The Sussexes already moved to LA, they’re living in a ‘secluded compound’

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex arrive at the Albert Hall for the  Mountbatten Festival of Music this evening 7 - March - 2020

Well! Every major news and gossip outlet has been running stories for two weeks about what the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s life is like in Canada, where it was widely assumed that they were still staying in the same Vancouver Island mansion. As it turns out, they traveled to California before the state’s stay-at-home order and shutdown. They’re now in Los Angeles, riding out the pandemic:

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have left Vancouver Island in Canada for the U.S., a source tells PEOPLE. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex moved from the home they were staying in on Vancouver Island and are now settled in the U.S., the source says. They are in Los Angeles — Meghan’s hometown. They have been living in a secluded compound and haven’t ventured out amid the coronavirus pandemic.

A representative for the couple had no comment. Although the couple and their 10-month-old son Archie had been living in Canada since announcing they were stepping back from their royal roles in January, sources told PEOPLE that they had been making plans to spend time in L.A. Meghan, 38, has a big support system in L.A., including her mother Doria Ragland, who works as a social worker and yoga instructor, and several friends who visited the couple on Vancouver Island.

[From People]

A secluded compound? Why did I think of Brad Pitt immediately? I have no idea, other than the fact that he owns tons of property in LA, and I believe he has several properties in a gated community in Los Feliz. But honestly, tons of people have secluded compounds in LA. We don’t know where they’re staying and I’m glad.

Meanwhile, the news about the Sussexes’ move came too late for the Daily Mail. Before People Mag’s exclusive came out, the DM ran their own exclusive about how EVIL MEGHAN was making all of her many Vancouver Island mansion staffers wear gloves and masks and she told people to leave their shoes and coats outside. They basically made Meghan sound like she was taking “extreme” precautions. In Canada. How dare she! They also made it sound like “Meghan is making Charles’ diagnosis all about HER, because she’s a diva and a bad employer who makes people disinfect her precious avocados of death.” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And finally, we knew this was happening already, but don’t let that stop the wave of breathless reports about the Duchess of Sussex scoring her first “post-royal” job. Last year, Prince Harry spoke to then-Disney honcho Bob Iger at the premiere of The Lion King – they spoke about hiring Meghan to do some voice work. Disney hired her quickly and Meghan donated her paycheck to charity. The project? Meghan narrates DisneyNature’s Elephant, a documentary following “Shani and her son Jomo as they journey across the Kalahari Desert with their herd.” The documentary is available to stream on Disney+ on April 3. Here’s the trailer:

Animal documentaries are always a bit fraught for me because I’m always like “OH GOD something terrible is going to happen to this poor elephant/penguin/lion and then I’ll have watched this entire thing and everyone DIES!” Don’t get me wrong, I love PBS Nature and all of that, but when they follow one particular animal for so long, I just get too worried. But it’s Disney, so nothing bad happened, right? RIGHT?

Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex at 'The Lion King' premiere in London

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  1. Erinn says:

    “But it’s Disney, so nothing bad happened, right? RIGHT?”

    Girl! Disney brought us Bambi, and Old Yeller, and literally drove lemmings off of a cliff for a documentary back in the day. I wouldn’t rely on them for making sure nothing bad happens hahaha.

    • Harla says:

      Omg, stop! Please!! That’s it, I’ll cover my eyes and listen only. Or have my husband watch it first and tell me if it’s safe.

    • rawiya says:

      I was just about to post, “K, they shot Bambi’s MOM in the first 5 minutes; they knocked off Mufasa; Disney will kill your parents and have you bopping to a catchy song while they do it!”

      • Marie says:

        Do not forget Pinocchio where they turned kids into goats. I’m still traumatized over that.

      • H says:

        As a child I started screaming in the theater about Bambi’s mom dying, sobbing hysterically. My mom had to take me out of the theater. Don’t trust Disney…but I love elephants and dolphins. Decisions.

      • North of Boston says:

        And also don’t forget Pollyanna, where a child is orphaned (of course… it’s Disney, where the only parent is a dead parent).
        Then the child is locked in an attic, sneaks out to go to a carnival, falls out of a tree trying to sneak back in and is paralyzed. Happy happy!

      • M.A.F. says:

        that’s the premise of Pollyanna?! wtf?! I thought it was about a do-gooder child.

    • Sierra says:

      Totally forgetting Lion King which traumatised children when it came out…

      • Jerusha says:

        Bambi was my first movie at two yo. It traumatized me. Seven decades later I still remember the forest fire, Thumper’s foot banging out a warning, the crack of the rifle, Bambi’s mom. Haven’t watched it since.

        And I can’t go to dog movies. I’m afraid they’ll die.

      • hoopjumper says:

        Jerusha, I’m the same way. There is a website: I have found it useful.

      • Redgrl says:

        Anyone remember The Yearling? Don’t think it was Disney but oh my God that was traumatic. It used to play fairly regularly on TV. I saw it when I was around 6 or 7 and I remember crying in my bed afterwards. My mother peeped her head in and I remember her saying to my Dad “see! I told you she shouldn’t have watched it!” They didn’t let me watch Old Yeller whenever it was rebroadcast after that experience!

      • Jerusha says:

        I skipped The Yearling, Old Yeller, Where the Red Fern Grows, My Dog Skip, all of them. Can’t do it. Had I known about Daisy beforehand, I might have skipped John Wick, despite my love for Keanu.

    • Jerusha says:

      The old Disney movies were filled with dead mothers or evil stepmothers. Has anyone written a biography of Walt that delves into his mother complex?

      • Melody calder says:

        I thought the story was something like…. when disney first made his money he bought his parents a house. The house had a gas leak and killed them (or maybe just one). He pays tribute by parents dying in his movies.

      • Jerusha says:

        Just googled it. His mother died, age 70. Might explain some themes.

      • Unchatenfrance says:

        Actually the dead mother trope comes from the fairy tales that Disney sourced, it’s not something Disney invented. Not having a mother/parents is a prerequisite to allow the characters to have an adventure. There wouldn’t be much of a story to tell if Hansel and Gretel weren’t sent off to the forest by their father and stepmother.

      • pearlime says:

        Disney did not come up with the evil stepmonster / dead parents stuff on his own – its in the original fairy tales, a lot of them collected by the Grimm brothers.

      • Jerusha says:

        Yes, I know all that. I read all of Grimm and Andersen when I was a child. But, Walt was definitely drawn to those themes.

      • portlandjan says:

        I went bugnuts seeing Bambi’s mother shot at age 7. My grandmother finally convinced me that she was taken to an animal hospital but it took her 4 hours to get that far.

    • Evie says:

      I still have not gotten over Bambi’s mother and Old Yeller!

      • I’m with all of you and Kaiser, too. I’m still traumatized by Bambi and Old Yeller….Disney goes there every time! I watched the ad yesterday and thought, well, I’d love to watch this but what if the elephant baby dies or something. I get too attached. REQUEST: Will any brave Celebitchy who watches it, report back here and let the rest of us know if it’s ‘safe’ for us to watch without tearing our hearts out? 😘

        On the relocation: Guess Meghan is not fostering that black lab named Cole after all. 🤦🏻‍♀️ I’m sure that will be a great sorrow for all those DM readers. UmmHummm, that DM source sure got that plot line wrong! I love, love, love the Sussex Stealth Operations and how these operations constantly prove —- as Ygritte says in GOT —- “You know nothing Jon Snow.” Like Jon, the Rotten RR know nothing about the Sussexes real lives until after the fact. Team Sussex! I imagine them all scrambling for their spellchecks to quickly amend their fictional BS storylines from Vancouver to Hollywood, even though it’s highly likely —- 💯%—- that they are in a posh suburb in the Los Angeles area, the RR is going to make this all about Meghan dragging Harry back to her ‘straight outa Compton’ past.

        And —- PS —- isn’t it interesting that original information was reported by none other than KP mouthpiece: Wooten.

    • Mabs A'Mabbin says:

      Disney must’ve done something because for all my bluster about horror, sci-fi and fantasy, I can’t watch anything about animals. I was stupid and started Togo, after realizing what I started, I had to shut it down. Tears we’re welling , and it was only showing how they tried to get rid of the runt from the start.

      • Erinn says:

        Man, I’ll cry over animal commercials! There was some video game my husband had watched a trailer for – I think it was called Ori or something. And I was SOBBING watching it. It was SO pretty but it’s the SADDEST freaking story line and it only gets sadder.

    • Traveler says:

      I am with all of you. I just can’t watch anything where animals are harmed in any way. I’m horrified and live with those images forever.
      Can’t do it.

    • Mle428 says:

      I was going to say, I’ve spent more time in quarantine boo hoo-ing at f*$&ing Disney movies!! My kid loves Onward and Frozen 2. *grabs tissue*

      • L4frimaire says:

        I have 2 girls so watch a lot of a Disney movies. They definitely try to tug on your heartstrings and think a spunky heroine will erase the built-in sexism. Wasn’t crazy about Frozen2 and my youngest got too upset to get through the live-action Dumbo remake ( how they treated the mother and separated them made her cry so had to turn it off). However we really liked Wreck-it Ralph, go figure. The sequel was ok but surprised how much I liked the original. Visually both those docs look amazing. All those people saying they wont watch it or will boycott the films are totally lying to themselves. We know they’ll watch it.

    • Godwina says:

      Preeeetty sure Kaiser was being very arch, and knows this.

    • Suz says:

      Don’t get me started on Dumbo. I cannot, under any circumstances, tolerate what happens to that poor baby elephant. Gets separated from his mommy and then everyone is SO mean to him.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Oh, Dumbo! That traumatized me more than Bambi.

      • GuestWho says:

        I saw f’ing Dumbo when I was 5, and I had to be removed from the theater it upset me so much. 50 years later, I still get upset when I picture the mother elephant comforting Dumbo from behind bars. OMG. Terrible, terrible movie.

      • L4frimaire says:

        Never seen the original and the remake was too dark so turned it off. My first Disney film was Snow White when I was around 5. My parents took me to some anniversary rerelease if it at some retro movie house in D.C. Remember being so terrified when the stepmother turned into the witch, I hid under my seat, LOL.

    • Enny says:

      Lol, Bambi is the first thing that came to mind for me as well. 🤣

      • Pineapple says:

        For me, the trauma was The Fox and The Hound. I remember being in my theatre seat crying because they where best friends, why oh why would the hound chase the fox? Dear Gosh that was fricking horrid!

  2. Oatmeal says:

    Lmaoooo, at the DF being caught red handed with absolutely no access or sources to the Sussexes.


    • Ali says:

      KP is still leaking to Dan Wooten

    • Lizzie says:

      Right? I thought the Daily Fail was talking to insiders about Meghan in Canada. Shows they have just been making it up and didn’t even know where the Sussix’s were at any time.

  3. Oatmeal says:

    It’s almost as if HM let the bs ride and let the DF have their fanfiction before quietly releasing the facts

    The scrambling from the Fail should be epic today

    • Royalwatcher says:

      It’s not “facts” though! There was no Sussex confirmation of a move and the People article is one of those “a source said” …pretty sure it’s all bullcrap. People has no inside information!! I wish we could all stop believing anything that’s reported anywhere other than the Sussexes’ own website (as they asked us to do).

      • Lila says:

        It’s People. Their stories are all signed-off PR.

        As for the facts included, I don’t care where the Sussexes are hunkering down, as long as they’re being safe. Wishing them all the best in staying healthy. It’s scary just how many people were sick last time they were in the UK.

      • Izzy says:

        Dolt Wootton from The Sun ran the story first as an exclusive. I won’t believe it until it’s confirmed by the official Sussex team, but IF it is true, it means the Sussexes told a family member where they were going and naturally, a Palace source leaked it.

      • Disagree Royalwatcher. PEOPLE nickname is KNEEPADS because most of their articles are total PR, but they don’t tend to get it too wrong as to the basic facts. So, if they are basing this story on Wooten’s Sun exclusive, then I’ll bet they have confirmed it independently in some way. As to Wooten, I just can’t get over how he must really have William by the balls — blackmail wise —- as it is sooooooo obvious that Wooten’s source is always KP. Even William must be smart enough to realize that it is obvious to even the dullest tacks in the box, that He is the obvious source for anything relevant to do with the Sussexes that is released before they release it themselves. Also, I saw an article yesterday that Meghan is now confident that William and Harry are well on the road to mending their relationship……wonder if —- once again —- William is spinning this storyline to try and deal with the damage of his and Kate’s rude public behavior at the church. That’s my tin-foil 👸🏻 theory.

  4. S808 says:

    I doubt they’re in LA. BM probably wishes they were so they can stalk them freely once the pandemic is over. I’m sure they’ll get some property there but I think their home base will be Canada. Either way, press told her to go home well, she did. Be careful what you ask for.

    • sunny says:

      This! The press reacts negatively to everything they do so they should just do what they think is best for their family. And the wonderful posters on here have been saying this since they announced they were stepping back from senior royals, they will probably end up keeping homes/property in California, BC, London, and Toronto.

      Hope the Sussex continue to stay safe, happy, and away from this royal bs.

      • Yeah S808 —- The wealthy have multiple homes. I know one woman who grew up moving between 4 different homes. She referred to them as fall (country home), winter (main home), spring (downtown home), and summer (beach house). I — stupidly —- asked her if it wasn’t a hassle to pack and unpack clothes, etc to relocate every 3 months and she told me they didn’t do that —- they just bought multiples of everything and left it at each house. Their staff made sure everything was kept in good order and ‘opened’ the appropriate house at the appropriate time. I’m telling you, it is a whole other world from the average 9-5 life where most of us live.

      • Rhos says:

        @JA Lowcountry Lady, just curious – are they the new techy riches or Old Money type?

      • Hey Rhys —- The woman I mention above is third generation — grandfather’s family via Ellis Island with nothing —- self-made money but not via tech. And I only mentioned the 4 homes, but at various times they also had (or have) a hunting lodge, an island home, a mountain home, several apartments in various destination cities, and a flat in London. She and her very extensive family are hard working, wonderful people, and very philanthropic.

    • florencia says:

      I hope they are still in Canada. I’m turned off by the idea of them in LA, it just lessens their seriousness in my mind and makes them come off not as the humanitarians they want to be, but as just another Hollywood fame whore couple.

      • MsIam says:

        Wow, judgy much? So no one can be a humanitarian and live in CA? Even though that is where Meghan got her humanitarian roots? Even though her mother volunteers for stuff all the time? Just wow.

      • Becca R says:

        Los Angeles is her hometown. Why would moving there change your view?

        She can’t help where she was born.

      • florencia says:

        Sure, it’s judgy, and honestly irrational, but it’s how I feel nonetheless.

      • Lady D says:

        Her mother lives in Los Angeles.

      • AGreatDane says:

        If a change in zip code can lessen your regard for someone, then you really didn’t have any regard for them to begin with. Also, Meghan was born and raised there and is reputedly the nicest, most caring person ever. So how that’s for “LA makes one a fame whore”? What does growing up in a snotty social climbing town like London make you?

      • Tina says:

        I agree florencia. The optics are bad for the Sussexes in the UK. You can be the Queen who stayed in London rather than evacuate to Canada during WWII or you can be Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan, who fled to Hollywood during the coronavirus.

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        I feel that way too, Florencia.

      • katharine says:

        I agree, Florencia. But it doesn’t surprise me a bit.

      • GuestWho says:

        The optics are bad if you want them to be bad. It is unfortunate that their planned move coincided with a pandemic, but they had already been driven out of living in the UK full time – they were NEVER going to be there to shore up W&K’s punching up of the morale. They live someplace else now. They are fleeing the racist press (and a good number of people) in the UK, not a virus. Neither one of them are Canadian citizens, it’s not possible to just stay there – there are laws. Again, if you want the optics to be bad, that’s how you’ll see them. I see it as Meghan and Harry spending half their time in her hometown and half their time in his home country.

        Maybe the “fame whore” accusations are projection.

      • Olenna says:

        Ole Queenie, ha! Or, you could be Prince Charles who fled to Scotland while infected with the COVID-19 virus. Anyway, seems some people’s regard for the DDoS was tenuous at best since they’re ready to judge them without knowing how long this move (if true) has been in the works, or when/if and how they actually moved from Canada. And, as @Florencia admits, the judging is irrational: As of 1 April, the Sussexes are no longer working royals. Ole Queenie’s rules go in effect: No HRH, no use of royal for marketing, influence, etc. Therefore, they should be able to live their lives and earn an honest living without the British media, haters and royal reporters constantly criticizing them for choosing how they go about it.

      • Xo says:

        Same. I don’t think LA life will suit an Englishman.

      • Nyro says:

        This is so damn ignorant. SMH. Los Angeles is Meghan’s hometown. It’s where she was born and raised. It’s where her mother lives. It’s where she lived for the first 30 years of her life. She’s literally moving back home with her new family. All of this bitching and shadiness about her being in her own damn hometown reminds me of all the hate the Obamas would get for going to Hawaii for Christmas…you know, the place he was born and raised and where his extended family still lived. I remember that idiot Cokie Roberts questioning their “Americaness” for going to Honolulu every year instead of, like, Myrtle Beach where real ‘muuuricans go to. This is exactly how these idiots sound getting their panties in a bunch over the Sussexes being in LA. And they’re jealous as well. It’s not her fault she isn’t from some dreary backwoods town in the UK. Some people grow up in vibrant, dynamic, and glamorous cities. Get tf over it.

      • L4frimaire says:

        Meghan grew up in LA and her mom and close friends live there. LA is a city that is more than just Hollywood. Would you feel as disappointed if they went to Atlanta or Boston? Everyone acts like a California, esp. LA , is this crazy, far out there place. It’s not. It’s a beautiful state with a lot of issues like incredibly high housing costs homelessness, drought, and earthquakes. But still wouldn’t want to live anyplace else.

      • Marie says:

        Harry lived in California for some time when he was training and he said he loved living there. I think Harry can adapt anywhere. If the press and RF weren’t racist I’m sure they would still be living in London.

      • Mary S says:

        @Nyro I get what you’re saying and agree with some of it, but jealous? What and/or who do you think people are jealous of?

      • Maggie May says:

        I agree Florencia. Particularly as they made a statement that they wanted to be in a commonwealth country etc… kind of shows that was just spin. I was also confused in general about anyone moving from that super secluded spot on van island to LA during a pandemic?! I don’t know if I’m convinced about the whole KP is always behind Meghan stories theory. Why can’t Meghan be behind some of her own stories?! I honestly feel like the rift or whatever has gone beyond trying to score points, Meg and Harry have left the RF I don’t feel like William would have the time or energy to bother smearing and leaking stories – he probably doesn’t even know what they are up to. I think they are all just getting on with their lives.

      • Olenna says:

        So, @Maggie May, you say “they made a statement that they wanted to be in a commonwealth”. Why, if such a statement was made, do you think your comment is relevant now considering they had to make new plans after TQ denied their initial one to work as part-time royals while transitioning into financial independence?

      • Nic919 says:

        Since neither are canadian citizens or have PR status (if Meghan did during suits it would have expired once she moved to the UK as she would not have met the residency requirement) there is only so long either could stay in Canada unless they broke the immigration rules. Americans and brits have no special status in Canada and have to leave after a while if they are not working here and don’t have residency status. Meghan is American and it always made far more sense for her to go back to the US and bring her husband and her half American child. Maybe Canada was a half step because they thought they could work part time, but since the Queen did not allow that (despite others working part time and the Cambridges working part time but pretending they don’t) so there was no reason to stay in a Commonwealth country where neither has residency status.

        Besides her mother lives in LA and Meghan has as much right to be near her own parents as Kate did and does with hers.

      • Snappyfish says:

        I agree with Florencia. Canada made since to me. She had lived there for 7 years prior to her marriage & for him, it’s still a Commonwealth.

      • Bren says:

        “Canada made since to me. She had lived there for 7 years prior to her marriage & for him, it’s still a Commonwealth.”

        As others stated above, Meghan resided in Canada for seven years on a work visa. The queen said the Sussexes can no longer be working royals under their new arrangement so they have no valid reason to reside in Canada as nonworking royals and non-citizens. They don’t want to live in the U.K. so the next reasonable choice is Meghan’s hometown.

    • Kitkatdanke says:

      Why are some doubting a People article? I think People would be cautious about publishing something like this that could damage their reputation without publicist approval. I think it would be denied if it was false.

      I defended Harry not visiting his father – his child is his priority and his family’s safety. People are rightfully sensitive right now about not respecting the quarantine. It does look bad that Harry will not be visiting his father but they are moving to the country with the most cases to coincide with the promotion of a movie. This really does add to the perception that fame is their priority unfortunately, whether it is true or not.

      I think they need to clarify that the move happened before the lockdown, if it in fact did.

      • Als Em says:

        How so??

        She is American and from LA. Her mother lives in LA. She went home!

      • AGreatDane says:

        Harry literally cannot visit his father, Prince Charles is in isolation. What part of “deadly pandemic requires social distancing” do people not get? Harry isn’t a doctor, there’s nothing he can do anyway.

      • Tessa says:

        Harry can’t visit his father now. He can catch the virus and bring it back to his family and perhaps his mother in law.

      • GuestWho says:

        Since they were literally driven out of his home country, where would you have them live if not the US? And if they are going to spend half their time in the country she’s a citizen of, why shouldn’t she choose her home town? She’s going home, where would you go in her place? A country that has already purposefully demolished your reputation and put you in physical danger (and where they can’t see his family anyway) – or the place you grew up and where your mom currently lives?

        She doesn’t need to be in LA for Disney to advertise a movie that starts streaming next week. They don’t need to clarify anything to anyone. People who want to think poorly of them will regardless of what they say. It’s like the people who still insist that Harry was pitching Meghan to Iger, when the video purporting that was clearly doctored, and Iger himself said that it wasn’t the case. We actually know how she got involved. But people want them to look “Hollywood hungry,” so the facts just won’t matter.

      • Sunshine says:

        There’s no shame in being from LA and living in LA. Think of all the famous people who live there and you never see paps of them. Beyoncé? Serena? George Clooney? Brad Pitt? Do you ever see paps of them? No. Even the Kardasians only get papped when they want to. Just because you see lots of the Affleck/Garners, Biebera etc, know that these people want to be papped and usually organise it.

      • Olenna says:

        Let me reiterate: Prince Charles is under quarantine. If his health takes a turn for the worse, then I can understand PH and his family being concerned that he is absent. That’s not the case right now. But, really, it’s no one else’s business. Also, why be concerned if this move (if true) may give the “perception that fame is their priority”? I would think that people who like or care about this couple do not concern themselves with this type of judgemental thinking because they know this perception is what the British media, RRs and haters created and are constantly accusing them of, as if they really have a say about how the Sussexes choose to live their lives.

      • Abena Asantewaa says:

        @Abritguest They don’t have to clarify anything to anyone,; the impudence! How old are they? Wasn’t Meghan born in LA? How is it that, when it comes to Doria, no one thinks she deserves to have her daughter ,SIL and grandson around her. Legally, Meghan can cover Harry residential wise because she is his wife, and was born in America, LA, to be precise. It is much simpler. Hollywood, so what! Why do we all behave as if we know their plans? Are they teenagers?

      • Calibration says:

        Kitkat no need to concern troll. It doesn’t look bad to anyone with a brain. His father is in isolation from EVERYONE, and no one should be flying around the world at the moment. Have you checked has Will not been to visit?

      • Maggie May says:

        @guestwho lol so dramatic. They were not literally “driven out” of his home country. The public were very much behind them as evidenced by the huge crowds they drew for their wedding and walkabouts. They didn’t have an easy time in the media but a lot of it was no worse than others have faced and a lot of it was also positive. Basically whenever anyone uses the word “literally” you can assume it is literally not true.

      • GuestWho says:

        @Maggie May Nothing funny about it. There were, in one month, over 450 negative articles about Meghan while she was on maternity leave – not even in the public eye. There were articles linking her charitable activities to terrorists, her love of avocados to war and famine, fictitious articles claiming she stated they were going to raise their baby gender neutral which whipped up all the old crazy MAGA/Brexit supporters who LITERALLY threatened her life for it, neo-nazis who were jailed for threatening to kill Harry for being a race traitor, months and months of paying her father to go on TV and blatantly lie about their relationship – designed to make her look she had ghosted him when all she had done was beg him to stop selling her out. Articles calling her out on made up protocols she had supposedly broken, blaming her alone for decisions she and her husband made together, trashing her alone for monies spent on that ratty cottage, and lambasting her for doing things that were LITERALLY done by other, more well-regarded members of the family (read – white ones) – all designed to whip up that right-wing hate that is so powerful in steering little britain. It was much worse than what others faced as it was relentless throughout her pregnancy and beyond. Her baby wasn’t even two days old before he experienced his first public racial attack – with no push back from that royal family (on ANY of it). It was ,and is, a deliberate campaign to drive her out, where more than one reporter (Wootton, Palmer, and Andrews) admitted it was coming from inside the royal family. They just didn’t think that Harry would leave with her.

        You don’t need to worry that I don’t understand how the English language works. “Literally” is apt here. Your dismissing what she and harry went through as “no worse than others have faced” is demonstrably nonsense and a deliberate attempt to whitewash what has happened to this couple over the past three years. And being patronizing to me on my use of language is obnoxious but not surprising considering the source.

      • Olenna says:

        I do believe the anti-stans (Sussex haters) and racism deniers are cut from the same cloth.

      • GuestWho says:

        @Olenna They are so transparent with their aversion to facts, the “she should have just taken it – it wasn’t that bad”,gas lighting and their repeating tabloid trash.

      • Olenna says:

        @ GuestWho,
        Yes, they are very deliberate and predictable in spreading the hater talking points, but not at all subtle about it. It is kinda funny, though, how they seem to be such a mixed bag of low- to high-functioning nuts, but they react the same way to confronting facts.

      • Nic919 says:

        Why aren’t you criticizing William for not visiting his father and he is even closer? Why just Harry? Even Camilla is to be kept away from Charles but sure claim that Harry has to violate all medical protocol for insane reasons.

      • Dinah says:

        Charles has another son closer by, who could visit him.
        And just a reminder: nore the queen nore his children visited Philip when he was in hospital late last year. This family isn’t that warm and affectionate when one should expect them to be (reminder how Will and Kate ignored Harry & Meghan’s hello in church, in the face of the world at watch).

        And also, it was reported that – while they were figuring out how long before his corona contamination Charles h/met the queen – most of them h/not met privately in the days leading up to the Commonwealth Day service and afterwards. Only Charles met the queen briefly on March, 9th (in church with Camilla) and 12th (alone at BP). Yeah, for THAT family Harry has to risk his and his family’s life in the Coronavirus crisis to visit his father, let alone if he would be able to leave either Canada or the US at the moment.

  5. Becks1 says:

    I don’t fully buy the LA thing, just because I feel like that would have been a really hard thing to hide. The paps were stalking them at the airports and such. But maybe they moved before coming back to the UK for the commonwealth events and Archie stayed with Doria? that would make sense to me. I can see them moving to LA in general, just not sure they’re already there, but they are pretty stealthy at times, lol.

    I’m so excited for the documentary! people are so triggered over it too, lol.

    • Nic919 says:

      Did you see on Twitter that Jason Knauf and Dan Wootton went to university at the same time in New Zealand? This may be the source of willieleaks instead of Christian Jones. Or maybe it’s both of them.

      • Becks1 says:

        Yes!!! I thought that was extremely interesting!

        And I’ll say the fact that DW did report this move makes me think its true, since its obvious he DOES have an inside source at KP.

      • Royalwatcher says:

        Yes but KP no longer has any knowledge of what the Sussexes are doing. I fully believe it was the KP staff leaking to DW too but those days are over now that the Sussexes have left the family/country. Which is all to say IMO this People story is a bunch of malarkey.

      • Nic919 says:

        I would argue that this is only the kind of information a sibling would know about another sibling. Where Harry lives now isn’t something that would be generally known by KP staff, so if this is true, it could only come from a family member.

      • Royalwatcher says:

        But do you really Harry is still telling William his plans?! I sure don’t! He knows the whole family is a sieve (from before when he didn’t want to put his request on paper lest it get leaked…and then he did and then it did). I don’t believe he’s telling William anything!!

      • Becks1 says:

        It is completely reasonable and likely that William knows if Harry moved (however permanent it may be) to the US. Come on now. they have to be able to get in contact with him.

      • Emmitt says:


        Harry could’ve spoken to Charles when he got diagnosed and let him know he was now in the US. Charles speaks with William and mentions his brother is now living in the US (as most parents mention to their children what their siblings are doing). William leaks it to Dan Wooten to get the heat off of him for coronavirus jokes/mad because Meghan’s Disney movie was announced, taking attention away from his children clapping.

        Or, Harry could’ve spoken with William and told him he was living in LA now and William leaked it to the press.

        Harry & Meghan never said they wanted to be private, they wanted to be able to live without being harassed by the media. The only person they insist on having a private life is Archie, because Archie is never going to be on the throne and they don’t wish for Archie to have a royal life.

      • Yes, I saw that Nic919. I’m sure the the Sussexes have to keep Queen and Charles, at least, appraised of major things such as living arrangements, contact info changes, etc. After all, Charles is still funding them and security protocol alone would mean the Queen and Charles have to be kept in the loop. And I’m just as sure that William and his team have inside sources working within both courts that feed him information. According to many former BP staff that have leaked or been sourced for biographies this passing of information by informants between ‘courts’ is mainly how the family and their teams all stay in the know as this is not a touchy feely sharing family. So, I disagree with RoyalWatcher and see these sort of leaks as still highly probable. The Sussexes can’t live in a vacuum and the royal family leak amongst themselves like sieves.

    • vanna says:

      They probably moved to a gated community and LAX has a private gate, without paps etc. It’ll actually make things easier for them I imagine.

    • Ainsley7 says:

      It’s been pretty widely reported that they were moving to LA in the summer. So, while the British tabloids used it as part of their smear campaign by making it an inherently negative thing, that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a planned move. I think they arranged to move earlier than originally planned because they knew they would go unnoticed on the 17th.

      They’re friends with Trudeau. So, they may have known he was in talks to close the border before he announced it on the 16th. Most paps were likely American and didn’t want to get stuck there. The Sussexes were promoting isolation due to Covid 19 as well. No one expected them to leave Canada. It was a smart time to make the move paparazzi wise. I can also believe that whoever owns the house wanted it back. A lot of wealthy people think they are above things and have fled the cities for their country homes.

      • Nic919 says:

        Meghan wanting to be in the same city as her mother is completely normal but the tabloids don’t want to humanize her in any way. These same papers would praise Kate being close to her mother, but meanwhile Meghan is moving to Hollywood for actress jobs and not to be closer to Doria, the parent who hasn’t betrayed her trust ever.

      • Royalwatcher says:

        Where was it widely reported by sources in the know (like Omid or Jessica) or by the Sussexes themselves?

      • I loved how right after the pandemic started forcing everyone to stay in place, there was a series of RR stories saying the Sussexes had had to put their summer in Hollywood plans on hold. Seems they got that wrong too. And it also indicates another win for the Eloi and another loss for the Morlocks (to use Kaiser’s reference of last week). 😂 And I love how —- rightly so —- none of us know where they are, when they obtained the house, when they started moving in to it, or even exactly when they relocated to it. It really is their private business after all. Team Sussex Stealth Operations —— Because no matter what they do or when or how they do it someone somewhere is going to think it is their right to bitch about it and find fault with it. They are private citizens in 3 days and the details about their private lives are truly none of our business. Just as our private lives are ours to reveal or not.

      • LindaS says:

        You think Trudeau shared our countries plans with the Sussexes before he shared with the Canadian public. Thats a stretch.

    • Eliza_ says:

      There’s a VIP exit at LAX you can buy entrance. It still means you have access to customs and security checks but in a special area, with a hidden exit too. Still they traveled after international (euro) ban and shelter-in-place was put up in California. Special entrance still means they has contact with: pilot, crew, security, customs, and driver before they made it to their compound.

      • Nic919 says:

        Meghan is American and would have an automatic right to return back to the US. Archie and her spouse would also be allowed to return with her. The airports aren’t closed, just restricted for non citizens.

      • Eliza_ says:

        My point is just unnecessary travel for a large group of people across international lines. As Harry and Meghan just returned from UK to CAN and had contact with a positive person, they should have stayed in Vancouver at least 2 weeks at home if not 23 days (studies show it can incubate that long)

      • Sunshine says:

        ELIZA whatever point you or anyone is making is invalid, because we have no idea where they are or what they are doing. Harry knows very well that William And Kate leak his information. So who knows what truths Will has at his disposal.

      • Becks1 says:

        I know LAX has a private entrance but the paps have been all over the airport in BC. But , I guess, if they didn’t expect them to travel, they might have missed them.

        Like I said its also possible they moved before going to the UK.

      • Emmitt says:

        Archie is also an American citizen; he needs no special permission to enter the United States. The only person who might have problems would be Harry but Harry is a white European so ICE/DHS/Immigration would have no problems with him.

      • Lady D says:

        Eliza, how do you know they moved during a shelter-in-place order?

      • windyriver says:

        Meghan left England on March 9, as per Omid. Reports saying Harry was also gone started as of March 12.

        Shelter in place for LA and the majority of CA went into effect March 19 (it started a few days earlier in the greater SF area ONLY). The US added the UK to its travel ban as of March 17. Canada and the US closed their border to non-essential travel as of March 18 (not sure when Canada started restricting incoming flights). Charles is reported showing first symptoms about March 21, more than a week after Harry was gone.

        We don’t know where Harry and Meghan really are, or when they actually got there, but there was certainly a window of opportunity for them to travel before shelter in place and other restrictions were in effect. In any case, I’m sure when they left England, they assumed they might have been exposed somewhere (not specifically via Charles) during their trip, and took appropriate precautions.

    • Emmitt says:

      If true, I believe they moved before coming back to the UK. The nanny took Archie to the US. Then, instead of flying back to Vancouver BC, they flew to Vancouver WA, then took another flight to LA.

    • notasugarhere says:

      There may have been an issue of visas. If they were on tourist visa’s, those might have been six months in duration. Six months would be up in April, plus the ending of Canadian security at the end of March.

      • Derriere says:

        I think they would have diplomatic visas, no? I can’t imagine that with the preparation they put into moving, they would have got anything but resident visas or just used diplomatic visas/passports.

      • MsIam says:

        @Derriere if they were not there on official business for the crown they may not have had diplomatic visas. This was a private trip. For them to stay indefinitely they would have been there as officials with some type of government appointment.

    • Dinah says:

      Good guess! What hardly anyone knew then is that for her ‘farwell last engagements’ Meghan didn’t flew to London from Canada, but from the US, taking her stylist Daniel with her (we saw the astonishing results in dresses and makeup). He smartly posted an IG pic of his flight a day after landing. The paps were waiting on Vancouver airport and Heathrow for Canadian flight to come in to pap her, but as always, she (and Harry) moved very smartly.

  6. manda says:

    I saw last night that they had moved. I don’t know why, but I was hoping they chose los feliz

    • Mac says:

      I wonder if they are staying at the house Oprah recently bought in LA.

      • Scollins says:

        My god Oprah’s house and grounds are just stunning while comfy at the same time.

    • a says:

      Malibu, for sure

      • manda says:

        omg yessssss!!! I wish I lived in LA. le sigh

      • SoCal_Sam says:

        @manda – you really don’t want to live in LA. It’s horrible and getting worse. I have been here 25 years and am desperately trying to get out.

        @a – They did buy a place in Malibu. I sold a house a few months ago just over the Santa Monica mountains in Westlake Village and my realtor told me that a realtor in his office was working with Megan and Harry’s reps and they had a contract in escrow.

        This has been in motion for awhile. No surprise to any of us in the area.

      • L4frimaire says:

        @Becks, that kind of makes sense to me too that they planned this move a while ago . For all we know, Meghan could have headed to U.K. from LA for that last round of events, and flown back there as well. @so_cal Sam, that sounds like info you shouldn’t be privy to. A few years ago the writer TaNehisi Coates was in contract to buy a house and some realtor started bragging to it to the press. He cancelled the sale and that was that. So maybe where they are actually living and may not be the same as originally thought if everyone is yapping about it. Don’t people like that use LLC or some such to buy properties, not use their government names? That said, in a few days where they are and what they do is not relevant to anyone other than themselves. They are not public servants.

  7. Talie says:

    DailyMail has been writing fiction for weeks about these two in Canada…I also like how People broke the news slightly before Dan Wootton. I guess Kensington Palace found out some time yesterday, but Meghan & Harry are now onto the games better.

  8. Thinking says:

    @ S808 I was thinking about it and I think you are right. You wouldnt move to a city when you could live on an island when covid is rampant. The States numbers are very high now. And also LA is paparazzi capitol and they left England to get away from paparazzi. Also there is some wierd narrative going around that Meghan said she wouldnt move there while Trump is president. And most importantly it is essential to stay home right now and has been for weeks. They wouldnt risk the immense ammount of people it would take to ochestrate a move right now. People are saying thry had to go coz the owner of the place they were staying needed it ….. no one is going to kick someone out amid this crisis and make them cross a border. So I say fake news!
    But if it is true it makes Charles going to Scotland look like peanuts ! Or maybe all the royals dont think the rulles apply to them.

    • Yoyo says:

      Meghan is an American, why would her going home look like peanuts.
      The house was fully furnished, so no furniture to move.
      They were renting someone’s house, maybe they had originally asked to rent it for six weeks then extended the time, the home owner was gracious enough to let them stay longer.

      • songbirds_thrive says:

        Exactly @Yoyo. For all we know, M&H have been planning things for awhile and shipping some of their belongings to California over time. It’s no problem for them to have started shipping some things to stay in storage until they completed purchase of a property. Or, their L.A. or Malibu property may even have been secured for awhile and everything was set-up and ready for them to move in prior to or just after their U.K. trip in late February, early March. Meghan & Harry have been operating pretty smart and diligently in collaboration with their security staff ever since their courtship days.

    • goofpuff says:

      Meghan is a American. Going home to America. Like all the other Americans scrambling to get home before borders close. Why is this a big deal? If you’re going to get mad at her, then you should get mad at all the other Americans trying to get on flights to go home instead of staying where they are.

      Charles going to Scotland – well is he Scottish?

    • BabsORIG says:

      @Thinking, I really have no idea what you going on and on about. Not sure where you are from but as a Canadian, I can tell you that before our borders closed, people were still moving freely from point A to point B. Our government was encouraging Canadians wherever they were, that if one was in a place of temporary stay, they needed to go to their place of permanent residence ASAP. If, and that’s a big IF, the Sussexes moved to LA their possible place of payment residence, they were still heeding our government’s advice to go to where they’d consider permanent residence and quarantine there. I don’t get why this is a “bad look”. If they did move, their move had been long planned, house owner given notice, owner made plans for his home for when they moved out (maybe already rented it out) etc etc. Why you acting like they just up and left in the middle of a pandemic? The Sussexes were on the UK beginning of March and came back mid March. During all that time, none of us knew how bad this was gonna get, we all were still making future plans, my daughter’s trip to the far East was still on and we all thought it would end in Wuhan. The Sussexes are like the rest of us, they made plans to move and they did when they did, (IF they did) why would that be a bad look or Royals just do whatever they want etc?
      Secondly, you say if they moved it makes Charles going to Scotland peanuts? Are you insinuating that Prince of Wales went to Scotland already aware that he had COVID-19? Are you serious? And none of the Sussexes have tested positive for COVID-19, why would their move to LA be worse than PoW going to Scotland? I just don’t get it.

      • Marie says:

        @Babsorig. I completely agree with you. You bring up wonderful points.

      • Olenna says:

        @Thinking posted the pretty much the same thing yesterday with the main talking points being the Sussexes don’t care about PC, rules or optics. No amount of common sense, intelligent reasoning, or fact will make a difference with this one.

      • I think BabsORIG — That a lot of trolls are trolling this site today as I don’t recognize a good many of the posters of the nastier comments. They must be bored with their usual sites. Thanks for your informative and well reasoned post.

    • Sunshine says:

      @Thinking the only information you have is tabloid information which is fan fiction. In what life is U.K. pap better than American? Harry and Meghan are no longer senior royals and can now do whatever they like when they like. If Harry and Meghan want to move back home to LA, that is up to them. They do not have to inform the courtiers or the Rota. The sooner people like yourself realise that the better.

    • Anonymous says:

      Get it straight. They didn’t leave because of paparazzi. They left because of toxic British tabloids.

      LOL at the lie Bob Iger’s wife, who has seen and heard it all, eyes popped out in shock. Over someone asking for a Disney job? Get real!

      The filmmaker already said he asked Meghan after meeting her in Botswana. But don’t let truth get in the way.

  9. Yoyo says:

    Bob Igor said he knew Harry before but not Meghan, and Harry told him Meghan was tracking a movie, “Harry didn’t asked him for any voice over work for Meghan.”
    The guy that shot this, met Meghan/Harry in Botswana in 2016, he said he asked her to do the voice over work, which was recorded in the Fall Of 2019, so stories about this being her first job since leaving the Windsor’s backstabbing Family is not true.
    Her fee was donated to an elephant charity, so many stories are deliberately leaving that part off.

  10. ST says:

    The part about Disney is slightly wrong. Harry wasn’t pitching Bob Iger. He was actually telling Iger that Meghan was going to be doing voice over work for Disney. Meghan was asked to do the voice over before that by the filmmakers because it is produced by elephants without borders. The same charity Harry spent his summers with relocating Elephants with and that Meghan joined him with in 2016 and 2017. This is typical Meghan of bottom up, rather than going to Disney asking for a voice over job.

    • Ash says:

      This isn’t what happened in the video of Harry mentioning it to Iger, it was definitely the other way around i.e. the article is correct.

      • GuestWho says:

        No. ST is actually correct. Harry was not pitching Meghan’s voice over abilities, he was telling Iger that she was going to be doing a voice over.

      • Mumbles says:

        I agree. I just went to look at it again and I see that some outlets – Elle for one – is saying it was a joke. But the original footage doesn’t sound like a joke (nobody laughs) and moreover after the conversation Iger tells his wife about the conversation and her eyes bug out. Even this post here reports it as a pitch.

      • Yoyo says:

        Then why did Bob Igor tell ET that the story was not true, believe what you want.

      • Stephanie Hawkins says:

        Bob iger has lied to George Lucas, Rupert Murdoch, and the Wall Street community (quit for no reason but really saw the virus coming) he is a coward hold no stock in what he says

      • MrsBump says:

        If the video wasn’t true, the Sussexes would have either denied it via one of their sources/friends, would have requested Disney to make a statement refuting it or they would have filed against the paper who reported it.
        Until they take action against it, then i tend towards the belief that it was true. It certainly looks like a pitch given the surprised look on the disney boss’s face

      • ABritGuest says:

        In relation to the pitch of the Disney doc, hello magazine reported that Meghan had met the filmmakers in 2016 and they approached her to do the voiceover which was done last autumn. On the Lion King red carpet Harry was talking to Iger about her tracking a project of theirs which I assume was this documentary.

        That they didn’t deny the story doesn’t make it true as there have been huge volume of stories they have never addressed eg they didn’t deny recent Fail’s stories ‘sourced’ from Canada which given they were in Cali obviously isn’t true.

        I am convinced that Meghan could formulate a vaccine for coronavirus & the press could still make that a negative thing- ‘not a royal’s role’, ‘taken job from ordinary people’ ‘ Me-gain has made the pandemic all about herself’ and some commentators would say the optics aren’t good’.

      • Nic919 says:

        Since it was confirmed that Meghan did the voice over for the Disney documentary in elephants in 2019, Harry mentioning this fact to Bob Iger is what was said to him. And even if Harry was trying to get her work from Iger who actually cares? It’s not like he was pimping her out. The British tabloids are constantly trying to say that acting is like being a whore which is Victorian level misogyny but looking for work is not a bad thing. Maybe the Cambridges could learn a bit from that. Laziness is not a virtue.

      • MrsBump says:


        There is a world of difference between not clarifying stories related to their physical location and not responding to the Disney story assuming it was fake.
        if indeed as you say, that story isn’t true, then it meant that the audio track that we all heard was manipulated. That is a very serious offence and far more significant than any of the fake stories they did file against, such as the story about meghan being friends with celebrities from before the marriage

      • NeutralObserver says:

        There is another clip where Harry says to Jon Favreau, the director of Lion King, “if anyone needs an extra voiceover we can make ourselves available..” and Meghan chimes in (rather charmingly), “that’s really why we’re here, it’s the pitch!”

        I don’t get what’s so wrong (from their perspective and the world’s) about them being “Hollywood.” That was her dream, and she busted her ass for it. Honestly, I think that’s where she runs into trouble–trying to be something she’s not. And that’s when it comes off as disingenuous. Let her be an L.A. girl for goodness sakes.

      • Olenna says:

        There is nothing wrong with PH talking to anyone about his or his wife’s willingness to work or participate in decent projects. The problem is with the anti-stans, the envious and the bigots who obsessively follow the Sussexes, then pick apart everything they do. They will forego common sense, critical thinking, objectivity and fairness to find fault with them (particularly the Duchess, who BTW donated her earnings from the elephant doc to charity). They scrutinize and categorize every move the Sussexes make with the eyes of self-styled psycho-analysts and criminal investigators, then gleefully proclaim their diagnoses and findings on SM, in the couple’s IG account, on gossip sites, etc. What they get out this obsessive behavior, I don’t know, but their hypocrisy knows no bounds. Any other British royal, whether full-time or not (we see you, York girls and Princess Pushy), can hobnob and network with celebrities for charitable (shout out to Prince Charles and Katy Perry, here!) or personal gain, but these same criticizers have nothing to say about it. But, they will certainly continue to move the goal posts in the other royals’ favor, and to the disadvantage and condemnation of the Sussexes.

  11. Rapunzel says:

    Not sure I buy the LA thing. Would be nice if it was a red herring so they could stay in Canada undetected. But it makes sense with a young child that Meg would wanna be close to her mom.

    I also wonder if this move means they’re getting ready to base/locate their foundation in LA? LA would be a great place for Sussex Global HQ.

  12. Harper says:

    Welcome to America, Harry! Enjoy the L.A. sunshine! And, of course, their announcement was timed to take away from the Cambridge’s video of their kids clapping. Will must be incandescent again.

    I can’t wait to listen to Meghan voice the narrative for the elephant film. Her tone of voice is beautiful and soothing to my ears. Although it’s fair to be wary of Disney and animal stories …. virtually every animal hero/heroine loses their mother/father as part of their journey of self-discovery. I wish they didn’t do that as nothing makes me cry more than a sad, unnecessary animal death the Disney way.

  13. Seraphina says:

    I don’t buy it because Meghan is not tone deaf and she’s strategic in what she does. She knows this would be a BAD move right now. Don’t get me wrong, she does misstep but she is obtuse – a move to LA would be something Willy and Kate would do.

    • emme says:

      People reported it. So of course it’s true.

    • Rapunzel says:

      Why BAD move right now? COVID? Or something else?

      • Seraphina says:

        COVID aside, all they do is take her through the coals as the Hollywood starlet who wants to bump her career and this was her plan all along. I don’t think within 6 months of a quote unquote separation from BRF she would think it’s a good move. Canada was brilliant choice.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Seraphina – I must agree with you. If Meghan & Harry have moved to California then it will produce some bad optics that will feed the Meghan haters. Again, I must agree with you “Canada was brilliant choice” and is still a better choice IMHO.

      • Rapunzel says:

        Seraphina- your point about it proving Meg Hollywood is valid, and I had the same reaction at first. Then I remembered Doria lives there. So it’s being close to her mom. That’s a good move because they need trusted people. Plus Archie has been far away from grandma long enough.

        At this point, haters are gonna hate anyway. So there isn’t really a “brilliant” move for them because fault will always be found no matter what.

        Now, if Meg returns to Hollywood activities like acting, etc., then I will change my mind. But right now, I’m like, “she’s damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t” so might as well be near her mom.

      • songbirds_thrive says:

        But @Seraphina and @BayTampaBay, how can you say what is or is not a good or a bad choice for Meghan & Harry? We are not them, and we do not have the best handle on what their lives are like or on the types of decisions they need to make for a variety of reasons that we are not privy to. This is because their lives are actually none of our business, no matter our interest. Still, it’s easy enough to realize that the border closing issues at this time and visa requirements in Canada likely pushed up their plans to relocate to L.A. Or, they may have been fairly in line time-wise with the moving schedule that reportedly has now come to fruition.

        In fact, People and Omid Scobie have already indicated that M&H have moved to a secluded compound in L.A. Scobie also mentioned Meghan’s desire to be near her Mom during this current crisis, and that makes a ton of sense.

        As someone mentioned earlier, M&H are likely going to be citizens of the world with homes in L.A. and in the U.K. (Frogmore), as well as retreats in Canada (Vancouver and Toronto). This, along with them traveling often to other locations around the world in connection with their charities, including Africa (where they will surely eventually spend a certain amount of time every year). I suspect M&H will also vacation in their favorite locales and visit the homes of friends, such as Elton John (Nice, France) and the Clooneys (Lake Como, Italy). The Clooneys also have a home in L.A. And Meghan has friends in L.A., Canada, New York, and the U.K. Of course, for the foreseeable future, the Sussexes will be staying at their current home, and self-isolating like everyone else.

        I personally don’t think it’s a valid worry about Meghan dipping her toes into some form of acting or film work in Hollywood. I tend to agree with those who feel M&H might get involved with a production company or strike a Netflix deal in order to make their own films highlighting the issues and charities they are passionate about. Harry has already been filming the previously announced mental health project with Oprah. IMO that Sussex project with a well-known celebrity is what led the Lamebridges to make their Xmas documentary with Mary Berry, highlighting in a p.r. way a few charities they are connected with. I doubt that Cain and Unable have been doing a whole lot of extensive behind-the-scenes work with the charities they highlighted, in the same way that M&H have been doing with their charities and patronages, naturally and purposefully.

    • Jegede says:


      I agree that Canada was a better choice, esp long-term.🤷‍♀️

      They could fly to LA for projects and events but make Canada home for them and family.

      The LA thing is a bit too Duke & Duchess of Windsor for me (and yes I know those 2 settled in Paris).

      • GuestWho says:

        Neither one of them is a Canadian citizen.

      • Jumpingthesnark says:

        “A bit too duke and duchess of Windsor”????
        Knock it off. The last time I checked the Sussexes weren’t nazi sympathizers.
        Or is the worse sin choosing to associate with a city that is “American” and therefore low class and tacky, hmmmmm?
        I love LA by the way. I have dear family members who live there. Love visiting there.

      • Marigold says:

        Oh, please. The Duke of Windsor abdicated the throne. He was the king. Henry is 6th in line. He’s not disrupted the government or thrust heavy responsibility on someone it didn’t belong to. Harry isn’t being exiled for having abhorrent social and political positions in opposition to basic human rights. Harry and Meghan are not throwing celebrity parties, getting high every night, and calling it a “salon.”

        Please. Stop. It’s ridiculous.

        There are 10 million people in the Los Angeles Metro, and if you want to be positioned well to raise money for charity, invest in tech advances, or network with philanthropic foundations, L.A. is a marvelous place to be. Plus, Meghan’s mother lives here.

        There’s not even a whiff of Windsor debauchery in moving to L.A. Just no.

      • Jaded says:

        @Seraphina & Jegede – you can’t just “move to Canada and make it your home”. It’s a long process to get permanent residency and can take up to 16 months. There is absolutely no comparison to Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson who were rushed out of the UK because he abdicated the throne and flaunted their Nazi connections. That was a treasonous offence and had he still been the reigning monarch he would have been removed from the throne. LA is a great spot for a home base to grow their foundation and philanthropy BTW and Meghan is well connected there.

        Do a little research before you make such uneducated comments.

      • Nic919 says:

        Canada has its own set of laws regarding who can stay there and Meghan and Harry couldn’t stay there forever. There is no royalty exception outside of the current monarch. No one else, even Charles, can just stay here without proper paperwork.

        As an American citizen Meghan can live in the US without any issue and she can sponsor Harry as her spouse. Neither had any of those rights in Canada.

      • songbirds_thrive says:

        That’s just simply in your head @Jegede, as likely put their via the Daily Mail and other tabloids. The Duke & Duchess of Windsor comparison doesn’t add up in so many ways. Harry did not abdicate the throne. The 1930s and 1940s Is NOT the 2000 teens and twenties! In fact, we are in a totally different century. There are only superficial comparisons in that Meghan is a divorced American who married a British royal. But Meghan was only married and divorced once, not twice.

        In addition, Meghan has a lot of style and so did Wallis Simpson, but Meghan is not selfish and self-centered like Wallis. Also, Meghan made her own career and her own money without having to rely exclusively on men to help her succeed. Both Wallis and Edward were narrow-minded and self-centered in addition to their Nazi-leanings which during WWII was traitorous behavior.

        I see that other posters have already pointed out similar and additional facts which even more succinctly prove that your trying to tie Wallis & Edward to M&H doesn’t make any sense.

      • Jaded says:

        @songbirds_thrive: Thanks for your obviously well-researched and knowledgeable comment. Commenters like you are invaluable to “setting the record straight” with those who don’t know the whole story.

    • MsIam says:

      But I thought they could only stay in Canada on a six month visitors visa. If they moved there in November wouldn’t the six months be up in April anyway? So I’m guessing they were going to have to move fairly soon so they moved before everything shutdown.

      • notasugarhere says:

        That’s what I was thinking. If the sixth month tourist visas are up, plus Canada is ending their security in a few days. Those things plus COVID-19 shutdowns may have forced a quicker move than expected.

    • GuestWho says:

      She and Archie are American citizens. They wouldn’t be allowed to stay in Canada indefinitely. Why is it a misstep for her to go home?

      How is she obtuse specifically?

      • Seraphina says:

        @Guestwho, I never stated she is obtuse, I fact I think she is far from it. That’s why I don’t think it’s a valid story.

        Secondly, there are ways to find loopholes. Money is able to get ahead for being tested for a virus and money and who they are can certainly find loopholes to stay in Canada. Now a dual residency I can see.

      • GuestWho says:

        @seraphina ” she does misstep but she is obtuse ”

        You kinda did.

        If they tried to find loopholes to stay in Canada, wouldn’t that just bring the wrath of the already angry upon them? They said they’d be spending half their time in the UK and half in NA. It makes sense they would go to countries where at least one of them is a citizen. She just went home. Simple as.

      • Seraphina says:

        @ Guestwho, that was a typo 🤦🏻‍♀️ That is why the word BUT was in there, she may misstep sometimes, but she is not obtuse.

      • The criticism posted here over this really bothers me as it is simply a story about moving house. I just don’t get why everyone cares so much and takes it so personally where they live! What business is it of any of us? First it was they had no right to leave KP, then it was they had no right to renovate rundown Frogmore Cottage, then it was get out of Britain, then it was why Canada, why Vancouver Island, now it’s why California and how dare they. Why don’t some of you just admit you can’t stand the fact that they have the right to any life at all! You act like they are subhuman or something. You have the right to your life and they have the right to theirs. They are not slaves and we don’t own them.

    • RedRoyal says:

      Meghan and Harry were approaching the six month (April) end of a tourist visa for Canada and that can’t be extended. Canada has strict requirements and skills to be able to stay in the country. Meghan had a work visa for Suits. They can’t apply for refugee status. Meghan is American and can work in America. And she can sponsor Harry for a green card. Some of you and tabloids forget about these things.

      • MsIam says:

        Exactly. I believe i read that the only way the could stay longer was if they had some type of work or business interest. The foundation is in the US, not in Canada so they would not have had a valid reason to stay longer than the six months, unless they moved the foundation to Canada. So I think the move had to happen when it did.

      • Marigold says:

        Exactly. As an American, I can’t just decide I like Canada better and move there long-term. It doesn’t work that way in ANY country that I’m aware of.

        Royal or no, neither can Meghan.

        And the snobbery on display about Los Angeles is really telling. Good grief. Los Angeles is a massive city, and Hollywood–which is what so many seem to be thinking of–is a tiny speck of the area. It has mountains on the north and desert to the east and oceans to the west. There is every kind of environment and opportunity there. Plus, it’s the city Meghan comes from and her mom lives there.

        It would make perfect sense for them to stay in L.A. or thereabouts while they decide where to make a more permanent home.

        As to L.A. not being an appealing place “for an Englishman” as someone said above….HA HA HA HA. There are so many British ex-pats in Southern California. SO. MANY. There are also a lot of 1st generation British-American immigrants in SoCal.

        This whole “L.A. is a bad look” talk is just anti-American twaddle! 5 out of every 100 Americans, by population, live in San Diego and Los Angeles counties in Southern California. There’s more here than celebrities and beach parties and movie production, and if you want your finger on the pulse of tech development or philanthropy in the USA, L.A. is a great place to be.

      • Nic919 says:

        It’s not so much LA they are going after but Hollywood, and they pretty much are saying the film industry is like prostitution.

        But sure let’s slag actresses and not the prince who benefitted from underage sex trafficking victims. Nice work Wootton. Way to set your priorities.

  14. Harla says:

    Omg! I thought I was the only one who had problems with animal documentaries!! Thank you Kaiser for letting me know that I’m not alone!! Like you, I go into watching one with some borderline anxiety, just waiting for something bad to happen. But this is Disney and nothing bad happens in a Disney movie, right?? Oh god, Bambi!! Maybe I’ll just cover my eyes and listen to it.

    • Aria says:

      Me too I cant watch animal dies and it makes me very sad and hate myself for watching those in first place.

    • Lucy2 says:

      I can’t watch them either!
      But that was a good job for her to do, narrating one.

  15. emme says:

    Why are people doubting this story? It’s reported by People so it is true.

  16. Yoyo says:

    I think EWB and Harry will be disappointed that the Botswana Government was opening up big game hunting again, for the elephants to get slaughter, after so many people worked saving the elephant population.
    Well Covid19 put an end to it for now.

  17. BabsORIG says:

    Back in January, the Vancouver Sun wrote an article about the conflicting stories about ownership of the Sussex mansion. At the end of their article, the writer said the land deed on which the hone is is owned by Towner Bay County Club and all directors of this club live in Victoria ( interpret that as you like). So nobody knows who owns the home, all the “owners” thrown out there by the tabloids have come out and refuted everything. So with that said, I doubt the tabloids even know the nature under what the Sussexes are occupying this home. Which means they have no idea if they can or can’t be kicked out.

  18. Digital Unicorn says:

    Am not sure I buy this, esp given that LA has over 1,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19. They are better staying on Vancouver Island esp with a baby.

    This is the Daily Fail click baiting us all and now you have the BBC picking it up without any confirmation it’s true.

    • Maria says:

      LA is the next New York, and New York is the next Italy. This from the LA mayor, regarding COVID19. And a president who wants to reopen business by Easter. No thanks, I’ll stick with Trudeau.

      • Anonymous says:

        When Canadian borders are closing and non-citizens told Go Home, No thanks, I’ll stick with Trudeau is not an option.

  19. GenX says:

    Just yesterday I showed my kids a Disney Nature documentary about flamingos. All fine and dandy until an ugly-ass maribou showed up and started violently devouring the chicks. My kids cried all afternoon. Quarantine fail!

  20. Sofia says:

    If this is true then it makes yesterdays “Meghan is forcing Harry to stay in CANADA!” story hilarious af. The Fail once again getting facts wrong. They got the place wrong and that’s not even the start.

    But anywho, I really don’t care where they live. In just under a week they’ll be private citizens therefore their movements don’t need to be tracked

  21. Linda says:

    I thought Harry and Meghan are in self isolation after being in the same vicinity with Prince Charles at the commonwealth event? Why would they decide to travel at this time with the potential risks involved?

    • MsIam says:

      We don’t know when they traveled or when Charles was diagnosed. We’ve only heard that it’s believed he was exposed to the virus around March 13 and there is about a five day incubation period. So they could have already been in LA if this is true by the time they found out about Charles. Plus neither of them are Canadian citizens so they could have been stuck in a no mans land situation with the borders closing down.

  22. MellyMel says:

    Hmmm I don’t doubt they have property in L.A, which I’ve been saying since they moved, but I doubt they are there right now. It seems safer in Canada at that moment (Corona wise), but maybe she wanted to be closer to her home? I dunno.

  23. KellyRyan says:

    Welcome home H&M and baby Archie. LA is the town for movers and shakers. the place to do business. Las Feliz a possibility, so is Calabasas, Beverly Hills, (Serena lives in BH), Oprah in Montecito, (Santa Barbara County). Meetings are frequently held in one’s home. Clooney acts, produces, etc. and has a home in LA flies in specifically to do business. Life moves on. BRF press must be besides themselves. 🙂

    • MsIam says:

      My money is still on that ranch Oprah bought last year in Montecito, lol! She already has a huge compound, why would she need another home? Hmmmm?

      • KellyRyan says:

        Could very well be a place to stay, hold meetings and search for a home. We’re going to move from CA to AZ and are doing all our searches online. HOA’s, Google Maps, home exteriors and interiors, contacting our realtor by text, etc. Meghan, Harry and Archie are safe and certainly safer from their British family of crazies who do have Covid-19. 🙂

      • Genessee says:

        Why does everyone insist that Oprah and Meghan/Harry are THAT CLOSE to Oprah that they would crash for a while on her property?!?

        I’d guess Selena or one of her other (also rich) friends has a rental property in a gated community for them to stay in that can also provide privacy.

      • MsIam says:

        @Genessee, Oprah and Harry are working on a documentary together so it’s not like they are strangers. Plus Oprah was at their wedding. It’s not like she is adopting them but they have enough of a relationship to where offering them to stay at one of her properties is not out of the question. Also Oprah spoke up for them very vehemently and said she backed their decision 100%.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      It is also the town where Evil Papa Smurf can stalk them and give interviews standing outside their home looking pathetic. Daddy is a security risk.

      • Yoyo says:

        Since it’s private property, a claim of harassment can be filed and at this point I don’t think meghan cares if her the police removes her abuser from the property.
        Since it was claim that it’s a gated property, he can only come in with their permission.

      • Anonymous says:

        California was the first state to enact stalking laws. Papa Smurf better think twice.

  24. Sass says:

    Here to remind you that in nearly every Disney film, the mom is dead/dies. 😬

    • RoyalBlue says:

      Not Disney. Blame the brothers Grimm who had the evil stepmother theme on repeat.

  25. Lisa says:

    If this is ttue they did not just do it and the lie of the DM were exposed. While they had them in Canada they were already in the US. This getting exposed now also points to the family bring a source of leaks since this information wwe not revealed until Charles was in contact with them about testing positive and going into isolation.

  26. A Guest says:

    It was hilarious to watch the RRs and the haters have a complete “go-to-pieces” on Twitter about how “inappropriate” the documentary was in “this time of crisis”.

    Omid Scobie then came out with the details that this was completed last fall, she’d met the film- maker through the elephant charity, was donating her fee to said charity and yes she’s still the Duchess of Sussex. Oh and no, there isn’t a deal in place for her to do some “superhero” movie.

    I get the distinct impression that Omid, who isn’t a part of the Royal Rota, loves trolling the ever-living feck out of these folks. He has the access they so desperately crave and they hate him for it. There have been several snarky comments directed at him by others and he sits there not giving an ish.

  27. Marivic says:

    Wherever they are I wish them good health and a good and long life.

  28. Leah says:

    Also notable from this trailer is that Natalie Portman is voicing the one about dolphins.

    • L4frimaire says:

      I’m can’t wait to see the dolphin one voiced by Portman. Funny how no one seemed bothered by her voicing it, or wondering how much she got paid or if she did it for charity, or if it’s part of her plan for world domination ( yes someone actually said that). I mean, she did play Jackie Kennedy, so she must all kinds of ulterior motives in voicing this documentary. 🙄

      • GuestWho says:

        That world domination tweet and the subsequent responses were hysterical. Is that how you get to dominate the world? Voice overs for Disney? Who knew.

      • I was just going to say that L4frimaire. ➕💯. I’m looking forward to the dolphin one too. And isn’t it interesting that no one is criticizing Natalie Portman for doing voice over. Oh wait, she’s a private citizen and her choices are not up to any of us. 🤯

  29. Loretta says:

    LMAO this is another proof that British media don’t know anything about the Sussexes.
    I can’t wait for the Didney documentaries, they look amazing!

  30. Magenta says:

    Just curious what source does anyone have they moved before the California stay in home order of March 19. As a US citizen she can fly home now just self isolate, especially with a private plane, commercial flights may be hard to come by. I actually read two sites saying they left only a few days ago. Just wondering as it seems a bit odd to come to the US while our country especially California is such a hotspot for the virus, plus it’s nuts here with how well we are doing with it. States are fighting each other for resources kind of a mess. Not sure how I feel about their timing, but good luck to all.

    One good thing you made me look at the Daily Fail website on something not Coronavirus related and I read the article about them moving. Mostly drivel, even when they compliment it’s a back handed, however they had great pictures of her mother taking her dogs out. Doria just seems like the coolest lady. Check out the pictures, I haven’t found them on better sites.

    • Saw that Magenta on another magazine that picked up story. Loved how they mentioned that one of Doria’s dogs went to the bathroom and she stopped to clean it up. I’m surprised they didn’t publish the photo close-up of her dog actually going to the bathroom as you know the photographer took it. It’s amazing that the RR feel the need to drill down to this level of detail about Meghan’s life and yet we’ve heard nothing about Cambridge’s dog Lopo in almost 2 years. 💩

  31. L4frimaire says:

    Wow that is a ballsy move in more ways than one! Can they never not make news. We are in near total lockdown here in California so curious to know when this happened or the timeline. Borders closed this week so had to be before that. First things, will definitely watch this because kids love elephants and nature films are “ educational “, and there is no more school. 2nd,there were rumors that they’d spend summer in LA , so maybe this sped up the timeline. However, hope they have excellent health insurance because US healthcare system is a mess during this pandemic and Trump is more loathsome by the day. 3rd, thank god there is a lockdown because the haters, especially in UK, about to go crazy. The Sussexes really are the gift that keeps on giving. If they ever go boring and traditional, that will be the time to weep.

    • Magenta says:

      The borders are closed, but if you are a US citizen which is what Meghan and Archie are you can come and quarantine. I’m guessing they used marriage act provisions for Harry. Plus they probably made these plans when it was open to US. Who knows but I think safety wise Vancouver was probably better.

      • L4frimaire says:

        Agree with this part. I think as an American, it made more sense to just go home, where there is a support network. Living on a resort island was not sustainable and that “ multimillion luxury mansion” was temporary and not theirs, Also, what is their immigration status in Canada? I’m sure they were working with the US consulate there to get a visa for Harry Besides, they’ll be stuck in the house regardless. It seems the biggest fear of the UK tabloids and Royals is not necessarily where the Sussexes live, but their visibility and voice.

      • blue36 says:

        Assuming neither are permanent residents of Canada, both Harry and Meghan can only stay in Canada for up to 6 months without a visa. I’m guessing that when Meghan was working on Suits she had a work visa that allowed her to stay there (she should have just applied for permanent residency then). I saw some discussion that they were almost up their 6 month time frame to stay in Canada, so they probably had to leave before the borders closed indefinitely or their residency in Canada would be questioned. Plus no one is sure how long the borders are going to be closed, so I’m guessing this is just to avoid any issues they might have with the CBSA or immigration. While I don’t think the government would force them out during the pandemic, they may have done so just to be safe. However, I do wonder if they were thinking of becoming immigrants in Canada in the first place?

    • MsIam says:

      I’m sure Meghan is part of the Actors Guild, and those guilds have some of the best insurance around. You pay a pretty penny for membership though. My daughter is part of the Animation Guild and has $5 copays for office visits. I’m so jealous. I’m sure that Meghan kept her dues up and who knows this voice-over work probably helps her keep her membership active.

  32. Koro says:

    If you ever want to bawl, just watch Disney’s Little Matchgirl short. It was an extra on the Little Mermaid DVD and I thought to myself, it’s Disney, let’s see what positive spin they put on this. Big, big mistake (but beautifully done). I will never trust Disney for happy endings again!!

    • Anonymous says:

      Disney gave The Little Mermaid a much happier ending than Hans Christian Andersen. The Disney stepsisters didn’t have cut off pieces of feet or pecked out eyes. The original fairy tales are not for the weak.

    • Lady D says:

      Found it, watched it, cried about it. That was sad. I think I’m a little over emotional these days.

  33. Michelle says:

    I don’t really give a rip where they live but I thought Harry wanted to be in a place where he and his family were not hounded by the paparazzi. Wouldn’t LA be a bad choice for this? Perhaps he was referring to getting out of England, so who knows. To each his own. And like you Kaiser, no way am I watching an animal documentary. I don’t care who is narrating it. An animal is going to be attacked and/or killed and my tender heart cannot take it!

    • MsIam says:

      Well tell me where they wouldn’t be hounded by paparazzi? Antarctica? I think Harry wanted to get away from the obligation to the royal rota. And quite frankly, get away from some of his jealous family members too. Married ins are not treated well by that family, look at all of the divorces. I think H&M wanted to get away from that.

      • Michelle says:

        I am sure if they moved to a little town someplace they would hardly get noticed. But I am sure that would not work for their lifestyle and travel issues.

      • Bella says:

        Good point, MsIam.

        This whole move was about escaping the Royal Rota and the tabloid culture.

    • Marigold says:

      Lots of celebrities live in L.A. without being hounded by paparazzi. It all depends on how they conduct their lives. In addition, there are a lot of small towns in Southern California (like mine) where you have the privacy of a small community but can be in the city within the hour. There are very rich and famous people in many of these small SoCal towns, and nobody ever takes a pap photo of them. So…it can be done. Also, I think people who haven’t been in Los Angeles or the metro area have a real underestimation of how big, diverse, and spread out L.A. is.

      It is massive. They can keep the press down if they wish to.

  34. Emily says:

    As a Canadian, I’m sad we can’t go around boasting about how cool we are with royalty and treat them like everybody else. As this hilarious Twitter thread by @vmochama says, we were ROBBED of our fake chill and in exchange we will take as many spare Eugenies and viscounts as England can spare.

  35. Case says:

    Agree with those saying I’m not sure I believe they’re in LA. They were in Vancouver not long ago, and probably wouldn’t have been able to move safely during the current situation.

  36. Christina says:

    I’m not a fan of Disney. They emotionally manipulate their audience by killing of parents. Women are witches or babes who don’t mind giving up their voices (Ariel) or cleaning house for 7 short men!

    • Janet says:

      I just read some of a series by Cassandra Gannon which takes various legends and fairy tales and then turns them around. The Kingpin of Camelot made me chuckle to myself while reading it.

      As someone said earlier, this situation is a trough of anxiety food. Turning off the news and picking up a light-hearted read is helping a lot.

    • Allergy says:

      Disney is really creepy.

  37. JT says:

    Long time lurker here, first time commenter. You can have privacy in LA if you really want it. There are many A listers that live here who manage to go under the radar for months at a time. Not every area of LA is a paparazzi hot spot. We have many gated communities that offer more privacy as well.Secondly, what seems to be getting lost in the reports about their move is that neither Harry nor Megan are Canadian citizens, they cannot just stay there indefinitely. With them not being senior royals in any capacity the don’t have to exclusively live in commonwealth countries. Moving to CA was probably always a plan. They could’ve easily flown from the UK to CA after the commonwealth events and complexly skipped Vancouver.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Welcome JT and thanks for being a voice of reason. As @MsIam noted, 6 months is the limit for Canada and the Sussexes started living there in November. I’m sure exceptions could’ve been made for them, but imagine what the reaction would’ve been! Also, something being lost (deliberately by some factions like the British press) is that LA is Meghan’s hometown. It’s where her mother lives. Some would like to ignore that fact and focus on the “Meghan is SO Hollywood!!” narrative. Well…provided this story is actually true, and I suppose it might be since it’s being touted by Dan “I have a million connections with Cambridge staff” Wootton.

    • Fleur says:

      Yes, exactly. See also: Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt. They seem able to live relatively “normal” lives in the Los Angeles region. It’s exactly where Meghan and Harry should go, I can’t think of a logical reason why they wouldn’t.

  38. Janet says:

    One of the private jets that is part of the fleet used by some well known movie stars flew up to Vanvouver and back 2 days ago. It landed in Chino, CA not LAX. I’m going to take a wild guess that this was probably them.

  39. Cat girl says:

    I love Meghan and Harry but am a bit surprised they moved to LA/US. I always imagined they were more lowkey than that. I thought that BC suited them and I was getting excited about Meghan doing work with communities in Vancouver.

    • Aria says:

      They cant forever there because of visa restriction and security cost where canada refuse to pay for them. Now charles will pay for their security from his fund and now the correct way for them to secure the money where many corporate there in silicon valley for their charity donation.

    • GuestWho says:

      LA is her home.

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        Was. After so many years, who’s to say it still is?

      • GuestWho says:

        Apparently she is.

      • Lady D says:

        So many years? She’s 38 and she lived in LA until she was 30.

      • Nic919 says:

        Her mother lives in LA. Is she not allowed to live in the same city as her own mother? Seriously the level of stupidity on this is mind bending.

        I mean who wouldn’t want to be with the parent who raised them during a pandemic?

    • Tina says:

      All the outrage about them being stripped of their commonwealth roles seemed to be unjustified. How can they legitimately serve the commonwealth if they are in the US and not living in the UK or Canada?

      • GuestWho says:

        They have said they would split their time between the UK and NA. They can certainly see to their Commonwealth roles while in the UK for half of the year.

    • Jaded says:

      I think the plan to move to LA, if that’s where they actually are, has been in the works since they came to Canada. I think they used the home base in Canada to get their ducks in a row, knowing it would be restricted to 6 months per Canadian visa regulations, and chill out for a while after all the stress of the exit. Meghan is American, likely has many good friends and contacts in CA to help get their foundation up and running, and her mother lives there so it all makes sense. Obviously COVID-19 has created an obstacle for a quick launch but every place in the world is facing obstacles right now.

    • Marigold says:

      Lots of people in L.A. are low key. 10 million of them, actually.

  40. Citresse says:

    Here is the question: now that H&M are so much closer to Mexico, will Meghan’s father meet his grandson???

    • GuestWho says:

      For good reason, he will never, ever lay eyes on that child.

    • TheOriginalMia says:

      Geographical location wasn’t the reason Thomas Markle wasn’t in Meghan’s life. His actions before, during and after their marriage have permanently damaged their relationship to the point that Meghan has cut him out of her life. So, no. He won’t see Archie.

    • Emmitt says:

      No and there’s no reason why Thomas Markle should ever meet Archie, since he hasn’t met any of his other 5 grandchildren.

  41. TheOriginalMia says:

    I fully expected them to move to LA. There was no feasible way for either of them to remain in Canada. They aren’t residents. Neither are working there. It always made more sense for them to live in the US. There are plenty of celebs living undercover in LA that are not hounded daily by the paparazzi.

  42. Well-Wisher says:

    Although the Sussexes left the UK for peace, the media seem more determined to interfere with their lives. There are emerging patterns since the announcement- ensure that the Sussexes fail so that Harry return to be their entertainment and cash cow
    – it then included Archie, he sells well
    – Meghan the ‘jezebel’
    Then the usual outrage from the several bots and a small consistent amount of trolls
    It is transparent business model about information gathering that emerged during Princess Diana lifetime.
    Alarmingly there is a new version.
    Yesterday there were good news about the documentary. Today news about move to LA
    One can now be aware of where,when and who in terms of the present news item.
    Most importantly who is the source from the family since late November?
    My answer is Guy (Meghan’s dog) – he is upset that he has to share Megan and be just a part of the the family instead of the centre. He feels that too much attention is being sent towards Archie.
    So he is leaking. LOL.

    Seriously this is about the Sussexes safety and well being.

    • Thanks for the laugh WellWisher. I can just see Guy the dog being a jealous thing. 😂💨🦮
      I was getting to invested in so much of the negativity on here today. Self isolation seems to have given the trolls more time to troll.

  43. AGreatDane says:

    For all the “moving to LA seems like they wanna be spotted” talk on here, we don’t have any pictures do we? So maybe it is possible to live in LA and not get snapped all the time. And they didn’t leave the UK because of paparazzi anyway.

  44. Vanessa says:

    I don’t know why people are saying this move is bad optical Meghan and Harry are few days away for being non senior royals where they live is no one business. Harry and Meghan are adults who are making decisions about their life now people seem to forget that Meghan has a mother who lives in Los Angeles you I’m sure would love to be able to spend time with her daughter and son in law and grandson . It’s like all the haters and the royal reports see is the royal family that’s all that matters the royal family doesn’t give two crap about seeing Archie or Meghan or they care about is having Harry back so he can be used as a human shield for the Cambridge’s . People knew that Meghan and Harry weren’t not going to just live in Canada for long they said that they have plans to live in North American and Canada so what the problems it seem like this is just another attack on the Sussex to distract from the William makes cruel tasteless jokes about the viruses going around on Twitter and the Cambridge’s obviously pr moves which made them look so incredibly petty and thirst for attention.

  45. emme says:

    So, if LA/America is their long term plan, why did they come to Canada to begin with? Already seeing so many comments about this. They used RCMP resources and spent time in downtown shelters giving the impression they were interested in supporting the community and considering a permanent move. These are really bad optics indeed!

    • Goldie says:

      Perhaps they thought about settling in Canada when they thought that could still be part-time working royals you know “half-in, half out.” It would make sense to live in a common-wealth country. Once it became clear, that they weren’t going to be working royals at all, they may have decided to base themselves primarily in L.A.

      • Marie says:

        I thought that as well Goldie. If they were still going to work for the RF in some capacity staying in a Commonwealth country made sense.

    • Jaded says:

      Did you ever stop to think that Meghan may have KNOWN the person who owns the house they stayed in and that it was kindly offered to them as a place to recoup, reorganize and simply be at peace after the horrible manner in which they were chased out of the UK by their own family? You seem to have forgotten that Meghan lived in Canada for years and has many good friends here.

      Do you have proof positive that Canada paid for their security, which is mandatory because of their royal positions? The costs may well have been reimbursed to the RCMP by Charles and/or the Queen. Meghan, BY HERSELF, visited 2 shelters (a women’s shelter and an animal shelter) because THAT’S WHAT SHE ENJOYS. She’s a huge supporter of women’s and animals’ needs and rights world-wide and wasn’t just “giving the impression” that she cares.

      This is not “bad optics” and your trolling is obvious.

    • OriginalLala says:

      yeah this has been on my mind – why come here to use up RCMP and Canadian resources ? Because as a Commonwealth nation we could be told to pay for security?

      • blue36 says:

        The UK government asked the RCMP to provide protection for them while they were in Canada (I believe they were getting reimbursed by the UK). That’s what I read on CBC.

      • Jaded says:

        “Use up RCMP and Canadian resources”???? You think that’s the main reason they came here? They came here because they love Canada, Meghan knows Canada. Meghan has good friends here, possibly knows the person whose house they stayed in. The Island is a gorgeous, peaceful spot to rest, relax and unwind. Furthermore, the RCMP was most likely reimbursed for their work keeping them safe from the paps and nutters.

    • AMM says:

      IIRC, canada was meant to be a six week holiday. The original plan they released to beat the Suns release didnt end up coming to fruition (the Queen said they couldnt work and be royals, so they chose not to even be part time like originally planned). So they ended up extending their stay in Canada while working out the details. I imagine of Harry and Meghan were still part time royals, staying in a commonwealth country would make more sense. But neither of them are citizens and without working for the crown, they no longer have a reason to be there. Their visas will expire soon. Plans changed.

      • Livvers says:

        This makes sense, but I do think the _timing_ of the news at least is quite bad for public perception in Canada, and likely to get Canadians wondering out loud like Emme did. Canadians can be very welcoming but we can also be a little sensitive to feeling snubbed as a nation… speaking personally. 🙂

      • Jaded says:

        @Livvers: You are speaking personally. Every Canadian I know, especially those here on the Island, are not feeling the least bit “snubbed” by the Sussex’s move to CA and it does nothing to tarnish their public perception in here. Please don’t speak for the majority of us Canadians, it sounds petty and personal. Oh, and blue36 above is right, the UK gov’t requested RCMP protection, which obviously they have to have, and were getting reimbursed by the UK. Period, end of story.

      • Livvers says:

        @Jaded “You are speaking personally.” I believe you will see I can be directly quoted with the words “speaking personally” up above. While I am glad that Every Canadian you know is 100% happy with Harry and Meghan’s move away, I personally have witnessed Tall Poppy syndrome from Canadians, and I am not convinced that Every Canadian feels the same as your personal sample of Canadians. While I understand why you might disagree with a Canadian who feels snubbed by H&M decamping to LA, I think it would be an unverifiable statement to claim that no such Canadian exists. For instance, Emme up above.

        I want to reassure you, as you appear concerned that I have besmirched all Canadians, that I have never complained about Canada paying for Harry and Meghan’s security either online or in my personal life, and I was one of the 23% of Canadians who thought it was acceptable for us to do so, reimbursement or no reimbursement. Speaking personally, I do NOT think that their leaving the country is a slight against Canada, and I have every conviction that it was the right decision for them. While I did not equivocate when I said the _timing_ of this news is bad for public perception, since you feel I am putting words in your mouth, I will clarify that it is my _personal_ opinion that the timing of the news could be bad for public perception.

        I looked but could not find any reports about reimbursement of security costs to Canadians other than, between Jan 22-24, news reports that included a suggestion H&M might cover partial costs for private engagements in the future. Not that I care about it! We were legally obliged to cover their security while they were in Canada with International Protected Persons status, and I was happy (as a Canadian taxpayer– speaking personally) to meet international obligations. But blue36’s “(I believe they were getting reimbursed by the UK). That’s what I read on CBC.” and your “Period, end of story” is not quite as verifiable a statement of fact to me (speaking personally) as a professionally sourced news report would be.

      • Nic919 says:

        The pandemic is a way bigger issue right now in Canada than whatever costs there may have been to have the RCMP protect Meghan and Harry. Most Canadians don’t give a shit about royals and certainly don’t care about picayune issues like this.

      • Jaded says:

        @Livvers…the husband of one of my closest friends is an RCMP officer and investigator. He told me that the RCMP was being reimbursed by the UK government for a good part of the cost of their security. Think what you want. In any event who gives a rat’s a$$ about where they live, it’s their own business and if someone wants to get shirty about them leaving Canada, they need to get a life. If you want to go after someone with Tall Poppy Syndrome, go after Canadian billionaires like Galen Weston, Jim Pattison, Lino Saputo, etc. etc. Goodbye.

    • Bella DuPont says:

      Sussex Derangement Syndrome hard at work here.

  46. ABritGuest says:

    Not sure why anyone can talk seriously about optics when it comes to the BRF now especially after the Queen’s public support of Andrew.

    There’s nothing of use the Sussexes can do in England right now- in fact abolish the monarchy was trending on twitter this week because of how ineffectual the BRF have proven to be in this crisis. Some of that is not their fault but some is eg delay in addressing the crisis. The rest of the family is largely following what the Sussexes are doing in terms of SM focused comms anyway& not being too visible understandably. But if the Sussexes had come back to England like some have been calling for I guarantee press/critics would blame Meghan for putting Archie& other royal family members at risk. Literally yesterday there was Express headline attaching her name to coronavirus& then Fail story saying she had banned Harry from rushing to his ill father- even though Charles is self isolating so Harry wouldn’t be able to see him soon anyway.

    When she was first engaged the narrative from haters is that she was obsessed with Diana& plotted to join the family since she was young. Later Doria was going to move to England& sponge off taxpayers& Meghan was throwing tantrums about tiaras. Then when they asked to do royal duties part time& the QUEEN said no, the narrative changed to royal family was just her come up and she always intended to return to Hollywood plus Doria has managed this exit from afar. To some crazies she was a Z list nobody who somehow also managed to be in Epstein’s circle. She can’t win with these people-nothing she will do will be right to her haters so she has to do what feels right for her and her family.

    In terms of where they are to live if these latest reports are true (just yesterday many of these same papers had ‘sources’ about their life in Canada) maybe certain plans changed when they were told no to their suggested model& retired from royal duties. Could understand ‘Meghan has gone Hollywood’ if she had no connection to California but if these reports are true- she would be returning to where her and her son are citizens , where she grew up& where her mother (one of the few relatives of the Sussexes that HASNT briefed against them to the press) lives.

  47. ABritGuest says:

    Also as far as we are aware they still have Frogmore, still maintaining their U.K patronages& specifically their QCT roles. So who is to say they won’t still spend a decent time in the UK & still do work focused on commonwealth countries which may include following up on the shelter visits in Canada? Harry being a U.K. resident didn’t stop him setting up Sentabale based in Lesotho& engaging with that charity frequently. When they were in Canada over Christmas they still managed to promote that New Zealand social enterprise who made Archie’s hat just by posting a video on their insta.

    If anything this pandemic has shown that technology provides a lot of flexibility for some workers to work from home& has seen royals using videos &social media to share info, highlight their charities- see the RF’s Charity Tuesday posts. shows that this is a model they can use if they can’t always be physically present although sure there are some occasions were actual face time is important.

  48. yinyang says:

    I don’t think this is true, the press want to Meghan and Harry to be the antsy couple that want glamour always moving and busy, and Kate & William to be dependable comfortable Uk can count on blah blah blah. Fake news. I’ll only believe with my eyes or until Meghan says something. She wouldn’t post stay home if she’s moving all about.

  49. paddingtonjr says:

    I love how the BM is running circles trying to break the latest news and slandering the Sussexes in hopes of getting the Sussexes to speak out so the BM can say “see how difficult and irrelevant they are!! This is why we kicked them out!” But the Sussexes, especially Meghan, have just stayed on message, kept their social media focused on their causes and providing helpful information and generally lived their lives they want to.

  50. MeghanNotMarkle says:

    It’s from People so there’s at least a grain of truth to it. For some odd reason I’m sad they left Canada. I can’t really put my finger on it. Maybe I just romanticized the idea of their Vancouver hideaway too much. I hope they’re happy wherever they are, regardless.

    • ABritGuest says:

      According to People report just last week the Sussexes were going to spend the summer in LA& would get a place in LA and Canada. Who knows? Hope wherever they are they are they are well.

    • Bella says:

      Same here, MeghanNotMarkle! And I’m not even Canadian. But this has really made me look at Canada with new eyes. It looks gorgeous. Really attractive destination for a holiday and new life.

    • Dilettante says:

      People mag – summer in LA? Get a grip! Maybe winter in LA, summer on Vancouver Island.

      • MeghanNotMarkle says:

        That seems like the more sensible option, honestly. But I also don’t do cold and had the worst five years of my life up in the Pacific Northwest when my hubby was still in the Navy. I wouldn’t stay in Vancouver in the winter for anything.

    • Jaded says:

      @MeghanNotMarkle: Correction – they weren’t in Vancouver, they were on Vancouver Island. On the south tip. And BTW the weather here is quite different from Vancouver and much of the Pacific Northwest. On the south tip of the island we don’t get nearly as much rain, rarely does it snow, and the climate is very temperate. We even have palm trees here.

      • Lady D says:

        Nor is it a resort island as someone referred to it above. It’s mostly fishing and logging towns, a couple of provincial parks, a few B&B’s and a lot of forest. There is Whistler which is a resort ski lodge and of course Victoria, rich in history, but not a resort island.

      • Jaded says:

        Lady D – correct. Whistler is on the mainland but the island has world class skiing on Mt. Washington, and Victoria, where I live, is a stunning capital city with a vibrant history. BC also has the Haida Gwaii archipelago (formerly Queen Charlotte Islands) off the mainland west coast as well as numerous other islands (Salt Spring, Savary, Quadra, Gabriola, and many more).

      • Lady D says:

        Sorry Jaded, my bad. Of course Whistler is on the mainland. The Haida Gwaii archipelago has some of the most stunning scenery in the world. The Sea-to-Sky highway to Tofino and Uclulet is an incredibly scenic drive up the mountains. My two favourites are the ancient forest, Cathedral Grove. and Butterfly World and Gardens in Coombs where the goats are all over the roofs of the little shops. There is a tree in Cathedral Grove older than Columbus’s journey to the new world in 1492. One of the most beautiful islands in the world, and still primitive in spots. I was told that up north in the Port Hardy you shouldn’t leave your pets alone in the yard because cougars will take them.

      • MeghanNotMarkle says:

        I should’ve said ON Vancouver not IN. My bad. I do know the difference. I lived on an island in Northwestern Washington for five years and know the geography of the area pretty well. And yes, the weather on those islands is much better than the mainland. We still had more dark grey than I could handle but I was always grateful to not be in Seattle where it was dark all the time.

  51. morrigan01 says:

    Give me a f-ing break with this. Why they heck would Meghan and Harry *chose* to come to California during a pandemic when our state (because yes I live here, in the LA Area too) might be on the verge of becoming just like NY if we’re not lucky?

    And don’t anybody Say Doria. Meghan and Harry were more likely to bring Doria to Canada and get her out of the US and with them during this then they are likely to have go to LA.

    So yeah no, I don’t believe for one second they are here in LA. Especially not right now during this global disaster.

    • Le4Frimaire says:

      @Morrigon, I don’t find this story implausible and that place in Canada was always meant to be temporary. As some have said, maybe if they could still help represent the Queen, they would stay, but with that gone, and this situation, maybe they thought best to go back to Meghan’s home country and LA is her hometown. Alternative would be UK and we know how that went. How are they going to bring Doria to Canada when the border is closed to all foreigners, including Americans? Why? She’s better off for her own health staying in her own home, especially after those two were shaking hands in the UK. If they moved, they did it before that, although people are still moving in either direction to be repatriated. The state is currently in lockdown with almost all businesses and schools closed. They’re even closing parks and beaches. We’re anxious and watching the daily numbers of cases tick up, but this is our home, and unlike the president, our governor is doing as much as he can to try to slow the spread. I don’t care where they live because it’s their life.

    • Jaded says:

      @morrigan01: Meghan grew up in LA, she and her baby are American citizens, their 6 month Canadian visas were about to end so it’s only natural she would go home. You don’t seem to understand that you can’t keep taking out visa after visa here in Canada, you can request an extension but that is usually only for a few days or weeks and “royals” don’t get preferential treatment. Honestly, take your righteous indignation and rudeness somewhere else.

  52. Teel says:

    I can check to see if the gate is still tarped tomorrow. The place is about 5 minutes away from where I live.

  53. Thea says:

    When news of Charles and his COVID-19 positive news came out, they said that Charles spoke to his son in Canada. So either they were lying or this LA thing is fake (unless they moved after that statement).

    As a native Angeleno, I don’t see a problem with her moving to LA. Not everyone here is a fame whore. And living here doesn’t mean you can be a humanitarian.

  54. Nina says:

    Jason knauf or Kate And william’s Favorite employee and PR guy went at school in the same class than dan wootton.
    Now we know why William and Kate hired him and how dan wootton managed to get infos that he then twist to prop up William the bully and his wife.
    Fake mental health advocates I can’t stand this mafia family anymore

  55. Awkward symphony says:

    To those debating whether it was “right” for them to move (even if it’s a week before the restrictions were in place) I’ll remind you that this is NOT confirmed. Not even omid shared this YET

    • Olenna says:

      Agree, the move has not been confirmed, but it’s none of these complainers and concern trolls business where they live anyway. If these fools keep harping on what the Sussexes do or don’t do after 1 April, we’ll all know they’re nothing but fixated nutters.

  56. Marivic says:

    Is it possible that the leak came from one of their bodyguards- the RPOs ? These RPOs are still with them wherever they go, right ? Were they the ones who also leaked that they felt “demoted“ as they are asked to run errands and buy the Sussexes’ groceries ? Maybe this Wootton have direct access to one of them ? Or one of them leaked the move to LA to one of William’s RPOs and William leaked it to Wootton? If William/KP was the source, they got it all wrong. No one’s talking about the Cambridge children’s support for the NHS. Everybody’s talking about the Sussexes “great escape.”

    • ennie says:

      I really don’t think so.

    • MeghanNotMarkle says:

      I don’t think so, either. I think they’ve figured out by now who they can trust and who they can’t.

    • Nic919 says:

      If RPOs are going to leak it should be about Andrew’s crimes. But they are the equivalent of secret service and they don’t hit the media because it means they will never work as an RPO again.
      This nonsense comes from courtiers, who have leaked since the history of time in the British Court.

  57. GuestWho says:

    I would be satisfied if I were Anne too – doesn’t have to pay for anything, lives on a royal estate, bad marriages, lovers, her children are taken care of. She always has been kind of bad-ass, but I wouldn’t want my kids to grow up and behave like she has.

    Harry and Meghan continue to move? They were driven out of their first (rented) home by tabloids and their drone photographs that made that home unsafe. They moved into Frogmore. Life in the UK became untenable and they went and stayed in Canada while they figured out what they were going to do. They’re not Canadian citizens, so their time there was limited. They moved to the US where 2 out of the 3 of them are citizens. They chose LA – where she grew up, and where there are myriad business/charitable opportunities – I imagine their life there will be very different than the life you had there.

    These two have shown again and again that they are not aimless. They are both clearly planners, and they both get things done.

    • Olenna says:

      I saw the ‘Anne’s Wonderful Life’ comment you’re referring to and thought it was absurd and kinda tragic, with not one critical thought given to how Anne got where she is, acquire what she has, and is able to maintain it. Honestly, the person sounded like they were from another era (or dimension).

  58. Anonymous says:

    Before every border closing, officials advised citizens and permanent residents return to your home country NOW or risk getting stuck indefinitely. Neither Harry or Meghan are Canadian citizens with visas coming to an end. Doria isn’t Canadian, why risk going there with no return date? Meghan and Archie are American citizens. Harry is Meghan’s spouse. The three allegedly went to Meghan’s home state. What’s strange about that? High cases of COVID-19 doesn’t change New Yorkers, Californians, or Floridians state of resident.

    People abandon common sense when it comes to the Sussex family.

  59. Emms says:

    Can people just shut the hell up about this whole issue? Where they live is no one’s business. There are other members of the royal family living in other parts of the world eg Fred Windsor who work for J.P. Morgan . Clearly the royal family is afraid of what they’ll achieve outside of it. That’s why they’re trying to sabotage them and their future endeavors. It’s honestly sad and pathetic. My hope for them is that they make their coins and do their deals as Lowkey as possible. The people responsible for chasing them out are now trying to turn around and blame them.

  60. Marivic says:

    The only interesting and exciting about the RF, on an international perspective, are PHarry and Meghan and their baby Archie. Sorry about the rest .

  61. Snappyfish says:

    I’m with Florencia.

  62. Marivic says:

    Skimmed in Twitter. The atmosphere there is dark and vile. Horrible posters. It’s so heartbreaking for Meghan. But she’s not tungsten for nothing. They can’t break her spirit. Go girl !