Kanye West cried about abortion during a manic ‘campaign stop’ in South Carolina

Kanye West and his family attend the Greater Allen AME Cathedral of New York for his Sunday service

Kanye West’s name will not appear on the 2020 ballot in Florida, North Carolina, Texas, New Mexico, Indiana, Nevada, Michigan, Delaware or South Carolina. He did manage to get his name on the Oklahoma ballot though. So… his presidential campaign is alive or something. And because mental illness is not a joke and neither is megalomania, Kanye appeared in South Carolina yesterday evening for a “campaign rally.” This rally was possibly indoors. Kanye wore what looked like a military kevlar vest reading “security” and he claimed Harriet Tubman didn’t really free the slaves and that he “almost killed his daughter” through… Plan B or abortion. He also said he would be at peace if Kim divorced him because they brought North West into the world.

Here’s where he started crying about abortion. Please remember that this kind of sh-t is actually not that different than the anti-choice testimonials, most of which are basically “I almost had an abortion or I was around someone who almost had an abortion, therefore abortion should be illegal.” Also: Kanye is not well.

And here’s Kanye saying “Harriet Tubman never actually freed the slaves, she just had the slaves work for other white people.” The woman filming it was like “I’m out!”

“He just ain’t it.”

Kanye West and his family attend the Greater Allen AME Cathedral of New York for his Sunday service

Photos courtesy of Backgrid.

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  1. Smiles says:

    I have been waiting for this post since I read about this last night. *sigh* Oh Kanye…

    • DeniseMich says:

      Kim should divorce him. I think he would be better off. He has been on a downward spiral since their relationship began.

      • Scollins says:

        There still money to be made, more press before they are through with him. He’s sick and they are ghouls cashing in.

      • Angel says:

        Disagree, because at the end of the day even if she divorces him, he is still the father of her kids and those kids need their father and they need him at an healthy place. She needs to make the decisions for him because clearly he can’t do it for himself. She needs to call an ambulance and to get him in an HP just like the last time.

      • josephine says:

        @Angel – I think very few people believe that she or anyone in that family would make decisions that favor him.

      • WigletWatcher says:

        Kanye has been on a downward spiral before kim. He’s unwell and just hiding it less. Let not blame others for preexisting mental illness.
        Don’t they live separately and have for some time?

      • Bunny says:

        She’s not responsible for his mental health. She’s responsible for her kids, and if I were in her position, I’d stay married to him. Not out of love, but because Kanye has enough money to sidestep any mental health treatment he doesn’t want. He won’t be committed if he doesn’t want to be. He won’t be treated against his will.

        In the absence of treatment, all she can do is stay connected and monitor his access to the children.

      • Princess Caroline says:

        No…his downward spiral began when his mom died.

    • jbyrdku says:

      Same. I actually feel bad for Kim. That’s not okay.

      • Angel says:

        @Josephine She doesn’t even realize it could affect her kids. My sister in law knows someone who is bipolar that sadly killed his kid during a manic episode. I will never understand that woman. There is something called forced hospitalization in France for this type of situations and I am sure it also exist in the US.

      • roo says:

        Came here to say the same thing. For the first time ever I think, I feel bad for Kim and feel even worse for the kids.

      • ChillyWilly says:

        Angel, it’s not the same in the US. A person can be put on a 3 day psych hold if they are a physical danger to themselves or others. It’s nearly impossible for a family member to commit someone to an institution here. We have a very pitiful mental health response in America especially if you are poor.
        Obviously KKW has the funds to get Kanye inpatient care but unless he attempts suicide or makes threats to others, there is no way to force him to get help.

      • Laura says:

        It is extremely difficult to force an adult into a hospital or to take medication – and rightly so as when it was easier, the system was abused often at the expense of women. If you do manage to “commit” someone, it’s generally only for a few days, which wouldn’t be enough time to make a difference for Kanye. Conservatorships and similar are a lengthy legal process.

        That said, he is not safe to be around. And the people running and otherwise supporting his “candidacy” are taking advantage of a mentally ill person, and there may be legal ways to address this. I hope Kim is trying to do something about that part of the problem.

      • minx says:

        I don’t feel sorry for Kim, the K clan look out for themselves. She hasn’t filed for divorce so he must still be of some use to her.

    • AnnaKist says:

      Same here, Smiles. They reported this at 5am, my time, and have repeated it all day. We’ve been discussing his mental unwellness for years on this site. Now the world knows. I cannot stand this loudmouthed, narcissistic fraud, but he needs help. Someone close to him needs to step up and get help for him.

    • Tanya says:

      She should divorce him, but I’m sure she’ll want documentation for full custody. California is 50/50 by default, and you need a very good case to change that.

      • Swack says:

        Just because it’s 50/50 doesn’t mean one or the other parent will rarely take them for their 50%. The way Kanye takes off to be alone makes me think he won’t have them 50% of the time anyway. My daughter is going thru a divorce right now and her soon to be ex wants 50/50 but only wants them when is convenient for him. Gets pissed if he doesn’t get his way (there is not a custody plan in place just yet). He’s a narcissist like Kanye.

    • Lisa says:

      Oh dear god! please tell me that he doesnt end up being the ross perot of this election and fucking getting trump reelected!

  2. Katie_44 says:

    Honestly who in his party is letting him go out on the road like this? I feel sad that he doesn’t have people around him who can keep him from going out and making himself look like a fool.

    • Lexilla says:

      He is ill. The real fools are the ones who will vote for him. I cringe when I think of how many that might actually be.

      • BlueSky says:

        I cringe at these people who come to see him for the spectacle and then get all offended when he says something incredibly dumb.

        This is a cry for help. He has no one around him bold enough to tell him that. He has enablers and his enablers are on his payroll. He doesn’t have the friends he really needs. I’m tired of the “oh it’s Kanye just being Kanye” I feel people hide behind that because no one wants to address what is really going on. I do feel sorry for his children. He just seems exhausting to be around.

      • Adrianna says:

        Well that’s the thing, anyone can get in, no matter their past or personality. Flamboyancy is a plus. I still think though he’s doing this as a favor to his buddy and will pull out before the election, telling his voters who they should vote for instead. As for Kim, her x-rated video will be making the rounds again, perhaps now for a younger generation.

    • Arpeggi says:

      I doubt he has an actual staff, his entourage just let him do whatever he wants. He should be hospitalized, it doesn’t have to be like this.

    • Lea says:

      That’s the problem with rich people – they are surrounded by Yes-people who depend on them financially and lifestyle-wise so they constantly walk on eggshells.
      The only one who could give him some tough love would be his wife because she literally has nothing to lose, but for some reason she doesn’t.

      • Katie_44 says:

        Yeah I don’t get how Kim or anyone in that family who love and care about him can watch him do this, especially in public? You would think if anything, vanity would want them to keep him home and get him better? Or is this honestly “good press” and a “good story line” for them?

      • Tifffany :) says:

        You’re right. A person’s employees are not responsible for making sure they get medical attention. Yes, it would great if they could do that, but these kinds of huge decisions should be made by the family. Even friends of the family can only do so much. The responsibility falls on a narrow group of people.

        Maybe they are doing what they can behind the scenes. I know it can be very hard to get mental health care to people that need it.

      • Heather says:

        Really, we don’t know how much she has or hasn’t done for him. Tough love can only work for so long, but narcissists adapt themselves to overcome and overlook that.
        My brother was mentally ill; (sociopathic narcissism and bi-polar disorder), and lived in my in-law apartment for 3 years. He made several attempts to kill himself and even threatened to hang himself in such a way that his body would hit me in the face when I went to check on him.
        He was evaluated numerous times and all we were told was that he didn’t fit the criteria to be institutionalized against his will. He refused to take his meds, or would start taking them, and then stop cold turkey. Still, I continued to take care of him as best as I could. It became a horrible strain on my family and my own mental health.
        Eventually, I had to make a choice to throw him out. To anyone outside of the situation, I seemed like a cold-hearted witch…even though no one else in the family would agree to take him.
        All of this is to say: Regardless of what Kim or the entire K-clan may be, it’s not fair to lay blame on her for “not doing enough” for Kanye or to suggest that she can fix him or change him.
        Kanye is going to “Kanye” until he can’t “Kanye” anymore.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      ‘ who in his party is letting him go out on the road like this? ”

      Unless you strip him of his rights to spend his own money, there is really no one that can stop him. If employees or friends or family try to stop him, they will probably be removed from the inner circle and replaced with people who will enable him.

      • Lea says:

        It’s crazy for me to imagine that someone in the midst of a huge bipolar episode can start a presidential campaign without anyone being able to do anything to stop it.
        For once I feel sorry for Kim because this is such a personal thing he chose to share with the world without her consent. And poor North probably didn’t need to hear about it either.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        As a country, we are way over due for a realignment of where the “lines” are when it comes to mental health. I had a friend in college who had a serious mental health issue, and we were told we couldn’t do anything unless she attempted to hurt herself or someone else. I think this kind of set up leads to a lot of dangerous situations, both for the person struggling with mental issues and those around them (their families, the public, etc.). It leads to a lot of violent confrontations with law enforcement.

        At the same time, we can’t arbitrarily take away people’s rights. In the past, a woman being promiscuous, or a person being gay, or a person just being unconventional could lead to their institution. That isn’t acceptable or just, either.

        I don’t know where the line needs to be drawn exactly, I just know that where it is now is failing a lot of people. Where it used to be also hurt a lot of people.

  3. Noki says:

    Once the Kardashians have enough of you they run to TMZ and drag your name through the gutter,they wont even need to try and turn on Kanye. Something tells me that they got the wrong one this time and probably nervous,Kanye will not go down like the usual Kardashian men.

    • Scollins says:

      In the meantime, before they throw him on the garbage heap penniless, you just know all the Ks are excited for their new season theme, mental illness.

    • Lolo86lf says:

      It appears Kim is really committed to Kanye and only if he really screws up will she abandon him. I mean she had two kids with him. Everything crazy Kanye does is just free propaganda for their brand.

  4. Scollins says:

    Deeply disturbing. He’s not fit to run for president, he’s not fit to to run down the driveway by himself.
    But then trump was elected so what the hell do I know.

  5. Ohok says:

    This is disturbing on so many levels.

  6. Daisyfly says:

    He needs help, but no one wants to put in the work. That’s why his family supports everything he does. We’re watching him spiral right before our eyes and the people capable of helping him…aren’t.

    He has my pity.

    • Angel says:

      Right ? She is really out here RT his presidential tweet on Twitter. I don’t know what the hell is wrong with her. She is doing this cause she wants people to feel sorry for her when she eventually files for divorce.

    • Betsy says:

      Mine too. I disagree with all his opinions (abortion is my hot button issue, and I take his claims about Harriet Tubman personally for some reason), but that is not a well man. Why won’t someone help him?

    • FHMom says:

      He has my sympathy, also. I realize he is an adult, but he is clearly in need of help. And can I also point out how risky this is in terms of Covid. Why is he even allowed to be speaking before a crowd of people? His mother must be crying.

  7. AmyB says:

    This is so deeply disturbing on many levels. He is very ill and needs help and I cannot understand for the life of me why the people in his life just simply enable him to do things like this. Also, can you imagine being North and hearing this S**H at some later date???


    He needs therapy and needs to be medicated for his bipolar disorder ASAP!

    • Lightpurple says:

      The only time this man ever got the medical attention he needed was when he was on tour, away from that family, and his tour management intervened and had him hospitalized for observation.

  8. Jessica says:

    Wow. He is really in need of some treatment and medication. This man is not well. I hope he gets the help he so obviously needs, soon.

    • Scollins says:

      Sometimes people in that state of mind end up wanting to be dead instead of living in more pain. We just have to hope he gets help before he might feel like that.

  9. Cocococococo says:

    I hope he gets the help he needs.

    His management team and family are failing him

  10. Swack says:

    Read he’s on the Oklahoma ballot because he paid $35,000 to get on it. His rally was partially to get signatures to get him on the South Carolina ballot and had to be done by today. So hoping people realize he is not mentally fit for the job.

  11. bub244 says:

    This man is deeply unwell and is being exploited by those around him. He is very vulnerable right now and regardless of the abhorrent content of his words I am genuinely worried for him. If one of my patients was behaving like this I would be getting him sectioned.

  12. Darla says:

    Kayne is a narcissistic fool performing for the cameras. I almost killed my baby! Oh Lord, I almost killed my babbby!

    Mr. DeMille, Oh Mr. Demille, I’m ready for closeup!

    Give me a break. Too much sympathy for this fool around here.

    • Lolo86lf says:

      Your point of view sounds a bit harsh but I kind of believe it too. Could he be doing this just to get attention?

    • Caty Page says:

      Controversial opinion and I agree. Trump is this deranged and also clearly suffers from mental illness. Our sympathies for both should be found wanting when they are actively trying to destroy a democracy.

    • Melissa says:

      @ Darla — I am on the same train of thought. Didn’t he just sign a huge deal with Gap for a budget Yeezy line? He’s still producing music, he is still throwing out his garbage apocalypse designer crap etc. The whole inspirational church tour thing seems to have died out after he made a killing on appearances, apparel etc.

      Granted, I am cynical about all things Kardashian, but it is hard to reconcile the business moves and ever evolving cash streams with ‘gravely disabled’.

    • minx says:

      Thank you, I agree.

    • Joanna says:

      HAHAHA you nailed it Darla!

    • Ocean Girl says:

      Yeah, and this has apparently made him a useful tool for the “pro-life” people. I’ve already seen the posts on facebook.

  13. Miranda says:

    For the first and, I have to imagine, last time…I actually kinda feel bad for Kim. Supposing that he’s even telling the truth, and she did want to get an abortion, it’s pretty f***ing vile to announce that to the world and make it out to be a totally selfish decision on her part. Nevermind that she’s already got enough on her hands, trying to raise her jackass husband in addition to their kids. Throwing her under the bus like this could also be dangerous. There are many, many forced-birthers out there who would LOVE to extend their clinic bombings, shootings, and general harassment to the women seeking those services as well as the providers.

    • ME says:

      If I remember correctly didn’t Kim say she stopped her birth control so that she could see if she could get pregnant? She even mentioned fertility issues. It would seem bizarre to even consider abortion if you actively were trying to get pregnant. I don’t know, this whole family lies a lot so who knows what the truth is…

      • JennyJazzhands says:

        I always took it as she was actively trying to get pregnant, he wasn’t. She was still married to kris and creeping around with kanye when north was conceived. Kanye was always Kim’s backup plan should the public turn in her.
        So, what he’s saying does not surprise me in the least. Before kim, kanye was making fun of people who pay child support when “abortion is much cheaper”.

  14. Nev says:

    Bipolar is serious. Someone help him.

  15. Tiff says:

    Ever since his mom died there is no one advocating for his mental health. He needs help and there is absolutely no one in his circle willing to help him, instead they are feeding into this madness which makes it even worse. Those “campaign rallies” don’t set themselves up and putting his name on the ticket just didn’t happen. He has a team of people around him that care more about taking advantage of the situation than helping him.

    • Lady D says:

      Or they’re all just employees doing what the boss says because they are desperate to keep their jobs? How fast does he go through his staff? I guess it depends if they are long time employees/friends or people hired to help create his various enterprises.

  16. Angel says:

    The man is clearly not in a normal state and is crying for help. I don’t understand why she doesn’t force him to go to HP. I don’t know how this kind of stuff work but I am sure she has to power to do that. It will end up in a tragedy if he doesn’t take his meds.

    • Elizabeth says:

      He’s an adult, no one has control of him, (and the idea that white women should control a Black man or “force” him to do anything is not it) and no one has that kind of legal power to force him to go to treatment. Not without cause, and having (abhorrent) political views isn’t cause.

      I dislike the Kardashians SO much, but it’s not actually their fault Kanye has views that include being an anti-choice misogynistic nightmare Trump supporter, or that he is (possibly) refusing treatment. I honestly still think Kanye is mostly on an ego trip, and this isn’t all about having a possible mental disorder. He married into that family of his own free will and he’s continuing to do what he wants. There’s very little you could actually do legally to force an adult person to get treatment if they’re not demonstrably incapacitated or criminal.

      • Caty Page says:

        THANK YOU! He has more money than he knows what to do with, so help is not out of reach. And a woman, even his wife, cannot FORCE him to do anything.

        He is well enough to understand what he is trying to do. He is aware of literal reality in that he is not openly acknowledging visual or auditory hallucinations.

        If we are going to pity this clown, we also need to pity the megalomaniac #45.

      • Angel says:

        Elizabeth, the man is ill and he can’t control the mental state he’s in right now. No one is talking about his opinions. Even if he harmed someone right now he couldn’t legally be responsible for it. He is really ill. There is emergency court decisions for this type of cases and that’s what I am talking about. The last time he was forced into hospitalisation and that should be happening right now before it’s too late.

      • kif says:

        @Caty Page, “If we are going to pity this clown, we also need to pity the megalomaniac #45.” – you have a very valid point here. In the same sense, we should also consider Kim the same way we consider Melania – as complicit to the trash their husbands spews.

      • El says:

        But it’s not a white woman controlling a black man, it’s a wife making sure her husband and the father of her children is ok. We’d say the same no matter what race they were.

      • Melissa says:

        @ Angel — I’m not sure I agree that he has no control over himself right now. We have been watching this behavior for several months yet he is managing to pull off multi million dollar deals with the Gap.

        Kanye is an asshole that has acknowledged he has a mental illness, or at least he sometimes acknowledges it, sometimes not. Maybe he isn’t “getting help” because he’s just an asshole.

    • Cassandra says:

      It’s pretty difficult to get a 72 hour hold on someone in the US and the laws vary by each state. Generally he needs to verbalize a plan to harm himself or someone else or be physically violent or very very publicly intoxicated.

      And after that 72 hour hold it’s up to the person to decide if they want to remain in treatment-if there’s a bed, if they can afford it, if they have insurance, and if the MDs recommend it.

      • Angel says:

        @Cassandra. Damn that’s crazy, well in that case I owe some apologies to Kim, there’s clearly nothing she can do except maybe stop enabling him on social media.

  17. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    He needs serious help. He is desperately unwell, and peddling Trumpian nonsense. Someone please intervene.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Could not agree more. The tabloids are feeding on him while he spins out of control. He is always a jerk, but he is a severely mentally ill jerk at the moment and is in dire need of help. He has already started saying things that could traumatize his kids, how much collateral damage is gonna be allowed before someone intervenes?

  18. Bishg says:

    On one hand I feel sorry for Kim. On the other hand, I’ve been watching KUWTK and I don’t really get what she or her family could ever expect from this relationship. From the very beginning he seemed completely off and disconnected. I remember an episode when Kim went for a sonogram (btw, she was pregnant with North and she was miserable, and Kanye was nowhere to be found most of the time) and she was on the phone with Kanye after a big health scare, she was telling him about the baby girl and trying to get him excited and he was like “Ok… ok..” in a completely uninterested tone. And now to reveal to the whole world that he didn’t want this baby… it will be completely disheartening for North to hear about this sometime in the future. What seemed to keep Kim and Kanye together from the very beginning was their narcissism, their drive for fame and money and the myth of building a power-couple image. I guess Kim was well aware of Kanye’s mental health problems from the start but she kept them under control and or use them as a potential card to play whenever she wanted to feel like the victim/savior (in turns).

    • Lightpurple says:

      She chose to have more children with him after that. She chose to have more children with him after he had a psychotic break that required intervention. She chose to expose four children to life with a man who refuses to treat a serious mental illness. She can choose to leave him but those four children will be dealing with him for the rest of his life. She chose that for them.

      • Chaine says:


      • DME says:

        I agree with you. Not one when there were clearly red flags….but 4. I’m sorry but there’s something really selfish and wrong about bringing children into this disaster. He is a mess and it would be sad if he wasn’t a douche bag and an Uncle Tom.

      • T says:

        @LIGHTPURPLE. ^^^^ 100% agree. The point is she chose to keep having children with a man who is unwilling &/or incapable of treating his illness seriously. Bipolar is never easy to treat, people can continue to have highs and lows even when seeking medical help and medication. But he is so often off the rails that it is painfully obvious that he is not consistent with healthcare for himself and that is what she brought more lives into. More kids to have an ill father and more kids to have the chance of inheriting their father’s illness. Would have been an entirely different story had he always been open and vigilant with his healthcare.

      • H says:

        @Lightpurple, what she also did is choose to have children with a man who has a serious mental illness that can be passed down to those children genetically. According to Kanye at the rally, North wasn’t planned? So, I give Kim that. But the other three? Didn’t they have a surrogate and use Kanye’s sperm and Kim’s eggs?

        By the way, I’m bipolar. Diagnosed when I was 25. My doctor had a serious talk with me about giving birth (I would have to go off my meds to protect the child and possible ramifications of that). I choose not to have children naturally for that very reason plus other things, so I adopted. As soon as there is a vaccination for Covid, I’m on a list to become a foster parent. There are other ways to become a parent. NOT saying anyone with a mental illness shouldn’t have a child, that is a decision everyone has to make on their own. But, I would never want to put my kid through anything like what Kanye is doing to his family. He’s resistant to medication and off of it…truly manic and disturbing behavior.

      • LWT00 says:


      • detritus says:

        Come on lilac, are you really gonna fault her for having hope that her husband can get better?

  19. grabbyhands says:

    Meanwhile, Kris Jenner is sitting somewhere rubbing her hands together after having placed a call to TMZ, thinking about how she can thread this into a future show, and which magazine outlets will run the story sympathetic to their grifter family.

  20. Angelica Schuyler says:

    I think Kim must be playing the long game here on the road to divorce. She can’t reason with him and get him to sit down and take some meds, and she’s too afraid to just up and divorce him for fear of hurting her brand. BUT…..if she just lets him implode on his own, and lets the public see what kind of disaster she’s going through with him, when she finally does pull the plug on the marriage the public will be on her side…..she hopes. The theme will become that it’s not SAFE to have him around the kids, and she has to leave for the good of the children – even though she still loves him…..and they’ll throw him in the hospital on a 5150 for good measure (which ironically might be just the thing he needs)….

  21. MellyMel says:

    He’s sick and needs real help. Not wasting time doing this “campaign”. Watching him cry made me uncomfortable. It’s sad and disturbing and there’s nothing funny about it.

  22. Venus says:

    Okay, Kanye’s a mess. But is anyone wearing a mask here??????

    • ME says:

      He thinks he’s safe because he “already had the virus”. He’s a moron and so is anyone enabling him.

  23. ME says:

    There were reports last week that Kim and Kanye were in the Dominican Republic (there are pics). Why the f*ck is he not isolating for 2 weeks upon return to the U.S. ???

  24. Mellie says:

    This will be really great for North to read some day…or maybe she’s already read about it since those kids seem to do whatever they want. Does anyone in that stupid family ever think about their little kids before they go around acting like a bunch of dumba$$es? Think about all the moronic acts this family has been involved in…this is just the icing on the cake. Those poor kids.

  25. Alexandrajane says:

    I think KK is problematic in many areas but I don’t belive she considered termination for her pregnancy. I would say they all want to be mothers, even if motherhood is photographing beautiful kids and leaving. They tried for ages to conceive. (was v. Ill and watched that season through flu Googles.)

    • Chaine says:

      It is not problematic that someone would consider terminating a pregnancy… there are Many valid reasons that women across the planet make this decision every day.

      • Veronica says:

        Seriously. I’ve known plenty of women who’ve had them, even some who “struggled to conceive.” Lots of legitimate health and safety reasons to abort even if you did actually want the kid.

    • Lemons says:

      If she ever considered it, it was because Kanye considered it. I agree with you that Kim would have been happy to become a mother.

      I honestly hate that we’re even discussing this as it should be and remain a private conversation until Kim wants to have it. And maybe she never does. Kanye is a jerk for sharing that with the world. I don’t care how much she shows on her TV show, but if she doesn’t want to share this, she doesn’t have to.

  26. Case says:

    I can’t feel outrage over anything he said because he’s clearly ill and in need of help. It’s just sad, and so unfortunate that he doesn’t have anyone in his family or entourage that can encourage him to seek treatment.

  27. Marrria says:

    I didn’t watch the video because I get I can’t handle watching people cry, but from the descriptions it sounds like he’s trying to process his life & choices to anyone who will listen–aside from the general mess about Harriet Tubman & what I assume are his reasons for running. It reads like a (literal) cry for help. He needs medication & probably some intense & extensive therapy, in my opinion, as he seems like he has a plethora of issues he wants/needs to discuss with someone who can help him get through it.

    I really think Kim K. may need to head for divorce court. My mother left my father after his episodes became too much for her to handle & really to hide from the children, because she could see the impact it had on us. I was turning into a nervous wreck, & we were all just trying to keep him calm. I assume Kim has their kids in a relative bubble, & can limit his access to them, but if that is/becomes a necessity, she needs to ask herself if that’s healthy for anyone involved. My mother leaving my father forced him to (eventually) get help, & probably lengthened his life by decades: sometimes, that’s the best thing you can do for someone if you can’t do anything else.

  28. HeyThere! says:

    Heartbreaking! This man needs help. He needs an intervention to convince him to go get stabilized. This just hurts my heart. I hope he gets the help he needs ASAP.

  29. Ariel says:

    Someone (Kim) needs to look into a conservatorship. If he was a woman (like Ms. Spears) the public would insist someone do something.
    But since he is a man- we let him be batshit crazy in public.
    I feel bad for his wife and kids- b/c you know sometimes he is crazy like this at home.

    I don’t care what he is saying. All the headlines should read- mentally ill man with a lot of money is having an extended manic episode.
    Thoughts and prayers Kanye.

    • Kayleigh says:

      Maybe that’s what the KimKKlan are planning, the long game of getting control over his brand, like Brittney’s snake of a father is doing to her. 🤔

      • Lady D says:

        Brittney’s father probably saved her life. I honestly doubt she would be here without him. He also managed to do this while not ripping off his mentally ill daughter, or cashing in on her name.

      • Kebbie says:

        Do people who want to “Free Britney” not remember what she was like before the conservatorship? Not just shaving her head, but crying on sidewalks (outside of her gated neighborhood because she was constantly performing for the paparazzi), dating a skeevy paparazzo, locking herself in a bathroom with her son and refusing to hand him over to his dad? The British accent and pink wigs? That VMA performance? She was not well.

        And that doesn’t even include her alleged abuse of stimulants and her being controlled and scammed by that Sam Lutfi creep. Her dad saved her life and her fortune. She was well on her way to financial ruin and actual tragedy before he stepped in.

    • Anonyme says:

      Agree completely. When this was Brittney, or Amanda Bynes, or Demi Moore even (remember her spiral when Ashton left?)- people had very different takes. Yes there was some gawking and schadenfreud, but on the whole people were saying that they needed help and they hoped their families would intervene. Even when Charlie Sheen lost it and went on his “dragon blood” rampage, we all recognized that he needed mental help and applauded Denise Richards (his EX-wife!) for helping him get it.

      I can only guess why there is a double-standard for Kanye, but there shouldn’t be. He’s an only child, his parents are dead, Kim and her family are ALL he has. And they don’t seem to give a flying fig. And before you say that “women aren’t responsible for their husband’s bad behavior” that this true they aren’t. But the marriage vow is “sickness and health” – that’s the promise she made to him- and he is clearly sick and she isn’t keeping it. Instead she and her sisters have been posting sexy pix with new faces and hair on IG, and leaking stories that she wants a divorce and how hard this is for her for the past couple of weeks.

    • Melissa says:

      The difference may lie in the fact that Kanye doesn’t seem to have ‘episodes’ outside of a staged environment.
      Kanye isn’t driving the neighborhood with Chicago unrestrained on his lap
      Kanye isn’t chasing people with umbrellas
      Kanye isn’t shaving his head and screaming in the streets
      Kanye isn’t being batshit in “public”

      Kanye is being batshit in interviews, on radio shows, on stages, at rallys, at concerts — all staged venues.

      I’m not saying he doesn’t suffer from mental illness, that much is clear, how much I believe this is a public spiral vs a publicity stunt….I don’t know.

      • Anonyme says:

        Mental illness can manifest very differently between different people. Someone suffering from delusions of grandeur very well may book events and interviews to spout out their delusional comments and genuinely want attention for it- that doesn’t mean they’re of sound mental health.

      • Melissa says:

        @ Anon – sure, we will agree on the delusions of grandeur part, my point is that Kanye’s ‘outbursts’ are ONLY in a controlled environment. Brittney and Amanda both had very public meltdowns in a variety of circumstances and NOT on a public stage which generated income.
        I will admit that I believe absolutely nothing from the Klan so that may color my opinion on this, but I find his mania to be well timed for max publicity — the end game I’m not clear on.

  30. Toni says:

    If I was kim, I’d get out sooner than later. I’m embarrassed for her and her kids’

  31. cisne says:

    Kayne West at his best…he better keep Harriet Tubman name out his punk ass mouth…he and his referring to the plunder of black ppl in chattel slavery as “WORK”. Disgusting!!

  32. Veronica says:

    Mark my words – ten years from now we’ll be looking at this as a Britney 2.0 incident. He’s not in a healthy place, not in terms of behavior, his words, or his financial or public relations decisions. This is literally watching somebody destroy themselves in the public eye. I’ve no doubt some of it is wealth induced narcissism, but the complete irrationality and recklessness of some of his choices speaks to untreated manic behaviors that you often see in bipolar people. And he’s too exploitable for people to want to intervene and get him real help.

  33. Léna says:

    I was only 13 years old when Britney Spears started to spirale down (2008/2009 I think?) And I remember a lot of people making fun of her. It was almost sad to watch for me. She didn’t seem ok.
    And seeing sort of a same destructive behavior in Kanye is really sad. Now I keep thinking back how Britney was treated, how Kanye is now treated. He needs help asap!

    • Tiff says:

      Agree. Say what you will about Brittany’s family and K-Fed but they stepped in, got a conservatorship, made sure the kids were safe and healthy, and got her the help she needed. Did she want it, no. Was she furious, absolutely. But they faced her anger and wrath and got her help. Kanye doesn’t seem to have that kind of support around him.

    • Queen Meghan's Hand says:

      Britney didn’t organize a political campaign during her crisis breakdown. She just broke down. Kanye is in a much better place than she was.

    • serena says:

      Kanye has helped Trump get more supporters, has spoken out several times on important issues and with his large following .. people (unfortunately) listened.. that’s the difference. So I feel no pity for him whatsoever.

  34. Stacy Dresden says:

    The anti abortion people just kill me. Especially Kanye in this case as his wife was allegedly told by a doctor she could die carrying to term. She should be able to make that CHOICE just like anyone else in the world and he should have an appreciation for the kinds of matters at stake when it comes to terminating pregnancies.

    • Otaku fairy says:

      This. Plus, it’s not that uncommon for someone to have been in a situation where either they/their partner considered an abortion but ended up glad they didn’t, or their parents considered an abortion (either for them or a sibling) but happily didn’t go through with it. That doesn’t mean we want those experiences used to force anyone to give birth. Rights are still worth protecting even when other people are glad that right wasn’t exercised or don’t want to use them.

      Kanye’s situation is scary though. He’s awful on several levels, but hopefully this doesn’t end tragically.

    • Lizzie Bathory says:

      Right?! Kim’s been very honest that her pregnancies were brutal. How her husband could turn around and spew anti-choice nonsense after witnessing what she went through is hard for me to comprehend. I know it’s Kanye, but still. I’d be so hurt.

  35. Maida says:

    As others have pointed out, Kanye needs help, but can’t be forced to get it, since he’s an adult (and presumably doesn’t meet the threshold of being a clear danger to the safety of himself or other people).

    I hope for his sake — and for the whole family’s sake — that there is SOMEONE trying to talk sense to him and get him to follow his own best interests. Which would clearly be stepping off the stage for a while and dealing with his bipolar in a healthier way. I saw Carrie Fisher’s live show “Wishful Drinking” and she was super smart about navigating bipolar as a creative person. There are resources out there if he can motivated to use them.

    • H says:

      I was at a sci-fi convention about 2-3 years before Carrie died and got her autograph. I told her how my doctor and her book about ECT saved my life. I think I cried (huge Star Wars fan), but she was so gracious and amazing. Kanye needs a support system like Carrie had around her. While it might not have said her from drugs, she was always spot on about her bipolar disorder.

  36. Jules says:

    Those poor kids, they will grow up with all the money in the world but will need therapy for life. Two narcissistic parents. A plastic mom and a megalomaniac dad who publicly screams about almost aborting them. Sick, twisted and traumatizing.

  37. detritus says:

    If anyone has dealt with an adult who has a such a disorder, you know how hard it is to get them to seek care if they don’t want it. You can’t always involuntarily commit someone, for good reason, and I’m Canada the hold is short and usually only for suicide risk and danger to others (please correct me if I’m wrong in my details here)

    Even when it becomes criminal and dangerous, often the only system is the justice system which is very lacking for these people.

    Kanye is unfortunately playing out what seems a unmedicated manic episode in public. No one is going to be able to ‘force’ him to seek care while he’s riding this high. And often for those with delusions, despite it being counter intuitive, humoring them can help you connect and get them something to help.

    I feel for everyone involved in this, and hope the children are being supported as much as possible.

  38. adastraperaspera says:

    Kanye is well enough to show up on time for rallies, evangelical Sunday services, and photo ops at the White House with Trump when he’s needed. He unfailingly spits out ridiculous rhetoric for distraction (like claiming the confederate flag is harmless). And here he is crying on cue–he evoked his mom in this so it would stimulate the tears. He’s been on a reality show and lives with reality show people. This kind of manufactured stunt is their bread and butter. He’s laughing all the way to the bank.
    Kanye West’s job is to work for Trump to get write-in votes from African-American young people. That’s all this is.

  39. Queen Meghan's Hand says:

    Kanye is fine. Kanye is well. Kanye has been extremely loud and extremely ignorant for a very long time. Kanye is just spouting off right-wing/alt-right talking points, talking points that the majority of white evangelical Christians believe. Are all those people having a mental breakdown? Are all people who write for and read the Daily Caller, Brietbart in a manic fugue state?
    No. Kanye is just like them. We’ve known who Kanye is for a very long time: a self-important, ignorant, alt-right clown who sometimes makes good music.
    He is fine. And his wife Kim Kardashian-West is the passive wife who supports him and will not leave his side.

    • babsjohnson says:

      Exactly. I am a Kanye fan and you are right.
      He is putting out an album soon and he pulls variations of the same stunt every. fckn. time. I am amazed at how people consistently fall for it.

  40. Mtec says:

    He cries about almost “losing” his daughter to Plan B (*eyeroll* that’s NOT how it works) or abortion, yet no a tear for Kim who allegedly had a very difficult pregnancy and almost died giving birth? Unless that was all manufactured drama for the tv show/brand, it seems Kim could have actually lost her life, but he doesn’t seem to care about that life as much as the potential one of a child they had not had yet.

  41. Sue M says:

    I feel like America is screwed. It is so sad. I love visiting The States and as I live in a border city in Canada had done so regularly several times each year until the shut down. Canada and America are so intertwined economically that the failure of the US will have devastating consequences for us and for the rest of the world for that matter. Trump has made visible the short comings of the American electoral system. Now it clearly it is possible for whackos to be elected president, and the powers invested in office of the president seem to enable dictators. No individual should have that much power, and clearly the checks and balances of the congress and the courts do not work. Now, all the nut jobs out there see it is possible to get themselves elected. And what is so concerning is there are people that will vote for them, as evidenced by Trump’s electoral college victory! And the electoral college, that is so beyond undemocratic I am amazed that Americans hadn’t dumped it years ago. I would not be surprised if Kanye runs and is elected in 2024. Or Ivanka. Or Don jr. I am so sorry to post such doom and gloom. But this is really what it looks like to non-Americans observing from outside the US. I am horribly worried about what will become of both our countries. If America fails, I am afraid as Canada is so inextricably linked to America, that we will fail also. Please don’t go, America! And I am now ready to take the pummelling here from those who don’t think I have the right to criticize America.

    • ChillyWilly says:

      Sue, it looks and feels that bad to us in the US as well and everything you said is 100% accurate. Things are very, very scary right now and if we can’t get Trump out I worry that the American Experiment may very well be over. scary
      P.s.Can I come live with you in Canada? 😭

  42. ChillyWilly says:

    I don’t understand where Kanye’s internalized racism comes from? I can’t believe his mother would have raised him to not be proud of being black. So why is he always siding with the white supremacists? And he really needs to keep Harriet’s name out of his mouth! He has no clue what that woman went through to save herself and others.

    • Stara says:

      That’s what strikes me the most. Kanye’s opinions are consistent. For everyone talking about his manic episode, these are his real beliefs. Harriet tubman, slavery being a choice etc. This is who he is, it’s not a symptom. Also, $1 million for mothers, Kanye doesn’t even understand money, that’s probably why he thinks he’s a billionaire. He’s just another dummy with a platform.

  43. ohrhilly says:

    This was hard to watch. Kanye’s spiral started after hs mom passed away. Kanye needs help. Period. The sad thing is he has no one around, from what it seems, to stop him from this spiral. It is heartbreaking to watch.

  44. serena says:

    He’s no better than Trump at this point, talking about himself and quoting “facts” he didn’t even research about. Also can men just stop policing women’s bodies? ENOUGH.
    Kanye needs to shut his mouth.

  45. Tiff says:

    There certainly seems to be a lot of “unconscious bias” in these comments…

  46. Sparky says:

    I have bipolar disorder and thus I have so many thoughts on the post and subsequent comments.

    1. Probably first and foremost is that what goes up, must come down. For me. the manias were fun but in the back of my mind I knew that massive depression was right around the corner. I’m what’s known as a rapid cycler so for me it was a very real and immediate concern.

    2. The phrase 5150 refers to the 72 hour hold as set out in the Cali Welfare and Institutions Code. Section 5250 provides for a 14 day hold albeit under court order.

    3. Kanye is a total tool even on his best days. And for the cynics out there– he announced last week that he was going to drop a new album this week entitled “Donda.” He subsequently deleted the tweet/announcement.

    4. For all those criticizing Kim– we do not know what is going on behind the scenes. Kim can’t force him to do anything until he’s in 5150 range. I do know–cuz I saw it with my own eyes– that Kanye had bodyguards with him when he was inpatient at UCLA. They are locked wards (nothing nefarious just for patient safety) and his bodyguards were lounging around in the waiting area down the hall. This was at about 6:30 am. I was there for my ECT treatment which, btw, is the only thing that helped my bipolar disorder as meds didn’t do squat. It took my doctor 10 years to convince me to try the treatment which ultimately saved my life. It’s a complex illness.

    • kif says:

      on no. 4 – as @Lightpurple mentioned above, Kim had nothing to with this incident. it was his crew who brought him to the hospital (people mag says, he went voluntarily but police report says he was taken forcibly). kim followed from new york. their press release then was kanye suffered from exhaustion. months/ years after this incident, kim was still defending kanye as just being himself, “he’s just a free thinker” and lashed out at the media for saying kanye was mentally ill because he started started supporting trump.

      i don’t think these two even live together or see one another that much that is why kim is not bothered with these episodes. she and the kids are safe and far away from him.

      i think @bishg hit it on the head with their comment that “What seemed to keep Kim and Kanye together from the very beginning was their narcissism, their drive for fame and money and the myth of building a power-couple image.”. this is not the typical loving marriage. this is a business. and i wouldn’t be surprised either if these are just acts for attention to whatever he wants to promote.

      • Sparky says:

        I agree with most of your comment. With respect to Kim, my comment was in reference to the numerous comments above ours that put the onus on Kim to do something.

      • Lemons says:

        I think they are trying to work to do something according to Kanye’s latest tweets.

        I want to believe this is for him, but it really feels like their non-action on the public front is being interpreted as approval which is a no-no. In addition, Kanye is starting to spill information about their private lives and that is a no-no. If he’s not well enough to know when to shut up, he’s a danger to the brand and really to the family as a whole (including himself).

        This is not the spectacle Kim signed up for, and the rest of the family is probably tired of it too.

        I’m glad Kim has the means to distance herself and her children from the situation. Kanye is not a good person.

  47. HK9 says:

    Until Kanye cries at the funerals of all the black women who are currently dying in childbirth in his own country because of systemic racism, I have no time for this attention grabbing childish stunt.

    • Lanie says:

      Kanye would have to care about or respect black women for that to happen.

      As an aside, I’m totally over the narrative of poor Kanye being “Get Out’d” by the Kardashians. This man is where he wants to be: with his white queen, while trash talking black women and people who aren’t down with his plantation overseer act. And how dare he show his face at BLM protests after keke’ing with that racist goblin trump!

      Fuck him. He doesn’t get to actively harm black people and hide that behind mental illness.

  48. nicegirl says:

    I pray I’m around for my sons, I feel so sad for his welfare that his mom is passed.

  49. Mel says:

    Yeah, I’m not going to feel sorry for Kim or do the “poor thing” with her or for her. She has MORE than enough resources and money to get him in taken care of, even if it is against his will ( see Papa Spears), she and her family continue to aid and abet him in his madness. She went and KNOWINGLY had four kids with a man who suffers from mental illness , selfishly not thinking about the consequences for her own children. She is his Melania, she doesn’t care as long as it doesn’t touch her bottom line. She is horrible, her family is horrible, her husband is horrible and the only people I feel any sympathy for are those kids, they didn’t ask fro ANY of this but it has the potential to destroy them.

  50. Grace says:

    This is sad, but all I really got is he better not F/U the election. Past that, I hope he gets help!

  51. JanaTHING says:

    If I were Kim I would be petrified to leave him with my children…embarrassment aside, being in a manic state, the man is clearly a danger to himself and others,

  52. RoyalBlue says:

    why is there no test of mental health fitness before you run for president?

    hoping his family stages an intervention with a come to jesus meeting and tell him he has to get proper medication and counseling.

  53. I'm With The Band says:

    Reading his series of (now deleted) tweets about Kim and her family trying to lock him up, the sex tape, the movie ‘Get Out’, Bill Cosby etc is simply disturbing.

    The randomness of his comments, his victimisation, and the incessant messaging reminds me 100% of my ex-brother in law when he was in the midst of an episode. He would send countless messages to me and my family and was always paranoid and the one who felt victimised. He even sent a barrage of messages to his teenage daughters accusing their mother (my sister) of cheating, and a whole host of awful name-calling about their mother was involved. Needless to say, his kids want nothing to do with him now.

    He’s ok when medicated, but when he’s not, his behaviour is just like Kanye’s (minus the megalomania).

    Very sad, especially for the kids.

  54. February-Pisces says:

    I’m not gonna lie, I do have a soft spot for Kanye, rants and all and creatively I do think he is a genius. His back catalogue is second to none. But I’m absolutely fuming for Kim that he outed her like that. He had no right to say that, whatever was discussed between two partners should always remain confidential and I know this is Kim here who sells every second of her personal business, but he had no right openly say that without her consent and without explaining to north what it means first. This would cause north distress when she sees this in a few years from now.

    But I hate the idea that people are using Kanye mental health against him. We are always saying ‘we need to open up as discuss mental health issues’ and the second they see anyone struggling with their mental health “they’re crazy”. Kanye needs help, or he atleast needs someone by his side who is genuinely there for him, I don’t think that person is Kim.

    One thing I will say is whenever Kanye drops tea about anyone, LISTEN. Kanye says and does a lot of things but I don’t think he ever lies. I know he’s just dropped a load of tea on twitter so I’m gonna check it out.

  55. Flux says:

    I’m Australian. I don’t follow Kanye or the Kard-Jenners closely. Is he really mentally ill or just desperate for coverage? i.e., Is this just playing up his evident emotional instability for the cameras/coverage?