Ghislaine Maxwell is due to “appear” in court today, via video-linkup from the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn. I don’t believe the video linkup has anything to do with any threats on her life or anything like that, I think it’s just a pandemic thing – stuff like bail hearings are happening via Zoom all over the place. So Ghislaine will likely be staying in Brooklyn for a while and the conditions are not five-star. In fact, Ghislaine is apparently so distraught that prison officials are now putting her on suicide watch:
Alleged Jeffrey Epstein fixer Ghislaine Maxwell has been forced to wear paper clothes and sleep on paper sheets so she won’t hang herself with them like Epstein, according to a report. Federal authorities outside the Bureau of Prisons have been assigned to ensure Maxwell does not kill herself and is not harmed by other inmates while she is jailed at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, a source told the Associated Press.
The safety protocols are far more stringent than those applied to her after her arrest in New Hampshire last week. A former warden at the Brooklyn prison said Maxwell should be put on suicide watch.
The Justice Department has implemented additional safety precautions and tasked federal officials with preventing Maxwell from harming herself or others from attempting harm, according to the official, who listed other protocols including ensuring she has a roommate in her cell, consistently monitoring her and making sure there is always someone with her while she’s behind bars.
These heightened safety protocols follow the apparent suicide of Epstein while awaiting trial; an official coroner’s report says Epstein used bedsheets to hang himself in his Manhattan prison cell, but revelations that the cameras weren’t working and guards were sleeping during the incident have sparked concerns about foul play.
“…Ensuring she has a roommate in her cell, consistently monitoring her and making sure there is always someone with her while she’s behind bars.” Wait so she has a roommate now too? And she’s got to wear a paper nightgown and sleep under paper sheets and the guards have to check on her constantly? Hm. The thing is, “they” probably don’t want Ghislaine to die by “suicide” like Jeffrey Epstein. It was hard enough to pull off Epstein’s death and keep it off-camera. They can’t follow the same playbook with Ghislaine. Which is why I kind of wonder if they’ll organize some kind of other scheme. Perhaps shanked by a fellow prisoner?
Also: did you see the conspiracy about how Ghislaine was secretly one of the most powerful Redditors of all time? If it was her, she went by u/MaxwellHill and she posted on Reddit for years and years. That user has not posted anything since the day before Ghislaine was arrested.
Photos courtesy of Getty, WENN.
If it happens, it’ll be Covid-19 or a previously undiagnosed medical condition. Or both.
“stroke” brought on by c-19
I was just thinking covid, too. I can’t imagine that they’d want it running roughshod over the entire prison population, so maybe stroke by poisoning but they’d say that she had previous asymptomatic covid and it caused a fatal stroke.
I bet on a Covid related death. It’s the new “I hanged myself in the cell when the camera’s were off and the guards were asleep” excuse.
That is the first thing I thought of as well
The I am surprised suicided ticket has been played
Surprised Covid death for the win Alex
Roommate? Fellow prisoner? I would have thought a female officer or rotating shift of officers in the same cell.
I work in a high secure psych hospital and exactly what you said is standard practice here. One or two people outside at all times. For obvious reasons staff don’t enter the room but if someone is being watched, then they really are being watched. the paper clothing is standard too. I think the “roommate” will be a prison officer.
“Eyeball watch” An officer literally staring at her at all times. The paper clothing and such is standard. As is removing all objects from the cell that could be used as a weapon, such as a pen or pencil
The roommate thing is concerning and odd. Inmates on eyeball watch are usually moved to a separate cell in the medical unit as they can often be disruptive and violent to others and medical staff and supplies are immediately available if the inmate does do something. It is also highly unusual for someone accused of the charges Maxwell faces to have a roommate at all. Inmates who are known as pedophiles, child traffickers, or involved in child porn are targets of other inmates and are usually separated from the general population for their own safety.. If that isn’t an officer posing as a “roommate” something isn’t right here.
Also concerning is the personnel from elsewhere being brought in to guard her. Why not the usual staff? I’m suspicious of anyone Barr sends to be near her.
I agree on Barr. Major red flag warning. Are the cameras secure and protected. How often is she allowed to see or conference with her attorney? And would the conferencing be secure?
I’m sure the roommate is a guard or other prison employee. If the point is to prevent a suicide, then it seems unfair to put that on another prisoner.
“The usual staff” sure didn’t keep Epstein alive. I think her roommate is probably an FBI agent, and that the feds are there not to assist but to prevent Barr or someone else from paying off overworked prison staff to knock her off. They went ahead and arrested her in spite of Barr, after all.
I found the cell mate thing interesting. I would have thought to keep someone safe in a prison cell that it would be better to be alone.
Especially when the person is charged with crimes involving the sex trafficking of children.
Anyone else think the cell mate killed her is going to be the official story? They can’t suicide her, it’s too obvious. So either another prisoner takes her out or it’s covid complications from a previously undiagnosed medical condition that becomes the official line.
@ ladykeller yup. It’ll be the room mate story for sure.
no mug shot?
We need to see the mugshot! We got Jeffreys after all.
If she really was u/maxwellhill then she can’t stand Trump.
@Truthiness, maybe her alias allowed her to vocalize how she felt in truth because to play the game with men like Trump, you cannot show what you really think of them.
That checks out. She has met him in person, remember!
What was she posting on reddit?
Seems this theory has already been debunked.
Kaiser, I so agree that they can’t use the same play book. Plus, I wonder if the big fish are worried it will be too blatant if she too dies. How about putting in some working cameras as well. And what would be icing on the cake is if she is killed, she has a plan to let it all come out and do her damage. Right before a big election. Now THAT Is what movies are made of.
Seraphina, when she first got arrested my husband and I had a discussion where at first we decided “they can’t kill her, it will be too obvious.” I hope that is true. But by the end of our convo, we had both decided that once she is dead and silent, they are “safe” and can deal with anything else that comes their way. What is harder to deal with, accusations of murdering a witness or her testimony? I just have very little hope for any justice but VERY much hope I am wrong.
I agree. The public can suspect and have conspiracy theories all they want, but if there’s no tangible proof, then so what. Either that, or they find a scapegoat, who then also dies while “attacking” a guard or while trying to escape police.
I thought it would be too obvious for Epstein to get knocked off in prison, and yet here we are.
although she makes me sick I would love to see her spill all of the info, drop the names, show receipts. everything. also like some above mentioned the roommate thing is super shady already. i hope they can speed this case and bring her to justice. what she does afterwards i don’t care. i just hate that her being alive and in jail is the only way her victims can have their voices heard. it’s so heartbreaking.
I am absolutely not a lawyer so I’m wondering if the safest thing she can do (if she is not suicidal) is spill as much as possible as soon as possible? Once the authorities have the info or enough to have concrete leads to follow then the imperative to silence her is undermined. This doesn’t preclude a punishment killing but, if I were her I would be singing like a canary ASAP.
I didn’t think about that. I was trying to figure out under what circumstances would she spill the tea, because I couldn’t imagine her doing so, but your theory makes sense.
as much as it pains me to say this. if i were her i’d spill as much as possible. she can get a deal (i know eu law we don’t have that). who’s to say she’d be safe after that but having the facts out is at least something and then they could chase others. i don’t want to see her getting away though but i also doubt that’s on the table anyway.i just wish the victims get their day in the court and info gets out.
Part of the problem is, that she has to negotiate her sentence. The feds want it to be as long as possible because she played such a huge part, so she may feel that she has to hold out. She has to weigh the risk of waiting for a better deal against the possibility of getting killed. I would be trying to crawl out of my skin if I were in her shoes.
@LemonyLips GM is not stupid. Especially after what happened to JE, I’m sure she has multiple copies of any photos/videos/lists/etc all stashed in different places/with different people having access, and if anything should happen to her, “suicide” or otherwise, those receipts will be immediately dropped. She has probably also subtly signaled to those who stand to lose the most from those receipts dropping that this will happen, and that they have no way of silencing her, even in death.
I’ve been hoping she has a dead man switch.
I don’t care if she lives or dies, but no way should the other rapists get to live anonymously.
We said the same thing about Epstein – that he had videos, black books, records, flight logs etc. Didn’t help him in the least.
24/7 live cam so we can all watch her.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Aang – having her watched 24/7 would be karma for Epstein and her having anyone in their homes on camera too. In Filthy Rich they said Epstein had cameras in every corner of every room of his homes and recorded people. Karma.
I’m glad she’s being watched 24/7. I hope it’s a living hell. It still won’t be a fraction of what she put those girls and young women through, all so she could apparently become Mrs Epstein. I also hope she goes for broke and releases all the information that could get her suicided if she doesn’t. I hope the whole hideous edifice comes crashing down. Perhaps then we can challenge existing power structures and strike out for a truly equal world. Because all the protesting we’re doing is only tinkering round the edges, while those who keep these structures are saying ‘aw, bless their hearts’. I’m mad as hell. Bring it all down.
I can’t help but think that if so many people didn’t tune out the world that we wouldn’t have quite the same mess we’re in. There is a system, but if people actually voted and paid attention, the system wouldn’t be what it is.
Even if we all voted (and all our votes were counted), there’s still the subject of money in politics that gives a few an outsized voice, but some stuff we *can* change.
@Betsy I see what you’re saying, but my faith in any kind of democratic system is broken.
Here in the UK we have a parliamentary rather than a representative democracy. We select the party with the manifesto we can live with the most (or those to which we’re most tribally attuned) and they then do the party’s bidding for the next five years. Our MPs can pick and choose their causes, and whether they choose to respond to us or not. Big donors get the most attention, as we’ve seen recently with the Jenrick case. I must confess that I don’t know precisely how congressional representation works in the States. Is it the same kind of deal? And how is the Electoral College still a thing, given the disparity of ballots cast and leaders elected?
I think that yes, you’re right, and voting is important; but we also have to work to tear the whole patriarchal, capitalist, robber baron system, the one that entrenches race and class and gender inequality, down. And these men and women in Maxwell’s circle are the ones who both perpetuate it and shore it up. And they benefit from it by excluding us. They’re attuned only to blatant self-interest, involved in businesses that destroy the environment (affecting the working classes, POCs and indigenous the most), ensure employment is a race to the bottom (affecting all those below a certain income threshold but particularly those mentioned above) and that healthcare and pharmaceuticals price most people out of existence. As well as entrenching sexism.
I really have gone off on a stream of consciousness tangent here, and I apologise – have been up for two days straight finishing my novel…
Democracy is an illusion. Bless our naïve hearts, indeed.
Whatever they have to do, just keep this woman alive. Though I won’t be surprised if all of a sudden she’s “contracted Covid-19”. Won’t be surprised at all…
Didn’t they say she has COVID-19? But they put her with a roommate?
And they rarely assign cellmates to those charged with crimes against kids. Because they tend to end up dead very quickly.
That was just a baseless rumour. I think because she’s such a high risk of suicide they’ve put her with a “watcher”, who may not necessarily be a prison inmate, in case she starts talking. Panic, lack of sleep, the threat of higher-ups getting to her, etc. Also, prison justice has a way of happening no matter how much security she’s under.
I say she’ll stay alive then end up missing just like her father!! I always felt that she’s more powerful than Epstein. She probably knew about his stash of video tapes and took it from him (which is why he didnt get any deals this time+got suicideded)
Suiciding her would be too obvious, but they could work around it by saying that she and Epstein had a suicide pact to kill themselves if they both got caught. Of course it would stink to high heaven, but so did Epstein “killing himself” with all cameras tapped out and both guards napping. But I think they will either have her murdered and say it was the cell mate (who will also be “shot and killed” by police after the inmate “grabbed an officer’s gun” during their arrest for the crime) or she will “die” from Covid-19 related “pneumonia”, “pulmonary embolism” or “stroke”.
Either way, I would be surprised if she makes it anywhere near a trial alive, but I am beginning to have almost zero hope that she will ever open the vault on Prince Andrew.
@PearlGrey I don’t agree, because Andrew is a very little fishie, incredibly unimportant in the grand scheme. He’s the youngest son of an elderly monarch who’s on her way out and too far down the line of succession to have any real impact. He’s an ageing, unintelligent, unattractive and unbelievably over-entitled former playboy whose wife is a profound embarrassment and whose former friends have deserted him. He has no actual power and never has (save when he’s been cutting shady deals, and Mumsie has always saved his bot-bot): a nonentity, a waste of oxygen and entitlement, really. I can easily see him being thrown to the wolves while the big, powerful culprits try to escape via the side door.
Her knowledge about Prince Andrew isn’t what endangers her. Her knowledge about the Barr and Trump families does.
Bingo!
And Clinton, Dershowitz, Bill Richardson, George Mitchell, Glenn Dubin, Les Wexner, the list probably goes on and on.
@pearl gray
“But I think they will either have her murdered and say it was the cell mate (who will also be “shot and killed” by police after the inmate “grabbed an officer’s gun” during their arrest for the crime)”
THIS. I posted the same theory down thread before I saw your post and I completely agree. I can’t think of a legit reason to suddenly give her a roommate.
I commented upthread, that it may be an FBI agent tasked with protecting her in a corrupt prison system. They arrested her in spite of Barr, so they have an interest in keeping her alive.
I’m interested in the reddit situation! What is that about?
You know what I’m confused about… what the hell is a “powerful” redditor?? It’s not like Instagram where you have influencers. It’s just anonymous internet folks posting crap.
I browsed the user’s history briefly and it seems like all they do is post links to news articles just about ever day.
I give her a week or two until covid finds her or Trump’s goons plan an accident in her empty cell.
I almost think she’s had a wire or been tapped or something ever since Epstein “died” and the authorities have been collecting evidence for months and months.
She won’t live but I agree that suiciding her is too obvious. It’s gotta be an image killing her.
Huh, you would have thought after the blowback over Epstein’s “suicide” that they wouldn’t be following the same obvious playbook. Of course, Barr and company are not exceptionally clever thinkers, either.
If they do change tack, I’m to call one of two possibilities – 1. new roomie suddenly has some kind of psychotic breakdown and fatally attacks her (and then possibly is killed by prison guards in self defense) or 2. As others have suggested, COVID suddenly sweeps through and she gets a bad and rapidly fatal case of it.
No matter what, I hope she was smart enough to give evidence to somebody they don’t know about so the deets can still come out id she dies/disappears.
I don’t think she cares if the details come out. The woman is clearly a sociopath that has been on board with this scheme for decades, she has ZERO vested interest in making sure details come out, names are named and evidence is presented unless it somehow benefits her.
I felt the same with Epstein – I think they probably did/do have evidence packaged away for monetary and blackmail purposes and perhaps for self preservation, but do I think it’s triggered to be exposed at her death? I don’t know that she has empathy for that.
She is so not the empathic type. If she squeals it will be out of spite, i.e. if I’m going down, I’m taking you with me.
The roommate thing is a huge red flag. I worked in psych where we often had Jail Holds, and suicide watch was always one on one with a professional. A one on one is literally pulling up a chair and sitting as close to them as they can sit safely, and literally keeping your eyeballs on them at all times. She should not have a roommate, that roommate is not only a potential weapon, but also a potential distraction for the person working the one on one. This is shady as hell and a set up for a murder or “accident”.
If I was working there and genuinely wanted to keep her safe, she would be isolated and on a two on one (with each guard being total strangers to each other and have passed financial background checks).
And it is extremely rare to pair any sexual predator of children, whether the person is on a suicide watch or not, with a roommate. Too many states have had to pay out large settlements when the roommate beats the predator to death.
Yeah this seemed weird to me too. I’m not an expert, not even close. That said I would expect someone this high profile and in need of constant security would be solo.
I wanna see her mug shot.
Many comments above are describing one-on-one suicide watches in a hospital, not a jail. Once in the jail, if someone is acutely trying to kill themselves they can be put in a “safety cell” (basically a stripped room) until the imminent danger has passed, but it is considered inhumane to keep them there any longer than absolutely necessary. Once removed from the safety cell, a general population inmate on high alert is almost always housed with a roommate, on the theory that the roommate will raise the alarm if the inmate tries anything. There is no such thing as one-on-one monitoring in a jail like what is described above (with the exception of jail hospital units which follow different regulations.)
However, lightpurple above is absolutely correct that high-profile inmates and/or inmates who’ve committed certain types of abhorrent crimes are almost always housed in protective custody (alone) for their own safety, i.e. to protect them from other inmates, not necessarily themselves. In this very unusual case I’m not sure which safety precaution trumps the other.
Thank you for your behind the scenes knowledge.
I feel like after Epstein, in HER case, they should be doing something extreme, even if it has never been done before. (though realize that is not how the world works)
In her case the idea that “the roommate will raise the alarm if the inmate tries anything” seems way too risky. As many have said, child rapists are often murdered by fellow inmates. Even if her room mate didn’t kill her, they could certainly sit by quietly and watch her kill herself. i am also wondering if the room mate has only paper clothes and paper sheets? If not, what is to stop them from saying “her room mate was a very heavy sleeper and GM took their sheets while they slept and hung herself”? I realize all us sane people think that they couldn’t possibly go for the same play they did with JE, but as I said above, as long as she is dead, they can deal with our suspicions. Her squealing is the ultimate end game that they want to avoid.
Her lawyers are arguing for bail, partly because of Covid-19. Yeah, like she’s going to stick around here if she gets out.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ghislaine-maxwell-should-be-released-jail-due-covid-19-her-n1233463
They (who ever ‘they’ all are) have to kill her. I mean, there’s no way that she won’t bargain and she could hurt a lot of privileged people.
Can’t they just give her some truth telling drug and force her to blurt out everything? I’m so sick of how these people can just clam up. Names on notebooks seem to not matter either. I just don’t get it.
There was a screenshot circulating social networks from the Daily Mail claiming that she was hospitalized because of Covid19, the screenshot was supposedly taken quickly as the note was uploaded by mistake. The entire article was dated July 11th 2020.
So I guess we’ll know by tomorrow. If it all becomes true, then I’ll start believing whatever crazy conspiracy theoty
Already on “suicide” watch? That was quick. I don’t think she wants to kill herself. Someone just wants to get that story/excuse out front nice and early.
I think you’re onto something there. Makes a lot of sense. Because she does not want to kill herself.
Why is she just sitting in a cell? The cops should be grilling about everything she knows before ‘something’ happens to her. Surely they can offer her a deal if she informs on enough high profile people. What are they waiting for? You got her, she’s there with the info, get cracking.
I’ll be pissed if she goes the way Epstein did without spilling the beans on some high profile pedos.
She will die. For sure. The entire system, from president downt to jailguard, is corrupt.
I was very confused reading the title…where I live fabric sheets are what we call dryer sheets…so took me a minute to figure out they werent keeping bounce sheets from her DUH
Boo hoo