I don’t have the energy or the desire to do a ton of commentary on this one, mostly because I wrote off Piers Morgan years ago, and I’m irritated that anyone gives him air. Some simple facts. Piers Morgan was one of the many journalists/editors to get caught up in the Leveson Inquiry about hacking. Piers also tried to make his brand of nasty Britishness happen in America, and we sent him packing. He met then-Meghan Markle once before she became a duchess, and he’s spent the past three years dining out on that fact. Starting in 2018, Piers became Meghan’s biggest critic, smearing her and attacking her regularly in print (he’s a Daily Mail columnist) and on air (he’s co-host of Good Morning Britain). He also interviewed Thomas Markle several times, and during all of those interviews, I had the distinct sense that Toxic Tom was merely reading off a script written for him by Morgan. Piers has spent two full years trying to make a name for himself by destroying the Duchess of Sussex by any means possible. And now… well, he has regrets?
Piers Morgan has admitted his criticisms of Meghan Markle on Good Morning Britain and from his social media account went “too far”. In an interview with The Sunday Times, the presenter addressed his controversial outbursts against Markle, along with a number of his other public grievances. Morgan has previously accused Markle and Prince Harry of showing a “staggering disrespect” to the Queen over their decision to step back as senior royals.
He branded those who claimed that Markle’s treatment in the press and by the public was fuelled by racism as “race-baiting pundits who want to be on TV”. He has also dismissed accusations that his own criticisms of Markle were driven by racism and sexism. In 2018, a Daily Mail column written by the GMB host attacked the former Suits star as a “social climbing actress” who “landed the role of her life” by becoming involved with the royal family.
In January this year, Morgan leaked screenshots of his direct messages with Markle on Twitter, leading many to suggest that Morgan’s vendetta was due to Markle ending her contact with him, after her relationship with Prince Harry was made public.
During the interview, journalist Decca Aitkenhead informed the presenter that she felt his vendetta against Markle had made him look “ugly”, and asked whether, in hindsight, he would have “dialled any of it down”.
“Yeah, probably,” Morgan responded. “I think that’s a perfectly fair criticism. It’s probably not wise, if you’re a columnist, to make things too personal. Have I taken things a bit too far? Probably. Do I think that will govern and temper how I talk about them going forward? Absolutely.”
Again, I don’t care enough to get in the weeds on this one, because there’s a big ugly Piers-shaped snake in those weeds. I’ll just say that I don’t think Piers Morgan suddenly just realized that he took things way too far. I do think that this is probably related to the (scripted) interviews he did with Thomas Markle, and it’s related to Meghan’s lawsuit against the Mail, a publication which still employs Morgan as a columnist. It might even be related to Harry and Meghan’s larger lawsuit against the British tabloids, especially since Morgan used to work for one of the publications which was known to hack into the phones of royals and celebrities.
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He’s deranged. I feel like, when people get a hate-on for someone they don’t know, they really don’t understand how deranged they look. And, when they rant on and on, especially about what motivates the object of their hate-on, they’re telling you all about themselves. They’re not telling you about the other person, because they can’t do that. It’s all a confession. Honestly, often even if you do know someone, that’s what’s at play. I’ve always said, if someone is describing you to someone else, and you don’t recognize anything they’re saying, listen closely, what you’re hearing is a confession. I learned this the hard way. But, since I learned it, it’s been very interesting. I’ll tell ya. Very interesting.
Agreed 100 percent. Celebrity especially is a mirror. Unless one really knows the people involved, much of what we project on them is a reflection of ourselves. What is the name of that phenomenon? Not just projection. Where we dislike in others what we dislike in ourselves, or we suspect others will behave in ways that we ourselves would behave in that scenario (such as worrying about others stealing, lying, etc.)
I read once that the reason you don’t like someone, is you dislike something in them that you recognize in yourself.
In Psychology we call this Spontaneous Trait Inference.
Whatever crap you spew about other people is likely a reflection of your personal feelings about yourself.
Basically, if you feel like garbage, and you are garbage, you are going to talk garbage. This is important for anyone to consider when they are about to make a less than kind comment. Whoever you are speaking to is more likely to relate your negative comment directly back to you than the person whom you are trying to speak poorly of.
With a few notable and worthless exceptions, namely Trump and his family (minus his youngest son), Mitch McConnell, Pence, Betsy DeVos, etc. Never in my life did I believe I could so despise and detest a group of people I’ve never met and yet here I am.
Thank you for introducing me to this term, “hate-on.” I’ve been trying to put into words certain white men’s obsessive hatred of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ever since she was elected to office. This is what these men have: a “hate-on” for her.
Trouble is, in his case, that kind of hate earns him and his masters a lot of cash, because people read his garbage and watch his show. Worse still, they perpetuate and propagate that hate, and can’t see that they are being played. Just like sex, hate sells.
He’s a pasty bloated POS. He’ll get his, someday.
I read somewhere a long time ago that we don’t see people as they are, we see them as we are.
A “bit” too far? That’s rich Piers, really rich.
This was my first take, too! A “bit” too far! And he only said it after being called out.
He’s another potatohead dude.
WORD.
SIT DOWN TRICK.
Yes. I don’t understand how he can say that bullying Meghan daily for years is a bit too far. It’s over the top psychotic.
And “probably” took it too far. It will “probably” temper his voice going forward. Oh, I hope this tiny step back is due to the fact that he will be buried in the upcoming lawsuits.
Yep. This is not an apology, but no surprise there.
I’d like to punch his face “a bit”. He’s got that kind of face. 🥊
Something we’ve known for months. It was vicious and it was cruel, and none of it true. And that pic of Sr. saying “There has to be a place for me, I’m her father,” makes my physically ill. Piers did nothing but use the abusive bastard to badger and humiliate Meghan. So this “a bit too far” BS is just that. Only now he looks back and admits it? The abuse was at the point where he should have been sued for it, ffs.
This man is truly vile. His obsession with Meghan is really scary.
He always seemed to me the type of man who, when gets rejected by a woman goes unhinged. Since hearing the story of how he says Meghan “ghosted” him, I’ve thought that he was probably trying to romance her, and Meghan was just trying to be nice, and when he took that too far & she realized what he was doing she decided to stop seeing him, & he got his ego hurt. He’s the type of guy that would ask a girl out, and if she turned him down nicely, he would scream at her and say she’s ugly anyways. Basically, a big man baby with a fragile ego. The only mistake Meghan ever made was agree to meet him. He is vile.
100 percent. In the real world, he’d be stalking her in person and harassing her, showing up at her work and at private events. In the celebrity world, he can bash her in media and threaten her with his racist followers to feel power over her. And I’m sure he still stalks her through media tips.
This douche has an eight-year-old daughter. Perhaps he learned the meaning of Karma?
Yeah, that really is how he comes across in his behavior toward her and other women. Part of it is obviously about staying relevant by going after low hanging fruit, but it also seems more than a little incel-ish too.
This is difficult to deny. He comes across as a sleazy, vindictive bastard.
That’s totally him.
I agree and I agree with the others that he would be the type of man that would insult and try to belittle a woman who would turn him down for a date. He is a vile and vindictive creature who is a blight in society. I hope that his run as a tv host and columnist collapses and he dies a lonely penniless pheasant with no one around him. How anyone could love or like this man is beyond my capabilities. He and Drumpf would be great buddies too!
He really seems like someone you would see on one of those Discovery ID shows like “Evil Lives Here” or “Terror Next Door.” His would be named “Bloated Ego at the Deranged Tabloid Rag.” All kidding aside I bet he is a joy to the people in his real life…. gross
You know, I like to think that anyone can grow and change and become better human beings but I also believe that when someone shows/tells you who they are, you should believe them. Piers has not issued any sort of apology to Meghan and has only admitted that he “probably” took things too far. So, if Mr. Morgan truly wants to become a better human being he has lots and lots of work to do, until then I’ll still think of him as I have for quite some time.
I agree, Harla, but I don’t think this is about growing into a better human being or about regrets for Morgan. I agree with Kaiser, this is about the lawsuits and he is back peddling. For 3 years, day in and day out, Morgan has been the leader of the rabid press pack. He has encouraged and promoted the nastiest rumors and suppositions about Meghan and now he suddenly blows it off, with…..”maybe a tad to far”. That is NOT an apology, it is a justification of his behavior! I do not believe him and I don’t think he’s changed. He needs to publicly apologize directly to Meagan and also Harry and spend more than 30 seconds doing it. Then he needs to start doing reasoned reporting on the Sussexes. I’m not holding my breath on any kindness coming from him.
Maya Angelou said: “When someone shows you who they are the first time, believe them”.
I’m so glad Ive never read the bad stuff about Megan. Know Piers was part of that makes me even more glad I didnt see it. I’m Norwegian and have never seem bad stuff about her in Norwegian or international media. Piers is trash, vile trash.
What fresh insanity is this? Piers has developed introspection? Not buying it. He smells the free ride is over and he is going to be caught up in the legal case. All his harassing didn’t make her drop the case. It didn’t work. And where is dear daddy Thomas? Thought he was going to give an interview a month. Did the offers dry up? He has been suspiciously silent since M&H moved to California.
Oh yeah, the monthly interviews – I forgot about that!
The thing that struck me most about his comments, was that he said something along the lines of “it’s when people are dying” that he’s at his best? And that when things are quiet, he gets nasty…
Should we basically be hoping for pandemics just to keep this man from being a complete bully? He needs some serious self reflection, if he thrives in awful situations.
That line also felt like it was grossly alluding to Diana in the car.
Wait… he said that?
He sure did
“It’s the stuff that is substantial, particularly when people’s lives are at stake, that seems to galvanise my personality into the best possible place,” he said.
“And it’s times of relative peace, calm, quiet and dare I say boredom that might occasionally bring out the worst in me.
“Having squabbles with people who are never going to change their mind in a million years about stuff that no longer seems remotely important.”
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/piers-morgan-meghan-markle-duchess-of-sussex-sunday-times-interview_uk_5eb79f98c5b6c3bd87007902
Wow! I assumed he had no self-awareness, but he is 100% is; he just has no conscious.
This speaks volumes of the low bar that is set for white men from a certain background. That he can literally boast about having shitty behaviour and still have a career intact says everything really.
“Having squabbles with people who are never going to change their mind in a million years about stuff that no longer seems remotely important.”
That is literally what his life is. Imagining having such a big platform and using it to ‘have squabbles’. He was getting really nasty towards non-binary people before the pandemic. He probably thinks its all theatre, but there are very real consequences to his words.
He hosted Tom Markle on a talk show where Markle ranted about his daughter.
Repeatedly.
Piers has become somewhat of a media darling in the UK since he has very vocally criticized the UK government’s handling of the covid-19 response.
But I will never forgive his treatment of Meghan. He literally screamed on national TV that she ‘should go home’, was constantly egging on that useless dad, and was just so unbelievably vicious. He even referred to Chinese farms as ‘Ching Chong farms’ and there was no backlash – just business as usual.
The tweet he leaked of hers was literally a DM from Meghan saying ‘thank you for following me, I’m a fan’ She did not lie, say anything horrible or was trying to seduce/ manipulate him.
And this whole ‘ disrespecting the queen’ farce. He doesn’t even speak to the queen.
If his show did prep Thomas Markle, I hope it comes out in the trial.
I’m not sure how true this is, but I did hear the reason why he left CNN was a spate of sexual harassment incidents which resulted in several NDAs – after seeing how he behaved with Meghan, I would not be surprised if that was the case. There is no way a man with his ego would rather be ranting on UK daytime TV instead of having his own primetime show on an international news channel like CNN.
I think his behaviour was partly personal; he was genuinely mesmerised by her. These British upper class lot (and am including the media circle) are so dry and crusty, Meghan a completely out of any of their leagues.
I also think it was a professional decision; he was egged on by the Producers for ratings, the nasty tabloid press (they are all part of the same social circle), the trolls and the ratings (everything is a hit when the Sussexes are concerned). Maybe he believed his own hype and now people are praising him for taking the Government to town, he wants to be taken more seriously and realises that attacking Meghan wasn’t a good look?
One thing I am sure of is, no way, absolutely no way was he able to get as low as he did, without some sort of permission from the Palace. These people all mix in the same circles, they’re friends with each other, they go to the same schools, as do their children. Somewhere down the road, he KNEW that the Palace was ok with this.
He was a complete ratings failure in the US and cut quickly from his contract.
Co-sign
Did you guys notice that DM comments are “moderated in advance” for articles about TQ, Cambridges, Andrew, etc, but not for H&M? That’s why the commenters are able to run rampant with their racism and hate. Well yesterday, right after Piers posted his bullsh*t “apology”, the next story posted about H&M had moderated comments. Something bigger is happening, whether it has to do with the lawsuit (likely), Piers about to get fired (hopefully), or something else.
That’s really interesting! It certainly seems like there’s something deeper in the waters…
Huh. That’s interesting. I wonder if someone finally told Piers and the DM how they look to those who don’t loathe Meghan and Harry.
Wait, am confused. Did Piers write a separate ‘apology’ article in the DM and this interview was a separate interview? If that’s a case; it seems like he’s doing some sort of apology tour…
This seems to be more than a coincidence that they are finally moderating comments for H and M stories and that Piers is acknowledging he went too far.
There has got to be a lawsuit related reason for all this. They wouldn’t do it otherwise. Not after years of this.
I’ve been worried for a while that all the hate aimed at H&M would lead to violence against them and their baby.
Piers and his unhinged, personally-motivated attacks are part of the larger legal issue surrounding the tabloids, honest reporting, the “public interest” and the personal safety of his targets.
The Sussexes likely have a good case for suing the tabloids. The media played a huge role in Diana’s death and I suspect that Harry could burn down the entire monarchy to prevent his wife and son from being hounded to death.
Harry truly sees this as a matter of life and death (and he is justified!) Piers is just whining to keep his job and his fortune- and he could lose both in this fight if the Sussexes start fighting back.
I was genuinly worried that she might have lost the baby – the absolute viciousness directed at her during her pregnancy was vile.
I firmly believe that a miscarriage was the goal of the palace and the press. The palace maybe not, but they did nothing to protect 2 1/2 members of their family, nothing. I bet William was delighted with the press behaviour during her pregnancy, he was probably walking around smiling every day.
I think William was following his wandering scepter around and watering his rose bush(es).
I can’t help thinking that some of this may be a reaction to the FT story on Andrew – especially as that really underscores the differences between York’s ‘charitable’ work (read profiteering) and the Sussex’s intent.
I wonder if they will announce a settlement and this is part of the deal? I don’t see them suddenly playing nice with Harry and especially Meghan unless they had to. But if they are willing to moderate comments now, why haven’t they done that for the past two years? I hope they don’t think this makes them look better, it actually makes them look like they have deliberately allowed Meghan to be subjected to online abuse.
I think they are doing this to protect themselves from a potential *future* lawsuit unrelated to the copyright one. Isn’t it strange that when we were just discussing on a thread about Meghan’s lawsuit regarding comment moderation that they *now* suddenly start moderating them? My tinfoil theory is that some of the people working for the tabloids do lurk here, it was strange to see some commentators viciously try to defend the tabloids on that thread.
I think it’s sad that he is ok with looking at himself in the mirror when he knows the hurt and pain he caused/causes. And he should be taken off the air. What’s even sadder is he has an audience that cheers him on.
Piss Moron is looking for work on a major network in the USA again, he could not make it the first time, taking over the Larry King Show.
Now that he is attacking trump, his chances at Faux News are slim.
Watching Piss M is uncomfortable, all you see is his small mouth foaming at the corners.
Lying Chris Ship was exposed for using a picture of a crowd in a park that someone tweeted, did not ask permission, did a story about crowds back in the parks, turns out it was a old Google picture.
I loathe Chris Ship – he’s such a gas-lighter. On camera he’s nothing but sweet about Meghan and Harry, but on social media, he really whips up a lot of hate.
And I caught him slying saying how Prince Andrew’s accuser was making a lot of money giving interviews – absolutely gross!
Ooh! I don’t know this story. Can you share the link?
Maybe he can go hang out with Emily Giffin to talk things over.
Maybe some of the backlash against that hag turned the tide on people putting up with his filth?
Before this Giffin incident; there was an old lady who went on US news and called Meghan ‘5 clicks from trailer trash’. She got a lot of backlash and both the news channel and Vanity Fair (who she said she wrote for) had to release statements.
I do think that US is much more responsive to criticism to the Meghan haters. I wonder if that in part has made him realise that if he continues to be gross that it could hurt his career.
But saying that, he was actually invited on to some US women’s show, just to slag Meghan off a few months ago.
@Ruby I do think the US is going to respond very differently to a lot of the criticism against Meghan. And its not that we’re such a superior country, I just think we don’t care about a lot of the things she got criticized for, Emily Giffin and her ilk aside. Like when the papers/royal reporters melted down over her bare shoulders at Trooping the Colour, or her excitement at the success of her issue of Vogue, or her dark nail polish, or that she didnt wear a heat when the queen did – heck just the fact that she is American is obviously not going to be used against here in her home country.
I mean obviously SOME people are going to care, but I don’t think that kind of thing is going to gain steam here the way it did in the UK press.
Did any UK news outlet cover the Emily Giffin thing?
@Ginger: I activley avoid the BM, but from news that pops up on my internet, there was no mention.
I never understood how he thought that any woman with a brain would be friends with him when she becomes close to someone from the BRF. He knows exactly how especially Harry hates the British Media. He knew it more then Meghan. So how was it possible for him to be hurt by her ghosting him? They met once and wrote a few words. That’s not your best friend. He should have thought, what a wise woman, she obviously means it serious with Harry and what a lucky guy he is with a woman like her. Imagine she would be still in contact with him, would the Queen be amused? Or Harry? He should have known that Harry was the one who said, forget him hes not good for you or our company. Harry knows things about Pierce, Meghan probably didn’t. So if he wants to rant, rant about Harry. But nooooo the woman is guilty. He is an idiot.
Men typically only respond this way if they are both: 1.) romantically attracted to the woman and 2.) entitled. Women across the globe know that little moment of fear and discomfort when telling a man, “no.” That’s the moment they get angry. That’s when the bad ones get dangerous and vicious and mean. Their translation of the exchanges is, “But I bought you a drink. I paid attention to you. I complimented you and behaved well. You telling me ‘no’ makes you ungrateful and unkind and a bitch.”
It’s transactional to them. They think, “to get a woman, I buy them something, say nice things, and work really hard to be a gentleman.” That’s the payment. After they’ve made that payment, they feel they are OWED our attention, affection, or whatever they’re after from us. When we don’t respond the way they want us to, they lose their bloody minds.
I’ve seen it over and over and over again with lots of friends and family (and myself on two occasions). MOST men never act like this, but there are plenty who do, and it’s a distinct pattern betraying a particular mindset.
No one will ever convince me this is about anything other than…he met her, had a crush on her, and she had dinner with him. He translated that as “she’s gonna be my lady now,” and when it became clear that, no, she was never going to be his lady, he turned into the mean, entitled man we all know and hope never to meet.
His behavior is SO tell-tale that I cannot see it as anything else.
@Marigold: SO MUCH THIS.
Yeah, it’s the lawsuit. This is why she filed, because there was zero sense of professional ethics from the media. They know they’re going to lose on the material, and this is a weak attempt at PR. The fact that this man is the most prominent “journalist” in the country speaks absolute volumes.
His whole family has a weird obsession with Meghan, his wife has done some hit pieces and his son was being an ass on Twitter too.
He’s an opportunist& this is solely about his image. He does things for attention and is trying to remodel himself as the coronavirus champion of the people who is taking governments to task. Seeing as a lot of real journalists have completely failed in recent times& don’t challenge government lines he wants to stand out as the ‘sole voice’, but his unhinged abuse of Meghan is probably not a good look for the left leaning people he’s suddenly trying to appeal to (maybe momentarily hence being interviewed in the Independent) now that’s he’s pissed of Boris Johnson and Trump fans with his critique of them. It annoys me that the bare minimum will cause people to embrace him& forget his horrible past.
I wonder how much he’s going to be exposed in Meghan, Harry and James Hewitt’s cases& others. His lies about contents of Meghan’s texts with her father have been exposed in court docs already. Hewitt alleges Morgan’s collusion in theft of Diana’s love letters from his house.
Yes, I think this is part of him rebranding as he can see the tide is changing and he’s nothing more than an opportunist.
I’m not surprised by his wife. Imagine being married to an absolute troll who vocally rants about being ignored by another beautiful woman. When het got some award from a trashy womens mag for being their ‘secret crush’ he literally said in a speech how Meghan must be regretting choosing Harry over him now he has this award – absolute vomit inducing.
It’s like the Royalists and tabloids are jilted by Harry choosing Meghan over them and Piers is jilted by Meghan choosing Harry over him!
So… NHS finally gave foaming at the mouth Piers Morgan a rabies shot. Good for him.
I think this is all about politics. Morgan is a centre left guy and kind of abandoned Labour when Ed Miliband got in (too left wing for his tastes). Throughout the Miliband and Corbyn eras he kind of gave up on genuine political thought and just said whatever trash would get him the most attention and most money.
Now Corbyn is gone and Sir Kier Starmer is Labour leader. He strikes me as being much more Morgan’s type of preferred Labour leader (Tony Blair without the war mongering). The only problem he can’t just come back to the British Centre left because we’ve heard every Brexit, racist thing he’s said over the past few years.
In my opinion this is part of his rebranding attempt to get back on the centre left wagon.
This is a very interesting take – I don’t know much about his politics or history. It does certainly feel like that he’s trying to rebrand himself as a ‘serious’ reporter. He has been such an absolute caricature; I hope he’s never taken seriously again (by the left).
I smell a rat, too. I find it hard to believe he suddenly had a warm change of heart. I think there is some other motive for this.
This makes me wonder if sone sh!t is about to come out. About him, about the BRF, about the Sussexes. Something that’s going to make the Sussexes smell like roses, and he knows he needs to walk it all back.
This is what I’m thinking too! He’s realizing that he’s been on the wrong side of the fence and is desperately trying to claw his way back over before he gets burned.
Maybe – he is so pompous that something serious must be going on for him to change his tune. An old article came up that he wrote in the 90s complaining about gay characters being shown on a TV soap; really disgusting things. Well recently, the article resurfaced and he apologised, but he was a grown when he wrote it. I got the feeling he only apologised because he knows it’s not ‘acceptable’ to be that blatantly homophobic now.
Before the pandemic, he made it a running topic to discuss the ‘dangers’ of choosing a non-binary gender and was whipping up a lot of hate and ignorance, and for someone with his platform, that’s dangerous; he knows who to punch down on.
I agree, like what would make him suddenly change direction this fast? Smells funny. Dan Wootton has also been wigging out about the book Omid is putting out. I think, perhaps, they have gotten wind that a lot of stories they promoted will get a different kind of treatment in that book and the public opinion will turn.
Honestly, that’s exactly what I’m hoping happens. The lawsuit against the Cambridges other comments have mentioned is very interesting as well.
@hoopjumper: lawsuit against the Cambridges?
Dan Wootton is another one who is deranged about the Sussexes. Its disturbing to read some of his tweets.
@Ruby_Woo There has been speculation that the Cambridges’ foundation is being sued for financial mismanagement, but there is some sort of press embargo. I am hazy on the details, but it might have had to do with funds from the Hubb cookbook. A few commenters mentioned it on the thread from a few days ago about Andrew’s financial malfeasance. Just a possibility; there are many others!
Reporters have made oblique references to legal reasons for not talking about something that if the public knew would make them understand why Harry and Meghan left and they would be justified. One of them even said it on Good Morning Britain. There is a video clip out there on it.
People are speculating that it might relate to moving funds from the successful Hub cookbook to the Cambridge projects, but no one actually knows.
Probably. He’s nasty to the core, and people like that rarely make a change that isn’t in the form of self preservation.
I think something could be about to come out and it’s something that would shock everyone. Sussex squad have managed to piece together quite a lot of what’s been going on. We know all about the smear campaign, Williams affair etc… as do Cambridge supporters although they love to deny it. So it must be something completely hidden that would shock everyone, something that would shut up Cambridge stans cos they wouldn’t be able to shout their support. People have mentioned the funds for their foundation, but I think it’s much MUCH worse than that. If it were regarding their funds they would just throw a few member of staff under the bus, and claim ignorance.
Not just about the lawsuit but I think Piers is desperate to go to US television and establish himself there (again). So he’s trying to make nice but it’s too little, too late.
The US will never take him back…not after the way he treated Meghan. She is “ours,” and we didn’t like him the first time because he never learned how to criticize our country without sounding like a giant xenophobe. We get it. He hates us. All of us. Everything about us. Okay, dude. Get out, then.
An American woman–a delightful, beautiful, utterly and totally charming philanthropic American woman–marries into the royal family, and Mr. “I’m an arrogant British man, and I hate every American person, quality, policy, and place” piped up to destroy her.
Yeah, that guy’s never getting on US television again. Not ever.
I’m sure all the things he has been accusing others for
are merely a reflection of his own disgusting personality.
Piss who?
His whole schtick about her being inauthentic because she stopped talking to him once she started dating Harry is so ridiculous. Yes, maybe she was a bit thirsty in reaching out before hand, but I would think that goes for 99.9999% of actors trying to really reach A list. It’s not a character flaw. Once she started dating Harry, it made total sense for her to tighten her circle, and a tabloid journalist is one of the first ones that would logically be excluded!
She was the only thirsty actress out there.
Piers was texting all the people in Suits, he is in media, they wanted publicity for their show.
Exactly. Like I said, I think almost all actors are thirsty. It’s not a slam.
Plus when Piers Morgan was on Celebrity Apprentice, he was so thirsty for Donald Trump’s approval.
I think he exaggerated his interaction with Meghan. When he tweeted about being glad to meet her, he said it was a shame they didn’t go to his pub& sounded like there was someone else with them. As details emerged of her first date with Harry eg wearing a blue dress he then added that to his story.
Then when he wrote a Fail article he said they met and had drinks at his pub I think after she watched Serena. Has anyone from the pub backed up his story? Hmm
Interesting points on his politics. Keir Starmer definitely seems like more press friendly Labour leader which is funny as phone hacking investigations happened when he was a prosecutor. But he’s had some donations from a Mail exec& had articles in right wing broadsheets. So Piers may be moving centre left again but after passionate support for Trump, engaging with likes of Ben Shapiro, Katie Hopkins, retweeting white supremacists Etc it’s sickening that he would be so easily embraced.
yeah, I saw the tweets, and she complimented him and had a rather business-like setup for a meal together. There was NOTHING in what she wrote that we were shown that indicated flirting or anything like an attempt at friendship. It was American manners. We are open and friendly, and I cannot believe in a time when we’re finally getting the definition of consent for sex out there in the general public…we have to defend a female being professionally polite within the boundaries of her culture.
Being enthusiastic and friendly does not equal “thirsty.” She was doing her freaking job.
(I get that several of you already said this…I’m just mad about the people who accuse her of throwing herself at him because she sent him a friggin’ tweet)
Piers takes pictures of every celebrity he meets. If he was such a big fan of Suits (like he claims) why no picture of him with Meghan? I always thought that was weird.
Promotion is literally part of the job for actors. As has been mentioned here many times. She wasn’t extra about it. She wasn’t “thirsty.” She was a professional showing up and doing her job.
If she actually was thirsty she’d have gone about it differently.
This line of attack that Meghan somehow brought on the abuse by piers Morgan’s because she allegedly meet him for drinks . Has been her haters line for years now that somehow her meeting piers Morgan for drinks to discuss suits prove that she is a attention seeker . Meghan and one of her another co stars from suits were supposed to meet him but some things happen where the meeting didn’t happen . And piers has been establishing this tale of him meet meghan at a pub for years claiming that they had drinks she receives a text from Harry that night piers being the gentleman that he is hail a cab for her to go meet her prince no one ever questioning him about this so called event that no one else witness .
A few thoughts on this:
1) Piers MOrgan is one of the coldest opportunists you will ever meet. Absolutely everything he does is based around his own self interest. I don’t know if he’s sexist, racist or even a misogynist, because he shifts and changes based on what suits him *at the time*.
2) Piers has been making a play on returning to America for some time now. So his stupid support of Trump (whom he knew was a moron), his apparent misogyny, his shooting down of everything progressive (after being a liberal for many years), to me, was a play towards winning back the American right that he pissed off with his anti-guns agenda. I also think a lot of his extreme aggression towards Meghan was a play towards winning them over.
3) I believe he was hoping to get some sort of gig on Fox News, but that for whatever reason, was shut down. Recently. So now, we see a rush back to the left again. Now suddenly attacking Conservative politicians (who he purportedly voted for), his attacks on Trump (after defending years of his evil bullshit) etc.
4) I wonder if somehow, it’s been made known to him that his attacks on Meghan and Harry will prove a genuine stumbling block to his ambitions…..for instance, would a close relationship with two Hollywood giants Oprah and Tyler Perry (if the rumours are true) be useful in blocking any opportunities he might be exploring in TV/Hollywood? Nothing short of that would have persuaded this snake to rethink his appalling behaviour.
5) That, or he got called off his attack duties from above. With the Queen in semi retirement, Kate + William sinking deeper and deeper into irrelevance (is anybody interested in any of the causes they’re championing?), Andrew with one leg in prison, his daughters are laughing stocks, the Wessexes virtually anonymous in the U.K. and nonentities internationally…..
Perhaps the royal family are rethinking their positioning of the Sussexes and it’s now time to genuinely pull all the stops on trying to renegotiate their return. Or at least a return of sorts.
Those are really interesting points – for all that scheming he hasn’t gotten so little.
Am surprised that he didn’t manage to get a foot in the US door, since a lot of MAGA’s loathe Meghan. But I also guess Meghan being friends and liked by a lot of prominent US media people is also a blocker.
The US and UK media are very different in some ways. US has a more outspoken conservative channels, but people are quick to call out appalling behaviour and the networks will respond. Whereas in the UK, the MSM will bend over backwards to deny racism and racist/ sexist dog whistles are lot more tolerated.
The bit about the Royals is interesting too. I do not for one moment think that Piers would go off as he did, if he didn’t get some sort of green light by the Palace. I dunno who ‘above’ is… whether it’s his own agent giving feedback from the US, his lawyers or the royal family themselves realising it went too far (but I don’t know if they care that much to be honest).
I don’t think he will ever be on Fox except as a guest – he is anti gun. That’s a hard no for Fox so maybe he is trying to go back to CNN.
Interesting. I also don’t see him on Fox, their crazy is not intellectual enough for his pompous butt. I think he fancies himself one and would feel this level of trolling was beneath even him.
I agree he is calculating and he must know that H&M have always favored the US media. And they’re not going to forget the vitriol he spewed so whatever network wants a chance at maybe even an interview with either of them in the future, probably can’t hire him.
LOL, Tyler Perry rumours. LOLOL.
I thought they were staying at Oprah’s place! You know all the black folks are friends and hang out.
It’s like when you travel out of your home country and meet people who know one other person from that country and they act like you should totally know them despite them living hundreds of miles away from your home.
I’m sure Meghan is introducing Harry and Archie to literally every black entertainer who has ever lived. You know that has to be happening right now!
I can’t keep up with the fanfic without a program.
The British Media said Harry and Meghan are irrelevant.
They need the BM to promote their causes, in the pass few months they realized, that the Sussexes do not need the BM, they got world wide attention.
RR are not going to write or talk about them anymore, since they are bored out of their skulls with the other royals, they decided that H&M are still Royal and had to write or talk about them.
I don’t believe him. As said by multiple posters, he operates in self interest only. He puts on whatever hat suits him. I wanna know why he feels this hat is suitable right now. I don’t know if it has anything to do with the palace, because the rest of the BM seem to still be going after them like always and with new Andrew dirt, the palace is not gonna tell the tabs to cool it on the Sussexes. I think whatever reason it is, it’s a personal one.
Also, he kissed up to Trump so much when he was on the Celebrity Apprentice. So…. he might want to not throw stones about thirst.
Crocodile tears.
The only reason I could see him not letting loose on Meghan again (or doing it much less) is because he is somehow implicated in this lawsuit. Or his higher ups told him to tone it down and not add fuel to the fire or his a$$ would be on the line because of the lawsuit. I think he knows the chances of him getting a job elsewhere are probably pretty slim (I’m sure he’d find something eventually, like a judge on one those talent shows he’s done that in the past) and in this economy of a pandemic, you hold on to what you can.
First, PM’s U-turn: a common practice with a price tag:
U-turns are not uncommon for Piss Morgan. Let’s stick with this case to explain how …
In the tweets and interviews he gave boasting about ‘how he become friends with Meghan’, it was all about “the amazing meghan Markle,” blah blah blah. And when the Markle family attacked Meghan with paid media appearances, he dragged the crazy sister- who was on every media to bash Meghan – in a first live paid interview he himself did with her on his GMB show. And he endlessly raved about Thomas Markle with regard to the staged photos published in his paper The Daily Fail, who was running endless Markles’ stories in the days leading up the wedding.
However, shortly after the wedding he changed his tone. He started attacking Meghan, became “friends” with the sister and father to give paid scripted interviews: theme: stain Meghan’s character as much as possible.
So, that’s called being hypocritical and having an agenda. Pier’s business is to get paid to be mean, to run campaigns against individuals, just for two reasons: 1) to fill his pockets, to boast his ego, ratings and followers. 2). To create controversy; e.g., to trigger the anger of his right-wing audience to make denigrating and hateful comments/remarks.
And… after a while – when the job is done, or when he has scored a new paid ‘attack someone, be mean’ gig, he moves on to the next ‘victim’. That is the PM scripted playbook.
Second, PM will never, out of the blue, backtrack from attacking his prey (sorry guys, this was not an apology, not even a light one. If he ever whole-hearted apologizes – which I doubt – he’ll have to do that directly and personally to Meghan (and Harry), … unless… well, the only reason I can come up for him giving the S-Times interview is because he was forced to make some sort of apology. Let me guess twice what the reasoning for that ‘apology’ might be:
1.) His employer(s) has/have forced him to stop attacking Meghan. There could be two reasons for this: someone from the RF has asked his employer(s) (the royals are friends with all the British media bosses) to do so (stop now, job done, damage done, its affecting us now), or the same employer(s) is/ are about to fire him.
2). H&M Lawsuits:
First: Meghan has an ongoing lawsuit against the paper for which he writes his hit pieces. His name has already been mentioned in the court documents. Second: Meghan (and maybe Harry too) may have filed a new (defamation) lawsuit directly against him. The option was given by Judge Welby in the pre-trial. Maybe her lawyers were ‘fishing’ for this opportunity to file a lawsuit against him. Finally, the long-standing lawsuit about the phone-hacking scandal is slowly approaching the end; he was editor of The Mirror of at the time, the tabloid paper Harry is suing for hacking his phone; So, PM’s name is well lubricated in H&M’s court cases.
To wrap it up: PM will most likely have to appear in court,… sometime soon.
Excellent breakdown.
His morning show producers definitely encouraged him to attack Meghan, but I am convinced that he would not have been so bold unless he got the greenlight from the Palace somehow. Why would they backtrack now? Do the Palace regret the Sussexes leaving? Even if they do, I don’t think him backtracking is going to help change their minds.
The lawsuits are more interesting. I am guessing that when Meghan’s lawsuit goes to court, there may be evidence that Thomas was fed a script. But the Daily Mail and Good Morning Britain (Piers’ show) are separate entities and Meghan is just suing the DM. Unless it shows that Thomas was manipulated on the whole – I dunno.
If Harry’s suit against the Mirror group goes to court – Piers will 100% be involved as he was Editor of the paper at the time. Apparently, he had managed to bully Diana into sitting down and talking to him to get access along with other horrible stuff – phone hacking, stolen documents etc.
I do remember the current editor of the Mirror (who finds any excuse to slag off the Sussexes) said that if their suits go to court a lot of unknown things will come out about how the RF have behaved towards the Sussexes. It sounded like an indirect threat – you NEED to squash this now. He was talking on Piers’ show and Piers shut him up down like a lead balloon. Somethings gone on with both the Palace and the Press and these law suits will hopefully shine a light.
Now that the media knows that they can attack a Duchess of the British Royal Family with no one batting an eye, how long do the others think they’ll be safe? All of these smears leading up to and including the chimp photo were condoned by the palaces
ITV have been also been bought off by KP just like the tabloids. It’s not just piers on GMB that attacked Meghan but in This Morning Eamon Holmes called her uppity and, Loose Women are always trash talking her too. It’s funny how kate recently gave an interview to This Morning. Also Chris Ship from ITV news is always trashing Meghan on twitter.
February: That’s a really good point. I was surprised by Kate’s interview too. Considering that the Palace threatened to cut ABC having any access to Kate and William if they reported on Prince Andrew.
This is very interesting. The only reason he’d temper his remarks is because: something is about to go down, either the story about the royals that’s been suppressed or about the lawsuit. I don’t think it’s the lawsuit since isn’t the next hearing a long way off?
I really, really hope the sh*t is about to hit the fan and the chickens are coming home to roost. People in the media have been hinting about this for a while now.
I really think it will but after the Queen dies.
I don’t think he’s walking his shitty behavior back because he has some crisis of conscience. He’s doing it because he has realized he overplayed his hand. He never imagined she’s leave the firm and take Harry with him, back to Hollywood where they could build their own life funded by the fruits of their own work.
Now that they’re not given taxpayer dollars, he’s not entitled to the information that he was before, and it serves him right.
Whatever. He’s a garbage human being and always has been. I dont trust a sibgle thing he says and I dont think he cares at all whether he “went too far”. He clearly has an obsession with Meghan and it’s also clear that her lawsuit is the reason for his sudden change of heart. Not that he actually has one
The otber reason something is coming because no Markle has been trotted to cry they didn’t Zoom Archie on his birthday. Something has been unearthed on Bad Dad that looks like a career ender for Piss and other RRs that cosigned on these Markle vampires.
Maybe Thomas got spooked by the law suit and has agreed to provide evidence that the RRs/Piers was feeding him lines? So Piers is trying to pre-empt it and if he is accused, he’ll say he was the one who was the one manipulated by Thomas and the mail reason he was angry at Meghan was because Thomas had convinced him that Meghan had ghosted her family?
He and Emily Giffin are two sides of the same unhinged coin.
Piss Morgan was the start of the bullying campaign again them. He is responsible for the hate created,
Non stop hatred and the idiots that believe all follow and replicate his hate.
For years and years you abused someone you only had 1 drink with. I’m curious just how many articles he wrote about them, my guess over 100plus (per week) 🤣
A leopard cant change its spots. Similarly this bully is only using a new tactic to attract liberal viewers/readers and perhaps even set motion for a return into American networks. Clue is in his many cnn interviews lately.
I doubt this was due to Meghan’s lawsuit but he’ll be center stage on Harry’s hacking case and will probably have to give testimony. I cant wait to see him humiliated & exposed worldwide
As far as I’m concerned – Piers is just another shameless coward (hi Emily) who try to walk back the ugliness of their words.
Piers Morgan is a horrible human being who has a creepy obsession with Meghan he wanted more for her than just to meet with her . All of his attacks were way too personally for someone in the entertainment industry who he never meet before he tried to suck up to Meghan and harry before the engagement while appearing in the early special about them he did a completely 180 when he wasn’t invited to their wedding that’s when he becoming unhinged . Truly believe that some people in the Cambridge’s camp and the other palace aids gave piers Morgan the green light to attack Meghan he went with it vengeance . He not apologize because he sorry afraid.
The man is a narcissistic sociopath. If he’s saying this now it’s for one of two reasons.: He’s got feedback that this has not been a good look for his career or he’s trying to get ahead of some really nasty shit that is going to come out soon enough, probably in the court case. He has no moral regrets, only ones of self interest.
He is trash. The end.
If you look in the dictionary there should be a picture of PIERS MORGANS FACE NEXT TO DOUCHE BAG
Piers was accused of printing faked photos of soldiers abusing insurgents in Iraq (and we all know Harry’s military history) and playing an active part in the phone hacking scandal. Even if Meghan liked him enough to put him on the guest list (which is doubtful), there’s absolutely no way Harry would have had him there.
And hating Meghan gets clicks so…
What a horrible human..
This is like, a bare minimum apology at best. He’s not really admitting anything. He’s just sorry that people are holding him accountable and that he might be on the line for the stuff he’s said and the way he’s treated people.
“… leading many to suggest that Morgan’s vendetta was due to Markle ending her contact with him, after her relationship with Prince Harry was made public.”
What contract did she ended?
I keep saying-the guest list for Meghan and Harry’s wedding as far as the media is concerned was mostly decided by Harry-I bet all the money in the world -Harry had say of what media he wanted at his wedding-It was reported that Meghan wanted to invite some lady friend who worked in the media-Harry said he did not want that person there-Whether he explained his reasons to Meghan-I don’t know-I have read that Piers Morgan harassed Diana so much that she gave him an interview-Does anyone think Harry was going to allow this man at his wedding after the things he has written about his mom-Cry me a river-not. When it came to the media at the wedding most decision were made by Harry not Meghan. Harry did not want his wife befriending Piers and he cut Piers off at the knees-Harry knows more about Piers than Meghan so decision not to have anything to do with him was made by the Duke of Sussex-my word you can count it.