Ingrid Seward: William & Harry might reconcile if their wives die or divorce them


Ingrid Seward, she of the unhinged royal “takes,” has made some new comments about everybody’s favorite subject, the war between the Sussexes and the Cambridges. First off, it’s not a war. Maybe it was a war in 2019, but the Sussexes left the battlefield, moved to Montecito and they’re happy to refuse to engage with all of the obvious war-baiting. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge clearly don’t want Harry and Meghan around anymore either – that was the whole reason Will and Kate bullied and smeared them out of the country. And yet… the royal commentators are obsessed with this idea that William and Harry need to resolve their differences. Ingrid Seward is yet another commentator who has spun out, in explicit terms, what would need to happen to get Harry and William on the same page: someone would have to die or get a divorce. Gee, how NOT creepy.

The fractured relationship between Prince Harry and Prince William will ‘never’ be repaired, unless they happened to split from their wives, a royal expert has claimed. Ingrid Seward, who is the editor-in-chief of Majesty Magazine, told the Mirror’s Pod Save The Queen podcast that she fears the damage to the brothers’ relationship is beyond repair, following the Duke of Sussex’s decision to step away from royal life with his wife Meghan Markle, 39.

Seward, who’s been following the tribulations of the royal family for decades, said she believes that only an ‘awful tragedy’ would be enough to bring the brothers back to the level of closeness they once shared.

‘I rather doubt that they will ever get back to how they used to be. I really don’t think so. I think that’s probably a broken relationship. I think perhaps if something happened to Catherine or Meghan, the boys would be together again. But as long as their ladies are there and their families are there…If there was an awful tragedy it would bring them together, but otherwise I don’t think that relationship will be mended. But that is a really personal point of view and I might not be right.’

[From The Daily Mail]

For months now, Seward (C-word) and other royal commentators have been saying much the same macabre thing, that it will take something big for William and Harry to ever bury the hatchet. The commentators have often plainly stated the only real scenario they see: something would have to happen to the Sussexes’ marriage, something which would make Harry come crawling back to England without his wife or child. Seward adds the new wrinkle of “something would have to happen to Kate.” Which is curious! I don’t even think if Kate was *disappeared* from the Firm that even then Harry would somehow come back, nor would William want him to. Anyway, this kind of speculation is so gross.

Also: let’s be real, we’re going to go through another huge round of these kinds of stories when the Queen passes. Harry and Meghan will come back for the funeral and it will be a huge thing.


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  1. twoz says:


    • BabsORIG says:

      And the two princes have been feuding since childhood, non? Sewarage is a fool

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        But don’t you see??? Then PWBT can be the magnanimous big brother, ““putting his arm around” his wounded little brother” again, to comfort him as he did when their mother died. This is exactly the kind of drivel you can expect if GOD FORBID something happened.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Let me rephrase that. Those brothers might reconcile when one of them learns to recognise, respect and appreciate healthy boundaries. He needs to remember that he is a petulant, incandescent with rage 2nd in line to the throne not a dictator who gets to tell his younger brother whom to marry. There fixed it!

      • Snuffles says:

        Sometimes I wonder if William will learn to respect Harry as an independent adult and the boundaries he set. But with reporters like Ingrid Seward constantly demanding they be fed, I doubt William will ever be able to. His resentment at not being able to use Harry as a shield will just harden even further with each passing year.

    • Eleonor says:

      This is another way to put the blame on the two women.

      • equality says:

        Exactly what I was thinking; just more blame the women and/or blame the ones who aren’t born-in royalty.

      • Eleonor says:

        The black woman and the one coming from “working class”.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate’s family background isn’t the issue, her tacky, grasping family is. Meghan has cut ties with her horrid birth family, while the Middletons trade on royal connections and try to force themselves on the public as the Real Royal Family (TM).

        Tim Laurence, Autumn Kelly, Sophie, Daniel Chatto are from working class backgrounds and the royals embrace them.

    • PEARL GREY says:

      So now the press are blatantly putting it out there that they are hoping for Meghan and their baby to die so Harry can come back and play the third wheel again. They live to sink to the lowest depths.

      • Tessa says:

        Just gross. The trolling comments on social media have the scenario of Harry seizing Archie and running back to his brother begging forgiveness or abandoning Meghan and Harry and going back alone and the other extreme was is the QUeen seizing custody of Archie. Willliam could then at his leisure find a wife for William so Harry can have a family that is approved of. This is so horrifying to read.

      • LahdidahBaby says:

        That is exactly what they are saying, Pearl Grey. They don’t mean “If Meghan and Kate should divorce their husbands or die.” No one thinks for a minute that Ambitious Kate is going to leave William and give up her shot at the throne. They mean if HARRY divorces MEGHAN, or if MEGHAN should *happen* to die, the Royal Family will be healed and they can go on as if she had never existed. This is the most bald-faced wishing of evil on a living person this whole mess has inspired yet.

        PS) Love the handle–so cleverly close to Earl Grey, my favorite tea.

      • PEARL GREY says:

        @LAHDIDAHBABY, thanks, and it is a good tea!

        And yes, Ingrid and her cohorts think shoehorning Kate’s name in will throw people off the scent, but we have all witnessed their other’ing of Meghan from Day 1, their subsequent attempts to blame her for everything wrong with the world and their slow but steady signalling for something bad to happen to her and Archie, from the daily headlines screaming “geriatric pregnancy risk!”, “zika virus!”, “they’re living among the America riots!”, “they’d be safer in England!” and “they have no royal security protection!”, to now saying “to hell with it” and just openly musing about how her death will bring the precious royal family back together so Harry can marry the conservative Tory blonde he was always meant to be with. It’s equal parts sickening and not at all surprising.

  2. Sarah says:


    Also, nope. With all the water that has passed under this particular bridge I don’t see this happening even if there is a big tragedy of some kind. Maybe things will mellow as the years go by but unless Bill loses his petty jealous streak he’s going to keep doing awful things behind the scenes and Harry will keep noticing these things and staying away.

    • Osty says:

      I really don’t think they were really that close. Their so called bond was created by the media to sell stories. Harry who was close to his brother didn’t know much about Catherine before their engagement, he was in the military for a decade etc. I think they come together just for engagements or when William needed a whipping boy

      • Ginger says:

        I don’t they were close either. It seemed to be built by the media.

        If Harry and Meghan divorce, he isn’t coming back. Meghan would stay in the US and I am sure he would want to be close to his son.

        They lost Harry and it’s the Cambridge’s fault.

      • Snuffles says:

        Agreed. I think they grew apart after William went off to college. They each went off and did their own thing and lived very separate lives only getting together for family gatherings and official events. It was only after Will and Kate got married The Firm shoved Harry into the 3rd wheel role to prop up the lazies.

      • Tessa says:

        I doubt there will be a divorce but it would be ironic if William wants out of his marriage and divorces. Of course he would get excused.

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      Harry has wanted to leave for a LONG time. He talked about it many times, *esp* after he got out of the army. For them to pretend all was peachy keen the whole time… bulls%t. I think having the unconditional love from someone *firmly* in HIS corner, something he hasn’t had since his mom died, is what gave him the impetus to make the move when things/backstabbing got intolerable.

      Out of ALL of them, Harry seems to be the ONLY one to have a real, loving, supportive relationship with a spouse who adores, and RESPECTS him. Can’t say I see that with Sophie and Ed (the only two that are still married and together). Those two seem to have (and *always* had) the warmth of a brother and sister.

  3. Mindy_Dopple says:

    What disgusting awful wishful thinking on these royal commentators part. The most realistic “big event” would be the queen passing but instead they write about young families DYING!?!

    • Becks1 says:

      And honestly the Queen dying would get H&M back to the UK, but that doesn’t mean its going to have any impact on Harry and Will’s relationship. I would argue that it might even make it worse once William becomes Duke of Cornwall.

      • Nic919 says:

        Billy will have a lot of money as Duke of Cornwall and the new wardrobes we shall see from Kate will be unreal. He will undo a lot of what Charles has set up over the years.

        Billy is already pretty arrogant and he will only gets worse as he has more access to money and a higher rank.

      • Becks1 says:

        @nic – I think becoming Duke of Cornwall is just going to amplify everything bad about William. He acts spoiled, entitled, petulant and by all accounts, constantly “incandescent with rage”* as it is, imagine him with access to the money and not dependent on his father anymore.

      • Harper says:

        William will eventually implode with all that badness mixed with money.

      • Becks1 says:

        Oh! I put the * in my comment about “incandescent with rage” because – a year ago, who thought we would use that phrase as much as we have in 2020, lol.

      • MerlinsMom1018 says:

        Anybody here think William will divorce Kate when he becomes Duke of Cornwall or maybe wait till he’s king?

      • notasugarhere says:

        I see him divorcing her now or when he’s Duke of Cornwall, but not yet Prince of Wales. He and Charles would agree to hold off on naming him POW until after any divorce. That way, there would only be one Princess of Wales (Wife #2). Kate would be left with the divorced version of his ducal title, which neither he nor the kids would use anymore. They’d all move to ‘Wales’ as surname.

        If they divorce when he’s Duke of Cornwall, it impacts money too. The Duchy doesn’t belong to Charles, it wouldn’t belong to William. That’s why Diana couldn’t touch the Duchy in a divorce. If William waits until he’s king to divorce Kate? That would be after he inherits the majority of the private Windsor wealth including Balmoral and Sandringham. He’s not going to want to pay out a big percentage of that to Kate in a settlement.

  4. Becks1 says:

    Man, these people really do believe that Harry left because of Meghan and no other reason. I think Meghan was the catalyst, but Harry has been ready to go for a long time. He’s said as much in interviews! and considering how the royal family has acted over the last 10 months – I don’t think Harry regrets his decision one iota.

    Why would anything happening to Kate (I’m going with divorce, bc the idea of a death is so twisted to be honest) impact Harry and Meghan?

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Agree. I hope Kate and William stay together as they deserve each other. Harry has wanted to leave that firm since he was 17. He preferred being in a war zone than being with his family. Tells you what you need to know right?

    • Tessa says:

      If he had married CHelsy I think they would have moved to Africa. She was not treated well by the media but not to the extremes that Meghan is trashed.

      • Oh says:

        Harry will not live in Africa.. He may would have house for holidays in Africa, but this house will not be their “base”. Harry said in the South African documentary that he would not live in Africa and he was hinting at the colonization

  5. Osty says:

    Well Catherine better hold onto her ring ,tiara well cos it seems they are all waiting for her divorce to mend some feud . Because God has a great sense of humour

  6. Maliksmama says:

    Folk like this never think about the words they use. They don’t take into account that some sick person might attack Meghan to get Harry to go back to the UK.

    Hopefully someone will start to push back on this type of nonsense.

    • Becks1 says:

      This is the exact kind of rhetoric that needs a direct response from the palace – “the implication that something “happening” to the Duchess of Cambridge or the Duchess of Sussex would be anything less than a tragedy for the royal family is disgusting and we condemn these kinds of remarks.”

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        And you KNOW it’ll be crickets. Esp. for Meghan. I don’t even think PWBT would think to increase security for his own wife; don’t think he cares about her enough at this point.

      • JanetDR says:

        Exactly Becks1!

    • Likeyoucare says:

      These folks really want meghan and archie to die. They are stupid and cruel.

  7. SJ Knows says:

    The RR have hit a new low with this BS.

    Yup, it’s those 2 awful Females fault that these wealthy, entitled (literally) grown men can’t get along. Damn those Females. If only they would do us the courtesy of dropping dead. Then things would be as they should.

    What a load of royal horse sh*t!

    • equality says:

      Well, after all the females aren’t REAL royalty; they just married in and you know how the “royal experts” treat the married-in women.

    • L4frimaire says:

      The only reason Sewage included Kate’s name is so she wouldn’t be sued or called out directly for issuing threats against Meghan. That’s it. We know she thinks Kate is the smiling, silent, one who does as she’s told. She wants death or divorce for Meghan only.

  8. Esme says:

    They’ll definitely reconcile at least partially when the Queen or Charles die (I have this feeling, based on no evidence whatsoever, that Charles will die before his mother… I don’t know why), and the wives will most probably go along with what the royal brothers decide.
    Seward is particularly creepy, nevertheless… speculating that something should happen to two mothers of young children “for the greater good” of the RF is beyond cold.

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      Phil is older than both, and frail. AND 99 yrs. old. I would think they would come back for that, even with a pandemic (fly private to reduce risk)? Then again, if they’d have quarantine for 2 wks. upon arrival, I doubt they’d make it, esp. if Phil goes quickly. Not sure of British protocol (there’s that pesky word again!) for this: how long does a royal lay in state? I vaguely remember Diana did for a bit…but she was not considered a RF member at the time. Will it be different for Phil? Would they allow a “private” family funeral for him?

      British CBs, help me out here….

    • notasugarhere says:

      I don’t see them reconciling after either of those deaths. When the Queen passes, I don’t see them returning to serve in Charles’s reign. That reign might be 15-20 years, but ultimately they’d end up back under William’s control. Better they stay independent. They can serve their UK and Commonwealth patronages from the US under Charles, bow out completely once Charles is gone.

  9. Katie says:

    jesus, I don’t get any of this. and it’s giving me flashbacks to that time when two guy acquaintances of mine stopped being very close friends because one of them left his girlfriend of 5 years to marry a younger and sassier woman who now was ‘setting the rules’ and somehow ‘drew a wedge’ between the two friends (quote marks because that’s what was said but I doubt she was all that evil). the other friend basically took the side of the wronged 5-year-long girlfriend and not his close friend. why, why people are throwing away friendships – and in this case family ties along with the friendship – for silly drama? I get it if the friendship was on its last legs but if it was solid and to throw it all away just because of one disagreement is something I cannot fathom

    • Sass says:

      Katie, from the way you phrased it it sounds like the guy left his longtime partner for a new upgrade and he’s a trash human who cheated, so I wouldn’t want to be friends with someone who treats people they’re meant to love like that. 🤷🏼‍♀️

      • MissySnow says:

        There are always two sides to any relationship and why stay if you’re not in love or being fulfilled? The long time girlfriend should count her blessings that at least she did not marry this clown and find someone that truly appreciates who she is. It seems like folks in five plus year relationships rarely work out and if they do marry, end up being divorced within a few years.

  10. Snuffles says:

    These people are sick. They are writing a drama in their head because they are bored with what they are stuck with now.

    Someone on Twitter yesterday basically said that they only loved Diana for the drama her life and death brought (which sold papers and gave people careers talking about her tragic life) and only decided to love her once she died.

    The fact they they are openly wishing for a dramatic plot twist to give them something to write and commentate about for years to come is SICK. They’re mad that Meghan left the show and they couldn’t watch her suffer for decades then watch her children suffer too.

    • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

      A cadre of sociopaths. (Of course it’s irresponsible to paint everyone with the same brush, but can we agree that it’s a sociopathic work culture?)

      From the Mayo Clinic website-

      Antisocial personality disorder signs and symptoms may include:

      Disregard for right and wrong

      Persistent lying or deceit to exploit others

      Being callous, cynical and disrespectful of others

      Using charm or wit to manipulate others for personal gain or personal pleasure

      Arrogance, a sense of superiority and being extremely opinionated

      Recurring problems with the law, including criminal behavior

      Repeatedly violating the rights of others through intimidation and dishonesty

      Impulsiveness or failure to plan ahead

      Hostility, significant irritability, agitation, aggression or violence

      Lack of empathy for others and lack of remorse about harming others

      Unnecessary risk-taking or dangerous behavior with no regard for the safety of self or others

      Poor or abusive relationships

      Failure to consider the negative consequences of behavior or learn from them

      Being consistently irresponsible and repeatedly failing to fulfill work or financial obligations

      Except for financial irresponsibility, recurring problems with the law, and unnecessary risk taking, these seem to apply.

  11. S808 says:

    This is so creepy. They know Kate is holding on for dear life so they’re banking on the Sussexes divorcing. I don’t see it happening and even if it did I don’t see Harry hightailing back to England. They’re ignoring other factors that caused him to leave and they’re ignoring what William did to Harry.

  12. Sofia says:

    Well that isn’t threatening at all! (sarcasm)

    • HoofRat says:

      It is beyond detestable, and absolutely inexcusable. Why does anyone gives this tiresome creature the time of day?

  13. Oh says:

    We all know that this disgusting woman mean was only Meghan in her words, but she said “their wives” so as not to look too racist. We all know the RF and the RR are dreaming and wishing Harry would divorce Meghan and leave his little family behind him. This would never be gonna happens so please keep wishing . Anyway, all I will say it that Harry would be the biggest idiot if he would forgive his brother

    • booboocita says:

      Y’know, I honestly think Harry has already forgiven his brother — in the sense that he let go of hate and anger. He’s not wasting a lot of time brooding over their fractured relationship or wondering if/when they’ll ever reconcile. He’s getting on with his life with wife and child, working on their new foundation and initiatives. As he’s stated, he and PWBT will always be brothers. Maybe they’ll reconcile, maybe they won’t, someday. But whatever happens, Harry will be the bigger man.

      It’s PWBT who needs to forgive, and let go of anger and hate. And I don’t see that happening soon, or EVER.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I don’t see Harry forgiving William if WilliLeaks endangered Meghan and Archie through his games, leaking, and all-around abuse. That would be unforgivable to Harry.

      • Tessa says:

        Yes, William opened a can of worms and let the really horrible comments flourish in the media and the same ones on blogs and media who trash Harry praise William and Kate to the skies. I doubt Harry will forgive William under these conditions.

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        Agreed- I hope Harry has moved on emotionally, but forgiveness only comes with repentance.

  14. Nic919 says:

    While I am not shocked about them blaming Meghan for this, it’s interesting that now Kate is grouped into this as well. Of course it is crazy misogynistic and ignores that it’s the brothers who are the issue, especially William, but it always seems to be the women who get blamed for most of the stuff.

    • Rebecca says:

      She only tacked on Kate so she wouldn’t be accused of being a racist for wishing death on a WoC in order to mend the relationship between two white men.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Agreed. She seems to have gotten an ounce of awareness that the British media blatantly begging Harry to abandon his wife and child isn’t a good look. Still didn’t stop her from spewing this bile but she definitely tacked Kate’s name on to pretend she wasn’t only talking about the Sussexes.

        Also…it’s time for these people to stop calling two grown men with their own families “boys”. They’re both nearing forty and it’s ridiculous that the press continues to infantilize them like this. They’re perpetually living in 1997 mode.

      • Tessa says:

        Paper click I don’t think Camilla has become “beloved” not everybody thinks so and she still will be controversial. William though is not beloved by all either and neither is Kate. They may turn out to be much worse if William keeps up his behavior

    • Paperclip says:

      Interesting, isn’t it? Charles divorced and will still become king. Camilla is now pretty much beloved. Sometimes wonder if Kate ever thinks about that. I mean, she’s had a the kids…an heir AND the spares. Given how the RF see “wives” – hell, WOMEN – it’s a helluva thing. Mid-life is coming for Willileaks, and it’s a different world now.

      • Oh says:

        All I see is that the British are now worshiping saint Kate, maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think she would be hated someday. Maybe her husband would be hated if he divorced her, but she would not

      • Becks1 says:

        @Oh – if William wanted to divorce Kate, a smear campaign against her would be part of that. Any Middleton family dirt would come out, Kate would be accused of being lazy, spending too much money, cant handle the workload of being queen, etc. William wouldn’t divorce Kate, the relatively well-liked duchess (to the extent people think of her.) William would divorce Kate, a hot mess of a woman with a problematic family background who was in it solely for the money and title.

        ETA and I think that’s part of @Paperclip’s point – if Charles could divorce DIANA and end up marrying his mistress, who is now relatively well-accepted, there is almost nothing the royal PR machine cant do.

      • Sofia says:

        @Becks: I don’t think William will ever divorce Kate. Even with a smear campaign, all a divorce will do is draw comparisons to Charles and highlight that father and son aren’t all that different. I don’t think William likes the idea of that nor will the public be super happy to hear that their next Kings are cheating assholes. Especially as William is seen as “palette cleanser” after Charles’ reign

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I have always felt Charles was only able to marry Camilla because Diana died. Make no mistake in my theory, Charles would never give Camila up, but I do not believe he would have married Camilla if Diana was still alive. Camilla would have become-remained a divorcee mistress of a royal divorcee.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Sofia – I actually don’t think he will either, just because I think it doesn’t really matter that much to him. I think W&K probably live largely separate lives and that will continue and as long as William gets to do what he wants, work-wise and gardening-wise, he doesn’t really care. Divorcing Kate would require effort. But IF he did decide to exert himself a little bit and file for divorce, Kate’s image would start to get a drastic re-do in the press, and not for the better.

        @Bay – I partly agree. I think Charles may have married Camilla anyway, but I definitely think that Diana’s death made Camilla’s public image rehabilitation that much easier. I know some people still loathe her, but I get the impression a lot of people like her and even more are probably just sort of ambivalent about her. I don’t think that would have been the case if Diana had lived.

      • notasugarhere says:

        William will divorce Kate if he finds a better option who is willing to marry him. A woman who wants the title as much as Kate, but who fits the role better. Or if William, shockingly, learns to recognize his mistakes, mend his ways, and win an independent, functioning adult as his second wife.

        As it stands, William married Kate out of laziness and a way to get back at his family. He chose someone he knew would be bad in this role, and who wouldn’t care to try to improve. Now he openly shows how she embarrasses him, and William hates to be embarrassed. Kate and Carole need to get that message, because the worse she performs in this role, the easier it is for William to get rid of her.

      • Nic919 says:

        If Charles can remarry after Diana, then if William wants to divorce Kate he will. I don’t think he is going to, mostly because what other spouse tolerates the cheating she does, but Kate is no Diana and so the public only care about her position. They don’t really know her and she can be replaced. They are descendants of Henry VIII after all. George IV treated his wife like garbage too. The British media establishment will always support what the heir and monarch want to do.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “but I get the impression a lot of people like her and even more are probably just sort of ambivalent about her”

        After Diana died and 90% of the whole story came out about Chuck-Di and Cammie-APB-Rosemary Pitman-The Princess Royal, my opinion on Camilla completely changed. Now, I must say that I do like Camilla.

      • Tessa says:

        I will never like Camilla and even more so because she sat back and watched the treatment of Meghan. She even giggled with Kate at the sermon at Meghan and Harry’s wedding. I think though the marriage of Charles and Camilla paved the way for William to divorce and remarry if he is so inclined.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I doubt most people in the UK care enough to dislike Camilla. Diana was twenty years ago, and only Diana fans are clinging to the idea that a bad first marriage condemns someone for life. People who interact with Camilla at her engagements like her, and that matters for royal support.

      • MerlinsMom1018 says:

        I think if William ever does divorce Kate, she may “possibly” be just one of the excuses as to why his relationship with Harry fell apart. You know, “I always liked Meghan, but my wife, blah blah blah”. She wouldn’t be the only reason of course, because there’s Ma Middleton and a zillion other reasons, but in my personal opinion only, he could use that as an excuse

      • Becks1 says:

        @merlinsmom – like I said I highly doubt William will divorce Kate, but IF he does (and I don’t think its an impossibility) I think Sussexit and Harry/Meghan are absolutely going to be one of the reasons. William would definitely throw Kate to the wolves over that situation, knowing it would be a two-for punch so to speak – it would put the blame on Kate, and also serve as an appeal for the brothers’ relationship to be repaired (“I love my brother and I want him back in my life, we’ve been through so much together, my wife drove us apart but now I see the error of my ways and I am ready to patch things up with Harry.”) Well William wouldn’t admit to any errors LOL but you get my drift.

      • February-Pisces says:

        Ok whenever i have done tarot readings on this, I definitely see their marriage ending, and its not going to be pleasant. William will make sure he comes out on top, and Kate’s involvement over harry and Meghan leaving will be used against her. I feel like their marriage is all but over already.

        Plus a queen of cups (Pisces, Scorpio, cancer) has shown up consistently in williams readings and his future.

      • JDZ says:

        What does a queen of cups mean?

      • Oh says:

        @FEBRUARY-PISCES Can you read the tarot and see if Meghan is pregnant with baby no2? lol

      • notasugarhere says:


        Pisces – Rose, Isabella C
        Scorpio – Charles
        Cancer – William, PGTips

  15. Digital Unicorn says:

    Seward is a nasty bitter old hag. We all know that it’s not the wives who are beefing but the brothers and thats why this has happened. Having seen sibling relationships breakdown in my own family, I can say that it will take more than a death/divorce to ‘heal’ things, in fact death/divorce can only widen it.

    The brothers relationship will NEVER be the same and TBH I don’t think they have ever really been close for years – they grew up and became men who have different lives, ambitions etc..

    • kelleybelle says:

      She is no more than a female Dickie Arbiter who dances around the fact that William is a complete shit and it’s basically his fault that Harry left. None of them want to admit it. And now this new spin about their wives? Oh please. I hope there is some serious backlash for this utter nonsense.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        The British tabloid media and mainstream press do not want to admit the large role they played in Sussexit, that Harry & Meghan are not coming permanently back to the UK nor that will they probably ever come back even on a part-time basis; Weddings, funerals and short visits, yes, to work and live, NO!

      • kelleybelle says:

        @BayTampaBay, absolutely they’ll never admit that. They know it’s their fault and they took their orders from William and the RF. They also know Harry has hated them since they hounded his mother to her demise. Meghan and Harry aren’t going anywhere.

    • RoyalBlue says:

      But in the Royal Family’s (and the RR and the courtiers’) mind, it is Meghan who is the cause of the bitter split. They are thinking, before she came along, Harry knew his place and was tagging along as the third wheel. We never heard of public spats with the brothers, or at least it was not reported and hushed up. When Meghan came along and showed up the laziness of the family, public perception began to change. the gang thought the remedy was to smear her name, run her out of the country and it would end the conversation. It didn’t work, because every time Kate goes out, people still compare her to Meghan. how she speaks, what she wears, how she relates to people, what is the substance of her work. And similarly, whatever Willieleaks does is criticized and people compare him to Harry. Late to the game, lazy, bald, incandescent, copying another charity, gaslighter etc. So even though they have chased the sussexes away, the more the conversation around them continues. The Sussexes’ ghosts are haunting them. So the only solution now is to get rid of her so the public fascination ends….just like with Diana.

  16. Myra says:

    In the environment we live in today, it sounds like an invitation for harm and let’s be real, it’s not targeted at Kate who benefits from royal security protections. But even if she meant it for both women, what a vile thing to say about these two women. It’s a shame society is always eager to paint women as villains. Kate is not innocent in all this, we saw her behaviour in full display, but William is the one who would be head of state. It is his character that should come under scrutiny here and the role he willingly played with the media to put himself as the superior brother. He needed to damage his own brother’s reputation in order to place himself as the statesman, the beloved prince and the pragmatic leader. And he relied on racism, sexism and xenophobia to get there. He is the only person responsible to repair the rift and I know he lacks the character to do so.

    • Chrissy says:

      Exactly this. PWT caused this mess and so it’s on him to fix it. Kate is so the follower in this scenario and wouldn’t want to rock the boat and maybe lose her royal status.

    • notasugarhere says:

      And Kate is helping to raise another potential head of state. What values is she passing on to them? Attack your siblings, compete with your siblings your whole life (both a Windsor and Middleton tradition), women should be pretty but unheard and marry for money and position?

      She and her mother have actively worked against Meghan from the beginning. Kate has benefitted from that, being embiggened by the tabloids while being as lazy and inept as usual. Kate had the choice to be a better person in all of this. She chose to take advantage for her own benefit.

      Kate has agency, she makes her own choices. She doesn’t get a pass here.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “She doesn’t get a pass here.”

        The Tatler did not give her a pass either.

      • Tessa says:

        What if Charlotte asked her why George got a present and she and Louis didn’t during that appearance with Attenborough. Can she say well he is more important since he was born first. How does one explain this dysfunction to a 5 year old?

      • M.A.F. says:

        why make assumption on how she is raising her kids? For all you know, she is seeing this nonsense between their father and uncle and is enforcing the bond the siblings should have when they get older. Maybe she should hold a news conference on how she parents.

      • Tessa says:

        Kate is not one to stand up to William. she was conditioned by her Mother to be a doormat to him. She spent years trying to get the ring and had no career of her own just sporadic part time jobs. The Tatler Article said she is aiming to be Queen. I can’t see Kate disagreeing with William. She willingly participated in the Flybe Stunt and she stood back and watched George being treated more special on various occasions. Her inaction to me is damning. William is very much around to control things and the narrative, he thinks it was “right” that Harry was treated that way,

      • Nic919 says:

        Her public actions show that she is placing George above the other two more often than not.

      • notasugarhere says:

        And her public statements, along with William’s, show how they are sticking to stereotypical roles for their kids. George described as a bruiser, Charlotte described as ‘a little lady’ when she was weeks old.

        I don’t see Kate controlled by Carole. Carole is the stage mother to an ambitious daughter who picked out The Prince when she was mid-teens. They worked together, along with the rest of the Midds, to land him no matter what it took.

  17. The Duchess says:

    The fact Seward even came out with this utter nonsense is totally evil and disgusting. We all know what she’s trying to allude to and it just won’t wash. This type of BS deserves pushbacks. I’m not even going to go into it, but if H&M DID divorce, then Harry would obviously stay where his son is because Harry is a man of fine decency.

    Anyways, let’s talk about the real elephant in the room that none of these RR want to talk about. Kate holding on for dear life and trying to avoid an inevitable divorce coming her way? Report on that, Seward!

    • Tessa says:

      Seward used Princess Diana to help sell Majesty Magazine, with Diana’s being on the cover. Once Diana fell out of favor the knives were out and after Diana died she wrote Diana bashing books including the Queen and Di. She could really turn on Kate if there is a divorce. Kate better watch her back

  18. Harper says:

    This woman is off her rocker. Who does she think she is to say such heinous things? No matter what happens, Harry will never be under William’s thumb again, even if William’s thumb got chopped off ala the Grimm’s Fairy Tales version of life Seward is imagining.

  19. Bluj1515 says:

    It just really goes to show how damaging the narratives the couriers chose to promote and protect the Firm are. It’s quite obvious that William and Harry were not always close and went on much different paths after turning 18. William did very little at Diana’s funeral to justify this idea he was protecting Harry (which is fine – he was also a kid). It’s a myth promoted by the papers, who probably invented it first, and then adopted by the Palace, and only even then to an extent. But they certainly didn’t disabuse the papers of the notion, either. If you’ve ever read the vicious ramblings of Richard Palmer, you can see the real intent of the British tabloid press. THEY set the narrative, they decide what it will be, the Palace encourages and enjoys it when it benefits them and certainly in the case of Meghan and Harry was desperate to cooperate and break Meghan.

    I cannot wait for the day the Cambridges become expendable to the media – it’ll be around the same time Palmer is forced to take a media buyout and retire. He and that ludicrous ancient photographer are the last of the true royal “reporters” and “gossips” that are always on the best. In fact I believe he took Seward’s philandering drunk husband, Nigel Dempster’s, spot

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Ingrid Seward is the widow of Ross Benson. Ross Benson wrote a gossip column for the Daily Express to compete with Nigel Dempster’s gossip column in the Daily Mail (I think it was the Daily Mail).

  20. lanne says:

    For that nasty old bag to wish death on the wives of the brothers who lost their mother as children and were forced to grieve publically to save their family’s asses is beyond vile. She’s wishing that Meghan would DIE to force Harry back?? It wasn’t enough for her that he lost his mother as a child? He has to lose his wife as well for her to feel a sense of rightness? These royal reporters have some serious boundary issues. Does she realize that the royals are NOT HER FAMILY? She’s just another random subject looking on from afar. Sit down and SHUT UP Ingrid, you disgusting C U Next Tuesday!!

  21. Merricat says:

    News flash, C-word: the divorce has already taken place. Harry has divorced the lot of you, and he is never coming back to you. Get over it.

  22. Gina says:

    RR and this person especially are astoundingly lacking basic conscience. Or brain. How dared she to write this? And how anybody could publish this? It looks like provocation. Frightening.

  23. Izzy says:

    This is revolting. They’re not even hiding it anymore, are they? They want Meghan dead because they think it will bring Harry back. It doesn’t even occur to them that he would blame them for it. Kate’s name was thrown in there either as a warning to her to toe the line, or just a poorly veiled attempt to mask the racism.

  24. C-Shell says:

    This woman/the RR is ghoulish! My god. To put that out into the Universe is not just evil, it’s incredibly dangerous. There are white extremists in this country plotting to kidnap, try and execute sitting Governors, building and testing IEDs for that purpose. It’s not a stretch of the imagination that they might “stand by” for these signals to target this little family. My anxiety just spiked. Anyway, it would not matter if something happened to either wife. Will is the problem. He will never do what it takes to mend the rift with Harry; he wouldn’t even imagine it’s his responsibility to do so. Harry is gone.

  25. Valiantly Varnished says:

    These people are truly sociopaths.

  26. Jenn says:

    This is the most irresponsible thing to say by Ingrid Seward especially after all the death threats against Harry and Meghan. The police should investigate this for incitement.

  27. Amy Bee says:

    She’s saying what most of the British establishment and the Royal Family says in private. I believe Diana’s death was not a somber occasion for the Royal Family but one of relief. Her death meant that they no longer had to deal with her and they can bring her sons they way they wanted to. The same applies for Meghan.

    • Oh says:

      I agree. I think Charles was happy about Diana’s death and he felt comfortable. Imagine if Diana didn’t die? It would have been more difficult for Charles to marry his mistress

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        He wouldn’t have been able to for a long time. Wasn’t it not allowed for him to marry her because he had a LIVING EX wife? And from what I remember reading, Cam didn’t *want* to marry Charles. She was happy just being the mistress, having her own place, her own life. Doesn’t she still have Ray Mill (isn’t it?), and prefers to be there with her kids/grands. She was also called the laziest Royal for a long time by the RRs I seem to recall.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @(TheOG) Jan90067 – You are so correct. If Diana had lived, Charles would not have married Camilla.

        Also, IMPO, Camilla did not want to divorce Andrew Parker-Bowles. Andrew Parker-Bowles wanted to divorce Camilla in order to marry his mistress, Rosemary Pitman and continue his life long on-again off-again fling with The Princess Royal.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The Church of England has allowed divorced people to marry in church since 2002. Charles and Camilla could not marry in CoE before then, because Camilla’s ex-husband is still alive.

        Ray Mill was purchased after her divorce from APB, not before.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @nota – Was Ray Mill part of Camilla’s divorce settlement?

        IMPO, no matter what the Church of England allows with respect to remarriage after divorce, the “British Public” and Daily Fail Commentariat WOULD NOT have tolerated Charles’ marriage to Camilla if Diana was alive and kicking.

      • notasugarhere says:

        iirc Ray Mill was purchased for Camilla by friends of Charles, not really part of her settlement. APB might have contributed some, as a friend, but I don’t think he paid for the whole thing.

        The three of them (Charles, Diana, Camilla) were said to have come to peace before Diana’s death. Eventually the general public wouldn’t have cared, just as the majority of the public doesn’t care now. Many marriages end in divorce, many people remarry. The Fail readers as something else entirely, but they 1) are a minority and 2) not as many people were online commenting in 1997. It was a different world, comment and SM wise then.

      • Tessa says:

        I think it would have taken longer but he would have married Camilla, he did hire Bolland before Diana died. So I think that was his goal to eventually marry her.

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        Or perhaps it would have been easier. I think the writing was on the wall that Diana would have remarried first (likely not to Dodi though), and hopefully to her great happiness. We know that Charles was trying to be her friend and would defend her against the Palace, and he probably would have been a supportive co-parent (by virtue of the Windsor laissez faire policy if for no other reason- she was still the mother and it was her prerogative to raise the children). If she publicly supported a remarriage, who else could reasonably object?

    • notasugarhere says:

      I doubt they wanted her dead, because the St Diana myth was created by her early death. Better for them if she had lived and spiraled like Fergie, as she was doing at the time of the accident. The public had turned against her, charities were angry she dumped them, she was making demands around charity appearances that meant they *lost* money when they had her at an event.

      • Tessa says:

        Diana was no Fergie IMO. Fergie had a relatively secure situation with Andrew. But she behaved recklessly and got caught with one of her lovers by the media which made front page covers and the Queen ousted her from Balmoral. Diana was more popular and she did like working for causes and charities, she did enjoy working. The public did not turn against Diana. There always would be pro Diana and pro Charles camps. There were some who adored Diana and disliked Charles and some that Adored Charles and disliked DIana; Camila was not well liked which is why Charles hired Bolland to work with her. Diana was regrouping then and I think she would have concentrated on a few charities and taken up more causes like Anti Landmine Campaign. Fergie messed up she could have coasted along in her marriage but became very reckless she also went into debt again and again.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Many members of the public did turn on Diana. They didn’t like the stories coming out of her former charities about how she dropped them, how expensive it to follow her demands for other charity showings, the massive housing at KP, keeping the royal titles but not doing the work, along with the huge divorce settlement.

        Diana was beginning to look like a useless socialite, flitting around on expensive holidays and little else. The tides were turning against her when she passed, which is when the St Diana myth was created.

      • Tessa says:

        I think she was far from useless and did not idle about like Kate. She was readjusting after the divorce. Here in the US she was very popular. It would have been good if she had been around now, I think she would have fought for Harry and Meghan. There was nobody to really back them up here, Charles Spencer even was used as a pawn by William, his Spencer aunts cannot really help, and for one reason or another Charles just sits back. The Queen throws them under a bus. Had she lived I think she and Charles would have adjusted and worked together for their children and conferred. While she would not be buddy buddy with Camilla, she and Charles would still be co-parents and they both might have controlled William. Philip apparently is listened to by William and is no role model. Sad situation all around.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She dumped all but a handful of her charities. Some complained about how the costs of hosting her at an event as a private citizen meant they lost money on the appearance. Whether or not she was popular with a handful in the US didn’t matter as she was based in the UK. She wasn’t making good choices the last couple years of her life and many people were over it and her.

  28. rawiya says:

    WHAT? Why would you put that out into the universe? They manifested Meghan leaving…but forgot to specify that Harry was supposed to stay. Now they’re saying that “one of” the wives has to divorce or die? Be specific or Keen Kay may walk in on Free Willy trimming some Rose bushes and decide she’s done!

    • BayTampaBay says:

      This whole article makes no sense. Hypothetically, if Kate were to die, be divorced or just disappear in a cloud of smoke, how would this facilitate the Sussexes coming back to the UK to live and what problems would go away?

      The problem(s), per Robert Lacey, is between the brothers not the wives.

      • MsIam says:

        Meghan is the one who needs to die or be kicked to the curb in Seward’s evil twisted mind. Kate was just thrown in to cover the racism. Its disgusting but not surprising considering the source.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Implication is, Kate is the root of the all the problems. Kate as scapegoat works here.

        1) William divorcing her (she and her family manipulated a vulnerable teen after his mother’s death, she was after his title and didn’t love him, William was duped by Carole)

        2) for trying to clean up William’s image around the Sussex departure (Kate didn’t like Meghan, she and her mother attacked Meghan in the tabloids, Kate and Carole leaked to the tabloids to hurt Meghan).

  29. ABritGuest says:

    This is unhinged. A mixed race person in their precious all white space has really exposed the ugly underbelly of these royal experts and journalists. Knowing that there are dangerous trolls who have physically stalked the Sussexes& like the awful Emily Griffin, want things to go back to just being Harry, William& Kate (going by comments on KP’s birthday post for Harry’s birthday) I think it’s really irresponsible for the media to put this out there.

    The misogyny is awful. Given that the issue
    Is between the brothers why would getting rid of one wife (and let’s face it we know who they mean) magically solve those problems?

    Also these experts need to realise they aren’t boys anymore. There is this unhealthy entitlement to them (Harry especially) probably because of the image of the boys mourning their mother. I cant blame either couple for managing their children’s’ public appearances to try and bring a healthy distance.

    • lanne says:

      Calling 2 middle aged men pushing 40 “boys” is embelmatic of what’s wrong with these people. Parents tell “boys” what to do and “boys” obey their parents. Grown ass men live their own lives and make mistakes and pay the consequences themselves without Mommy and Daddy to fix it for them. Was Charles called a “boy” when he was in his 30s? He was the “man” married to a “girl.” They need to stop infantilizing both William and Harry. By their logic, the royal reporters will always think of George, Archie, Charlotte, and Louis as “babies.” Even calling them the “young royals” is pushing it. None of them are young anymore. When will these people realize that Harry doesn’t belong to them? He’s not their slave, nor their son, nor their nephew, nor any relation to them. They don’t get to tell a grown ass man how to live his life, especially a grown ass man who no longer has any monetary ties to them. Harry is GONE, and it’s largely their own doing. Someone needs to do a deep dive into their coopting of abuser’s language in talking about Harry and Meghan. It would be a great way to publicize how abusers work, and what happens when victims leave. Leaving as abuser is incredibly dangerous, and this Walking Ghoul of a reporter is basically inciting death on Harry and Meghan

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        ‘ Someone needs to do a deep dive into their coopting of abuser’s language in talking about Harry and Meghan.’

        This is a brilliant idea and I hope it happens. Document all of it and expose them.

  30. 2cents says:

    The truth is quite simple. As Harry said in the African documentary last year, these are two brothers on different lifepaths. One follows the path of their father (towards kingship) and the other one follows the path of their mother (towards global humanitarian leadership). These paths have a will of their own and are not compatible as we have seen with Charles and Diana’s rift and divorce. The rift between the brothers is real and a logical consequence of their choice. The wives, Meghan and Kate are the exponent of their husbands’ respective path, just like Camilla belongs to Charles’ path of kingship and therefore he married her. Seward and the other royal reporters built a false narrative of closeness of the brothers for years that has now collapsed under the weight of Destiny, the ultimate narrator! Royal reporters (with support from the palace) rather stick to their false narrative and continue to mislead the public because the truth doesn’t sell newspapers. Hopefully the British public will finally wakeup and see through this royal propaganda and misinformation.

    • Oh says:

      The British public will never wake up. Their hatred of Meghan is insane and unbelievable. They hate her more than their white prince the Pedophile.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I don’t see Kate’s ineptitude and laziness in the role putting her on the path to brilliant royal consort. William chose one of the worst partners among modern consorts. At least Charlene was an Olympic athlete. Stephanie, for all her laziness and not working prior to marriage? She speaks 4-5 languages coherently, vs. Kate unable to speak in her one and only language.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Who is Stephanie?

      • Elizabeth says:

        Probably Princess Stéphanie, Hereditary Grand Duchess of Luxembourg

      • notasugarhere says:

        Yes, Stephanie of Luxembourg. Aristocratic family dating back to the 12th century which is why the set-up marriage (arranged by his aunt) happened.

        She didn’t work before marriage, apart from a few months internship at a financial firm where her brother worked (which was under investigation for cheating their clients). She got an undergrad and Masters (German philology?), but mostly lived at home in the family castle waiting for an aristo marriage to be arranged for her.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @nota – Thanks for the background info.

      • cc says:

        I don’t see Kate’s ineptitude and laziness in the role putting her on the path to brilliant royal consort

        That won’t matter, KM is white, that is her pass

      • notasugarhere says:

        Only if her husband is willing to put up with it, and he shows increasingly that he’s tired of her. Plus with Harry and Meghan gone, the spotlight gets turned back on spendthrift, lazy, inept Kate. There is less and less sympathy for a ‘young’ royal who thinks she doesn’t have to even pretend to work.

  31. MaryContrary says:

    I can see them “reconciling” when they are very old and all of this is way behind them, and their own children are grown. My mom and her brother were estranged for decades-it’s only now that they’re in their 80s that they can very occasionally speak on the phone or send emails. But I wouldn’t describe their relationship as close. This will be the same. The relationship between William and Harry didn’t fall apart over a single thing-it’s from the culmination of years. That’s way too complicated to reconcile over-especially when one of you (ahem, William) is still jealous and petty. Ingrid Seward is terrible for putting “death or divorce” out there.

  32. HeatherC says:

    This seems as close to an out and out threat as you can get. I’m not an immigration expert but….if gods forbid something fatal were to happen to Meghan and Harry was there on a spousal visa and hadn’t become a citizen or permanent resident…would he be FORCED to return to his country of origin or would Archie be enough of a tie to extend it? I really think some radical royalists may try to go that far.

  33. Lucylee says:

    The mental illness in that family and in those that write about them is remarkable.

  34. Janice Hill says:

    Considering that the princes’ parents divorced and their mother died, that’s an exceedingly vulgar speculation on the part of Ingrid Seward. And ridiculous. We know from their own lives that divorce and death didn’t remove the causes of the rifts that were already there. It’s like a bad plot from a book, where a character is killed off because the author can’t imagine how the characters are going to do the hard work of repairing their relationships.

  35. Islandgirl says:

    This is some thing I keep repeating..
    Do they understand how they are being perceived by people who have a semblance of common sense? Especially the black and brown citizens of the Commonwealth?

    • kerwood says:

      Barbados is gone and I’m willing to bet that other countries are considering it. I don’t believe that Barbados left because of what happened with Meghan. But I do think it was the final nail in the coffin, the realization that the Royal Family doesn’t respect Black people so why should Black people respect them?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        IIRC, I think I read somewhere that Jamaica is considering the same option with regards to the Commonwealth.

      • February-Pisces says:

        Notice how Barbados was hardly mentioned in the media. It’s a huge deal an entire country telling the queen to f*ck off, and almost nothing was said about it. The firm are hanging on by the skin of their teeth,

  36. Julia K. says:

    In my opinion I have believed from day one that Piers Morgan is to blame for igniting, then flaming the hatred towards Meghan. Was he encouraged by someone in royal circles? The media quickly picked up on it and merrily joined in, not being stopped by any word of support from on high. He was and is a useful tool. Was he a spurned admirer? The death threats were present way before the wedding. That should have been a wake up call.

    • M.A.F. says:

      Nah, I don’t think he was encouraged from someone in the inside. From what I remember, he knew Meghan before she got with Harry. I believe they were friends, may be not close friends, but had at least met each other a few times. I think he is a typical male who wanted a woman, she didn’t want him so he turned on her.

      • notasugarhere says:

        They weren’t friends. She and her co-stars were promoting Suits to the UK, no doubt instructed to chat up the UK media as part of the PR push. Piers, being the slime he is, decided it meant more and has turned on her as you wrote.

      • CC says:

        He was perfectly fine despite the ghosting until it was clear that he didnt get an invitation to the wedding

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        As far as I know they only met once, for a work-related event. He’s basically a public stalker.

  37. Elizabeth says:

    All but explicitly saying outright she hopes a woman dies so she can get a good headline or story out of it for the news cycle. This is so rotten. LET IT GO, Ingrid!

  38. MerryGirl says:

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again….if Harry & Meghan were to break up, I still don’t see Harry ever returning to that shithole life in Britain to please the RF. I see him moving to Africa where his passion for wildlife conservation and Sentebale is and he’ll travel back and forth between Africa and the USA to be close to his children. End of.

  39. Kristin says:

    My god, Ingrid Seward is one seriously nasty old hag. She needs to take a giant dose of “shut the fuck up”. I can’t believe these so-called royal experts don’t ever take a hard look in the mirror and seriously ask themselves what the hell they’re doing with their lives? What an utter and complete waste of a life.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      I think the royal experts write what the person signing the check wants them to write.

      I certainly believe this about Ingrid Seward.

    • Feeshalori says:

      Her remarks are incendiary at this point. Sewage mouth has crossed the line with this death comment, bad enough speculating divorce, and as another commenter observed, that’s all these nutters and extremist groups need to really get stirred up and act on making her dream come true. And she and the other bottom feeders won’t be happy until this happens.

      • Tessa says:

        There are really creepy posts on social media. Saying Archie is not “real” and one swearing she could see the fake pad that Meghan wore. This is a really dangerous situation and I am horrified that the royals sit back and allow this abuse.

  40. CC says:

    If anything happens to Meghan (that’s not a divorce), you can be certain Harry will burn the whole place to the ground. Only an idiot would think he will forgive a bully after the victim gets hurt/worse.

    That aside, i may be looking at it too much, but it’s interesting she mentioned their families. We know Doria is minding her own business and Thomas’ BS helps the palace….Middleton family antagonising the Sussexes maybe?

    • notasugarhere says:

      Or she’s referencing W&K’s kids and Harry and Meghan’s kid(s). Another veiled reference to Harry returning if Meghan and Archie disappeared *in some nefarious way*?

  41. Well-Wisher says:

    This is a new low and smacks of desperation on Ingrid’s part. Kate was added to mask the stench of the invective meant for Meghan.

    Harry made the right decision for his family. The media, on the other hand, will have to come to terms that power is not infinite and has shown its insecurity.
    This is the reason why I applaud the Sussexes, there is no ‘winning’ in terms of media,lawsuit nor the feud. Instead there were clear boundaries established in their move out of the UK. They are using their positive energies towards their private lives and public voluntary endeavors.

    Ingrid steward comment has reflected what royal hacks etc have to do and say for ‘advancement ‘.
    Very uncivilized.
    Maybe concentrated media ownership is the problem along with abdication of selling proper news to selling nostalgia. I guess it is “buyer beware” in terms of the marketplace.

    In terms of the feud – I wish Harry the best. In terms of Kate and Will not being together, the Tatler crowd (only one that matters) could not care less and he can easily replace her with a Tory blond ala Piss Morgan. Thankfully he does not need Harry, and Harry has all that he needs. So there.

  42. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    The Old Bill need to get involved and caution Seward for incitement to violence. We already know what happened when dear Meghan was pregnant with Archie, and some deranged woman crowd funded an air ticket to ‘rip off her moon bump’ – and how many of those other shameful and shocking rumours about Meghan were given credence by the RRs, who retweeted the most egregious ones. The world has been made a very dangerous place by summarising thoughts and feelings into 140 characters: logic, reason, coolheadedness and disinterest have been sacrificed for kneejerk emoting. And a huge amount of negative emotions are aimed directly at a lovely mixed-race woman whose only ‘crime’ is to love a Prince. The crazies out there could get a lot of inspiration from Seward – she needs to be stopped; the Palace must step on this hard.
    From an emotional point of view, also, such sentiments must be unbearable for Harry, given what happened to Diana (which he is never permitted to forget). It is profoundly cruel to speculate on the potential death of Meghan – and must be so harmful to his mental health. And it does Kate a huge disservice too. Deliberately, I think. To tack her on to a speculation about divorce or death shows how expendable Seward considers her. (Though, if PWT wants to divorce her, he will: and he’s *coming up to the midlife crisis years*. If they coincide with his elevation to the Duchy, watch out. He’ll dump Kate without a thought and initially go off with someone completely unsuitable, before finding a more suitable QC. Kate will be fortunate if she gains custody.) She’s a brood mare who’s done her duty and has little value.
    Again, Seward shows her profound lack od interest in the sisterhood. But she must be stopped. I’ll repeat – this is incitement to violence.

    • cc says:

      “The crazies out there could get a lot of inspiration from Seward – she needs to be stopped; the Palace must step on this hard”

      The palace won’t do a dam thing.

  43. Miss C says:

    I think William is jealous because he married for Duty . Harry Met Megan and they married the love you can see it in their faces body language and all. William and Kate look like they are fake and stupid. All K can do is copy Megan and her clothes and she is trying to use her style it will not work K is lazy and sorry

    • notasugarhere says:

      If William had married for duty, he would have married someone willing and able to do the job. IMO he married Kate out of laziness and to spite his family by marrying someone completely incompetent and unwilling to work hard to improve.

      • Tessa says:

        He did not even tell his father about the announcement. Charles was on a tv special about the environment and William makes the announcement less than a day later! I think Rose or someone like her would have been ideal. I doubt Rose would have treated Meghan the way Kate did. Kate is from “new money” and some tend to be super snobbish.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Rose Hanbury had no interest in marrying into the BRF and sacrificing everything for The Crown. Rose is very smart. Rose got the exact lot she wanted and it is quite a nice lot. Rose is set for life with unlimited everything she cares about including unlimited FREEDOM.

        If I had to get married and had a choice between PWT and David Rocksavage, I would take David Rocksavage plus Houghton Hall and would not even have to think about for a New York minute.

      • February-Pisces says:

        I’m pretty sure about six moths or so before the engagement William was living with another woman. I don’t know who it was. Anyway it didn’t work out so he ran back to kate and got engaged. I can’t remember where I heard that, but is seems very plausible. He married kate because he gave up on finding true love.

      • notasugarhere says:

        There was talk of a relationship with a teacher in Wales, but she wasn’t willing to enter royal life.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        william married kate because she was safe. he wanted someone who would stay by his side and not leave him, and bring great controversy to the monarchy even if he were to take a mistress. so he tested her. for many years, he did this and she passed the test.

      • Nic919 says:

        I always find it hilarious how stans ignored the multiple documented cheating by William during the dating years and believed this was going to stop after marriage. Billy had a smirk during his wedding day. How many men act like that if they actually like the person they are marrying? While not everyone emotes like Harry, let’s take a look at Jack Brooksbank, who was dating Eugenie for about a decade, didn’t break up and cheat on her multiple times, and on the wedding day actually looked like he loved his bride.

      • Tessa says:

        i don’t think William “tested Kate” I think he was just totally out for himself. He wanted to weigh his options and broke up with her in 2007 and they had some cooling off periods. He called the shots. If he found someone he wanted who wanted him, Kate would have been history. He was totally out for himself.

  44. L4frimaire says:

    What a truly awful and macabre thing to say and she’s basically declaring open season on Meghan, regardless of the other wife being mentioned .I hope this comment was just a major faux pas borne of desperation. The press over there are pissed that the recent court hearing for Meghan’s trial was pushed out until next fall and that they weren’t allowed at the hearings. They’re pissed that they most likely won’t be there for Christmas or the New Year and the flurry of stories surrounding that. This is so incredibly misogynistic, as if these women, particularly Meghan are just objects to be used, and gotten rid of, like returning a hamster to a pet store. This is the news story they want: heartbroken or grief stricken prince returns to the family fold, all is well in the kingdom once more. The royal family wants this constant drama and if they wanted to shut down all this nastiness and vitriol, they could, but it doesn’t suit their narrative or goals. This is disgusting and hope she is called out. It makes me think if part of the trial delay may have to do with credible threats against Meghan’s life, instead of something else.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “This is the news story they want: heartbroken or grief stricken prince returns to the family fold, all is well in the kingdom once more.”

      I also think this why people who leave comments on tabloid Sussex articles are freaking out that Meghan may be pregnant with her second child. If the Sussexes have a second child then all the haters will be at a loss as they will not get the news story they so badly want and think they deserve.,

  45. Vanessa says:

    This to me seem like open threat to Meghan Ingrid only added kate name to make herself seem less racist and hateful. I Think a lot of these royal reporters are mad that the Sussex’s are gone and now their losing out on a lot of money they are refusing to admit that they play a huge part in driving the Sussex’s away . There unhinged Rants about Harry needs to come home have been largely forgotten so Ingrid has decided to amplify by wishing harm to Meghan we all know she meant Meghan not kate because to the royal reporters Meghan is the reason the creepy little threesome of Kate and the two princes can’t go on forever . And the royal reporters have this weird not healthy way of talking about William and Harry they love to called them boys when their two grown man in their 30s with kids they always love to baby kate as well .

  46. RoyalBlue says:

    The Rota see themselves as writing history. So 200 years from now, they are hoping that Harry’s story goes like this:

    The younger brother of William V was the dim and racist Harry. He was led by his heart and not by duty having been a playboy with the ladies in his 20s and into his 30s. After dropping out of the Army to pursue what he thought would be a royal life of leisure and pleasure he was soon bewitched by a b-list Hollywood actress called Meghan Markle who had aspirations of fame and fortune. They were deeply despised by the public (as evidenced by the numerous polls we took back then) and after endeavoring to usurp power from his brother by attempting to ingratiate themselves to the public with good deeds like Smartworks and the Grenfell cookbook, were chased out of Britain with the public calling for their heads. they took their quadroon child to a former colony where they lived, ̶h̶a̶p̶p̶i̶l̶y̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶a̶f̶t̶e̶r̶ forever outcast from Harry’s family. They died e̶x̶t̶r̶e̶m̶e̶l̶y̶ ̶w̶e̶a̶l̶t̶h̶y̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶h̶a̶p̶p̶y̶̶ penniless, in a council house and are buried in an unmarked grave in los angeles.

  47. Case says:

    The problem is, and always has been, between the brothers.

  48. Lizzie says:

    Hello, Harry have the RF his back, how stupid are these people?

  49. Delphine says:

    I just want to say that Meghan’s side-eye is on point.

  50. February-Pisces says:

    So she wants one of the wives to die so the brothers could reunite? Wonder which wife that was aimed at.

    I don’t understand that logic considering Charles was indirectly blamed for Diana’s death and his sons have never forgiven him for the way he treated her. If anything ever happened to Meghan, do these people expect harry to ever speak to Willie again, after everything he did to Meghan? These people have lost the f*cking plot.

  51. Rhodabear says:

    It sounds like they want to arrange a hit on Meghan. Am I imagining this?

    • Feeshalori says:

      It does make you think in that direction since the hate is so real. This reminds me of Henry II’s fateful words about Thomas Becket, “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” Bam, and the deed was done by his soldiers who murdered Becket. Seward’s words are practically an invitation for harm and violence to all the nut cases and extremists out there who might very well take a pot shot at Meghan. Makes me really start to rethink Diana’s fatal car crash in the Parisian tunnel that fateful day.

  52. Awkward symphony says:

    I never wish ill on anyone but this horrible women gets on my nerves and I pray she gets her karma soon. What a horrible thing to say and insinuate about Meghan or Archie’s death. This bish is worst than that colin guy😡harry would never go back to being their toy. He’s now free and away from their clutches and surrounded by people who truly care about them.

  53. ABritGuest says:

    I wonder if any of these royalists have considered the possibility that the man they used to call the reluctant prince might not return to U.K./and or royal duties even if he did split from Meghan? Right now he gets to be his own boss including setting his schedule, doesn’t have to ask his dad etc for money, can avoid the grey men his mum hated & who I’m sure he’s not fond of now and gets to focus solely on the causes he enjoys.

    In comparison what’s the appeal of giving up being your own boss to be managed by your father, brother or nephew, dealing with royal bureaucracy and having to constantly face press which has tried to damage him and just wants him to be Andrew/Margaret part 2 (less the criminal allegations)?

  54. SJ Knows says:

    ABritGuest, You make a very good argument, well said.

  55. Bread and Circuses says:

    At this point, it has nothing to do with reality and everything to do with their racist fantasies.

    They want Megan to die and everything to revert to the way it was.

    Meanwhile, Kate and Megan got along pretty well, so no — death, dismemberment, or divorce would not fix this rift.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Most signs show no, they didn’t get along pretty well. I expect Meghan saw Kate for what she really is early on, saw there would be only a distant work relationship there, and moved on. Kate and Carole were anti-Meghan from the beginning, not only in Kate’s actions but in Carole’s (interviews including comments about how being royal is more than giving speeches, etc.).

      • PEARL GREY says:

        @NOTA, I can only begin to imagine the uproar if Doria had given an interview saying it takes more than smiling and dressing up to be a royal. How pompous of Carol to position herself as knowledgeable on what it takes. Just because she pushed Kate to degrade herself as William’s “sex waiting” for a decade, doesn’t mean she’s an expert on full time working royals, something her idle daughter didn’t become until Harry’s engagement to Meghan was on the horizon.

  56. Clarice says:

    These stories grow more ridiculous by the day.

  57. Marivic says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if William and Kate divorce sooner rather than later. They are pretty much in a marriage of convenience and are engaged in a partnership by false pretenses. For all we know they have been in this situation long before this time.

    • Julia K. says:

      Kate will never agree to a divorce. She has invested half her life in this relationship. She is cunning and tenacious. With tunnel vision, she can see her place in history and will never let that go. She and Carole will keep their eyes on the prize, even tolerating a mistress if need be.

      • Tessa says:

        It would not be a matter of what Kate wants, she would not be able to fight the divorce, William would control the media and it would get ugly for Kate. She would take her settlement and leave. ANd be seen with the children and William at various events but he would remarry his choice.

    • Rita says:

      Divorce is not gonna happen especially whilst the Queen and prince phillip are still alive the Cambridge’s are not going to cause anguish to the monarchy especially after the Sussex’s exit.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Anguish to the monarchy? Forty percent of marriages in the UK end in divorce. The Church of England no longer discriminates against divorced persons. Three of the Queen’s four kids are divorced. Her sister was divorced. Her nephew is divorcing, one of the Gloucesters divorced.

        Honestly, marriages end. That’s reality. Far better for these two miserable people to divorce and try to find better lives as divorced co-parents.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        but nota, this is their Camelot. The hopes and dreams of the courtiers are pinned on having this image of the perfect Cambridge family like the other young royal heirs in Denmark, the Netherlands, Sweden, Norway etc.

    • Nic919 says:

      They have been rumoured to be living separate lives for a while, especially post Louis. The helicopter covers a lot for whoever happens to be at KP while the other is at Anmer. Even right after George was born Kate basically confirmed that William wasn’t around much and she was at Buckleberry with her mother.

      They show up and do multiple things in a day and spread it out over a few weeks so that people don’t notice how little they do. Right now they confirmed they weren’t doing anything this week because their kids were in half term, except there is no sign the kids were in school at all.

      That said billy is the one who decides if a divorce happens. Kate will never let go and so it’s up to him. If he does find someone he actually cares about then he will divorce Kate, but right now there doesn’t seem to be anyone and he’s probably waiting for his grandmother to pass.

    • MissySnow says:

      If the Brits ever find out William is just like dear old Dad and has numerous affairs, the BM is over, IMO. Kate and her mother have spent two decades getting to this point and they will not give up the throne. Nope, W&K are lifers!

  58. nicegirl says:

    Put a sock in it, Ingrid.