Ellen DeGeneres hasn’t paid her crew in a month or checked in with anyone

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Ellen DeGeneres has been recording her talk show from home for several weeks now. All of the talk show hosts have been doing the same – Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, Stephen Colbert, and on and on. I think The View peeps are still going to the studio, but they’re just social-distancing and they don’t have an audience. We’re getting to see which hosts do well with low-fi and which hosts are basically garbage. Personally, I don’t think Ellen has handled it well, but to be fair, she’s seemed bored with her show for years now. As she’s shooting from home, she’s obviously using very few of her crew members and staffers. And since she’s not using them, she’s not paying them. Or showing any concern for them whatsoever. From Variety:

Crew members from Ellen DeGeneres’ long-running daytime talk show are distressed and outraged over their treatment from top producers amid the coronavirus pandemic, numerous insiders affiliated with the series told Variety. The core stage crew for “The Ellen DeGeneres Show,” consisting of more than 30 employees, received no written communication about the status of their working hours, pay, or inquiries about their mental and physical health from producers for over a month, said two sources, both of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity. Higher-ups in production would occasionally answer phone calls but reveal little, added one of the sources. The crew was further incensed by the show’s recent hire of an outside, non-union tech company to help DeGeneres tape remotely from her home in California.

When production executives finally did weigh in, nearly all crew members were told last week to brace for a 60% reduction in pay, even as the show continues to air, according to sources close to the matter. Only four core crew members currently work on the remote version of the broadcast, added insiders, who find this treatment to be totally inconsistent with DeGeneres’ daily message to her audiences: “be kind.”

For more than two weeks, from late March through April 9, crew members — from lighting to camera operators to grips — were left in the dark about if and how much they would be paid. Phone calls to crew members from a production coordinator at Telepictures, the Warner Bros. unit that produces “Ellen,” were sporadic and often lacking any information before and after the 14-day blackout. The lack of transparency continued as DeGeneres expanded her output from hosting four shows a week to five, shot over two days, said individuals with knowledge of the schedule. Radio silence from producers created anxiety among crew members who feared they would be furloughed and, in that case, would need to explore unemployment benefits.

Confounded, the “Ellen” crew sought information from colleagues on similar shows, many of whom had opposite experiences from theirs, said sources. “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” stagehands were paid from host Kimmel’s own pocket during initial COVID-19 shutdowns, two insiders familiar with that set told Variety, and since returning to the air network ABC is paying their full rates. “Last Week Tonight with John Oliver,” “Full Frontal with Samantha Bee,” and Showtime’s “Desus & Mero” have also all had transparent communication and are paying full rates, sources said. Spokespersons for those individual shows declined to comment on the matter.

[From Variety]

I didn’t know that about Kimmel paying people out of his own pocket, what a great guy. That’s great that so many other shows are looking out for their crews too – Desus & Mero is the only one I’ve watched with any regularity since the quarantine and they’re doing a great job with the banter via link-up from their separate homes. As for Ellen’s show… I know everyone likes to say that she’s a horrid person who treats people like garbage, and I completely believe those stories. But! This issue isn’t solely about her. She has producers and executive producers who are not communicating with people. Maybe it’s a top-down disregard for the welfare of peasants, but still. Even if Ellen doesn’t give a sh-t – and clearly she does not – then it’s still the responsibility of like five other people to communicate with staff and figure out this sh-t.

Comedian Ellen DeGeneres wearing Celine poses in the press room at the 77th Annual Golden Globe Awards held at The Beverly Hilton Hotel on January 5, 2020 in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles, California, United States.

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  1. Erinn says:

    I have to say Kimmel isn’t perfect – but he’s grown a lot over the years. He seems to genuinely care about his staff, which is a big gold star in my books.

    If you’d asked me months ago if 2020 was going to be the year that came for Ellen, I wouldn’t have said ever guessed it might be the case. There’s been rumors for SO long at this point, I figured nothing would ever change.

  2. Leah says:

    Also, have we noticed that she sure is making a buck from Purple Carrot (I’m sure she’s behind Portia’s videos) DURING the crisis? So she’s capitalizing on the pandemic while refusing to pay her staff. Awful, she’s wretched.

    • AnnaKist says:

      I can’t stand her. I can’t stand her show. She’s got enough of the readies to retire into the background.

      • SM says:

        That sums up quite well how I feel about her. She is so full of herself she is unwatchable. Also it is funny how all these attention thirsty celebrities are letting the cameras into their homes and hope that will earn them popularity, will help them stay relative and somewhat show how they are like the rest of us mortals, self isolating, zooming from their living room, wearing sweats, etc. What I found though is that Michael Bubble is an abusive psychopath under that romantic persona and Ellen is not only horrible, self-centred and hypocritical but she seems also to be psychologically manipulating/abusing her wife. They keep posting videos of Portia cooking, and those interactions make me extremely uncomfortable. Ellen continuously talks down on her and seems dismissive of her. So I have a suspecting she is horrible to everyone. Portia as she talked about it, has suffered greatly from low self esteem, so to be treated like she is in her own house while working in the kitchen seems absolutely horrible. This is at least the vibe I get from what I saw

      • minx says:

        She is the worst, insufferable with that layer of meanness she tries unsuccessfully to hide. Who watches her crappy show?

  3. Seraphina says:

    Kaiser, I put blame on Ellen. She should know better as a grown adult what she should do. The buck stops with her, the show is named after her. Her staff look up to her and she is letting them down. I too believe the stories about her. This virus is bringing people and business in their true light. Like the mega corporations that took money meant for small businesses. It’s all the same.

    • Esmom says:

      I agree completely. She is the high profile face of the show and absolutely is responsible for whatever is going on.

      • Seraphina says:

        Esmom, yes, and I will vent some more because it ties in: I am tired of people high up the totem pole not taking the responsibility of their position seriously enough and everyone chucking it up to lack of communication from those around to let them know. It happens here, government agencies, the president and the QoE. There comes a time where empathy is required. And I’m glad to see who has and who does not.

      • Mac says:

        I’m sure Ellen’s show hires the best of the best. They won’t be so easy to replace when this is all over.

    • Frida_K says:

      I agree with both of you, @Seraphina and @Esmom.

      Truly, she has no excuse. To blow off her staff is shameful and disgusting. Imagine how scared and scrambled they must be feeling right now, and then cut to clips of her in her multi-million dollar home, complaining about her struggles with being quarantined.

      I hope that her staff gets jobs with decent people and that she has a hard time rebuilding her support system. She clearly has shown that she is in no way a decent steward of them.

      I’ve never liked her. I hate her so-called “pranks,” many of which seem mean and mean-spirited.

      Her behavior now does not surprise me one bit. I hope that she is shunned for it.

      • Totally agree Freida_K. I used to be a big fan of Ellen’s, but it became harder and harder to ignore the sporadic stories over the years of how badly she treats her staff and how some of her pranks began to look like bullying. I remember watching that episode where — in my opinion then and now — she bullied and shamed Meghan Markle into adopting a dog. No one should force or shame another into an action like that. I know they are ‘good friends’ now that Meghan’s status has grown, but at the time Meghan was an actress being pushed around on camera by a number one rated media influencer. And now this issue with her staff. Ellen is the show. She has made that very clear that she runs it, she determines the rules, so the buck stops with her. She has more than enough time to tell us all how bored she is, then she has more than enough time to make sure her entire team is taken care of. Ellen is truly an overpaid, narcissistic ass in my opinion. I’m over her.

      • Ewissa says:

        I read somewhere that she is not actually even using her crew to film from her home.She appointed new /another company to do it while her crew is available jobless and pennyless.Yes so much for her Be kind!!

    • bekindbekindbekind says:

      Yes, there’s no “protocol” when it comes to being a decent person. The show has her name on it. She owns a big piece. And she is in it only for herself.

      She’s a spoiled brat who treats people like garbage with a veneer of
      niceness” that is complete hypocrisy.

      The only public statement she’s made since this began was complaining that she was bored at home.

      Let’s stop for a minute and imagine the size of any of Ellen’s many homes compared to 98% of the rest of the world.

    • dilettante says:

      Who leads? The person at the top. They set the tone. Ellen is the one responsible here.

  4. MCV says:

    Can’t wait for her downfall.

    • Jaded says:

      The bigger they are the harder they fall. It’s a times like this where a person’s true character comes out and it appears in Ellen’s case it’s pretty ugly. Her time will come….Karma catches up.

    • Bowtie says:

      Her DM articles always attract a lot of comments from people claiming to be in the know about her “real personality.” I know what’s for sure is an ethical vegan selling leather shoe lines isn’t ethical.

  5. tempest prognosticator says:

    What an unpleasant person. Good to know.

  6. Amy says:

    Good for those shows that are paying all their crew! That is fantastic and I am happy they are doing that because those shows don’t work without a lot of people we never see or hear of.

    As for Ellen, that is disgusting she could help them out, not use a non union crew and if she couldn’t pay them full salaries (i mean she makes $50 million so she should) she could at least be transparent with them. The idea of not knowing during this is terrible. All companies need to be honest and forthright during this.

  7. Digital Unicorn says:

    Have never been a fan, she always came across as uber fake to me and have read many many stories of how mean she really is over the years. A, glad it’s finally all coming out.

    Plus in the last photo – what has she done to her face!

  8. CidyKitty(CidySmiley) says:

    Ellen has showed her @ss so many times. But Kaiser has a point, there is a chain of command that should also be responsible for making sure things like this doesnt happen.

    • pottymouth pup says:

      chain of command starts at the top. this is her show and she is, for all intents & purposes, the CEO. this is her responsibility

  9. manda says:

    It really bums me out that she is a crap person, just because I remember watching her standup in the late 80s and early 90s, and she was so. freaking. funny! But I guess that a lot of comedians are sort of dark and unhappy, which is crazy to me, but I guess the way it is. She really needs some comeuppance and I am here for it

  10. Astrid says:

    There is a chain of command and the direction ultimately comes from Ellen, whether she explicitly says something or not.

    • cheche says:

      Surely Ellen is a producer of the show? She is part of the chain of command. And likely aware of what other talk show hosts are doing regarding staff. Even if they do a salary cut 20% should be the max. The show is still getting revenue from commercials.
      Using a different crew and not communicating with staff is inexcusable. My company doesn’t know what’s going to happen either but we get regular updates with target dates (“This is plan now, we will reassess situation on May15”)

  11. Darla says:

    She squats on a pile of money up in her castle, while crapping on the team that helped her make it. Don’t watch her show, period. It’s time for this asshole to end.

  12. OriginalLala says:

    The fish stinks from the head – if her producers etc treat the employees like garbage that’s because of the work culture she has created. She sounds like such a a**hole.

  13. Flamingo says:

    I think it is time for Ellen to retire and focus on her other ventures. She seems to be quite checked out. I’m probably not her target audience, but the few times I’ve caught her show in the last year or so, she seems almost irritated to be there.

    • Sarah says:

      Absolutely. Her disdain for the audience members, especially when she’s doing games and “pranks” is quite obvious. She needs to just stop the show if she hates it that much.

    • lucy2 says:

      I agree. She could even maintain ownership and act as a producer, and hand it over to someone else to host.

      That show rebooted her career, and as a result she has made hundreds of millions of dollars, from the show itself and all the other deals its popularity led to. I truly can’t imagine not paying the crew that makes that happen. I bet Samantha Bee doesn’t make a fraction of what Ellen does (even though she’s AWESOME) and she’s still paying her crew!

    • MrsPanda says:

      I agree, Flamingo – she’s been bored and checked out for a long time. She continues on though because she feeds off the power. I had a boss like that. I always wondered why she did her job (Senior Management) but was so nasty and bitter (especially toward underlings). My boss was loaded and money wasn’t an issue. It’s about power. She’d only give up the show ”ELLEN” if she found a fitting replacement that gave her the Narcissist supply of having (and producing) her own show.

  14. Prof Trelawney says:

    I think people show their true colors in a crisis. And it’s not just Ellen, some places are really stepping up, and that’s been great to hear. Where I work tho, it’s been v ugly. I’m working at a college where the top execs haul in millions, and they’re bullying faculty to take pay cuts, add courses, increase course sizes, lose our bonuses and research grants, contribute to an emergency fund, on and on… Meanwhile their pay? Not to be questioned… So yeah…we’re “sharing” the burden as a “family” when they need us to work overtime to go virtual or counsel our students through the crisis, but when it’s about sharing risks or costs, it’s all on us. And not a single whiff of either gratitude or even just basic human concern for our well-being. Some of my colleagues are like “well, they’re under stress.” Yes, we all are… But when people show you who they are believe them. It’s been pretty crushing tbh.

    • Frida_K says:

      This is why I’m against “free college for everyone.” In America, what that will mean is that the content providers (aka the faculty) will be providing the content for a paltry sum. Meanwhile, the administrative technocracy will rake in the big bucks.

      I have no sympathy for admincritters who grow fat sucking the blood of faculty. None. In my estimation, they are the ones who need to take a pay cut, not their faculty and certainly not the adjuncts.

      • Prof Trelawney says:

        As Big said on SATC Abso-f-ing-lutely. It’s become so predatory toward students as well as faculty…for years, and I think we’re on the cusp of a major transformation… Get back to the basics of educating young minds and away from all of the exec bloat … Thanks Frida K, it’s been bad for a while but I honestly had no idea how really awful, possibly even sociopathic they are…

    • Excellent comment Professor. And so very true!

  15. Izzy says:

    If she told her producers and the network that she wanted to make sure her crew was taken care of, it would happen. The star of a show of this magnitude has enough pull. It absolutely comes back to her. She sits in her golden castle and screws over the peasants.

    • damejudi says:

      This.

      It’s not difficult to step up and do what’s right when you’re as powerful as Ellen.

      She could even say, I get that there’s union stuff and maybe it’s complicated, but for now I’m going to pay you. There’s no way it hasn’t occurred to her “Hey, what’s happening with my team? Are they struggling? Are they scared?” If she has presence of mind to go hire a non-union crew, she can damn well look after the rest of her team.

    • Carol says:

      Would it though? Yeah, she is a big star but maybe her show doesn’t have the budget to pay her staff during the crisis? Do daytime talk shows have the same budget as late night? I’m sure ad rates are higher for late night shows. But I do agree that she should at least communicate with her employees during the crisis even if she doesn’t have any answers. Just to check in and see how they are doing. Or have her producers check in with their teams.

  16. Nina says:

    With the exception of Finding Nemo she’s always been too smugnorant for my liking, so I’m glad other people are going off her too.

  17. Anna says:

    How awful.

    Does anybody know if Late Night with Seth Meyers or Conan O’Brien are paying their workers? I hope so. Husband and I like them and it’s sad to hear about people like Ellen letting their employees take the hit like this.

    My own company furloughed some employees (thankfully not my position) and I side eyed the top execs pretty hard when the news came out. Awful to see how many places are willing to screw over their employees yet the wealthiest execs and owners make very little to no change.

  18. Valiantly Varnished says:

    This issue absolutely is about her. If Ellen Degeneres stood up for her crew members like Im sure all of the above mentioned hosts did and probably had to to ensure they continued to be paid it would make a difference. How about she forgo HER pay to offset it?? The woman is worth 50mil she can afford to forgo a paycheck to ensure her crew members can meet their BASIC needs. All it would take is her going to her network and standing up for them. She’s choosing not to do so. And that speaks volumes

    • Sean says:

      I’d like to correct you on something – Ellen is currently worth $490 million and her reported salary is $75 million. She could easier support her crew while not having to worry at all about having to fend for herself.

      She’s an asshole. Plain and simple.

  19. Kelly Darksin says:

    She’s never been funny. Or likable. Or…anything really. The normies were really dubbed by this one.

    Also, why does nobody mention her ankle bracelet in her home photos?

  20. Lisa says:

    Wow. My kids watch her game show and I sat and watched with them one day too and all I could think was “why is she doing this? Is she under contract?” She looks and acts miserable and these contestants are going nuts and it makes me soooo uncomfortable. This effusive love to someone for them to clearly act like spending hours with you in exchange for millions is just a total nuisance and she’s doing you a favor. Ugh

  21. MellyMel says:

    After everything I’ve read about her and how she treated her staff prior to this virus, none of this is surprising. She’s not a good person like she pretends to be.

  22. Allergy says:

    Loser.

  23. pineapple says:

    No wonder she is friends with George Bush.

  24. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    What a royal witch! She comes into the industry all loud, making grand gestures for change, entertaining masses, and this is how she wants to exit? Done.

  25. LeonsMomma says:

    Met her behind the scenes at a fundraiser years ago. My friend and I both came away thinking she was “squirllly,” not one thing she did, but we both got the feeling she wasn’t a pleasant person to be around. Or just basic fake, based on when a big celeb (a good friend with the friend I was with) showed up and all of a sudden Ellen was “on.” Turns out big celeb (I can’t and wont’ name!) was not a fan either, based on how Ellen treated the people around her. (So I have been hearing how Ellen is a shit to employees and people in general for a long time.)

  26. S808 says:

    Everyone says Ellen being an asshole is one of the worst kept Hollywood secrets.

  27. SJR says:

    I have never liked Ellen. She is a big phony!
    Isn’t she worth around $300million? Owns a ton of expensive real estate, etc, etc?
    Jam a crowbar in your wallet, you cheapskate, and pay your team.
    I am really fed up with some of these celeb clowns..making a list of those I plan to boycott when the US reopens.
    Done.

  28. Teebee says:

    I assume she is aware of the current drubbing her rep is taking right now. No way she isn’t in discussions about her brand and her future and any backlash that she is experiencing.

    That she hasn’t made some attempts to counter or dispel it is telling. I can just see her digging in her heels even more stubbornly. I think she must have a massive ego and will not brook criticism. Perhaps she’ll just quit out of spite, telling herself that her ungrateful staff will be sorry now! That if the world couldn’t appreciate her and all the good she’s done, then screw them.

    Indeed, in times of crisis we see people for who they are.

  29. Hollah says:

    She was a guest on Conan O’Brien’s podcast not too long ago and was a total drag. She also made a snide comment about people always wanting free shit at the show. I don’t watch the show but based on her vibe in that interview she sounded totally over it.

    • Tiffany says:

      I didn’t even listen to it just for this alone. Everyone that does that podcast is funny, open and the right level of snide (normally at Conan’s expense which makes it work) where all of it is enjoyable. She is just not.

  30. Brinibini says:

    She’s an executive producer, she knows what’s happening.

    It just shows that she’s greedy. She so obviously hates doing the show, but she keeps doing it because it makes her millions that she doesn’t like to share.

  31. Keroppi says:

    Kevin T. Porter had a twitter thread last week asking for stories about Ellen being mean. Quite the eye-opening read!

  32. Upwealthy says:

    I love Ellen’s show.

  33. Amelie says:

    There have been stories about her for years but I think the non-communication with her filming crew during these last few weeks and using mostly a production crew NOT from her show to film at home have really opened people’s eyes to her lack of care for the people who work for her. Roxane Gay was tweeting about her surprise at all this and somewhere in the comments there was a Twitter thread about people tweeting various stories about Ellen they had heard or experienced in person about how horribly she treated people.

    Among those stories I did not realize that Karen Kilgariff, one of the cohosts for the My Favorite Murder podcast, was a head writer on Ellen for many years. I can’t remember the particulars but it involved the 2007 WGA strike and Karen was fired from the show because she refused to “cross the picket line” not sure what that means… that she fired Karen for going on strike with the other writers? That made me go WTF because Karen is so amazingly talented and I’m a huge fan.

  34. IntheKnow says:

    People have been afraid of speaking out against Ellen due to fear of being seen as a homophobe; and Ellen has hidden her nastiness behind peoples’ fear of being seen as homophobe.

    She is gross and unlikeable. Never watched her show and never will. She is nauseating and not funny at all. I wonder what Portia sees in her…

  35. Bunny says:

    For someone who is worth so much (I’ve seen 330 million), and who owes so much to so many – these “stars” are only as successful as their staffs – Ellen seems to think she stands alone, got to where she is alone, and owes her employees nothing. She couldn’t be more wrong.

    This is such a scary, terrible time for so many people. Ignoring the needs of your employees while you sit in one of your mansions is unconscionable.

    Wishing only the very best for her staff, hoping they each find secure jobs with compassionate employers.

    • Deering24 says:

      Your stardom = your staff is a lesson too many of these folks never learn. And here I was thinking Steve Harvey was the worst in the “mess your crew over” department…

  36. Hyrule Castle says:

    There was a pretty awesome thread on Twitter, not long ago, about the horrible things she’s done.

    She’s been awful for years.

    • keroppi says:

      I mentioned that above as well :) I couldn’t stop reading through that thread.

      Here is a link to it if anyone is interested:
      https://twitter.com/KevinTPorter/status/1241049881688412160

      I’ve never really watched her show but did enjoy some segments in the early years. I stopped partly because she is a terrible interviewer. I stopped long before all the pranks and scares. That would be so annoying to watch and experience!

      One of the things that came up in that thread is her relationship with Portia and how it’s not necessarily the healthiest relationship.

      • Ali says:

        One of the things that came up in that thread is her relationship with Portia and how it’s not necessarily the healthiest relationship.

        That was my first thought as well.

  37. Cassie says:

    God I’ve hated her ever since she publicly shamed a dog adoption org. She straight up gave a dog she’d adopted to someone else, which is nearly always explicitly stated in adoption contracts to not do – you need to contact the organization if a dog isn’t working out. Naturally the org asked for the dog back to ensure the right home, and she went on a crying rampage on her show about how she was victimized. It really affected the org doing good work when all her rabid fans harassed them. I sincerely hope she receives backlash and just fades into the background

  38. Peony says:

    This is appalling.
    And the non-communication is disappointing. Since mid of march, I got ZERO news from my line managers beside some formal mails send to all employees. It cost nothing to send an sms to know how your team is doing, or a 5mn call….
    Moral support is so important during this crazy time…

    Sending to everyone good vibes +++

  39. February Pisces says:

    In the UK no one cares about Ellen at all, she most certainly isn’t worshiped like in the US. I’m not surprised she’s been exposed for being an A-hole, she seems like the sort of celeb who only ever kisses up to other celebs and treats everyone else like shit. I’ve heard the same thing about James Corden. I saw the twitter thread, and she literally blanks staff who say hello to her.

  40. chans says:

    what I’ve come to realise, is that despite her friendly persona, Ellen is an asshole.

  41. Valerie says:

    I can’t stand her, never have been able to. I always thought she was phony, and the last few years have borne that out. And now this.

  42. No Doubt says:

    I noticed that she was a “mean girl” years ago. If she didn’t want to pay her crew, fine, but at least communicate with them. My company has sent updates weekly and the higher ups have even called or texted us to see how we are holding up.

  43. Soupie says:

    Why does this B still have fans? Why does she still have a show?

    I started seeing her fake a– phoniness toward most of her guests ( not all) years ago. Didn’t a whole lot of us?? Wasn’t surprised to hear she’s a terrible person – putting it mildly.

  44. Lisabella says:

    MCV I agree with you. I have NEVER cared for her – I am a great judge of character 😊

  45. Deanne says:

    Ellen has come across as an incredibly mean person for a long time now. The constant scaring of people. Having her producer Andy humiliate himself and even get injured for her entertainment, Dousing people with water, or throwing paint, food etc. into their faces and onto their clothes in order to win a stupid television. Having celebrities wear a wire and say the idiotic things she tells them to say, to people who are just trying to do their jobs is obnoxious. It’s all mean and I don’t find any of it funny. She doesn’t give away her own money on the show. It’s all sponsors who do it. Her whole “be kind to one another” is the opposite of what she actually seems to do in her real life.

  46. paddingtonjr says:

    The very least, and I mean the very least, Ellen could do is be transparent. Yes, people are upset about pay reductions and layoffs, but I think the lack of communication is making it worse. Studios are shut down, but prep work is still be done and her crew could be working on other projects. It is her show, she is the public face of the show and people will defer to her. She owes her crew at least some honesty about what is being done and what the plan is going forward.

  47. Noodle says:

    The content on your website royally sucks. Thanks for reminding me about the importance of entertainment “journalism” 🙄.

  48. Jana says:

    She makes 70 million dollars a year…why is her staff getting stiffed? I mean at what point do you have enough money? She’s 62 years old, she can’t live long enough to spend 475 million dollars!

  49. Rosita says:

    She’s an elitist. What did you expect.

  50. lili says:

    Uber-rich, I really don’t like her even more. Kudos to Kimmel though. He really seems like a great guy, out of his own pocket, nice and thoughtful. Yet Ellen doesn’t care.

  51. Mae says:

    This really shows how a persons character is. I have heard this about her by so many people who know people who have worked there. I feel like she has fallen sort of like how Rosie did. The queens of nice aren’t really that nice. I guess its like if someone says they are so honest…run they are probably a liar. If someone presents as the nicest, kindest ever….run. You are just kind and nice you do tell people you are. This is a true check for Ellen. I hope this is a real gut check. As the world watches her and Portia drink wine and make “funny” videos of cooking these fancy meals her staff is struggling. Makes me sick.

  52. Nibbi says:

    One would think that being a long-time multi-kajillionaire with mountains of pull in the entertainment industry and “be kind” as a motto would mean at least being able to care of one’s own people, the ones who have contributed to her success, during a catastrophe.

    Dead to me. Done.