If I was producing the virtual DNC, I wouldn’t have done anything differently… except maybe give Hillary Clinton a glass of wine to go with her speech. How awesome would that have been, to have Drunk Hillary give an off-the-cuff speech to camera about “motherf–kers, VOTE.” I also think the Democrats, on the whole, believe that they can make the case against Trump in simple-yet-broad terms. The Biden camp must have dictated that to the speakers: the case against Trump is that he’s incapable, end of. Which is true, but there was an opportunity for speakers like Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren to make a more specific case about any and all of the sh-t Trump has actually done, like tear gas kids and clergy in front of a church, or put children in cages, or side with white supremacists constantly, or literally commit treason constantly. To be fair, Hillary came the closest to making specific cases against Trump. Here’s Hillary’s DNC speech:
“Look, this can’t be another ‘coulda woulda shoulda’ election.” That was the moment Drunk Hillary could have cursed out everybody, thrown her wine glass and screamed “I TOLD YOU THAT IN 2016.” Yeah, I’m still f–king mad. And it’s okay to still be mad about it. Let that anger drive you to work to get Biden-Harris elected.
Elizabeth Warren also spoke at an Early Childhood center in Massachusetts with “BLM” letters in the background. Very cute. Warren is, to me, like Barack Obama. Wonky, professorial, fundamentally calm and competent. I love her and I’m proud to have voted for her in the VA primary. She seemed very loose here – it’s easier to relax when you’re not on the national ticket.
Photos courtesy of Getty.
I feel very sad for those people who voted for her and died of Corona.
If only she had been president…
It was so bittersweet because I am still mad about 2016, why wouldn’t i be? She won, it was openly stolen from her and no one did anything about it. And it was openly stolen with the help of a foreign power! So yeah, I’ll die mad about 2016 and having a Hillary Clinton Presidency stolen from me. As a Gen X feminist I’ve loved her since I first heard and saw her in 1991. Yes I’m excited about Kamala, and yes I do think Biden can do the job, but that won’t make up for 2016, and I’ll tell you something, we will never, ever, get back what we lost on the Supreme Court, and the federal judiciary. So we will be living with 2016 long after don the con is gone. Even if it’s death that takes him eventually, and not an election.
Darla, agree with everything you said here 100%, except I’m not Gen X, I’m a Xennial, but still. I’ll die mad about 2016 and what we lost with the judiciary.
Word! She was robbed, we all were.
Yes! When they robbed her they robbed all of us.
She also robbed!
I’m another Xlennial and I agree with you. I loved Hillary Clinton since I first heard of her. She was absolutely robbed in 2016 and so many people act like she biffed it and didn’t campaign or connect with the people.
Tom Nichols was tweeting last night that her speech wasn’t great; she isn’t great at this, she didn’t connect and honestly, I’m of a mind to write the guy a letter and let him know that not every thing is for him and she speaks to a lot of us.
I can’t stand that guy. I have known so many like him, the libertarians who are above it all, better than everyone. Dumb democrats often clammer for their approval. Most of his twitter followers are sycophantic dems with no confidence in their own democratic values searching for approval from what they view as right wing big daddies. Libertarians are by and large men who think they are far smarter than they are, a sausage fest of a party because only men think so highly of themselves based on so little.
He’s been leaning more Democratic in recent years, but he’s still whiffy of libertarian sausage fest as you aptly put it. Someone impressed with himself. (I’m not sure why I read him or Rick Wilson; I enjoy knowing they were wrong all those years about Republicans).
Millennial here, and I strongly agree with the fury and grief that she was robbed of an election in plain sight. And it feels like the country just shrugged, because, hey, she’s not sexy and so we can dismiss her out of hand as a shrill old lady amiright?
(In fact, one of the lessons that I took away from the 2016 election is that women can never, ever, forget that to be taken seriously we still have to play a physical as well as mental game.)
That can backfire, watch what they’re doing to Kamala, a beautiful sexy woman in her prime. If you still have that, they’ll cast you as the whore, if you don’t, you’re the disgusting shrill old grandma. Hillary was a beautiful woman herself in her prime. That can’t last, and eventually if you live, you become the old lady, and if you can’t cook, you’re completely useless. All we can do is keep fighting these dinosaur tropes.
I will always remember the feeling of taking my 90 yo grandmother to vote in 2016. The pride and excitement of having my grandmother (and myself) vote to hopefully elect a woman president…only to have that ripped away from us.
I took my great aunt who was then in her late 80s. In the car, she told me she was voting for her mother, who had kids before she was allowed to vote, and her oldest sister who was born into a world where their mother couldn’t vote. Tears were running when she checked in for her ballot and she had the desk ladies tearing up too. By the time she completed the ballot, she was outright sobbing with joy. The first protest she ever attended in her life was the Woman’s March in Boston the following January. She was fighting because she was robbed.
I am a boomer who will die angry about 2016, My 80 year old mom voted for Bernie in the primaries and Hillary in the election before her death. We saw the evil coming and couldn’t stop it. While Hillary’s necklace didn’t spell out “vote,” I wish she could’ve gotten one that said “f–k that POS.”
We could have really been great . At the worst at least adequate.
^^^Yes, 1000x yes.
#2016tears
I have enjoyed a glass of wine with Hillary (and Barbara Mikulski) and a beer with Elizabeth and I think it is something everyone should get to enjoy. They should take it on the road.
I thought both their speeches were very good, this is what we could have had.
And brilliant lead-ins to the scorcher that was Obama’s speech.
Pelosi also did a great job and Gabby Giffords made me cry
I love Babs! she went to my high school (Pelosi too) and one of my mom’s best friends grew up on the same block as her.
She’s an amazing storyteller and a hoot, who went through so much. She had everyone at our table (this was a Women for Kerry luncheon fundraiser), including Hillary, laughing so hard. But they both wanted to hear from every woman at the table and they truly listened.
Senator Mikulski from Maryland? I have friends in Annapolis who worked for her before she retired. Babs has always been a hoot. I miss her in Baltimore politics. She was a force of nature.
Gabby Giffords was so moving! ❤️ Can’t wait to watch all the speeches tonight! Why is this on so late? Lol
About the timing, I heard that they are trying to grab people who might be up late watching the news or whatever and decide to tune in. Those are the people we need to get out and vote, the undecided.
Well now I’m jealous of you. I once saw Warren speak in someone’s living room (Wellstone campaign event I was volunteering at) and that was amazing, but she was very much in policy/campaigning mode.
One of the Globe writers used to do a political happy hour at Suffolk, which would get broadcast on some radio station. It consisted of him asking questions of a politician, while drinking whatever they wanted to drink and then they would mingle with the crowd, which was never more than a few dozen people. We went to several of them but the one with Warren was a standout – she really loves beer.
Also, she has done a number of forums at the JFK Library, which while on stage, she’s very much in policy or campaign mode but when the formal bit is done, she comes off stage and chats with people.
It took me well over a year for me not to cry when I saw Secretary Clinton. I barely held it together when she spoke last night. That woman is and should be POTUS.
Also, did she wear the jacket she wore when she accepted the nomination? I think it is.
I hope James Comey burns. We could have had this. Instead we had Mr “By the Rules (But Only Some of the Rules)” taking a bat to her knees.
He was rightfully dragged for posing in a Vote For Women t-shirt and posting it on his social media.
Those replies were….*chefs kiss*.
Hillary’s reply was THE chef’s kiss. Such a wicked burn of small, shallow man who thinks he’s so special.
@Betsy, Hillary gives the best burns.
Seconded
Mr “It makes me sick to my stomach to consider that I might have influenced the course of events …. by selectively choosing the strictest possible interpretation of guidelines that just so happened to penalize the political opposition and feed into a nasty political conspiracy exactly at a campaign inflection point.”
Yep. Dirtbag. I can’t remember what else he’s done in his career, though I seem to remember it was a lot, but he sank his entire legacy in that one idiotic, brazen, stupid, brazen, dude move.
@Betsy. He was in charge of the case and arrest of Martha Stewart. That was when he popped up on my radar. He went after that woman like she was Bernie Madoff.
I always said that man had a serious problem with unapologetic ambitious women.
If I were Hillary I wouldn’t even say a thing. I’d sit there and show placards of Trump’s stupid pictures and words. His dumb tweets and quotes about injecting disinfectant etc. There are so many dumb quotes from him. Then the last placard would be “I had 3 million more votes.”
I would have loved this.
Oooh! Perfect SNL Season opener 🙂
Sorry I put my comment on the wrong thread about Warren’s BLM letters over her shoulder.
I’m glad Warren did that!
“Remember: Joe and Kamala can win 3 million more votes and still lose. Take. It. From. Me.”
GAH. Those words cut right to my heart. It’s so true! We don’t just need victory we need a landslide. And with post office boxes and mail sorters thrown out (and not getting put back) and outright voter theft I’m terrified.
I don’t have mail by vote in my state but I’m going to get in full hazmat gear and crawl over broken glass if I have to.
Also we need to continue to watch USPS after this election is over. The trump cronies will try to destroy it before they leave and set up things in place to be able to steal votes forever. Be vigilant!
Fellow gen Xer here and I’m still angry about 2016. And properly scared about this November and our ability to guarantee a fair election. It’s going to take every ounce of fight we all have to persist.
yes, every ounce of fight…we can do it! I do not pay attention to polls and will not stop holding my breath until the election is done. I am an old white lady, my husband is an old white man. I hate being lumped in with that being Trump supporters because we are SO NOT!!!!! My kids are 23 & 28 – it, unfortunately, is up to them and their age group to make sure Trump is not elected in November. My daughters friends are all with it, which really gives me hope but as a New Yorker not sure how good that will do for the overall picture. EVERYONE NEEDS TO VOTE! A landslide cannot be fought against!
I’m still mad. I may crochet some p$&$y hats today.
Can you send some to Florida? 🤗🤗
I’m buying a TON of Biden gear, putting it on under my hazmat suit and going to my red county-Trump loving polling spot and freaking out the cultists. I know my county will never go for Biden, but I’m going to do my darnest in FL.
Love Hillary and Elizabeth and they both should have been President. Still angry.
Yes! Elizabeth Warren was my favourite for democratic choice for 2020. Either would have changed the course of the world for good, if they had been President in 2016. *weeps into a quarantine scotch, sob-laugh*
We’re all mad about 2016; and that’s why I chose to run for a local position this year. And every door I knock on, don’t think I’m not also asking them to vote for Biden. I love Obama but I wish he would’ve let Hillary fight for her position and not concede. A smooth transition was in his best interest.
I just finished the novel, ‘Rodham’ – very much worth a read!
I am ride or die for Hillary Clinton!
Omg, she’s rocking the Kamala Harris hair hahaha I LOVE IT!
I don’t know if I like her anymore, but I agree with her. American voters cannot allow him to be reelected.