate seat.

      • isabel says:

        Lightpurple ok you right! I did say temporary though. But either way I doubt he’ll pick a VP from the same geographical area he’s from, just makes no sense.

        To add to the Bernie thing, saying it has to be a “progressive woman” just means he’s not interested in expanding his base, at all. Which isn’t really a strategy that’s working for him, honestly.

      • FC says:

        A LOT of bills can get passed during a temp’s tenure. I guess you could weigh that for that to happen it would mean Dems would have the presidency (and likely/hopefully still the House).

        I agree that Warren can’t and shouldn’t be wasted as a VP or cabinet member out of fear that MA won’t elect a dem replacement. I suspect a lot is happening behind the scenes up in MA to prepare Kennedy.

  3. Snappyfish says:

    Kamala Harris & Anita Hill. I would love the latter as it would get rid of Thomas. He would run for the door at break neck speed. I actually have always wanted Biden to appoint Obama to the SCOTUS. He is a constitutional lawyer.

    I see Warren in a cabinet position, treasury, commerce or education would all work well under her.

    • B n A fn says:

      I’m just putting this out there to hear what others has to say. How about Hillary? Biden would serve one term, Hillary runs top of ticket, is this crazy.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        I get what you are saying, but no, for so many reasons.
        She could totes have a cabinet position, though.

    • ATLMathMom says:

      Obama on the SCOTUS would be amazing. We can dream!

      • B n A fn says:

        Yes we can!😊

      • Kristina says:

        I really love Barak Obama (or Michelle! She’s also a lawyer!). But would he take it? Him being on it would make me soooooo happy, but I feel like he’s been clear that being pres wore him down so much and he didn’t want to do anything like that again.

    • Sandy Eggo says:

      Anita Hill on SCOTUS?! That would be brilliant! And it would go a long way (I think anyway, but it’s not up to me to determine) to right the wrong that Biden did to her during the Thomas hearing. And Barak (or Michelle??) on SCOTUS would be just as perfect. Let’s get all three! LOL

      I’m not a fan of Biden, but it looks like he’s going to be the nominee. And I do feel a decent amount of confidence that he would make way better picks for cabinets and whatnot than Bernie.

      • Anna says:

        Horrific for her, though. Any consideration for the fact that that would mean Hill sitting *forever* on a job/SCOTUS with her former abuser and after the horror she went through to stand up to him?

        Just because a Black woman–and Anita Hill in particular–could do something to help this cesspool of a nation, doesn’t mean we have to or should. I say, let Black women decide what is right for them first since no one else ever does. Think about the horror we face and maybe how saving the fucking nation harms us.

        I just…no.

  4. BUBS says:

    Every time I hear “Supreme Court” I immediately think about the amazing, indomitable Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (warmly referred to as The Notorious RBG). I find myself praying earnestly for God to keep her in health and strength. She’s already 87, but I hope she stays strong and sees out this hellish presidency. You know Trump is just itching for another empty seat to fill with another right winger. God protect RBG! And when the time comes -hopefully further down the line- may the WH have a different occupant who will make the best choice and select a justice that upholds the right values for the benefit of all!

  5. Nev says:


    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      She was my number one.
      I’ll cast for old Biden, as long as Kamala is his VP.
      He sure as hell isn’t going to be fit for a second term. An incumbent VP is very important.

      She must be his pick. He listens to Clyburn. Clyburn’s first pick was KA MA LA.

  6. minx says:

    Kamala, for sure.

  7. Sierra says:

    Kamala as VP, Amy as Chief of Staff, Pete as National Security Officially, Sally Yates as AG & Elizabeth as treasury secretary.

    Lastly Mother Nature as Supreme Court justice 😆

  8. sa says:

    “For me it’s not just nominating a woman.” He doesn’t have to pledge it, but that’s a jackass thing to say. It’s not “just” about nominating a woman for anyone, including voters who are ready for a female President, or else Tulsi Gabbard would have picked up votes after Warren dropped out. Pledging to choose a woman does not mean opening a phone book and pointing, of course the woman’s politics and qualifications are part of the decision.

    I got about half and hour into the debate and had to turn it off, because the more either of these men speak, the less I like them (but I will still vote for one of them for President). I recorded the rest, so I will get through the whole thing at some point.

    I wanted Warren as the nominee, but I prefer Kamala Harris over her as Biden’s potential running mate, just because I think we need someone under 70.

    • Esmom says:

      I agree, that was a sh^tty implication from Bernie. He was in a mood to pick fights about votes that happened decades ago, which just felt wrong given the crisis we are currently trying to deal with. At least Biden understood that and tried to stick to the present moment, at first at least.

      • Snappyfish says:

        The problem with BS Is he doesn’t understand how to govern. Or how getting things passed works. He’s very much “If I don’t get my way I’m gonna take my ball and go home.” The choice between Biden and BS is simple as this…a horse versus a unicorn. I would love to have a unicorn they’re lovely & beautiful & sparkly BUT mythical. Horses are all of those things but they are REAL. Wishing for perfect purity is great except it doesn’t get things done & people’s lives aren’t improved.

        But Gulfstream grandpa is a millionaire & no matter what happens he and Janie are going to be OK & will continue along w/their grifting ways

    • minx says:

      The sooner Sanders drops out the better. Tired of him.

  9. VS says:

    It will not be Warren. She is from MA

    Joe is my candidate and has been for a while. He is a centrist and a realist; some in my family who are more on the conservative side, will vote for him. I will vote for Bernie if he is the nominee even though some of his policies are a NO from me.

    Anyone of them is better than the orange and incompetent man we currently have sullying the white house.

    The VP I think should be a from a swing state. I know a lot have mentioned Stacey; she is from GA and that’s a defacto red state; additionally the work she is doing with voter rights is critically important in this climate
    Kamala Harris is from CA; that’s a blue state, can she help him win OH, MI, PA or FL?
    I am very curious to know whom he is considering as a running mate

    • Sandy Eggo says:

      The other VP name I’ve seen bandied about is Val Demings. I think she’s from Florida?

      • VS says:

        yes, she is FL. She is not well known nationally so I wonder how that will fly…….I am thinking of Amy K although she is MN. Joe is well known so he can go with someone who is more low profile……..after all Mike Pence is the VP of the USA; we can’t do worse than that!!! ohhh I just forgot that Sarah Palin was worse……….

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        She is a former police chief, I think. A clear thinker, a real star in the House trial. She. Was. Impressive.
        She could be AG material, with her ramrod straight spine.

  10. Lucy2 says:

    I didn’t watch either, but I hope after this both of these guys stay secluded for a bit.

  11. edubs says:

    No no. Not kamala. MICHELLE OBAMA. seriously. Think about it. A BIDEN-OBAMA ticket. Then imagine Biden getting too old and having to resign and we have MADAM PRESIDENT MICHELLE with BARACK as first dude. Can you imagine?? Barack hanging out in the gardens, meeting with kids, shooting hoops, not worrying about the national security risks. “Michelle’s got it.”

    Biden mentioned he would consider her as veep as recently as January. I think kamala would be a great atty general, not veep. Otherwise that would only encourage the same base that would already vote for Biden – you need to expand it. But we need Michelle – that would drive voter enthusiasm through the roof.

    • Bri says:

      Michelle doesn’t want to (or at least last was rumored) and to be honest, she shouldn’t have to save us. She gave way more than enough.

      • Anna says:

        Thank you. Let Amerikkka save it self. Black women are sick and tired of being the f-ing workhorses for this country for nothing, in fact, for worse than nothing.

    • Yvette says:

      Unfortunately, Micelle Obama has said that she will never be interested in running for public office. After everything her family endured, I don’t blame her.

    • Lucy2 says:

      Michelle doesn’t want it, has made that very clear, and I don’t think people should try to pressure her into it, she’s done enough. But it is nice to dream, isn’t it? She would be amazing.
      We were talking about this at work and jokingly said Barack Obama should be the VP pick! Can you imagine? It would be such a landslide, it would be awesome. We also discussed Hillary, and while she would certainly do a good job, I’d like to see it be someone a bit younger and a bit more progressive.

      • Anna says:

        Why is Barack Obama’s name being bandied about as VP? Who in the history of US Presidents has gone from President to VP? Seriously smdh This is just…nonsense.

    • minx says:

      Michelle has served her time, let her enjoy her life.

      • Esmom says:

        Yes, and it’s not like she’s sitting on her ass. She and Barack are clearly committed to giving back in other ways. Which is something the Trump family never has and never will understand.

  12. Mrs. Peel says:

    Klobuchar would be an excellent running mate for Biden. I thought she was very impressive throughout her campaign.

    • Tina says:

      I agree. She would help Biden with the Midwest swing states. And she is very qualified and helped pass the most bipartisan legislation in the Senate. But if Jim Clyburn wants a Black woman than I guess she’s out.

    • Discharge says:

      Klobuchar didn’t know who the president of Mexico was.

  13. KellyRyan says:

    Biden, Klobuchar for the win. Warren is too dynamic to take a second position. I can see Kamala negotiate a position in the next administration, Secretary of State.

  14. FC says:

    I love Kamala and thought she was his choice until he said he’d appoint a black supreme court justice. She could be his pick for that, and his announcement of that right now could be his way of signaling Kamala stans that will be pissed at him for not choosing her for veep. If not Kam for VP, I hope for Katie Porter or Stacey Abrahams.

    • sa says:

      If Biden chose Katie Porter, I would take back every bad thing I’ve said about him since he announced he was running. I never say I’m a “fan” of a politician. I support some politicians and don’t support others, but I’m not a “fan” of those that I support, donate to, or vote for. I’m a fan of Katie Porter.

    • holly hobby says:

      There are plenty of impressive African American female judges in the Circuit and District level. He can promote any one of them. There is a ruling record in place too so she will pass muster in Congress faster than an untried attorney.

  15. Jess says:

    Tammy Duckworth would be great – from the Midwest, a woman of color, and a vet. Either her or Stacey Abrams.

  16. Valiantly Varnished says:

    Theres only one name for VP on my list: Kamala Harris.

    • June says:

      This. I think Biden has already asked Kamala anyway. Tomorrow Biden will win four more Primaries and my guess is that BS will stay in the race.

      • sa says:

        I kind of think so too. Or if not actually asked her, at least decided on her. I question whether he would have made that pledge if he didn’t already know who he would choose.

  17. Imogene says:

    If something were to happen to Joe while in office (given he is basically an octogenarian), I really don’t want this to be the way we get our first woman president. I mean, of course I’ll be happy about this, but victory will seem so much less sweet.

    • bluemoonhorse says:

      The best way to get a woman as P is to have her as VP for one or two terms. This would instill confidence in the public and is the way the party should have approached this from the get-go. JMO.

      • Imogene says:

        I agree – just remarking that a woman being VP then having to take over as P because the president dies or is incapacitated will make the victory seem less sweet. I want that Obama Chicago park acceptance speech for our first woman president. I don’t want that LBJ plane swearing in, chaos, and drama – just my opinion.

  18. Rapunzel says:

    Klobacher got VP
    Warren for Secretary of Finance or Treasury
    Kamala for AG.

    Anita Hill for SCOTUS to make up for his nonsense during that scandal.

  19. Tiffany says:

    Bernie, ummm, you could have just said no.

    Because, I don’t believe you.

  20. MellyMel says:

    Come on Kamala!

  21. Northstar says:

    I supported Amy Klobuchar even before she announced. She would be a fabulous and strategic choice.

  22. FHMom says:

    I really enjoyed the debate last night. I wish more people had seen it. It gave me confidence in Biden.

    • B n A fn says:

      I believe that was one of the better debate I’ve seen in a long time. Biden was very good, appeared presidential. Bernie was also good but Biden was better.

    • BorderMollie says:

      Really? It was the first one I watched fully and I thought he was a rambling mess. His weird way of stumbling off on inaudible tangents at the end of his sentences is especially annoying.

      • B n A fn says:

        We see and hear what we want. When I see #45 I see a lying, bumbling idiot. Today he gives him self a ten in the way he handles covid 19. When his sheep’s see and hear him they see a stable genius. To each his own.
        Btw, under #45’s watch, today was the worst day for the stock market in history. Wonder what he’s going to tweet out later, I’m waiting for him to blame Obama.

      • BorderMollie says:

        Yeah, but Trump has everyone conditioned to expect the worst. His eventual opponent will have to do a lot better or he wins by default. If Biden is to be that opponent, he’ll have to really, hugely pull his act together, imo.

  23. adastraperaspera says:

    Sorry, but I am sick of these bogus claims by Sanders that one Democrat is more “progressive” than another. The whole aim of Sanders, Our Revolution and the Justice Democrats is to drive a stake through the heart of the Democratic Party. We are a big tent party. We don’t have purity tests. That’s why we chose the term “pro-choice” for instance–the key word there is “choice.” I say this as someone who has voted for Democrats since Carter in 1980. I’m also a lesbian who waited longer than I’d have liked for legal marriage–but guess what, it was Joe Biden who finally forced Obama’s hand! United we stand, divided we fall.

  24. Duch says:

    “ I feel like he has two choices: Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren. Both would be amazing.”


    There’s a lot of good choices out there and Klobuchar is top of the list. She’s good on policy, she broadens his base nationally by bringing in likely voters (sorry but college aged voters do not vote like other pop groups), and she delivers MN, MI. Plus ready and good on debate stage and the national stage (to be fair so are LW and KH).

    Having said that I will vote Biden no matter who he picks as VP, but don’t see why AK was so summarily left off your list, Kaiser!

  25. bluemoonhorse says:

    Sally Yates. Look her up if you don’t know who she is. Or if not VP, she’s appointed the head of the DOJ.

  26. bluemoonhorse says:

    Mazie Hirono – an amazing Hawaiian senator.

  27. Darla says:

    Kamala said no to Obama for AG. He offered it to her. I don’t know why mostly white women keep insisting she is going to say Yes to Joe. You don’t say no to Barack Obama and say yes to Joe Biden. So this isn’t happening.

    Next. Biden owes AA’s his nomination. Period. Bar none. If he nominates a while woman (I’m white btw), it would be incredibly stupid.

    Next. Biden is very old. It is imperative his VP be viewed as someone who can step in. Stacy Abrahams is not qualified to be President at this date.

    Next. California is a blue state Kamala can’t help bring any states. White thinking at it’s finest. Kamala can and will excite and get out the AA vote in all states, including swing states.

    If Biden’s smart it will be a black woman for VP. I lean towards it being Kamala for reasons stated above. Jennings is fantastic but doesn’t have the name recognition.

  28. Suz says:

    It should be Abrams, she’s young, pragmatic, a natural leader and a great candidate. Then make Warren Treasury Secretary, a Job for which she is uniquely qualified and at which she would excel. Kamala Harris would make an excellent AG. There’s his cabinet right there.

    Do the right thing by doing right by women this time around, Joe. It will help you get elected and seed the country’s leadership with a new generation of talent.

    • Pilar says:

      I wouldn’t say it SHOULD be Abrams. She brilliant but kamala, Keisha Lance Bottoms, Susan Rice, Val Demings and Marcia Fudge are all arguably more experienced and like Joe said he would pick someone who is ready to go at day one. With re to Kamala she doesn’t want AG, she turned it down twice under Obama.

  29. Shannon Brown says:

    Biden’s desire to rebuild the Obama coalition is a mistake, IMO. The younger populace won’t be motivated enough to vote for him. He needs to run a “centrist” campaign, and ignore the Obama coalition because he will barely get 40% of that turn out.

    My theory….Trump has a 60% chance of re-election because he is firing up his base.