Dickie Arbiter: The rift between Prince Harry & William is ‘not healthy in any family’

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Ever since the Sussexit was announced in January, it truly feels like all of the British media has wordlessly and relentlessly pursued a new agenda: Bring Harry Home. That’s it. They bullied and smeared the Duchess of Sussex for two years, hoping that they could chase her off and that she alone would grow sick of their abuse and simply leave. They overplayed their campaign and underestimated how Harry would feel about seeing the woman he loves abused in that way. So when Harry left with Meghan, that’s when the new agenda started, where they’re trying to bully and cajole Harry into “coming back” to them. By the way, they also want him to abandon his wife and child. That’s their goal. They’re barely hiding it. One of the arguments they’re making is that Harry needs to “come back” for his brother, that Harry just needs to admit that he was wrong (to want to live in a non-toxic family) and apologize to Future King William. That’s the storyline now. And even Dickie Arbiter is pushing it:

Not so fast! Prince Harry and Prince William will remain at odds as long as they are on opposite sides of the pond, according to former royal press secretary Dickie Arbiter.

“I hope they settle their rift because there shouldn’t be bad blood amongst brothers, particularly those two brothers who went through such trauma together [with the] death of their mother, [Princess Diana],” Arbiter explained on Us Weekly’s Royally Us. “They’ve been through a lot, and they’ve carried each other, and they’ve supported each other. And to have a rift is not healthy in any family. So I hope they are getting back together again.”

However, the On Duty With the Queen author suggested William, 38, and Harry, 35, need to reconvene if they truly want to work things out. “Harry being in Los Angeles and William and Catherine being in the United Kingdom, [there’s] a great big ocean, a lot of land between, and it’s not going to be broached until such time they actually get together [and Harry comes] back to the U.K.,” he noted. “That’s the million-dollar question. … So if they’re talking on the phone, well, that’s a step in the right direction, but it would be nice if they could actually meet up.”

[From Us Weekly]

“And to have a rift is not healthy in any family.” I just… why is this the talking point? The Windsors have been dysfunctional as hell for decades. One could argue that King George VI created a healthy family life for Elizabeth and Margaret, but QEII and Philip have just created decades of dysfunction and toxicity among their children and grandchildren. And again, Harry did the HEALTHY thing. He stepped back. He moved. He knew his mental health would continue to be a struggle in the UK. As for this: “it’s not going to be broached until such time they actually get together [and Harry comes] back to the U.K.” – if William wants to reconcile with his brother, then he has the means to do so. It would not have to involve Harry (and Harry alone) dragging himself back to the UK just so William can pull his pecker out of the rosebushes long enough to speak to him.


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  1. TheOtherOne says:

    Harry being in Los Angeles and William and Catherine being in the UK. No mention of Harry’s wife? No wonder he effing left. He has his own family – he is not their permanent third wheel.

    • Redgrl says:


    • Tessa says:

      Kate is his brother’s wife not significant other. Weird.

      • missskitttin says:

        Those people wont Miss an opportunity to disrespect Meghan

      • smlstrs says:

        Also… Not Will and Kate and Harry and Meg…

        Or William and Catherine and Henry and Megan…

        William and Catherine and Harry…

        They reeeaaaalllly want him back in the junior third wheel sidekick position, don’t they?

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        Royal Rota Rats, and the BRF, are united in one purpose:

        They want Harry back in England to reassume the role he abandoned (for his mental health): not that of Prince of the realm, but that of National Scapegoat.

        This is a toxic family dynamic writ large against a global backdrop.

        Her Maj’s jealousy of anyone else shining too brightly, a flaw passed down to Charles and William, will end up having disastrous consequences for the British Monarchy.

    • AMM says:

      That’s the first thing I noticed. Are they saying his rift is with both of them (which would be the first time someone’s admitted that Kate’s as involved in this mess as everyone else) or do they just desperately want him to abandon his family and be a forever 3rd wheel?

      • Tealie says:

        There forever want him to be their cheeky chummy lakkie, who does silly jiggs for them at the end of the dinner table when they’re sad.

    • Babz says:

      Yeah, that omission stuck out like a glitter covered sore thumb, surrounded with flashing neon lights, didn’t it? And if there needs to be rapprochement, why can’t William and Ofwilliam hop on one of their private jets and take their happy asses to LA? Why must Harry – AND HIS WIFE, MEGHAN – have to make the first overtures? I am so over these people like Dickie Arbiter and his not-so-subtle-shade-throwing daughter, Victoria, flaunting their white privilege by decreeing that Harry must do thus and so, and grovel before his traitorous brother and his Stepford wife. Every day, I am more thankful that the Sussexes peaced out and left that snake pit.

    • Nic919 says:

      Yeah that was obvious. If there is a rift between the brothers so be it, but you either include both wives or none. Besides we all saw Kate’s behaviour at the commonwealth service. She’s just as bad as William in this.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @Nic19 Karen’s behaviour at the Abbey was atrocious – petty and classless. I understand that Debretts offers weekend etiquette classes. She should get off her lazy arse and attend one. The FFQ should know how to behave in public.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Yep, ironically Kaye proved that all of the clothes and titles don’t make you classy. Her behavior was ugly and intentionally obvious.

    • Tessa says:

      It is laughable that the Kate stans keep calling her “classy”.

      • Nic919 says:

        How many flashing incidents did she have before weights were added? Meghan would have been destroyed with even one. Kate took years and multiple incidents at engagements before it was under control. That’s not classy in the slightest.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      This practically smacks one in the face upon reading. It’s operation #EraseTheBlackWoman, again, just like with Kamala Harris in the primaries.


    • Prayer Warrior says:

      I don’t see either wife being mentioned? Where are you all getting that he’s talking about the wives? He doesn’t mention Kate. He doesn’t mention Meghan. I read the quote 3 times to find mention of either woman without success. I fully agree it’s NOT Harry who has to make any kind of “first move”. He tried and tried and tried, first as a bachelor, then as a married man, to get away from the toxicity of the RR whilst still supporting the RF but why are WE dragging the women into it? He doesn’t mention either woman in the quote above…..

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        “However, the On Duty With the Queen author suggested William, 38, and Harry, 35, need to reconvene if they truly want to work things out.
        ******* “Harry being in Los Angeles and William and Catherine being in the United Kingdom, [there’s] a great big ocean, a lot of land between, and it’s not going to be broached until such time they actually get together [and Harry comes] back to the U.K.,” *******
        he noted. “That’s the million-dollar question. … So if they’re talking on the phone, well, that’s a step in the right direction, but it would be nice if they could actually meet up’

        How do you not see that???????

      • wildwaffles says:

        Prayer Warrior: “Harry being in Los Angeles and William and Catherine being in the United Kingdom…”. That’s the reference. No mention of Megan, Harry’s wife, but Kate is lumped in. That’s intentional.

      • MerryGirl says:

        I guess people will see what they want to see….reading a quote 3 times and not seeing him mention ‘William & Catherine’ on one side of the world but only ‘Harry’ on the other is blatantly showing Dickie’s interest in only wanting Harry coming back.

    • Yvette says:

      “Harry being in Los Angeles and William and Catherine being in the UK. No mention of Harry’s wife?”

      I noticed that as well, and he also said “With Harry being in Los Angeles and ‘William and Kate’ being in London.” WTF????? Are some people in Britain now pretending that Meghan and Archie don’t exist?? Do they honestly not see how their disregard and dismissal of Meghan and Archie is why Harry left in the first place? This is sad on so many levels.

    • Original Jenns says:

      That absolutely stuck out to me! Um, missing an important person there.

    • khaveman says:

      Treating Meghan like a non-person, a non-entity once again. “Leaving her out” of the picture altogether. It’s so amazing they have the cajones to write that.

    • Zazu says:

      Exactly! The fact that Meghan is in LA obviously isn’t important enough to mention. Harry is is supposed to love his brother and sister in law more than his wife?!

  2. Priscila says:

    Harry being in Los Angeles and William and Catherine being in the United Kingdom, [there’s] a great big ocean, a lot of land between, and it’s not going to be broached until such time they actually get together [and Harry comes] back to the U.K.,”

    Oh yeah,so Harry and Harry alone must come back to U.K because Atlantic Ocean is what is keeping him apart from William AND Catherine.

    Ugh. These guys really want a royal threesome!

    • S808 says:

      RRs and royal fans alike are so obsessed with this freakin threesome it’s CREEPY. They don’t want Harry to be his own person, they want him to be some barnacle attached to the Cambridges.

      • Tessa says:

        Some rhapsodize about how “well” Kate and Harry got along. Forgetting that Kate is married to William and Harry is the third wheel. Did they really expect Harry not to get married?

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate stans are obsessed with the idea of a relationship between Kate and Harry. Forgetting that Harry never spent time with her before the wedding, barely spent time with any of them after. They want all of Harry’s love, attention, gentlemanly behavior, and protectiveness directed at Kate instead of at his own wife. Because they know Kate doesn’t get those things from William.

      • AMM says:

        They definitely want her to get the better brother while also getting to be the future Queen. They can’t stand the idea that she can’t have the best of both worlds and blame Meghan for “brainwashing” him against Kate.

        Never mind the fact that when asked questions about Kate, he always gave a vague answer saying he rarely sees her. They hung out for official events and that’s it.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @Nota This is a woman who cried over tights, after all. God only knows what kind of meltdown the delicate little petal had when Harry and Meghan escaped from their gilded cage.

      • Becks1 says:

        It’s really weird. There is such an emphasis on “missing these three” in the Kate fandom and its just weird. For a while I thought it was because they didn’t want Harry to be happy, just wanted him to be the constant third wheel, but then I realized its because they think that being the third wheel should make Harry happy because Harry must be secretly in love with Kate. They really think that Harry is in love with Kate and that Meghan destroyed Harry’s happiness because he belongs at Kate’s side. It’s……weird, like I said.

        People have been circulating clips of Kate and Harry interacting on twitter, and again its just…weird. I know that a 10 second clip of an interaction doesn’t tell you a whole lot, but I remember from those days how much emphasis was placed on how Kate was more comfortable and confident with Harry around. Lots of smiling and flirting with Harry (who didn’t respond besides a quick smile or something), a lot of times she stands closer to Harry than William, etc.

        It puts a lot of Sussexit into perspective, because its clear that Kate wanted to be “the only” – the only “young” female royal, the only woman in Harry’s life, the only woman at their joint engagements, etc. Enter Meghan, and put aside the fact that Harry adores her, but she got all the attention in general, and Kate could.not.deal.

      • Nic919 says:

        Harry has only ever been polite to Kate in public and she preened because William doesn’t bother to treat her even half as well.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        After Cain and Unable got engaged Harry said he was looking forward to get to know Kate. William pretty much kept Kate and her family away from his for a looong time. Even when they were at the same events, Kate’s interaction was limited until she got married. Most of it was because William wanted it that way.

        As for Kate, there was a period when she would flirt outrageous with Harry at their joint public events – its was pretty obvious that the press picked up on it. You can tell that it made Harry uncomfortable and he would avoid interacting with her. It suddenly stopped so it was clear she was spoken to about it.

      • Nic919 says:

        The Fug Girls basically wrote a book about this fantasy which was written not long after William and Kate got married. Harry is not and has never been interested in Kate. He is polite to her, as he is with most people, and it looks like more because William acts like a frozen fish stick around his own wife and has since day one.

        If we look at who Harry has dated, none of them look like Kate nor were they like her in personality.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:


        Before Harry met Meghan, Harry occasionally referred to Kate as “Limpet!”
        No love lost there- that’s worse than “Waity Kate.”

      • Becks1 says:

        @Nic – I read that book and enjoyed it, but looking back I can clearly see how it fed into this idea of Will, Kate and Harry as this happy threesome. And I think NOW, its clearly how poisonous that idea was, because its still used as a reason people dislike Meghan – she “broke up” that threesome. I wont read their new book because of that.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “And I think NOW, its clearly how poisonous that idea was, because its still used as a reason people dislike Meghan – she “broke up” that threesome.”

        @Becks1 – Where does “Rose Who?” and Rocksavage fit into all of this? LOL! LOL!

      • Original Jenns says:

        I feel like Kate is Bella, from Twilight. A blank slate these women can put themselves into. It’s some incestuous fan fiction, where she has the love of both princes. That’s why they fight so hard to keep it just the three. They can be KATE, and married to the future future king, and also have the illicit love of his brother, the naughty prince. But put Meghan in there, and it’s all over. They can’t pretend to be involved in the royal love triangle anymore. And they can’t pretend to be Meghan. She is a defined person who doesn’t fit with who they can image being.

      • MargaritasForBreakfast says:

        Nota you’ve assessed that situation well! I haven’t seen it articulated that way but it immediately resonated with me! You’re right! All that respect and affection Harry lavishes upon his beloved Meghan should be for Kate Middleton in the minds of weird people. They know Kate is not cherished in the same way (or does not appear to be)

      • Tealie says:

        Looking back at old videos of the “fab three”, you can always find Kate slightly too comfortably oogling her eyes Harry for no apparent reason. Touching his arm whilst she falls back and giggles up a storm, twiddling her hair whilst she stares at his lips ( somehow managing to provide that oh so scandalous ‘public to display of affection’ that keen stans say is ‘banned’), Whilst Harry just looks right through her or give her a cordial but ristricted laugh.

        I don’t doubt that Harry was Kates fun escape from her unhappy marriage, but it has all been always been very clear that the love triangle is so very one-sided

        But then again I guess when you’re used to a couple constantly standing 10 feet apart from each other with stone cold faces like strangers that have just met on th street, a guess cordial laugh would indeed ignite a mighty orgasm.

    • Tessa says:

      Once she joined the family, harry was polite to her and cordial. WIlliam OTOH would make these ugly expressions and snub Meghan.

      • Ginger says:

        If William acted like a husband people wouldn’t react so much to Harry being polite. William acts like Kate isn’t even there, he barely looks at her. Harry is explaining things to her and being kind and everyone thinks they are into each other. It’s crazy.

      • Tealie says:

        I completely agree ginger, Harry is just a A normal open person, which in a family which struggles make or show any familiar connection even amogst couples, is always misconstrued as something else.

    • February-Pisces says:

      They won’t be happy until kate is married to both brothers. Thats the stans fantasy, a win for all miserable moany women on twitter. See men don’t want beautiful, smart, articulate, hard working and charismatic women, they want a dull, dreary, lazy women who can’t string a sentence together.

      Kate flirting with harry gives me second hand embarrassment. It’s all about Kate’s desperate need to be ‘desirable’. No wonder she was balling her eyes out at meghans dress fitting, Meghan was marrying Kate’s dream man.

      @notsosocialbutterfly we need to bring ‘limpet’ back lol. Harry knew exactly who kate was from day one.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “No wonder she was balling her eyes out at Meghan’s dress fitting, Meghan was marrying Kate’s dream man.”

        What a POV!!!! I never looked at it from that angle but you are SO CORRECT!

      • February-Pisces says:

        Lol, and the fact Harry’s so hot for Meghan, his attraction for her can be felt a mile away. That must really bother kate, she tried really hard for harry to fancy her, but he was like ‘nah’. She was all over him at the queens jubilee in 2012, she didn’t even notice William was there.

      • Tealie says:

        I agree, Kate was very clearly trained from that her only goal in life should be to be desirable and to marry a rich man, I wouldn’t be too surprised if she were tearing her hair out over not being the only ‘Princess‘ and thus centre of male attention in that family anymore.

  3. Becks1 says:

    Sometimes having a rift like this can be the healthiest thing in a family, at least for the person who was being manipulated and abused.

    you notice there is never any discussion of the royals going to California – and I don’t think that’s just because of the pandemic.

    I’m honestly not sure at this point if the rift between Harry and William can be fixed, but if it can be, I don’t see it happening any time soon.

    • notasugarhere says:

      ‘If you knew what I know, you’d do what I’m doing’ – Prince Harry

      I don’t think this relationship can be fixed, nor should Harry be required to try just to make William look/feel better. Harry spent most of his life used and abused by the BRF, including by his own brother. Whatever William did or said about Meghan and Archie, that was irrevocable in Harry’s mind.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Nota – your last sentence…..I wonder if it will ever come out. I am getting all the stories mixed up now, but didn’t Tom Bradby say in January that some things had been said that could not be unsaid? At the time I thought it was a racial slur, and I still wonder if that was it. I imagine that was not the “only” thing but I can see that being the final straw for Harry – you’re going to let my wife be abused in the press AND you’re going to abuse her in person? I’m out.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        Becks1, I think it was a racial slur. Might not have been said to her face, but said in someone’s presence who repeated it to Harry. Because things just flipped on a dime. One minute they were cordial, the next Harry looked ready to pummel William. Add in the abuse and they were done.

      • Nic919 says:

        I think something racist was said and it got back to Harry. And it could be either William or Kate. I mean they were both okay with hanging a painting of a slave boy in their private rooms so they are clearly cool with casual racism.

      • Tealie says:

        I have a feeling someone thought they were gonna be able to say their usual behind closed doors racial slurs smugly about Meghan to Harry’s face and suddenly ‘snap out of it’ and be release from his trace *eyeroll* and he completely flew off the handle, and really started to realize and open his eyes as to what this “whole thing” was about. Up until that point there was probably just a lot of gaslighting and quiet whisper shuffle shuffle, and Harry hoping it wasn’t true. I really hope he punched that bastard in the face.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Whatever it was, it released Harry from any ‘obligation’ to protect William’s children from Andrew as Regent.

    • Snazzy says:

      Absolutely. It may not be good for the RF as they have lost their punching bag, but it is 100% healthy for Harry and his family. The fact that they still refuse to even acknowledge Harry’s wife and child proves it

    • S808 says:

      I don’t think so either. Looking at all of this from Harry’s POV, they had complete disregard for his feelings (as usual probably) and even facilitated the press in a smear campaign against the woman he loves. His child was compared to an animal and none of his family members made a peep in defense. Willam added to an already raging fire (that he arguably started) with that plane stunt. And that’s not even counting being using as a human shield for William prior to marriage or being used to rehabilitate Charles and Camilla. Megan and Archie aside, I think Harry is just done. Done being used and done doing for people who have never done for him. Harry will be fine without the Windsors. This is the case where family isn’t who you share blood with but who you’d bleed for.

    • Girl with the Soup Tattoo says:

      Ugh I needed to read this, thank you!!!! Going through something similar in my family where my brother and his wife did some pretty terrible things, and my parents have been pressuring me and my other brother to make nice because “family”, nevermind other brother thinks they are the victim in all this and happy to throw my family under the bus. His wife is pregnant now and every so often I think maybe for the sake of their child I should reach out (never mind the first time was rejected) but then I think F-uck no! Why should I after all the pain you caused? But the thing about family….it’s so engrained in our human society and it’s really encouraging (for me at least) to see more people publicly standing up to say eff your toxic family! I always thought that went for people with more serious toxicity like outright abuse, but damn if gaslighting and bullying isn’t abusive also. Good for Harry, good for Meghan and good for their little peanut!

      • Becks1 says:

        Ugh, I’m sorry you are dealing with this. Family IS complicated and it can be hard to cut ties, even temporarily. And its hard if your whole family isn’t on board – like if you cut ties with your brother, but your parents etc don’t.

        My father’s family was pretty toxic (not when I was a child, but my sister had a mental illness and it just brought out the worst in my dad’s family) and while our relationship was rocky and verging on nonexistent for years, I still made a conscious decision to cut them out and not see them anymore. Emotionally it made such a difference, knowing that I was done with them.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        I am so sorry you are dealing with this Girl with the soup. Enablers often put pressure on people to cave in their heAlthy boundaries to make things easier. You have to make healthy choices for yourself. Good luck and sorry things are so hard, I have been there.

      • epc says:

        I had to break off with my sister and her family more than 30 years ago, because they did some truly unforgivable things. I regret that it had to happen, but I’ve never regretted being free from their craziness. It was especially hard when my mom died (she and the rest of the family were always 100% on my side of the issues), but still no regrets. She used to send me pics of her grandchild to try to lure me back in. For years, I used to get that heart flutter when the phone rang, afraid that it would be one of them. Sometimes, for the safety and health of yourself and your own family, you have to make these hard choices. Best to you.

    • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

      @Becks1 For Penis with Teeth and Keen to go to California, they’d have to have some humility and actually attempt to meet Harry AND Meghan halfway. And they have absolutely no humility. They are two of the most loathsomely entitled beings on the planet. They simply can’t understand why Harry has chosen his wife over them.
      Have you ever noticed that those people who are obscenely dull are also the most smug and self-satisfied?

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      Absolutely it is best to place boundaries between yourself and toxic family members. Sometimes it’s the only way to survive in a reasonably healthy manner.

    • ABritGuest says:

      They want Harry to come back alone to heal rift with William as misogynist racists like Dickie& Lady Colin think that Harry is under Meghan’s ‘spell’. So if they can get him away from her they can intervene& he will come to his senses& return to his supporting role behind William& Kate.

      I never realized how invested some royalist were in the trio. I understand theres even a new book which features an affair with Harry& Kate. Also weird as aren’t royal fans meant to love the Cambridges as the perfect family unit& don’t they see Kate& Will as the perfect long term love match like the Queen& Philip? So odd same fans would be into this kink.

      Ironic the press are so keen for a reunion when they helped fuel the drama. Sign that sources of what Sussexes are up to must be non existent now.

      What must really hurt is even if they didn’t like Meghan- they could have at least allowed her a peaceful pregnancy knowing that Harry has talked about wanting kids for years. To stand by and even contribute to smears & to be briefing journalists that Meghan was a degree wife just a few weeks before she was due to give birth was truly cruel. The Sussexes have been betrayed to the press by both sides of their families at such a sensitive time & its a lot to forgive& reconcile.

    • Tealie says:

      I don’t think it can be, but they’re so used to using and abusing Harry and treating him like a play and go jester, that they don’t realise that he’s moved on and has his own life now and are no longer the centre of his universe.

  4. MegJ says:

    It’s like telling an abused wife to go back to her abusive husband. Yeah, not gonna happen. William doesn’t care about a reconciliation with Harry, he’s just disappointed not to have the inside gossip on them that he can sell off to the media to make himself look good. I hope Harry and Meghan are living a happy life away from the gossips and backstabbing at court.

    • notasugarhere says:

      He’s incandescent with rage that Harry and Meghan escaped to the US, instead of William being allowed to banish them to ‘Africa’.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        That plan was such a racist slap in the face, omg.

      • Becks1 says:

        YES, that was such a racist story that got pushed out. And it was racist on several levels – banishing the black duchess to Africa, acting like “Africa” isn’t a huge continent with many many different countries, and also acting like banishing them to Africa would mean they didn’t have access to the press or internet or anything. Like they would live in a hut in the middle of the savannah or something. It was just so bad.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        I bet that is true, he wanted to banish them for the power control and they one-upped him.

      • FicklePickle says:

        I had always been rather surprised they managed to restrain themselves from making any mention of Kenya or Happy Valley when they were talking about that, but in hindsight I suppose they were waiting until H&M had been there for a while to roll out the “unemployed Windsor’s languishing in hedonistic Foreign Lands” storyline to make W&K look better in comparison.

      • Juniper says:

        I guess they forgot about Meghan being an American Citizen. Oops.

    • Tealie says:

      After th after those Willy leaks of the Sussex is location in Los Angeles, I think Harry needs to not only cut off contact through distance but stop with the phone calls and email communication completely for at least three years for them to actually finally understand and value him. Because being cordial is clearly not working. Thinking about it, William probably knows he has to have a scapegoat when he is King, and without Harry, Archie and Meghan there the next fall guy is his kids. they just upset the Sussex has left before they could force them out for PR

  5. S808 says:

    If they want Harry back, why is the condition for HIM to apologize? I don’t think they even want Harry back. They want his charisma and influence back. They want to be able to sell off his private life for protection. If they cared about Harry the person, none of this would’ve happened.

    • Nyro says:

      Harry’s been carrying that family on his back for years now, just like his mother before him. It’s gonna be bad once The National Grandma passes. They know they need Harry and Meghan to keep that sinking ship afloat.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Because William wants Harry completely and utterly under his thumb and control.

      It’s becoming more and more obvious that the Cambridges were not only behind Sussexit but the ongoing smear campaign against Meghan.

      William cannot handle that Harry has stepped out of the shadows to be his own man who now has a family of his own – William has NO influence or control over Harry’s life and that BURNS!! Same with Top CEO, she wanted to exert that same control over Meghan – to put her down to embiggen herself. Backfired on them both.

    • Ginger says:

      They need Harry back because he was the only one in that family with spark and charisma. He made the Cambridge’s somewhat relevant. Without him they look incredibly dull. Even their kids don’t seem to make them relevant.

      I don’t buy that Harry and William were ever that close. I think it’s been years and years of resentment and finally he snapped and left. Dickie has always hated Meghan and desperately wants the RF to look good again so he needs Harry to come crawling back.

      • L4frimaire says:

        It’s pathetic though that they think the only way Harry can make the royals look good, that they find acceptable, is if he ditches his wife and child. That says a lot about what they’re about. They should just incubate heirs in a lab and forget about real families.

      • Tealie says:

        Yes I agree I don’t think even think they know what “close” is in that family, I think they think “close” is when brother allows you to pin everything on him so you can go and fuck around with everyone and their mother in your village.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      They are full of anger and jealousy that the world admires the charisma and popularity the Sussexes possess and enjoy.

  6. notasugarhere says:

    To which I reply,

    O, Dick, your obsession with Harry, his wife, and child is not healthy.

  7. Jodi says:

    I, for one, and so tired of this narrative that just because you’re brothers/family, that means you need to make an extra effort to make a toxic situation “work”. it’s nonsense and honestly, it’s this mindset that keeps people miserable and taking abuse for the majority of their lives. I really believe that in addition to all the biases that the UK media and the RF have with regards to Harry marrying a strong, beautiful, articulate woman of color in her own right… they are equally offended that Harry has chosen to remove himself from their toxic web. Toxic people double down on their relentless abuse tactics when someone decides they deserve better because, just that act alone, tells the truth about who they are and what they’ve been doing. this is societal gaslighting that’s been going on for ages: “because it’s your family, you need to try extra hard to navigate the abuse cycle” and it’s just nonsense. the more they double down, the farther removed Harry needs to get. they are a cesspool of abuse and toxicity and he has shown who he is by removing himself from it. stay strong Harry! you’re doing good things!

    • Molly says:

      This! I hate the whole “it’s family” to make people feel guilty into getting along. If I don’t chose you as a friend why would I spend time with you just because we are related? It is horribly unhealthy. People need to understand not everyone will get along in this world, some people are just toxic, and nobody should feel forced to just because of family. ugh.

    • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

      @Jodi Absolutely; hear hear. Sharing DNA does not mean that the relationship is non-negotiable. You have to cut people off, dump them like toxic waste if they are damaging your existence. I’ve cut off part of my own family for the sake of my mental health. Harry has obviously done the same. Such relationships are not worth saving.

    • Tessa says:

      Did William and Kate want to choose Harry’s Bride? He obviously was not interested in Pippa. So would there be some cousin of Kate’s to marry him off to. Or would they want him to remain unmarried so he can be third wheel?

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Rumour is Kate was – apparently she had a list of women she deemed suitable and yeah she and Carole tried very hard with the press to make Harry and Pippa happen and he shut that down very quickly.

      • Lizzie says:

        The queen approved the wedding so W&K should have kept their mouths shut.
        Harry is in his 30′s, in what world to you tell a man that age who is or is not suitable for him? Cambridge’s owe both Sussex’ a huge apology. They also owe the Queen an apology for trying to sabotage a wedding she approved.

      • Nic919 says:

        Harry put out a press release denying that he was dating Pippa, which is how much he hated that idea.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        @Nic919 – he wasn’t the only one, Henry Percy’s mother had a lawyer put out a similar statement when they pulled the same stunt with the very aristocratic and wealthy Percy family.

        Its a tactic they used very successfully on William and thought it would work again – it didn’t.

      • Tealie says:

        re digital Unicorn, I always think about that, and think about what a grotesque weasly social climber you have to be to want your children to marry into the same family as you and some sort of creepy incestuous bond.

  8. kelleybelle says:

    Remember folks, it’s Dickie Arbiter. Perhaps if William could stop being a jealous, competitive and childish dickhead, things would be different. Meanwhile, have a seat, Dickie. You have no access and you’re always wrong, so do stop talking.

  9. Marivic says:

    William misses his brother because he doesn’t have anyone to bully anymore. The same thing with the British media; they miss the Sussexes because they don’t have “reliable” stories from palace sources to use and bully them no end. So good riddance.

  10. taylor says:

    I thought Will, Kate, and the rest of the family was flourishing since the “drama” left. Settle on a narrative already.

  11. TheOriginalMia says:

    Every statement is about Harry and Harry alone, but it’s William and Catherine who need him. For their image, Dickie. For their image. GMAFB. Harry is a grown man, who made an adult decision to move his family away from the racist, toxic hot mess that is the UK. He and Meghan are happy and healthy, which is probably why we get these endless stories. Harry isn’t an emotional wreck. He isn’t bald like his brother. He seems genuinely content with his family in the States. Suck it, Dickie!

  12. Charfromdarock says:

    Dickie’s narrative is sickie.

  13. BayTampaBay says:

    In the last picture of the PWT, he really looks like Edward, Duke of Kent.

    • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

      Lol, does PWT stand for Prince William the Terrible? Or Prince William Tyrannus? I’ve seen this abbreviation before, but never caught its meaning.

  14. Andrea says:

    This situation reminds me so much of how my in laws treated me for a decade, until I told them once and for all to go f@&$ themselves. My husband never really effectively protected me and so my hat is off to Harry in that regard. It took my husband a long time to see the light, and it’s still a struggle. The “but faaaaaamily” excuse for forcing people to stay in roles that serve no one but one asshole (narcissist) is never used more frequently than in a toxic, dysfunctional family.

    Harry and Meghan getting out is the smartest, and bravest, thing they could have done. They will never stop being punished for it, but they were already being punished and would have no matter what, because they’re the scapegoats. The only solution is to GTFO.

    • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

      @Andrea Good for you: you’re clearly exceptionally brave and strong yourself, and a decent person who won’t negotiate with emotional terrorists. I admire you for that.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      Are you me?
      Joking- my in-laws have both passed some years ago, but this is very familiar territory.

  15. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    Oh yes, I saw this the other day and thought ‘but where’s Meghan? Where’s Meghan? Can’t see any Meghan… Ah. They’ve actually been this blatant about it, haven’t they.’ This incredibly toxic family is so far beyond the bounds of Normal that we Bitchies wouldn’t be able to find it with a map and compass. This isn’t a wistful plea for Harry to ‘come home’ (and dump the wife and child/ren he adores): this is along the lines of a royal command. ‘You WILL come home because it is your duty to the heir to do so. You WILL sacrifice your freedom to ensure PWT’s happiness. You WILL present yourself sans wife and child/ren to satisfy Kween’s demands.’ None of this is about Harry, it’s entirely about Penis with Teeth being bent out of shape because Harry ‘defied’ him. Sick.

    • Tessa says:

      There is a directive (on some comments sections) to “take Archie away” and return to the UK. without his wife. That would be a horrible scenario for Archie since he’d be separated from his own mother and be with the cold unfeeling royals. And Harry would be miserable. Who does William think he is?

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @Tessa Oh, Lord. That’s horrifying. Remove the child from his loving mother’s arms and bring him up in the stultifying epitome of patriarchal whiteness. All to satisfy PWT’s ego.
        Straw poll: do we think William is an actual narcissist, or just hideously over entitled?

      • Tealie says:

        Andrew’s Nemesis says:
        As Williams nanny basically said when describing the differences in the two as children and early teens: William has never been told no he thinks the whole world revolves around him (and I think knowing that you’ll be future king as a child and never having to face reality is could do that to you) Harry has always been a very personable and bubbly person even as a child, who is able to earn respect and admiration from his house keeps and the staff through his charecter, whereas William very much demanded and expected it without doing much. And I think with Diana gon – the only person who apparently was able to take him down or notch – his ego was allowed to run awry.

    • Tessa says:

      There is a directive (on some comments sections) to “take Archie away” and return to the UK. without his wife. That would be a horrible scenario for Archie since he’d be separated from his own mother and be with the cold unfeeling royals. And Harry would be miserable. Who does William think he is?

  16. Jay says:

    I mean, at this point we can all just assume Dickie effing Arbiter will always choose the most misogynistic, racist, and awful take – it’s like a superpower!

    I wonder what kind of life people like Arbiter envision for Harry after, presumably, he comes to his senses, crawls back to the palace and begs his brother for forgiveness, all while leaving his wife and young son an ocean away?

    It’s like they want him to live in Kate and William’s basement as a forever bachelor who is cute with kids and nonthreatening for Kate to flirt with, and never have a life of his own. WTF?

    • Tessa says:

      Another annoying thing in some articles is that Archie “will miss out on being with his family” ignoring that Archie is already with his family.

    • Nic919 says:

      While Dickie Arbiter always has the worst take, he is sadly not an outlier in the UK media. Many push the whole Harry come back narrative, excluding Meghan and Archie, as if Harry will leave them to return to the white people. It is quite disturbing how mainstream that narrative actually is.

  17. Dee says:

    William is 38. He’s a grown man, and it’s time he stopped faffing about and got serious about his role in life. Harry’s found his, thank you very much.

    • Ginger says:

      Exactly. The press were saying Harry needed to find his place in life and he has. It’s William who is lost. The press say that William is a statesman and a perfect family man and will be a great king, so why do they need Harry? Could it be that the press know William is none of that and Harry would have to carry the monarchy? I think so.

    • paddingtonjr says:

      I think that’s just another problem the Cambridge-stans have with Harry: he has a purpose in life. He has started two charities, he and Meghan have their new foundation, they are happily married with a child, they have done work with charities in LA and continued to work on behalf of the UK and Commonwealth despite the pandemic and despite not being full-time royals. So far, the only role William has had is FFK, which he won’t be able to fulfill for at another 20 years, if at all. He will be in his late-50s, early 60s by that point; the kids will be in their 20s and figuring out their own roles within the BRF. At least Harry and Meghan can point to a number of accomplishments; what do W&K have?

      • HeatherC says:

        Keen Kween Kate invented a butt log, remember. And no one gardened anywhere before her (according to stans, but they deny how good a Rose gardener PWT is!)). Normal Bill did real life spy training so he’s like James Bond (hahahahahaha).

        The whole reason Meghan did Smart Works is because Kate worked at Jigsaw for five minutes over a decade ago (remember that one?).

        They have a whole list of accomplishments. Somewhere. Maybe.

  18. February-Pisces says:

    If dickie is so loyal to the queen and the rest of the royal mafia, why is he so publicly messy and constantly trashing the queens grandson? I thought ‘discretion’ was of the upmost importance to the monarchy. He basically a palace front man when it comes to generating negative harry and Meghan stories.

    William could of had a brother, Kate could of had a female friend, they said “nah, we wanna destroy their lives so the daily mail comments section praise us to the heavens”.
    They made their choice and they chose the press. The sad thing is (to paraphrase Adeal) they could of had it all. They could have been a great foursome, happy family, and positive press round. Willie and Karen will lead very lonely and miserable lives and they deserve it.

    • Tealie says:

      Dickie knows how do you feel about people of colour, so he knows what he’s saying and the sentiments are no stranger to the Queen.

  19. ennie says:

    OMG they caused their ,or at least helped, gaining clicks and money in the process, and now they have the nerve to say this.

  20. Bettyrose says:

    If only there were some means through which two brothers could communicate in real time despite the geographic divide. But that’s crazy talk. Only option is to return to the UK or never speak to each other again.

  21. Digital Unicorn says:

    Artiber is a bitter old man who has NO ACCESS anymore to the RF – he burned that bridge years ago when he wrote books about them to cash in. He’s just repeating the nonsense he reads in the Fail.

  22. Izzy says:

    1. Harry and MEGHAN – they are a family now, FFS, the RR need to stop showing their racist azzes every single time.
    2. Clips of Kate flirting with Harry doesn’t say “great relationship between them” so much as it screams “she’s miserable and realized she picked the wrong brother.”
    3. Dickhead and the rest of them need to own up to their roles in this ongoing rift.

    • bettyrose says:

      I know, I just can’t with the comments about the RF being Harry’s family. Harry is an adult, with his own family, a wife and a child. It’s gross to suggest he leave a wife he’s clearly in a very happy marriage with, but monstrous to suggest he leave his child. And given how obsessed this family is with blood-lineage (those born of marriage, that is), it’s pretty fking telling.

      • Izzy says:

        So obsessed with blood lineage that they have for centuries married themselves, basically. This family is basically inbred white trash with some tiaras.

    • Tealie says:

      it’s strange how they try and use that the frame keen in a good light, because to me and every normal person how miserable she is with William in her every day life.

  23. Vanessa says:

    I Honestly think that a lot of kate fans are just like her lazy boring mediocre white woman who pick the wrong guy to married . This obsession with Harry being in love with his sister law is wishing full thinking’s on kate part and her nitwitted racist fans base part . The royal reporters and Cambridge’s can’t stand it that Harry choose to walk away from all that the royals offers for love not only love but his love for a black woman and his child their the ones who matter the most to him . Harry is successful and happy that’s what upsetting this people how dare he be happy with a woman we deemed not worthy .

    • Nic919 says:

      Kate is relatable to a lot of women because she is excessively mediocre and they feel they could be her. She is not threatening to them. She is essentially a cipher for their princess fantasies.

      Meghan is far more intelligent and has ambition and ability, which bothers a lot of these women because they could not emulate her even if they tried. Basically the same women who hate Hillary for daring to do more also hate Meghan. Plus there is the bonus racism with respect to Meghan.

      • bettyrose says:

        But women “just don’t trust” Hillary. GGGAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Calibration says:

        Yes, Nic, that’s it. She’s so mediocre in every way that’s she’s projected on by the stans. Then comes Meghan who is beautiful, smart, had an actual career and does stuff immediately. she shows Kate up and the stans revolt.

    • Tealie says:

      I agree Kate is a blank canvas voidless canvas to which they can project everything onto.

  24. L4frimaire says:

    This racist Arbiter has always refused to acknowledge Meghan as anything other than a “ fling”. Is he Williams new mouthpiece? What is this urgency to get Harry back to the U.K? Why exactly do they need him there when it seems all the senior royals have been trotted out? The fact that they refuse to acknowledge Harry’s family, his wife and child speaks volumes. They know exactly what they are doing and until they acknowledge how poorly they treated Meghan, and by extension Harry, he has no need to go back there. These pleas and attacks seem to emerge each time the Sussexes do or say something that garners international press. They weren’t expecting Harry to hit back so forcefully at the smear directed toward Travalyst, or for Meghan’s speeches to get such attention. The royals want that shine but they are not willing to concede in any way they bear some responsibility for the fact the Sussexes are gone. They act as though William is the sun king, but he is sorely lacking that quality. When was the last time William took responsibility for anything or when has the Royal family demanded more of him? They put more of the responsibility of propping up the Royal family on Harry, and even Meghan, who has a better chance of going to Mars than being on the throne. William can pick up a phone or a pen if he needs to speak to his brother and work things out. The good thing about being 8 time zones away is that one doesn’t need to see this stuff and it’s not the first headlines they see. This is the same rage, rinse, repeat they have every few weeks.

    • Lizzie says:

      William had a chance to wish his brother well the last time the met but instead he turned his back. That says everything about petty Bill.

  25. Jen says:

    One day, the royal reporters may just learn that planes can fly from the UK to the USA, so if William wants to see his brother so badly, he can visit.

  26. one of the Marys says:

    I think they want Harry back to improve the image of William. These past 2 years and the lawsuit are destroying William’s reputation. Airing all this dirty laundry is catastrophic right before the coming change in leadership. Why Charles is not taking charge more is a mystery to me
    The blog ‘Captain Awkward’ does a great job addressing family conflict and estrangement complete with scripts for all those manipulative conversations ugh

    • Lizzie says:

      IDK, they just like saying Harry SHOULD come crawling back.

    • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

      Penis with Teeth is even getting short shrift from the Daily Heilites re: mental health, like ‘what the hell would he know about it?’ and ‘yes, it must have been so difficult for him during lockdown with his twenty nine rooms’. Couple that with PWT’s laziness which is so chronic that he doesn’t want to run Charles’s pride and joy, the Duchy of Cornwall (and Charles •has• worked exceedingly hard at it, promoting sustainability and organic farming) because it’s too much work… and you get squirrels like this article.
      Trouble is, they’re going to run out of squirrels at some stage, and then the midden will really hit the windmill.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        It is the Prince’s Trust not the Duchy of Cornwall that PWT turned his back on.

      • Tealie says:

        re BayTampaBay I don’t think William wants to do either his plan is to stay solely in Norfolk and do his own things.

      • notasugarhere says:

        BTB William has done nothing for The Duchy either. He never even finished the estate management course from a few years ago.

  27. Lizzie says:

    It’s pretty obvious there is an ocean between them because Harry wants it that way.

  28. Flying Fish says:

    Would someone please shut Dickie up after his head is retrieved from the the Cambridge’s ass.

  29. JustMe says:

    A disfunctional family has existed from the beginning of time – ever since Cain killed Abel!

  30. MsIam says:

    It’s funny to me that if Dickie Dickhead is so big on brothers and families reconciling why is he not moaning about Charles and Andrew? Don’t they supposedly hate each other’s guts? And they live in the same country. But oh no, it’s Harry who must come back and lay at the feet of William and “Catherine “ in order to make things better. What part of “it ain’t gonna happen” do these people not understand?

  31. Ni says:

    Imagine having your mother’s death thrown in your face. What creeps.

  32. yinyang says:

    Why the pressure on Harry, and why does his name come first when it comes to making amends. This is really pathetic. Anyway, Graham Smith from the Republic is pushing back to accusations of any racist feeling towards Meghan, which tbh its very hard to prove racism, he also feels he’s been impartial towards both Harry and William, yeah right, that’s why he rarely if ever posts of William and his white family, even though it would be more beneficial since William IS the monarchy, smh.

  33. candy says:

    I think the only way they would return to England is if they ran out of money, which could legitimately happen with the pandemic stalling all their initiatives.

    • Still_Sarah says:

      @ Candy : I agree about the money issue. The combination of the pandemic stopping everything as well as the loss of the Sussex Royal brand really hurt H & M’s future chances. And as a royal, Harry has no concept of money or what his luxury lifestyle costs IMO. They have millions of their own (plus money from Charles for one year) but with their current situation (security costs, legal costs, etc), I think they are going through it quickly with almost nothing coming in. This is why I think they will end up going back. They won’t like it but I believe they will return.

      • Nic919 says:

        So Meghan is going to completely forget how to manage her money and act like a grown adult? Yeah no. This isn’t Sarah Ferguson, woman who has never worked here, or any of the Middleton girls. Nice try though.

    • Nic919 says:

      I’m pretty sure Meghan knows how to handle money since she’s had a real job since university. She’s not like Kate, who only ever chased william and did not ever live as a financially independent adult. Meghan has and if Harry is confused she will help him figure it out. Of all the people who can learn to make money and survive on a few million, Meghan can.

    • Lanie says:

      We don’t really know what’s stalled during the pandemic though. Businesses are still operating and deals are still being made.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Pretty sure they aren’t going to run through 45 million in a year. They’ve also shown they’re still working behind the scenes.

  34. Liz version 700 says:

    At the end of the day, Harry didn’t just move. He moved to a country well known for rebelling against his crazy family. Welcome to Independence Day Harry and Meghan.

  35. Lola says:

    W & K worked very hard to get rid of Meghan. It was the most work the two of them have undertaken either individually or together since they were married. As everyone has said they never counted on Harry leaving with her.

    Personally, I believe that the reasons that the RF are pressing Harry to come back are many. For starters, it is hard to argue that the RF & BM were totally abusive if the victim of the abuse returns. It is also to pressure Harry to stop his lawsuits against the Sun. This suit in particular is exceedingly dangerous to W&K as it risks exposing their role in the vicious abuse of Meghan and even Archie.

    In addition, do not underestimate the impact the the coming No Deal Brexit is going to have on Britain. People are tap-dancing around the magnitude of cliff-edge on the British public. They want Harry back before that, to be able to try to distract the public with a whole new slate of reconciliation articles, of W&H, H&K, H&RF, etc.

    The public relations hit to the RF has been immense . . . this isn’t anything they are able to correct on their own. There isn’t anyone left in the RF with the star power to fix it. The wedding didn’t go nearly far enough in repairing the reputational damage, as the bride is the daughter of the Nonce. Sophie hasn’t done it. Kate hasn’t done it. With Harry there is a chance that they can garner favorable press internationally again.

    So, the RF is really up the creek. Perhaps, with a charismatic Harry, they might regain their footing. Without him, they are toast and they know it.

    Do I think he is going to return? Nope.
    Do I think the continued abuse of his wife is going to harden his resolve? Yes.
    Do I think that they are going to anger him to the point where he will let the whole thing burn to a cinder if they keep harassing his family? I think he’s already at that point.

  36. Nina says:

    « Kate » is mentioned but not Archie nor Meghan. And they think that man will go back to that abusive environment ?

  37. mara says:

    Walking away from the venomous behavior that was directed at them was the healthiest thing that Meghan and Harry could do. I applaud them for moving far, far away from that toxic family.

  38. Tealie says:

    Cool so why doesn’t william abdicate his crown, leave his kids and the handmaiden and move to America with Rose and prove that family does indeed mean more than titles?? Not that hard is it now Dickie?? If “Harry means so much to him” 🤔🤔

    • Tia says:

      I’m fairly sure Rose would run screaming for the exit at the suggestion. She’s not an innocent victim being strung along by a man who keeps promising to leave his wife and then doesn’t. I’m pretty sure she and her husband have an agreement about affairs (for both of them) and she seems to be perfectly content with the way things are. She is playing by the aristocratic ‘rules’, she just didn’t realise Kate and William didn’t have the same agreement. My guess is she is furious about the publicity, not wanting the deluge of bad press that would result from William leaving Kate for her (since we all know it would be blamed on her not him).

      • Tealie says:

        ha ha yeah I know, I was just trying to throw an equally as ridiculous sentiment as they did to Harry

        I also I heard a few days ago that Rose has gotten divorced by her husband which wouldn’t come as a suprise.
        agreement of affairs and infidelity in British aristocratic circles are very much male sided. The woman is always meant to apprear pure, virginal and sexless to stay true to her husband and take only his as a lover.

        I’ve seen men in these circles cheat on their wives all seven days of the week get enraged and demand for a divorce if the wife gives another man to oogly of an eye. The circles rules are designed of extreme white male fragility and misogyny. if you’ve seen Maddie and Nate in Euphoria, that’s essentially how it works

      • notasugarhere says:

        I doubt Rose is bothered much by this. She and William playing by the same rules, with Kate and Carole on the outside. The Toffs rallied around Rose, even against William, and they’ve continued to show they support Rose over Kate (see Tatler).

  39. blunt talker says:

    Those so called royalists are dumb as a bag of rocks-The shit Prince Andrew was involved in and they have the nerve to suggest incest among family members-they need prayer for their souls because their souls are not going to end up in a good place. Notice all these over 60 people telling Harry what to do-they live in the past cave-life environment. They didn’t like how Harry responded to being accused of abusing funds in a charity-welcome to independence in America They want to suck the life out of Harry and by the time he is fifty he will look like death’s door. This firm concept believes in one thing-nothing, nobody comes before the best interest of the monarchy. The coldness and evilness of Dickie’s comments shows more what the royal family is like than anything bad about Harry. They want Harry back to show white supremacy rules and Meghan and Archie is at the bottom of the white world’s shoes.

  40. Mariane says:

    Another none subtle hit on Meghan. These racist idiots dont understand that harry ain’t coming back giving up his happiness for their sake. I see Dickie is making a dick move even in America. I cant wait to see them back on SM. They could drown out these useless idiots in a second by posting on their Instagram/Twitter.
    I look forward to hearing about them suing these people especially that drag queen Colins. I’m so sick of them

  41. Marni112 says:

    Must say the news out of Californa about drones lawsuit makes me think they are not having a very good time and that they will need to move again. So far an extraordinary nomadic life.

  42. Tealie says:

    Oh how well this all aged… 🙃✅

  43. Sass says:

    Whenever I read these specific posts, they are so triggering for me. I’ve mentioned before that my in laws hate me, although it’s never been made clear exactly why – I tried for so long to get along with them and include them, and they did the exact opposite. So I stopped trying and that made things even worse. Then they started in on our children. My husband finally stepped in and everything exploded. We still do not speak to his mother, I’m fine with his siblings but I’m done doing any reaching out and they don’t reach out either (which they never did to begin with), and I was ok with his stepdad but then three days before Christmas his stepdad cut ties with us because apparently his sister still has a problem with me and he thinks we should apologize, and until we do he’s not speaking to any of us. It’s the same sht different decade. Yes that’s right. We’ve been married since 2008. They liked me just fine until they realized he was going to marry me.

    All this to say I feel for Harry and Meghan. No matter what it wreaks havoc on a relationship. My husband and I go to therapy to work out the misplaced resentment that he sometimes deals with because he feels like he had to make a choice. My greatest fear is that one day he will leave us for them because he was in the FOG for so long, and he misses them even though they excluded him just as much. He always says it wouldn’t have mattered who he married – I believe him. But that doesn’t make the fear I have any less real.

    I know they almost certainly go to therapy together and it’s truly the best thing for any marriage whether big problems exist or not. I see them and I see a sharp parallel. They’re on my mind a lot.