Duchess Meghan: The Mail is dragging out their legal queries for their ‘exclusives’

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On Friday, it was revealed that the lawyers for the Mail on Sunday had hit the Duchess of Sussex with another round of queries, and she had responded to them in yet another legal filing. This is the fourth round of questions from the Mail’s lawyers, and Meghan and her team understand what’s happening: the Mail is using Meghan’s lawsuit to dig and create content for themselves. It’s not simply that the Mail cannot be a fair arbiter of what’s happening in the case where Meghan is suing them, it’s that they’re actively using her lawsuit to smear her further, using information gleaned from legal filings. Omid Scobie spoke to a source close to Meghan, who said that the Mail is “abusing the court process to use irrelevant personal details for ‘exclusives.’ A fourth request for additional evidence and clarification is unprecedented and has no legal necessity. [The Duchess] is not on trial, her friends are not on trial, the Duchess’s father is not on trial. The Mail on Sunday and its unlawful actions are.” Here’s what else happened:

Meghan used to be close to her father: She and Thomas Markle “had a very close father/daughter relationship throughout her childhood and remained close until he was targeted three years ago by intrusive UK tabloid media”. The statement also revealed that Meghan had been providing financial support to her father and had a “long-standing history of caring for her [his] health”. Meghan’s lawyer said she had been giving her father money after she embarked on a career as an actor on the US legal drama Suits. As the statement put it “she began making voluntary financial contributions to her father”.

When she stopped giving her father money: The documents from Meghan’s lawyers show she has been a dutiful daughter, concerned for her father’s health and wellbeing both medically and financially. She began aiding him financially in January 2014, after she become a successful actress on the television show Suits, and stopped in May 2018 when she married Prince Harry.

Thomas Markle did not pay for all of Meghan’s university education: “Mr. Markle did not pay for all of the Claimant’s college tuition. The Claimant’s mother also contributed toward her university costs. In addition, the Claimant received scholarships for academic achievement, which reduced the payable tuition fees,” the filing states. “The Claimant also undertook a work-study program whereby income she made from working on campus after class was applied directly to supplement and lower her tuition costs, thus personally contributing to her tuition as well.”

What Meghan really thinks about the Mail & their lawyers: “We believe the Mail is no longer using the litigation process for its defense and is fixated on trying to cause more harm through headline generation. It highlights the fact they are focused on dragging this process out, and are abusing the court process to use irrelevant personal details for ‘exclusives’ prior to trial in order to hide their unlawful actions and distract from the matter at the heart of this case.”

[From Elle & The Independent]

In the part of the statement about her father, Meghan said that she and Thomas had “a very close father/daughter relationship throughout her childhood and remained close until he was targeted three years ago by intrusive UK tabloid media.” Which I get as a legal argument, but also… it takes two to tango, and it’s not like everything that happened with Toxic Tom is solely the fault of an overzealous and racist media, although they definitely played a major role. I think Meghan has tried to tell herself that her dad would never choose to sell her out, that he’s a pathetic old man who was manipulated by ruthless individuals. I don’t believe that. I think he willfully chose to sell out Meghan over and over. I think he’s just a toxic, awful person and her marriage to Harry brought out the worst in him. It really is that simple.

As for the college costs… I never believed that Toxic Tom paid solely for Meghan’s education, despite what he claimed. And even if he did, who cares? Many divorced couples build that into their divorce agreements, that one parent will pay for their children’s education. Even if Thomas had paid for some or most of her college, she still doesn’t “owe” him anything.

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  1. Priscila says:

    Rationally, Meghan might know Thomas did what he did for gain, but emotionally, this narrative of hers is also true and she should be able to believe in this until a time comes and she is prepared to face the truth.

    Good on them to have finally lost patience and called it as it is.

  2. Emmitt says:

    He couldn’t have paid for all of her tuition. Northwestern is a very pricey school and he had filed for bankruptcy a few years before she enrolled there.

    • fluffy_bunny says:

      Maybe he had college accounts that were protected? Not sure how that works.

    • Züri says:

      You have to demonstrate financial need to qualify for work study. That generally requires filing a FAFSA, which documents each parent’s financial means, among other factors.

      • fluffy_bunny says:

        Would Meghan have had to provide her father’s info? I’m a little older than Meghan and only had to provide my custodial parent’s info.

      • JanetDR says:

        My ex paid child support throughout my children’s undergrad degrees, so I only needed my income + proof of the support payments to fill out their Fafsas. It would have been far better for me to have done it proportionally, but he would have pressured them into the cheapest possible option.

      • bettyrose says:

        We discussed this awhile ago on a thread about Meghan’s college costs. The work study could be “federal work study” which has very specific parental income implications, or it could have a been a school sponsored work study (the sort of thing a wealthy university like Northwestern can afford for supporting qualified students). In the second scenario, we don’t know what the qualifying documents would have been.

        In answer to fluffy_bunny’s question, for federal work study, you would have provided the tax information of the parent or parents claiming you as a dependent for tax purposes.

      • BarbN says:

        I work for a private art college in the Registrar’s/Student Records Office, and am in charge of hiring student workers to help us out each semester. We do require that they are eligible for work-study funds, and have completed the necessary FAFSA paperwork in our Financial Aid Office.
        However, I know that other departments at our college will hire student help without work-study eligibility, as they are able to pay the students directly from their departmental budget account without needing the additional federal funds.
        I imagine other colleges may have the latter option as well.

    • Lexa says:

      I think one of the articles I read on this specified that he had taken out a loan to pay for her tuition?

      It’s possible that her work study program went toward paying room and board (for example, when I worked as an RA I had my room fees covered through that work, but not food or part of my tuition), and Meghan is reasonably including room and board when she says “tuition.” I guess in a way they could both be technically right about this because Meghan, to her credit, worked to lower her overall cost of attending and it sounds like Thomas paid for the full remainder of what was owed.

      I feel like the Mail is trying to undermine her credibility/honesty with this the way her haters on Tumblr would–by claiming she lied by omission during her speech when she outlined the different ways she had paid for college. All she was doing in the speech was citing the relevant programs that helped get her overall cost of schooling down.

      • Yvette says:

        @Lexa … Parents can apply for a ‘Parent Plus Loan’ when their child applies for a student loan and Federal Financial Aid, which you must apply for in order to be considered for Work Study.

        Parents sometimes apply for a Federal ‘Parent Plus Loan’ when their child applies for a Federal Student Loan (because students also need a place to sleep and eat while in school) and because the parent is haveing trouble making ends meet because they’re supporting that child in college. If Meghan had student loans she’s most likely paid them off. And if Tom was in financial trouble, he may have taken out the loan to help himself.

        If Meghan took out any form of Federal Financial Aid, Toxic Tom didn’t solely support her education, she helped support herself because she had to repay that aid … at least, the loans (she may have repaid any Parent Plus Loans Toxic Tom received as well).

      • Lexa says:

        Gotcha, thanks for taking the time to explain that @Yvette!

  3. Noki says:

    I also think they are trying to bankrupt them, tying them into years of litigation,the Mail is a huge corporation that can afford to drag this,however this will cost alot of money for The Sussexes.

    • Prayer Warrior says:

      Happy to help…..

    • Still_Sarah says:

      @ Noki : I was a lawyer for twenty years and while the lawyers for The Mail may not seem ethical, they are doing the job they were hired to do which is to defend their despicable client with everything they’ve got. By bringing the lawsuit, MM inadvertently gave The Mail all the ammunition they wanted for endless future stories and they have no motivation to stop doing what they’re doing. Honestly, the only way out would be for MM to settle. It’s not fair but it’s true.

      • STRIPE says:

        That was my initial concern here too. If you want to give some less access to you, suing them is the last thing you should do because if you do, now they have a legal right to defend themselves and that includes discovery. I really like M&H and feel for them immensely, but this was a miscalculation IMO.

      • Mary says:

        So, @Still_Sarah, you think that the DM can then ask any irrelevant question they want? You were a lawyer?

      • Mumbles says:

        I can’t find a copy of the complaint on line, but the DM has the right to ask for any information concerning those allegations. If this were the US, the Sussexes could object to the question as irrelevant and require the Mail to go to the judge and demand an answer, and then it would be up to the judge. Not sure if that’s how it works in the UK.

        Also, the Sussexes have used this lawsuit as well to get information out. This is how we learned that the Palace didn’t defend Meghan.

      • Becks1 says:

        Well, we knew the palace didn’t defend Meghan, lol. But that direct information was in response to the MoS questions, so actually a perfect example of the Mail using these proceedings to generate headlines for their own profit.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        IMHO, It does not matter if the Sussexes win or lose the lawsuit as the “hate” media will continue to cover the Sussexes with all means they have and all they can make-up because of all the money the “hate” media is making.

      • Still_Sarah says:

        @ Mary : “So @ Still_Sarah, you think that the DM can ask any irrelevant question they want? You were a lawyer?”
        For starters, I am guessing that my three years of law school was three years more than you did. Ditto my 22 years of practicing law from 1992-2014. Sorry but you don’t have to insult me to make a comment about what I wrote.

        To answer your first question, the DM can ask any questions or ask for any information that they argue are related to the Sussexes’ lawsuit. The Sussexes can then answer or refuse to answer the question(s). If the DM is not happy with the Sussexes refusing to answer some questions, the DM’s lawyers can bring a motion for disclosure (asking the court to order the Sussexes to answer the question) and the court can make a decision and order M & H to answer and/or provide the information.. This also applies for the Sussexes who can ask the DM for information, have the DM agree or refuse and go to court to try to force the DM to answer the questions.

        If the DM and the Sussexes do not agree over the relevancy of a question or a request for information, then it is a matter for the court to decide. As for relevancy, the judge’s opinion – as always – is the only one that matters.

      • Madelaine says:

        Settling without putting up a fight?! What principle, what ideals are worth living for, then? The victims’ pain oftentimes makes it impossible for them to compromise with the defamation of their character. Settling might work from a lawyer’s or a diplomat’s perspective but victims are looking to settle scores, not to settle. Besides, if H& M’s grossly overpaid lawyer suggested settling instead of battling, why pay them at all as this alone would defeat the purpose.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        @mary yes the answer given by Still_Sarah is very indicative of someone with a law degree. What a nasty comment. The discovery process is intentionally set up to be expansive, you cannot be abusive, but each party is allowed to ask broad questions that may lead to admissible evidence.

  4. GuestWho says:

    Didn’t the judge work as an attorney for the Daily Mail when Charles sued them? She was never going to get a fair shot at this. So corrupt and infuriating.

  5. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    The Mail is absolutely evil. Avoid giving them clicks whenever you can.

  6. S808 says:

    She knows her dad better than I do but from where I’m standing, I don’t think he was manipulated by the media. I think he’s a narcissist who sold his daughter out over and over again simply because he wanted to. That may be hard to reckon with so maybe it’s easier to believe he was manipulated. I also think he has a lot of issues around Harry but that theory is half baked. MOS know they don’t have a defense and is trying milk the case for as much money as possible.

    • kelleybelle says:

      Agree. He certainly participated willingly, didn’t he? Money was involved, and a lot of it. He also knew full well when she became pregnant and piled on the abuse. The press put the words in his mouth and paid him to parrot them. They didn’t hold a gun to his head. They also did not force him to sell a shit-tonne of her childhood pictures. All Doria said was “Please respect that I have no comments to make.” Sr. could’ve done the same. The press did trap him initially with the “I can change your image” with full intention of exposing him.” They also paid him to stay away from the wedding. But he could have told them no, and he did not. The man is an abusive, greedy shit-heap. That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it.

    • Amy Too says:

      Maybe she knows he’s a narcissist but she also knows that he’s lazy and/or stupid, so he wouldn’t have sought out the press to sell her out and embiggen himself on his own, but when the press approached him, he couldn’t help himself. The Mail made him go from narcissistic in private yet still manageable to narcissistic in public and out of control.

      He didn’t start selling her out or talking to the press until they approached him to do his pap shoots pre-wedding. He didn’t say much before then or seek out the media on his own or tell tales/post photos on his own social media.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        I dunno – there is that pap he was working with BEFORE the Mail sunk their hooks into him.

        Rumour is he was causing all sort of trouble leading up to the wedding – demanding to make a speech at the ceremony, asking to bring an entourage and the RF to pay for it. Etc..

        I think he decided to work with the press to mainly try and manipulate her into giving into his demands about the wedding and it blew up in his face. I don’t think it was initially really about the money – it has always been about control and attention. He had no control over her and the wedding so acted out to get what HE wanted.

      • bettyrose says:

        I don’t get the feeling Thomas is stupid. Narcissists are terrible at applying critical thought to their own relationships (i.e. If I treat this person like crap, they will cut off contact with me) but it’s hard to imagine that Dora married or Meghan was raised by someone who wasn’t articulate and interesting.

        We don’t really know the timeline of Thomas selling her out, but if it did start with the tabs approaching him, my guess is that things were already going south in their relationship, he felt out of control, and used this opportunity to regain control of the narrative (and get paid, of course). Doesn’t mean he was manipulated (narcissists are also experts at claiming victimhood).

    • Tealie says:

      Yeah i think that is just wishful thinking by Meghan and a testement to her kindhearted innocence and good will. Many people struggle to come to terms with their emotionally abusive parents, however one day she will wake up and realise it was the right thing to do.

  7. Abena Asantewaa says:

    @ Noki, the mail can’y bankrupt The Sussexes, the court will decide the date, whoever looses, pays for both court cost. The mail has noo intention of going to court, they will settle out of court, because they know they will loose, that is why they have chosen this part. I hope the judge will take all this into consideration, because frankly, this is bullying, and unfair advantage. Yet I firmly believe Meghan will be victorious.

  8. WilliamJoelene says:

    I feel awfully for MM. Because MM brought the action, she cant withdraw, or she’ll have to pay the Mails costs. MoS can say/ask anything they want, and they’re going for it! :( What if they call Jessica Mulroney? I think MM and Harry were poorly advised, going ahead with this. Better to write an op-ed in a decent newspaper, showcasing their message. I genuinely fear for them. Respectfully and I think we all know she’s expecting, imagine being pregnant and dealing with this?

    • VS says:

      I hope MM doesn’t ever listen to advice like yours…..because of people like you, bullying continues! if there were only people like you in this world, nothing would have ever changed because it is best to do nothing and run away from the fight. I recommend you listen to John Lewis although I doubt it will change anything……….Meg was right to sue them; they will drag, they will write headlines but they will lose!

      • Mumbles says:

        And yet the bullying continues anyway, lawsuit or no lawsuit.

        The legal strategy always puzzled me. It wasn’t a slander or libel suit, it was a copyright suit. A slander or libel lawsuit might have scared off the Mail from reporting on them, because it would have shown if the paper published false stories, the Sussexes weren’t scared to go after them. But a copyright suit is more cut-and-dry, and only disincentivizes the Mail from publishing letters like that in the future. Lesson learned, the Mail writes a check, and they continue to cover the Sussexes in the way they have been doing. I just don’t get what the end game was for this lawsuit for the Sussexes. Their decision to drop out of the Royal Rota coverage was far more effective for what I think they were trying to do.

      • STRIPE says:

        @VS, I don’t think WJ is saying they should never stand up for themselves, of course they should! It’s just seeming like this was maybe not the best strategy to do so, and we can see why right in this article. Now they have opened themselves up to discovery to which the Mail has a legal right – not saying they are acting morally right, if the M&H sources quoted here are correct. But they have the right to dig in now, even more then they did before, because she sued them.

        Even if M&H win, the DM will write a check or take down the letter and continue doing what they’re doing anyway, per Mumbles point. In the meantime they have received a ton of mileage out of this. It’s a win-win for the DM even if they lose. Is it fair? No of course not. But it’s the reality of the situation, sadly.

        Sometimes the best thing you can do to a bully is totally disengage, IMO. Win by depriving them of your oxygen.

      • VS says:

        @STRIPE…. I do not agree; she has been able to correct some of the inaccuracies royal gossiper rats have written about her! How the RF still work with those people, someone would have to explain that to me! because I don’t get it! There are more respectable newspapers in the uk; why work with Trash?

        yes, they have been able to write stories after stories; they make money because people CLICK on their trash! they complain how trashy they are but they still click anyway…….I guess algorithms should be taught in HS. If you complain about something and still click on their story, who really is the fool?

        Anyway, they will milk it but they will pay at the end; that money I am pretty sure would not be touched by Meghan; it should be given to anti-bullying organizations

    • kelleybelle says:

      The MoS is on trial, not Jessica M. She has nothing to do with this, nothing. And if anything Meghan would do everything possible to not involve her friends. Hell, Sr. isn’t even on trial but we might hear from him just the same. I just hope not.

    • Islandgirl says:

      @WJ….Please…..how can this compare with being pregnant and having vile stories in the press daily…more than once a day. Further, knowing that the people you are supposed to trust are the ones leaking the stories.
      Whether this was a wise move or not is still to be determined but I can say that Harry and Meghan have been able to deal with many lies published by the Mail.

    • Tealie says:

      This feels like a troll comment

  9. kelleybelle says:

    Please, PLEASE try and spare us pictures of this horrible, greasy miscreant. He is the most repulsive thing I’ve ever seen. He only has two loves: himself and his bank account.

  10. Belli says:

    For the Mail, it isn’t about winning the law suit. It’s about continuing the smear campaign, winning in the court of public opinion and making money off Meghan now they no longer have access.

    If they can make a load of money and convince a load of people that Meghan is evil, they won’t care if the judge rules in her favour.

  11. Gina says:

    I don’t know how things are done in England but this seems to be a normal part of the discovery process. Even though the plaintiff is “not on trial” the defendants still get the ask questions about their claims in order to prepare a proper defense, even into subjects they may find irrelevant. That’s a risk of bringing suit.

    • Stephanie says:

      Interrogatories are normal part of discovery yes. But the fact that they then turn around the answers and publish them as exclusives in their newspaper is just so wrong on so many levels. I can’t believe a judge is allowing them to do so.

      • Nic919 says:

        This is what I am wondering. Normally interrogatories are a back and forth between counsel and you go to court if someone is refusing to answer. Right now it seems like everything is being published.

  12. Ginger says:

    I always found it interesting that Thomas was quite while Harry and Meghan were dating and even engaged. It was right before the wedding when he became awful. The royal family and press must have made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

    • WilliamJoelene says:

      I read Harry has never met Thomas. Possibly indicates a lack of closeness prior to the wedding? I always found that part strange.

      • GuestWho says:

        It really isn’t that unusual for Harry and her dad not to have met. i recall reading that he was supposed to go on the same trip that Doria did when she met Harry, but he backed out.

        They are busy adults (H&M) living on a different continent, with extraordinary security concerns. They were never going to just pop down to Mexico to meet terrible Tom. He had his chance to meet Harry in person, and he blew it off.

    • kelleybelle says:

      The press deliberately trapped him with the “I can change your image” with full intention of exposing him just before the wedding to humiliate Meghan in an attempt to stop the wedding. Sr. just kept going with the abuse because they were paying him to do it. Harry probably had no interest in meeting the man.

    • Mary says:

      @ginger, Thomas wasn’t quiet before the wedding and he was already using people as mouthpieces to the press. E.g , his “diplomat” brother started giving interviews shortly after the engagement.

  13. Mariane says:

    Its heartbreaking to see Meghan still protecting that manipulative drunk. He sold her out for quick cash then proceeded to attack her and her husband, tormenting in her fragile time whilst on first pregnancy.

    He is a abuser and seeing how little we’ve seen her with Tom vs how her mother was accompanying her to UN events and holidays. It’s clear there was some distance prior to all this and instead of resolving it he chose to profit from abusing her.
    The court documents also highlight how she tried to get him to fly to London and he refused. Basically just like what he did during the 2017 invictus games event in Canada which her friends then attended after he bailed on her.

    • Ginger says:

      I had no idea he was supposed to be at the Invictus Games in Toronto. That’s interesting.

  14. Molly says:

    For real? The Daily Mail is doing exactly what everyone knew they would do?

    The Sussexes are using this suit to get their own corrections out there as well. Both sides have been messy but the Sussexes are David-level messy to the Daily Mail being a Goliath of messiness.

    Fighting the Daily Mail on publishing her letter is a valid and good fight. Getting out the facts like how the KP press team acted is making lemonade out of lemons. Maybe all this will stop in a Paul Burrell trial kind of way if the BRF thinks they may be too exposed.

  15. Laalaa says:

    On the other hand, it’s pretty clear that Meghan really worked for her life, at every point of it. Nice to see it written down.

    • smlstrs says:

      I agree, and I think this is why they decided on this strategy and are pursuing it through the situation’s challenges: little by little information like this, lack of palace support, etc., is being added to the record in a formal, official way.

      Reminds me of the careful, thoughtful text messages that have come out. People here have often described Meghan as a planner and I agree, I think she’s conscious of carefully documenting things and forming a record, and I agree with people who say that can come from growing up with a parent like her father and needing to be able to keep track of the truth for herself and others. I think she’s putting it to good use here.

      They’re building their case not just for this lawsuit or current public opinion but documenting it carefully and officially for the future, whether it’s for protecting themselves if the BRF tries to pressure them or just making an impartial record for Archie to read as he grows up and tries to understand the dynamics of the family he was born into.

      Say Archie has questions and she wants him to know what happened without putting him at risk with the sketchy relatives on both sides or without trash talking – she can point him to the record they’re building here.

  16. Madelaine says:

    I’m drawn to assume that Thomas Markle has that very Jane-Austen like Victorian mindset that one’s daughter’s nuptials ought to not only secure the entire family’s well-being but bring the bride’s father a substantial dowry as a reward for his investment in the upbringing. In his lopsided rationale, Meghan was but an asset to be displayed to world (isn’t that what he did every time he brought her on his movie set?) and benefited from as soon as a well-to-do husband was to marry her.

    Since Markle senior did not get the dowry he was relying on as backpayment for his calculated investment, he set about selling out his daughter to every media temptation: in his old school third-worldly mindset, there was nothing reprehensible, and Henry is the one at fault for plundering a Markle treasure without granting a dime. Therefore, no doubt the old fart regards himself a the victim of some English conspiracy and keeps whining and grunting like a wounded boar at every interview. Interestingly, Markle senior’s narrow-minded sense of entitlement can’t bring him to the realization that the financial gyp he’s convinced he has fall prey to, is a minor offence in comparison to his breach of loyalty.

    • Enny says:

      Please don’t use the word “gyp.”

      I can’t believe in 2020 people have to be educated that this is a derogatory term for people not even remotely involved in this conversation.

      • Jules says:

        Agreed. But often people truly do not know the origins of words and the weight they carry.

      • SomeChick says:

        Thank you for mentioning this. I’d been debating speaking up about it myself. “Ripoff” is a great substitute.

        While I’m up, the origin of “rule of thumb” was from an old law that said a man could only beat his wife with a stick no thicker than his thumb. Yes, really. So I’ve dropped that from my vocabulary too.

      • Madelaine says:

        @Enny: Oops! Can I be forgiven if I say that I am a native French speaker commenting from France? English is a completely foreign language that I’ve worked hard to master but as you can see… So could you please elaborate a little bit as to why ‘gyp’ is considered derogatory, thanks.

      • Imogene says:

        @Madelaine – it comes from the word “gypsy” and is used due to the negative stereotype that “gypsies” will steal and cheat you out of something.

    • Mumbles says:

      I thought dowries were paid by the bride’s family to the groom’s?

      • Madelaine says:

        @Mumbles: As far as I know, a dowry is traditionally gifted by the bride in today’s India (to be confirmed by insiders or more knowledgeable people), as it used to be in the Western world until the devastations and losses of World War I brought all social classes to a consensus: the sanctity of human life was to be valued over money. Yet in muslim cultures, it is the groom who’s expected to bring a dowry as tribute to his bride (to be verified).
        In every case, Thomas Markle was expecting to be compensated, hence his outrageous attacks on Harry.

      • Madelaine says:

        @Imogene: Oh, thank you. Now that I know how offensive it is, I’ll just spare myself the embarrassment of ever using it again.

  17. aquarius64 says:

    The Fail normally put the court filings of the case in the rag. The response was filed Friday; however, DM has not reported on this. Toxic Tom and the Other Daughter have gone on record that he paid 100% of the tuition. If Meghan’s lawyers produce documents from Northwestern to back up her claim the Fail’s star witness has been discredited. (I bet Bad Dad told the DM lawyers he got the loan to pay for all of Northwestern.) The lack of reporting this in the British tabloids may indicate exposure to a defamation suit. DM may settle to save face and money and claim the Markles lied to them.

  18. Becks1 says:

    I wish the judge would put a gag order on this for the MoS – saying that they cant report on it, because the Sussexes are right, they are completely dragging this out to get as many quotes and as much “insider info” as possible.

    To be honest I think the someone in the BRF is going to call the Mail and tell them to settle soon, because the more info that comes out, the worse the BRF looks.

  19. aquarius64 says:

    Remember the story that TT is trying to reach Meghan? IF true I still think Dad is afraid all his dirty laundry will be exposed at trial.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      I wouldn’t be surprised he if never even stopped – he is desperate for something new to sell to his paymasters who have him by the balls. They know he was lying about his heart attack and they will out him for it.

      Toxic Tom knows his relationship with Meghan is over, he has proven he cannot be trusted in any way – he knows it and he is a man who is acting desperate as he has nothing to lose. For him its now a case of doing the Fails bidding to stop them from exposing him and his lies around his ‘heart attack’. Thomas was being very difficult before he started working with the press – he made outrageous demands and was expecting to be treated better than TQ herself.

  20. Cate says:

    My dad is also a controlling and abusive narcissist. We had a terrible relationship in my teens, but things did “settle down” and we had a better relationship in my twenties. Then I met my future husband and my dad’s controlling and hostile behavior went into overdrive, trying to force my husband under his thumb. Ultimately I had to cut my father off. So I can believe Meghan’s storyline here, that they had a good relationship and then they didn’t. My guess is TM was feeling miffed about Meghan and Harry in some way (Likely TM had some unreasonable expectations that were not being met because, unreasonable) and was therefore ripe to be targeted. Obviously I’m not on the same level as M&H but my father has also been quietly smearing my husband and I to other family members whenever the opportunity arises. TM’s behavior is the same but on a much larger scale.

  21. Mariane says:

    @BECKS1 the mail was practically begging Meghan to settle months ago by having their reporters write about how itll humiliate Meghan and how she’s suing her father!! When that didnt work they went with threats to expose her friends/witnesses and make their life living hell!
    Meghan sent a clear message when she cleverly added a clause which makes it possible for the fail to pay up to 2.4million in fines(doesnt include compensation/damages). Plus it’s very unlikely they’ll settle now after all they went through+harry said theyll donate the m8ney to anti bullying charity when they win. Thankfully the Sussexs have enough money to fight them

  22. Charfromdarock says:

    It can’t be easy for Meghan to fully accept her own father would willing participate in abusing her.

    I don’t understand why things revealed in discovery aren’t protected at this stage and allowed to be published.

  23. A says:

    ” I think Meghan has tried to tell herself that her dad would never choose to sell her out, that he’s a pathetic old man who was manipulated by ruthless individuals.”

    I don’t think she’s under any delusions as far as her father is concerned. I do think she’s trying to protect him, not because she thinks he won’t betray her, but rather because she doesn’t want to give the press any more fodder regarding their relationship.

    I don’t know how Meghan feels about her father right now, but I do think that the allegations about how she doesn’t care for him, or that she dumped him by the wayside after marrying Prince Harry, hurt her a lot. It’s possible to think that your father is a scumbag and still feel bad for him or still care for him on some level, which is what I think she’s doing. She might think that he wasn’t a very good person in this instance, but he still doesn’t deserve this sh-t, and neither does she.

    If she took an overly angry tack with this man, the press would probably just keep going about how it’s proof that Meghan doesn’t care about her family, that she’s heartless and cruel, etc. This helps prevent that as well.

  24. February-Pisces says:

    If anyone wants any understanding what may have happened to Thomas markle, just look on byline investigates where they have a story on James Hewitt and his ex gf. After Diana died Hewitt has a GF, and the mirror basically staged some photos on the street or something with Hewitt and a female Mirror reporter to make it look they were out together. They then showed these ‘staged’ pics to Hewitt GF to convince her he was cheating, when he wasn’t. They then manipulated her so much, they managed to convince her to stage a robbery at Hewitts house, to steal private love letters from Diana to Hewitt. This was 1998, just A few months after her death. They kept tabs on the GF and had one do their reporters staying with her at all times, basically babying her, and making sure she did what they wanted. The GF did steal the letters from Hewitt pretty much robbing Diana’s grave only a few months after her death. They made the GF believe that they were on her side, and hewitt was the bad guy for cheating on her. Oh and the editor of the Mirror at the time…….Piers Morgan.

    Just an insight into how the British media are master manipulators and have no problem ruining relationships for a good story.

  25. Linda says:

    Labeling her father a narcissist just gives him an excuse to be a bad Dad. He is typical of Hollywood people trying to cash in any way he can. It didn’t work. The man is an idiot but doesn’t need a reason. He just is.