Duchess Kate made a virtual visit to Clouds House, a rehab facility she last saw in 2012

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The Duchess of Cambridge is all things to all people: a perma-keen top CEO who is currently Zooming herself into an early grave, and yet somehow also a victim of a vicious and vacuous ex-school friend who definitely did her dirty by greenlighting an unflattering Tatler cover story. That’s our Kate! Perhaps realizing that she’d completely mishandled the Tatler thing, Kate finally “got back to work” over the past few days, releasing a photo of the kids and revealing that she and William have both been secretly volunteering. And now this: she made a “virtual visit” to Clouds House last Thursday, and the video went up on Monday. Clouds House is an addiction treatment center which she last visited in 2012. Eight years between visits and the second visit is virtual? That’s our Kate!

The rehab is run by Action on Addiction, one of Kate’s patronages. She even said that it felt like yesterday when she last saw the place, even though, AGAIN, it was eight years ago. She was told that the facility has managed to stay open throughout the pandemic lockdown, and it’s a good thing too because the UK has seen a rise in drinking and gambling during the pandemic. Here’s the video:

Honestly, despite the lack of video quality and such, I’ve found Kate’s manner in these Zoom calls to be quite good? For the first seven years of her marriage, getting her to speak on camera in any way was like pulling teeth, and she was deeply uncomfortable whenever she had to do it. But Lockdown Kate really is somewhat keen – some might even suggest that she prefers these Zoom calls to actual events. Less stress, less time doing her hair and makeup, she doesn’t have to worry about angles and how she’s being photographed and all that. It’s too bad that William and Kate’s aides are reportedly looking to start scheduling some in-person events with social distancing, at least according to Katie Nicholl at Vanity Fair.

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  1. Becks1 says:

    The 2012 comment was perfection. she really wasn’t expecting him to call her out like that. She’s been to a few galas for Action on Addiction IIRC (the last one being in the white off the shoulder dress, with a smattering of applause that was super awkward) but overall, for one of her first patronages, she really seems to have done the least possible for it.

    There’s a version of the zoom call added to youtube (I think the royal family channel) and it edits out the 2012 comment, lol.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      This is not the only patronage she has done the least for, there is EACH and Art Room. both of which she has done about 2 events for.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        EACH is a somewhat sore spot with the Turnip Toffs.

      • notasugarhere says:

        And The Art Room had to close be cause of lack of funds. Having Kate as patron has done nothing for it or for the parent charity, Place2Be.

        Yes, Becks1, seeing as Rose and Rocksavage ended up doing a fundraiser because Keen was doing nothing. EACH also had to wrangle in Ed Sheeran because Kate refused to attend their inaugural fund raising gala.

      • Bee says:

        The Art Room never closed, they adjusted their business model because the previous one was not financially sustainable. They are still very much open for business. It’s all laid out on their website.

      • Mtec says:

        @Bee
        Yes, they’re still open. But they were struggling financially and one of the main reasons Royals are patrons of charities is to raise money for them. The Art Room had to close 8 rooms and more to a more digital format in order to stay afloat, and even then it wasn’t Kate that helped them stay afloat, it was “Emmy O’Shaughnessy, from Oxford arts charity the Ark T Centre” partnering with another charity to raise $50k that has been one of the reasons so far The Art Room’s been able to remain open. Since 2013 I still have yet to find what Kate has done for that patronage. Yes The Art Room hasn’t completely failed—but that was in no way due to Kate’s help. So it is fitting for her to be criticized for it. Specially since she pretends mental health and children are two things she’s deeply passionate about.

      • notasugarhere says:

        ‘We are now developing a more accessible and financially-viable model for the Art Room, as a mobile service that would enable us to reach more children and young people in the future. ‘

        Yes, the Art Room had to close physically because of lack of funding. Merging with another charity, having to no longer have a physical space, planning to try to move forward with a mobile unit? Yep, that equals closed to me. Kate as patron is useless. They wouldn’t have financial troubles if she got her ass in gear and did her job.

      • Mtec says:

        @NotASugarHere
        Exactly! Also how simple would it have been for her to do a zoom chat with her kids (whom she likes to use for PR) and do a Zoom art session with the Art Room I order to highlight how they’re taking their services online? People would have immediately forgotten how badly she had failed that patronage, had she done something that simple. But ofc Kate is not expected to do even the bare minimum for her patronages, so they’re left to remodel the entire way they operate in order to remain open.

      • Mac says:

        If a nonprofit is relying on a single person to be financially viable, it’s not financially viable. I see this all the time in the nonprofit space, and especially now. Eager leadership over expands in good times and then has no cushion when hard times inevitably hit.

      • Mtec says:

        @Mac
        No one is saying they should have relied solely on Kate to help them financially, the critique is that Kate has barely done something, if anything, as their patron to raise funding for them. Literally tried to google the last time she did something for The Art Room, and not one thing has popped up since 2013. If anyone else can find something she’s done for it, please by all means my correct assumption.

      • Ginger says:

        The thing that bothered me is that Kate could have held an auction and auctioned off one of her dresses or some jewelry to help them. Didn’t Diana and Charles do that?

      • Tessa says:

        Diana and Charles were divorced when Diana auctioned her dresses. Charles had nothing to do with it.

    • Bella DuPont says:

      @ Becks

      Lol at smattering of applause. That is still far better than the crickets they’ve gotten at the last 2 Bafta Awards.

      • Becks1 says:

        ooh the BAFTAs this year were AWKWARD. This clip had the same vibe – there’s applause and it ends so she walks up to the podium in silence.

    • Vava says:

      I can’t stand the sound of her voice, it’s like scraping a blackboard to my ears. That phony accent is so annoying.
      Go away, Kate.

      • xo says:

        I always think of it as phony, too & it really influences my perception of her. It’s so telling that she felt she had to do that. . . .

      • NoWords says:

        I think it stems from insecurity. She’s been put down for her background so she tries to hide it. I say it’s telling that she felt she had to do that b/c it shows to me that people have their heads so far up their ass about social class in the 21st century that they snicker at a “commoner accent.”

      • WigletWatcher says:

        Nowords
        Kate was put down for chasing William and having no self respect in doing so. Then she was mocked for having an extremely exaggerated posh accent. Beyond what even William and the aristocratic circle they live in has. Not because she spoke differently. Because it was beyond fake.

    • Sid says:

      It must have grated on him that after 8 years of no visits their organization gets pulled in to help up her working numbers and to show the public she is doing something. And forgive me for comparing, but if I were him it would be irksome to see how much attention and funding Meghan was able to attract for her patronages in such a short time, while his organization is stuck with a patron who lacks initiative.

    • February Pisces says:

      The fact that they have edited out the ‘2012’ comment on the YouTube clip shows that they were very bothered by it, and recognised the shade. Lol.

      Kate doing the bare minimum is nothing new. I remember reading a anon comment from one the charities workers she’s patron for and apparently she cancelled on them about 8 times before visiting. When she eventually turned up she wasn’t rude or anything but she did the bare minimum and didn’t hug any of the sick children or anything. She kind of just turns up and gets her picture taken. Some of the parents there were heaping praise on her, which made the staff a bit annoyed considering they are the ones that actually do the work and she hasn’t even bothered with them. They person who commented said she initially was a fan of Kate’s, but seeing her in action completely changed her opinion of her.

      • NatureLover says:

        @February Pisces, it takes a lot of nerve to edit the you tube version when it is still in the video. When are they going to stop protecting her and start holding her feet to the fire? It sickens me the way they treated Meghan who could have been an incredible patron with Harry by her side. But instead the beat her down daily, several times a day and ran them both out of the country. And TQ was so petty about it when she striped Harry of his military patronage’s.

  2. Osty says:

    I bet she forgot about them but her PR pple looking tru the archives to find a charity for her to continue her Corona PR chanced on it

    • bamaborn says:

      You think she has PR people? Don’t understand why they are not competent enough to match her skills with the many charities that need help. Going beyond her desires or capabilities just makes her look inept. She appears to do well with children, why not start with that?

      • Alexandria says:

        Of course she has PR people. Just not inept people or people who can stand the their work ethic. People who can’t work hard will need to hire people to justify that they need to hire to pump up their numbers and then have someone to blame for not doing a good job.

      • Love says:

        Also as Kaiser noted above, there has been a remarkable rise in drinking/gambling. Perfect PR, to now be supporting these guys.

        I have read though, that The push for a focus on mental health was Catherine’s idea, so bravo to her, if true. (I know, Harry took the idea and ran away with it. Great initiatives coming with every breath he takes)…

      • Nic919 says:

        Christian Jones is her communications director aka PR.

      • WigletWatcher says:

        love
        If “catherine” had an original idea we’d be hearing g about it for months if not years of how keen she was to think of it.

        Kate has a team that takes 1 good event and stretches it out with mini leaks for weeks.
        Like the zoom calls or the gardening or the single visit of her children delivering pasta.

        H & M churn out loads of substance and actual progress that’s more than PR. All while ignoring the Cambridge’s attempts to deflect from their own apathy for their duties and the constant racial attacks approved by KP and BP.

    • VS says:

      Kate could have benefited so much from Meghan. Meghan has the skills that Kate desperately needs. Like how to speak in public, how to hold a conversation/discussion with adults; how to relax, etc….

      I know a lot of people make fun of her; I think she is mediocre but she could have learned a lot had she formed an alliance with Meghan instead of letting jealousy run the day

      My goodness, the woman really struggles; the UK wanted tiaras, tights, protocol blablabla woman; very few over there should complain…

    • NatureLover says:

      @Osty, I don’t think that her PR team are just now having her visit. I can bet that they kept bringing it up to her and she would refuse to attend any of the meeting in the past. It was only due to the Tattler piece that she was pounding at her PR team to find one of her patronage’s that she hasn’t visited in awhile. It’s perfectly makes sense since she cancelled on the other 8 times in the past. She is truly lazy and it will probably become worse when Wil is king.

  3. Digital Unicorn says:

    Wow, she really is that stupid – to say thats it’s been a long time since she last spoke to them when literally her only public engagement was 8 years ago.

    Plus, she really is cosplaying Meghan with the dressed down look. From the top to the hair and makeup – I really wish she would drop the panda eyes, it ages her.

    But as others have said I think she does seem more relaxed with these Zoom calls against how she is in person.

    • L84Tea says:

      Something is also going on with her eyebrows. I thought the same thing during one of the last Zoom calls too when she was wearing the white lacy shirt. She looks like she’s had waaaaay too much botox because her eyebrows are starting to do that Victoria Beckham thing where they don’t move and stay in a straight line.

      • Nic919 says:

        We are now 3 months into this lockdown and her botox should have worn off by now. She’s clearly getting work done during this lockdown. That’s her priority over giving a shit about any of her patronages.

      • Mac says:

        Wasn’t the ban on elective medical procedures lifted at the end of April? Dermatologists reopened in my state two weeks ago.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Mac I think it depends on where you are. We just started that around mid-May (elective medical procedures) and I’m not sure how the UK is handling those kinds of things during this.

      • WigletWatcher says:

        with enough funds you could always get injections. That never truly stopped.

    • Mtec says:

      Yes! I see the cosplay! It’s creepy. Also, the tan is out of control.

      • Nic919 says:

        Some have done side by sides with Meghan’s recent speech and she looks darker than Meghan. It’s really bizarre that she’s doing this. William doesn’t look this tanned either. Kate is clearly going to that 1980s leather as skin look.

      • Becks1 says:

        @nic – she is definitely more tanned now and “smoother” – I saw a bunch of her zoom pics lined up on twitter and her forehead hasn’t looked that smooth in a long time, she’s definitely having work done, I bet someone comes to her house and does it.

    • BeanieBean says:

      She’s doing a lot better in these calls than in her prepared speeches. It may also be due to the editing, of course, but still. One question that’s been bugging me about her videos, or hers & Will’s–why position your chair/s in front of a door that if opened, will bash the back of your chair? Inquiring minds want to know.

  4. Sofia says:

    Remember when the Sussexes first announced they were leaving and we got faux outrage over how she would work with her patronages if she wasn’t living in the UK?

    Yet Kate can visit her patronage (or at least an off-shoot of it) 8 years later and no one bats an eyelash? Kate be “unavailable” to visit her patronages when she’s on the same island as them and no one questions it but Meghan, who has visited her patronages several times, has her commitment questioned.

    • S808 says:

      I remember this— the nerve! They need to worry about why the future future Queen consort hasn’t visited her patronages in years despite being in the same country.

  5. Royalwatcher says:

    I loved how the guy on the other end totally called her out!!!
    Him: the last visit was in 2012.
    Her: 8 years… *nervous giggle* my how time flies

    I’m surprised KP didn’t edit that part out lol.

    Also, she’s totally reading from cue cards off to the side. You can see her eyes moving back and forth. She shouldn’t need them for such casual conversation (although we’ve seen similar in her “speeches” – “thank you for *turns page* having me here today”). I don’t get why they wouldn’t have put right above her camera so she doesn’t look so awkward! Again, amateur hour at KP.

    • Becks1 says:

      I said that on twitter yesterday – she is absolutely reading from cue cards. It probably helps her to seem more confident and relaxed because she’s not worried about remembering details or filling awkward silences.

    • Ginger says:

      I agree. I’m not impressed by her zoom calls. She is clearly reading notes and can’t have a causal conversation without help.

      I’m glad she got called out for her lack of visits. She only seems to show up for them when it’s a gala. Let’s see if she keeps her commitment to visit after the lockdown is lifted.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “She only seems to show up for them when it’s a gala.”

        I think that is the same way she treats EACH.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She didn’t even show up for the EACH inaugural gala. The fund raiser Rose and Rocksavage did wasn’t the gala. Ed Sheeran had to be brought in as celebrity patron to oversee/attend the official inaugural fund raiser gala, because Kate wouldn’t attend.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Maybe Keen Karen Kensington did not want to do any work for EACH or really be involved because she is allergic to Rose Bushes?

      • NoWords says:

        Aw, I can’t rip on her for using cue cards. Some people are better at speaking on their feet and others aren’t. I have horrific ADHD and man, I would probably be carrying around a notebook to record and write convos in if I were in her position because otherwise, conversations with me would be a chaotic mess.

        That being said…..this was really awkward to watch because of that 2012 comment. That was not a good look and hopefully being called out like that so publically resonates with her.

      • Becks1 says:

        @NoWords – oh I actually don’t blame her for using cue cards (I think its kind of silly she needs them when talking to a charity she has been patron of for 8 years, but that aside….) – I think a list of talking points or questions in general isn’t a bad idea and I think we have seen that she is not good at asking substantive questions on the fly (“can you taste the smell by smelling it?”) more preparation before visits would of course help with that but alas….a.

        I just think the cue cards/whatever they are help her to seem more relaxed and knowledgeable because she has the information right there.

      • NoWords says:

        Becks1,

        I am horrible, HORRIBLE at on the fly speaking, which again, is probably why I am like the only person on here who doesn’t consider the slight awkwardness and lack of charisma from the Cambridges to be one of the things to rag on them for; I could not even do what Kate does… lol. My social anxiety just takes over and my brain goes to mush. I start stuttering, sweating, word vomiting, etc.,. Couple that with ADHD and oh boy, I can barely keep topics and sentences straight. It’s humiliating. I’ve been mocked and shit talked about by people for it so I simply cannot justify perpetuating that cycle and doing to someone else what has hurt me – I’d also just be mocking myself by extension.

      • Becks1 says:

        @NoWords – I’m not very good at it either, so I gave Kate a big pass for YEARS for this, because for some people its just not their strength, or there may be some anxiety at play, and I can understand that. so that’s why I said I’m not really criticizing for the cue cards. I would probably use them myself if I could, lol.

        The problem with Kate is that it is difficult sometimes to discern how much is anxiety and how much is just lack of interest and preparation. I used to say that a lot of it was anxiety but now I’m swinging back to lack of interest.

      • WigletWatcher says:

        nowords
        You come off as a kate apologist.
        Kate has never had an issue when she’s interested. Like Wimbledon or yachts. Nothing needed and she will be there even when weather literally cancelled the event. Like a yachting race some years back.

        So, why cue cards now? Because she can’t be bothered to check in more than every 8 years?
        I guess, show me where she cares and just needs cue cards because of anxiety?

      • yinyang says:

        Me too Nowords- I don’t mind use of cue cards, it means she came prepared, it’s proffessional and helps keep in focus and emphasizes certain ideas in an organized way for the listener. But I think if you are passionate you don’t really need to rely on them too much and can veer off a little.

      • notasugarhere says:

        This, WigletWatcher. When she’s interested, golly all of a sudden she doesn’t look bored and doesn’t stumble over words. Fact is, Kate does not care about charity or the people helped by those charities. She is completely wrong for this role.

  6. Laalaa says:

    I’ve seen the video yesterday and it seems to me she is very familiar with their management, so she maybe hasn’t been there, but she keeps in touch?
    And yes, she seems more relaxed via zoom, but mind you, we never actually see or hear her speak with people during the visits, we just see the photos.
    Also, I think her confidence comes with age. She is in her late 30s, she accomplished herself in a sense of – she provided the heir and the spare and the spare 2, and our late 30s bring something to us when it comes to confidence.
    I just wish it wasn’t becoming even more obvious that Meghan did the right thing to get away from the whole mess. Meghan was completely bullied, things will come out as time goes, we’ve already seen it happening. She didn’t have a chance 🙁

    • notasugarhere says:

      She’s reading cue cards prepared by a staff person who did the research for her. As Becks1 points out, someone at the charity called out the lack of attention since 2012. She hasn’t been keeping track, phoning, or visiting. As Nic919 reminds us, whenever Kate does something, even a phone meeting, it is put in the Court Circular. She has done nothing for them for eight years. Eight years??

    • notasugarhere says:

      Clouds House is two hours from London and only one hour from Anmer. No excuse for failing to visit in person for the last EIGHT years.

      • Mtec says:

        When I mapped it shows Clouds House approximately 4 hours away from Anmer Hall —not that that’s an excuse, just fyi.

      • Tessa says:

        Kate and William have residence in KP certainly they could spend some time there to reach Clouds House in a timely way.

      • Sarah says:

        They travel by helicopter! No excuse.

  7. Eleonor says:

    I think she is better at zoom too, my opinion is because less pressure: she doesn’t have the world press looking at her, she is at home, so a comfort zone, and she has to wear a casual look.
    Probably she feels more at ease.
    Now I can go back to the she hasn’t seen one of her patronage since 2012???

    • Alexandria says:

      So… she can’t perform with all that pressure 10 years into the job and Meghan just dives into her passion and work for the Crown dutifully though she gets mercilessly attacked for breathing, walking, giving birth, holding her child, wearing clothes, marrying a white person. Kate is just doing bare minimum here and she’s lauded by the BM. We get it Katie Keen. You can just remain mediocre and it’s alright, it’s ok.

    • Nic919 says:

      Everyone is trying to come up with reasons for not visiting this patronage In 8 years but the only answer is : she does not care. She has been lazy for years and if she cared about her patronage she would visit it annually. She certainly makes an effort for the fancy gala events. Or the museum ones. The ones that involve more substance she just doesn’t care about.

      • Original Jenns says:

        She. Has. 21. Patronages/Charities. Total. 21. 21. I absolutely agree that she can’t care about them, only about her optics.

      • WigletWatcher says:

        The fancy museum events are galas. They were also seen as a high end patronage that didn’t need a more high profile association.

  8. Aurora says:

    These Zoom calls have been a godsend for the Keens. I think they do several of these calls on the same day then release them intermittently to create the impression of constant work. They are literally working a few hours a week.

    • Becks1 says:

      Absolutely that is what they do. they probably sit down for 2-3 hours at a clip and the videos get released a few times a week to give the illusion of more work.

      • notasugarhere says:

        This is what she used to do in the past with in-person visits. Her fans were all excited when she was photographed visiting one of her charities, claiming it was one of dozens of secret visits. Not. Turned out she was there for 30 minutes filming a five minute PSA which was released weeks later. As usual, an awkward PSA where she couldn’t dredge up a bit of interest in the charity. Could have been the one where she couldn’t pronounce ‘palliative’ properly.

      • Lisa says:

        And the change of clothes in between cracks me up. Don’t bother- we know it’s the same days, Keens!

  9. Izzy says:

    His comment was delightful, a forest full of shade.

  10. Beth says:

    Some of the comments on daily fail is gold.Comments moderator was probably on leave. On a serious note I hope the guy in the video that outed her doesn’t lose his job…

    • MissF says:

      You know the situation’s bad for the Keen (Future) Kween when even the Daily Mail commenters are pissed. She hasn’t had comments this bad since the arrival of Meghan in late 2016.

  11. VS says:

    It seems like some of her patronages might not be too happy with her WORK………..anyway, they wanted the RF as it is now, they got it! they should deal with it! NEXT……….

  12. Bella DuPont says:

    Kate filibusters…..and is she *reading* something to the left of her screen?! 🤭🤫

  13. Chica1971 says:

    Is the tanning used to distract from the lack of Botox? The headshot says so. She really looks like her mother here

  14. MsDiMeanOur says:

    Is this what she really deems as “Following in Diana’s footsteps”?

    I just watched She Wolves on Netflix about previous queen’s of England who fought for their right to rule

    And then this social climber is sending monarchy back to medieval times undoing what previous queen’s fought so hard for… Jeez… Its 2020

    Grow a spine

  15. Jay says:

    I’m glad she is doing something – I’ve been teaching on zoom during quarantine, and it can be very stressful because you don’t always get a lot of cues from your “audience”, but maybe it is helpful for her?

    I would feel so embarrassed to have it pointed out that I hadn’t checked in for eight years! Maybe that will be a wake up call?

  16. S808 says:

    Since 2012??? She doesn’t have many patronages so it’s not like this place slipped thru the cracks. A visit should be a minimum wtf?

    • Ginger says:

      I know. It’s not like she has hundreds of patronage’s like the Queen or Charles. She can easily fit a visit a year for them. It shows her lack of commitment. I would feel insulted if I were them. It just shows how little she cares for her patronage’s.

    • Carrie says:

      She didn’t even have children then so what was her excuse? What was she busy with then? Mediocre and work shy while accepting all the perks. Just ick.

    • Olenna says:

      One of her stans who religiously trashes Meghan defends Keen’s work history with this BS: “She’s been working since 2011…, 1201 engagements even after only being a full time royal since 2017 and being on maternity leave 3 times. Long-standing programmes implemented in schools and hospices, projects, volunteering etc… #KateMiddletonTopCEO.” The “full time royal since 2017” part just took me out, LOL!

      • Becks1 says:

        It’s particularly annoying because what was basically what H&M wanted to do – step back from being FT royals for a while, like Will and Kate did for the first 6 years of their marriage. And then in 2017 Kate got pregnant with Louis and we still haven’t seen her really become a FT royal.

        The Sussexes were proposing to be part time royals AND to do other work, and that was apparently completely unacceptable.

      • Olenna says:

        @Becks1,
        Agree, the Sussexes wanted to work part-time but were dragged for even proposing it. Meghan worked through her pregnancy, with RESULTS, but even now there are RRs, commentators and haters who think she didn’t do anything of note but whine about the press. There was/is nothing the Sussexes did or planned to do that isn’t double-standard fodder for the tabloid BM and haters. They will twist themselves into knots to put a negative spin on everything Sussex and positive on everything Cambridge.

      • Nic919 says:

        In that same time period Charles probably did close to 5000 so she’s done a quarter of that in a decade. That’s pathetic.
        This whole part time full time thing is just another excuse for the low numbers. They certainly got full benefits and perks even with low work.

      • Ginger says:

        Kate and Will just hide behind excuses for their laziness

  17. Aurora says:

    Meanwhile the Financials of two of Meghan’s patronages , Mayhew & Smartworks have show considerable growth the past year.

    • notasugarhere says:

      And one of Kate’s, The Art Room, closed because of lack of funding.

  18. Ruby_Woo says:

    I’m surprised they didn’t cut that comment out, lol.

    To be fair to her, she’s improved massively and seems much more relaxed and forthright in her speaking, which is good.

    I get a feeling that she might go on a visit blitz once the lockdown is completely removed and visit all her patronages.

    • NoWords says:

      Hopefully she does because this was a pretty public call out.

      I empathize with the woman because I see a lot of me in her little mannerisms that just kind of give off the vibe that she is compartmentalizing a lot. I hate being an armchair psych and that is not my intent here but she seems very anxious often, as if it stems from a place of poor self-esteem. I know mental health issues run in her family and she has made many vague comments about struggles in early motherhood. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was something up; she’s been mind f*cked by the BRF since she was a teenager.

  19. Florence says:

    I want to scrub those eyebrows off so badly.

    Well done for the bare minimum again Cathy, surely an inspiration to us all.

    “Hez uh lot cheenged?” she asks. Shouldn’t you be keeping up with that, Katie Bucket??

  20. FC says:

    OT but she definitely has a tanning bed at Anmer Hall, right?

    • FureverPuppy says:

      From the lighting, she is facing a window, so she appears tan. I have the same setup for my home office and I look really tan compared to everyone else on zoom.

      • Mtec says:

        That’s not just lightning. She has been in that room many times, in angles not much different from this video, and the lighting seems the same, and she was never this tan.

      • Nic919 says:

        William never looks as tan as her in the same room.

    • OriginalLala says:

      I was also wondering – what’s going on with her face? she is much darker, and her nose is a different shape? A Zoom filer perhaps?

    • February Pisces says:

      She’s almost the same shade of red as her shirt. I think the only think kate has been working in during lockdown is her tan.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Or she chose a new shade for her spray tanning. Both she and Pippa were very orange for years.

      • FC says:

        True I guess it’s more likely spray tan. I just like the idea of Kate shipping a tanning bed to Anmer Hall lol.

  21. yinyang says:

    New colour every zoom call– how exciting, has she nothing else to worry about. I dont know if shes been doing fillers like crazy during lockdown or its photo filters…but there is no droopy skin or jowls in sight, no wonder she prefers this.

  22. Ali says:

    Kate was reading from off screen.

    There is a point in the video where she starts to stumble in her speech.

    • Lizzie says:

      Yes. I think staff were holding up several different replies and she was searching for the right one.
      And Meghan did her graduation video with no notes.

  23. Cosmo says:

    Amazing that she was called out. It seems like yesterday…ya right. Karen needs to do a better job than this or even the RM are going to start coming after her.

  24. Aurora says:

    Is it me it or is she angling for Meghan’s skin tone? She almost looks darker than Meghan at this point.

    • Mtec says:

      Not just you

    • Nic919 says:

      I’m going to say it’s not that she’s trying to look like Meghan, but that the Middleton women tend to go for that “tan so that your skin looks like leather” look. Pippa always looked like this and Carole has as well. Tanning for Kate is likely a way to deal with having to be stuck at her with her husband and kids more than she’s used to.

  25. MsDiMeanOur says:

    The daily Fail claims she looks amazing in red.

    Is that what women are reduced to? Clothes hangers?

    Oh wait. That’s all the BM does. Show half naked people alleging that they are stars.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “Show half naked people alleging that they are stars”

      This is 100% The Daily Fail online and The Dim. The British Media has many fine publications. It is the British Tabloid Media that is the problem but it does give the readership.viewership exactly what they want. The click$ and comment$ generated prove the tabloids give their readership what they want. Today because there are no Sussexes to beat up on, the tabloids are beating up on the Beckham’s.

      • MsDiMeanOur says:

        I lived in England for 2 years and it was a huge culture shock for me (I am South African)
        My ex husband at the time worked at the Evening Standard and I really did get the finer articles and reporting
        But the people are really more interested in buying the DM and DS
        Especially during rush hour in London, it’s all that’s being read.
        Like you said, it’s click bait. I apologise for generalising I was just peeved off at their highlight of Katie Keen’s outfit and no mention of the content (or lack thereof) of the actual call… Or her lack of availability for her charity

    • Lizzie says:

      Well what else is there to praise about this video? There is no substance.

      • NoWords says:

        They could have talked about the charity. I mean, even when William does a charity event they focus on the mission. In fact, I never see any stories dissecting men’s clothing, appearance, and every relationship they have with people; the tabs always focus on the actual substance. Then you look at stories about women and……….clothes, makeup, weight, catfight, makeup, weight, clothes, drama. It’s ridiculous.

      • VS says:

        @NoWords —– Lizzie asked a good question; what’s the substance here? compare this to Meghan’s speech from last week! you feel like the 2 women are from different worlds! Have you seen any serious newspapers talking about the Meghan’s speech focusing on her clothes or hair?

        The British media don’t talk the content of this ‘engagement’ because there is really nothing to say; she said nothing worth repeating or worth highlighting…….by the time you scroll down to the comments, you probably have already forgotten what she said…..so what’s the point really?

        As far as I am concerned, this is exactly the RF royalists deserve! no substance, all clothes…at least no ‘wrong’ nail polisher or tights protocol with her. Those are important THINGS for members of the RF! LOL

  26. aquarius64 says:

    No visit since 2012? What a joke.

  27. Ohpioneer says:

    She could easily do one visit per year with each of her patronages (19 right?) and do them all in one month and still work less hours than I do on vacation lol.

  28. Lizzie says:

    Once again the DM headline is something about glowing in her red shirt. I didn’t watch the video but it must be bad if they are going back to her top color. First it was the rainbow colors and now red.

  29. Sunday says:

    saw this on twitter about this zoom meeting and it’s very petty but LORD I could not stop laughing: https://twitter.com/SussexDetective/status/1270106123438370818?s=20

    • Mtec says:

      LOLL! Thanks for sharing that 😂😂😂

    • Olenna says:

      Dead! That dithering word salad, LOL!

    • (TheOG) jan90067 says:

      😂😂🤣😂🤣 Priceless!

    • MsDiMeanOur says:

      Awwww
      Really needed a heart to love your link

      Best thing I’ve read all day 🤣🤣🤣

    • Feeshalori says:

      Catherine the Can’t….I’m dying here.

    • NoWords says:

      Hot take but please, please hear me out everyone!!
      Kate’s work ethic sucks so I say focus on that rather than mocking her. When I was being bullied my mother always told me to never stoop to their level and become what caused me so much pain. Those posts are where it goes from being constructive criticism to bullying, and bullying Kate will solve the racist BS Meghan faces.
      I know you guys are so angered and hurt by the awful BS Meghan has gone through. And your feelings are completely valid b/c it’s absolutely tragic. The SussexSquad makes waves and if you guys could take all the “Kate hate” and redirect that energy into some movement of peace in honor of M&H it would make a HUGE impact. Like Meghan said, we need empathy in this world more than ever, even toward those we believe do not deserve it (except Andrew. F*ck that guy).

      • Nic919 says:

        You assume her poor speaking skills relate to some kind of difficulty and not just plain not being prepared for the topic at hand and using a fake accent. She wasn’t horrible during the bingo thing because she didn’t need to discuss anything of substance. She always looks poor when actual prep work needs to be done. After almost ten years of patronages she supposedly cares about it really looks like she just doesn’t understand what she is saying and has not prepared enough to be knowledgeable in the subject.

        The time for excuses is long past. She sang a musical in secondary school and was Eliza Doolittle. She wasn’t shy then or at any point near Ben Ainslie. When the anxiety only shows up where actual work was involved then the answer is she didn’t do the work.

      • VS says:

        @NoWords…….. I hear you; any sympathy I had for this mediocre woman went out of the door when she participates in the FlyBe stunt…….unless she is unable to say No to William, she willingly went along with that plan! W did something like that to his own brother and his wife said NOTHING?

        Can you do something like that to a sibling? have so much envy that you do anything to destroy your own blood? I am talking about the Markles here; Meghan was unlucky but H didn’t know yet he was on the same boat as her. The only difference is that his family has some money……

      • NoWords says:

        Nic919,
        To play devil’s advocate: I’m introverted with awful social anxiety, and nobody would describe me that way b/c I’ve learned to compartmentalize well. But it can still come out inconsistently, even if I prepare – just depends on where my head is at that day. There isn’t a lot of pressure to bingo but there is when presenting in front of experts and the world.
        My comment though was more about how a) videos like the twitter one cross into bullying territory b/c they’re mean-spirited, not constructive, b) all the time and energy spent mocking Kate could be used to create movements based on what M&H value, c) while I’m not a stan or even a fan of any of these people, I still empathize with you all and your frustrations toward all the crap Meghan has been through and lastly, d) empathy, we need more empathy.

      • NoWords says:

        VS,
        If they truly did that then yes, that is beyond shitty. But I don’t know for sure if they did so I am reserving judgment until the court cases (I prefer concrete proof because tabloids are sketchy and the BRF is super sketchy. All that plane stuff happened right around Epstein and we DO have proof that mummy will throw anyone and everyone under the bus for her favorite little pedo). But Meghan rises above this stuff and responds with empathy. I think that’s the way to handle bad people instead of being vitriolic right back, I guess.

        Unless it’s Andrew because f*ck that guy.
        I’m just going to add that to the bottom of every comment I make. It’s a tag now.

      • VS says:

        @NoWords………..are you saying those pictures of them boarding FlyBe were fake? you can be empathetic to K because of your own experience, I get that but mediocrity is still mediocrity……this is the woman who was supposed to show the way to Meghan? this is the woman whom Meghan made cry? this is the woman who wore ‘yellow-white new coat dress at Meghan’s wedding? this is the woman who behaved like a bitch at the CW services (according to you, those must be fake) ? she knows passive aggressive but she should never open her mouth because she has nothing worthwhile to say to the world except to her family

        You will have to excuse me………I will laugh!!!! I could have empathized but she is not a woman who supports other women; she is the type who would throw excellent women under the bus to hide her mediocrity!

      • notasugarhere says:

        10 YEARS and all the help in the world to improve. She chooses not to.

        40 percent of the world are introverts. We still manage to go to work, run businesses, give speeches, pay our own bills, take care of our homes, and raise our kids without three nannies.

        Honestly, the pathetic excuses for this woman amaze me.

  30. Nyro says:

    Not surprised about her not visiting the charity for eight years. It’s clear she just needed more zoom pr and her people pulled up something for her to do. And the guy was clearly being passive aggressive when he called her out and good for him. The nerve of her. Anyway, she’s lazy and lacks passion. I really don’t think she gives a crap about anything or anyone outside her little bubble and it shows. She does little to nothing and even with her tiny workload, she can’t even put in a good effort let alone strive for excellence. I know her patronages wish they had Meghan on their team.

  31. Beach Dreams says:

    She’s certainly more relaxed in Zoom videos but the effort she gives is as half-assed as ever. I loved that little call-out about her abysmal lack of visits; he actually made her look sheepish for her laziness. Also, she looks like she’s using the same spray tan as Trump.

  32. CrystalBall says:

    She gives the impression of a dispassionate news reader.

  33. Gingerbee says:

    Let me see how the RR will report on this. If it was Meghan, we would be inundated with the news.

  34. Lizzie says:

    BP backed the wrong horse. They should have put Meghan out there and told Kate to shut up and wear her buttons.
    Very similar to Trump threatening to fire Jared because he was on the cover of a magazine. BP went after H&M when their popularity eclipses W&K. BP likes to say they take the long view but that move was very short sighted. Everything is cyclical and H&M’s popularity would have probably dimmed a bit in it’s own time and W&K would have risen in the years to come. It also would have been smart to make W&K work for good publicity.
    Now they have lost 2 princes and the duchess who gets the job done and are stuck with the praising Kate for the color of her shirt.

  35. Awkward symphony says:

    lol the theory that they read from cue cards has been proven true😂 despite being a royal for years they still cant even handel a casual chat without pre scripted answers!!! How embarrassing is that.
    They are not like us normal people who HAVE TO stand up & do presentations for work..etc
    And the fact that a women who’s clearly having stylist and hair dresser whilst in lockdown(and clearly refilling the forehead) wont get help with speaking is frankly sad. Either this is all for show, like the clumsy boris act with the messy hair or she’s the most unmotivated dispassionate person in the world!!!

    • Nic919 says:

      Isn’t that the issue ? She certainly makes sure that she has time to get her hair and face done but god forbid she reads up on the actual patronage. Most of these places she’s had for years so none of this should be new to her. This one in particular she’s had since 2012 and she still doesn’t really know what to say? That’s just laziness.

  36. Amelie says:

    Kate is definitely more comfortable with the Zoom calls! I think there is less pressure since the media/photographers aren’t following her around clicking and she can have more genuine one on one conversations instead of being brought to 5-6 different groups zipping through the facility. The Zoom calls are being recorded obviously but apart from Kate’s team maybe setting up a camera in her Zoom room and recording her Zoom calls, it’s easier to forget you’re being recorded. She’s sitting by herself in her Zoom room so it feels more intimate and natural since she is in her home space.

    But as everyone mentioned above, she could deign to make an appearance here at least once a year? Only one visit since 2012?

    And her eye makeup needs to be redone. The pencil liner is looking rough. At least they fixed the awkward angle of the camera, it seems like they rose it by a few inches so it’s probably sitting on a pile of books or something similar.

  37. Cg2495 says:

    Haha! He call her out in a fantastic fashion! I feel terrible for her patronages….they have a lazy person , unable to create tangible results and raise money for their causes.

  38. calibration says:

    I’m from New Zealand and totally used to english accents of course but I find her very hard to understand, in a way that is strange. I get she had elocution (I did too) but they didn’t do a great job. she sounds too posh in a way that posh people do not sound! Can’t pinpoint what is going wrong with her speaking though