This story is so stupid, but I just wanted to talk about it because A) it’s getting picked up by the British tabloids and B) because I want to dunk on Work-Shy Prince William. Obviously, this is Us Weekly’s current cover. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are “living in fear,” you see, because tabloid outlets like Us Weekly, the Daily Mail and the Sun keep hiring drones to take photos of Tyler Perry’s mansion, where the Sussexes are currently staying (much to the chagrin of salty white peeps). But how is poor, weak, henpecked Harry handling everything? Harry, it seems, calls his brother William constantly. And William, in turn, tells Harry to “return to London.”
Prince Harry has been able to lean on brother Prince William as he struggles to adjust to his new life in Los Angeles, a source exclusively reveals in the new issue of Us Weekly.
“Moving to a completely different country is never easy for anyone, including Harry. And he wasn’t expecting to be faced with so many obstacles,” says the insider. As he settles into his life in the U.S., including the security challenges celebrities face in L.A., Harry has been talking to his big brother. They are back on speaking terms after a rift earlier this year.
“William’s advised Harry to return to London or move elsewhere, somewhere safer,” the insider says. “He’s concerned about his brother’s well-being and safety.”
Harry, 35, has also been in contact with grandmother Queen Elizabeth II during this transitional period. The 94-year-old monarch has “been reaching out to Harry to see if he’s OK and has offered to help out if needed.”
Harry had “unrealistic expectations” of what life in L.A. would be like and “saw L.A. through rose-colored glasses,” the insider says. The British army veteran and wife Meghan Markle have considered moving elsewhere, but the insider said that “they’re staying put in California for now.”
When my dad moved from India and came to the United States on a work visa for the first time, he arrived stateside in the summer of 1968. America was on fire that summer, there were people rioting and protesting in the streets and my dad just thought it was normal. He thought that was America. That’s sort of the vibe for Harry – no one could have predicted that upon his arrival to LA, he’d have to go in lockdown for months because of a pandemic, and then DURING the pandemic, there would be a local, national and global movement built around social justice and anti-police brutality. I wonder if Harry has turned to Meghan and asked “is that what LA is always like??” But yeah, I bet he’s fine. And I seriously doubt he’s asking for William’s advice about anything. I doubt they’re even speaking. The only thing I believe is that William desperately wants Harry to move back to England. William would love nothing more than to hide behind that soap opera of “Harry abandons wife and child to return to England, commits to being brother’s doormat for next fifty years.”
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My parents came to this country in 1969 and they had heard about the turmoil as well. I don’t believe for a second that Harry is calling his brother. Not for one second.
Bollocks! Harry has lived in war torn Afghanistan, he went to war on 2 missions. William never went to war. Harry is fine. William just can’t get his daily leaks from the Sussexes, to feed the media, to make him and his wife look good. The Scapegoats left town! He is probably behind the drones flying over T Perry’s house.
Exactly this. And also, the pandemic is worldwide and so are the protests. He would never call William.
Us is a Cambridge magazine. It’s all about them and PR spin.
Us Weekly and In Touch Weekly are the two biggest producers of fan-fiction stocked on supermarket shelves and distributed for mass consumption by hair & nail salons throughout the USA.
Why would Harry call Kevin Kensington for advice when he could call Oprah or Tyler?
Wasn’t Harry previously stationed on a military base outside San Diego? It’s not even his first time living in the U.S. and specifically Southern California. My guess he had a few weekend excursions into San Diego (that part I know because it was well reported) and LA and developed a taste for the region.
You are correct. He spent two months in 2011 receiving Apache helicopter training in El Centro, CA (100 east of San Diego) and also in Arizona. He visited San Diego on the weekends, and the Daily Mail paid at least one woman to claim Harry “rescued” her after she fell into a swimming pool at a rooftop bar. When I attempted to contact her for my news outlet, she threatened to sue me.
SerenityByJan – Thank you for the dish!!
Oh please, Meghan and Harry are nowhere near the action, they’re fine.
This is just a chance to infantalize Harry again and blame Meghan for taking him away from England. They can’t dump on her after her latest, thoughtful speech, so they are dumping on her by extension by making Los Angeles sound dangerous.
They are in a community designed for privacy. The drones belong to the DM. If they don’t have privacy, it’s because the Daily Mail is reaching across the globe to sell tabloids and selling pics to US Magazine.
The DM needs the clickbait and they like the critics of Harry and Meghan to post nasty things.
Of course they are. I’m sure they are living a very comfortable life.
Oh man that picture of the four of them onstage is so bittersweet. I remember how excited we all felt about the “fab four” and their combined star power, before Waity and Wills got their panties in a bunch about how much we all loved the Sussexes. What could have been!
I know. I’m still sad that Harry and Meghan are not working royals anymore. I liked them.
I don’t care about Willie and Katie. I guess that’s not accurate, though as I actively dislike W&K, which is a kind of “caring.”
And ironically, had K and W supported H and M, we would have liked them so much for it. They really had a chance to be well liked and they squandered it through petty jealousy. I wonder if they have any awareness of this.
Doubt it.
I think this event was the beginning of it. This was the first time we saw that Meghan was so much more than Kate, who has no opinions or thoughts other than memorized talking points. Thus began the jealousy and fear that culminated in the events of January of this year.
I think Richard Kay even said as much in one of his articles “defending” Kate from the Tatler article – that this was the moment when it was clear how eloquent Meghan was, etc. (like we said at the time, for an article defending Kate, it sure made her sound insecure and inept….)
Lol. We all know Harry and William arent even talking to each other anymore. Let alone Harry asking Dullard for advice on ANYTHING.
I disagree – I fully believe Harry called William to EXCORIATE him about leaking their location, blaming Meghan for the Tatler piece, call him out about Christian Jones, and who knows what else.
Aside from that, this piece says nothing new, just covers cain’s usual talking points: that he’s “concerned for their safety” and “worried about Harry” and that they may move, maybe? Of course they’re going to move, they’re staying in someone else’s house. Typical bollocks, typical distraction, and I’m sure Harry appreciates Cain throwing him under the bus once again for his own perceived PR gains.
This. Because Harry is low contact on the way to no contact with the way the press will.not.let.this.drop and the way the Cambridges keep feeding it.
This article is such a bait and switch. It’s not about William being worried about Harry’s safety (note he doesn’t include Meghan & Archie?) – the REAL thing eating at William is not the Sussex’s safety, but that they’re in LA and getting ALL THE ATTENTION that Will & Kate think is theirs by right of birth/marriage etc.
About the only thing I believe about this article is William wanting the Sussexes to leave LA. He wants them out of the spotlight. Remember when he wanted them to go live in Africa? That’s probably where Workshy still wants to airdrop them.
This is just another rancid KP swipe at the Sussexes b/c “how dare” they shine like the crazy humanitarian diamonds they are. It’s pulling out alll the old tired tropes – “Harry unstable”, “William the dutiful and protective older brother” – it’s the same old horse plop as before. Anyone with the brains the gods gave a pile of rocks sees through it immediately. This was probably KP’s answer to “how do we take the heat off Kate’s apocalyptic embiggening disaster over at the Tatler?” Sadly Workshy Wanderdick’s PR team is a bunch of one-trick ponies. Maybe they should get that seen to over at Sandringham…
I can only imagine he wasn’t expecting LA to be like it currently is, and who could blame him for that. He’s grown up with a good deal of insulation because of who his family. I also suspect that he had similar views of what California is like to someone like me who grew up in Canada on the Atlantic coast – you kind of just grow up thinking that it’s all surfers and movie stars and has a very chill vibe and the weather is beautiful. You don’t see all the fires, the crime, and everything else that’s less than ‘shiny and pretty’ the way it’s portrayed in movies and television.
So throw in a global pandemic, huge protests and riots, and I’m sure that WOULD be a big adjustment.
That said – I think he’s probably doing fine. I’m sure he’s probably a little worried for their safety, but that’s going to be something he’d face no matter where he moved because it’s somewhere he hadn’t lived before. I don’t think he’s calling Will from under his sheets in the middle of the night whispering about how scared he is lol.
The one thing I do hope Harry is feeling is awe towards how well Meghan handled moving to the UK. I think all things considered she adapted incredibly quickly to his lifestyle, and I hope he’s aware of what a huge sacrifice that was for her. Chances are, he does recognize that, though.
I mean, no one anticipated a global pandemic + widespread protests? And anything thinking person knows that this too will pass (hopefully we come out the other side as an improved society).
Kinda like the Spanish Inquisition.
So true – *Nobody* expects the Spanish Inquisition.
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a bit off topic, but I still dont understand why Harry and Meghan live in LA? how that happened after the “we are moving to Canada” thing?
Canada didnt want them? they didnt want Canada?
I mean, how LA happened?
her mother lives in la.
Canada was better from a PR standpoint & a British point of view. LA kind of reinforces the worst of what people want to think of Meghan & her motivations.
Neither one are Canadian citizens and they were closing the borders due to the pandemic so they went to LA and her mother lives there. It was either America or the UK. They picked America.
They never said they were moving to Canada. They were there for their six week break until WikiLeaks sold their location to Wootton. As others wrote, they couldn’t stay there beyond six months as they are not Canadian citizens.
Who are these people kidding? Harry served on the frontlines in Afghanistan and they think social justice protests will scare him out of LA?
This!
London \ Britain is a major target for protests and terrorists attacks for years. Why should Harry be scared of was going on in the USA. ……
By the way isn’t there protest going in London right now…BLM.
IKR? Return to peaceful London where there is no racial strife or protests.
Right? And last I checked, London was having protests too (they seem to be getting worse while the ones here in the US are more peaceful).
I don’t believe for a second Harry called William. I doubt they’ve spoken much at all, and I think H&M are doing just fine in Los Angeles.
Yeah, I don’t quite get why they are making it out like he is some delicate flower and the U.S. is a big bad monster ready to eat him alive. This is the guy who did military training in California. He is also the same guy who got caught out playing nude poker or whatever in a Las Vegas hotel room. And was deployed to an actual warzone. He has likely seen some stuff. He’s protected and highly privileged, but seems to have made efforts during his life to try and step out of the insulation when possible. Outside of the usual adjustments that have to happen when moving to a different country, what is the story here?
Harry is the only one in the RF that could live outside of it. No one else could adjust because they have lived inside the bubble. Harry is the only one that made a point to lived outside of it.
Harry will live inside a bubble of privilege to some extent wherever he goes because of how people see & react to him.
US Weekly seems to be competing with the Fail for worst fan fiction.
@ Mac : US Weekly is a cheesy tabloid. I’m not expecting anything different from them. They are like the Daily Mail except the DM comes out every day (I think).
Yeah, it stands for “Untrue Stories Weekly”
@ Some Chick, that’s fabulous!! I am going to use that, if you don’t mind. Yes, they are shiny print of the National Enquirer. It would be hell freezing over before H called W for help and crying on his shoulder. Though I am certain that he stays in touch with his grandmother as they probably zoom each other quite often, and possibly his grandfather as well, though he is another pile of racist crap. I don’t see H & M cutting ties with TQ or Charles, but Wil no. And I am certain that H is perfectly fine in CA. Harry probably loves the weather and the wildlife/parks.
Where the heck did the $10M number in security for Archie alone even come from?
I know, that’s bananas. That’s $27K a DAY. Not a chance.
I eagerly await the day that Parliament is no longer comprised of the BRF’s Eton buddies. When that day comes (hopefully sooner rather than later), the BRF will have one hell of a time convincing those in power of their necessity. One hell of a time indeed.
California Drone Laws
The main thrust of the California drone laws revolve around privacy issues. If you knowingly enter the airspace over private property without permission with the intention of taking photos or video, you are guilty of invading someone’s privacy.
As to Harry, he and Meghan have moved on. I live in a community in CA where many of us prefer to stay safe and work from home.
Transition from one country to another is stressful, as well as one state to another. We look forward to the move and grieve at the same time. We were close to listing our home and moving to Arizona until the pandemic.
I keep seeing stories like this and even headlines like “their LA plans are in tatters.” Ugh. Another thing that people always forget is that Harry said so many times in the past how unhappy he was in the RF. These people are so jealous and petty.
It’s especially stupid because ALL of our plans are in tatters. Normally by now I’m traveling at least twice a month to attend or speak at conferences, and that goes on through November. I’m doing none of that this year. Welcome to 2020. Everyone has had to adjust. We put on our grown-up pants and adjust.
I’m sure Harry knows he’s experiencing the same thing as the rest of the world. And I have no doubt he couldn’t care less what Prince Dulldome wants him to do. The more crap they fling at him and his family, the more they drive him away.
this so much! i had two trips i canceled and like everyone across the world, this year has been tough. like they would have been able to do anything different back in the UK even. the only ones who’s plan are in tatters is W & K
I imagine it is a culture shock. But also yes – how much of a culture shock was it for Meghan to move to England and settle in such alien circumstances, and add to that becoming pregnant, having to deal with that and the hostility alone so soon after being married and moving to the UK full time. I would have thought that It would have been difficult enough if they settled in London, but to move to godforsaken Windsor, it must have been incredibly hard for Meghan.
Life is strange for everyone at the moment, so I do sympathise with anyone adding relocation to another country too. I just hope that Harry gave Meghan heaps of support when she was first in England, and I’m sure she’s providing him with support too.
Just see the pictures they choose for Harry and Meghan and the picture of Kate, that says all. I guess “US” will be doing the dirty work in the USA that the DM and others british tabloids do in UK
Us Weekly is the one of the sister magazines to the National Enquirer, the world tackiest tabloid. Its the Enquirer printed on nicer paper and in color.
I also find the sympathetic framing of Kate’s legal action a stark, disgusting contrast in how tabloids portrayed Meghan’s
There’s always been a creepy made-up narrative about Harry needing the support and structure of the Cambridges. But the Cambridges are a mess. William is a cheater and Carole was keeping things together. The whole thing seems very manipulative.
The Cambridges tried the same tactic with the other royals when quarantine started. They were going to be leading the family but the two bigger moments were the Queen’s speech and Charles’ address right before that.
Also, looking at that cover, why haven’t the American tabloids made a bigger deal about the Tatler story?
1. I don’t believe that Harry is calling William for help 2. I really hope there aren’t any wildfires in California’s immediate future
We’re doing our best. Unfortunately, Southern California Edison did not upgrade equipment when needed. Gov Newsom and our legislature took action. “Either upgrade or you will become a public utility.” We’re in Los Padres National Forest, small community and as soon as we have/spring summer here we become concerned and aware. Dry vegetation, low humidity, heat, careless smokers, etc. Most recent fire was 50 miles south in Castaic, 90 acres burned. Thank you for the concern.
Harry’s been to Afghanistan, I think he’s fine in California without his toxic family lmaoooooooooooo
This story is ridiculous. Harry is a grown man. He’s not some sheltered child being exposed for the first time to racism. He’s had a front row seat to it for 3 years. I’m sure he felt like marching himself.
We know he isn’t talking to William. The House of Cambridge has been behind the majority of the attacks and leaks.
I’m sure there’s been a period of adjustment. There almost always is when someone moves to a new country, even if that person is well-traveled, and then you factor in the fact that Harry is starting a new life away from the royal fold, there’s a pandemic, and the riots/protests – and yeah, I’m sure it hasn’t quite been what he expected.
I don’t think that means he’s about to run back to London and the royals, I just think it means that he is probably waiting longer than expected for the next stage to fully start.
And I don’t believe he and William have reconciled and I think this story is just being floated to make William look better.
I moved to a new state on a different coast during lockdown (military mandated, we quarantined for 14 days after moving in and are being very safe). It’s a period of adjustment and I think people reach a little too far into the “Harry’s great and having zero issues”. Moving somewhere new and not being able to start establishing a friends group, get to know your neighbors or get into a work routine sucks. With lockdown in my previous home, I could at least chat with my neighbors and friends from across the yard and I was still working in an essential business. I was in the same time zone as my friends for chats and we used to porch drop coffee and treats to each other’s houses. It was more manageable than being in a new place. I’m sure they are both struggling with it living in a brand new area during a lockdown. But that doesn’t mean they regret it or need the Royal family.
Exactly! I think people lean hard into the idea that there is no adjustment and harry is just fine. I think he is overall fine, but of course living in LA is a big adjustment from living in London.
This is true and also depends on how well you can adjust. I had a friend that moved from Ohio to Alabama and couldn’t adjust and moved back after 2 years. I had another that moved to another country and adjusted fine and loves it. Harry travels often and has lived in other countries so he may be fine.
Unless he tells us, we will never really know.
@ginger, I get that. I’ve always adjusted very well. We move every 3 years and I’ve lived in 2 other countries besides the US. I’ve seen some spouses fly home with the children after a month and some thrive and ask their spouses to try and pick new places every time orders are up. But even the most well adjusted are struggling with the lockdown in a new place. Not being able to immerse yourself in the environment and culture really does affect even the old pros.
I don’t think anyone is saying Harry’s not having any adjustment issues. People are calling out the idea that Harry is terrified of LA (United States) with all of its drones and protests and riots and Harry (just Harry) needs to return to the safe, loving embrace of the royal family in England. People are saying it’s ridiculous to think Harry is calling up *William* to cry about how bad things are in the United States. If Harry is telling anyone about his experiences in the US, it’s Elizabeth and Charles. Not William.
Fear of intrusion is why royalty tends to live in fortified castles with monolithic walls and only venture outside for professionally orchestrated events. I’m sure it will take some adjustment to acclimate to living in a new construction house in a paparazzi Mecca, if they decide that’s what they want long term.
The threat to Harry is mostly from tabloids to whom his brother keeps leaking his location. I don’t see why London would be any different. At most they will move to a different home in LA area and not tell anyone in the family.
My response as if this was a true story and not Bill’s fan fiction.
This the same Harry who lived and did two tours in Afghanistan? I’m sure Harry & Meghan will be fine in LA.
“He’s concerned about his brother’s well-being and safety.”
Lololol.
So concerned he’s been leaking details about his brother and his family’s location and security details for years?
We all know Harry hasn’t been calling Will because there haven’t been any leaks regarding the Sussex’s.
Harry isn’t an infant. He is a former military man and spends a lot of time in other countries. The RF need Harry back. He was the only one that made them interesting.
Harry is not some meek sheltered little boy who never saw anything except his small little corner of the world. Not only has he served in literal war zones, but he’s traveled around the world – and not just on luxury beach vacations like cain and unable.
Also, he’s BEEN TO LA BEFORE. He realizes that no, this is not what LA is normally like. This is just a racist dogwhistle that’s like “Wow, L.A. is a fiery hellhole but seems normal to us because that’s what we expect from THOSE communities.” Give me a break.
I said this above as well, but OF COURSE they’re going to move. They’re living in someone else’s house! I think everyone seems to forget that the reason they had to leave Canada was because all borders were closing and neither of them are Canadian citizens. Their visas would have expired during the lockdown and it’s understandable that they’d want to move closer to Doria during this turbulent time, as well as not be seen using their status to skirt immigration laws to overstay their visas in Canada. Can you imagine the uproar that would’ve caused? (Or, worse, they would’ve had to return to the UK. NO THANKS!)
So no, LA might not be their permanent home, but Harry is not rocking himself back and forth in a closet because the scary Black people are marching in the streets.
This might be thread jacking: when I saw this, I also saw titles of “Harry cutting ties with Kate.” This outta bc of them bringing the endeavor fund and invictus under archewell. Why ste they saying cutting ties with Kate instead of william? Is this part of their embiggening? To make it look like Kate runs anything?
All the sugars for William and Kate make it seem like Harry the errant one should come back to the people who “love him” WIlliam and Kate! After all the seedy things they did to him and Meghan, PR and dirty looks and so on.
I think it’s a few things.
Sexism – Kate’s gonna be the forefront of any drama with anyone involved with Will and Kate. She’s the woman and the married-in.
Shifting Tides – (also going along with sexism) the tabloids are starting to slowly criticize Kate again, so Harry splitting from them will focus on it being due to Kate’s running of the foundation. They still are largely ignoring William and the fact that he also doesn’t work.
Weirdness – the narrative the press has around Kate and Harry’s relationship has always been borderline inappropriate, particularly coming from Kate. They focused on how much she missed him way more than they focused on how much William and actually family members would. Everything about Meghan joining the family focused on Kate’s feelings. There was even an article years and years ago about a royal courtier saying they have to watch Kate’s behavior around Harry because she fawns over him and gave him too much attention even in public. This was pre-Meghan and the article was careful to say that Harry doesn’t like it and it made him uncomfortable. I don’t know how much of it is true, but the press likes to connect the two of them a lot.
There have been plenty of blog posts and articles regarding Kate’s very inappropriate behavior towards Kate and how it makes Harry uncomfortable.
Hi guys, wanted to share this tea with you all. My mom is a housekeeper in the BH area and is friends with other housekeepers including the Duke and Duchess’. I’ve been told that they are very kind and the neighborhood has welcomed them with open arms. Their housekeepers are very excited to be working for them. Lockdown has been a blessing because they get to spend plenty quality time together. I’ve been told they are very down to earth and like to do things for themselves. They are not the type to keep asking for stuff. They just want the house clean. Duchess cooks all the food and Duke is a very hands on dad.
Thank you for sharing. I’m sipping fully lol. Anymore please?
I am glad to hear. Anything good about H and M.
Thanks for sharing – glad they are as nice as they seem!
That’s sweet and not surprising at all. Thanks for that.
I’m not surprised either. I met someone who was working with them on their foundation last year and this person said that they were generous, good people who want to use their position for good
You just became “a friend of the Sussexes” who the Daily Fail will quote in their next Sussex fan fic.
Except it’s all nice stuff. “They’re really nice folks who are good employers” has no place in the Daily Fail’s script.
It’s also completely unsurprising. Thanks for the tasty tea, Pinkybear!
Lol!!! I hope not! I don’t want to get the housekeepers in trouble! I heard that many people tell the Daily Fail wonderful stories about H and M but they don’t want to publish because it’s positive stories.
I’m shocked that they don’t have a strict NDA
I’m sure all Palace staff’s employment agreements have confidentiality clauses (&requirement that confidentiality obligations shall survive after employment ends) but that doesn’t stop all the leaks to papers or even books by likes of Burrell
When people have their wants & needs fully catered to they do tend to be. . . . relatively nice, though, don’t they? Character tends to reveal itself under pressure.
“Their housekeepers are very excited to be working for them.” . . . .
Odd statement, to be frank.
As is the phrase “lock-down has been a blessing”!
lol I suspect that Harry is more than fine. Did he ever complain about missing the comforts of home while he was in the army? And it may not fit the current concern trolling agenda of the tabloids, but didn’t we used to hear how he used to like to get away from the UK when he could to spend time on the African continent? Furthermore, the very people he believed he needed to protect his family from are validating his decision nearly every single day with the trash they continue to spew or print.
If he’s so concerned for his brother’s wellbeing, I’m sure William’s next move will be to send a legal threat to the tabloids to let them know he is incandescent with rage about their continued harassment of his family. I’ll wait…
I can’t stand William.
bravo!
Last one because I can’t get anyone in trouble. My mom’s friends were very concerned when Mr. Perry said they were coming to stay because the housekeepers were used to Hollywood folks but never a prince. They told my mom the prince is a lot more down to earth than many of Mr. Perry’s Hollywood guests. The prince insists he is called Harry. And the duchess is very chatty and always asks how they are doing, how’s family, the kids etc.
Eek I love these stories! Thanks for sharing.
This makes perfect sense. Children who are raised in toxic families and not destroyed by them, crave normalcy. PH has said, “Just call me Harry.” One more example of H&M being right for each other, driven by service, concern for others and not entitled by title.
The duchess is very casual typical California girl – very friendly. I can see how if you’re from a different culture you can take that the wrong way. Like what’s wrong with you why are you so nice to me sort of way.
If you’re not from LA, here people will strike up conversations at the grocery line as if it’s a party. This is common.
@Pinkybear – That’s true! LA is probably the friendliest place in the US. I completely appreciate that in other parts of the world you don’t want to be overfamiliar and creepy, but in LA it’s just another way of treating people with dignity and respect. I’m hoping Harry is enjoying this opportunity to blend in and take it easy.
Errr Pinky,
Any saucy tea???😉😉
Is a new baby coming anytime soon?😏😏
I’ll ask my mom lol!!
Gosh I hope so!!! I’ve never seen her in person but the BLM speech she gave to her old school gave me prego vibes.
There has always been this narrative around Harry that he is a child, that he’s emotionally unstable, that he shares some of Princess Diana’s more neurotic tendencies. Some bloggers have even insinuated that he’s bi-polar.
He was always supposed to be the “loveable screw-up” uncle. A confirmed bachelor playboy type while Cain and Keen were seen as the happily married,down-to-earth future of the British Monarchy.
It’s been said that the courtiers really pushed for him to marry Cressida since they felt that they could “control” her and she would fade into the background. Much of the briefing in the press against Chelsy Davy came from the inside because no one wanted him to marry her.
What nobody realized is that Harry knew all of this and that’s one of the reasons he wanted out of the BRF long before Meghan.
I thought Cressida wanted to be an actress? Why would they think they “control” her? Plus, I read that she was just using Harry to get her name out in print. She sounds as conniving as Karen Keen, not like some little doormat content with the background.
Cressida was not viewed as intelligent, strong or over educated. She was viewed as a British aristocrat, therefore safe and appropriate. I do not think Cressida wanted to marry Harry. Cressida did not want a Mountbatten-Windsor marriage.
Chelsy was viewed as highly intelligent and over educated with a formidable personality. She was not viewed as safe or appropriate. Also, she was not a British aristocrat or British landed gentry. I do not think Chelsy wanted to marry Harry. She probably wanted a Mountbatten-Windsor marriage even less the Cressida.
From what I’ve heard about Cressida is that she absolutely would have married him. I think she wanted the fame and glamour of it all. You still see her on the red carpet all the time trying to make it. Her god mother was editor of tatler and wrote an open letter to harry when he dumped her asking to take her back. But I don’t think he loved her at all, she was to harry what kate was to William, she was keen, eager to please and could be by his side at the drop of a hat, and willing to put up with any crap. He was in a relationship prior to Cressida with a black girl. The early lipstick alley threads have lots of tea on that. No one could believe it at the time lol. He was with her for like 3 years and when she dumped him, he was trying to make her jealous. He kept trying to get back with this black girl when he was with Cressida, but she told him to get lost.
I do think he and chelsy did love each other, but I don’t think their relationship was healthy. They seemed quite full on, constant fighting, cheating, then make up sex.
I think chelsy is still attached to him, I don’t think she ever got over him and probably still believes they will end up together one day. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was still hooking uk with her right up until he met Meghan. Considering
chelsy left nasty comments up about Meghan on her Instagram shows she’s salty.
I think now in retrospect all his ex’s are probably relieved they got away from that mess, I don’t think anyone could have foreseen what Meghan would have gone through, so I don’t blame his ex’s if they wanted to marry him at the time.
I agree with you February Pisces. Chelsy was with him off and on for 7 years. You don’t spend that much time with someone unless you want a ring. She may have been going but still. I heard they were fine when they were friends but once they get back together they fight again. It seemed pretty toxic.
I don’t but not wanting the royal life. Harry will leave the royal family for you.
I read an article (that I cannot find) written shortly after Harry and Chelsy split. It laid out the strategy the courtiers used to destroy her reputation (previous to split) because, as BTB pointed out above, she was smart, outspoken, and had ambitions outside of the royal family. It was EXACTLY what they did to Meghan – play for play. They really never counted on Harry leaving too. It was kind of chilling.
I don’t think Cressida wanted to marry Harry either, but it was clear that the insiders thought she was a better fit because she was mold-able like Kate.
Kate would have caused Cressida problems. Cressida is half sister to Isabella Calthorpe, the woman that William was interested in . But probably since Cressida is the half sister of William’s hoped for love interest, he would have sided with her over Kate. It would have made for a very interesting situation and an uncomfortable one for Kate.
Diana was labeled “neurotic” by the Charles PR team IMO. Charles and Camilla passed the blame to her. I don’t think that is right. I think Charles had many many more hangups than Diana. In fact there are members of the royal family who are not the epitome of stable to put it mildly Diana’s issues with the royals was that she would not “play nice” with having a mistress involved with her husband. And would not be a doormat.
Can they just leave them alone. JFC
If anything, I think maybe Harry and Meghan might relocate to the East Coast at some point only because the flights to London are way shorter than from LA. I could easily see them moving to NYC (or the NYC metro area) if that was a big factor. LA is not the most convenient location to live in if you plan on flying frequently to the UK. That’s a long flight for a small child and Archie is so young. I say this as someone who used to take yearly flights to Paris to visit my father’s family every summer. My sister and I managed the 6 hour flight pretty well but we were also flying from JFK, not LA. I can’t see any other reason for them to decamp from LA though.
If they decide they can put up with the long flights to London, then I think they will probably stay put. LA is Meghan’s home city, her mom is there, and she has lots of friends and connections. They have a support system in place there.
Perhaps they don’t plan on flying to London very often? Since they stepped down as senior royals I don’t see why they’d need to be in London much.
My guess too is that they wont be flying back and forth a great deal if they settle in LA. Like I bet if they visit, it would be for a solid month or 6 weeks once or twice a year. This year I had expected them back from mid-May to be maybe mid-June (Beatrice’s wedding, Invictus at the Hague, then maybe Ascot or a garden party and then Trooping.) A side effect of the pandemic is that obviously none of that is happening, which is probably good for the Sussexes (excluding Invictus from that) because good lord can you imagine the body language analysis that would have gone on for the balcony during Trooping??
but anyway that’s what I see them doing at least for the next 5 years until Archie starts school – a month block of time in the UK twice a year or so.
What will be interesting to see is if/when the other royals visit THEM.
Yeah no, they’re not living on the east coast. IMO they chose the west coast not only because Doria is still there – and likely hase zero intention of ever leaving LA – but I actually think H&M *want* to be as far away as possible from travel distance to London.
They are not going to be flying to the UK much at all IMO. They’ll go for weddings. Funerals. Maybe a significant birthday. And of course when they have to just fly to Europe on business in general, like the Invictus Games.
But I stand my belief that Archie won’t be seen in the UK until he’s maybe around 8-10 years old, at the earliest. Hell, I think even if the queen *dies* they won’t bring him to the funeral.
And, most importantly, after everything, I don’t think Meghan wants to be too far away from her mom and any other family/friends again (and the majority of all of them live in the LA Area). Nope. They’ll stay West Coast.
Ehh, my SIL and BIL fly to London from California all the time. Why would they move to the east coast when Doria is right there in LA? And why would they make plans to fly back to London when they’re treated so horribly there by Harry’s family?
Why are William and Kate’s still trying to rope the Sussexes into their mini- dramas. Didn’t the Cambridge’s just accuse the Sussexes of throwing their 3 kids under the bus and thinks everything statement they make lands like a bomb or something? The only thing William misses about the Sussexes being in London is being able to leak about them. This whole narrative is ridiculous. This is like the 3rd or 4th article to come out beseeching Harry (and only Harry) to come back. Interesting how these stories always come out after something like the Byline Investigates article, or the Sussexes getting a lot of news coverage. I’m really curious to know what’s really going on over there for this narrative to be put out. Times are weird right now but whatever the Sussexes are doing or how they’re adjusting is something they can figure out without everyone needing to know, especially the leaky Cambridge’s. They seem to have a harder time adjusting to the move than the actual people who have moved.
Meh, its US weekly. They kind of just pull their story parts out of a hat and try to piece it together in a way that can pass as true-ish. I saw the mag this was from and said, “mkay, fanfiction.” Same reaction I have when the DM does a Sussex exclusive. They’re all flinging shit at the wall hoping something sticks. And because people love drama and gossip, negative stories about bratty, catty women and fighting families are what make the most money so they’re what gets published the most. It’s toxic, toxic, toxic.
I wonder when will the papers do a 2010 vs 2020 pic comparison of William
Esp the DM and The Daily Sun in the uk..
Just asking
Because if someone grew horrifically into their real personality over a decade…
It’s definitely Prince William
Sorry to sound so petty and shallow but I cannot put together enough brain cells for a response on this article today
Hey Willileaks here is some advice for you go have ole ma KAREN(carole)Middleton rub YOUR PENIS WITH TEETH
Pig.
Interesting how there are never any articles about Charles beseeching Harry to come back. You would think a father would be concerned about his son? Always about William wanting him to come home. Well we know that William may want Harry home but after that leaking business, I’m sure Harry has no thoughts about moving back any time soon.
Ever think that Chuck is embarrassed in his lack of parenting? Especially since these two are as alike as chalk and cheese in every aspect?
Clearly #Sussexit is in the “How not to raise a future King” Manual… Perhaps on the chapter of entitlement lol….
Charles coddled William and apologized for what WIlliam did wrong–like speeding along in a car on a neighbor’s estate. He was wrapped in cotton wool. Charles also just sat back and let the media label William the Golden Prince and Harry the Bad One. That was unfortunate to me.
LOL. My boyfriend relocated from San Francisco to Los Angeles and our lease started March 1st, I think around the same time Harry and Meghan moved here? We def didn’t anticipate Covid-19 or multi-month quarantine (“….but her emails”) or we would’ve probably waited to sign a lease.
It’s been super weird for my BF’s first months in a new city to be spent sheltering inside because of a global pandemic, but mostly we’re just grateful to be healthy and happy…
Which I’m guessing is probably the way Harry feels, like, LOL. These months have been hard for EVERYONE. If LA isn’t what he expected, that makes sense… Nothing is normal. I feel like the tabloids are literally twisting the surreal nature of quarantine into him being unhappy with his new city (and they pretty clearly mean unhappy with Meghan). It’s just such a bizarre and pathetic stretch.
Sure, Will is the concerned older brother to whom Harry goes to for advice. Despite not speaking one word to him at Harry’s last appearance with him in London.
Lock down is weird, new city or not. They have food and internet, that is what we are all surviving on. He even said he feels a little guilty because he is enjoying so much time with Archie.
Haaaaa. This story is pure fiction.
As if Harry & Meghan weren’t under close surveillance at Kensington Palace and Frogmore Cottage. To wit, imagine their surprise/disgust when fragments of their private conversations wound up in the British tabs. Also, it wouldn’t matter where they lived right now – they’d still be under lockdown, so they’re better off staying put. I am told that they even got new enhanced cell phones to prevent tracking and hacking.
As I’ve said several times before, Harry has made it clear that he will never, ever go back to the U.K. outside of necessary trips for work, weddings, funerals, etc. The betrayal and bitterness runs that deep.
This narrative about Will counseling his brother is one of biggest jokes going on in the tabs. KP has to get the word out big time that the feud is over and the brothers are on speaking terms before Finding Freedom or the court case overwhelm the headlines. I’m sure Wills is calling Harry, pretending to be concerned for his safety, when he’s actually trying to trick Harry into giving him some info so that Wills can turn around and feed the Wooten.
People who say BS about Harry not being safe in LA because of what’s going on are people who clearly have no clue as to how large the LA Area is. There is a reason we all need cars to get around.
H&M live high in the hills of Beverly Hills in a gated section of the area. They are perfectly fine and safe. Hell, I’ll be even more blunt: the ’92 riots after the Rodney King verdict were *way* more worse than this/what’s going on now IMO. The demonstrations and stuff have been much more peaceful and half the city isn’t on fire to the point that smoke is flowing everywhere. The drones are more of a threat than the protesting.
However, that man also lived and worked in a war zone for two tours of duty for 10 years. I think he can deal, and is so NOT calling William all the time about it. Obvious fanfic is obvious.
And everyone’s 2020 plans are in tatters, not just Harry’s. Everyone has had to adjust any initial plans they may have made. Harry isn’t alone in that.
Of course this story needed to come out asap, even if it’s prpbably half true meaning: willy did speak to harry and MADE SURE that during this conversation, he CAREFULLY place the words: “You should come back to London, or go somewhere safer”. Because, will’s next in line to the throne but is also next in line to get cancelled because of all the racism he subjected to meghan, the obvious undertones, the obvious shutting up abpit everything racist against her, the non verbal that was enabling, it won’t be long until black lives matters movement get to him, waitie katie, white petty queen. The UK is sooooo multicultural, they are trying to subtly knit some pre-damage control to look oh so full of care for his brother. Good luck to the white royal family. Meg is going to be the fcking QUEEN after this anti-racism world tornado.
I don’t believe for one second that Harry would give those jealous racist bullies one minute of his time. I also don’t believe that he is having a tough time in LA. He is with his family and living peacefully instead of being bullied. There was more fear for their lives in hateful Britain so there is no way he is in a hurry to go back there. The dolittles don’t want that either. The sussexes out shone them and they were happy to see them go.
lol he’s pleading for his scapegoats to come back and take pressure off him. Their stories even the pictures last released barely got 1000 likes and has about 688 comments!!! The Dolittles are becoming even more irrelevant than chuck and once harry’s lawsuit about their chief of staff leaking stories to sun becomes more apparent their image will be totally ruined. Even their conservative base are tired of them
https://www.ccn.com/meghan-markle-going-ditch-prince-harry-heres-why/
Who gives these trolls airspace?
On the Internet I can be anyone
Yet these people will choose to be Prophets of Doom on someone else’s life?
Also, what exactly makes someone a “Royal expert”? What are the qualifications to be deemed an expert on someone else’s private life?
This is the man who wanted his brother to go live in Wales. Away from the spotlight as the polls indicated that the brother is more popular. In actuality, the brother and new wife got attention, find the spotlight irrelevant and still does. I take what he has to say with a grain of sand, afterall he screwed up a simple Human Resource problem that caused the two most productive members to leave the family’s institution. He is entitled to his opinion.