Duchess Meghan never made Kate cry at the bridesmaids fitting in 2018

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There is so much in the three Finding Freedom excerpts published by the Times, and again, we’re trying to just highlight the most notable storylines and the most interesting clap-backs. FF definitely emphasizes that the main breakdown was between Prince Harry and Prince William, but there’s definitely some shady stuff about the Duchess of Cambridge and how she behaved towards Meghan. But Kate didn’t leave her fingerprints on some of the biggest hatchet jobs, which has left some of the stories rather vague, like all of the f–king drama of “Meghan made Kate cry.” We’ve heard at least ten different versions of that and we’ve never heard any context which made it make sense. I’ve pointed out that it was never about the context – the point of the stories was just to reinforce the “mean Meghan versus poor white crying Kate.” So here are some more highlights:

The leaks: It could hardly have come as a surprise that leaks were happening. One courtier privately bragged to friends about their ability to place a story, positive or negative, in any publication with a click of their fingers, and another told a respected newspaper editor that he could “handle anything after putting up with one of Meghan’s temper tantrums”. Staff described the atmosphere inside the three households as “competitive”, “miserable” and “full-on”.

The Cambridges refused to put any effort into it: Among all the friends and family Harry and Meghan hosted at their house in Oxfordshire between May 2018 and March 2019, the Cambridges failed to visit. “The invite was there,” a source said.

Sending flowers wasn’t enough: Meghan would agree with the assessment that the duchesses were not the best of friends. Their relationship hadn’t progressed much since she was Harry’s girlfriend. Although Meghan might have understood Kate’s wariness to strike up a meaningful friendship, they were still no closer by the time she was a fellow senior working member of the royal family and the wife of William’s brother. Flowers for her birthday were nice, but Meghan would far rather have had Kate check in on her during the most difficult times with the press.

The story about Meghan yelling at a member of Kate’s staff: One story had a “furious” Kate intervening after Meghan “bollocked” a member of her staff. The Kensington Palace staff member was rumoured to be the deputy communications secretary, Katrina McKeever, who had left the palace after five years to explore new opportunities. Even Kensington Palace didn’t understand the bizarre story. McKeever left on a good note with the Sussexes, who sent her a handwritten letter and huge floral arrangement when she left.

Tears at a bridesmaids fitting: There were reports that, before the wedding, Meghan had left Kate in tears following a bridesmaid fitting for Princess Charlotte. “Kate had only just given birth to Prince Louis and was feeling quite emotional,” a source said. There were reports that claimed Meghan’s “strict demands” caused Kate to cry. A source, who was at the mid-May wedding fitting and has never discussed before what really happened, said stories about tears have been “puzzling” to those who were present. “Some of the children weren’t co-operating, and there was a lot going on. Everyone tried to help where they could, but it’s never easy with kids at fittings. There were no tears from anyone. And in the end, the fitting was fine. Kate and Meghan were both a little stressed but professionals in the room, and there were other people there.”

Why weren’t false stories shut down: Those close to Meghan questioned whether someone from the palace or a former employee could have been behind the story, and wondered aloud why aides refused to set the record straight there and then. “There are people, whether they work with the family or are members of the family, that know that a lot of this stuff isn’t true, and aren’t allowed to say anything, like that ridiculous story about Meg and Catherine and the bridesmaids’ dresses,” a trusted confidant said. “That story was ridiculous and so false.” Several aides across the royal households now confirm that there was no fitting that left the Duchess of Cambridge in tears.

[From The Times]

Yeah, again – the point of those stories was never that something actually happened and we have to get to the truth of who said what and when. The point was to create a narrative of an aggressive, gauche, black American woman who “broke protocol” and made a white woman cry.

Finding Freedom also corrects the record about that asinine story regarding Meghan wanting air fresheners for the musty air in St. George’s Chapel on her wedding day – apparently, she got “discreet Baies scented air diffusers for the chapel provided by Diptyque” and it was approved of by everyone at the palace. Just as Kate asked for scented candles at Westminster Abbey.

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  1. Sofia says:

    So Tightsgate never happened? If it never happened why did Tatler (a magazine who’s got their ear in the aristo crowd) say it did a mere 2 months ago? When the Cambridges were doing damage control, they had their mouthpieces deny almost everything except the tights matter. The palace had 2 years to deny it and yet they didn’t.

    Call me a tinhat but something doesn’t seem right.

    • Viola says:

      The reason for Kate’s tears being deployed keeps changing.

      First it was flowers being poisonous. Then hemlines. Then tights. Now we’re at roses.The stories change the more “detail” is revealed and KP realise how stupid they look to the public. It’s as if they’re throwing stones until something sticks.

      I now believe what did occur was the opportunity to paint a black woman as a bully and aggressive.

      • Sofia says:

        I’m guessing 1) it didn’t happen at all but KP saw it as a ploy to get sympathy for Kate so they didn’t say anything concrete until tights (which backfired) so they tried hemlines (which didn’t stick either) so now they’ve decided to say the truth: which is nothing happened.
        2) Something /did/ happen but KP doesn’t want to say it because it doesn’t make the Cambridges look good so they tried a bunch of excuses to cover it up and when none of them stuck like they wanted, they decided to lie about it

    • Becks1 says:

      My guess is something did happen at one of the fittings – even the description here – “there was a lot going on,” “its never easy with kids at fittings” – reading between the lines it sounds like something did happen, but Kate didn’t cry. I’m also getting the feeling that whatever it was, it makes Kate look bad, which is why the story around it keeps changing.

      • Lemons says:

        I don’t think Kate cried. I think she had a hard time handling all of the kids (this goes against her Mother of Britian cosplay) or her particular child was getting out of hand making things difficult for everyone (again, makes Kate look like she can’t handle her own children in public).

        Kate probably stressed out, snapped at one of the kids or the staff or even Meghan, everyone let it slide because everyone else is mature, but either Kate or her staffer gets concerned and leaks the story to blame her actions on Meghan and her wedding.

      • Sofia says:

        It could mean something happened with the kids. Either some of them were getting fussy (which kids do get), Kate snapped for a few reasons (hormones and if that royalfoibles article is true, William cheating) and a courtier saw a moment to make Meghan look bad.

        At this point, we can come up with any theory for this incident but unless Meghan and/or Kate say something on the record (and people will nevertheless accuse the other one of lying) or there’s video footage, we’ll never really know what happened.

      • Nic919 says:

        If more than one parent and child was at that fitting they could probably confirm what really did happen. The fact that Roya Nikkah still can’t let go of that story means there is something but it probably won’t come off as another “evil Meghan “ story now that they see how the public is digesting a lot of this info.

        I think Lemons and Sofia nailed the issue of Kate not being to control Charlotte and it was causing issues for everyone. It wouldn’t be the first time she couldn’t handle her kids and a version of that was mentioned a while back, I.e. Charlotte was having a fit and delaying the process for everyone.

      • blue36 says:

        The book sources one of the mothers who was actually at the dress fitting, but when the crying storing came out it was Kate’s friends who were sourced, so…. idk. Hard to say, people could make the argument that if it was one of Meghan’s friends then yeah obviously they would say she didn’t cry, but if it was Zalie’s mother, then the non crying part might be more plausible.

      • BabsORIG says:

        Maybe Kate smacked Charlotte hard and shocked everyone in the room.

      • Lorri says:

        I read one account quite a while back that said Meghan snapped at Charlotte at the fitting. Roya Nikkhah insists that something went down for real, but hasn’t said what it was.

      • Nic919 says:

        I read that Lorri reposts things from anti Meghan sites on tumblr and pretends they are real. Emily Andrews told me so.

      • ADS says:

        @Nic919 Emily Andrews has all the tea ;)

    • A says:

      Yeah, I agree with you. I’m really surprised that this story didn’t happen, or that it’s being said that it didn’t happen.

      My take on it is this–I think Kate did cry, but it wasn’t about tights, it was about something else completely. She had a private cry in a loo somewhere, where no one could see her, because there were just too many people around that day, and she didn’t want to start crying in front of all of them. She talked about this later on with someone, maybe her mother or her sister, and they cobbled together the story that Meghan made Kate cry and spread it around to the press breathlessly. No one bothered to correct it, because Kate didn’t want to have to address it at all, since the truth would come out, and the falsehood was serving her just as well.

  2. Toot says:

    Kate could have had KP deny the story of Meghan making her cry, which was used to really tear Meghan apart, like she used KP to deny stories about hair and botox.

    By her not having them deny it told Meghan and Harry all they needed about the Cambridges and their so called support. I think this story was a main ingredient to the riff.

    • Bettyrose says:

      How is Kate not humiliated by that story? It paints her as emotional and irrational. If the tears were a result of post-partum hormones then Meghan is not even a factor..so the story has never been flattering to Kate.

    • Mary says:

      @Toot, agreed. KP went to the bother of denying that Kate got angry at Meghan for bullocking staff but they don’t deny that Meghan did that? They don’t deny that Kate cried because of Meghan (both stories came out about the same time)?

      If Meghan and Harry did not know before then, they had to have then realized that Will and Kate did not have their backs. And, that the Cambridges were probably complicit with the smear campaign.

    • L4frimaire says:

      That story should never have come out in the first place. Does she really want to be known as crying Kate? I’m just thinking that while this fitting is happening, Meghan also having to deal with the crap with her disaster Dad bailing on the wedding and ghosting her, for all the world to see. But we’re supposed to feel sorry for Kate about something.

  3. LaUnicaAngelina says:

    Finally! The crying story was such bullshit. I’m eager to listen to the entire audiobook when it’s released.

    • Anance says:

      It sounded fishy from the moment the detail that Charlotte told Daddy was leaked. That sounds too contrived, purposely sentimental, and obviously meant to protect Kate.

  4. Tessa says:

    Kate should have denied the story. She didn’t. Speaks volumes about Kate.

    • Anners says:

      And even if she wasn’t “allowed” to deny it, she surely could’ve done a shopping photo op with Meghan to show that everything was fine. She didn’t. And that Tells me all I need to know about that situation.

      • theothercleo says:

        Or she could have just let slip at an event that Meghan was lovely or something. As you said there were so many options but she did nothing. Very telling.

      • ProfPlum says:

        Seriously. There were so many ways for Kate to counter the false story about MM making her cry. But, of course, this was the same woman who manages a clipped “yes, we’re very excited for them,” when asked about H&M’s engagement and mumbled some incomprehensible word salad when the pregnancy was announced. Par for the course.

    • S808 says:

      Meghan was newly pregnant at the time too….disgusting.

    • Nic919 says:

      Yes. Especially when we have the hair extensions denial from KP, the baby botox denial, the Tatler article denial. Kate can make denials on petty things but she chose not to here. It’s particularly cruel to let the story ride as her sister in law is pregnant and being bombarded by the media.

    • Nlopez says:

      +1000 Tessa!

  5. Harla says:

    I’m disgusted that after 3 years of witnessing the bullying and abuse Meghan suffered because of this stupid story, only now are palace staff coming forward to confirm that it wasn’t true. I see you KP, the whole world sees you and we won’t forget.

    • Tessa says:

      I am wondering who the bots are who make the revolting comments. On the Daily Fail the usual comments calling her “rachel” and the “narcissist” epithets come out followed by Kate is a saint posts. Who are these people?

      • Nic919 says:

        I’m sure there are troll farms hired to make those comments, similar to the fake IG followers on KP. Christian Jones worked on Brexit and Cambridge Analytica and all the social media fakery in that campaign is something he is quite familiar with.

  6. Edna says:

    The more that comes out, the more in awe of Meghan I am. She was a consummate professional and always had her game face on. Not once did she let her private hell show on her face. That woman is awesome.

  7. KellyRyan says:

    “Poor white crying Kate.” :) W&K function in desperation protecting an image. In the long run adios to W&K. Please take Andy with you, or Andy might be leading you two out the BRF door.

  8. Florence says:

    Oh dear. Lie-therine Meanddleton has been found out.

  9. Em says:

    I knew this story was bullsh** because after tightsgate from tatler people dragged Kate on social media so Kensington palace changed the story to hemline gate. To show how evil they are After tatlergate they could have easily said “no Kate is a strong woman, she didn’t cry or even used post partum hormones as an excuse but they had to change the story to hemline to portray saint Kate as an angel and Meghan as a demon as usual.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “another told a respected newspaper editor that he could “handle anything after putting up with one of Meghan’s another told a respected newspaper editor that he could “handle anything after putting up with one of Meghan’s temper tantrums”. . ”

      They above story also must be false. If it were true, it would have been repeated in much more detail as were the “temper tantrums” story involving Charles & Diana years ago.

    • Nic919 says:

      They were seen at Wimbledon together after this incident would have happened and they got along well then. So clearly whatever happened wasn’t a big deal. Only months later did this story suddenly surface.

      Poor form on Kate’s part to let it linger.

    • L4frimaire says:

      The thing about that Tatler article was that it tried to say Kate’s unflappable but then they put out that she’s crying over kids tights at another woman’s wedding?

  10. Noki says:

    You only have to look back at the Chelsy Davy years to see Kates character. They were often spotted together being friendly,i get she didnt have the future Queen clout yet but she was capable of making an effort and treating Chelsy as an equal (not in royal rank) but as another royal gf.

    • Maria says:

      Not sure Chelsy liked Kate. They never seemed friendly with each other.

      • Noki says:

        Not saying that they were BFF but an effort was made, could also be because Chelsy was white and came from a wealthy family and Harry wasnt constantly humiliating her,i think those dynamics put Kate in her place back then.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Kate could not stand Chelsy as Chelsy was accepted (bridesmaid at a Northumberland wedding) and ran with the Toffs set.

      • Nic919 says:

        They were both girlfriends and so more level in status. Plus Chelsy was at Harry’s side at the Diana memorial concert whereas Kate was a few rows away. With Meghan she had been the spouse for years and felt her power more. Not giving her a ride to shop was just the beginning of the power tripping this insecure woman has done.

      • February-Pisces says:

        I don’t think she ever liked chelsy and I don’t think chelsy ever like her, but I think kate probably saw her more as an ‘equal’. Chelsy was still apart of that ‘set’. Didn’t stop the middletons leaking about chelsy making her out to be a party girl, when Kate didn’t even have a job. I think chelsy is more liked in that set and is still in that circle, even without the status of being harrys GF. Where as no one can stand Kate. With Meghan, Kate straight looked down on her like she was the maid. Both women were still a threat to Kate, and her go to response when near a female is to trash them.

  11. S808 says:

    We’re on version 4 of tightsgate:
    1. Tights/Hormones on Kate’s part
    2. Hemline
    3. Never happened
    4. (Per Rihanon) crying did happen but was not about tights or hemlines

    If KP was confused at some stories, why not refute them????? They have time to refute Kate’s (obvious) love of Botox but not Meghan’s character being attacked??? Oh yeah that’s right cause they were feeding those stories to the press.

  12. MsMercury says:

    Kate could have just said the tears were happy for the bride and groom or denied the story all together. I don’t dislike Kate but she should have shut this false story down.

  13. Bunny says:

    William and Kate saw more value in subservient-Harry-as-a-third-wheel than adult-Harry-as-a-married-man.

    Third-wheel-Harry was helpful, knew his place, and served W&K’s need to not work hard.

    Adult-married-Harry would have his own concerns, would want separate work, and would no Ionger be under W&K’s thumb.

    Meghan was Black and American, and W&K encouraged blatant racism in the press to get rid of her. They didn’t lift a finger to deny the lies in the press. Worst yet, they directly profited from the racism: Poor crying Kate! William has always had his arm around his brother!)

    Instead of getting rid of Meghan, they got rid of Harry and Meghan and now they’re exploiting that. “She’s taken Harry! He doesn’t know what he’s doing and she’s controlling him!”

    Everywhere else in the world, a man in his mid-30′s getting married and moving away with his wife and child would be normal. Only in the pathological dealings of the sick BRF is it seen as a transgression.

    • MsIam says:

      I don’t know who is more pathological, the family who promotes this antiquated notion of undying loyalty from its members or the so-called press that amplifies the idea.It’s abusive and that it is allowed to continue in the 21st century is crazy. They have their heir and spare who are trapped in this madness, let Harry and his family go.

  14. ziaaa says:

    Lol someone recently posted the handwritten messages by the ‘happy trio’ of the bygone era to some charity. The ‘fill in the blank’ question was “what makes you happy?”. Willieleaks wrote “My children”, Harry wrote “making people smile”. Guess what Katie keen wrote to be her happiness, “a walk”. Seriously, A WALK. That’s the only message she can give to a charity where she has been sent to spread positivity and uplift others. *facepalm

    They call Meghan an actress. The entire royal family and the Middletons operate as some ‘classless, ugly couture and bad posture’ version of Dynasty. They do follow the soap opera villain/vamps’ motto of ‘you can’t compete then you plan, plot, denigrate, and ultimately try to eviscerate’.

    • notasugarhere says:

      This is ‘can you test the smell by smelling it?’ Kate. She couldn’t name her fav colour when asked. Seriously. And after William answered blue, Kate finally said ‘white’.

    • Nic919 says:

      The hilarious part is that Meghan was a successful actress making a more than decent living, much more than Cressida or Sophie winkleman. What did Kate spend her time doing pre marriage? Absolutely nothing but make herself available for William’s whims. If we want to use actress for code as prostitute, as the tabloids are so clearly trying to do, then what exactly would Kate’s actions be described as?

    • Elena Rindell says:

      I saw that. Kate is such an empty shell. She has no personality, no charisma, no interests. Nothing. I wonder what she and William talk about. To have such a platform as she does and to be so colorless….History will not be kind to her.

      • Tealie says:

        I don’t think they talk at all, apart from “William can you get the chuntey in the fridge” and I’m sure that’s why William cheats there is literally nothing i can imgine he talks about with that woman; she has/has had no jobs, no passions, no hobbies no friends, no social group, no talent, no quirks, nothing. I really don’t think she talks to anyone outside of her mum and Pippa. she attached herself so early to his thigh, that she has never had an autonomous functioning adult experience since..

    • Dee says:

      You would think being an actor would be a tremendous help in this business. Pretend to care, act like you’re listening, walk about as a living anachronism. Kate’s had a lot of fun with Diana cosplay along the way. Instead, they got Meghan, who didn’t have to act, but had true compassion, and that wasn’t going to do at all.

  15. Lizzie says:

    I never believed this. The biggest bullies are also the biggest crybabies. Just look at the US president.

  16. Becks1 says:

    If crying-gate never happened, KP should have immediately rebutted that story. that was a fairly concrete story that gained steam and was quickly taken as fact and as proof of Meghan being a diva and a bully. If there were no tears, KP should have said that immediately. The fact that they didn’t tells me they were fine with it being taken as fact and with Meghan being viewed as someone who bullied a woman who had just given birth.

    • Tealie says:

      they knew how powerful weaponising Kates white women tears would be against Meghan, which is why they still reference the story three years later. It didn’t happen, but when they realised how useful the Kate is being bullied narrative was, they I kept going.

  17. ABritGuest says:

    at one point Camilla Tominey was trolling and suggesting Kate’s tears were over rift with Rose. I think there was a crying incident but the reasons aren’t favourable to Kate so they don’t want to say real reason after tights& hemlines didn’t garner as much sympathy.

    Still those tears were used to demonise a pregnant Meghan& play to angry black woman trope. i cant imagine frustration KP let it linger but during SIL feudgate KP did take the time to deny report that Kate shouted at Meghan over staff treatment.

    • Olenna says:

      Tominey is such a nasty bigot and Kween sycophant. This is from the Daily Beast in 2018: Tominey says that The Telegraph has “spoken to two separate sources who claim Kate was left in tears following a bridesmaids dress fitting for Princess Charlotte.” Every time a RR lies, they try to back track and change their story or just ignore it like that sociopath-in-chief we’re dealing with–all cut from the same degenerate cloth.

      • Dee says:

        Always the passive voice. Never “Kate cried at the dress fitting,” because maybe that was her hormones or something.

      • Couch potato says:

        “Kate was left in tears following a bridesmaids dress fitting…”. She might have cried AFTER the fitting, because she flipped on Charlotte during the fittings, and her reaction doesn’t fit with her perfect mummy image.

  18. Ginger says:

    I think Carole Middleton leaked this story to make Kate a victim of ‘Mean Meghan’

    I seriously can’t stand Will and Kate.

    • Tessa says:

      William has a mean streak. I think it always was there. He deserves a mean girl like Kate.

      • Nic919 says:

        He was called billy the basher as a child. I guess he never outgrew that.

      • February-Pisces says:

        That’s why I don’t feel sorry for either of them, they deserve to be miserable together. In fact it’s better they stay together, that way they don’t have relationships with anyone who’s actually kind and cares about them. They would only screw them over.

    • Olenna says:

      I totally believe QM Carole was behind a lot of the leaks and fake stories, but she wasn’t alone. Jason, then Jones, were front and center as well.

  19. bub244 says:

    I’m confused as to why they refer to Harry and Meghan as living in Oxfordshire, when Frogmore is clearly located in Windsor. The most cursory of fact checks would have caught that.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      The country house they rented and them abandoned due to “drones” was in Oxfordshire.

    • Toot says:

      In 2018 they were living in Oxfordshire. M&H didn’t move to Windsor until sometime in 2019.

    • Sarah says:

      They rented another place for a while in Oxfordshire before Frogmore. I think they had to move out because the press were all over it?

    • Olenna says:

      From Insider.com:
      -Prince Harry has won a lawsuit against Splash News, a paparazzi agency which took and released intimate photos of the Cotswolds home he shared with Meghan Markle.
      -A statement from Prince Harry’s lawyers on Thursday said the images were so intrusive the couple felt forced to move out.
      -The agency used a helicopter on January 9 to take photos and videos of the couple’s home, capturing footage of their living room, dining room, and even their bedroom.
      -Splash News agreed “to pay a substantial sum in damages and legal costs,” and has also issued an apology to the Duke.

      • bub244 says:

        Ah, clearly I don’t know my history! Thank you to my esteemed fellow commenters for their responses :)

  20. Andrea says:

    I’m starting to see now what the allure of British Royal Family. There was always be undue drama about who does what and what position each member holds. There seems to be plenty of money to go around, yet I cannot imagine it is limitless. I’m firmly on the side of abolishing the RF they really don’t do much, yet appear to cost the tax payers money.

  21. Tessa says:

    Katie Nicholl is now reporting in the D Fail that Kate “tried” to “make up” but was “rebuffed.” Damage control laughable.

  22. aquarius64 says:

    Kate is really getting the worst of this and I bet the Middletons are panicking. Despite the damage control from UK the House of Windsor is really going to burn. Kate better watch out; look whay the Firm did to Andrew. She gave William an heir and two shares so there is no need for them.

    • Tessa says:

      There is still the potential for William to throw Kate under a bus and blame HER for the problems.

      • February-Pisces says:

        He will when the time is right. After they have thrown everyone they can think of under the bus, all that will be left is them two. Then the duel will begin.

      • Lady D says:

        Kate just might have her own diary to settle scores. Everyone talks like William will have the upper hand. I think, that like Diana, she could burn the institution down. After 17-18 years together, William might not find it so easy to get rid of her. She knows where the bodies are buried.

      • Nic919 says:

        Having an affair won’t be enough to burn things down. It wasn’t for Diana. And now with Kate being complicit in the shunning of her biracial sister in law, she won’t have the power to get any public sympathy. She’s just as bad as them.

    • Nic919 says:

      Kate and the Middletons have always been foolish about this. Did Carole not see what happened to Diana? She was beloved and still that family treated her poorly with most of the media to follow. The married ins always get hit first by the press, especially the women. Going after a Meghan out of jealousy only ever exposed them to criticism as well, especially since Kate remains below average in terms of her contributions to the firm.

    • AMM says:

      I truly do not understand their confidence in their place in the family. They put 100% of their eggs in Wills basket. They never made themselves beloved to the people, never made Kate an asset to the firm by working, never even attempted to befriends the York’s (the Queens favorite sons children). They are valuable only to William in that they are discreet and give him a sense of “normalcy”. If William chooses to walk away, they have nothing to fall back on. They won’t have the support of the public, the Queen or even the aristos.

      Let’s say that they were in the anti Meghan smear together and Carole (at the behest of William) used her connections with the tabloids to leak stories. If William wants to divorce Kate, all he has to do is accuse her and her family of attacking his brother and boom – divorce where the Middletons are evil and he’s a heartbroken, excellent brother who saved Harry and Meghan and reunited his family. The groundwork is already laid out with Kate taking a lot of the blame for Meghans treatment within the BRF.

      • bamaborn says:

        Totally agree with you AMM. When all is said and done, “blood IS thicker than water.” No matter how awful Will has been to his brother, if he needs a scapegoat, Kate and the Middleton’s are closes at hand. Been saying for a while, when Betty goes, expect some interesting dynamics from that family.

      • Izzy says:

        I feel as though on some level, there’s been an assumption that another divorce in the family, between Willnot and Kannot, would be unacceptable. Stupid assumption. All the RF needs to do is leak enough negative stories about Katie Keen that a divorce would eventually be welcomed.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Kate’s been getting a very rude wake-up call ever since the Tatler article was published. She’s clearly been operating under the idea that she’s finally been accepted and that Meghan would take her place at the bottom of the social hierarchy in the royal/aristocratic world. I wonder if it’s finally sinking in that these people will always see her and her family as middle class trash to snicker at when they’re not looking. If being married to a future king couldn’t protect her aristocrat MIL, how on earth did she expect to be protected as a ‘mere commoner’?

      • fluffy_bunny says:

        That’s true. Diana was an aristo and suffered immensely. She was also very beloved by the people and Kate is not. She has none of the qualities that served Diana well.

    • A says:

      I don’t think they care somehow, the Middletons. They’ve accomplished what they set out to do, which is for Kate to marry William. She will hang on until she becomes Queen. And I think she’s perfectly okay with being scapegoated even, so long as she gets to be Queen someday at the end of it all.

  23. Flying Fish says:

    The Cambridge’s, Bill and Karen, have some nerve pushing the mental health agenda, etc., when they stood by and watch the media tear Meghan apart for stories that were blatantly false, just to push the angry black woman agenda. Thank you Bill and Karen for showing your racist asses.

  24. Kyla says:

    Kate is cosplaying a Wimbledon towel in that header photo.

  25. Emmitt says:

    I fully believe Meghan made Kate cry.

    I also believe it was 100% Kate’s fault. That’s why the story keeps shifting and changing because when the truth comes out about that story, Kate will not look good at all.

    Kate & her momma are being set up for a fall. I hope Kris Middleton is smart enough to see what’s going on.

    • Alexandria says:

      If it’s 100 percent Kate’s fault, then Kate made herself cry.

    • bamaborn says:

      Kris Middleton might be smart enough to see what is going on, but, I’ll venture to say, neither she nor her daughter have ANY power to change what might be heading their way. Throw heirs too in the mix if you like.

    • Tealie says:

      if Kate did cry (I personally doubt it because I feel like they’re using the white women victim tears against Meghan) I think she cried because she wasn’t getting her way. I saw a woman who knows her on Twitter say (in response to a post about Meghan being bad and Kate being good) that if anyone really knew her (Kate) they’d realise it was the complete oppsite and she wasn’t a nice person at all and that either the dressmaker they shared OR the dressmaker in her own boutique (she seems to be an aristocrat and run an estate) had to let her go because of how rude her and her mum were everytime they came into the shop. But had never heard/had the issue with the Duke or Duchess of Sussex who even refused to be called by their titles.

      Another one said she knew two people who knew Kate who both had nothing nice to say about her. One who knew her before marriage and one who knew her after.

      I think the reason we don’t hear more of these stories, is that those who have the unpleasantries of coming across her and her mothers path have also had the decorum not to talk too or about them, other than amongst their aristocratic buddies – (well, untill the Tatler article lmao) which is likely why they are shunned from those circles dispite their ‘staus’, bad behaviour gets around.

      Oh and let’s not forget that Richard Palmer tweet from 2015 that said “the public are in need of a new soap opera and if William and Kate aren’t very careful they will be exposed as the ‘baddies’

  26. MerryGirl says:

    So Will & Kate have the full weight of the UK press covering for them? What cowards. No amount of shielding by the RRs and press will make me unsee what they showed me by their direct actions….the budget plane stunt and Commonwealth service direct cut was the final straw but now the stories coming out about not offering a ride to shop, Meghan making her cry not being true is only reinforcing what I always thought – she’s a Mean Girl and he husband and mother aided and abeted in leaking to the press.

  27. Coco says:

    But actually it’s worse to not have made Kate cry, because, when not correctly drained, a white woman’s tears will eventually build up and cause the eyeballs to explode. Meghan was trying to blind the future queen!

  28. AGreatDane says:

    Two whole years and various versions of events later, Loki finally replaces the Tesseract and now we know Meghan didn’t make Kate cry.

  29. Lizzie says:

    I think this is a big deal. The stories (making Kate cry, yelling at servants) were fed to the tabloids from the Cambridge’s and they were lies. No wonder they have been so scared of this book. This makes them look really bad. Yes we have been saying it on this site but now there is a best seller and the authors say they have 2 sources for everything and they are not H&M.

  30. A says:

    “One courtier privately bragged to friends about their ability to place a story, positive or negative, in any publication with a click of their fingers” I wonder who this is, and if it would be possible to find out. This confirms what people knew though, that it was the courtiers and staffers who were doing the leaking.

    I think that the conflicting stories on tightsgate have a pretty logical explanation. As the excerpt says, “there were other people there.” I think Kate is fairly emotionally buttoned up, in that she wouldn’t just start weeping in front of everyone like that. And if she were to do that, or if Meghan were to start acting in a way that made Kate cry, then we would have known about this from the moment that it happened. People would have whispered about what a godawful b-tch she was from the very start. The negative stories about Meghan only really picked up speed after she married and had to start dealing with the KP staffers.

    So I don’t think Kate cried in front of everyone at the fitting, or that she cried because of something Meghan said. I think neither of those things are true. I think she did cry, perhaps at the fitting, but not where anyone could see her, and it wasn’t because of Meghan. I think she got a little weepy for a lot of different reasons, excused herself for a moment, found a quiet spot to cry, then came back. Or maybe she cried on the way home in the car. Or maybe she simply felt weepy but didn’t actually weep.

    I’m saying all of this to give her something of the benefit of the doubt, because I can’t imagine that she out and out lied completely about it. I think she did feel a little sad and weepy at the fitting, came home, chatted about it to either William or her mother, didn’t get too in depth about why she felt that way, expecting that they would know she’s hormonal, and either William or Carole just filled in the blanks and added a connection between the crying and Meghan that simply didn’t exist. And Kate didn’t bother to correct it, because it suits her narrative to be the poor put upon white girl driven to tears by the mean, bossy black lady.

    My theory gives Kate a lot of leeway, not because I think she’s nice, but because I truly don’t think she takes much initiative with these sorts of things. She leaves the attack dog behaviour to her mother, for the most part, always has, always will. Carole is Kate (and Pippa’s) biggest protector. She is the one with the tabs on speed dial. She’s the one who crafts these narratives, and Kate just goes along with the ride. I think the only times Kate took any initiative of her own with these things was with Rose Hanbury, and the responses to the Tatler piece, and neither of those went well for her at all. I also think she has a vested interest in keeping her hands clean, in case these leaks get traced back to her, which is why both her and William have go betweens like Carole and their staffers for stuff like this, so that they can take the convenient fall if it ever came to it.

    • notasugarhere says:

      She flat out bullied Princess Beatrice (seven years younger than Kate), in a public place. Cursed her out at the bar and the barman admitted it. Yes, Kate does do the meangirling, bullying and attacking herself. She’s always had plenty of initiative when it comes to attacking other women.

      • A says:

        I’m not saying that Kate doesn’t do her share of mean girling. As I said, she attempted it with Rose in her posh toff circle of friends. But she doesn’t do it using the press. She doesn’t engage with the press on her own initiative for the most part, she always has to rely on either William’s law firm, KP, or her mother for that sort of thing, because I don’t think she’s clever enough to do any type of leaking or anything without it being traced back to her, and I don’t think she wants to get her hands dirty in a way that can be traced. It’s far easier for people like Will and Kate to hide behind lawyers, family members and staffers, who they can sacrifice, and who will do the dirty work for them.

        Kate confines the majority of her mean girling to passive aggressive behaviour. Things like snubbing Meghan at the church, trying to “ice” out Rose Hanbury from their social circle (if she treated Rose like how she treated Meghan, then no sh-t Rose was angry–that sort of thing simply isn’t done with these posh toffs, it’s the height of rudeness in their crowd to behave like that, even if the person in question shot your father in the drawing room), purposefully giving Beatrice and Eugenie misinformation about the theme of the party they were invited to, etc.

        I think that Kate acts like any coward would act. She prefers to snub people openly and without remorse, and act pettily in this manner, because she knows that if it ever came to it, she couldn’t win in a real fight with either Meghan, Rose or anyone else. At least the aristocrats have the slightest bit of courtesy, in that they’ll at least try to be polite to you on some level, y’know? Even the Queen put on a brave face and went to see Wallis in France, in spite of everything, but hell will freeze over before Kate deigns to be polite to someone she detests, and I think that she very much detests people like Meghan and Rose and Eugenie, since they rankle her insecurities the most.

    • Lyn says:

      A, I agree I think Kate did cry at the fitting but somewhere private where no one could see, which is why everyone present is baffled at the story bc they didnt see it. But KP/Carole took that private moment, and told it to their media friends and they ran with it. They purposefully wrote it so that it was inferred evil Meghan made poor new mother Kate cry.

      That KP never corrected it while Meghan was being vilified is unconscionable, it cant be forgotten and its racist as they played on a negative black stereotype.

      This is why they are adamant she cried but reason why keeps changing bc the truth that she weaponised a private moment against an innocent woman is unforgivable.

      But the truth is out now though, and its against Kate. The next time they try to pull a evil Meghan did something to poor Kate its going to be taken with a grain of salt.

    • Tealie says:

      A says: I think you’d be surprised. Her public persona is the complete opposite of what she’s like in real life I know several people who have met her and have heard of people who have met her on Twitter say she is not a quietly passive aggressive person, but very much a public tantrum thrower. It’s just she has overly favoured from good press and cover-ups for her bad behaviour. I think the Commonwealth and the pidgin flinch in the Christmas special are two very good examples of her private persona has slipping. She is very much the woman to storm out of a room if not given what she wants or freely shout at a clerk for not getting things right. And trying to destroy you if you get in her way.

  31. Marivic says:

    If it is true that there are 5 books coming out about the Sussexes soon, Finding Freedom is the most credible of all. That is why Kate, William, Carol M, the Royal Rota are quaking in their boots. Their credibility and reputation are on the line. This book is going to be a bestseller.

    • A says:

      Vanity Fair has an article on the books coming out. The title of it is The Most Explosive Royal Tell-Alls of 2020, and it’s written my Emily Vanderhoof. One of the books on the list has already been released, and the list doesn’t include another one, the title of which escapes me right now (because it was essentially a nonentity lmao), but excerpts from that book was covered on CB as well.